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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: gatoveintisiete on January 02, 2011, 02:13:47 PM
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
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trade nino for 95
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
Trade nick for canada.
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spri in the bottom five. seriously? eff me. eff you guys while i'm at it over how stupid you are. spri is fine.
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those definitely aren't the worst five players on the team. not sure what your point is.
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
Larry Reid
Nick Williams
Gilson DeJesus
Matt Seibrandt
Pervis Pasco
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Forgot he got a name change it was easier to avoid threads when it was cat27
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
Larry Reid
Nick Williams
Gilson DeJesus
Matt Seibrandt
Pervis Pasco
so, not the current team's worst five, and the 2000-2001 starters would destroy them.
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those definitely aren't the worst five players on the team. not sure what your point is.
sys, who is on your top five worst players list?
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Only reid and seibrandt were 00-01 starters from that list.
IIRC:
Reid
Terry
???
Seibrandt
Howell
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I guess Q started 26 games that year. LOL.
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Only reid and seibrandt were 00-01 starters from that list.
IIRC:
Reid
Terry
???
Seibrandt
Howell
Yeah, I put the 01-02 starters.
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those definitely aren't the worst five players on the team. not sure what your point is.
who is your worst five?
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
If my team ever got freddy to catch a ball down low, your post would reject him without jumping or else fred would throw a behind the back pass to the ball boy. We also would have no answer to your teams perimeter game with oj and canada raining down threes on us. You might argue that myles would do the same to you guys, but I would totally coach him to make the extra pass into the post disaster every time.
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:combofan:Worst vs Wooly's first.
PG - Canada couldn't hang with Reid. Not a chance. Myles may get off a shot or two, but advantage Wooly.
SG - I'll stick Williams here, fortunately Terry would not be a difficult guard for him, though Terry may be able to back down and post. However, Terry's lock down D would make it difficult for Nino, even with a quickness advantage; even match-up.
SF - OJ would have to hope Q doesn't go College Station on him. This would actually be a pretty good match-up; slight advantage to OJ's brawn vs Q's length.
PF - Sei's strength and nifty left hook would be tough for Pot. I'm afraid this is a big time advantage for Wooly's first.
C - Howell is the only Cat besides Beasley that I can remember with a 20-20 game in the OOD. JHR's length would bother him, but Howell could bang. Would be tough for JHR to score, advantage Wooly.
Bench - Tony vs Southwell. We all saw what Tony did to TJ. Enough said.
Worst would hang for a while, but the scoring trifecta of Reid, Sei, and Howell would be too much. Wooly's group goes 7-11 from three with only quality looks from the triangle and Worst is hurt by their 10-21 FT performance.
Wooly 67 - Worst 59
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wooly would run that baseline backdoor out of the triangle on us all rough ridin' night.
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
If my team ever got freddy to catch a ball down low, your post would reject him without jumping or else fred would throw a behind the back pass to the ball boy. We also would have no answer to your teams perimeter game with oj and canada raining down threes on us. You might argue that myles would do the same to you guys, but I would totally coach him to make the extra pass into the post disaster every time.
Freddy is much closer to being in the top 5 than the bottom 5, dumbass.
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
If my team ever got freddy to catch a ball down low, your post would reject him without jumping or else fred would throw a behind the back pass to the ball boy. We also would have no answer to your teams perimeter game with oj and canada raining down threes on us. You might argue that myles would do the same to you guys, but I would totally coach him to make the extra pass into the post disaster every time.
Freddy is much closer to being in the top 5 than the bottom 5, dumbass.
So far Fred has established that he has below average hands, no jumping ability, post moves that can't be counted on, does not pass well out of a double-team, can't hit the broad side of a barn from 15 feet, can't run the floor in a fast paced game, oh and sucks, his role on this team should be big body with 5 fouls to give off the bench.
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wooly would run that baseline backdoor out of the triangle on us all rough ridin' night.
Siebrandt would also get at least two behind the back dishes from the top of the triangle to the cutter.
