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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: stunted on December 10, 2020, 03:10:44 PM
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+ recruiting! :Chirp:
+ reason for recent sucking (no solid upperclassmen), is fixed (see above) :cyclist:
+ when he's got good players, he does as good of a job as anyone. bad players, he seems to do worse. but we got good players now! :alleyoop:
+ high-ceiling coach (big 12 titles, elite 8, national title runner-up). BIG GAME oscar :lightsaber: :Yoda:
+ recruiting! :Wha:
+ way better than asbury and woolridge. arguably similar to frank (but with more ups and downs) :Good vs:
+ defensive wizard :block:
getting a new coach is a crapshoot. let the guy who's proven he can win with good players do his thing. in 2 years we still may struggle to put 60 on the board, but with this gigantic athletic team, others will struggle to put up 50.
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I 100% respect anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they don't like his style. I find anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they want a more successful coach to be a bit absurd.
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2 big 12 championships
Elite 8
5 NCAA Appearances in 8 years
:dunno:
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oscar has a certain, "je ne sais quoi" that i hate
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I'm convinced :alleyoop:
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2 big 12 championships
Elite 8
5 NCAA Appearances in 8 years
:dunno:
Anti brucers hate these stats. Especially when the other guy they were obsessed with, is 1 for 8 in tourney appearances. First conference title since 1973! And then he goes on to get another one and ends "the streak" against a school, that hates him, because he put on a funeral for Self when he arrived at Illinois. :love:
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Counterpoints for the sake of BBS’n:
2 big 12 championships
Both shared. First one was shared with a team that beat us 3 out of 3 times that year. Second time was shared with a team who went on to play in the national championship while we got bumped in the first round by UC-Irvine.
Elite 8
Significantly less impressive than Frank’s because getting there required the 1 seed in our region to lose their first round game for the first time in human history. (And completely pud other matchups against everyone except Kentucky, and even that year was a 5 seed Kentucky.)
5 NCAA Appearances in 8 years
Record? (And please don’t K-State0 it up by including play-in games.)
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2 big 12 championships
Elite 8
5 NCAA Appearances in 8 years
:dunno:
He went to a national championship game at Illinois and got crap canned from there.
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Someone will have to educate me on why recruiting is a positive. If you average everything out, seem kinda .500ish to me. Which, is pretty much oscar.
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He had a top 25 class last year, I think we have done that one other time in the last 15 years
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he is squeaky (not squaky) clean
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Someone will have to educate me on why recruiting is a positive. If you average everything out, seem kinda .500ish to me. Which, is pretty much oscar.
He’s landed more 4 stars/top 150 guys than any other K-State basketball coach in the history of the program.
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He had a top 25 class last year, I think we have done that one other time in the last 15 years
Is this grcoat the dudes that are currently endeavoring to end The Streak?
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He had a top 25 class last year, I think we have done that one other time in the last 15 years
Is this grcoat the dudes that are currently endeavoring to end The Streak?
Doing it at a high level too
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There are 5 top 150 guys he brought in this year. Two are hurt and there was zero offseason prep due to covid. Literally had to cancel their summer trip overseas. He didn’t land 2 McDonalds AA who could limp into a 11 seed. Love it when the anti brucers come out of hiding and were quiet for years when he was succeeding.
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He’s lost the team wacks, its over. I’m really thankful for what he gave us though. 5/9 tournaments is pretty good and the elite 8 run was so much fun.
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+ it's basketball so almost nobody cares. if we aren't overpaying him then wgaf?
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+ it's basketball so almost nobody cares. if we aren't overpaying him then wgaf?
How much is over paying?
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He’s lost the team wacks, its over. I’m really thankful for what he gave us though. 5/9 tournaments is pretty good and the elite 8 run was so much fun.
Oh, I know, but the most vocal are the ones who gave up in 2011/12. It’s just annoying seeing them come out of nowhere, pounding their chest now. He’s not gonna get fired this year, btw.
