Gee, guys. Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.
Gee, guys. Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.
The media LOVES oscar!
:dubious: and :emawkid: at the same time. I'll take it.
"Buy in or Quit" doesn't seem appropriate. More like "Buy in or I'll be disappointed, want some peanut brittle?" But, it just may work....
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"Buy in or Quit" doesn't seem appropriate. More like "Buy in or I'll be disappointed, want some peanut brittle?" But, it just may work....
Gee, guys. Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.
The media LOVES oscar!
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possible luke but confirmed stud and fake tanner Gary Parrish is all EMAW right now
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt)
The Wildcats enter the Power 16 thanks to last weekend's win over Florida. With their only losses coming to Michigan and Gonzaga, oscar Weber's team now has a signature win to add to it's profile as they enter Big 12 season as the prime challengers to rival Kansas' reign.
http://www.thebracketblog.com/Quoteprime challengers.
:eye:
http://www.thebracketblog.com/Quoteprime challengers.
:eye:
sniff, sniff... I smell a slightly mod'd _FAN t-shirt.
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:lol: This is a true gem.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21509386/updated-top-25-and-one
:horrorsurprise:
I'm starting to buy into the "college basketball is down" talking point.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21509386/updated-top-25-and-one
:horrorsurprise:
Dick Weiss, what a loser.
Not that the ESPN power poll matters much (and we're #24) but what surprised me is Seth Greenburg is now carrying the torch for EMAW Nation by having us at 15 vs. Katz's 18. :sdeek:
Mods, someone slap #18 on top of the PAK head, please.
Who the eff is this Gasaway character?
Who the eff is this Gasaway character?
i think he's an illinois fan.
Not that the ESPN power poll matters much (and we're #24) but what surprised me is Seth Greenburg is now carrying the torch for EMAW Nation by having us at 15 vs. Katz's 18. :sdeek:
Clearly he hates Illinois sys, clearly. Definitely an anti-Illini agenda in the works for Mr. Gasaway. I'm just waiting to see what his end-game is.
Those of you that have been around for a while will remember John Gasaway as the Big Ten Wonk while those of you that haven’t are certainly familiar with his work at Basketball Prospectus and ESPN Insider. We figured there wasn’t a better time to pick Gasaway’s brain than the Friday before Michigan’s first match-up with his alma mater, Illinois.
Clearly he hates Illinois sys, clearly. Definitely an anti-Illini agenda in the works for Mr. Gasaway. I'm just waiting to see what his end-game is.
self hate, the worst kind of hate.QuoteThose of you that have been around for a while will remember John Gasaway as the Big Ten Wonk while those of you that haven’t are certainly familiar with his work at Basketball Prospectus and ESPN Insider. We figured there wasn’t a better time to pick Gasaway’s brain than the Friday before Michigan’s first match-up with his alma mater, Illinois.
possible luke but confirmed stud and fake tanner Gary Parrish is all EMAW right now
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt)
He just needs time probably. I was pretty angry over that Purdue loss too. Brought me right back. He's probably just venting, but is still a pretty substantial dumbass given the rest of his rankings. For every Mr Bread there are at least 100 Gasaways. It's a sad truth about Illinois.
Dick Weiss, what a loser.
Especially when he has Florida at 11...
and Oklahoma State at 20.
I never thought we'd have butthurt rankings discussions about basketball.we aren't
I never thought we'd have butthurt rankings discussions about basketball.we aren't
Bball rankings come out on Mondays right? :dunno:usually around noon cst.
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :);)
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)
Why wait?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21551341/updated-top-25-and-one
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)
Why wait?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21551341/updated-top-25-and-one
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Joe Lunardi is a dumbass
#16
#16
chip on shoulder
#16
chip on shoulder
yep. For some reason I thought we'd for sure be top 15. Oh well. Don't care, go cats.
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/)
Keegan :shakesfist:
So when oscar shocks the hawks at home we go straight to #1?12
EMAW and EMAJ are the only Big 12 teams in top 40. :sdeek:
EMAW and EMAJ are the only Big 12 teams in top 40. :sdeek:
So did oscar inherit a better team than he left? Or did Illinois just eff it up worse the Currie?
oscar just wasn't cut out for the Big 10.
he's going to blossom like a wild orchid in heat here in the b12 though, a place more tuned to his style of play.
So did oscar inherit a better team than he left? Or did Illinois just eff it up worse the Currie?
Illinois has some better wins on their resume than we do (Ohio St and @ Zaga). Also have a bad loss (Purdue) and a couple games where they were flat blown out by mediocre teams. Haven't seen them play, but I would guess toughness/dealing with adversity is an issue looking at that. When they get down, they fold.
REVELATION: THERE IS NOTHING oscar OR ANY COACH COULD HAVE DONE AT ILLINOIS. oscar WAS ALWAYS A GREAT COACH STUCK IN A NO WIN SITUATION.
REVELATION: THERE IS NOTHING oscar OR ANY COACH COULD HAVE DONE AT ILLINOIS. oscar WAS ALWAYS A GREAT COACH STUCK IN A NO WIN SITUATION.
what if oscar is a total badass?steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?
what if oscar is a total badass?steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
Leave
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
Leave
I think I'll stay. I also think I'll continue to watch the games and grasp some kind of general idea of what's going on, which you apparently haven't done.
what if oscar is a total badass?steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?
I think I'll stay. I also think I'll continue to watch the games and grasp some kind of general idea of what's going on, which you apparently haven't done.
The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
Is he Coach K? No, not at all. But were there many options out there at the time? I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing. So what was less worth it? Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
oscar is responsible for 2 really bad seasons and 6 pretty mediocre years of basketball at Illinois. That's not some small sample size and its silly to disregard that. I've been more willing than most to give him a shot, but the bad in his coaching resume can't be easily dismissed.
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius. Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them? The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach. If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
oscar is responsible for 2 really bad seasons and 6 pretty mediocre years of basketball at Illinois. That's not some small sample size and its silly to disregard that. I've been more willing than most to give him a shot, but the bad in his coaching resume can't be easily dismissed.
Last year they started out 15-3 for their first 18 games. They went 2-12 for their last 14. I understand that is just one year of several not very good years, but does that kind of trend look like a coaching flaw to you? Looks more like a player issue. But thats just from my experience.
