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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Bookcat on July 12, 2011, 01:38:03 PM
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I agree.
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and during these daily meetings GOP leaders won't even TOUCH the defense budget as part of a debt reduction plan for the next 5 years.
but social security, medicare, health benefits, WIC for single mothers, after school programs, ....yep, those are on the chopping block.
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It is like pike is swimming around out there and you threw a big juicy chunk of bloody carcass overboard
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We spend more on defense than every other nation in the world combined. I'm pretty sure we would be able to cut the defense budget by 30-40% and still be safe enough.
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The House actually cut $8 Billion off the increase (to an all time record high military budget request) the Whitehouse wanted.
That of course doesn't include another $33 billion or so for various Nuclear Weapons maintenance programs. All told, the Obama Whitehouse will ask for a new record, or very close to a new record military/intelligence/DHS complex spending (of course, they're the record holders).
I cannot wait for the fun and games we're going to get from this administration when they try and tell us they are "bringing the troops home" just in time for the election.
In addition, one has to only :lol: at the fact that the hated entity of all liberals, the CIA, is and will be front and center on the "War on terra" for this administration. Thus limiting the overall oversight the "war on Terra" will receive.
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It is like pike is swimming around out there and you threw a big juicy chunk of bloody carcass overboard
:emawkid:
Defense must be cut. Republicans, or anyone for that matter, that think we can solve the debt crisis with out cutting defense is living in a fantasy land.
I mean wtf do we have bases in Germany, Japan, or even Cuba for? Obviously among many others. Were just subsidizing other countries' welfare state because they don't have to raise their own army.
But, this is not a republican/democrat issue.
The military industrial complex DOESN'T want to cut defense, obviously, so it will not be cut.
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I agree. We should let China and Russia be the world's police. We'll all be much better off.
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I agree. We should let China and Russia be the world's police. We'll all be much better off.
Let them bankrupt themselves. Better them than us.
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There's tons of waste in the Defense budget. It still pales in comaprison to the NON Discretionary spending :blindfold:
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From 2000 to 2010 federal spending increased from $1,789B to $3,456B. For you math majors that a 93% increase in federal spending. Just some Facts
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Tax revenues highest ever 2005-2008 when GWB was president shortly after taxes were cut.
Ought oh, more fact stuff ("other mandatory" is mostly more welfare entitlements)
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From 2000 to 2010 federal spending increased from $1,789B to $3,456B. For you math majors that a 93% increase in federal spending. Just some Facts
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Tax revenues highest ever 2005-2008 when GWB was president shortly after taxes were cut.
Ought oh, more fact stuff ("other mandatory" is mostly more welfare entitlements)
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Who was president for 8 out of the 10 years of this 93% increase?
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George W. Bush raised the national debt by nearly $5 trillion.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother fuckers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
the problem is spending and revenue.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
the problem is spending and revenue.
fix the economy and revenue fixes itself. It's really rough ridin' simple.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
Not sure if you heard, but Obama wants to cut the budget by $4 trillion and reform the entire Social Security/Medicare systems. Republicans are the ones holding up the process based on their inability to compromise. The simple fact of the matter is that government generates about 99% of its revenue from taxes.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
the problem is spending and revenue.
fix the economy and revenue fixes itself. It's really effing simple.
wut
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
the problem is spending and revenue.
fix the economy and revenue fixes itself. It's really rough ridin' simple.
business is at a standstill until a deal to up the debt limit is made. despite this fact, there exists a conservative group in the House that has earned the nickname, "the Hell No Caucus." bet it makes you proud too.
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:D
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dnr this thread but I think we have a problem with both
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This whole downward spiral began when Kansas raised the drinking age for 3.2 beer from 18 to 21. Mark it down.
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dnr this thread but I think we have a problem with both
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
Not sure if you heard, but Obama wants to cut the budget by $4 trillion and reform the entire Social Security/Medicare systems. Republicans are the ones holding up the process based on their inability to compromise. The simple fact of the matter is that government generates about 99% of its revenue from taxes.
You do, however, seem to have an uncanny ability to lap up and regurgitate the mindless babble that dribbles out of the mouth of the psychopathic, sycophant we call "president"; an indictment on your ability to form any semblance of independent thought and further evidence of your own insanity. 'grats Beems, you rough ridin' lunatics.
LOL at BMW :facepalm: so naive
Please place the "Obama wants to cut $4T" in the "here what I say not what I do" category, next to Gitmo, Bush Tax Cuts, Public Option, End Illegal Wars, etc.
Which programs did he suggest get cut to get that figure??? Oh yeah, none, he just said it because he's doing everything in his power to politicize this (as are both parties).