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Just did a 180 on the guy, let's keep him.
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+ it's basketball so almost nobody cares. if we aren't overpaying him then wgaf?
How much is over paying?
I say Self, Hugs, Beard and Lon are clearly better and have all taken their current schools to a F4
Shaka, Dixon, Prohm and Boyton have done much less at their current schools
So I put oscar in a tier with Drew who is making $3M at least so oscar at $2.75M or seems about right
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I used to be a huge kstate cats fan but now I don't care. I guess the oscar fans won!
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Sure if you want to pay for prior performance and not where the program is trending. We are the worst program in the league by far and don’t appear to be getting any better.
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There are 5 top 150 guys he brought in this year. Two are hurt and there was zero offseason prep due to covid. Literally had to cancel their summer trip overseas. He didn’t land 2 McDonalds AA who could limp into a 11 seed. Love it when the anti brucers come out of hiding and were quiet for years when he was succeeding.
Yes, he has a very good class his year. But there are other classes littered with players who did absolutely nothing. With all the effort oscar puts into recruiting, it’s just feels like the ROI is a little lacking to me. :dunno:
But let’s see how this class pans out. Maybe next year it looks amazing.
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I 100% respect anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they don't like his style. I find anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they want a more successful coach to be a bit absurd.
This is becoming an increasingly harder case to make.
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There are 5 top 150 guys he brought in this year. Two are hurt and there was zero offseason prep due to covid. Literally had to cancel their summer trip overseas. He didn’t land 2 McDonalds AA who could limp into a 11 seed. Love it when the anti brucers come out of hiding and were quiet for years when he was succeeding.
Yes, he has a very good class his year. But there are other classes littered with players who did absolutely nothing. With all the effort oscar puts into recruiting, it’s just feels like the ROI is a little lacking to me. :dunno:
But let’s see how this class pans out. Maybe next year it looks amazing.
Honestly, I could careless these days too. Just trying to make a point that never Brucer’s gave up on the program, because they lost a guy who has a worse track record than him now.
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He had a top 25 class last year, I think we have done that one other time in the last 15 years
Is this grcoat the dudes that are currently endeavoring to end The Streak?
Doing it at a high level too
And in the recruiting rankings that don't factor in subsequently losing to hays, it was ranked 4th or 5th in the 10-team big 12, right?
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I 100% respect anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they don't like his style. I find anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they want a more successful coach to be a bit absurd.
This is becoming an increasingly harder case to make.
this season doesn't count
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I used to be a huge kstate cats fan but now I don't care. I guess the oscar fans won!
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Having a historically bad The Streak-breaking season that can be excused for not counting isn't a bad way to distract from having gone 11-21 (3-15) in the last season that counts.
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He mows his own lawn, which means he’s a normal guy like me and a good basketball coach.
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No matter what you think of his track record at Kats U., there is one indisputable fact that Broosesteppers and Never Brucers can agree on: oscar Weber is not fun. You may like his results, you may not, but there's literally no one in this fanbase who is having as much fun as they were during Frank's Frankiest moments. Would oscar Weber kiss Stanbot on the cheek and wish him a Merry Christmas? Nope.
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
yes! more of that.
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
2OT Xavier fun?
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I 100% respect anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they don't like his style. I find anyone's view that they do not want oscar because they want a more successful coach to be a bit absurd.
This is becoming an increasingly harder case to make.
this season doesn't count
There's an extent to that as well.
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
2OT Xavier fun?
To be fair, I don't think any game in a tourney could be more fun unless the stakes were higher (FF, NC game).
That game was nuts regardless of you were a fan or not.
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Great point, SB. oscar didn't need a double OT victory to make it to the elite 8 vs a team he had already rolled that year.
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Sure if you want to pay for prior performance and not where the program is trending. We are the worst program in the league by far and don’t appear to be getting any better.
Time to buy in when it hits bottom :ksu:
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Great point, SB. oscar didn't need a double OT victory to make it to the elite 8 vs a team he had already rolled that year.