Is he Coach K? No, not at all. But were there many options out there at the time? I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing. So what was less worth it? Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
Dude, go through a handful of threads on the basketball board. This conversation happens in every other thread. I don't want it to happen in this thread. This is supposed to be a happy thread. And it's like, probably the last uncorrupted one.
Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.
Is he Coach K? No, not at all. But were there many options out there at the time? I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing. So what was less worth it? Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.
Is he Coach K? No, not at all. But were there many options out there at the time? I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing. So what was less worth it? Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
I echo jakesie and 8mp here. This is a KSU cats' men's hoops rankings thread not an "I'm a fuckface pud who just discovered gE please explain everything to me" thread. Read some old threads stupid noob. :thumbs:
Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.
Is he Coach K? No, not at all. But were there many options out there at the time? I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing. So what was less worth it? Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
I echo jakesie and 8mp here. This is a KSU cats' men's hoops rankings thread not an "I'm a fuckface pud who just discovered gE please explain everything to me" thread. Read some old threads stupid noob. :thumbs:
Because I'm the one who brought up oscar, right? You can't even read this thread, why should I go read the others?
Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy
So, hide yo players, hide yo coaches, and hide yo familes cus he kickin errbody out 'hereRunning Frank out of town for being a strict guy
So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, SO! He's climbin in yo windows, snatchin yo people up
SO BACK ON TOPIC K?
How highly ranked do you think we could be tomorrow? 6 of the 8 teams ahead of us lost, and MSU is the only team that could jump us. I'd be pumped if we got to 12 in the AP.
:bball:
Nc state beat duke I doubt we jump them.
they had a horrendous loss last week
they had a horrendous loss last week
:curse:
Sorry bud, your turtles have been bad lately.
SO BACK ON TOPIC K?
How highly ranked do you think we could be tomorrow? 6 of the 8 teams ahead of us lost, and MSU is the only team that could jump us. I'd be pumped if we got to 12 in the AP.
:bball:
"poll frauds" - Joe Lunardi
11:horrorsurprise: :excited:
14 in the Power Rankings.
11:horrorsurprise: :excited:
13 in coaches
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
13 in coaches
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Holy balls the coaches are so :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.
#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB
13 in coaches
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Holy balls the coaches are so :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.
#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB
We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.
13 in coaches
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Holy balls the coaches are so :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.
#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB
We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.
He's talking about Creighton, smart guy.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Holy balls the coaches are so :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.
#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB
We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.
He's talking about Creighton, smart guy.
:blah: :blah: GRAD SCHOOL :blah: :blah:
:blah: :blah: GRAD SCHOOL :blah: :blah:
:lol:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Fran. :cry:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Fran. :cry:
21st seems extremely fair after that week. Good to know 2 wins this week has us right back in the thick of things (both in the minds of the pollsters and in the confy standings).
I really miss Frankuary
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/polls/do we need a rankings banner like we had for football?
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Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.
Could end up being the outlier that makes ppl not fully able from dismissing us.
losing to the #1 team by a few points at home shouldn't cause your team to drop that much.
losing to the #1 team by a few points at home shouldn't cause your team to drop that much.
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
YES! :curse:Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
no.
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
Of course they are, that's why they are fun (when your team is good enough to be in them).
I mean its hard to argue Miami shouldn't be ranked where they are considering their last 7 games and the fact they have a 2 game lead in the ACC.
YES! :curse:Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
no.
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.
Could end up being the outlier that makes ppl not fully able from dismissing us.
good to see mine and _FAN's PI'ing of Dick Weiss woke him up
Dick Weiss unranked
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo :D
good to see mine and _FAN's PI'ing of Dick Weiss woke him upDick Weiss unranked
I bet Weiss feels some sort of validation.
:angry:
miami is really good.
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14)
Bilas :dubious:
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:
I would bet he hasn't even watched us this year
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:
I would bet he hasn't even watched us this year
He knows our roster and how we play, regardless.
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/)
Dick Weiss starting to come around even :thumbsup:
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
Like the one we just had?
EDIT: What fanning said.You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
I would like to hear this argument
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
I don't see that tweet.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
I don't see that tweet.
@TylerDreiling Chill, bro. Just a mistake. Polls are for suckers. The Bilas Index is the definitive word, and the last word.
(https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/298508459501039616)
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
T Dreiling about had to make an infographic.
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo :D
Like Iowa State beating us, having the same Big 12 record, and barely getting votes... :bwpopcorn:
We have a pretty decent shot at top 10 after going 2 - 0 this week.Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo :D
Like Iowa State beating us, having the same Big 12 record, and barely getting votes... :bwpopcorn:
CycloneFanatic is pretty sure they will be ranked after beating us in Manhattan this Sat
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
Like the one we just had?
Yes. I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
I don't see that tweet.
@TylerDreiling Chill, bro. Just a mistake. Polls are for suckers. The Bilas Index is the definitive word, and the last word.
(https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/298508459501039616)
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
Like the one we just had?
Yes. I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.
Orly? Do you also believe you could probably find a magical unicorn that grants wishes?
When you reference "horrendous home losses" do you mean us and our home loss to RPI #6 KU and... :dunno:
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
Like the one we just had?
Yes. I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.
Orly? Do you also believe you could probably find a magical unicorn that grants wishes?
When you reference "horrendous home losses" do you mean us and our home loss to RPI #6 KU and... :dunno:
No, I wasn't referring to a bunch of bad losses for us. The obvious teams that a hypothetical voter might place ahead of us based on a valuing road wins strongly would be Wisconsin and OSU.
We have a weird non-con resume. We're out of the top 25 in 11 of 25 computer rankings compiled here (http://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm). Some of those are wackier than others, but whatever, it doesn't seem completely out of this world for someone to vote us at 26-30.
there simply aren't anywhere close to 25 teams in America with a better profile.
there simply aren't anywhere close to 25 teams in America with a better profile.
:dunno:
Sagarin has us 24. Kenpom puts us at 27. I personally think that we do deserve to be ranked, but the difference between 18, or whatever the goEMAW consensus ranking is, and 26 is pretty marginal.
