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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: MakeItRain on January 16, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
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I know he isn't any good but my goodness the referees hate that dude. Both first half fouls were bad, the second one was just for boxing out, he didn't even back out just got into position. This is at least the third game I've seen this happen to him.
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He always has his hands on the offense though. Maybe if he used his hands less.
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I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
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I also hate him, whichever one he is.
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I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
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george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
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8 points and 6 rebounds from the post. Is this the best combo production for the post since Big 12 play has started?
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Makes Lou Colon look like Hakeem
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george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
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I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
Bold statement. You might be right. It could be, though, that we currently have two that are actually worse than Mawhateverhisnameis.
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^or four...
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george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
I don't remember those guys but I can't imagine they were worse if they played comparable minutes
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MIR, do you agree now that Maurice would have been a 10x better option?
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Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
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Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
He was. At least last night he wasn't a huge liability. He and Stockard at least combined to give us a serviceable 5 for one game. Who know Young would struggle that badly with a hard hedge/double on ball screens.
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george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
I don't remember those guys but I can't imagine they were worse if they played comparable minutes
hill was pretty terrible but Ham could get on a roll and score in the paint on occasion. Williams was the classic looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane but he at least looked cooler as hell at football games in rooting on the DoD 1.0 cats in a t-shirt with the sleeves ripped off.
Joe Leonard is the only big that was close to this bad but he could at least give a hard foul
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george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
I don't know any of these people, George Hill is the only name I've even heard.
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MIR, do you agree now that Maurice would have been a 10x better option?
He's better than MM but he still isn't any good, Mawein is the only one of the two playing D1 college basketball.
Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
I can't disagree with that assessment at all, it's an astute observation but the dude can't stay on the floor, he played 18 minutes. I think Stockard is much better, he'll improve with more playing time, he had 17 minutes last night.
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MIR, do you agree now that Maurice would have been a 10x better option?
He's better than MM but he still isn't any good, Mawein is the only one of the two playing D1 college basketball.
Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
I can't disagree with that assessment at all, it's an astute observation but the dude can't stay on the floor, he played 18 minutes. I think Stockard is much better, he'll improve with more playing time, he had 17 minutes last night.
We need the Stockard/Mawien two headed monster to give us about 8 and 8 every night. Last night was their best game in Big 12 play by far.
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We’d be a top 15 team with pervis pasco
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Think what matt seibrandt could do with this team
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We’d be a top 15 team with pervis pasco
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Truth
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
I was going to say wooly played really slow (which he did) but I looked it up and somehow oscar's team this year plays slower than that Wooly team.
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
I was going to say wooly played really slow (which he did) but I looked it up and somehow oscar's team this year plays slower than that Wooly team.
The thing is we play slowly more because of our defense than our offense.
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who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
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Whoever catches a ball and runs with it, saying he is #1, in under a second, thus giving the other team the
ball and then a clutch 3 to win the game, in my book........is not good at basketball :sdeek: :buh-bye:
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who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
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:Wha:
george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
I can’t get over the fact that George Hill’s genes produced a talented athlete.
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
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Pasco was a solid big 12 big.
I’m implying that we are a solid big 12 big away from being a top 15 team.
Could have said DJamer I guess but I think a pasco type would help more.
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
Les Craft had hands of stone.
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Ivan Sulic?
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
Perhaps. I'm probably biased because Mawien's per 100s, etc. for the season aren't that bad.
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Jack Karapetyan played 3.3 minutes in a cats uniform and is worse than anyone you can type into this message board
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Joe Leonard?
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
I remember the tempo under Wooly being slow but it must have been glacial if 8 RPG rates as 4th best tempo free the last 26 years
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people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
I remember the tempo under Wooly being slow but it must have been glacial if 8 RPG rates as 4th best tempo free the last 26 years
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who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
no, that's not what he meant
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
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who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
no, that's not what he meant
You're probably right
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
Decent with corn rows, elite with the afro
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
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I'm pretty sure that I read an article about how Manny Dies was the worst ever
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
omg. our poster dax has completely erased the player dax from my mind
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Jack Karapetyan played 3.3 minutes in a cats uniform and is worse than anyone you can type into this message board
I gave him a pretty good send off video tho
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
I hate the crap out of Dax Jones
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wait, dax jones is an actual person i should know?
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Also, it says Mawien's dad is a South Sudan ambassador? But i googled him and he's like a spokesman for the government. Seems weird.
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I thought Gerald Eaker was going to be good. I was wrong.
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I thought Gerald Eaker was going to be good. I was wrong.
McDonald's All American!
Also, when MCMW doesn't pan out.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-07-21/sports/9407210231_1_basketball-coach-randy-ayers-ohio-state-basketball-car
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How has no one mentioned Jason Bennett? Besides his fantastic Mutombo impression that guy was trash.
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Yeah bennett was such a waste
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Jason Bennett set the bar on neck size tho
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Bennett was legitimately a very good shot blocker. Mawien does nothing.
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I'm pretty sure that I read an article about how Manny Dies was the worst ever
Just wanted to give this post some love.
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Easily his best game
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lolol
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Mantool rises!
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only watched the second half and was blown away that he had 14 after an almost-missed wide-open layup. And his last shot that went in was blocked
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Mantool rises!
Never stop
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lolol
I mean, it's not like he has a high bar or anything.
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love him
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only watched the second half and was blown away that he had 14 after an almost-missed wide-open layup. And his last shot that went in was blocked
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Good game, he is still way too soft inside though. He can't jump at all, his rebounds are flat footed.
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He shut down that gross soviet too. That guy had yo cash 3's to get on the board.
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I don't think he's an awful jumper (Lou Colon like), but he's not a good rebounder or attacking the glass.
22 2pt shots & 6 FTAs in Big12 games. He's got 33 points here(14FG 5FT). 25 Possessions let's say. Thats the type of "added bonus" for the STUDs that is nice as long as he is not having an atrocious game on Defensive end.
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I’m not a huge fan. He can get lazy on both ends
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I’m not a huge fan.
to find a "huge fan" of mawein, you'd probably have to look to his immediate family...(possibly only ma dukes)
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I seriouly don't know what you guys watch during a game. Mawien has just played two great defensive games. His hedge defense on Young is what helped us shut him down. Last night he was a big key (along with help from Claws) in cutting down the screen and roll game between Robinson and Broz. Two blocks last night. 18 points on 8 for 11 from the field. Made two big free throws in crunch time. 5 rebounds just like TCUs big man Broz.
I'm a little slow so maybe I'm just being trolled.
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He played great
super happy
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I seriouly don't know what you guys watch during a game. Mawien has just played two great defensive games. His hedge defense on Young is what helped us shut him down. Last night he was a big key (along with help from Claws) in cutting down the screen and roll game between Robinson and Broz. Two blocks last night. 18 points on 8 for 11 from the field. Made two big free throws in crunch time. 5 rebounds just like TCUs big man Broz.
I'm a little slow so maybe I'm just being trolled.
The article in KC Star online about Mawien is good.
"After that one, Weber said Mawien had to learn how to play tougher if he wanted to stay in the rotation, let alone the starting lineup.
But something has changed since then. Mawien was genuinely good against the Horned Frogs, erupting for a career-high 18 points and five rebounds.
“I just told him that it’s not a welfare,” Weber said. “You have got to produce to get minutes. He has realized that. He has gained confidence.”
I also liked the part where it said that he has learned where to be on offense to get good shots. They found him yesterday. I think maybe Korn is having an effect. Friends have always told me that young bigs take a while to blossom. We will need a strong game from Mawien against that big Honker from Baylor.
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He has had a dip under layup, a block and a made three pointer all in 6 minutes! :Woohoo:
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Thank you for this thread, MIR. You have reversed his fortunes
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Best big man since Beasley
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Lou Colon < Mawien
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I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
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MIR really should talk crap on all of our players
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channeling his inner Todd Stewart
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Do you guys have working eyes? Soft layups, that up and under was horse crap, he shouldn't be doing that at 6'9", and banking in threes. cat97 is right, he's a plus defender, when he can stay on the floor. Those shots he made in the first half pissed me off even more because he might be the softest big man I've ever seen.
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YES!!! Keep it up MIR :excited:
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Do you guys have working eyes? Soft layups, that up and under was horse crap, he shouldn't be doing that at 6'9", and banking in threes. cat97 is right, he's a plus defender, when he can stay on the floor. Those shots he made in the first half pissed me off even more because he might be the softest big man I've ever seen.
It's working MIR. Keep going!
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Yeah, keep it up, Mawein might get 18pts on the reg.
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Lou Colon < Mawien
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Abdul Herrera < Mawien
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And we're back
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He's skilled enough but has no toughness or athleticism.
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Mantool rises. And scores. Defense good too.
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Very glad he has played well last 2 games.
He got his 2nd foul with us up 29-15. Bears were at 0.71 PPP prior to that foul. They got 25 pts in final 14 Poss of 1st half with him on bench. Stockard/Love/Sallah were just laughable bad and our small lineup struggled a bit on D late in the half
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Mantool scoring, yeah!!
Mantool defending, yeah!!
Mantool fouling and doing a boner, bad.
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when you get 4 fouls in 14 minutes it's difficult to say you're playing good defense
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Remember how all of you idiots forgot about abdul herrera when trying to find worse ksu 5s?
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Remember how all of you idiots forgot about abdul herrera when trying to find worse ksu 5s?
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I don't know if he counts, didn't he play less than 10 games before he quit? I'm actually quite surprised he survived the off season conditioning, I say that as someone who didn't.
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You're probably right. I was at a 5 when I posted that.
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Does Ron Anderson count?
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ron wasn’t as bad as many mentioned
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The debate over Abdul Herrera's existence will never end. #FattyFest
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I think he was likeable, so he didn't seem as bad, but he was bad.
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he averaged 5 and 5 off the bench in 08-09 with about 18 minutes a game, he got run so I'm guessing his defense was crap but I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Jack Krap or the others
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he averaged 5 and 5 off the bench in 08-09 with about 18 minutes a game, he got run so I'm guessing his defense was crap but I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Jack Krap or the others
He went on to have a pretty decent career at USF too.
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he averaged 5 and 5 off the bench in 08-09 with about 18 minutes a game, he got run so I'm guessing his defense was crap but I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Jack Krap or the others
oscar could go on to build K-State into Tom Izzo's Michigan State and I'll never forgive him for Jack K. and Michael Orris, what in the world was he thinking?
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Ron Anderson was an elite offensive rebounder. Just not very athletic, I remember questioning if he could dunk or not
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Ron Anderson Career Stats http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/36670/ron-anderson-jr (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/36670/ron-anderson-jr)
Michael Orris Career Stats http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/62711/michael-orris (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/62711/michael-orris)
Looks like both graduated with a degree so that's good.
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Ron Anderson was an elite offensive rebounder. Just not very athletic, I remember questioning if he could dunk or not
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He was a very good rebounder period. I remember being somewhat upset when he left.
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eff this guy, seriously. He's the tin man and the cowardly lion, dude needs a heart and courage, what a wimp.
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Bamba literally took the ball out of Mawein's hands then dunked on him, lol
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Well, he's no Brian Patrick, is he MIR???
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He was fine tonight. Your hatred for him is weird.
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_FAN, come on dude, his coach benched him less than two minutes in because he was clearly, clearly afraid of Bamba. That happened. After he got benched and had his playing time taken by James freaking Love he figured out that he should probably should convert the layups his guards were providing for him. I'm not going to act like he's Jeremiah Massey because he managed to do in the second half what James Love did in the first after his ass got benched.
