George Zimmerman is a piece of crap

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Would you guys feel differently about this case if Zimmerman were a police officer?

i don't want to put words in people's mouths, but i'd imagine that at least 9 out of 10 of the "it was murder" people would feel differently.



as a practical matter, zimmerman was a cop, and everything else about the case were the same, he would not even be on trial.

As a cop with a bloody head and broken nose he would be put on desk duty for a few weeks until the internal investigation is done and cleared.

[ChiComCat]

Would you guys feel differently about this case if Zimmerman were a police officer?

i don't want to put words in people's mouths, but i'd imagine that at least 9 out of 10 of the "it was murder" people would feel differently.



as a practical matter, if zimmerman was a cop, and everything else about the case were the same, he would not even be on trial.

TM shouldn't be expected to respond to someone playing cop on their night off the same way he would an actual cop.

My issue is that GZ ignored a dispatcher telling him to stop.  At that point he became reckless in the situation and is at fault.  If the cop ignored an authority telling him to leave it alone, he would be just as reckless and at fault.

[sys]

If the cop ignored an authority telling him to leave it alone, he would be just as reckless and at fault.

it's like you've never seen a movie about a cop.

[ChiComCat]

If the cop ignored an authority telling him to leave it alone, he would be just as reckless and at fault.

it's like you've never seen a movie about a cop.

All of those cop movies should have sequels about consequences

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If the cop ignored an authority telling him to leave it alone, he would be just as reckless and at fault.

it's like you've never seen a movie about a cop.

All of those cop movies should have sequels about consequences

People don't need to worry about consequences any more. no such thing in the U.S. of A.

[star seed 7]

Who is dee dee?

The girl martin was on the phone with, she was on the stand wends/thurs.

[michigancat]

Would you guys feel differently about this case if Zimmerman were a police officer?

i don't want to put words in people's mouths, but i'd imagine that at least 9 out of 10 of the "it was murder" people would feel differently.



as a practical matter, if zimmerman was a cop, and everything else about the case were the same, he would not even be on trial.

I don't think a cop would have murdered Martin. Of course, this is the Sanford PD we're talking about.

[steve dave]

Everything the exact same but zim is a cop during the day? Yeah, I feel exactly the same. Maybe I'm the 1 out of 10.

[Dr Rick Daris]

if zim was a cop and he was in uniform and on duty and asked the kid to stop because he wanted to talk to him and the kid kept walking and he was like please stop and he ran and then they eventually came head to head and then out of nowhere the kid started just beating the crap out of the cop then I guess lethal force or whatever. none of that happened in this case. an adult male tracked down a kid in the dark. Idk but if I was a kid and some adult male(not cop) was following me and cutting through yards, i'd be scared as crap and would throw punches if the guy cornered me.

[CNS]

Would you guys feel differently about this case if Zimmerman were a police officer?

i don't want to put words in people's mouths, but i'd imagine that at least 9 out of 10 of the "it was murder" people would feel differently.



as a practical matter, if zimmerman was a cop, and everything else about the case were the same, he would not even be on trial.

I think it fair to say that both parties likely would have acted, or reacted, vastly different if zimm was a cop.

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[sys]

I don't think a cop would have murdered Martin.

pfft.

[puniraptor]

If Trayvon was a cop, he would have blasted GZ as soon as he cleared his car door.

[wetwillie]

I don't think a cop would have murdered Martin.

pfft.

Yea made me chuckle.

[Paul Moscow]

if zim was a cop and he was in uniform and on duty and asked the kid to stop because he wanted to talk to him and the kid kept walking and he was like please stop and he walked and then they eventually came head to head and then out if nowhere the kid started just beating the crap out of the cop then I guess lethal force or whatever. none of that happened in this case. an adult male tracked down a kid in the dark. Idk but if I was a kid and some adult male(not cop) was following me and cutting through yards, is be scared as crap and would throw punches if the guy cornered me.