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
Not sure if you heard, but Obama wants to cut the budget by $4 trillion and reform the entire Social Security/Medicare systems. Republicans are the ones holding up the process based on their inability to compromise. The simple fact of the matter is that government generates about 99% of its revenue from taxes.
You do, however, seem to have an uncanny ability to lap up and regurgitate the mindless babble that dribbles out of the mouth of the psychopathic, sycophant we call "president"; an indictment on your ability to form any semblance of independent thought and further evidence of your own insanity. 'grats Beems, you effing lunatics.
LOL at BMW :facepalm: so naive
Please place the "Obama wants to cut $4T" in the "here what I say not what I do" category, next to Gitmo, Bush Tax Cuts, Public Option, End Illegal Wars, etc.
Which programs did he suggest get cut to get that figure??? Oh yeah, none, he just said it because he's doing everything in his power to politicize this (as are both parties).
He already cut the entire NASA shuttle program, along with several wasteful military defense projects. You are blinded by irrational hate.
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Obama sucks at sports. He's terrible.
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If it was a problem when George Bush did it, why isn't it a problem now?
B.O. has added to the deficit in 2 1/2 years what Bush added to it in 8. Regardless, that's history, the problem has been identified (spending) now its time to solve it you dumb mother effers. Keep belching you nonsensical talking points, if that's what makes you feel good about supporting this fool.
Not sure if you heard, but Obama wants to cut the budget by $4 trillion and reform the entire Social Security/Medicare systems. Republicans are the ones holding up the process based on their inability to compromise. The simple fact of the matter is that government generates about 99% of its revenue from taxes.
You do, however, seem to have an uncanny ability to lap up and regurgitate the mindless babble that dribbles out of the mouth of the psychopathic, sycophant we call "president"; an indictment on your ability to form any semblance of independent thought and further evidence of your own insanity. 'grats Beems, you effing lunatics.
LOL at BMW :facepalm: so naive
Please place the "Obama wants to cut $4T" in the "here what I say not what I do" category, next to Gitmo, Bush Tax Cuts, Public Option, End Illegal Wars, etc.
Which programs did he suggest get cut to get that figure??? Oh yeah, none, he just said it because he's doing everything in his power to politicize this (as are both parties).
He already cut the entire NASA shuttle program, along with several wasteful military defense projects. You are blinded by irrational hate.
It takes an incredibly stupid person to make that post and then call someone else irrational. :facepalm:
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we've heard very little in terms of back patting about Obama's decision to scuttle the shuttle.
Hell, if Bush would have made such a move he's be heralded as a great fiscal conservative. Fox News would probably have a two hour special.
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we've heard very little in terms of back patting about Obama's decision to scuttle the shuttle.
Hell, if Bush would have made such a move he's be heralded as a great fiscal conservative. Fox News would probably have a two hour special.
The end of the shuttle program was planned during the Bush admin. You can pat him on the back.
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I thought the shuttle program was a good program. :dunno:
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Glad the shuttle program is over. I mean, wtf are we doing just sending people to this flying swing set anyway? Why the eff haven't we gone to mars yet? JFC :shakesfist:
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Glad the shuttle program is over. I mean, wtf are we doing just sending people to this flying swing set anyway? Why the eff haven't we gone to mars yet? JFC :shakesfist:
http://www.nasa.gov/50th/50th_magazine/benefits.html (http://www.nasa.gov/50th/50th_magazine/benefits.html)
NASA develops some very cool stuff.
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we've heard very little in terms of back patting about Obama's decision to scuttle the shuttle.
Hell, if Bush would have made such a move he's be heralded as a great fiscal conservative. Fox News would probably have a two hour special.
The end of the shuttle program was planned during the Bush admin. You can pat him on the back.
Ah.
I see. So Obama is responsible for the failing policies from Bush...but the "good" things..that's all GW.
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we've heard very little in terms of back patting about Obama's decision to scuttle the shuttle.
Hell, if Bush would have made such a move he's be heralded as a great fiscal conservative. Fox News would probably have a two hour special.
The end of the shuttle program was planned during the Bush admin. You can pat him on the back.
Ah.
I see. So Obama is responsible for the failing policies from Bush...but the "good" things..that's all GW.
:jerk:
I thought everything is Bush's fault and Obama is the greatest economic president of all time. Things are going great now. We even had the Summer of Recovery last year.
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I thought everything is Bush's fault and Obama is the greatest economic president of all time.
I never made that claim.
Boehner and Reid have agreed, in part, to a deal today....the only sticking point for Raging Boehner was Democratic demand for a cut in military spending.......but he'll bend over for the Tea Party who just can't wait to destroy Social Security and Medicare. That's all fair game.
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Bookcat sucks at political discussions.