He hit a big shot, again a layup created by Barry, in the second half then had it immediately negated when he let another man take the ball out of his hands then dunk on him with no resistance.
Did any of you notice when the caught the ball on the three point line in the last minute and literally everyone on the bench started screaming? That was hilarious and so perfect for Mawein.
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_FAN, come on dude, his coach benched him less than two minutes in because he was clearly, clearly afraid of Bamba. That happened. After he got benched and had his playing time taken by James freaking Love he figured out that he should probably should convert the layups his guards were providing for him. I'm not going to act like he's Jeremiah Massey because he managed to do in the second half what James Love did in the first after his ass got benched.
He hit a big shot, again a layup created by Barry, in the second half then had it immediately negated when he let another man take the ball out of his hands then dunk on him with no resistance.
Did any of you notice when the caught the ball on the three point line in the last minute and literally everyone on the bench started screaming? That was hilarious and so perfect for Mawein.
I never said anything about him being a great player. But he contributed tonight and was part of the reason we won the game. So did Love.
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Love was awesome, he's the sole reason we got anything out of MM. Have any of you ever seen a D1 player pass backwards out of the paint when there was no one between him and the rim? If oscar didn't pull him immediately after that like he did we would have been playing 4 on 5 all night.
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I will compliment him on one thing and one thing only because he does it very well. He is a not good, but great, team defender. One-on-one, not so much, but he's great doing everything else. He's always in perfect help position, he plays screen and roll/pop perfectly, and tonight when we went to the double of Bamba he did exactly the right thing with his footwork to allow the double to happen, then not foul. You have to shade high a little bit before the double comes then move to shade low to allow the second defender to maximize their coverage and he does that better than any big I've ever seen.
The good team defender thing is a big deal, it really is, enough to merit his minutes. I have to remember that when he acts like he is a 5'10" guard with the ball in his hands, or when he commits a stupid foul, or when he doesn't move when trying to get a defensive board. I've given up on him o boarding his three THREE! tonight gives him 8 total in the 11 games we've played since the start of conference play, counting Georgia.
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Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
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I will compliment him on one thing and one thing only because he does it very well. He is a not good, but great, team defender. One-on-one, not so much, but he's great doing everything else. He's always in perfect help position, he plays screen and roll/pop perfectly, and tonight when we went to the double of Bamba he did exactly the right thing with his footwork to allow the double to happen, then not foul. You have to shade high a little bit before the double comes then move to shade low to allow the second defender to maximize their coverage and he does that better than any big I've ever seen.
The good team defender thing is a big deal, it really is, enough to merit his minutes. I have to remember that when he acts like he is a 5'10" guard with the ball in his hands, or when he commits a stupid foul, or when he doesn't move when trying to get a defensive board. I've given up on him o boarding his three THREE! tonight gives him 8 total in the 11 games we've played since the start of conference play, counting Georgia.
:thumbs: :cheers:
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Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
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Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
Darn, 16 points from the Big Meats, and against Mamba the Manimal. Love points, sexy. I don't are if they are getting it done ugly as long as it is like tonight.
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Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
They are also horrific, this isn't an endorsement for anyone else, none of the bigs are good enough although James Love did have a very good game, you can absolutely call it that. If you could combine the best of Mawein and the best of Love you would then have a good rotational big.
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Mawien had a really nice game tonight. Great defense in the second half. Bamba scored 3 points on 1 for 5 with three turnovers in the second half. Mawien also did a great job hedging on screens without letting them drop it to Bamba.
Mawien played 18 minutes in the second half with 8 points on 4 for 7 with 1 steal and 3 offensive rebounds and no turnovers.
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mir's mawein hate is like my favorite part of this season. it's so extra. it's the best.
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Mawein spent most of the night looking like he was playing in roller skates.
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I still say he's the worst player in my lifetime that's played as many minutes as he has.
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I still say he's the worst player in my lifetime that's played as many minutes as he has.
MM fact of the day is a double fact:
Last night was only the 11th time this season, 24 games, MM had more rebounds than fouls. Last night he managed to have rebounds than fouls despite getting no defensive rebounds in 26 minutes. 10th time he's had either 0 or 1 defensive rebounds.
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bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
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bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
for sure. I only watched a tiny bit of the game, but I did see Mawien get an offensive rebound without Bamba in the game. He promptly threw up a layup that failed to draw iron.
:lol:
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bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
James Love didn't think so. Also loved The Flush going right into Bamba's chest late in the game.
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I love Love's size. Obviously not as agile as we want him right now after the surgeries. Do you think if he lost 20-25 lbs would that help next year?
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I still say he's the worst player in my lifetime that's played as many minutes as he has.
MM fact of the day is a double fact:
Last night was only the 11th time this season, 24 games, MM had more rebounds than fouls. Last night he managed to have rebounds than fouls despite getting no defensive rebounds in 26 minutes. 10th time he's had either 0 or 1 defensive rebounds.
If you want a good laugh, just watch MM try to get position to rebound. A few games ago he was in good position and an opposing player literally leaned on him and MM took 2 big steps forward and was out of bounds. He has zero idea how to setup a base, get big, get wide, hold your ground and attack the ball. It's like he's never been coached how to rebound. He just get's close to the basket and waits..it takes virtually no effort to muscle him completely out of position.
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bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
James Love didn't think so. Also loved The Flush going right into Bamba's chest late in the game.
He used the rim (well) to protect him from getting blocked on at least 2 of those lay ups.
I love Love's size. Obviously not as agile as we want him right now after the surgeries. Do you think if he lost 20-25 lbs would that help next year?
I think just being healthy long enough to trust is foot will help, but he's probably overweight simply because he's been injured so often.
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Makes sense
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Love has a vertical of 2" I swear
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Mawein is only a sophomore, and he's a pretty good player who has improved as the season has gone on.
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Mawien was a top 150 recruit for the class of 2015. It's OK to say he's underachieved so far, FSD.
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I love Love's size. Obviously not as agile as we want him right now after the surgeries. Do you think if he lost 20-25 lbs would that help next year?
If he can stay healthy this off season I expect him to take the biggest leap. Yeah he's overweight but like _FAN said I'm sure it's attributable to his health issues. He hasn't had off season conditioning yet.
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:thumbs:
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mawein's not thaaat terrible, and he's pretty much a freshman. but definitely shouldnt be a starter on a top 4 big 12 team
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It's going to be fun watching Mawein grow into a crowd favorite, just like Lou Colon did.
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mawein's not thaaat terrible, and he's pretty much a freshman. but definitely shouldnt be a starter on a top 4 big 12 team
lol he's also pretty much a junior
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it's too bad because I was really looking forward to mantool becoming a thing
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Mawien had a really nice game tonight. Great defense in the second half. Bamba scored 3 points on 1 for 5 with three turnovers in the second half. Mawien also did a great job hedging on screens without letting them drop it to Bamba.
Mawien played 18 minutes in the second half with 8 points on 4 for 7 with 1 steal and 3 offensive rebounds and no turnovers.
I'm pretty sure you must be related to him
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It's going to be fun watching Mawein grow into a crowd favorite, just like Lou Colon did.
LOL good luck with that. Also LuCo was a fan favorite because he was tough Frank Martin basketball and played his ass off. A center who averages 3 rebounds and 4 fouls a game while avoiding contact will never be anyone's favorite
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I love Makol. He is becoming a dude that we can somewhat count on.
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Mawein spent most of the night looking like he was playing in roller skates.
I mean seriously go watch the tape. He was literally out there doing this:
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I love Makol. He is becoming a dude that we can somewhat count on.
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Comparing just sophomore seasons Colon's per 40 average was noticeably worse that Mawien in most every statistical category, especially fouls.
Colon's PER 40
Fouls: 9.5
Rebounds: 7.9
Points: 7.7
Blocks: 1.8
TO's: 3.3
FT%: 38%
FG%: 35%
Mawien's PER 40
Fouls: 6.3
Rebounds: 6.9
Points: 13.1
Blocks: 2.1
TO's: 1.6
FT%: 70%
FG%: 65%
I don't get what the beef is with Mawien, he's actually got some good potential/athleticism compared to most of the big men we've rolled through here recently. Rebounding is the only area he is noticeably awful at, and I will agree with you there, we need more out of him on the boards.
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:sdeek:
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Comparing just sophomore seasons Colon's per 40 average was noticeably worse that Mawien in most every statistical category, especially fouls.
Colon's PER 40
Fouls: 9.5
Rebounds: 7.9
Points: 7.7
Blocks: 1.8
TO's: 3.3
FT%: 38%
FG%: 35%
Mawien's PER 40
Fouls: 6.3
Rebounds: 6.9
Points: 13.1
Blocks: 2.1
TO's: 1.6
FT%: 70%
FG%: 65%
I don't get what the beef is with Mawien, he's actually got some good potential/athleticism compared to most of the big men we've rolled through here recently. Rebounding is the only area he is noticeably awful at, and I will agree with you there, we need more out of him on the boards.
No one has ever had an issue with Mawein's skill nor did anyone ever praise LuCo for his so I'm not really understanding the point of this. Those of us who have an issue with Mawein have an issue with his lack of toughness, rebounding, and man-to-man defending when he's not on the perimeter. He's a fifth guard on the floor with little to no benefit of actually having a fifth guard on the floor.
I'd love Mawein to be Adrian Diaz.
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Colon was a fan favorite because he was a favorite to make fun of. The dude literally could not dunk.
As my son was growing up, he would lower our basketball goal down so he could try and dunk. Anytime he would miss a dunk, we would both say he looked like Colon. True story.
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pipe post
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I literally watched Lou Colon dunk on my teammate in a pickup game at the Chester, so I don't think you know what you are talking about
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lou was dating a girl I went to High School with and he showed up to my house with her.. It was very awkward
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(https://confessionsofa20somethingklutz.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ewww-really101413.gif)
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if he pulls the trigger on another three i might drive to manhattan and smother him in his sleep
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if he pulls the trigger on another three i might drive to manhattan and smother him in his sleep
what if he nails 3 3’s in a row
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if he pulls the trigger on another three i might drive to manhattan and smother him in his sleep
what if he nails 3 3’s in a row
he wont get the second one off before he goes to sleep for good
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So after I praise him on his pick and roll defense he completely got lost on two different pick and pops when they made their second half huge run and his man busted a three in his face, both times.
I'll also take this chance to put his line up
2 points 2 rebounds 2 turnovers 2 fouls
I got promise that Love would get minutes after oscar went to him early, nope.
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my man makol mawein posting quadruple doubles and still getting criticized
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I'm starting to legitimately hate him. I really don't want to but I can't ever recall such a combination of soft, lazy, and bad judgment. To hell with oscar for continuing to put him out there.
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I'm starting to legitimately hate him. I really don't want to but I can't ever recall such a combination of soft, lazy, and bad judgment. To hell with oscar for continuing to put him out there.
Welcome to the club, friend
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I just started watching and he had a block
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I just started watching and he had a block
crap maybe I've been wrong about him
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:lol:
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I just started watching and he had a block
Lucky you missed him turning the ball over because he tried to dribble when he caught the ball 6 feet from the rim, or tried and missed an up and under when he was face up to the rim on the block, or bricked a 19 foot jump shot, or gave a noticeable lack of effort on several rebounds.
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I was just as shocked as you guys
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i never notice him one way or the other. i've prolly watched 10-15 kstate games by now and i have no idea what he looks like.
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Holy crap, if he would just do that we won't have a problem, take it to the basket without the other bullshit.
