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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Ptolemy on January 24, 2017, 11:55:45 PM
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jan/24/rape-16-year-old-girl-reported-kus-mccarthy-hall-h/
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jan/24/rape-16-year-old-girl-reported-kus-mccarthy-hall-h/
Bill should be able to keep scum out of his Chicken Palace.
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Crimes reported to KU police typically are posted publicly, to the department’s online daily crime log, within a few days. The alleged rape at McCarthy Hall was not posted until a few weeks after it was reported.
Hmmm....must have been an oversight.
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Interesting that Udoke "Broke" his wrist in practice a couple days after this alleged event.
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They are so big time, could you imagine K-State being able to pull this off??!? :sdeek:
Keary would not specify why posting the McCarthy report was delayed. However, generally, he said that if police believe posting an incident could interfere with an ongoing investigation, they wait to do so until that’s no longer a concern.
A child in need of care, determined to be a runaway, was reported to KU police shortly after 4 a.m. Dec. 18 at McCarthy Hall, according to the online crime log.
That report appeared on the log within a few days.
At the time, KU police Deputy Chief James Anguiano said that the runaway was picked up, which was indicated as an “arrest” on the log. He said he could not release any more information because the matter involved a juvenile.
Keary would not confirm whether the runaway report was connected to the alleged rape.
The police report in the runaway case, also requested and obtained by the Journal-World, does not list any information about the runaway. However, the witnesses in the runaway case were the same two women interviewed in the rape investigation and a sixth KU basketball player.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jan/24/rape-16-year-old-girl-reported-kus-mccarthy-hall-h/
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Nope, nothing to see here. Just a runaway juvenile, can't tell you anymore because it involves a juvenile. Definitely not using it to hide the fact that we are investigating members of our #1 ranked basketball team for raping a minor.
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I thought Jayhawk Towers was the rape tower. Does this new building displace Jayhawk Towers as the spot where KU ignores rapes by its athletes?
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i know it's fun to joke and hate ku and stuff but a kid got raped
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i know it's fun to joke and hate ku and stuff but a kid got raped
worse when you see an even younger child involved. If this doesn't spark something....my goodness.
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Just a runaway 'clams, nbd these kids just need more of bill's mentoring. Better not to shake up the environment right now
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Markief had a 16 year old girl with him when he wrecked Pollard's Tahoe at 1 in the morning, i don't understand it
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Nothing to see here. 16 is the age of consent in KS, well if there is an actual consent given.
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Let me tell you a little something about Lawrence and how the pecking order worked at Eudora High School. When I was a sophomore, our girls were driving to Lawrence on the weekends to be with KU guys, which meant we had to date younger. So when I was a senior, we dated our freshman and sophomores and our Senior girls were either already pregos from some KU dude or had chlamydia. One or the other or both.
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Timhawk on Phog:
and why is a 16 year old girl in there getting drunk and high in the first place....
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wasn't Lester Earl pulled over in Eudora at 3 am? That may have been before your time WC08
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wasn't Lester Earl pulled over in Eudora at 3 am? That may have been before your time WC08
Yes. Rush's car broke down there too one time and my friend and his dad had to give him a ride back to Lawrence. WTF would you be in Lawrence, other than, well, you know...
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I mean they probably came in town for the weed and the meth too, but still.
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wasn't Lester Earl pulled over in Eudora at 3 am? That may have been before your time WC08
Off topic, but Earl's son is a really good player at Bishop Miege and being recruited by everyone. And another of his son's is a freshman WR at LSU.
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I thought Jayhawk Towers was the rape tower. Does this new building displace Jayhawk Towers as the spot where KU ignores rapes by its athletes?
:impatient:
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16 year old drinking and using drugs in a college dorm? Where are the parents?
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I know for a fact nick collision requested nudes from (and recieved) and later had sexual relations with a 15yr old during his last year at ku.
It's just the Lawrence culture. It's really sad what goes on there
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wasn't Lester Earl pulled over in Eudora at 3 am? That may have been before your time WC08
Off topic, but Earl's son is a really good player at Bishop Miege and being recruited by everyone. And another of his son's is a freshman WR at LSU.
my expert review of the son's youtube is he looks like a fine player but didn't get Dad's incredible explosion - this youtube of the 1996 McD's Dunk constest shows Lester outshining Kobe Bryant
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHFqAXf6RLk[/youtube]
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I thought Jayhawk Towers was the rape tower. Does this new building displace Jayhawk Towers as the spot where KU ignores rapes by its athletes?
:impatient:
It's much easier to keep track of this if you consider every tower on their campus to be a rape tower.
