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Quote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 07:52:54 PMThey have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculousWhy? The Secret Service doesn't just roll around America(although haven't they been involved in some dipshit headlines recently).
They have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculous
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 09:36:56 PMQuote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 08:12:51 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 07:52:54 PMThey have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculousWhy? The Secret Service doesn't just roll around America(although haven't they been involved in some dipshit headlines recently).Uh what?I don't find it to be inconsistent to say gun free zones are unsafe, whether I believe it true or not, and say an area where Presidential candidates may be with their secret service detail in tow is fundamentally different due to the presence of the secret service.
Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 08:12:51 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 07:52:54 PMThey have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculousWhy? The Secret Service doesn't just roll around America(although haven't they been involved in some dipshit headlines recently).Uh what?
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2016, 08:48:27 AMWhether or not there are actual contradictions here doesn't even matter. The mere appearance of contradiction is itself a bad look.I mean if you want to protect against confirmation bias.
Whether or not there are actual contradictions here doesn't even matter. The mere appearance of contradiction is itself a bad look.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2016, 08:58:29 AMQuote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 10:03:32 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 09:36:56 PMQuote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 08:12:51 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 07:52:54 PMThey have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculousWhy? The Secret Service doesn't just roll around America(although haven't they been involved in some dipshit headlines recently).Uh what?I don't find it to be inconsistent to say gun free zones are unsafe, whether I believe it true or not, and say an area where Presidential candidates may be with their secret service detail in tow is fundamentally different due to the presence of the secret service.To say armed citizens are a defense against violent crime and also a protected constitutional right....except for certain instances when we decide it isn't.If they are hardlining ABSOLUTELY NO infringement of 2nd amendment rights(which I don't think exists anyways due to gun laws) then there is a contradiction.To me the whole protection from carrying citizens derives from saying you cannot control bad actors with guns, therefore it's better to allow "good ones" to also be present. The whole point of the Secret Service being there IS to control that environment and I'm guessing those trained good actors will also be packing. Again I don't agree that more good guys with guns is actually protecting anybody, I mean I guess if we were at war .
Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 10:03:32 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 09:36:56 PMQuote from: memphis on April 12, 2016, 08:12:51 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2016, 07:52:54 PMThey have to allow guns, or risk looking ridiculousWhy? The Secret Service doesn't just roll around America(although haven't they been involved in some dipshit headlines recently).Uh what?I don't find it to be inconsistent to say gun free zones are unsafe, whether I believe it true or not, and say an area where Presidential candidates may be with their secret service detail in tow is fundamentally different due to the presence of the secret service.To say armed citizens are a defense against violent crime and also a protected constitutional right....except for certain instances when we decide it isn't.
Gun free conventions will the the ground zero of the government putting the boot to the ppl. Without guns, there will be no chance to resist.