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“Wow that’s a big time move right there!”
- announcers
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It's literally the first time he's done that since conference play started.
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One play can define an entire career. Makol “big time move” Mawein. :love:
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MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
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Our bigs are something. Stockard misses a jumper, then on the other side gets lost on a screen and roll then gets dunked on, comes down and turns the ball over then comes out. Our guy Mawein comes out and immediately gets a rebound taken right out of his hands again and gives up a basket. Dean stops the bleeding with a score but then Makol doesn't pressure his guy when he catches it to allow an easy basket, then doesn't even attempt to help in giving up another layup.
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
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MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
Holy crap!
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Mods please change MakeItRain to MakeItMawein
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MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
:lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
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8 rebounds!
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Our bigs are something. Stockard misses a jumper, then on the other side gets lost on a screen and roll then gets dunked on, comes down and turns the ball over then comes out. Our guy Mawein comes out and immediately gets a rebound taken right out of his hands again and gives up a basket. Dean stops the bleeding with a score but then Makol doesn't pressure his guy when he catches it to allow an easy basket, then doesn't even attempt to help in giving up another layup.
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
I mean oscar has to land a 5th year grad transfer in the offseason right?
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Our bigs are something. Stockard misses a jumper, then on the other side gets lost on a screen and roll then gets dunked on, comes down and turns the ball over then comes out. Our guy Mawein comes out and immediately gets a rebound taken right out of his hands again and gives up a basket. Dean stops the bleeding with a score but then Makol doesn't pressure his guy when he catches it to allow an easy basket, then doesn't even attempt to help in giving up another layup.
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
I mean oscar has to land a 5th year grad transfer in the offseason right?
He better. These guys won't improve to help the team match up with what the expectations will be.
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Guy knows how to plant a screen
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The power
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Maiwen a whack Maiwen a whack
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Off to a great start
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Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.
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Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.
That layup where he got fouled
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He is in peak form tonight
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Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.
That layup where he got fouled
Was he really fouled on the play? Looked kinda iffy.
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Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.
That layup where he got fouled
Was he really fouled on the play? Looked kinda iffy.
Yeah I don't think he was fouled but it was so far off target I think the refs assumed he must have been.
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There have been several games, like this one, where oscar sits him for long stretches without foul trouble. Despite this oscar starts him ever-y-time.
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This guy sucks
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The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
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The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
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Worst I’ve ever seen.
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What's a word for something that's greater than a liability?
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Called for traveling while dribbling. Impressive.
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The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
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our big men tonight are something else. :sdeek:
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Not Mak's best effort. Somehow the slavic on tcu is worse
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The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
I thought Dino Gaudio was doing the game
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Big time dunk :love:
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The dribble drive from top of the key slam dunk is about as maiwen as it gets
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What's a word for something that's greater than a liability?
point shaving
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What's a word for something that's greater than a liability?
point shaving
image shaving :frown:
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Not Mak's best effort. Somehow the slavic on tcu is worse
Well Vlad eventually showed up
The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
I thought Dino Gaudio was doing the game
Prolly so
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To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein
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To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein
Really? I missed Stokes' two travels, pitiful attempt at a dunk and a pass that was lazy beyond description and ended up costing us the game. Please show me what anyone on our team did worse than that (you can exclude the HC only because he didn't wear a uniform).
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Body of work though. Mak was his usual, get a couple of buckets, get abused on defense, give no effort rebounding usual self, with the notable exception of the aforementioned stretch between the 16 under and 12 under timeouts in the second half that led to Gaudio trashing him, that was seriously the worst four minute stretch of basketball I've ever seen.
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Mawein was our third most productive player by a wide margin tonight, pal
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stokes was worse, for sure.
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I mean,
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/968698916039360512?s=19
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Kamau is the weakest link on this team
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I didn't know he was egyptian.
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Mawein was our third most productive player by a wide margin tonight, pal
No argument from me. This fact is perhaps the saddest thing I've heard in a decade.
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Kam has been bad since he came back but he is never as lazy as Mawien and Mawien is literally expected to do absolutely nothing at all and still sucks worse than anyone. I honestly probably wouldn't mind Mawien if he wasn't the laziest player I've ever seen in all of division 1, but that makes anything he does poorly seem even worse.
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well tcu clearly decided that if kstate wanted to dump the ball to a big off the screen then they were welcome to do so. that doesn't explain why we fed the post (other than that they were happy to let kstate post a guy 6 feet from the basket 1 on 1, as long as that guy was a 5).
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Mawein was working his ass off on defense in the post. He got lost on a couple ball screens like all dumbasd centers do. Stop being racist, michicat.
I just don't see Mawein as a significant problem, and I think he'll learn to finish stronger. He's a sophomore.
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Mawein was working his ass off on defense in the post. He got lost on a couple ball screens like all dumbasd centers do. Stop being racist, michicat.
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The announcers were even raving about his post defense. He basically held that east german to no FG
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I tried to be agreeable with FSD but this is a bridge too far, sorry.
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I only watched from the under 15 to 12:36.
His defensive possessions were:
-terrible position (way too high) on the post up, forcing a double from wade, before an alley oop right over him flat footed
- a possession where he didn't challenge the ball handler on a ball screen who passed to an open 3
-flat footed on another ball screen, badly beat to rebounding possession but he lowers his shoulder into the guy
-(terrible miss on offense)
-loafing to terrible flat-footed defense on the first ball screen, then terrible flat-footed defense on the second ball screen
:lol:
oh I kept it running and then he traveled on a post up
:lol:
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and the next possession he stood flat footed as his man got an o-board and then another oboard and then another oboard
:lol:
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He walked again right after that
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He walked again right after that
:lol:
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I wish someone would make a highlight reel of his blunders/lazy plays
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We don't have enough server capacity on this blog.
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I didn't know he was egyptian.
He's Sudanese, grew up in Egypt because his dad was an ambassador.
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I didn't know he was egyptian.
He's Sudanese, grew up in Egypt because his dad was an ambassador.
The announcers referred to him as egyptian at least twice during the game, and it seemed like something I’d have heard in the background during at least one of the prior 30-ish games.
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I've long said it, but as Mawein goes, so goes our team.
Makol Mawein is our Bellcow.
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Imagine how much worse he would look out there without a 1st team big 12 power forward out there with him drawing doubles and defensive attention.
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He was so bad last night, but oscar couldn't take him out, cause, um, everyone else behind him is , um,
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
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He was a top 150 recruit, Pipe.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
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He was a top 150 recruit, Pipe.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
That quite literally, means nothing
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Well if you're angle is to bitch about his recruiting it does. On paper most systems thought he'd be a performer. He's awful, I get it.
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To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein
Really? I missed Stokes' two travels, pitiful attempt at a dunk and a pass that was lazy beyond description and ended up costing us the game. Please show me what anyone on our team did worse than that (you can exclude the HC only because he didn't wear a uniform).
Really? Stokes pretty much gave us zero chance to win that game in the last 2 minutes. He had 1 travel and a carry to turn the ball over during the game. Did he even make a shot all night? Then drives to the rim to just drop the ball to no one. Stokes was pitiful.
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Makol is a nice dude. Had him in my euro history class last semester
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Makol is a nice dude. Had him in my euro history class last semester
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that's pretty cool, greg
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Makol is a nice dude. Had him in my euro history class last semester
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I think this is his problem as a big. :frown:
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He was so bad last night, but oscar couldn't take him out, cause, um, everyone else behind him is , um,
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
he recruits wings and guards well. just not bigs
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He was so bad last night, but oscar couldn't take him out, cause, um, everyone else behind him is , um,
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
I don't know, he might get fewer touches or be closely guarded in that scenario, therefore he wouldn't shoot. He's at his worst/most laughable offensively on like barely challenged layups.
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He was a top 150 recruit, Pipe.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
Well, that explains it. oscar should be recruiting top 100 players anyways.
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Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.
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Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.
Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
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Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.
Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
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We need to sit Kam's ass with the walk ons. Maybe he could really figure out what the hell is wrong sitting down on the other end of the bench.
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you ever thought about coaching greg?
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Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.
Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
:jerk:
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Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.
Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
:jerk:
FWIW, this was just for last night.
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and just offense?
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We need to sit Kam's ass with the walk ons. Maybe he could really figure out what the hell is wrong sitting down on the other end of the bench.
I am to the point that every time Kam enters a game I want to kick the TV. I know he is going to massively screw the pooch again and again and drag the team down with bad shots, bad drives, bad passes, and just awful decisions. Since he has come back the ball is not moving as well among the team and we are going much longer stretches where Wade doesn't even touch the ball.
Mawein at least makes some hustle plays and shows flashes of potential to provide at least a little bit of hope for him in regard to the future. For Stokes, I just don't see any sort of hope.
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I don't have room to talk, when a player plays bad for awhile, I'm all over that player when they suck. But if they play good game or play decent for a while, I keep my mouth quiet and am not negative toward them.
Brodz had 14+ points 15 of his previous 16 games. He didn't have a FG (only 4 FTs) until 2:00 left. If Maiwen is this walking laughing stock on defense, how did Brodz not have a typical double digit game. I don't sit there and key on 1 player for long periods of time (that's just not me), but I guess Dixon and his Tcu teammates are just idiots for not getting him involved against a sucky player.
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don't you guys remember the clipart basketball chain that Kam wears? the pic is around here somewhere.
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and just offense?
Yes, pretty much. Sneed kind of got abused by Williams at times.
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Nice game MM.. Stockard..III... you suck so many balls it's not funny.
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Still a tragically horrendous rebounder
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Very nice performance by the bellcow
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(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/important-celebration-gif.gif?w=360)
Still a tragically horrendous rebounder
It's like he's shocked when it falls into his hands. He almost lost one or two with no competition for the ball.
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His transition alley oop infuriated me because IMO it shows he could be decent if he tried
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His transition alley oop infuriated me because IMO it shows he could be decent if he tried
This. There are (rare) times that he makes a move that, if you were someone who never watched the cats, would lead you to think , "hey this guy is pretty good!". Then two minutes later he throws up a 2 foot airball.
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Its weird he doesn't dunk it more, because he clearly has enough ability to do so.
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Last 10 games, he's ave 3.7 Reb in 18 minutes. Whether it's pretty or not, that's not bad. Plus he has made 20 of last 24 FTs.
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Its weird he doesn't dunk it more, because he clearly has enough ability to do so.
I was more surprised that he was hustling than dunking
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Mawien was 5 for 7 today and made 4 free throws late in the second half when they were making a run. Not too many air balls.
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
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Most important thing is he coordinated and can move. First Oscar big recruit to do so. Looks like a promising find. To bad he couldn't be a backup. I miss Bullnuts.
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Last 10 games, he's ave 3.7 Reb in 18 minutes. Whether it's pretty or not, that's not bad. Plus he has made 20 of last 24 FTs.
Fakest stat in the history of stats. Here are the rebound totals in each of those 10 games
1
5
4
3
2
0
8
1
2
7
He had his best game as a cat today, happy for him, happy for us; but as Judge Judy said, "don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." You don't get to say he's averaging 3.7 RPG the last 10 as if it's a upward trajectory when he had 3 combined the previous 2 games. Even worse when that wasn't the worst two game stretch in the 10.
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Mawien was 5 for 7 today and made 4 free throws late in the second half when they were making a run. Not too many air balls.
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
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The only good big in the bunch fainted 4 minutes into the game
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Mawien was 5 for 7 today and made 4 free throws late in the second half when they were making a run. Not too many air balls.