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this thing is going to be a mess
https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/824324649827893250
https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/824324934105235463
https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/824325252868087808
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NOTHING WILL COME OF THIS. Except the teenage girl being vilified of course.
Bill Self is sleazier than Calipari.
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Acknowledging that a victim puts themselves in a risky situation isn't blaming the victim. That's like saying if a hooker is murdered by a John, that particular situation wasn't completely unavoidable. No, it's not the victim's fault, but at the same time, a person can take steps to reduce the odds of something bad happening to them. Fathers teach their daughters that all the time. A 16 year old girl has no business being in a college dorm, but residents of that dorm have no business allowing a 16 year old girl in the door. It's just a bad deal all the way around.
:lol:
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Acknowledging that a victim puts themselves in a risky situation isn't blaming the victim. That's like saying if a hooker is murdered by a John, that particular situation wasn't completely unavoidable. No, it's not the victim's fault, but at the same time, a person can take steps to reduce the odds of something bad happening to them. Fathers teach their daughters that all the time. A 16 year old girl has no business being in a college dorm, but residents of that dorm have no business allowing a 16 year old girl in the door. It's just a bad deal all the way around.
:lol:
I would pay to fight that person IRL
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I find it very hard to believe that the players would be involved in something like this the same week Bragg was cleared from assault. Plus the fact that the players most likely didn't get back to the dorms until 11pm or later.
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This is so gross
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yep, if there's one thing as a ku fan that is hard to believe, it's that a ku basketball player would rape someone
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:frown: I hope justice is served.
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I am so disgusted I cannot make a joke about dax predicting this like 5 years ago
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Kietzman has now listed each of the names of the KU players about 5 times. So f**king phony. I hate that guy.
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Keitz's fault. :frown:
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Oh man. Looks like the AD finally had to step in:
KU denies transfer of football player who was suspended at Boise State
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article128702224.html#storylink=cpy
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Like, I'm reading their thread with so much WTF in my head.
I kind of think they're all trying to say the players that are named as "witnesses" did nothing wrong because they're not named as suspects or something, so it's a nonissue.
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:frown: I hope justice is served.
I would be shocked if the charges aren't dropped soon.
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Acknowledging that a victim puts themselves in a risky situation isn't blaming the victim. That's like saying if a hooker is murdered by a John, that particular situation wasn't completely unavoidable. No, it's not the victim's fault, but at the same time, a person can take steps to reduce the odds of something bad happening to them. Fathers teach their daughters that all the time. A 16 year old girl has no business being in a college dorm, but residents of that dorm have no business allowing a 16 year old girl in the door. It's just a bad deal all the way around.
:lol:
I feel so gross reading that.
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:frown: I hope justice is served.
I would be shocked if the charges aren't dropped soon.
Have charges even been filed? I thought we didn't even know the suspect yet
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:frown: I hope justice is served.
I would be shocked if the charges aren't dropped soon.
Have charges even been filed? I thought we didn't even know the suspect yet
Yeah, good point. They may never even get filed.
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Can someone go put a bullet in KK's head please. I have been told we have an expert team of Phog lawyers ready to defend you pro bono.
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:frown: I hope justice is served.
I would be shocked if the charges aren't dropped soon.
Have charges even been filed? I thought we didn't even know the suspect yet
Yeah, good point. They may never even get filed.
This seems the most likely. It's been over a month and there were 8-9 witnesses. The cover up has already happened
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It is a very efficient cover up of a heinous crime
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Seems like an insane stretch to believe Bragg had to sit out for getting beat up by a girl but we are fielding a team of potential rape suspects and Self knew about it the whole time. This, however, is a day KK lives for. Doesn't have to be true, just getting to insinuate and speculate is all he needs to light the phones up. Don't give his show the oxygen it craves when you know all he is trying to do is drag these kids name through the mud for the simple fact that they play for KU.
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Their hate of BITB is daxian in it's completeness and thoroughness.
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I think ripping BITB is so much better than blaming the 16 year old
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I think ripping BITB is so much better than blaming the 16 year old
I thought they were done. :frown:
This, what the **** was a high school junior doing getting drunk in McCarthy?
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Acknowledging that a victim puts themselves in a risky situation isn't blaming the victim. That's like saying if a hooker is murdered by a John, that particular situation wasn't completely unavoidable. No, it's not the victim's fault, but at the same time, a person can take steps to reduce the odds of something bad happening to them. Fathers teach their daughters that all the time. A 16 year old girl has no business being in a college dorm, but residents of that dorm have no business allowing a 16 year old girl in the door. It's just a bad deal all the way around.
:lol:
I feel so gross reading that.
At some point, 16 year olds need to be held accountable for their own actions. Including, but not limited to, being raped.