Add to that the fact that Zimmerman thought TM was subhuman evident by his own words, "these assholes" "what are YOU doing here" Not saying its related to race, but he definitely was in hero-mode, ridding the earth of its scum.

With that frame of mind seems likely that when the encounter did happen that Zimmerman was in an aggressor state of mind. Even then, you can't blame TM for being the first to initiate the physical contact - for all he knew this sweating, clearly agitated man standing in the darkness had finally caught up to him.

[star seed 7]

Well the subhuman thing is a bit of a leap.

[Paul Moscow]

Well the subhuman thing is a bit of a leap.

What urge would you get if you thought you caught someone breaking into your neighbors place? I've known many people in Kansas that grab the nearest baseball bat and go on the pursuit. crap, I've seen people do that for someone who drives too fast around the cul-de-sac.

Once you've pinned someone as a criminal, thief, cheater, etc, etc, they become something less than human to you. Even normal people without histories of violence (not Zimmerman) succumb to it. It's intoxicating.

[Mr Bread]

Well the subhuman thing is a bit of a leap.

Lol, no.  He called him "you" with emphasis for eff's sake.  You wouldn't even talk to a dog like that.  Get your crap together seven, you're slipping. 

[steve dave]

haha

[Mr Bread]

On a related note, Paul Moscow apparently knows a lot of rough ridin' weirdos.

[Paul Moscow]

On a related note, Paul Moscow apparently knows a lot of rough ridin' weirdos.

Yeah...suburbs

[puniraptor]

Paul, what's your masked vigilante name?

[Mr Bread]

On a related note, Paul Moscow apparently knows a lot of rough ridin' weirdos.

Yeah...suburbs

Stay safe.

[michigancat]

I don't think a cop would have murdered Martin.

pfft.

Yea made me chuckle.

Listen, you dumbfucks. If an off-duty cop chases down Trayvon without identifying that he's a cop, gets his ass kicked and then blasts him, you bet your ass I'd be calling it murder.

The thing is, a uniformed cop would have acted completely differently, and in turn, so would Trayvon. So congrats on creating one of the dumbest, most irrelevant hypotheticals in history.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

I don't think a cop would have murdered Martin.

pfft.

Yea made me chuckle.

Listen, you dumbfucks. If an off-duty cop chases down Trayvon without identifying that he's a cop, gets his ass kicked and then blasts him, you bet your ass I'd be calling it murder.

The thing is, a uniformed cop would have acted completely differently, and in turn, so would Trayvon. So congrats on creating one of the dumbest, most irrelevant hypotheticals in history.

What in the world 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Pretty big puss,

Zimmerman was a patient of Lyndzee Folgate, a physician’s assistant, since 2011. Here’s some points she addressed from her medical record of him when she treated ZImmerman’s condition. In short, there were minor injuries:

Zimmerman’s nose was straight, not broken. X-rays showed.
He didn’t have any kind of trauma to the head. He denied having a headache to her.
His lacerations were small and not deep— 2 centimeters and .5 centimeters. Stitches weren’t necessary.
There was no blood in his ears or inside his nose.
He was 5’7 and 204 pounds—overweight.
Recommended Zimmerman see an ENT Ear Nose Throat specialist. He said he wasn’t going to go.
He said he felt nauseous, which was classified as psychological
Her past records reveal of Zimmerman reveal:

"He started intense exercise with MMA. He was involved with mixed martial arts 3 times a week."

You know how they say a picture's worth a thousand words? Well, here's 2000 words-worth of pictures presented during the cross-exam of Ms. Folgate (and lots of other times, too):



Now the state did exactly the right thing to put Folgate on to minimize GZ's injuries, but the pictures are likely to speak louder to the jury. The dude got beat up. The state can talk all it wants about how "superifical" the injuries were - they've still got to show beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ had no reasonable belief of imminent grave bodily harm, and these pictures make that pretty hard to do.