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
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The only good big in the bunch fainted 4 minutes into the game
Matson scored 26 against Bamba when Baylor beat Texas a couple of weeks ago, 24 against TT in the next game and 23 against OU last week. Acuil still played 20 minutes tonight.
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Maston is good. Acuil is good. Mawein pwn3d them, just like he pwn3d Brod (next man up) 2x this year.
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"Mawien is the worst player on this team." GMAFB YOU GUYS
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Weird bump.
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His defense is so bad it hurts to watch
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MAK! :excited:
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His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
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His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
Yeah, hopefully he'll continue to grow. His issues are all attributed to being lazy and soft, he plays with intent, he's good. His defense down the stretch was second to none and his 5th was shite.
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that tip probably won us the game
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From conference laughing stock to tournament MVP?
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Trust in the Bellcow. He was our MVP today.
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We can beat KU without Doke if Makol plays like that again tomorrow
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that block
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His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
Yeah, hopefully he'll continue to grow. His issues are all attributed to being lazy and soft, he plays with intent, he's good. His defense down the stretch was second to none and his 5th was shite.
His biggest issue is staying out of foul trouble and he did that today. Needs a little stronger hands but getting better with that every game. Vlad was second team All Big 12 and Mawien whipped his ass today.
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If oscar can figure out how to get Kam and Cartier to coexist (no indication he can), then Cats could be pretty good next year. Mawein should be leaps and bounds better next year, and he's already pretty serviceable.
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His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
it's like he is Serge Ibaka's little brother that only plays because it helps him get girls
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He's got ability
Hoping he turns into a cross between JHR and DJamer
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If oscar can figure out how to get Kam and Cartier to coexist (no indication he can), then Cats could be pretty good next year. Mawein should be leaps and bounds better next year, and he's already pretty serviceable.
And stop dribbling in the post.
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At this point, I feel way more confident when he shoots than X or Kam. The streaky Sneed is not on a good streak. He's missed 18 of last 21 on 3pt. And all the sudden, he can't hit FTs either. Just 12 of his last 22
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MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
stud
and i say his name wrong- as in, Mawein Marain anyway great game for him and the cats
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk
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I think the 9 rebounds and 4 of 4 for free throws is also impressive
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Everybody should say it like my ween and then grab their junk
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I think the 9 rebounds and 4 of 4 for free throws is also impressive
He's 24 of last 28 on FTs. Believe he is our best rebounder (per 100 Poss), in the last 10 games
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The matchup between my ween (grabs junk) and gordon lightfoot tomorrow could be epic, one for the ages.
I just hope the egregiously incompetent assclowns they hire to referee these games don't foul them out
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I’m cautiously optimistic that my ween will dominate lightdoot
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I think the 9 rebounds and 4 of 4 for free throws is also impressive
Believe he is our best rebounder (per 100 Poss), in the last 10 games
I illustrated the flaw of this but you keep trotting it out there as if it's an accomplishment.
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Best rebounder per 100 IS NOT GOOD!!!!
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Best rebounder per 100 IS NOT GOOD!!!!
Best rebounder per 100 the last ten games when you have four games with 2 or less rebounds in that stretch is awful. All that indicates is that we are a completely embarrassing train wreck when it comes to rebounding the basketball.
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on the season, Mawien is closest to Wainwright in offensive and defensive rebounding percentage.
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Now playing the role of Claws. Makol Mawein! Also please welcome to the starting lineup Deathbite and Levi Stockard.
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AKA the team oscar Weber would have if not for a miracle falling into his lap.
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AKA the team oscar Weber would have if not for a miracle falling into his lap.
Weakest of the anti-oscar narratives so far. My goodness.
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Mak goes for 18 and 9 while leading us to the big upset tonight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv6WAIdctZg
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dude is knocking down long range 2’s now, call off the transfer big we got ourselves a center
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It's amazing how lazy and dumb he's been this year. He is really good on offense if he tries. He has gone from the worst player in KSU history to the pleasure with the most bafflingly terrible stretch in KSU history. I almost think this makes his prior performance more infuriating.
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i didn't realize how much dean and brown were limiting his game.
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Myween is going to be the next Curtis Kelly
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It's amazing how lazy and dumb he's been this year. He is really good on offense if he tries. He has gone from the worst player in KSU history to the pleasure with the most bafflingly terrible stretch in KSU history. I almost think this makes his prior performance more infuriating.
Oscar's school of players self coaching themselves is not a good fit for Mawien. Probably getting good coaching from Kornboy.
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:ck:
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i didn't realize how much dean and brown were limiting his game.
So true
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i didn't realize how much dean and brown were limiting his game.
rofl
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Myween
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Woot!
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=prime shaq
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LOL @ the Mak naysayers
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Hope he gets 30
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LOL @ the Mak naysayers
if we play another 4 guard team with a mitch lightfoot type center we will be shitting in high cotton
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
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Holy crap! This is fantastic for next year!
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
I'm rough ridin' here and think he has played the worst basketball relative to his ability that I've ever seen in my life. The fact that he's looked so terrible all year is outrageous.
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He needs to rebound much better.
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
I'm rough ridin' here and think he has played the worst basketball relative to his ability that I've ever seen in my life. The fact that he's looked so terrible all year is outrageous.
YOU WILL APOLOGIZE OR I WILL SPANK YOUR BUTT AND SEND YOU TO YOUR BEDROOM
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
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Juco player who has been learning how to play Webers defense and fit into the offense. Biggest problem has been early fouls but slowly getting over that. Can score and plays great defense. Surprised all of our fans do not appreciate having him on out team.
Also, 29 on 13 for 19 tonight.
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
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Dudes he played against Mitch Lightfoot. Let’s just pump the breaks a bit. J
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Dudes he played against Mitch Lightfoot. Let’s just pump the breaks a bit. J
Lightfoot plays for TCU too :confused:
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
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Juco player who has been learning how to play Webers defense and fit into the offense. Biggest problem has been early fouls but slowly getting over that. Can score and plays great defense. Surprised all of our fans do not appreciate having him on out team.
Also, 29 on 13 for 19 tonight.
Hot take from Mak’s uncle
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
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mir/chigancat has said all along he'd be alright if he tried...
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
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you could also say with oscar's guidance makol went from a scrub to a legit big 12 center.
but really we don't know crap about what goes on behind the scenes.
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
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He's the worst big in the history of kstate bball
- michicat and mir
Mak scores 29 against ku, 16 the game before, etc.
I told you he was awful bc [cites anecdotal stat]. I'm not wrong! [Sucks thumb and throws self on floor]
- michicat and mir
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
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He's the worst big in the history of kstate bball
- michicat and mir
Mak scores 29 against ku, 16 the game before, etc.
I told you he was awful bc [cites anecdotal stat]. I'm not wrong! [Sucks thumb and throws self on floor]
- michicat and mir
He's definitely not the worst big in the history of the program, if I said that I was wrong.
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
He had almost half our points tonight on 13-19 shooting. He hasn’t been a rebounding machine all year. You portrayed him as an all around garbage player, he’s not. Why does he need big rebounding numbers if he’s scoring almost half the points?
Again I think this just comes back to oscar. With Barry and Dean out shows how much of a waste offensively he’s been this year from lack of coaching.
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
oscar doesn’t know how to manage the talent he has outside of one or two players
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Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
He had almost half our points tonight on 13-19 shooting. He hasn’t been a rebounding machine all year. You portrayed him as an all around garbage player, he’s not. Why does he need big rebounding numbers if he’s scoring almost half the points?
Again I think this just comes back to oscar. With Barry and Dean out shows how much of a waste offensively he’s been this year from lack of coaching.
No, I haven't, not even close. I'm done with this because either you can't read or you're drunk. I can't argue with you if you don't even know what my critiques were. This isn't the issue rusty had with him either.
Also you keep hammering whatever you're saying about oscar but none of us understand what the hell you're taking about.
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So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?
oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
oscar doesn’t know how to manage the talent he has outside of one or two players
My God.
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Literally has a 17 assist NBA game
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Literally has a 17 assist NBA game
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Literally has a 17 assist NBA game
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
Well technically all you’ve proven to have is gas
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Literally has a 17 assist NBA game
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
Well technically all you’ve proven to have is gas money
FYP
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:D
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Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
3 or his last 9 games he had less than 3 assists, worst guard in Bulls history
-michicat
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Sorry for allowing my mocking hyperbole to run astray!
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Fucktards
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Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.
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Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.
Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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MIR and michicat, you go sit in timeout until you are ready to apologize to Mak. :nono:
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Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.
Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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Like 148 to be fair. Same as that shitty skinny big we got from Florida that sucked under Frank. I honestly couldn't name him if my life depended on it.
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Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.
Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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Like 148 to be fair. Same as that shitty skinny big we got from Florida that sucked under Frank. I honestly couldn't name him if my life depended on it.
Diaz or Dias. Wasn't so shitty and had a pretty good career at one of Florida Central, International, Whatever schools once he left.
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Confidence rising then!
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Maybe this board PI’d oscar into getting rid of the play hard chart and Mawein’s lazy play this year is actually our fault.
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I sure would like to have a good rebounder to in the rotation of Mawien, Stockard and Wade. Thrice would be a good addition but would mean purging Sallah or Love.
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Stockard has been playing better lately too.
#Kornbred #Kornfed
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yea korn is doing some good work, i really like him.
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MIR and michicat, you go sit in timeout until you are ready to apologize to Mak. :nono:
Do you read or just post?
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Mawien and Dean were seat buddies on the plane and that makes me very happy guys. We should have just called their row GOAT row.
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His hands :blindfold:
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dat rim protection tho
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dat rim protection tho
That 3 from the top of the key in rhythm tho too
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we need him so bad. after him the bigs are worse than me if I was 6' 10". we have nothing. NOTHING.
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yea sd im not certain if it was stockard but a non my ween (grabs junk) big missed an uncontested dunk shot and i nearly died
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yea sd im not certain if it was stockard but a non my ween (grabs junk) big missed an uncontested dunk shot and i nearly died
It was Stockard - he complimented the missed dunk with terrible defense too
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he was the worst guys, I almost died from it
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i don't think kstate's bigs are that bad. promising young bigs, imo.
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i don't think kstate's bigs are that bad. promising young bigs, imo.
you're lying. which ones and why?
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i don't think kstate's bigs are that bad. promising young bigs, imo.
you're lying. which ones and why?
i can't tell them apart. they all seem pretty good for freshmen.
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We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even care
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We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even care
Mawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
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We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even care
Mawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
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We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even care
Mawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
His defense was pretty good - miles better than Stockard, but man that offense last night, yuck. If he could catch the ball, he could have led the team in points.
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Dribbling is not something he's good at either. Although against KU's soft inside D, he got away with it.
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We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even care
Mawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
His defense was pretty good - miles better than Stockard, but man that offense last night, yuck. If he could catch the ball, he could have led the team in points.
Agree. My frustration is that he did not work hard on the offensive side of the ball at all. He didn't even attempt to post hard last night and I'm guessing it's because of that 3 he hit early.
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Creighton doubled him everytime he caught the ball in the paint. He didn't handle that too well.
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Creighton doubled him everytime he caught the ball in the paint. He didn't handle that too well.
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That was a pretty silly move by McNeck imo.
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That redic lob mcguirl put into him over the fronting defender must have completely mind mumped him because he crap the bed once it was in his hands
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Creighton doubled him everytime he caught the ball in the paint. He didn't handle that too well.
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That was a pretty silly move by McNeck imo.