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years
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It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years
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Man, we are so pud.
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!
Did we really go 14 years without being ranked? :frown:
With coaches:
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With coaches:
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Great chart. "The Dark Ages."
Does anyone have a favorite "dark ages" season? I'm pretty fond of 97-98 when we started 9-0 and then gave up 125 at UA (followed by scoring 111 against Mizzou). 95-96 was fun too - we squeaked into the tourney and then lost by 21 because half the roster had the flu.
We finished the 87-88 season #8 IIRC. Lost to KU in the regional final.
We finished the 87-88 season #8 IIRC. Lost to KU in the regional final.
#8 in the Coaches Poll after the tournament. AP didn't (doesn't?) have a post-NCAA tournament poll.
Why the eff don't we have a 1958 finished the year number one banner painted on the walls oys the fOOD?
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!
That will be difficult to fit on a banner.
....Well, maybe not that difficult......
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Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!
That will be difficult to fit on a banner.
....Well, maybe not that difficult......
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lol. how have i not seen this.
Didn't Bilas leave us off the last ballot? Now we're 11(?)
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
I feel sorry for Frank. I mean, he gave up a potential conference title for that. Will Frank ever have a shot at a conference title again?
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
It was always going to take some time there, but that Florida loss was rough ridin' awful.
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
I feel sorry for Frank. I mean, he gave up a potential conference title for that. Will Frank ever have a shot at a conference title again?
I mean, I like seeing this..I like that one of Florida's losses is to us.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
I mean, I like seeing this..Just feels right to be back on that screen with our fellow bluebloods.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!
Did You Know: This is the 200th week overall KSU has been ranked in the AP Poll. That's good for 40th in the nation, between Georgia Tech and Stanford.
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meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
It was always going to take some time there, but that Florida loss was rough ridin' awful.
The double digit loss to Mark Fox at home would have been worse for me.
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!
Did You Know: This is the 200th week overall KSU has been ranked in the AP Poll. That's good for 40th in the nation, between Georgia Tech and Stanford.
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Link?
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
All of them, in factI mean, I like seeing this..Just feels right to be back on that screen with our fellow bluebloods.
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Ku loses to two unranked teams in a wk, three loses in a row, and they drop like 8 spots? Wtf?
Any other team would be out.
yeah they lost 3, to move to 19-4.... any power conference 19-4 should be ranked.
yeah they lost 3, to move to 19-4.... any power conference 19-4 should be ranked.
#13, though?
also, rankings is all about what have you done lately, not as much about big picture.
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
our schedule has been ridiculously pud.
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
our schedule has been ridiculously pud.
I'm assuming sarcasm.
Has anybody else in America played 3 top 10 teams? I'm assuming a few big 10 schools have, but the list has got to be pretty small.
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
our schedule has been ridiculously pud.
I'm assuming sarcasm.
Has anybody else in America played 3 top 10 teams? I'm assuming a few big 10 schools have, but the list has got to be pretty small.
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader
That's pretty cool. Somewhat related: the average RPI rank of our four losses is 16, good for 4th in the country
Rank Team Avg Loss
1 Duke 10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23 Ohio State 11 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #9 Michigan State, #10 Kansas, #11 Indiana, #27 Illinois)
9 Michigan State 13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #24 Connecticut)
22 Kansas State 16 (#5 Michigan, #10 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
32 Memphis 20 (#8 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12 Gonzaga 21 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois)
24 Connecticut 22 (#3 New Mexico, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5 Michigan 22 (#11 Indiana, #23 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11 Indiana 24 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30 Pittsburgh 27 (#5 Michigan, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader
That's pretty cool. Somewhat related: the average RPI rank of our four losses is 16, good for 4th in the country
Rank Team Avg Loss
1 Duke 10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23 Ohio State 11 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #9 Michigan State, #10 Kansas, #11 Indiana, #27 Illinois)
9 Michigan State 13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #24 Connecticut)
22 Kansas State 16 (#5 Michigan, #10 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
32 Memphis 20 (#8 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12 Gonzaga 21 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois)
24 Connecticut 22 (#3 New Mexico, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5 Michigan 22 (#11 Indiana, #23 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11 Indiana 24 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30 Pittsburgh 27 (#5 Michigan, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)
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10 Kansas 69 (#9 Michigan State, #18 Oklahoma State, #26 Oklahoma, #222 TCU)
...do this for KU
Best losses! SEC! SEC! SEC!
:lol:Best losses! SEC! SEC! SEC!
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses
1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses
1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)
I can honestly say i did not expect to see New Mexico there.
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses
1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)
I can honestly say i did not expect to see New Mexico there.
The computers love the Mountain West, its gross.
#13Behind Oklahoma State. :dubious:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Miles Simon has us at 10, and KU at 17.
Our 5 losses are all to teams in the top 9. PLAY TO SEED! :ksu:
Our 5 losses are all to teams in the top 9. PLAY TO SEED! :ksu:
You forgot about our loss to moldaggie, but it's understandable. They're pretty forgetable.
Also, Seth Davis just nailed it with his ballot
18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)
The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.
The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.
Bilas:Quote18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)
The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.
The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.
Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
:excited:they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.
If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
disappointing Luke Winn isn't a fan of the cats.
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work :D
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.
If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work :D
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.
If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work :Dthey have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.
If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
i don't even :rolleyes:
Bilas:Quote18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)
The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.
The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.
Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
GCJ, can you give us an update on how Washburn is doing this season? Haven't been keeping up with them.
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work :Dthey have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.
If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
i don't even :rolleyes:
Meh. So I need an editor. Meh.
Bilas:Quote18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)
The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.
The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.
Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools. That is not really setting the world on fire.
GCJ, can you give us an update on how Washburn is doing this season? Haven't been keeping up with them.
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.
Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country. Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally. That is quite the impressive improvement. I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance. I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter. Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit. I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.
Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country. Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally. That is quite the impressive improvement. I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance. I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter. Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit. I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.
You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.
Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country. Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally. That is quite the impressive improvement. I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance. I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter. Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit. I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.
You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.
Did you read my post? I pointed out two possibilities of the difference between the states and went with the one that said at the beginning of the year they were struggling with a new offense but have now figured that out.