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
If my team ever got freddy to catch a ball down low, your post would reject him without jumping or else fred would throw a behind the back pass to the ball boy. We also would have no answer to your teams perimeter game with oj and canada raining down threes on us. You might argue that myles would do the same to you guys, but I would totally coach him to make the extra pass into the post disaster every time.
Freddy is much closer to being in the top 5 than the bottom 5, dumbass.
So far Fred has established that he has below average hands, no jumping ability, post moves that can't be counted on, does not pass well out of a double-team, can't hit the broad side of a barn from 15 feet, can't run the floor in a fast paced game, oh and sucks, his role on this team should be big body with 5 fouls to give off the bench.
So far you have proven that you know absolutely nothing about basketball.
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my bad mrs. Asprilla :horrorsurprise:
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who is your worst five?
would have: potuzak, jhr, ojeleye & myles.
then one of williams, southwell or peterson. i'd lean southwell right now and lean that peterson doesn't deserve to be mentioned, but haven't really seen enough of any to say.
this assumes you want at least some semblance of position balance. otherwise i'd make southwell pg & lolmao at your team wiping the court w. my team.
I actually think Ojeleye is no where near the bottom 5.
Am I the only one that thinks Spradling should atleast get some consideration for the bottom 5? He's slow, turns the ball over a lot, and gets burned on defense by every PG he guards.
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God, Larry Reid was just nails. I would always pretend to be him when my friends and I would play bball.
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God, Larry Reid was just nails. I would always pretend to be him when my friends and I would play bball.
I once had a Paco May jersey.
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
Larry Reid
Nick Williams
Gilson DeJesus
Matt Seibrandt
Pervis Pasco
That's actually probably pretty close to the all-Wooly team. Switch DeJesus to the 2, stick Cartier at the 3 (replacing Williams), then replace Seibrandt with Massey. So Wooly had arguably 3 of the top 5 players of his tenure on the same team and finished what, 7th, that year? Was that the peak 6-10 year?
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Sprilla
Pota
Southy
95
Canada
Would have gladly taken a lineup like this 10 years ago.
Larry Reid
Nick Williams
Gilson DeJesus
Matt Seibrandt
Pervis Pasco
That's actually probably pretty close to the all-Wooly team. Switch DeJesus to the 2, stick Cartier at the 3 (replacing Williams), then replace Seibrandt with Massey. So Wooly had arguably 3 of the top 5 players of his tenure on the same team and finished what, 7th, that year? Was that the peak 6-10 year?
Yeah, I think he finished 7th in year 2. The lack of depth was ridiculous those first two years.
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And add Hoskins to all-Wooly. So basically, you have Reid.
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That's actually probably pretty close to the all-Wooly team. Switch DeJesus to the 2, stick Cartier at the 3 (replacing Williams), then replace Seibrandt with Massey. So Wooly had arguably 3 of the top 5 players of his tenure on the same team and finished what, 7th, that year? Was that the peak 6-10 year?
Wooly had several peak 6-10 seasons.
I think I'd highly consider Harris and Hoskins in the all-Wooly team over DeJesus and Pasco.
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That's actually probably pretty close to the all-Wooly team. Switch DeJesus to the 2, stick Cartier at the 3 (replacing Williams), then replace Seibrandt with Massey. So Wooly had arguably 3 of the top 5 players of his tenure on the same team and finished what, 7th, that year? Was that the peak 6-10 year?
Wooly had several peak 6-10 seasons.
I think I'd highly consider Harris and Hoskins in the all-Wooly team over DeJesus and Pasco.
Harris def. more athletic than DeJesus, but IIRC DeJesus was a more consistent shooter. Loved Hoskins, but he *was* undersized and seemed to struggle against teams with legit size (although a tremendously effective player for his size). Pervis was bigger, fairly well-coordinated, and also an effective player. The Fiasco may unfairly color the overall view of him, I feel.
