"Obamacare"

[chum1]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed. 

[p1k3]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed.

The poor get poorer and so does the middle class!

[chum1]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed.

The poor get poorer and so does the middle class!

Nah, middle class people still have coverage through their employers.  If it's too expensive, it's not because of Obamacare.

[p1k3]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed.

The poor get poorer and so does the middle class!

Nah, middle class people still have coverage through their employers.  If it's too expensive, it's not because of Obamacare.

but now the unions don't even want part of it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-11/and-now-unions-are-angry-obamacare-afl-cio-press-healthcare-law-changes

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed.

The poor get poorer and so does the middle class!

Nah, middle class people still have coverage through their employers.  If it's too expensive, it's not because of Obamacare.

Its pretty well documented that obamacare is causing employers to drop health coverage, where have you been?

[chum1]

"Low income" people are going to get absolutely screwed.

The poor get poorer and so does the middle class!

Nah, middle class people still have coverage through their employers.  If it's too expensive, it's not because of Obamacare.

Its pretty well documented that obamacare is causing employers to drop health coverage, where have you been?

No, not really.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Welcoke to Facepalm City, population Chum

[chum1]

Welcoke to Facepalm City, population Chum

So, Facepalm City is a place for people that make other people facepalm?  And I'm the only person that makes other people facepalm?  Or are there multiple cities for people that make other people faceplam?  If that's the case, why am I the only one in my city?  This is all so confusing.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Welcoke to Facepalm City, population Chum

So, Facepalm City is a place for people that make other people facepalm?  And I'm the only person that makes other people facepalm?  Or are there multiple cities for people that make other people faceplam?  If that's the case, why am I the only one in my city?  This is all so confusing.

my guess is that facepalm city is just a city in facepalm and that you are the only person that lives in it but there are a bunch of other towns in facepalm that have multiple residents that make other people facepalm. think oklahoma and oklahoma city. now is it kind of ironic that facepalm city is the smallest city in facepalm? yeah i suppose. maybe it's a city within a city though. like maybe facepalm city is the address for the governor of facepalm or something and you just live there because you are the governor. that probably makes the most sense when you stop to think about it.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Sometimes, when you get it, you just get it.

 

[AbeFroman]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/health/obamacare-open-enrollment/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Stud.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/health/obamacare-open-enrollment/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Stud.

Huge out of pocket expense compared to what most people have now. I also like how the poor can afford to have better health plans than the middle class. good for them.

[The Big Train]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

[OregonSmock]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

[The Big Train]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

I am in the industry beems, I know how the enrollment process works and what it entails.  I'm just saying you will be surprised by how many people look at it and go, well eff that noise when they see what all they have to put into the app process.

[OregonSmock]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

I am in the industry beems, I know how the enrollment process works and what it entails.  I'm just saying you will be surprised by how many people look at it and go, well eff that noise when they see what all they have to put into the app process.

What will people have to divulge now that they didn't already have to with their current healthcare provider?  The only thing I could think of would be income tax returns, which would provide proof of income to the insurance companies for people who qualify for subsidies. 

[Emo EMAW]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

I am in the industry beems, I know how the enrollment process works and what it entails.  I'm just saying you will be surprised by how many people look at it and go, well eff that noise when they see what all they have to put into the app process.

What will people have to divulge now that they didn't already have to with their current healthcare provider?  The only thing I could think of would be income tax returns, which would provide proof of income to the insurance companies for people who qualify for subsidies.

Some patient applications TODAY ask if he/she owns or has access to firearms.  They're already pretty invasive.  But maybe they'll get better?

[OregonSmock]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

I am in the industry beems, I know how the enrollment process works and what it entails.  I'm just saying you will be surprised by how many people look at it and go, well eff that noise when they see what all they have to put into the app process.

What will people have to divulge now that they didn't already have to with their current healthcare provider?  The only thing I could think of would be income tax returns, which would provide proof of income to the insurance companies for people who qualify for subsidies.

Some patient applications TODAY ask if he/she owns or has access to firearms.  They're already pretty invasive.  But maybe they'll get better?

How is that any more invasive than asking if you've ever had an STD or HIV?  Access to firearms leads to an increased risk of death statistically.  Seems like something a life insurance company might want to know about before insuring someone. 


 

[Emo EMAW]

Just wait until people see what all they have to divulge to the government through enrollment.  This alone will turn a lot or people away because they will believe it is a major invasion of privacy.

This is probably the most laughable talking point yet.  Well done.

I am in the industry beems, I know how the enrollment process works and what it entails.  I'm just saying you will be surprised by how many people look at it and go, well eff that noise when they see what all they have to put into the app process.

What will people have to divulge now that they didn't already have to with their current healthcare provider?  The only thing I could think of would be income tax returns, which would provide proof of income to the insurance companies for people who qualify for subsidies.

Some patient applications TODAY ask if he/she owns or has access to firearms.  They're already pretty invasive.  But maybe they'll get better?

How is that any more invasive than asking if you've ever had an STD or HIV?  Access to firearms leads to an increased risk of death statistically.  Seems like something a life insurance company might want to know about before insuring someone. 


 

Seems pretty invasive.  I wouldn't answer it; a lot of people don't.

[AbeFroman]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/health/obamacare-open-enrollment/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Stud.

Huge out of pocket expense compared to what most people have now. I also like how the poor can afford to have better health plans than the middle class. good for them.

Yeah but at least he's a K-State fan.

[Stupid Fitz]

Bro of mine works for a company that has bitchin benefits.  They were just informed that they have to reduce the awesomeness of said benefits or they will get nailed by the "cadillac plan tax".  Never heard of this and if true 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Bro of mine works for a company that has bitchin benefits.  They were just informed that they have to reduce the awesomeness of said benefits or they will get nailed by the "cadillac plan tax".  Never heard of this and if true 

Yeah, I think that starts up in a year or two. We're all going to have much shittier plans. Thankfully some groups have been exempted from the taxes, so only regular people are going to be paying extra for good healthcare.

[wetwillie]

I've become bombarded with pointless mail from my employer covering their ass with new disclosures and forms from this. Thanks Obama.

[sys]

Bro of mine works for a company that has bitchin benefits.  They were just informed that they have to reduce the awesomeness of said benefits or they will get nailed by the "cadillac plan tax".  Never heard of this and if true 

you act like that's a negative.  it's not.  there's no earthly reason that the public should subsidize the overconsumption of health care by high-salaried workers.

[Rage Against the McKee]

What qualifies as a "cadillac plan"? Is it just a low deductible and copay or is there more to it?