McNeck prepared for Dean and just stuck with the game plan #facecoachedoff
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
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stokes played very good D I thought...Creighton's frontcourt struggles I blame on their "throw numerous alley-oops to the guy who may not be able to dunk" offensive gameplan
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After the KU game, other teams know they can't just ignore him. Also he can shoot from outside. He was a 4 star just like Claws and Sneed. He thrives off of Wade's assists.
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
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Sometimes mak is really lazy on defense but sometimes he is pretty good for his size
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I can't recall ever seeing a basketball player, on any team, on any level, who has such a wide and obvious disparity of how he looks on the court simply based on effort. I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
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I can't recall ever seeing a basketball player, on any team, on any level, who has such a wide and obvious disparity of how he looks on the court simply based on effort. I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
The dude is definitely timid. He just needs to get into the zone. Dean needs to coach him up tomorrow and tell him how to come out of his shell
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The double/triple teaming spooked him. Bellcow will be back in form tonight.
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I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
I don't think this is even debatable.
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I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
I don't think this is even debatable.
His interview after the Big 12 tournament game was really awkward. I'd say the issues is confidence over effort.
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Claws to a lesser extent last year suffered from confidence in his abilities so I think there is definitely hope that My Ween can blossom into a killer too.
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
So you took posts from a couple of weeks ago to indict "this board" about Friday night? Being good on defense the last game doesn't erase what he did, actually didn't do, during past games. We're all glad he's improving, hopefully he can start to show consistent effort.
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Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
We have a quote function. Why not use it in place of Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
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Mawein off the dribble
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:lol:
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I telepathically posted a :lol: in this thread as that ball came down to the ground.
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That was a nasty dunk.
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I think he’s been slow playing all year to finally bust a huge nut in Kentucky’s ass and put himself on the map
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Good God.
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Quite clearly after the first 10 minutes we had the return of Bad Mak, but I don't want to talk about that. Stockard made Bad Mak look like Anthony Davis, goodness it was bad. I'm not sure what took oscar so long to put Wainwright in at the 5 but once he figured it out we were able to pull away.
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He's getting better at defense, but dear god he is atrocious at receiving passes down on the block, it's like he is incapable of boxing out and then moving to the ball when it's just a bit off a good pass. At least 3 times that happened. He holds his position like if he leaves it he will be trucked over.
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
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and also was LOL bad at catching passes
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
I'll agree with that, I was thinking more of his rim protecting, he actually kinda plays that will zeal, which is refreshing.
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
yeah, when the rican hit that three and they showed the replay mak just shrugged his shoulders as maura shot. i lol'ed pretty good at that one
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
The lineup with wainright was far and away our best one. The subbing of Mak on offense was lol because the guards simply refused to pass him the ball down the stretch.
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He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
The lineup with wainright was far and away our best one. The subbing of Mak on offense was lol because the guards simply refused to pass him the ball down the stretch.
well to be fair every time they tried after the first 10 minutes it was an automatic turnover, either because of a bad pass, bad catch, or double.
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there were some brutal entry passes attempted last night
all in all, the team really wasn’t mentally focused
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never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
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never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
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Mawien 11 points on 4 for 7 from the field. 0 turnovers 6 rebounds and two blocks. Out of position on one pick and roll. The other break down was a double screen and Diarras man got free rolling to the goal.
Didn't catch entry passes from our guards that were thrown three feet away from him. Hard to understand why he didn't get charged for the turnovers on those entry passes.
Hope those complaining about Mawien are scouting replacements.
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never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
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My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
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never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
My first thought was to Mike telling Andre Gilbert "post passes are a bitch" after he literally threw the Oregon game away.
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My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
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My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
Maybe Love lll gets some time on the floor considering their size like he was used against Texas and Baylor.
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LOL at Mawien being one of the best ball screen defenders in the country
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Over the past year or so, I've grown to dislike lowery more than oscar.
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My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
I've praised him for the same thing, that doesn't mean that he didn't have two simply awful switches last night that led to 5 late points in a tight game.
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He had a block or two when UMBC could have taken the lead that may have saved the game. He's become a much better rim protector than I ever imagined.
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On the Mak train til the day I fricking die guys.
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He had a block or two when UMBC could have taken the lead that may have saved the game. He's become a much better rim protector than I ever imagined.
Love clutch Mak blocks. Probably one of my favorite things in life right now.
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he had a rough game. i am still incredibly strong for him. he's going to be a dominant player for us someday. hopefully he turns it on against kentucky.
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Mawien is the kind of player who would like never play for huggs for two seasons because of laziness and end up pretty ok. With oscar he'll probably always be lazy.
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Also I enjoy laughing at his awful plays
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I am very hopeful about Mak. He shows enthusiasm on defense enough to warrant hope that other parts improve. His rebounding has gotten better and that transition drop step dunk could've gone wrong so many ways I can't even describe but he threw it down with authority.
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There is no doubt Mawiens ball screen defense is extremely good and a big part of why this team has become so good on defense. I was surprised our help defense did not regress in the three games without Claws but it does suffer when Mawien is subbed out. Some posters may disagree.
We are in the sweet 16 because of our defense. Just held a team to 43 points.
Lets hope Mawien stays out of foul trouble against Kentucky.
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we are quite a bit better with mawien than without. stockard is always out of place and 1/2 step behind. really going to need mawien against Kentucky.
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this team would be amaze with curtis kelly
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Don't know why people are bitching about Mawein. Want to complain? Lets talk about Stockard and how he didn't even show up to get on the plane. About Love? Is he even on the team?
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Regarding Mawiens offense. He is so bad the other team has had to double him the last two games. KU tried later in the tournament game but screwed up their doubles and he went for 29. Surprising they put such a poor player on All Big 12 tournament first team. Doesn't really matter, we'll have to live with him against Kentucky.
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I am glad that someone on this board is finally willing to put these "critics" in their place.
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Don't know why people are bitching about Mawein. Want to complain? Lets talk about Stockard and how he didn't even show up to get on the plane. About Love? Is he even on the team?
No one is really bitching, just observing/laughing. he's an incredible athlete/body but extremely lazy at times and makes some incredibly laughable plays but would still play 30 minutes/game if no foul trouble.
I mean you ever wonder why folks are talking about Stokes's shooting instead of getting mad at Brian Patrick?
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Mawein is the crap.
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this team would be amaze with curtis kelly
I think even JO puts it into the elite tier as well
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It sure is a fascinating coincidence that @cat97 signed up for gE the same day that Makol Mawien committed to Kansas State.
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I mean, he generally has pretty good basketball thoughts, but they are heavily focused on Mawien and seen through the rosiest colored glasses in existence.
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:surprised:
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pretty great detective work 8man
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:adios: Momwien!
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It sure is a fascinating coincidence that @cat97 signed up for gE the same day that Makol Mawien committed to Kansas State.
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I mean, he generally has pretty good basketball thoughts, but they are heavily focused on Mawien and seen through the rosiest colored glasses in existence.
Unfortunately Mawein was born in 96 otherwise I'd say this is case closed
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well well well
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we aren't quite at Grant Gregory brother levels yet, but we're close
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Need a mod to check posting IP to see if they were coming from Charlotte.
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I, for one, don't want @cat27 to leave. I just want transparency.
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Folks, nothing to see here. Just a great Kansas State Basketball super fan that can see greatness in Makol Mawein!*
*This post has been sponsored by the South Sudan Tourism Ministry, SEE SUDAN SOUTH OF THE BORDER
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I just want any Mawien family members on here to know that I tried to deflect blame to other players.
Just wanted to point that out
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About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
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About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
why?
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About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
why?
No reason, I temporarily confused him with Sallah. Love has only played 67 minutes all season, actually more than I thought.
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Looks like Wade may be his backup.
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He’s so close but yet so far away
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What a second half for our boy
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the small lineup is more fun.
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the small lineup is more fun.
And effective!
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^u ever see a better 0/0/5 performance? no.
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0/0/2/5
He had two blocks.
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I expected him to have more than one turnover but his shots generally feel like turnovers so it threw my gut off.
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The running fadeaway lefty hook!
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Tomorrow will be his game!
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Tomorrow will be his game!
I think this is actually a pretty good call. He should feast against a much smaller team than Kentucky.
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2 points from the 5 position last night...
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Ball screen defense.
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Ball screen defense.
:D
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Mawein is fine. He's just playing too many minutes against more talented players. He should be a big off the bench when the other team's bigs are on the bench.
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Great ball screen defense on that four point play
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What a bad basketball player, probably a good person though, @cat97
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he's pretty coordinated.
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Damnit Mak, are you kidding me? Saved the most uninspiring for last, that was tragic.
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The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
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The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
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The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazing
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Watching him trot up & down the floor like it was a pick up game for possession after possession in the elite 8 was maddening
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The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazing
It wasn't him, but the worst post defense was helping on a guard leaping out of bounds, who then threw back to an uncovered center for 2 plus 1. Just head-shake stupid.
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Watching him trot up & down the floor like it was a pick up game for possession after possession in the elite 8 was maddening
He did it all year, but yes.
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The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazing
It wasn't him, but the worst post defense was helping on a guard leaping out of bounds, who then threw back to an uncovered center for 2 plus 1. Just head-shake stupid.
Yes I mentioned this in another thread. oscar loves him some dribble penetration help.
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The kid just looks soft.... Don;t know if he can be coached up or not....looks timid down low...
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His tourney performance speaks to how truly shitting a defender Lightfoot is.
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He should have owned Mongo underneath the basket tonight...
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He should have owned Mongo underneath the basket tonight...
Why? That kid is about a hundred times better.
Someone earlier in this thread said it best, Mak really should be playing a Stockard or James Love role on this team.
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How bad is Stockard and Love tho?
Mawien is 100 times the player those dudes are. Did you see Love try and play the game of basketball tonight? Totally amazingly awful
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I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.
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I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.
especially love i thought...stockard was super apathetic too...that last and-1 he gave up, sweet jesus
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I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.
especially love i thought...stockard was super apathetic too...that last and-1 he gave up, sweet jesus
That was a shitty no contact foul.
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Mawien played his worst game in a long time.
first half we let post entries and then no help defense for the post. Impossible to stop a center with post moves from scoring if he receives the ball in the block and has time to work. Still the right strategy vs giving up threes. Second half we fronted Mongo and had better success stopping him.
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I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.
Yes, and super gross that he actually has pretty good post moves. His lack of effort is maddening. Hopefully Jamar and other work his ass out in scrimmages or whatever this summer if that's a thing that happens.
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I'm holding out hope that he just has the lowest bbiq OAT and just needs time and muscle memory to set in. Then he will be solid.
Like the laziness isn't a lack of effort thing, it's a I'm lost and don't know what to do thing.
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If he was white, nobody would think he's lazy.
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I'm holding out hope that he just has the lowest bbiq OAT and just needs time and muscle memory to set in. Then he will be solid.
Like the laziness isn't a lack of effort thing, it's a I'm lost and don't know what to do thing.
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No I think it's lack of effort most of the time
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If he was white, nobody would think he's lazy.
lol
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Get 'em!
https://twitter.com/JonErskine/status/977993467832950784?s=19
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Never has played D1 basketball before, lol, there's a reason for that. He graduated from high school three years ago, he wasn't on a Mormon mission.
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he was a straight redshirt at Utah, no?
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Yes, he was. Which means he was a project way back then and now people are still hoping for development. How many top 150 big men are red shirted, at Utah no less. KU didn't red shirt De Sousa who came halfway through the season and has played basketball for like 20 minutes.