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.
Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country. Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally. That is quite the impressive improvement. I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance. I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter. Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit. I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.
You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.
Did you read my post? I pointed out two possibilities of the difference between the states and went with the one that said at the beginning of the year they were struggling with a new offense but have now figured that out.
I was mostly referencing the "they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance" and "I do think they will cool off at least a little bit" parts. We've been very consistent since conference play started, and we have TCU, Texas and Tech games coming up. Don't know why you are suggesting that we will cool off.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
He's just a t-shirt phogtard. Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
He's just a t-shirt phogtard. Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
He's just a t-shirt phogtard. Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
He's just a t-shirt phogtard. Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.
:sdeek: I have never been so offended in my life.
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?
http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)
16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)
The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?
http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)Quote16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)
The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first
...and Rece Davis. :dubious:
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first
...and Rece Davis. :dubious:
Still 13 in today's AP poll
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first
...and Rece Davis. :dubious:
Rece Davis is OK in my book. He says "EMAW" with loads of enthusiasm all the rough ridin' time on TV, so he has a free pass from me as long as he keeps that up.
Still 13 in today's AP poll
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?
http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)Quote16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)
The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.
wow, Bilas must be on teamburnitdown?
if Michigan beats #9Msu today there is no reason we shouldn't be 10th
if Michigan beats #9Msu today there is no reason we shouldn't be 10th
I think we are sitting at 10th right now and if Michigan beats MSU we could swap with MSU at 9th.
Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night
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Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night
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It's like you all forget WE ARE the Kansas State Wildcats.
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crazy like a fox anywho we haven't lost in forever and everybody we needed to lose has. It's a media driven market and Espn want a 7-11 matchup saturdayGuys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night
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Although I think you are crazy I'm crossing my fingers that you are right! :pray:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/top25
sparty with 7 losses ranked 6 spots over the next team with more than 5 losses.
Also, we should be above both sparty and louisville
Someone needs to explain to me how a team with a 22-7 record deserves to be ranked seventh in the country. They shouldn't even be in the top 15 at this point.
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football. :dunno:
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football. :dunno:
Big east
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Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football. :dunno:
I love rankings threads! :dance:
gunna miss it next year.
I love rankings threads! :dance:
gunna miss it next year.
We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.
Our main weakness next yr will be at big unless DJamer gets a big soph bounce.
That said, we have been playing small all yr so next yr we just plug nino in at 4, shane at 3, and we will have a legitimate starting 5. If foster can beat out will, all the better.
15. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 16)
The Wildcats are in the mix for a share of the Big 12 title, even though Kansas beat them twice. oscar Weber has done a remarkable job with this team. Kansas State showed a lot of toughness to execute under stress at Baylor and for Rodney McGruder to hit the game-winner with a second left in regulation.
Kansas State is not a great defensive team, but a good one, and this offense has continued to improve throughout the season. Right now, Kansas State is one of the 25 most efficient offenses in the country, and a large part of that comes from activity on the offensive glass, as the Wildcats are 10th in the country in offensive rebounding percentage, which means easier second shots. Kansas State is not quite as good on the opposite backboard, giving up too many second opportunities.
McGruder has had a great season, and is a clear choice for first team All-Big 12. Kansas State has won nine of 10 since losing back-to-back games to Kansas and Iowa State, and the Wildcats are ranked No. 33 in the BPI, No. 31 in KemPom.com, and No. 21 in the Sagarin ratings. The Bilastrator has Kansas State more in line with Sagarin, which makes Sagarin correct.
Starting to think Bilas sucks.
Starting to think Bilas sucks.
oh he's a definite loser. but not thinking the cats are very good has nothing to do with that.
#9 - AP
Also, Rece still hates us.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
#9 - AP
Also, Rece still hates us.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
King! And Gasaway!
Rece Davis has K State at #19? Is he even watching games this year?
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.
its the only thing he's right about, his anti-NCAA stance is so dumb all Duke grads and attorneys should be embarrassed that a peer could have such a first level thought process
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.
its the only thing he's right about, his anti-NCAA stance is so dumb all Duke grads and attorneys should be embarrassed that a peer could have such a first level thought process
what makes it dumb? seems to be pretty logical.
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).
Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0
:nerd:
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).
Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0
:nerd:
Washburn State? :dunno:
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).
Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0
:nerd:
Is it?
Is it?
yeah, they won back-to-back Big 12 titles in the 90's, and that was after Tim Floyd had some really good teams. I have no idea what they were like before the 90's though.
Kinda surprising ISU has only been int the top 10 for 29 weeks in their history.
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).
Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0
:nerd:
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska
Just shows how irrelevant the old days were. Good grief, I had no idea.
that stat means as much to me as all-time football records
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska
Just shows how irrelevant the old days were. Good grief, I had no idea.
it really shows that isu bball only became decent in the mid 80s. they've been pretty good since then, but weren't worth crap until the mid 80s.
that stat means as much to me as all-time football records
Hey dorks, thanks for rough ridin' up a once informative thread with trivial anecdotes about how irrelevant isu bball is.
Good segueHey dorks, thanks for rough ridin' up a once informative thread with trivial anecdotes about how irrelevant isu bball is.
We're 9/10
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).
Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0
:nerd:
KSU finally made Winn's rankings! :D up 7 spots(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fchemical_light%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fexclamation.gif&hash=89a5261aa5f26cc6cdeccb506eb97930cc0dc09d) to 13. However we didn't get any fancy charts. :frown:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130306/college-basketball-power-rankings/
do they put out rankings the Monday after Selection Sunday? Is this Monday the last rankings before the post season rankings? :confused:
man, tomorrow could of been fun but dropping out of the top 10 will suck :(Don't care. Champs!
man, tomorrow could of been fun but dropping out of the top 10 will suck :(Don't care. Champs!
Kansas State Wildcats (25-6)
oscar Weber is having a sensational debut season at K-State, having led the Wildcats to a share of the Big 12 title (with a 14-4 league record) and what could very well be a No. 4 seed in the NCAAs. He's done quite well for himself after being fired from Illinois.
But here's a surprising fact: Weber's penultimate Illini team, which did not really get anyone excited, going 19-13 overall (9-9 in the Big Ten) while earning a No. 9 seed in the NCAAs, had a much better efficiency rating than his current K-State club.