True, but he did need the 1 seed to lose in a historic and unheard of upset to clear the way.
And I’m not sure if you saw this recently, but he also lost at home by 13 to a winless Fort Hays State team who had neither their head coach nor their main assistant coach.
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No matter what you think of his track record at Kats U., there is one indisputable fact that Broosesteppers and Never Brucers can agree on: oscar Weber is not fun. You may like his results, you may not, but there's literally no one in this fanbase who is having as much fun as they were during Frank's Frankiest moments. Would oscar Weber kiss Stanbot on the cheek and wish him a Merry Christmas? Nope.
I think this is a big part of why people don't like oscar. He is about as exciting as Milk Toast.
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No matter what you think of his track record at Kats U., there is one indisputable fact that Broosesteppers and Never Brucers can agree on: oscar Weber is not fun. You may like his results, you may not, but there's literally no one in this fanbase who is having as much fun as they were during Frank's Frankiest moments. Would oscar Weber kiss Stanbot on the cheek and wish him a Merry Christmas? Nope.
I think this is a big part of why people don't like oscar. He is about as exciting as Milk Toast.
lol
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It might be a mistake to infer that Frank was fun on the basis that you were having more fun. Frank's typical demeanor was acting pissed off. Also, he was abusive.
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I wasn't a Frank fan. His demeanor and sideline bullshit rubbed me the wrong way far more than oscar's dork factor.
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It might be a mistake to infer that Frank was fun on the basis that you were having more fun. Frank's typical demeanor was acting pissed off. Also, he was abusive.
His style of play was fun. They always played super hard and he gave players freedom and trust to make plays.
But yeah his demeanor and how he treated players was and still is a problem. I gave it a pass because his old players seemed to love him, but that obviously didn't apply to all of them. (Note I think a large portion CBB coaches are abusive shitheads, they're just smart enough to control it in front of cameras).
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I want a team that will chew your face off. Barry brought some of that on his own and that made the E8 run fun. oscar doesn’t have it and can’t instill it in his teams.
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I want a team that will chew your face off. Barry brought some of that on his own and that made the E8 run fun. oscar doesn’t have it and can’t instill it in his teams.
Selton Miguel will 100% chew your face off but general point is correct.
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No matter what you think of his track record at Kats U., there is one indisputable fact that Broosesteppers and Never Brucers can agree on: oscar Weber is not fun. You may like his results, you may not, but there's literally no one in this fanbase who is having as much fun as they were during Frank's Frankiest moments. Would oscar Weber kiss Stanbot on the cheek and wish him a Merry Christmas? Nope.
this is EXACTLY it + the illinois firing factor. no one was even talking about oscar when we announced we were hiring him.
if we had hired a young unproven coach who everyone just thought was cool as hell, i think the tone would be a lot different with the amount of success in the last 8 seasons.
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you want him kissing dudes during a pandemic?
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
The devil you know...
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
KSO is full of reactionary emotional dweebs. we are much more level headed
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
KSO is full of reactionary emotional dweebs. we are much more level headed
I mean, gone are the days when gE used to bring this level of energy to the question of who would coach the 'Cats....
(https://www.cjonline.com/storyimage/KS/20120331/SPORTS/303319857/AR/0/AR-303319857.jpg?MaxW=600)
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who would we get that was better? too soon to hire gregg marshall?
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Great point, SB. oscar didn't need a double OT victory to make it to the elite 8 vs a team he had already rolled that year.
And I’m not sure if you saw this recently, but he also lost at home by 13 to a winless Fort Hays State team who had neither their head coach nor their main assistant coach.
who coached the game for them then? maybe we should hire that guy
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He's under contract and that should count for something. :th_twocents:
yeah, and it is a gross af contract
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
KSO is full of reactionary emotional dweebs. we are much more level headed
I mean, gone are the days when gE used to bring this level of energy to the question of who would coach the 'Cats....
