K-State went 14-4 in both Big 12 Championship seasons. Since the round robin started, 14-4 wins the conference 5 out of 9 times, multiple times it wins it outright. Having someone else "eff it up elsewhere" has very little to do with it.
No coach at K-State has even come remotely close to those 2 conference seasons at K-State in 30+ years.
Not just anyone else, the squawks and their however many sta1ght. We, like others who'd tied them in the past and like tech who finished ahead of them the other time, benefited from their ineptitude those years.
I probably erred in mixing the flukey and asterisk-y adjectives. The E8, in a vacuum, is more flukey because it came to be in large part due to the only 16 beating a 1 ever. What I'm taking about more is how I view the 2 accomplishments that are used and will be used to justify oscar's current and next employment - the E8 and the 2 conference championships.
While the E8 was flukey, a lot of E8's can be flukey. An E8 may not carry much weight to hiring people anyway because they know that inherently they can be flukey. It's 3 wins in a tournament that is popular because of upsets and bracket pools.
As a hiring person in an imaginary world where I'd even look at oscar, I'd side-eye more the 2 'ships, because 1/5 of the teams in the league won "it" those years, the first being with the prior staff's players and the second when ku was historically bad. Each was followed by an immediate ncaa tourney flame-out and thereafter the program got blown to hell (separately, twice!).
He will present and be presented as 2-time Big 12 Champion oscar weber, and it's up to whoever has to hire and pay him to decide what weight that carries.