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How many top 150 big men are red shirted.
gotta be someone good enough to be worth keeping a 'ship unproductive for a year but not good enough that he might leave before exhausting eligibility. plus he's got to be amenable.
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Sousa is a five star top 30 player who will be 20 in the fall.
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
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Utah had a 7 ft player (Poetl) that year who was second team All American and currently playing for Toronto.
and a 6ft 9 player who averaged 11 and 6 rebounds.
They went to the second round of the tournament that year.
Mawien weighed 20 lbs less than he does now. Redshirting made sense for Utah if you believe in red shirting basketball players.
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
Does Hurt count as a big?
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
He is big but not necessarily a "big"
still has a very limited post set and depends on face up for the majority of his looks. I am not sure who works with "bigs" but post development has been minimal.
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Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
Does Hurt count as a big?
Yes! I've wasn't run off, not developed either. Two years of service to the cats!
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1045025500152954882?s=19
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25 pounds of muscle in 6 months? must be on the 1997 ksu football training plan (roids) :lynchmob:
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25 pounds of muscle in 6 months? must be on the 1997 ksu football training plan (roids) :lynchmob:
i hope he's addicted to roids
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hope they all are. austin trice put on 40 pounds since he got here :surprised:
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hope they all are. austin trice put on 40 pounds since he got here :surprised:
What! Where did you see this?
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https://youtu.be/f2qj8yU7Cbs?t=1m53s
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25 pounds of muscle in 6 months? must be on the 1997 ksu football training plan (roids) :lynchmob:
Can roids avoid broken feet?
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Remember when Mawein abused Lightfoot in the Big 12 tournament?
I'm a fan.......his upside is Curtis Kelly.
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25 pounds of muscle added to the Mantool.
Plus scrimmages against Claws, Meatfart, and Mr. Gravy Sneed.
He was getting much better at the end of year.
I see him subbing for Wade a lot, and Trice taking the low post.
Mawein is a good 3 point shooter. Can't dribble though.
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The Bellcow has looked pretty good today!
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The Bellcow has looked pretty good today!
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Makol is licking his lips right now. He's going to be feasting inside against the squawks.
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Bellcow hasn't been playing well his last few times out. Methinks that a game against uk will be just what he needs to get on the right track.
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Mak is the most underrated player on this team.
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If he manages to not foul out and play 20+ minutes I’ll consider it a success
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he might be the softest big we've ever had. His handles are really sad. :frown:
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Mak is much, much better this year
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He handles the ball very poorly, but he's getting more aggressive above the rim and has a decent inside game for O and D (best since Gipson anyway) but watch out once he perfects that baby hook. Idk, he strikes me as high IQ and effort, which will just continue to pay dividends. The one thing that drives me nuts, and contradicts what I just wrote, is his inability to sense he's outpositioned inside on an offensive rebound. He doesn't use a dribble, which I honestly get, but doesn't look to pivot or pass either. Just jumps straight up under the basket into two well-positioned defenders praying for a foul. Unless refs are playing tight, why not kick out?
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The best part of Mak is his defense, but I'm saying he's going to score double digits tonight...
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I like him except when he drops the ball or gets into early foul troubs.
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If Mak has less than 2 fouls at the under 16 I'll eat my right show on live television.
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FREE MAWEIN
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The failure to use Trice to soak up the inevitable fouls early will come back to haunt us.
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Hate the idea of saving players for later. Take the chance that he won't get in foul trouble. On average more minutes will be played which is the important thing.
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If he manages to not foul out and play 20+ minutes I’ll consider it a success
Does not look promising
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Holy crap, that three possession stretch just before the under 8 when he matched up against Lawson when Dean was out should be put on a video to yakety sax. I swear to god I wouldn't have looked worse.
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I'm liking Stockyard more and more.
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Blame the softass refs. They knew they had to keep him down to make it more of a game.
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get it together mak!
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mak is one of the worst offensive bigs i have ever seen. AND he plays below the rim.
has 75 % of his shots blocked which is hard to do when you are 6'10"
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Soft AF, but he plays decent D I guess.
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Soft AF, but he plays decent D I guess.
Nah, not that either. We really should be starting Carti with Dean at the 5. Mak can't be trusted with more than 12 minutes or so.
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5 tos is :facepalm:
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The Bellcow will be fine, ok?
Need him on Tuesday against UT.
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He’s just so bad. Maybe the worst court awareness in all the plaines states.
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he's kind of like freshman/sophmore Deathbite in how i feel watching him play. but a nice second half.
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Played “above” the rim tonight
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Real rough ridin' uneven tonight. He HAS to rebound better though. Those skinny ass UT guys kept ripping the ball from him, it's frustrating.
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Wonder if he needs better guys to scrimmage against, then again could all be in his head. He can be a real presence on the court at times.
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Yeah, I bet he's like Shaq in practice against our other bigs, probably dunking and tossing their crap all over the gym all the time.
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Mak was 5 for 7 last night and stopped most of the UT lobs to their big men. 11 points compared to 9 for Jaxson Hayes in similar minutes. Big part of the win.
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Yes, but he lacks consistency. maybe that will come
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Good job by Bellcow last night. Great stuff from him there.
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Also pretty weak defense and godawful rebounding.
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Good scoring though
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Mak was 5 for 7 last night and stopped most of the UT lobs to their big men. 11 points compared to 9 for Jaxson Hayes in similar minutes. Big part of the win.
Did you watch the game or just read the box score?
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Real good stuff from Mak lastnight. We're all really proud of him.
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:flush:
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He is so rough ridin' terrible. Good god.
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He either quit today or he was really tired.
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Can’t believe how slow and non explosive he was yesterday. Why did Weber constantly have him hedge out so far only to be slow slow to get back to his guy to get burned. Also how many times can he get blocked.
Just a reminder folks he will be our best big man next year :buh-bye:
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He is so rough ridin' terrible. Good god.
This. Such a soft big man.
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Can’t believe how slow and non explosive he was yesterday. Why did Weber constantly have him hedge out so far only to be slow slow to get back to his guy to get burned. Also how many times can he get blocked.
Just a reminder folks he will be our best big man next year :buh-bye:
He played the ball screens well, really the only thing he did consistently well.
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He either quit today or he was really tired.
He looked gassed to me.
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He either quit today or he was really tired.
He looked gassed to me.
Maybe he has been sick? :dunno:
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The team was playing too fast yesterday....just what Iowa State wanted. Mawein wasn't the only one who looked gassed.
Our guys are great at putting out crazy effort on defense, and then taking it slow on offense. I think that is why we can retain such high defensive efficiencies.
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ISU had the whole week off before the game.
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Actually not so good at flushing it
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How does Korn still have a job?
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He's good at two hand dunking.
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It wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear he is averaging two two hand dunks per game.
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:lol:
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Well, crap.
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He's good at two hand dunking.
About that...
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Good God lol
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LEAVE HIM IN MORGANTOWN
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Holy mother of God
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I feel like I just got punched in my ween after that.
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:facepalm:
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He loves cocking it back behind his head for a dramatic flush.
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I would legit watch a dunk contest between our bigs.
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Mawein has had a rough past couple of games. Someone needs to hypnotize him so he thinks he is playing in the Sprint Center every time he touches a basketball.
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L-O-rough ridin'-L
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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It’s more funny than sad at this point
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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DUDE
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Haw
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ha
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oscar just sexually assaulted him.
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I’m dead serious, cut his ass
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Is this real?
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SportsCenter baby!
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oscar after the ISU game: alright Dean you think you can come back for KU after a week’s rest?
oscar 5 minutes into practice with Myween & co.: Dean take that rough ridin' boot off
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Mawein needs to take notes from this guy, but apply to basketball:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/2Faz0RHyja9ceeNJC/giphy.gif)
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@_33 you need to make the windmill dunk, but with makol murdering the game of basketball.
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Or maybe a new highstepper gif but with Mawein missing dunks all over the place.
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depressing thing is he's like 40 times better than any of his backups
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Yeah, next year could be really concerning. Wonder who will transfer out? Any decent grad transfer bigs out there?
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Listen, shut up about the missed dunks, OK? They happened. It's FINE.
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Does Mawien have mono? Ever since the A&M game it has appeared he has no legs at all.
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leave mawein alone :frown:
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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i would love to have another makol mawein over stockard/shadd/love combined
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The missed dunks are the least of my concerns with this dude.
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The missed dunks are the least of my concerns with this dude.
Yeah, he was over 90% on two hand dunk makes before yesterday. Just had an off night.
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
Managed to play 16 minutes too!
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How does Korn still have a job?
This was my thought watching the game. The combo of Mak, Stockard, Love, Schadd, Trice - literally none of them have improved since they've been here. I'm not even mad, it;s amazing.
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Mak improved down the stretch last year, kinda, I guess. Addition by subtraction.
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Working theory of mine: remember that rat that controlled that ginger chef by pulling his hair in that Disney movie? I think Mawein has a brain parasite that pulls on his synapses right at the last second before he's about to do something normal, and he just rough ridin' freaks out and punts the ball out into the crowd or some crap.
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I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
I hate the crap out of Dax Jones
He was actually a really good guy when I knew him. Of course we were just kids and he was a 12 year old trapped in a 24 year old's body. He took a lot of crap and kept his head up. Very nice... He just didn't have the basketball ability everyone wanted out of that body.
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Maybe our strength coach should be fired for allowing Mawein to put on 20lbs of muscle in the offseason, it affected his vertical. Also may have given him the mind set of a body builder...."I must kill this last rep"....and he wants to kill the rim?
Why do you guys want to blame Korn for our bigs? What's he supposed to do with non-DI players? :buh-bye: :shakesfist: :sdeek: :Yuck: :flush: :dunno: :bang: :confused: :facepalm: :runaway: :jerk: :cry: :bawl: :angry:
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Yeah, recruit better.
Mak is fine, he just needs to quick picking up 2 fouls immediately after tip off.
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What fun read the next morning! :lol:
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the staff raves about Denim's BBIQ. and quite frankly I don't see what their seeing.
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I wonder what the deal with Yor Anei was.
He could play for us and would be our second best big guy. I don't think we recruited him at all. Maybe he just wasn't interested.
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the staff raves about Denim's BBIQ. and quite frankly I don't see what their seeing.
Is BBIQ code for fouling constantly? Because he is very impressive in that category.
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I wonder what the deal with Yor Anei was.
He could play for us and would be our second best big guy. I don't think we recruited him at all. Maybe he just wasn't interested.
i was just thinking the same thing the other week when i was watching him play. pretty remarkable how he's able to play at a high level with only 3 fingers on one hand.
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the staff raves about Denim's BBIQ. and quite frankly I don't see what their seeing.
Is BBIQ code for fouling constantly? Because he is very impressive in that category.
must be. that and missing easy crap around the rim.
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Last time I checked the assistant responsible for developing the bigs also should be able to recruit good bigs....
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i remember watching an episode of KORN'S KORNER featuring BRAD KORN last summer- it may have been season 2, episode 65 or 66, doesn't matter, anyway, the host and BRAD KORN were talking about how big men in cbb rely on each other to get better and if our stable is full of really bad big men, then none of them will get better because they all keep reinforcing each other's shitty play. but here's the stinger- BRAD KORN then laughed a ton and said that the stable would be burned down and a new stable would be built in its place, wtf did he mean? I don't know. the host cut to commercial really quickly and when they came back from break they went right into the "KORNER MARKET RECIPE featuring BRAD KORN" segment of the show, which everyone loves because BRAD KORN is such a great home cook, but then they never discussed burning down the stable again, hashtag confused. :confused: :confused:
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who was the host in Season 2? Matt Walters?