(https://www.cjonline.com/storyimage/KS/20120331/SPORTS/303319857/AR/0/AR-303319857.jpg?MaxW=600)
that was rational, well considered, long term anger
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I'm not anti-oscar, but he frustrates the hell out of me as a fan. I wish the rebuilding seasons could be .500 basketball versus suck-hard-ass-lose-to-crap-opponents basketball.
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you want him kissing dudes during a pandemic?
obviously
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Remember when Frank's team only beat FHSU by 8 and he said that line about "If they don't [whatever it was], I'm gonna destroy them"? :love: And we all thought the sky was falling because we didn't beat them by double digits?
Now Oscar loses to FHSU by 13 and the response on gE is actually more subdued. Because Oscar has killed excitement around Qat hoops...because he's not fun.
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I'm not anti-oscar, but he frustrates the hell out of me as a fan. I wish the rebuilding seasons could be .500 basketball versus suck-hard-ass-lose-to-crap-opponents basketball.
Any other coach who'd won the conf. twice and gone to the elite 8 would have a .500 rebuild season but this is oscar.
This is KSU, we don't build on our successes.
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
2OT Xavier fun?
To be fair, I don't think any game in a tourney could be more fun unless the stakes were higher (FF, NC game).
That game was nuts regardless of you were a fan or not.
Unpopular opinion, I did not have fun watching that game, I was a wreck, by the time we pulled away in the 2nd OT I was drained.
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Guys, the freshmen are very good, this might not be an argument for keeping oscar though.
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On a ksu sports message board talking about how little you care :jerk:
You all had fun during the elite 8 run
2OT Xavier fun?
To be fair, I don't think any game in a tourney could be more fun unless the stakes were higher (FF, NC game).
That game was nuts regardless of you were a fan or not.
Unpopular opinion, I did not have fun watching that game, I was a wreck, by the time we pulled away in the 2nd OT I was drained.
You are not alone, it only became fun after we won. I was wrecked. Glad we won, but literally felt bad for xavier players, both teams deserved to win.
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who would we get that was better? too soon to hire gregg marshall?
Exactly, finding a guy that can completely change the program is a big crapshoot. Will be a longshot to find someone to even match oscar’s results. Best to ride it out with while he can give us really good teams some of the time. How many coaches out there are winning 25 a year? Even 20 a year. Frank’s only had 2 20+ seasons in 9 years. oscar has had 3 25+ seasons in that span.
You know what’s fun? Our amazing freshmen.
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Yesterday I really wanted oscar fired out of spite and boredom. But 4 years of the freshman might lead to another big year or two. I can ride a Rollercoaster as long as the peaks are constant.
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We don't need someone to completely change the program, there's talent. His offense was too restrictive for last years team and it will be for these guys too, he needs to let them play. That Hoosiers bullshit was fine for Brown, Stokes, and Wade because those teams weren't particularly athletic, but this team is and he has two big men that seem to be good rim runners too. These dudes can't defend in the half court anyway so why make them?
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We don't need someone to completely change the program, there's talent. His offense was too restrictive for last years team and it will be for these guys too, he needs to let them play. That Hoosiers bullshit was fine for Brown, Stokes, and Wade because those teams weren't particularly athletic, but this team is and he has two big men that seem to be good rim runners too. These dudes can't defend in the half court anyway so why make them?
I can’t tell if you are being serious about the 18 and 19 squad being not particularly athletic.
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The Hoosiers bullshit worked because Brown and Wade could generate offense in one on one matchups late in the shot clock after 25 seconds of useless passing and running around. It's why he was so successful with Angel too.
I have only watched a little this year but my guess is these freshmen just need to put their heads down and get to the rim.
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So...
We’ve got some freshmen that could be ballers in a couple years as long as they ignore oscar’s coaching.
oscar only sucks some of the time and might be good again in a couple years. See above.
We can’t take a chance on another coach because he might suck all of the time instead of just some of the time.
Okay, I’m convinced. Let’s keep him.