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From Mrs. Wacky. :frown: They hypnotized her too.
omg of course they have to say the bball dorm when its most likely not even related to the players. trash reporting.
To be fair, I don't think she took the time to read the full article I sent her.
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:frown:
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This is all absolutely disgusting.
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The disbelief on their end doesn't bother me that much. No suspect has been named yet and it's at least possible that the KU basketball team wasn't involved in this rape. The victim-blaming is just pure garbage, though. I guess to be fair, Tim seems to be just about the only one blaming the victim and most of them seem to agree that he's a piece of crap.
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and so again, sneaking out is stupid and going to the student athlete dorm as a high schooler is ignorant. Period. It isn't her fault for getting raped OBVIOUSLY but FOR SURE DON'T GO TO A ******* COLLEGE DORM AT 16 YEARS OLD.
Go experience a few dumb high school parties first. No 16 year old is ready for college.
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Pretty sure he thinks college = finally ready for rape = It's ok
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16 year olds cannot enter into a binding contract, but I guess can consent to assault if they go to the wrong place.
where did she buy the booze? they should prosecute that liquor store
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/online/five-kansas-basketball-players-interviewed-about-alleged-rape-of-16-year-old-girl-at-dorms/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon
This article is 1hour old. It says the only witnesses interviewed were basketball players.
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Let me tell you a little something about Lawrence and how the pecking order worked at Eudora High School. When I was a sophomore, our girls were driving to Lawrence on the weekends to be with KU guys, which meant we had to date younger. So when I was a senior, we dated our freshman and sophomores and our Senior girls were either already pregos from some KU dude or had chlamydia. One or the other or both.
Ha. I was right.
I'm just shocked anybody is surprised high school girls try to hang out with college guys. When I was at KU we always said it would suck to be a boy at LHS because the hottest girls there would rather date a KU guy. Usually a freshman or sophomore, but still.
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It's completely fine for our players to invite a 16 year old to our dorm hall.
It's extremely mumped up for the 16 year old to actually go!
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So are you saying you would willingly get drunk at 16 years old and go and party with a bunch of 19 year old black guys???????
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It's completely fine for our players to invite a 16 year old to our dorm hall.
It's extremely mumped up for the 16 year old to actually go!
Giving them booze is pretty gross too
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And narcotics!
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So are you saying you would willingly get drunk at 16 years old and go and party with a bunch of 19 year old black guys???????
Wow, this post drops the bar onto the floor.
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If any HS girls showed up at my frat we told them to GTFO because we weren't creepy AF
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I would have 100% gotten drunk with the KU basketball team in their dorm as a High School Junior. Now, I am a guy. But I would be shocked if most High School Junior girls that drink wouldn't be up for that as well.
You would want anal rape? Wow
This guy thinking a high school guy can't hang out with his hawks without getting raped in the ass is pretty great.
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
They are disgusting
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
NO rough ridin' WAY
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I don't get how the people who seem to think their team is incapable of not raping anyone who comes by can still be fans of that team.
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
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Are we even sure something happened. Or is the victim making it up?
A runaway 16 year old girl finds her way to the men's KUBB dorm. How did that even happen?
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guys quit giving their website traffic
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Are we even sure something happened. Or is the victim making it up?
A runaway 16 year old girl finds her way to the men's KUBB dorm. How did that even happen?
she went in with a resident
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Back in the 70's, there was a sexual assault at Edwards Hall, then the football dorm, and that pretty much led to not only the football dorm being shut down, but was one of the cornerstones to ending athletic dorms as they existed then entirely.
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It is really fascinating (in a train wreck sort of way) to watch how people in supposedly progressive educational environments respond to rape allegations against their school's athletes. It never ceases to amaze me.
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How long until they track down the victim's social media accounts and start grading her pics?
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How long until they track down the victim's social media accounts and start grading her pics?
once charges are brought
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Half the residents of that hall are mens BB players? The 6 witnesses interviewed are mens BB players? My greatest concern is that one of the mens BB players committed the rape, and that the rest are aligning their stories to get the suspect off the hook. The array of witnesses tells me that it had to be someone from the BB team.
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What you really need to know, is it was December 17th. The students that live there, had already gone home. The players were still there because they were still playing ball.
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Half the residents of that hall are mens BB players? The 6 witnesses interviewed are mens BB players? My greatest concern is that one of the mens BB players committed the rape, and that the rest are aligning their stories to get the suspect off the hook. The array of witnesses tells me that it had to be someone from the BB team.
yeah no crap DD
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I'd love to know how Karl and Karla feel about this.
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
That's as insulting to men as it is to women. Holy crap. I'm rarely insulted and I'd seriously throw down with this guy.