The 2010-11 Illini ranked 18th in kenpom, while this year's Wildcats are 35th. Weber was perceived to be flailing in those final Champaign years, when in actuality, he had a decent team; now, he's perceived to be thriving with a less-efficient product. Life is better for him away from the Big Ten.
#15 in Winn's rankings.QuoteKansas State Wildcats (25-6)
oscar Weber is having a sensational debut season at K-State, having led the Wildcats to a share of the Big 12 title (with a 14-4 league record) and what could very well be a No. 4 seed in the NCAAs. He's done quite well for himself after being fired from Illinois.
But here's a surprising fact: Weber's penultimate Illini team, which did not really get anyone excited, going 19-13 overall (9-9 in the Big Ten) while earning a No. 9 seed in the NCAAs, had a much better efficiency rating than his current K-State club.
The 2010-11 Illini ranked 18th in kenpom, while this year's Wildcats are 35th. Weber was perceived to be flailing in those final Champaign years, when in actuality, he had a decent team; now, he's perceived to be thriving with a less-efficient product. Life is better for him away from the Big Ten.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130312/college-basketball-power-rankings/index.html
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.
You know what I'm going to tell him just that
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.
You know what I'm going to tell him just that
I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.
You know what I'm going to tell him just that
I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.
Do you think there are 30ish teams better than us?
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.
You know what I'm going to tell him just that
I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.
Do you think there are 30ish teams better than us?
#12 in the AP Poll in the last reg season poll
Ending up winning 20 of last 25 after the Gonzaga loss
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless. Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us. At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings. What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI? Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.
You know what I'm going to tell him just that
I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless. Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us. At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings. What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI? Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?
still hilarious that people still don't understand RPI
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless. Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us. At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings. What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI? Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?
still hilarious that people still don't understand RPI
Football fans that visit the basketball board for three weeks don't count. I mean you're expecting someone who doesn't think football polls are a joke to understand the RPI.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/98690/revised-top-25-post-deadline-edition
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)Thx! :thumbsup:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)
Well, that team really underachieved. I forgot we were ranked so highly. Pullen, Curt Kelly, McGruder, JamSam. CU just kept kicking our ass that year. :frown:
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...
No Colorado & no Frank in 14-15. So... :dunno:
That teams was pretty good at the end of the season, earned a 5 seed. Had a lot of weird issues early.im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...
No Colorado & no Frank in 14-15. So... :dunno:
Meh
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Bleacher Report has us at #17 on their early preseason top 25. I'd post the article, but my work computer breaks down everytime I access that site. :lol: Also, slide show. :Yuck:
Welcome to Bramalage Coliseum, home of your #44 ranked Kansas State Wildcats
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/middle
:love:
:love:
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on-college-basketball/25331040/cbs-sports-2015-16-ranking-of-every-college-basketball-team-from-1-351
11th
Bad news- 2nd lowest in the Big 12, by a decent margin.
Good news-much higher rated than Mizzou
they'll finish sub100, kenpom.
the bottom is not going to fall out. they'll be boringly mediocre, not incendiarily bad.
the bottom is not going to fall out. they'll be boringly mediocre, not incendiarily bad.
What is the evidence for this?
I love rankings threads! :dance:
gunna miss it next year.
We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.
Finally got back into this thread from where I left it in early '13 and oh man. :frown:I love rankings threads! :dance:
gunna miss it next year.
We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
damn, just realized i outed myself as having k-state listed as my "fav team" in kenpom. :frown:
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
I hope this is true for the sake of my eyeballs, but I don't know if I believe that based on my hunches and limited info on the roster.
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
I hope this is true for the sake of my eyeballs, but I don't know if I believe that based on my hunches and limited info on the roster.
if you aren't sold on this team being top 100 after reading brettgpc's scrimmage review, then well i don't know what to tell you
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
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RV!!!!
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Let the goetard butthurt flow :Woohoo:I am.smiling.
I still love this thread title.
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Let the goetard butthurt flow :Woohoo:
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
Do you still listen to all the college hoops podcasts? I used to when we were relevant and then would try to listen for things like that but I'm a year behind and will never catch up. So please just report on things like that and I'll unsubscribe.
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
can you give me the approx. time in the podcast and the date?
If we finish the season in the top 25, would that be a good year?
I love Brad but everything else about OSU basketball is incredibly hateable.
I am rooting for Brad to make oscar's failures too big to ignore
I would imagine that his contract has something specific as a barrier to doing specifically that. :dunno:What about Huggs and West Virginia tho? :dunno:
I mean, I would if I was OSU's AD.
0% chance we could hire him as long as currie is at kstate.Correct. Currie would never admit he mumped up then by offering him now and Brad would never work for Currie.
Poor comparo, imo.
We were waaaaay more dogshitty then than OSU is now and Huggs was waaaaay more of an established coach then than Brad is now(he had more leverage to negotiate a favorable contract).
I love Brad but everything else about OSU basketball is incredibly hateable.
I assume you speak only of the present and not the recent past. OSU had many great years under Mr. Iba.
Others receiving votes: Florida 44, Wichita State 33, Virginia Tech 32, Maryland 31, Valparaiso 9, TCU 8, Middle Tennessee 7, Minnesota 6, Miami 6, Kansas State 4, UCF 2, Michigan St. 2, Syracuse 2, Ohio State 2, Pittsburgh 2, Clemson 1, Loyola of Chicago 1, Iowa State 1.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-villanova-remains-no-1-usc-enters-ap-top-25/
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
:DWell yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
Remember when Bob Knight did big monday? :lol: Anyway he would say BINGO when someone would hit a three or a big free throw. He's say BINGO when reading the last sentence of your post.
:thumbs:Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
Last year South Carolina went undefeated into January in order to get ranked. If you want someone to about our deserved NCAA seed with, best call this dude
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcollegepolltracker.com%2Fimages%2Fpollsters%2Fdoug-doughty.jpg&hash=b8eac6df0f3cb0849a26f8e3446430c77e54097f)
That's fair.Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn. they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.
and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6)That guy is an AP voter for football too, and I believe he was a Stud of the Week once or twice in the last couple years.
stud
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Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn. they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.
and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn. they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.
and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
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So their biggest non-con win was away at Clemson. What's CSU's kenpom right now? Not expecting it to be great by any means, but it might be close.Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not? because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did. but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't.
signed,
confused poster in KC
i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn. they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.
and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
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We went from receiving 4 votes to 1, after our best performance of the year. Awesome stuff, guys!Gotta love the polls
Easy there guy, just helping you out.My bad.
only one voter has ranked us all season, and that man is Doug "Doughboy" Doughty, of the Roanoke Times in Roanoke, VA. He had us at 22 last week and dropped us to 25 this week.That makes sense. Ty!
Moving ahead of the Cats in Doughboy's poll were Arizona, Oregon and Butler.
yep, doughboy better come correct this week
And the women check in this week at No. 24 in AP. :emawkid:
Joe Leadingham :love:
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)
Joe Leadingham :love:
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)
So our guy Doug Doughty went from the only guy ranking us, to not ranking us at all after a last second loss at KU and a double digit win over OU.
Interesting.
Joe Leadingham :love:
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)
So our guy Doug Doughty went from the only guy ranking us, to not ranking us at all after a last second loss at KU and a double digit win over OU.
Interesting.
:doom:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Joe Leadingham :love:
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)
Bradley Korn turning Wade into an all league player has paid dividends.I agree Coach Cornboy is making a difference wirh Sneed, Claws, and DJamer. He has played these positions, and what he.teaches isn't theory. AP 25th pretty good. It is interesting watching people chase the bandwagon. Good chane.to beat Tech, and baylor who beat ISU by 3 and cowokies by 5.
Very disappointing from Doug, who is now a two time Dud.where does Doug Prishpreed have the boyz
Inexcusable from Doughboy.
What is South Carolina ranked?
We finished unranked
Got it, thanks.
Doug DUD Doughty was the only one who voted for the Cats last week at 25th. This week, one would expect K-State to move up his ballot, but alas, Doug continued to defy rationality by not voting for the cats at all this week. I'm considering penning a letter to the Roanoke Times to see if I can get any clarity on this matter.
I'm sure there are other examples throughout the country for different teams, but Doughty's treatment of the Cats in particular has been pretty funny to watch all season.Doug DUD Doughty was the only one who voted for the Cats last week at 25th. This week, one would expect K-State to move up his ballot, but alas, Doug continued to defy rationality by not voting for the cats at all this week. I'm considering penning a letter to the Roanoke Times to see if I can get any clarity on this matter.
These guys don't really pay attention at all, do they?
#28 in coaches.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
I felt like we did way more this week to be ranked than we did the week we actually got ranked.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-19/andy-katzs-power-36-predicting-whos-and-out-ncaa-tournament
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-19/andy-katzs-power-36-predicting-whos-and-out-ncaa-tournament
Looks like some people are coming around and getting over the "week OOC schedule" point and seeing that we've actually got some decent Big 12 wins even without beating the top 3.
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams. That seems light. Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams. That seems light. Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams. That seems light. Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams. That seems light. Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.
It's far more likely we end up with 6 than 1. We also will only have 1 loss to a non tourney team, whatever that is worth.
Which 6 tourney teams we talkin bout
Which 6 tourney teams we talkin bout
Not six teams, six wins
What did we end up ranked after the tournament last year? Or were we?
Marquette should be a fun test
I expected the same, BUT . . . that was painful to watch (in person). Here's my hope: Marquette continues to improve and becomes a "good loss" (by tourney/RPI standards) and their wins continue to bolster our RPI. Hopefully it was a wakeup call to our guards too. They got absolutely embarrassed by Marcus Howard :horrorsurprise:Marquette should be a fun testI expect to win that contest comfortably
A 45 point game in college is pretty much always an anomaly, no matter how good the athlete is or how bad the defense is.
Not sure how good Marquette is, but Howard shot out of his mind. In a regularly officiated game I think Barry could limit him. Maybe we are not very good as some would suggest but I’m not convinced of that based on Saturday.
A 45 point game in college is pretty much always an anomaly, no matter how good the athlete is or how bad the defense is. We probably would not have won anyway, but certainly no reason to panic yet. I think dropping us to #16 is pretty fair.Dropping to #16 is VERY kind, IMHO. I think we're more like a borderline top 20 team, but we have much greater potential if all cylinders start hitting in order (see last year's elite 8 appearance as evidence).
Hey guys. I'm no expert but I don't think we stay in the rankings this week.
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HilariousHey guys. I'm no expert but I don't think we stay in the rankings this week.
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T-25!
All this is is another opportunity for oscar to blow another game against an unranked foe. It's a media conspiracy to get rid of him. The schedule makers are doing him no favors.
i’d love to get one to open up conference play and then get to be a ranked team. and then when we become a ranked team, we will enjoy all of the riches that come along with being a ranked team. nothing will stop us, ever.
LSU, a team that had its heart removed like an Aztec sacrificial offering by Nowell, beat Arkansas last night.
:Jeffy:LSU, a team that had its heart removed like an Aztec sacrificial offering by Nowell, beat Arkansas last night.
How'd we lose to Butler? Jeez, we'd be enjoying the riches of being ranked right now.
If we win Saturday against ranked WVU, could we become ranked? :dunno:Maybe!
I'll take all the riches over none of the riches
It's been well established that only true fans receive all of the riches
Every (Big 12 Team) is currently ranked in the top 40 at KenPom.com
Tang, now 56, waited until he was 55 years old to accept his first head-coaching job in college and took over a Kansas State program that had gone 13-41 in Big 12 contests the previous three seasons. That reality prompted the coaching change. Tang was hired March 21, and in a matter of just a few months, he used the transfer portal to remake KSU's roster to the point where seven of the Wildcats' top eight scorers this season are players who were not in KSU's program last season
GUYS, THE RICHES!