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sleep tight SLTH lovers
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We don't need someone to completely change the program, there's talent. His offense was too restrictive for last years team and it will be for these guys too, he needs to let them play. That Hoosiers bullshit was fine for Brown, Stokes, and Wade because those teams weren't particularly athletic, but this team is and he has two big men that seem to be good rim runners too. These dudes can't defend in the half court anyway so why make them?
I can’t tell if you are being serious about the 18 and 19 squad being not particularly athletic.
They were some fantastic basketball players but as a whole, they weren't particularly athletic. Rusty talked about it a bit. Barry could put his head down and create something, but it wasn't like he was getting to the rim at will, there was a reason he was a master of the midrange. Kam and Dean also again largely relied on the flow of the offense to get them shots, if we ever cleared out, which was hardly ever the end result of that was the ball going out to the perimeter and the movement of the ball created scoring chances. X's athleticism was overrated, sure he could jump and moved decently well for his size, but his game never relied on that athleticism, unless it was for the occasional oboard. Carti was athletic a.f. and he helped us when we had the big 3 but of course without them that athleticism didn't really mean much.
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The Hoosiers bullshit worked because Brown and Wade could generate offense in one on one matchups late in the shot clock after 25 seconds of useless passing and running around. It's why he was so successful with Angel too.
I have only watched a little this year but my guess is these freshmen just need to put their heads down and get to the rim.
It's so early for this but as good as Pack has been he doesn't show signs that he's either able to do this or he knows exactly when he's needed to go to the rim. Selton absolutely could look like someone who can and will breakdown a defense when he needs to, but this game was an outlier so we'll see. Rudi also looked game for putting his head down and getting to the basket. I'll have to see more before I can determine that this was more the ball moving to create these opportunities or them doing it themselves. In this game they seemed to get a lot from the baseline even Bradford created that space by flashing to the elbow. This makes me think that this is more of a factor of the offense than their ability to break down someone 1-on-1 but we'll see.
The game changer as far as shot creation is Bradford. He's the first reliable, back to the basket shot maker oscar has had here. Gip had some jyc qualities to his game that created opportunities, and Dean could back someone up if he had a size advantage, like against Brady Manek, but Davion seems to be the first guy we've had who is always available who we can dump it down to in a pinch. The most promising thing about him is that 5 games into his college career his very good hands are already apparent. As I'm sure you know any big man who can move and who has good hands can absolutely take over a college game if needed. I'm worried about his fitness level, especially with Ez on crutches, and I'm also worried about how susceptible he will be up getting pulled out defensively in a 5 out situation, but he might end up being the best player in this class.
It didn't work but I did like that oscar offense for defensed him late against Milwaukee because he recognized that they would pull him away from the lane on defense, so oscar put Antonio in so they could switch every screen. Again it didn't work, they pretty much scored at will late. Ez can stay on the floor in these situations, but he isn't nearly as reliable on the offensive end as Davion is.
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
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Marcus Foster was pretty athletic even after he got fat.
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Marcus Foster was pretty athletic even after he got fat.
Was he? I remembered his game as more similar to Pullen where he has that shifty create a shot with leverage type of skills not the I'm going to drive to the hoop and slam the ball over your head with my 40 inch vertical type of skills.
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Marcus Foster was pretty athletic even after he got fat.
Was he? I remembered his game as more similar to Pullen where he has that shifty create a shot with leverage type of skills not the I'm going to drive to the hoop and slam the ball over your head with my 40 inch vertical type of skills.
He could definitely get to the rim. He decided to try and become short Antoine Walker, but he could absolutely thunderdunk.
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/yMaAfbZBYow
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
This is pretty objectively untrue. He's stayed employed with kstate for like the last six years off of one class.
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It's very possible this freshman class is good enough that he repeats that trick.
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That dunk vs Gonzaga might be my peak boner ever, during a basketball game.
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I remember freshman Westicles throwing an alley oop to freshman Foster from half court for a dunk and thinking, "damn, they're going to be a superstar duo in a couple years."