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
That's as insulting to men as it is to women. Holy crap. I'm rarely insulted and I'd seriously throw down with this guy.
Pretty sure he was talking about black men, not all men.
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that thug lightfoot
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It's not victim blaming if you practically walk into the jungle with meat strapped all over your body.
That's as insulting to men as it is to women. Holy crap. I'm rarely insulted and I'd seriously throw down with this guy.
Pretty sure he was talking about black men, not all men.
Doesn't really make that any better. At any rate he's saying that (black) men can't control themselves around a 16 year old and she's basically hurting for a rape from a group of unruly (black) men. The whole statement is :barf:
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Here's what I think will happen. First, school was out (so most non-bball students gone). The fact that this happened in the bball palace is just no crazy coincidence. (And, for those other half of students that live in there....can you imagine how much they're vetted to avoided this?)
Anyway, there is a huge child sex trafficking problem in Kansas. Huge. Most are runaways. I think the KU bball program runners (we all know they have them) hooked the players up like always, and this one happened to be a minor. The runners paid the girl.....deal went down....it was found out she was minor.
KU will come out and say they had no idea the girl was 16. They'll plead ignorance. That way they can't be charged with providing drugs and alcohol to a minor, etc. Bottom line, girl will be in trouble, along with possibly the head of the prostitution, if it can be determined.
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I'm fine with the MCMW approach if it's cash, cars, etc. This is just rough ridin' terrible, there's no excuse for this.
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There's got to be cameras at access points, lobby, hallways, etc., right? They have to know who was involved. Is this the site of the Bragg incident?
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6 witnesses to a rape sounds like 7 perps to me
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has she been arrested yet?
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I'd love to know how Karl and Karla feel about this.
"Wut" Karl
5 pints in on the chunky monkey . . . Karla
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I bet the familial economic profile of the "other male residents" in that dorm would be fantastic reading.
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6 witnesses to a rape sounds like 7 perps to me
Yea seriously. Maybe try and stop it. What were they thinking? Good grief.
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I'm convinced that any investigation of that program would result in revelations leading to boatloads of resignations, a season's worth of Nightline episodes, and the end of exceptional recruiting (and a one-way ticket to the MVC for a uni that has little else to offer). Do competing ADs who'wonder' how the program always punches 3 classes above JCCC's/Lawrentucky's weight on the recruiting trail have any recourse aside from hiring private investigators? How many top-5 recruiting classes before people start to ask serious questions?
Could it be that the nation's best recruits are lured to a mediocre college in a Kansas college town BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE JAYHAWK SPIRIT?! It must be that car-salesman charisma.
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Kids, they're gonna bury this thing so hard.
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Phog locked the thread. Enablers
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I don't care if you have balls so big that you have to put them in a basketball or if you think you are royality living in a palace, if you rape or stand there and cheer, you should go to prison. This dorm is nothing more than free will whore house and beer joint for spoiled athletes. No woman, kid especially, should be raped. I would cut a rapist wangdoleys off with a butter knife and soak the wound in acid.
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Kids, they're gonna bury this thing so hard.
I see what you did here and I appreciate the effort
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Kids, they're gonna bury this thing so hard.
I see what you did here and I appreciate the effort
It was not intentional.
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I'm convinced that any investigation of that program would result in revelations leading to boatloads of resignations, a season's worth of Nightline episodes, and the end of exceptional recruiting (and a one-way ticket to the MVC for a uni that has little else to offer). Do competing ADs who'wonder' how the program always punches 3 classes above JCCC's/Lawrentucky's weight on the recruiting trail have any recourse aside from hiring private investigators? How many top-5 recruiting classes before people start to ask serious questions?
Could it be that the nation's best recruits are lured to a mediocre college in a Kansas college town BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE JAYHAWK SPIRIT?! It must be that car-salesman charisma.
"No way that will happen. Bill Self is a God in Lawrence"
-Art Briles
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6 witnesses to a rape sounds like 7 perps to me
Yea seriously. Maybe try and stop it. What were they thinking? Good grief.
You don't actually have to see the rape happen to be a witness. I really hope there weren't just 6 basketball players standing around watching because that is too disgusting to fathom.
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Phog locked the thread. Enablers
And started posting dog pics to sweep it under the rug :frown:
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Can't KK be sued for all of his baseless accusations? I don't listen to him, so I'm sure he is very careful how he uses his words.
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I'm not convinced the 16 year old is telling the truth. That could be one reason for why the reporting of the event was slow.
A run away 16 year old with two 19 year olds at a men's KUbb dorm could just be seeking attention.
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Phog locked the thread. Enablers
And started posting dog pics to sweep it under the rug :frown:
They stooped pretty low in that thread. "Hey lets post pictures of dogs so we don't have to have a serious conversation about sexual violence involving our basketball program. If we try hard enough maybe it will all go away." Pretty awful.
