DJamer's Denver Domination; CSU ADV

[Mixed-Nutz]

if they've improved as shooters, why isn't it showing up in their ft%?


if someone wants to dig up their hs numbers, that'd help a lot.

I'd say sample size as much as anything. Neither Brown nor Stokes are high FT rate guys and will both have twice as many 3PT attempts as FT attempts. Stokes was a 72% shooter from the FT line last year while going from 34% to 41% from 3. I'd say his 56% FT% this year is an anomoly. Brown is at 61% FT%, down slightly from 64% with the improvement in 3PT%. For both, I think their FT% will settle around 70% in Big 12 play. Westicles has made steady improvements in FT% while being a decent FT rate guy (his %shots is up this year though). I think lower 30s from 3 makes sense. Wade is more of a strange case and I don't think his 46% from 3 is sustainable, but he's still a good enough shooter to be effective. Sneed appears to just be a good shooter with 80% FT and 41% 3PT. Ervin isn't going to shoot a lot, so I think his numbers have a minimal effect.

I get the point correlating FT% to 3PT% and shooting ability, but I don't think its always going to be a solid correlation. I see that we've got 3 guys that have over 40 attempts each (nearly 4 attempts per game each) and all are shooting 39% or better. To me that shows we have multiple good shooters and the shooting for this team will be sustainable because you have to guard us on the perimeter and in the post because DJamer has become so effective scoring inside.

Barry was 198 for 279 as a senior in high school from the charity stripe. The stroke is there. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

if they've improved as shooters, why isn't it showing up in their ft%?

That's like asking "if Phil Mickelson is so good at golf why isn't he making his putts?"

no it's not.

Yes it is. Nobody shoots free throws the same as shots taken at game speed. FT's are 90% mental.

[kso_FAN]

At this point I can't believe that this collective shooting improvement (from Brown, Stokes, Wade, Westicles, Ervin) is some sort of anomaly. These guys worked and got better in the offseason with their shots. You don't go from .305 (117/384 in 33 games) to .397 (60/151 in 11 games) behind the arc by accident. Every one of them has improved.

[catastrophe]

I'm still only cautiously optimistic.  Playing a good defense can have a significant impact on shot percentage.

[kso_FAN]

I'm still only cautiously optimistic.  Playing a good defense can have a significant impact on shot percentage.

KU, Baylor, and West Virginia have really good defenses through the OOC. Others are solid, but I'm not sure we'll see great defenses night in and night out in this league.

Also, 3pt% usually doesn't drop much in conference play and often gets better; the regressions will come in TO%, 2PT%, and maybe OR% against better defenses. Tougher 3PT% "defense" in league play isn't a reality.

[Mixed-Nutz]

At this point I can't believe that this collective shooting improvement (from Brown, Stokes, Wade, Westicles, Ervin) is some sort of anomaly. These guys worked and got better in the offseason with their shots. You don't go from .305 (117/384 in 33 games) to .397 (60/151 in 11 games) behind the arc by accident. Every one of them has improved.

If I remember correctly Kam, Dean and Barry all shot around 40% their senior year. It wasn't like they were bad shooters coming in. We are running better offense in general and also have so natural progression.

[sys]

Barry was 198 for 279 as a senior in high school from the charity stripe. The stroke is there.

that's good info, thanks.  so 69% for his last three years in bball.  that's pretty online with a 3% in the low to mid 30s, at least when paired with how frequently he tends to shoot.

i'd be willing to bet my predictions, if anyone wants to.

[kso_FAN]

Welp.

[wetwillie]

people who have watched ksu hoops this season and also other big 12 teams:

How do we start the first six league games:


Texas
@KU
OU
@TTU
Baylor
@OSU

 
my first instinct is 2-4

['taterblast]

2-4

[EMAWzifried]

3-3, but Texas is the make or break game. If the Cat lay an egg in that game, it's essentially wrap up the season and start the coaching search.

[Kat Kid]

people who have watched ksu hoops this season and also other big 12 teams:

How do we start the first six league games:


Texas
@KU
OU
@TTU
Baylor
@OSU

 
my first instinct is 2-4

should win Texas, OU @Tech if we are planning on being bubble or better.  2-4 or worse definitely possible though.

[sys]

that @ tech game will be so important.

[Tobias]

3-3 would be enjoyable

[wetwillie]

Also i just realized we get to see Rick Barnes only a year after his departure from UT.  What a treat that is.

[gatoveintisiet]

4-2 would shock the world

[kso_FAN]

people who have watched ksu hoops this season and also other big 12 teams:

How do we start the first six league games:


Texas
@KU
OU
@TTU
Baylor
@OSU

 
my first instinct is 2-4

four and two

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

people who have watched ksu hoops this season and also other big 12 teams:

How do we start the first six league games:


Texas -W
@KU -L
OU -W
@TTU -W
Baylor - W
@OSU - L (but only because big 12 refs)

 
my first instinct is 2-4

[Tobias]

i liked the osu part FSD

[420seriouscat69]

DJamer is a freak!