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
edwards
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I remember freshman Westicles throwing an alley oop to freshman Foster from half court for a dunk and thinking, "damn, they're going to be a superstar duo in a couple years."
What could have been :cry:
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
edwards
See, everyone says this, but I never remember him executing a crazy dunk in action. He’s the most glorified athlete oat in practice, that never showed it on the court.
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
What's the point of being athletic if your game is comprised of shooting corner threes? Athleticism is only relevant if it's utilized.
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Oh, I agree, just thought we were doing an all athlete shoot off. Sutton is probably the most athletic we’ve seen. I hate B walks knees tho, could you imagine how bad ass he would have been before his 10th acl injury?
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Gimme David Hoskins
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Carti and Sneed are probably the most athletic players we’ve had since Walker and Sutton. Just my :th_twocents:
What's the point of being athletic if your game is comprised of shooting corner threes? Athleticism is only relevant if it's utilized.
I think athletic in this instance means handles more than anything right? I’m probably equating athleticism more to strength and speed than elite dribbling ability. X was as big strong and fast as it comes but he didn’t have the handles to consistently beat dudes 1 on 1 in the half court.
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Wes was at least as, and probably more, athletic than Sneed and maybe Carti
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Wes was at least as, and probably more, athletic than Sneed and maybe Carti
Marcus Foster’s Vince Carter type dunk over a dude on a breakaway was about as athletic of a play as I can ever remember a cats player doing. It felt like he was destined to be an NBA player but I guess he was too short.
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Wes was at least as, and probably more, athletic than Sneed and maybe Carti
Marcus Foster’s Vince Carter type dunk over a dude on a breakaway was about as athletic of a play as I can ever remember a cats player doing. It felt like he was destined to be an NBA player but I guess he was too short.
I’m like 99 percent sure I was watching that dunk with @ksupamplemousse at The Foundry (rip) in Westport. Was an unreal play
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Wes was at least as, and probably more, athletic than Sneed and maybe Carti
For sure, again his coach didn't feel it was relevant, he might be the most underutilized cat OAT.
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Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
Is there room for anyone in 2021 yet? The one dude we got has a lot of good offers.
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Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
Is there room for anyone in 2021 yet? The one dude we got has a lot of good offers.
I think technically the one is all they have open for 2021 but they will run off a few more I think. The one 2021 they have reclassified from 2022 so I think the expectation is he will likely redshirt in 2021.
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Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
Is there room for anyone in 2021 yet? The one dude we got has a lot of good offers.
I think technically the one is all they have open for 2021 but they will run off a few more I think. The one 2021 they have reclassified from 2022 so I think the expectation is he will likely redshirt in 2021.
There is no way they're going to keep both of those sophomore power forwards.
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This is weird.
Maybe the apathy factor is greater here in TITLETOWN but it feels like KSO is 10x more in the angry "fire oscar NOW" camp than gE right now.
KSO is full of reactionary emotional dweebs. we are much more level headed
I mean, gone are the days when gE used to bring this level of energy to the question of who would coach the 'Cats....
(https://www.cjonline.com/storyimage/KS/20120331/SPORTS/303319857/AR/0/AR-303319857.jpg?MaxW=600)
I still own www.firejohncurrie.com if you'd like to buy it.
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Yea I’m just going to agree to disagree on the athleticism point but I am LBBIQ. I do think oscar got 4 really good basketball players in Pack, Miguel, Bradford, and Kasubke but the 2019 class has been a major disappointment. He doesn’t have any instant impact guys lined up for 2021, so you basically have had 1 good class in 6 years and that crap will get ya fired.
Is there room for anyone in 2021 yet? The one dude we got has a lot of good offers.
I think technically the one is all they have open for 2021 but they will run off a few more I think. The one 2021 they have reclassified from 2022 so I think the expectation is he will likely redshirt in 2021.
There is no way they're going to keep both of those sophomore power forwards.
Might even jettison both of them