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Does anyone else think it is a coincidence this all came out the same week we play Kentucky? I mean it happened a month ago, and is just now coming out so conveniently as we embark on our biggest game of the season. Someone is playing facking games to distract the team.
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Does anyone else think it is a coincidence this all came out the same week we play Kentucky? I mean it happened a month ago, and is just now coming out so conveniently as we embark on our biggest game of the season. Someone is playing facking games to distract the team.
Yep. Rape games. Obviously KU Basketball is the victim here.
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The thing is, an unbelievably large percentage of KU fans are socially awkward weirdos that have never really had anything to be proud of as a person. They've never played sports/been good at them, yet they live and breathe for KU basketball to be happy, like they're part of the team and the teams achievements/failures are their own. If their only form of happiness is threatened to be taken away or looked down upon, they'll stoop to crazy low levels to make that not happen.
It's all really sad.
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Not me, Shooter. I can throw a basketball over that Hill, yonder.
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The thing is, an unbelievably large percentage of KU fans are socially awkward weirdos that have never really had anything to be proud of as a person. They've never played sports/been good at them, yet they live and breathe for KU basketball to be happy, like they're part of the team and the teams achievements/failures are their own. If their only form of happiness is threatened to be taken away or looked down upon, they'll stoop to crazy low levels to make that not happen.
It's all really sad.
Tbh ku basketball seems to be a chief source of unhappiness with ku basketball fans. They are never happy about anything
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I'm gonna take a lap real quick, I got emotional and blacked out there for a second.
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not even go emawing, some of those comments are really really terrible. I haven't read through that thread, but goodness gracious if their own posters didn't PI them (the owners of those comments) off the board.
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Not me, Shooter. I can throw a basketball over that Hill, yonder.
Post a dog pic next time
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A couple of the Phog comments are funny, though, proving that not all fans of little brother lack a sense of humor:
Drug paraphernalia was found and listed under Mason’s name, which might explain why Mason thought he was 6’6” driving into the lane at WVU.
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zombie35 wrote:
Does anyone else think it is a coincidence this all came out the same week we play Kentucky? I mean it happened a month ago, and is just now coming out so conveniently as we embark on our biggest game of the season. Someone is playing facking games to distract the team.
It's obvious that UK either: (a) planted a deep undercover operative in the local po-po; or (b) sent a 16-year-old girl into McCarthy Hall. There are no other logical explanations.
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zombie35 wrote:
Does anyone else think it is a coincidence this all came out the same week we play Kentucky? I mean it happened a month ago, and is just now coming out so conveniently as we embark on our biggest game of the season. Someone is playing facking games to distract the team.
It's obvious that UK either: (a) planted a deep undercover operative in the local po-po; or (b) sent a 16-year-old girl into McCarthy Hall. There are no other logical explanations.
Well this is quite reasoned and not insane at all.
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The thing is, an unbelievably large percentage of KU fans are socially awkward weirdos that have never really had anything to be proud of as a person. They've never played sports/been good at them, yet they live and breathe for KU basketball to be happy, like they're part of the team and the teams achievements/failures are their own. If their only form of happiness is threatened to be taken away or looked down upon, they'll stoop to crazy low levels to make that not happen.
It's all really sad.
Karl wants to meet you at the Phog Allen statue, friend.
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Nothin like rape to help the team chemistry...
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Nothin like rape to help the team chemistry...
Of course it brought them closer together. That's how co-conspirators work.
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Nothin like rape to help the team chemistry...
When a team and the media starts talking about rape as a "distraction," it makes me very very ragey. The fans' reactions to this is very much like Baylor. JFC what is wrong with people?
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Looking at the roster, two pretty solid conduits for cash exchange, one is Self's kid, and another is a walkon from Leavenworth whose family owns a substantial signage business that's done work for KU athletics. In the latter's defense he actually has some decent bball credentials. The 3rd might be a doctors kid, but can't confirm, he's on the team for academics.
Put them in the bball dorm, and open the bank. Virtually untraceable and loaded with plausible deniability. Nice work (again) KU. Didn't see the land developers kid, so he must have graduated.
Room rate is easily the highest on campus, but the potential per person rate isn't that bad. Correction, the per person rate is easily the highest on campus. Exclusively for the well heeled booster kid, or the highly financial aid laden. Like I said, I suspect the non-athlete roster of residents reads like a whose-who of WEF kids/grandkids.
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Is now the time where we become more selective with the "S" and "C" in TSC ?
