"Obamacare"

[puniraptor]

neither the free market nor insurance are mechanisms well suited to healthcare.

I propose a model where a person pays a subscription to a health provider to keep them healthy. As the person health declines, they pay less and if it falls below a certain baseline the health provider pays them.

Is j-care a single payer model?

more like thousands payer. as best I can tell its mandatory and nationalized but administered by local government as separate insurers.

[puniraptor]

neither the free market nor insurance are mechanisms well suited to healthcare.

I propose a model where a person pays a subscription to a health provider to keep them healthy. As the person health declines, they pay less and if it falls below a certain baseline the health provider pays them.

developing an app, seeking investors

[Dr Rick Daris]

In a stunning turn of events a bunch of socialist neophytes (who have never been subjected to the shitiness that is socialism) think socialist healthcare is best because it's socialist. A socialist study they read once reinforces their belief.

Meanwhile, back in reality, socialist medicaid/medicare are insolvent, offer substandard care from the bottom bucket of medical professionals, and are subsidized by real insurance.

None of what you just said is true and somewhere around 80% of it doesn't even make sense. You're absolutely clueless on the subject though so it was to be expected. Feel free to study up on what you're attempting to talk about and then correct everything though. Let me know if you need help trying to figure out the main points.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

It's all true.

[puniraptor]

FSD what do you think of my massively disruptive healthcare app?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

But it works in Sweden! And Norway! And Denmark! So of course it will work here!

No it doesn't, and no it won't.

It's an adorable fantasy they live in. Right down to homogenous all white people freudian slip.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

FSD what do you think of my massively disruptive healthcare app?

I haven't tried it yet. But I'm sure it would work better than Norway's minute clinic health system.

[Dr Rick Daris]

It's all true.

Yeah except for none of it is and you look really stupid for having written all of it. If you're up for trying to figure some of it out on your own,  I'd start with trying to understand what socialism I first and then go from there. Feel free to ask a random seventh grader or me if you get stuck.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

No, it's definitely all true.

[Dr Rick Daris]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

[puniraptor]

But it works in Sweden! And Norway! And Denmark! So of course it will work here!

No it doesn't, and no it won't.

It's an adorable fantasy they live in. Right down to homogenous all white people freudian slip.

do the muslim no-go zones get the socialist healthcare too?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

What part do you think was false? I can't tell over all the name calling.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

But it works in Sweden! And Norway! And Denmark! So of course it will work here!

No it doesn't, and no it won't.

It's an adorable fantasy they live in. Right down to homogenous all white people freudian slip.

do the muslim no-go zones get the socialist healthcare too?

In Sweden and Norway? Highly doubtful. They aren't even allowed to wear those masks.

[kim carnes]

What are China and Russia doing?   Those countries are more similar to ours.

[kim carnes]

What else should we nationalize?  Housing and higher education are ripe for the taking

[kim carnes]

I mean, everyone should have housing and real estate investors make a killing off the backs of the people

[The Big Train]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

What part do you think was false? I can't tell over all the name calling.

[Dr Rick Daris]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

What part do you think was false? I can't tell over all the name calling.

All of it was wrong. Start with the fact that neither Medicare or Medicaid are socialized medicine and go from there. let me know if you need it explained further.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

What part do you think was false? I can't tell over all the name calling.

All of it was wrong. Start with the fact that neither Medicare or Medicaid are socialized medicine and go from there. let me know if you need it explained further.

They are single payer systems, which was the point. If you don't think single payer (i.e., state run) is socialist in nature, I don't care. It is what it is.

I will say this, I am much smarter than you are.

[Dr Rick Daris]

No, it's definitely all true.

Ok. You don't want to further discuss how incredibly stupid what you wrote was. i get it and will leave you alone. It was beyond fanning level stupid though. Like really, really, really stupid.

What part do you think was false? I can't tell over all the name calling.

All of it was wrong. Start with the fact that neither Medicare or Medicaid are socialized medicine and go from there. let me know if you need it explained further.

They are single payer systems, which was the point. If you don't think single payer (i.e., state run) is socialist in nature, I don't care. It is what it is.

I will say this, I am much smarter than you are.

If your point was that medicare and Medicaid are not socialist programs and that they are single payer programs and you went about trying to make this point by typing what you did below, then I can assure you that you are not smarter than I am.

In a stunning turn of events a bunch of socialist neophytes (who have never been subjected to the shitiness that is socialism) think socialist healthcare is best because it's socialist. A socialist study they read once reinforces their belief.

Meanwhile, back in reality, socialist medicaid/medicare are insolvent, offer substandard care from the bottom bucket of medical professionals, and are subsidized by real insurance.

[Dr Rick Daris]

You were also very stupidly wrong about other things in that post. Let me know if you need help in figuring those out as well.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I think you are just really confused. A lot of that is your intellectual inferiority, which compounds your inability to divine sarcasm. Hence, this mindless charade.

You probably have a really narrow and rigid non-theoretical understanding of what socialism is, and also didn't recognize my comment was about the countries employing the system.

Everything I said was and is correct, which is reinforced by the fact you can't even begin to articulate why it was not. This exchange is very boring for me.

[sys]

rest assured, it's boring for all of us.

[Dr Rick Daris]

1) neither Medicare or Medicaid are socialized medicine. You said they were. They aren't. You were wrong and it's the kind of error that a complete dumbass would make. Sorry, but true.

2) neither are insolvent. You said they were. They aren't. You were wrong again.

3) you said both offer substandard care. They don't. overall, Medicaid does. Medicare does not. Again, wrong in your part.

4) the subsidized part of what you wrote. I'm 90% sure this is wrong as well but honestly don't even know what you are trying insinuate so can't be sure.



Every single thing you wrote was factually incorrect.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

1. Yes it is.
2. By its own calculations, it can't satisfy its future obligations/liabilities, the definition of insolvent.
3. It's certainly substandard when compared to the medical care you can obtain with private insurance. I suspect we're conflating medicare and medicaid a bit thos.
4. Real insurance indirectly subsidizes medicare/medicaid through higher reimbursement rates, ask any provider.

Bored to tears