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BRAD KORN has been both the host and the weekly guest starting in season 1, episode 2, when he fired the show’s host while on-air. they’ve since gone back and erased any evidence that episode 1 ever existed. hashtag conspiracies
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hopefully they put it on netflix. i'm waaaay behind
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You could always borrow the DVD box sets from clams and binge watch those.
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ya that’s not happening
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hmmmmmmmm...i'm going to contact my buddy the station manager at KTWU-11 (gary) to see if I can find the LOST TAPE of S1E1 KORN'S KORNER.
i know he's got it. he's a hoarder if you've ever seen one.
if you don't hear from me for awhile, assume the worst.
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Q & A WITH SALUKI FORWARD BRAD KORN
What made you decide to come to SIU?
"SIU was my second choice. ISU (Illinois State) took my scholarship away. I was originally going there, but then I called here and said I was coming."
What do you plan on doing after graduating?
"Getting a job in pharmaceutical sales and seeing what happens there."
https://siusalukis.com/news/2004/3/11/q_amp_a_with_saluki_forward_brad_korn.aspx
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[Korn dialing phone]
Yeah, it's Brad. I'm coming.
[Korn listening]
No, they took my scholarship away.
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Korn needs to go. This has to be upgraded if we want any sort of good big. It's obvious he is not recruiting or developing the level of big men that are needed.
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Did Wake Forest fire Danny Manning yet? Maybe oscar could hire him as DOBO (Director of Big-Man Operations).
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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Right, think about that, it's absurd. You guys are using the fact that he had 6 points, 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 assist in 15 minutes as "one of his better games." What the eff man? Is this real life?
Meanwhile, WVU's starting center, making his 5th damn start, had 11 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 block in 33 minutes. Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!
It's not his fault, he shouldn't be a starting center for a good power 5 program. He'd be a very good reserve.
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Nobody said he should be a D-1 starting center. But he is one. That's certainly an outstanding stat line for WVU's center. :dunno:
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!
Are you asking when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? Or the last time he played 33 minutes with one foul?
He played 35 minutes against Texas a little over a week ago. :dunno:
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Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
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Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
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What a terrible take
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Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
I think you may be confused. We all love The Bellcow.
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Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
I think you may be confused. We all love The Bellcow.
:dubious: :don'tcare:
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We tolerate him, I’d jettison his for basically every other big 12 teams 5 in a second.
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You don't have to believe the numbers, but Mak's per 100s for rebounding and blocked shots are actually really good. 7th best oboarder, 6th best dboarder, 10th in blocks. His biggest issue is he dropped from over 60% on 2s last year to the low 50s this year and his TO rate has increased. None of that is much of a surprise though because he's being used more on offense and shooting slightly more while playing more minutes. He isn't nearly as terrible as our fans make him out to be for sure.
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_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
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did you see where he dunked the ball out of bounds? was pretty awesome.
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The Bellcow is a good player.
People just need to get off his back, alright?
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_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball to his waste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
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I'd love to see some advanced stats on Koach Korn.
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Where do the numbers say he ranks in the big 12 against his 9 peers at the center spot?
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_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball to his waste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
Those are good points. I like when you come back around and do stats like that. I just have the eye test to go by and it wasn’t looking really good. It’s good to know even tho he looks like absolute dogshit he does contribute in a positive way.
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You don't have to believe the numbers, but Mak's per 100s for rebounding and blocked shots are actually really good. 7th best oboarder, 6th best dboarder, 10th in blocks. His biggest issue is he dropped from over 60% on 2s last year to the low 50s this year and his TO rate has increased. None of that is much of a surprise though because he's being used more on offense and shooting slightly more while playing more minutes. He isn't nearly as terrible as our fans make him out to be for sure.
He’s big, athletic and mostly coordinated. Leads to high expectations. I just think he’s a weak rebounder and soft in traffic with or around the ball. He must be fantastic at being in the right position though because his rebounding rate is high.
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#validated. Thanks fan. Thanks Brad Korn.
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_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball to his waste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
Agree with the bolded statement.
Seriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five. He is the only post we have that is capable of making a basket on an entry pass or scoring in our offense. For as much crap as Mak gets for missing those dunks, Stockard fumbled the ball out of bounds multiple times prior to being able to get a dunk off.
I don't like to give Mak too much crap because he is the best option for the team. Korn is looking like a problem. He is failing miserably at developing or recruiting bigs. Would be interested to hear his take on Korn's Korner this week
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Seriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five.
#Dean4Center
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Seriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five.
#Dean4Center
Kinda difficult with Diarra out but yes
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Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.
Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!
Are you asking when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? Or the last time he played 33 minutes with one foul?
He played 35 minutes against Texas a little over a week ago. :dunno:
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I'll just leave this here...
(https://i.ibb.co/hYBg1jy/Mak-Kelly.png)
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I'd also argue that Kelly and Mawien had a similar two hand dunk technique.
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Wasn't necessary, but good to see the numbers confirm that the real CK is a top 5 COAT.
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damn, being validated by _Fan feels so great.
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Important update to _FANs chart
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Important update to _FANs chart
:lol:
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:ck:
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I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
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I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
To me it says Jr Curtis Kelly is demonstrably better than Jr Mak and Sr Curtis Kelly DNGAF and had a ton of regression.
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I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
Good point. It's possible that many here not only underrate Mawien, but also overrate Kelly.
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Really can't compare across eras. Basketball has changed too much. Adorablity and JYC-ness are forever though.
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How many opponent foul shots has mawien blocked from the bench?
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I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
Good point. It's possible that many here not only underrate Mawien, but also overrate Kelly.
Many here? Find me the person who would select Makol Mawien as their starting center over Curtis Kelly and I'll show you someone without eyes.
Making the conclusion that Mak is even in the same ballpark as CK based on advanced stats is exactly the thing that makes old heads freak out about dependence on stats. I don't even think Darryl Morey would make the conclusion that Mak is in the same league as CK.
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I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
To me it says Jr Curtis Kelly is demonstrably better than Jr Mak and Sr Curtis Kelly DNGAF and had a ton of regression.
the switch to Brad’s pinwheel offense reduced CK’s post ups and Oreb opportunities but his DF rate was always 100
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_fan has spoken.
everyone line up and apologize to the Bellcow. perhaps you could bring some cud for him to chew as a nice reconciliation gift.
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Imagine how much better he will be when he sheds the millstone(Claws) from his neck next year.
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I'm not saying Mak is better than CK. He's likely worse, but its only by a small margin.
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Yeah but _fan also picked us to lose to Texas . Credibility problems imho.
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I'd also argue that Kelly and Mawien had a similar two hand dunk technique.
Here are two very, very minor differences. MM has more tomahawk action. And CK has more knee bend when hanging on the rim. Otherwise, twinsies.
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I'd also argue that CK and MM are both a bit moody.
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worst gpc c/p ever
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worst gpc c/p ever
If you want to be anti-gpc, you've got two main choices. You can be just as ignorant and delusional, only in the opposite direction. Or, alternatively, you can NOT be ignorant and delusional, and instead use facts as the basis of your judgements.
When you look at facts here like advanced stats, two hand dunking, moodiness, and haircuts (!), you see that MM and CK are basically the same person.
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I judge my big men based on post interior passing.
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damn, being validated by _Fan feels so great.
Word. Suck it, ChiCat
Seems like every "[insert city/state]Cat" poster is trash.
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Point: Mak looked good today
Counterpoint: Stockard was good and Trice was awesome so maybe OSU sucks ass
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Hey guys, let's just be 1cat and roll some purple.
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:bigtoke:
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Therapeutic hay for all!
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Go Mak! :fistpump:
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Stat sheet says austin trice had a much better game being used in 5 less minutes of action. I think we found our new post player to play opposite of Claws!
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Stat sheet says austin trice had a much better game being used in 5 less minutes of action. I think we found our new post player to play opposite of Claws!
He had an offensive rating of 1.84 and scored at a rate of over 42 points per 100. It was ridiculous.
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Have it on A+++ authority that the bellcow is going to "hayday" in Larryville tonight.
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March 9, 2018
Sprint Center, Kansas City, Missouri
Starters MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Makol Mawien 34 13 19 .684 13 19 .684 0 0 3 4 .750 1 3 4 0 2 2 2 4 29
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Never forget
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Never forget
that was honestly a pretty great effort for the Cats in that one. No Wade. No Brown.
Just continuing to load Bellcow and watch him put Mitch Lightfoot in a box.
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The eye test means more to me again
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I wish I had a gif of that last possession, it was off the charts hilariously bad.
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Soft
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Oof
Soft
(https://media.tenor.com/images/87d452c112f4a85c1f154f59b2b233b2/tenor.gif)
My favorite was when he got an offensive rebound but he flipped it up backwards, from nearly his hip because he thought he was going to get packed again.
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Oof
Soft
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My favorite was when he got an offensive rebound but he flipped it up backwards, from nearly his hip because he thought he was going to get packed again.
Yea man I was really hoping someone got a GIF of that. I was literally laughing.
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/QJHUbtR0yI8[/youtube]
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/QJHUbtR0yI8[/youtube]
:lol: :lol:
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rumblings that Brad Korn is going to enlist the help of "the shot doctor" in efforts to rebuild the stable.
i have so many questions.
who's "the shot doctor"? is Brad Korn essentially admitting that he is incapable of rebuilding the stable on his own?
is "the shot doctor" a planted mole by KthUg?
idk
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Consider this, Icon. What if the prescription for the bellcow is more cowbell?
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Does this year's team have a better record as DJamer as it's starting center?
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Does this year's team have a better record as DJamer as it's starting center?
Of course, DJamer was one of our best bigs in the last 10-15 years.
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(https://i.ibb.co/J7CH2JD/Mak-DJamer-Gip-JO.png)
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DJamer was a total monster the first half of his sr year #footwatch :frown:
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I recall Djamer hating The Flush's guts, so that'd be interesting.
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Does this year's team have a better record as DJamer as it's starting center?
Of course, DJamer was one of our best bigs in the last 10-15 years.
Yeah, DJamer was a pleasant surprise. I won't mention again that I called it after watching his first scrimmage in 2012. Your chart helps me to know that I'm confirmed in my thought that JO is the best center we've had in the last 25 years.
I recall Djamer hating The Flush's guts, so that'd be interesting.
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I mean, eff this guy. Seriously? This is our starter? Good God.
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He’s just pillowy soft. I don’t think the staff have what it takes to baptize him hard.
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Not a coincidence DJamer had the highest motor.
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We might as well play 5 on 4.
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I wish he would just tell the coaching staff if he is going to have one of those games where he scores 15, or if he should just sit.
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:facepalm:
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Rough few minutes there for makol.
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crap's not even funny anymore, he is a rotational big at this level, at best. It's not his fault he has to play so many minutes. This staffs inability to land a serviceable big is tragic. What's worst is the insistence on using one. After Baylor ditched the zone, we were at our best offensively when we he was out and we spread the court 5 out.
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i like mak. always have. always will.
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Sometimes I think his hands are like frozen or don’t work or something.
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Who is in charge of coaching the "bigs"? If it's Darren Kent then it all makes sense. Soft ass pussy.
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literally half our roster should not have a D1 scholarship. without Wade, Stokes, Brown this would be the worst roster in the league BY FAR.
is there some reason oscar isn't running off all these guys? Love, Shadd, Stockard should be run off and oscar should be giving those spots to some new recruits.
we are going to the bottom of the league in a hurry. These last place recruiting classes are going to catch up to us after these seniors leave. its a completely empty cupboard
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i like mak. always have. always will.