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Yes. Go with the Big Blue cats
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Observo's:
1. Man he looks rough
2. These events have probably taken the fun out of banging chicks in that downtown L-Town apartment/loft, T&P's on that Bill
3. Going to be interesting to see how the graying is melded (or not) into the weave
4. Bill needs to reign in the Penn State like comments from KU fans, takes the fun out of TSC'ing and RCJH'ing
5. Bill says if any of the "kids" were involved they wouldn't be playing, so it's settled guys, move along.
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They had a guy transfer out around that time btw.
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Evan Maxwell
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article123997574.html
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Fantastic word play Bill Self!!
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So, sounds like Self's press conference was super awkward and he kept getting mad at questions about this whole ordeal? hmmmm.
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I would be mad too. Do you not realize how run of the mill it is for half of your basketball team to be questioned in a rape investigation? The crap happen all day every day ever-y-where.
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Listened to the presser. Really good to hear the typical pom-pom wavers in there trying to change the subject.
Fantastic air cover media right there!
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How many times a year does the phog put out a call for a crack squawk legal team to sue bitb?
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None of them know a decent lawyer. All they have is a DUI guy to write it off their records.
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https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/824821066895912960
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Jesus
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Quite a team he has this year
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Bill has let this get on the wrong side of the MCMW bell curve
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Udoke "hurt" his wrist like 2 days after the allegations....No need to suspend a player if he's hurt.
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So is Showturd gone for good? The bad water in the River that caused brainworms in Foster, Harris, and Slowfeet to make.them go goofy must have made it to Lawrence.
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AP article nowhere to be seen on ESPN main/MBB pages despite flood of other material on the same team (though it's the 1st hit when you search for 'ku basketball rape'). Comments disabled for articles on KC Star/Wichita eagle sites. Nothing to see here, folks. Just keep moving along.
Please feel free to visit/comment: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18554345/police-investigating-alleged-rape-kansas-jayhawks-dorm (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18554345/police-investigating-alleged-rape-kansas-jayhawks-dorm)
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Well the Star/Eagle has gone full Matt Taitian Fan Boy. So no surprise that comments are disabled.
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Hate to say it, but Bragg is taking a beating that's really not fair to him. Listening to 610 and 810 radio this morning, everyone was saying that this is the second time he's been in trouble, but wasn't Bragg pretty much exonerated on the first deal? Note: Deputy Dawg is not a squawk.
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On a call with a guy in Pittsburgh
"what's going on with that kansas basketball team?"
I'm not sure sure, I don't think anyone really knows any details right now but it seems like something big is about to happen
"oh OK we just get rumors up here but everyone knows they cover up more crap than any other program in the country "
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My wife goes to school at KU, yeah I know, anyways she heard some students talking about a drug bust in McCarthy Hall. That is the basketball players dorm. Supposedly it happened early this morning. Did anyone else hear anything? She said it was all over campus down there.
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The "yeah I know" thrown in there is great
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Nothin like rape to help the team chemistry...
Translation to me equals that the next time they do this they'll know how to not get caught or one of them winds up dead in the river? :ohno: (ftp://:ohno:)
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drug heads. need to get these kids help...or simply out of lawrence
http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2017-01-27/ku-police-have-suspect-drug-paraphernalia-case-mccarthy-hall-rape (http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2017-01-27/ku-police-have-suspect-drug-paraphernalia-case-mccarthy-hall-rape)
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http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2017-01-26/bill-self-calls-rape-investigation-ku-basketball-residence-major?utm_source=Recommendation_Widget&utm_medium=desktop&utm_campaign=qrec
You really gotta feel for Bill Self and the KU bball team after the inconvenience this rape has put them through. Hopefully the police will be more considerate and just stop the investigation, at least until basketball season is over.
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I'm surprised it's taking this long to get a check cut for the girl so this distraction goes away
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I'm surprised it's taking this long to get a check cut for the girl so this distraction goes away
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You mean she pays them for wearing meat right?
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Is it really a good idea to build a Taj Mahal boutique dorm for a scant few athletes? Particularly when the economics clearly indicate that the only non athletes that can afford to live there are either students getting a ton of financial aid, those that have incredible jobs while going to school, or rich kids. I'm guessing the non athletes are probably made up of rich kid fanboy facilitators. Couple that with the fact that the scholarship players probably take all online classes (with KU's dubious APR and Graduation numbers for Men's basketball). Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.
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Dax do a sunshine act request for the residents.
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Is it really a good idea to build a Taj Mahal boutique dorm for a scant few athletes? Particularly when the economics clearly indicate that the only non athletes that can afford to live there are either students getting a ton of financial aid, those that have incredible jobs while going to school, or rich kids. I'm guessing the non athletes are probably made up of rich kid fanboy facilitators. Couple that with the fact that the scholarship players probably take all online classes (with KU's dubious APR and Graduation numbers for Men's basketball). Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.
KU mens BB players + jock sniffers = McCarthy Hall
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Dax do a sunshine act request for the residents.
They're probably protected by FERPA.
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The good news is, you can't win a National Championship during the regular season. Even a few losses here and there isn't the end of the road. Sure, we want the best seed possible, but so long as things start to come together in March, these little bumps in the road can only help the teams mental strength aspect of this game.
To be fair, this is in regards to the Bragg suspension, but still.
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I'd never seen this place until its mugshot in the article. What a dump.
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It was built pretty cheaply
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I thought they were copying Kentucky but that's a pit compared to the lodge
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Sam's club bulk brand version of the K-State leadership studies building. Just like Ahearn/Allen.
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that's hamsterdam
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Is it really a good idea to build a Taj Mahal boutique dorm for a scant few athletes? Particularly when the economics clearly indicate that the only non athletes that can afford to live there are either students getting a ton of financial aid, those that have incredible jobs while going to school, or rich kids. I'm guessing the non athletes are probably made up of rich kid fanboy facilitators. Couple that with the fact that the scholarship players probably take all online classes (with KU's dubious APR and Graduation numbers for Men's basketball). Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.
I asked Karl who lives in the dorms with the players and all he said was "Dunno, Asians?"
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https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/826084334780178432
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It must have been his that he pushed down those girls's throats.
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wow charging him with possession of drug paraphernalia? the state of kansas is going to state of kansas. how stupid.
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Massa Seff said that Bragg's cause for suspension was unrelated to the Dec. 17 incidents at McCarthy Hall, yet the charge was based on paraphenalia recovered during that investigation. Could it be that the Massa is being untruthful?
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Massa Seff said that Bragg's cause for suspension was unrelated to the Dec. 17 incidents at McCarthy Hall, yet the charge was based on paraphenalia recovered during that investigation. Could it be that the Massa is being untruthful?
I took that to mean unrelated to the rape. But he didn't want to say rape, so he said "the incident." Stop taking him so literally.
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wow charging him with possession of drug paraphernalia? the state of kansas is going to state of kansas. how stupid.
Smokescreen, the real crimes have been covered up already. So odd that with a lot of witnesses and a secure building that they just can't sort out who raped this 16 yr old girl. Oh well, the kupd probably tried their best
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wow charging him with possession of drug paraphernalia? the state of kansas is going to state of kansas. how stupid.
Smokescreen, the real crimes have been covered up already. So odd that with a lot of witnesses and a secure building that they just can't sort out who raped this 16 yr old girl. Oh well, the kupd probably tried their best
Libs has it nailed. There is a lot under this garbage pile. I encourage you all dig up the history of the A-dorm at KSU; not good.
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wow charging him with possession of drug paraphernalia? the state of kansas is going to state of kansas. how stupid.
Smokescreen, the real crimes have been covered up already. So odd that with a lot of witnesses and a secure building that they just can't sort out who raped this 16 yr old girl. Oh well, the kupd probably tried their best
Libs has it nailed. There is a lot under this garbage pile. I encourage you all dig up the history of the A-dorm at KSU; not good.
Does this involve the notorious "Gibson Girls?" Maybe K-Stater or GoPowercat will do a feature "Memoirs of a Gibson Girl."
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The cops really need to see the bigger picture when dealing with our athletes. I understand the necessity of resolving the alleged legal issues connected to McCarthy Hall. But busting our players for something as trivial as paraphernalia isn't one of them.
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They are now deleting any post that mentions the rape. Insane
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Has anyone seen the SAE house at K-State and McCarthy Hall at KU in the same room at the same time?
They built that thing for about $12 million or so, right? They had to use some pretty cheap ass materials in that thing.
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Thoughts and Prayers go out to Carlton and his fight with drug addiction. I just hope self lets him complete rehab and doesn't force him to play just to win #13Str8.
Sobriety > Wins
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wow charging him with possession of drug paraphernalia? the state of kansas is going to state of kansas. how stupid.
Smokescreen, the real crimes have been covered up already. So odd that with a lot of witnesses and a secure building that they just can't sort out who raped this 16 yr old girl. Oh well, the kupd probably tried their best
Libs has it nailed. There is a lot under this garbage pile. I encourage you all dig up the history of the A-dorm at KSU; not good.
Does this involve the notorious "Gibson Girls?" Maybe K-Stater or GoPowercat will do a feature "Memoirs of a Gibson Girl."
My buddies at Church who.were at K State at this time said the Adorm had.about.every vise and sin for young men. My friend said he heard the football team would eat a steer a day. Apparently sex was zapping thier strength. I think this was located near Jardine apts.
