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Quote from: Paul Moscow on March 11, 2014, 06:32:19 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 05:28:29 PMQuote from: seven on March 11, 2014, 05:19:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place. Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?The issue is that they haven't benefitted during a good economy, either. Looking at data now even during the several year "rebound" its apparent that the gains are still not returning to the middle and lower income classes that lost so much. Hence the argument for wage increases. Quite a "rebound" we're having! Guys, this Moscow guy is onto something. The poor can't get ahead even in this roaring recovery, so we really ought to hike the minimum wage and raise taxes or take on more debt to redistribute more money to them. The economy is fine - we've got to address inequality!
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 05:28:29 PMQuote from: seven on March 11, 2014, 05:19:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place. Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?The issue is that they haven't benefitted during a good economy, either. Looking at data now even during the several year "rebound" its apparent that the gains are still not returning to the middle and lower income classes that lost so much. Hence the argument for wage increases.
Quote from: seven on March 11, 2014, 05:19:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place. Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place. Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PMBoth sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
PPP is a left leaning pollster. Not sure how you guys don't know this. That being said, Brownback isn't winning this round by 30 points like he did last last time. Probably more like 10 or 15.The only things that have directly caused more poverty than social engineering are street drugs and Barack Obama. The unintended consequences of social engineering invariably outweigh the benefits by a substantial margin. Most recent examples include the mortgage crisis and crushing student loan debt.
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.
Quote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)
Quote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.
Quote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AMQuote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.
in the end, EMAW will always win.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:17:06 PMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AMQuote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.
yeah, parents should be able to opt out of math or typing also
Quote from: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 02:20:25 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:17:06 PMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AMQuote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.Less than 5% of parents opt out.http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:33:32 PMQuote from: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 02:20:25 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:17:06 PMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AMQuote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.Less than 5% of parents opt out.http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.Um, did you read your own link? Parents do have control, they can opt-out at the time that sex-ed classes are happening. When I was in elementary school this was the case, and I remember one girl in the whole class that went to watch beauty and beast or something while everyone else was learning about why they were getting BFNARs. I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what is it? Are you of the belief that sex-ed is useless?
Quote from: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 03:04:25 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:33:32 PMQuote from: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 02:20:25 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:17:06 PMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AMQuote from: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AMQuote from: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AMhttp://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.htmlBill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them. This is a tough one for me. I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.Less than 5% of parents opt out.http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.Um, did you read your own link? Parents do have control, they can opt-out at the time that sex-ed classes are happening. When I was in elementary school this was the case, and I remember one girl in the whole class that went to watch beauty and beast or something while everyone else was learning about why they were getting BFNARs. I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what is it? Are you of the belief that sex-ed is useless?That isn't what I'm saying at all. I think every kid should go to sex ed, but if their parents don't want them there, having the opportunity to opt out is just fine. It's not like very many parents actually opt out. Asking parents to opt in would be bad, though.
I've never understood the problem w/ sex ed.