It's not really about liking or disliking Mak. He's unquestionably broken, no two ways around it.
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literally half our roster should not have a D1 scholarship. without Wade, Stokes, Brown this would be the worst roster in the league BY FAR.
is there some reason oscar isn't running off all these guys? Love, Shadd, Stockard should be run off and oscar should be giving those spots to some new recruits.
we are going to the bottom of the league in a hurry. These last place recruiting classes are going to catch up to us after these seniors leave. its a completely empty cupboard
This is literally the dumbest post ITT, well maybe not as dumb as the one before it but dumb. Our roster is fine, it's better than fine. It's two bigs away from being one of the best rosters in the country.
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It’s gato’s sock, don’t waste your time.
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Mak is FINE. Everyone shut up about it.
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Mak is FINE. Everyone shut up about it.
You must be watching someone else.
He's got hands of freaking stone. He can't turn and shoot, can't take a pass and go straight up, when he tries to back his man up he usually gets backed down and his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
We're almost playing 4 on 5 on offense every time.
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5 of 6 from the field tonight with 6 boards.
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
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Loved his dunk
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what happened to renocat btw?
[youtube]https://youtu.be/u3qy4Zv4snI?t=60[/youtube]
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his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
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5 of 6 from the field tonight with 6 boards.
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
Do you care nothing at all about the eye test?
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5 of 6 from the field tonight with 6 boards.
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
Don't forget the 3 TOs
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don't forget his big 15 footer when TCU was on a run
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people who complain about mawien's hands haven't been watching k-state basketball for very long
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Bellcow felt right at home in the Ft. Worth Stockyards.
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Mak did a lot of good things last night.
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Trice came for Levi and now he’s coming for mak
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Mak has the unfortunate combo of excelling at the subtle parts of the game like hedging on PnRs but his shortcomings are super visible like 3 missed dunks in 1 game or not even putting his hand up on the tip last night, like we deferred
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To be fair, tip off is pretty pointless unless you’re gonna do it to start the second half too.
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his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
Ooooh. Please tell me, if you've even noticed, how many time he's tried to back into the basket and just gotten used, lost control of the ball or committed some other atrocious t.o.. I watched at least twice, possibly three times, last night when Barry passed the ball directly to him down low, hit him right in the rocks he calls hands and the ball almost immediately went on the floor but not in his possession. and no, he can't jump worth a crap particularly for someone his size and his position. Unless he's left completely alone and/or untouched, how many times have you seen him miss or screw up a dunk from underneath the basket? Too many times.
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his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
Ooooh. Please tell me, if you've even noticed, how many time he's tried to back into the basket and just gotten used, lost control of the ball or committed some other atrocious t.o.. I watched at least twice, possibly three times, last night when Barry passed the ball directly to him down low, hit him right in the rocks he calls hands and the ball almost immediately went on the floor but not in his possession. and no, he can't jump worth a crap particularly for someone his size and his position. Unless he's left completely alone and/or untouched, how many times have you seen him miss or screw up a dunk from underneath the basket? Too many times.
I have no interest in makol mawien.
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My daughter was laughing last night cause she says the most used phrase in our house during games is "Freakin Mawein"
Really enjoyed the sweet pass from Wade last night he got, er tried to get, under the basket. He was trying to pass it around and through his legs I guess. Don't know if he was trying to show off or what before he would of had a wide open dunk attempt, but he needs to quit trying to show off like that :buh-bye:
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not even putting his hand up on the tip last night, like we deferred
My wife WYD'd this irl when it happened.
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mak should have had 17 and 10 last night but his hands and brain get into the way. i simply cant understand with hands his size how its so hard to grab a board or catch a pass. they made a huge deal about him fighting robinson for that board last night and that shouldnt have even been a contest if he was slightly aggressive. i do think he may be injured and or scared of something
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Mak has the unfortunate combo of excelling at the subtle parts of the game like hedging on PnRs but his shortcomings are super visible like 3 missed dunks in 1 game or not even putting his hand up on the tip last night, like we deferred
:thumbsup:
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That pass from wade came in at 100+mph. You can't throw it that hard to him. He's delicate and beautiful.
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mak should have had 17 and 10 last night but his hands and brain get into the way. i simply cant understand with hands his size how its so hard to grab a board or catch a pass. they made a huge deal about him fighting robinson for that board last night and that shouldnt have even been a contest if he was slightly aggressive. i do think he may be injured and or scared of something
is it something of this world or like are we talking demons here?
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I think his feet are worse than his hands.
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But I'm on Dlew's team, lay off dorks.
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Bellcow felt right at home in the Ft. Worth Stockyards.
:love:
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Maybe it's less that Mawien is bad and more that 1-4 are just really good. :dunno:
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Maybe it's less that Mawien is bad and more that 1-4 are just really good. :dunno:
Is Trice much worse? maybe
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moooooooooooo. moooooooooooooooooooooo. mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
little birdie told me that the bellcow is LICKING HIS CHOPS upon seeing OU's frontcourt. i expect a junior to dominate senior day for the cats.
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Mak was 5 for 6 from the field.
6 rebounds and most in traffic.
A steal plus a few other times he poked a ball away that helped lead to KSU having 5 team steals.
Good ball screen defense even if TCUs big man scored 17, Some of those scores were against other defenders and some were just great pick and roll offense by TCU. Still Mak was part of the defense that made Alex Robinson look bad when he drove into the middle.
Two bad turnovers by Mak. One on the lob from McGuirl, one on the pass from Wade. Also got called for a walk that was just a bad call where the ref did not see the ball knocked loose by TCU before Mak grabbed it again.
Not a perfect game by Mak but solid enough.
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Trice came for Levi and now he’s coming for mak
That didn’t take long
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Trice came for Levi and now he’s coming for mak
That didn’t take long
He'll be back in KC...likely in 2nd half
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Trice looked really good today
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Trice looked really good today
he and X and are like the headband wearing bash bro's thats as close to JYC as a oscar team is going to get
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Trice looked really good today
If Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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Trice looked really good today
If Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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It's weird that a guy buff like dude is and presumably with giant hands can't hold onto the ball, but yet here we are.
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Trice looked really good today
If Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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It's weird that a guy buff like dude is and presumably with giant hands can't hold onto the ball, but yet here we are.
Bad elbows?
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Mak’s issues are all mental. He is a mental midget. He’s way more skilled than trice but he’s ultra soft.
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Mak’s issues are all mental. He is a mental midget. He’s way more skilled than trice but he’s ultra soft.
No crap. Thanks for that insightful comment.
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Always happy to help
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Sprint center time!
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I've jumped from the Makwagon onto the Tricemobile. :driving:
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I've jumped from the Makwagon onto the Tricemobile. :driving:
Thats a bold move, Cotton, especially with tourney time coming.
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Here’s hoping a little serious competition can turn mak from Gomer Pyle into a killing machine.
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Here’s hoping a little serious competition can turn mak from Gomer Pyle into a killing machine.
except. well, you are on a roll, let's go with it.
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Here’s hoping a little serious competition can turn mak from Gomer Pyle into a killing machine.
hopefully not a killing machine like Private Pyle
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I’m no catzacker guys, you’ll just have to squint your eyes and accept the flaws.
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rumblings that BRAD KORN may be on SIU's shortlist. I missed this week's edition of KORN'S KORNER featuring BRAD KORN. Did this get mentioned, @pissclams ?
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it was addressed in the DIREKTORS KUT of KORN'S KORNER featuring BRAD KORN but not the regular OTA broadcast.
BRAD KORN said he's worried that SIU won't be able to afford him though so it's probably not an issue. BRAD should be ours for the foreseeable future. cha-ching. :cheers:
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Good article from KR on Mawien.
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article227506899.html (https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article227506899.html)
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K dawg always delivers
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I love Mawein, he was and is #myguy this season, but man he sure goofs up a bunch.
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Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
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A daily dribble limit needs to be put in place for Mak.
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why are you guys so hard on this guy
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Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
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Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.
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Mak had six TOs. Cats had 13, so about half. But the lazy passe passes McGuirl and Sneed made near the top of the key at the start of the 2nd half that led to and-1 runouts were more maddening.
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Mak had six TOs. Cats had 13, so about half. But the lazy passe passes McGuirl and Sneed made near the top of the key at the start of the 2nd half that led to and-1 runouts were more maddening.
Pretty equal maddening for me.
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Mak had six TOs. Cats had 13, so about half. But the lazy passe passes McGuirl and Sneed made near the top of the key at the start of the 2nd half that led to and-1 runouts were more maddening.
He also had a double-double and kept us in the game in the second half. Guard play let us down.
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I’m hard on mak because I love him and know he can be special. Sometimes you
have to tear a man down so you can build him back up.
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Depends on the person. If their foundation and building blocks are there, tearing a man down is counter productive to their development. I agree about him being special though...excited for next season, no doubt.
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Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.
he committed 1 foul which cancels out his extra turnovers, advanced stats back me up, gtfo
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Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.
he committed 1 foul which cancels out his extra turnovers, advanced stats back me up, gtfo
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JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE OK
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For the record, I think he's fine and he's progressing, which is great. At this point my biggest issue with Mak are people who overstate his impact and who call him the key to next season. He's a replacement level center who needs to stop turning the ball over.
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For the record, I think he's fine and he's progressing, which is great. At this point my biggest issue with Mak are people who overstate his impact and who call him the key to next season. He's a replacement level center who needs to stop turning the ball over.
on a good team Mak needs to be a reserve not a starter. thats his biggest problem
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Mak is awful, but slightly less awful than Trice and Stockard. I'm hoping he can be average next year
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How bad is our post play gonna be next year :Yuck:
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It will be better.
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It will be better.
I ride with Big Mak
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We all ride with Mak now, he needs us now more than ever.
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:flush:
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We all ride with Mak now, he needs us now more than ever.
Some tough love seems appropriate.
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Guys, Mak is a rough ridin' space cadet out there. I honestly don't think he's lazy, he just forgets he's playing basketball about once a shot clock.
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He has one rough ridin' rebound this half.
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But more offense than Diarra...
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Guys, Mak is a rough ridin' space cadet out there. I honestly don't think he's lazy, he just forgets he's playing basketball about once a shot clock.
He’s so bad. 😞
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But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
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But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
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The problem is when Mawien gets the ball he has to a) shoot, which he can't do, b) pass, which he is terrible at, or c) dribble, which he sucks at.
It is a mystery how anyone could watch Mawien in practice for two years and not think, "I need to recruit over this clown."
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But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
He literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.
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But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
He literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.
You didn't say more points, you said more offense.
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But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
He literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.
You didn't say more points, you said more offense.
Touche
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I haven't watched a game in weeks(ESPN+ :curse: ) and within the first minute he travels inside the arc and turns it over. Good to know things haven't changed.
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Xpost oppy to the kan korn thread
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go mak go!
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oops
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That game couldn't have been a more perfect microcosm for Mak's career. A fantastic performance, his best defensive effort in his three years here, then he invalidates the whole thing with the mother of mental errors. I'd love to know what the hell was going on in his head when he did that.
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Well, suffered through the cats last night, right up until the 4:00 minute TO called by oscar.
It came after Mawein flashed out to the wing, under no defensive pressure, to receive the most simplist of bounce passes from Diarra.........only to fumble and lose the ball out of bounds. I got up, shut that crap off, and left the man cave :sdeek: