Oh-Bama: playing with the numbers

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The new strategy is to move the unemployed onto disability after 99 weeks and simply pretend they don't exist.

[michigancat]

when do baby boomers start being eligible for social security?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

when do baby boomers start being eligible for social security?

Maybe this year? 

[Brock Landers]

when do baby boomers start being eligible for social security?

Maybe this year? 

Well using 1946 as a start date for that generation, I'd say some of them already have?   

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Double  at those who just ignore things like the labor participation numbers.

For Obamabots that statistical category is a game changer, because it keeps their guy from looking absolutely abysmal.

Do you like to compare apples to apples?  Or oranges?  This has been part of the unemployment rate calculation for decades.   If you want to change it for Obama, then change it for all the prior Presidents.  Or just find something else to complain about for Obama.

BTW, "participation rates" peaked in Clinton's second term.  They went down under Bush II.  But nobody cared because it doesn't really matter...

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

[Rage Against the McKee]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

It's hard to see a problem when the y-axis is not labeled.

[Unruly]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

It's hard to see a problem when the y-axis is not labeled.

Derrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrr you're a rough ridin' moron NK*


per FSD. <3 you NK because I think you are an OK dude.

[06wildcat]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

So labor participation has dropped less than 4 percentage points as the largest demographic in the nation reached retirement age, we're in the midst of a technology revolution that has greatly increased productivity and population growth overall is slowing?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

So labor participation has dropped less than 4 percentage points as the largest demographic in the nation reached retirement age, we're in the midst of a technology revolution that has greatly increased productivity and population growth overall is slowing?

The baby boom demographic is overplayed. The population of the US has doubled in the last 65 years.

[06wildcat]

Baby Boomer demographic overplayed? 

1950 population growth with 145 million people = 2,972,000
2012 population growth with 314 million people = 2,822,860

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If baby boomers represent about 25% of the population, they have a 19 year age spread, and the average life span is about 80 years, it would seem the country has pretty much outgrown the boomers. It would be completely irrelevant if social security didn't run like a ponzi scheme and governments didn't make ridiculous assumptions pertaining to population and economic growth. 

[06wildcat]

If baby boomers represent about 25% of the population, they have a 19 year age spread, and the average life span is about 80 years, it would seem the country has pretty much outgrown the boomers. It would be completely irrelevant if social security didn't run like a ponzi scheme and governments didn't make ridiculous assumptions pertaining to population and economic growth. 

It is hilarious how dumb you are. Thanks for posting a graph to back up my point.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If baby boomers represent about 25% of the population, they have a 19 year age spread, and the average life span is about 80 years, it would seem the country has pretty much outgrown the boomers. It would be completely irrelevant if social security didn't run like a ponzi scheme and governments didn't make ridiculous assumptions pertaining to population and economic growth. 

It is hilarious how dumb you are. Thanks for posting a graph to back up my point.

I wasn't arguing your numbers, just a statement of the folly of social security and it's imminent demise. The government just isn't good at running our lives, yet more than half the population wants them more involved.

[Kat Kid]

He isn't stupid, it just is nearly impossible to see what is happening to the U.S. demographically.  Follow the fat part.

http://populationpyramid.net/United+States+of+America/2000/

http://populationpyramid.net/United+States+of+America/2010/

http://populationpyramid.net/United+States+of+America/2030/

There is a big difference.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Only a moron (by definition includes all obama supporters) could look at this and not see a problem.



Derrrrrr, the denominator has no effect on the product, duurrrrrrr

So labor participation has dropped less than 4 percentage points as the largest demographic in the nation reached retirement age, we're in the midst of a technology revolution that has greatly increased productivity and population growth overall is slowing?

What a frivolous post.  A failed attempt to marginalize a horrific statistic.

[sys]

christ.  i hope we experience a pestilence, or some other horrific population decimating event before we get to 400 million.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

... if social security didn't run like a ponzi scheme and governments didn't make ridiculous assumptions pertaining to population and economic growth. 

One of my biggest regrets about Bush being elected...   

MR. GORE: And here's what I would do, here's my plan. I will keep Social Security in a lockbox, and that pays down the national debt and the interest savings I would put right back into Social Security. That extends the life of Social Security for 55 years.
[...]
You know, Social Security is a trust fund that pays the checks this year with the money that's paid into Social Security this year. The governor wants to divert one out of every six dollars off into the stock market, which means that he would drain a trillion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund over the, in this generation, over the next 10 years, and Social Security under that approach would go bankrupt within this generation. His leading adviser on this plan actually said that would be O.K. because then the Social Security trust fund could start borrowing. It would borrow up to $3 trillion. Now, Social Security has never done that, and I don't think it should do that. I think it should stay in a lockbox, and I'll tell you this, I will veto anything that takes money out of Social Security for privatization or anything else, other than Social Security.
[...]

MR. BUSH:  No. There's enough money to pay seniors today and the current affairs of Social Security. The trillion comes from the surplus. Surplus is more -- is money, more money than needed.

Then Bush did what he said he would, and gave it all away in tax cuts...

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

... if social security didn't run like a ponzi scheme and governments didn't make ridiculous assumptions pertaining to population and economic growth. 

One of my biggest regrets about Bush being elected...   

MR. GORE: And here's what I would do, here's my plan. I will keep Social Security in a lockbox, and that pays down the national debt and the interest savings I would put right back into Social Security. That extends the life of Social Security for 55 years.
[...]
You know, Social Security is a trust fund that pays the checks this year with the money that's paid into Social Security this year. The governor wants to divert one out of every six dollars off into the stock market, which means that he would drain a trillion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund over the, in this generation, over the next 10 years, and Social Security under that approach would go bankrupt within this generation. His leading adviser on this plan actually said that would be O.K. because then the Social Security trust fund could start borrowing. It would borrow up to $3 trillion. Now, Social Security has never done that, and I don't think it should do that. I think it should stay in a lockbox, and I'll tell you this, I will veto anything that takes money out of Social Security for privatization or anything else, other than Social Security.
[...]

MR. BUSH:  No. There's enough money to pay seniors today and the current affairs of Social Security. The trillion comes from the surplus. Surplus is more -- is money, more money than needed.

Then Bush did what he said he would, and gave it all away in tax cuts...

One thing about Bush is he always did what he said he would, right or wrong. The only thing I miss about GWB.