Like I said, it's arguable. Lots of players with similar effectiveness. MichiganCat hit the big problem: lack of depth. Assemble 7 or 8 of those interchangable, decent players in one year, and Wooly could have made a run at .500. :ksu:
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:surprised:
I'm so confused.
After reading this site now for a year, I was convinced you guys had always been an elite basketball program. Now you guys are putting my head in a tailspin and I'm all confused. Haverhill= Most Confused ISU Poster on a Kansas State Board since 2010.
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:surprised:
I'm so confused.
After reading this site now for a year, I was convinced you guys had always been an elite basketball program. Now you guys are putting my head in a tailspin and I'm all confused. Haverhill= Most Confused ISU Poster on a Kansas State Board since 2010.
Stop being such a damn Iowegan.
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Pullen (Best)
McGruder
Kelly
Samuels
Irving
Asprilla
Russell
Spradling
Judge
JHR
Ojeleye
Peterson
Myles
Southwell
Williams
Potuzak (Worst)
That's how I see it.
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
He never really played before he got hurt. I think it makes sense to just trust Frank's evaluation on the players we've never really seen play, but if he gets his redshirt, it would probably be fair to just exclude him from this conversation.
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
He never really played before he got hurt. I think it makes sense to just trust Frank's evaluation on the players we've never really seen play, but if he gets his redshirt, it would probably be fair to just exclude him from this conversation.
Frank plays/played players that should never even see the court, like Merriwhether and Colon. Also, there's no way Spradling is better than Irving, and especially Russell, yet he gets more playing time.
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Pullen (Best)
McGruder
Kelly
Samuels
Irving
Asprilla
Russell
Spradling
Judge
JHR
Ojeleye
Peterson
Myles
Southwell
Williams
Potuzak (Worst)
That's how I see it.
Look mensa when you're on a basketball board and somebody asks you for your best 5, starting 5, or worst 5, they mean a lineup ok. Now in basketball a lineup traditionally includes a combination of guards, forwards, and sometimes a center, so don't give me 4 guards and pota and call it your worst 5, and to think you called me a dumbass :gocho:
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
He never really played before he got hurt. I think it makes sense to just trust Frank's evaluation on the players we've never really seen play, but if he gets his redshirt, it would probably be fair to just exclude him from this conversation.
Frank plays/played players that should never even see the court, like Merriwhether and Colon. Also, there's no way Spradling is better than Irving, and especially Russell, yet he gets more playing time.
You take that crap back about Colon.
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Pullen (Best)
McGruder
Kelly
Samuels
Irving
Asprilla
Russell
Spradling
Judge
JHR
Ojeleye
Peterson
Myles
Southwell
Williams
Potuzak (Worst)
That's how I see it.
Look mensa when you're on a basketball board and somebody asks you for your best 5, starting 5, or worst 5, they mean a lineup ok. Now in basketball a lineup traditionally includes a combination of guards, forwards, and sometimes a center, so don't give me 4 guards and pota and call it your worst 5, and to think you called me a dumbass :gocho:
I gave my worst 5 players, not my worst lineup. Just throw JHR in there to round out the posts. Williams would stay at the 3. Peterson, Myles, and Southwell haven't played enough for me to really determine who should move out of the bottom 5.
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
He never really played before he got hurt. I think it makes sense to just trust Frank's evaluation on the players we've never really seen play, but if he gets his redshirt, it would probably be fair to just exclude him from this conversation.
Frank plays/played players that should never even see the court, like Merriwhether and Colon. Also, there's no way Spradling is better than Irving, and especially Russell, yet he gets more playing time.
So what does that say about the players who never see the court?
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How could we put Nino in the bottom five when he's been hurt and played a total of like 5 min?
He never really played before he got hurt. I think it makes sense to just trust Frank's evaluation on the players we've never really seen play, but if he gets his redshirt, it would probably be fair to just exclude him from this conversation.
Frank plays/played players that should never even see the court, like Merriwhether and Colon. Also, there's no way Spradling is better than Irving, and especially Russell, yet he gets more playing time.
So what does that say about the players who never see the court?
Frank hates them.