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-surges-into-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-texas-extending-win-streak/QuoteEvery (Big 12 Team) is currently ranked in the top 40 at KenPom.com
:eek:QuoteTang, now 56, waited until he was 55 years old to accept his first head-coaching job in college and took over a Kansas State program that had gone 13-41 in Big 12 contests the previous three seasons. That reality prompted the coaching change. Tang was hired March 21, and in a matter of just a few months, he used the transfer portal to remake KSU's roster to the point where seven of the Wildcats' top eight scorers this season are players who were not in KSU's program last season
:love: :love: :love:
icymi we’re talking about riches itt and there’s a crapload of them coming to mhk on monday
AP poll is broken. I'd be surprised if we're above 15Easily in the top 15. Never seen this type of bouncy house season in my life when it comes to the sport.
Where do we debut, 15? Higher?
Tbh I’m not even sure an “embarrassment” of riches is appropriate at this point. We probably need a humiliation or fuckton of riches or something idk.
Jeez, that is a lot.Tbh I’m not even sure an “embarrassment” of riches is appropriate at this point. We probably need a humiliation or fuckton of riches or something idk.
Id just like to offer some perspective WRT the quantity of riches we’re talking about here. Folks, to give you an idea…take the combined computing power of every datacenter that exists on planet earth this day…well, the amount of time it would take for them to calculate how much riches we got…none of the people that will be alive when that computation is complete have even been born yet.
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1611901089384726529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611901089384726529%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=Top 5 or gtfo :don'tcare:
BESTOW US!!
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1611901089384726529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611901089384726529%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
BESTOW US!!
Not sure where we'll be, honestly will be shocked to be higher than 15 (but will take)
What is the highest someone has debuted in the AP no being ranked before? Like if we legit debut in the top 10 that has to be some sort of record, right?
https://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/ap/research/unranked-to-ranked.cfm#.Y7ox-qRMF8g
Tom
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Not sure where we'll be, honestly will be shocked to be higher than 15 (but will take)
What is the highest someone has debuted in the AP no being ranked before? Like if we legit debut in the top 10 that has to be some sort of record, right?https://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/ap/research/unranked-to-ranked.cfm#.Y7ox-qRMF8g
Tom
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Would be no where close to the record.
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crap. We are slated for Tuesdays for both Quad Squad matchups this year. Can the commission change that?
Gary loves the crap out of us.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-enters-top-10-as-legit-big-12-contenders-after-ot-win-at-baylor/
Colley Matrix has Cats at #6I know it is still early but these Cats seem to have the makings of a team that could be dangerous in March.
1. KU
2. Zona
3. Bama
4. Houston
5. Purdue
6. KSU Cats
https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
KSU Colley profile and similar teams ——> https://www.colleyrankings.com/scgi-bin/hteamsplot.cgi?i1=162&i2=262&i3=73&i4=203&i5=194&s=2
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19
Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19
Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.
That guy is taking a beating in the comments.
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19
Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.
That guy is taking a beating in the comments.
I saw that. We even have squawks defending us in his comments.
plenty of tough choices and emissions, you dry dicked clowns
Post it, KK.
https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-be-careful-what-you-wish-for-in-basketball-poll/article_16c12692-e620-5d41-ae2f-2cee93c262ae.html
kenpom has us as a middle of the pack big 12 team, and also the luckiest team in the top 50. we are a bubble waiting to burst.let’s enjoy it until it does!
He's just jealous his beloved Haavard isn't ranked. Also, are they still using 1980s word processors at the Mercury?
still not in the kenpom top 25 (#26 overall, #36 offense, #36 defense)
holding us back: offensive TO%, defensive rebounding, defensive fouling.
we are top 75 (top 25%) in all other areas: offensive FG%, defensive FG%, defensive TO%, Oboard%, FTA/FGA
if you've noticed our tempo and thought "nice", you are correct. our tempo, for those interested, is 69.9 possessions per game, which is the #69 fastest in the country.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/)Gary rough ridin' loves us.
:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj: (ftp://:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj:)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/)Gary rough ridin' loves us.
:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj: (ftp://:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj:)
I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.
Is there a last season bias for those computer metrics? Or do they just not take into account love and passion for the game?I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.
Our net ranking is 15, kenpom is 26. The pollsters like us a lot better than the computers do.
Is there a last season bias for those computer metrics? Or do they just not take into account love and passion for the game?I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.
Our net ranking is 15, kenpom is 26. The pollsters like us a lot better than the computers do.
Also, computers generally don’t respond as well to close and OT wins as pollsters; excluding the reputable Colley Matrix https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo
Is that just a function of weak non conference or do we need to be blowing out more teams?kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo
AFAIK the NET doesn’t though, that 15 is a tough pill to swallow.
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo
AFAIK the NET doesn’t though, that 15 is a tough pill to swallow.
We played a lot of close games against the weak nonconference.
Also, computers generally don’t respond as well to close and OT wins as pollsters; excluding the reputable Colley Matrix https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
I think the colley matrix is interesting but, unlike football, is functionally useless for basketball because we know the actual criteria selection the tools used during that selection and the colley matrix isn't one of those.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230121/686795c22800e7944b23268c5e6bb099.jpg)Looks like we're the finger cuff in the suspect and streaky love triangle.
Infographic based on +/- 10-to-0 runs in games
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What an absolutely terrible article. K-State is pretty easily a top 20 all time program. Why does our fanbase always need to be some type of underdog program in football and/or basketball?Ned is Wooly brained. There are plenty of other people that think like this. Chignon wrote essays on the mentality of this part of the fan base.
Number 5 in the ESPN Power Rankings. KU is number 6, which is very good for them considering KU's troubling struggles of late.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35503553/houston-kansas-lose-big-alabama-new-no-1-men-college-basketball-power-rankings-2022-23
It's definitely okNumber 5 in the ESPN Power Rankings. KU is number 6, which is very good for them considering KU's troubling struggles of late.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35503553/houston-kansas-lose-big-alabama-new-no-1-men-college-basketball-power-rankings-2022-23
Number 6 is quite respectable!
5 in the AP!
5 in the AP!
I'm like alright let's settle down
If we win our next two conference games plus the Florida game it’s on like donkey Kong for a 2 seed or better.We’d be a 1
If we win our next two conference games plus the Florida game it’s on like donkey Kong for a 2 seed or better.
feels weirdI know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.
feels weirdI know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.
I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
What a beautiful analogy.feels weirdI know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.
I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
Tang is the veteran mountain man, making sure we acclimate to the rarified air so we don't get altitude sickness. I trust he will guide us and in the end we will all have bigger lungs that are better able to function in low oxygen environments.
Tang has been to the mountaintop before and now he's taking us. #InTangWeTrustfeels weirdI know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.
I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
Tang is the veteran mountain man, making sure we acclimate to the rarified air so we don't get altitude sickness. I trust he will guide us and in the end we will all have bigger lungs that are better able to function in low oxygen environments.
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiencyYes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year
My favorite is “I’d rather be lucky than good.”we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom
One of my favorite sayings is "you make your own luck".
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiencyYes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year
Maybe because he's playing from ahead more often? But I think the formula mostly accounts for it with efficiency. Still has been close to the 300sIt just means our win% is outpacing our efficiencyYes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year
i think you're probably right. Self is the exception, i'd imagine in part because he is amazing at drawing up plays in tight late game situations, and more often than not has better players to execute them.
oscar luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#61) -0.092 (#344)
2021 (#147) +0.026 (#117)
2020 (#90) -0.129 (#348)
2019 (#20) +0.049 (#65)
2018 (#42) +0.071 (#31)
2017 (#30) -0.029 (#256)
2016 (#55) -0.052 (#298)
2015 (#81) +0.010 (#158)
2014 (#45) +0.001 (#185)
2013 (#27) +0.051 (#51)
Scott Drew luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#4) +0.004 (#163)
2021 (#2) +0.046 (#80)
2020 (#3) +0.016 (#144)
2019 (#35) -0.029 (#255)
2018 (#34) -0.079 (#335)
2017 (#13) +0.023 (#126)
2016 (#24) -0.012 (#211)
2015 (#14) -0.035 (#268)
2014 (#26) +0.012 (#157)
2013 (#28) -0.090 (#333)
Bill Self luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#3) +0.041 (#88)
2021 (#27) +0.070 (#44)
2020 (#1) +0.040 (#79)
2019 (#17) +0.076 (#26)
2018 (#9) +0.076 (#23)
2017 (#6) +0.067 (#32)
2016 (#3) +0.044 (#75)
2015 (#12) +0.070 (#33)
2014 (#7) -0.051 (#295)
2013 (#8) +0.010 (#153)
Expect to win, dude. The higher ranking is great for recruiting and fuels media attention, which builds even more recruiting momentum.feels weirdI know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.
I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
Four teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.
One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.
The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.
Most have all three.
In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.I respect this way of ranking.QuoteFour teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.
One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.
The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.
Most have all three.
100p.In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.I respect this way of ranking.QuoteFour teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.
One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.
The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.
Most have all three.
100p.In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.I respect this way of ranking.QuoteFour teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.
One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.
The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.
Most have all three.
I appreciate anyone principled in their approach and willing to own it when it looks kind of silly in application.
Sheesh
(https://i.ibb.co/dLTNhkq/Screenshot-20230129-133533.png)
Let's all take a moment to acknowledge that before the season if you told us that we'd be pissed at being ranked 7th we would have blown our rough ridin' minds.
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
Let's all take a moment to acknowledge that before the season if you told us that we'd be pissed at being ranked 7th we would have blown our rough ridin' minds.
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
He was a threat to score away from the basket and had a handle in college, right? Could be considered a center in terms of his elite rebounding and ability to protect the rim, I guess.I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Sure, but he faced up quite a bit in college. I think sandstone is talking about a true back to the basket 80s & 90s big. I truly don't know the answer to that question. I do know the last big, like Edey to win MOP was Emeka Okafor. I don't remember that team good enough to know if he was far and away the best player though.I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Deandre Ayton
Deandre Ayton
That Arizona team lost in the first round, my guy.
Deandre Ayton
That Arizona team lost in the first round, my guy.
Okay? He averaged something like 20/12 that season
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
Sure, but he faced up quite a bit in college. I think sandstone is talking about a true back to the basket 80s & 90s big. I truly don't know the answer to that question. I do know the last big, like Edey to win MOP was Emeka Okafor. I don't remember that team good enough to know if he was far and away the best player though.I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
None of those teams scare me
I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Doesn't look like Purdue has any other NBA players on that roster.
PurDOODOO (as in poop!) :lol: :lol: :lol:Second grade me laughed at this one so hard on the school bus the night that the Cats beat them in Pontiac.
Seth Davis' ballot is a little WTF as well
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2022/week-17
Seth Davis' ballot is a little WTF as well
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2022/week-17
Yeah, if you think UT, Baylor and KU are all top 6 teams then you should probably like the team that's 4-2 against them.
First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!
You of all people should know it’s unsafe to walk up to a hidden front porch, there’s a 50/50 shot the owner is waiting with their .45 just waiting for someone uninvited to walk up. Yet you’re posting unsafe internet links out here!First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!
I just copy/paste the link bro.
Regarding USC, a good teacher lets his pupil uncover the truth thru a little digging.
You of all people should know it’s unsafe to walk up to a hidden front porch, there’s a 50/50 shot the owner is waiting with their .45 just waiting for someone uninvited to walk up. Yet you’re posting unsafe internet links out here!First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!
I just copy/paste the link bro.
Regarding USC, a good teacher lets his pupil uncover the truth thru a little digging.
Computer eyeball test, obvs
Do recruiting rankings factor in later in the season? Seems worthlessKenpom fades out preseason ratings as the season goes on, he wrote about it a few years ago iirc
First NET Ratings were released today, we're 100th, OOF :sdeek:
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
a good point guard would also turn it aroundFirst NET Ratings were released today, we're 100th, OOF :sdeek:
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
Big 12 looks to be strong af this year, so lots of opportunities for some good wins to turn that around.
I gotta feeling you’ll be getting the ELSE, my dudeThen the world shall feel my wrath
The USC and Miami losses aren't aging very well.
Winning in Ames is reason to believe we're a tournament lock. Winning in Houston is reason to believe we're going to compete for the conference title. Winning both makes us the conference favorites.
we were really spoiled/lucky last year. This team needed to replace an absurd amount of scoring but they play hard and grind out wins. don't be "bullish" if you don't want to but man I think this is a very enjoyable team to follow.