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It's going down on BITB
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The Kansas City Star ?@KCStar 31m31 minutes ago
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KU found basketball player Lagerald Vick likely hit female student, recommended probation
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Some might consider what is happening at KU to be called a lack of institutional control.
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Thats it. I can no longer TSC in good conscience.
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Thats it. I can no longer TSC in good conscience.
ben ji, it's getting tough. :frown:
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Thats it. I can no longer TSC in good conscience.
ben ji, it's getting tough. :frown:
At least you still have Trump.....I've...I've got nothing now until after spring training :bawl:
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https://t.co/jT547ZkgkL
KC star article on Vick
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This is insane
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What would be the repercussions be if this was our program? Do coaches get some blame?
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what a run of bad luck
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My goodness Bill.
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Handled "in-house", big surprise :jerk:
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So Vick's twitter handle is @vicklovekicks? Unreal
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not charged if i'm reading that correctly, so the evidence apparently wasn't terribly strong.
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Kevin Haskin: When the smoke clears, will KU’s Carlton Bragg deserve another chance?
http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2017-01-30/kevin-haskin-when-smoke-clears-will-ku-s-carlton-bragg-deserve-another (http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2017-01-30/kevin-haskin-when-smoke-clears-will-ku-s-carlton-bragg-deserve-another)
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not charged if i'm reading that correctly, so the evidence apparently wasn't terribly strong.
are you really surprised that they didn't "have enough evidence" in Larrytown to prosecute a basketball player?
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None of the Baylor rapists were charged either
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it does not surprise me that the lawrence police didn't arrest a young man when there wasn't convincing evidence that he had committed a crime, no.
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Massa Seff said that Bragg's cause for suspension was unrelated to the Dec. 17 incidents at McCarthy Hall, yet the charge was based on paraphenalia recovered during that investigation. Could it be that the Massa is being untruthful?
I took that to mean unrelated to the rape. But he didn't want to say rape, so he said "the incident." Stop taking him so literally.
From Kevin Haskin's article:
But yes, in Kansas, and on the campus of KU, possession of drug paraphernalia is illegal.
The discovery was made during an investigation into an alleged rape of a 16-year-old girl at McCarthy Hall, the KU residential facility shared by the men’s basketball team and other male KU students. No suspect has yet been identified in the case of the alleged rape, but it sure seems, contrary to what Self said after suspending Bragg, that the incidents are, at the very least, loosely related.
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I watched Self on the 10 o'clock public news last night, and he looked peaved whizzin angry. I don't think Brag will ever even crap in a KU toilet let alone play basketball. I don't think self likes this stuff surrounding his program.
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page 3 of a thread on Keitz on phog and we have the Pitch and the KC Star still sitting on a blockbuster story years later, Ill let DrJamesANaismith explain...
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For those that aren't aware, the artist formerly known as Jessica in this story, a former pincushion of the KU football team when she was a waitress at ?? Yacht Club??, later became Leatherface, his current wife when his then wife kicked him to the curb after this incident:
810 WHB's Kevin Kietzman got stopped at 2:35 AM Jan. 10th in Mission Hills
because he's driving erratically and his headlights are off.The cops note a
female's head coming up from his lap as they pull him over. They ask him to
get out of the car and as he does...his pants fall down around his ankles.
The cops are laughing their a**es off. Kietzman starts blubbering that he's
a married man and that the woman is not his wife and begs them to not write
him a ticket because he says he'll lose his job. The cops call two more
cruisers when they find out its Kietzman, just to laugh at the dumb ***.
The woman is drunk on her ***. Guess who the woman giving KK the mobile
hummer is? The lovely Jessica from the radio station. The best part is the
whole incident was caught on video and audiotape by the Prairie Village
police (who patrol Mission Hills).
Long story short, they don't write him a ticket and let him go. But the cops
spread the story everywhere and everybody in the media knew about it within
days. But since there's no paperwork on the "incident" no one runs the
story - including the Pitch. The Star verified the entire ordeal down to
where a cop told one reporter, "You gotta hear him blubbering and begging on
this
tape. It's the funniest thing I've ever heard." The Star tried to get access
to the tape via the Kansas Open Record act but were denied due to some
aggressive legwork by KK's very active lawyer. He was interviewed by a
reported for The Pitch, and told him that no one was going to do this story
because there was no ticket issued. It looks like so far he's been able to
keep it out of public view.
The Pitch is still trying to get a copy of the video/audio tape from the
cops. The PV police chief let them know that after he met KK and his lawyer,
he'd like nothing better than seeing KK's incident exposed. He said that KK
came into his office with his lawyer and started reading him his press
clippings.
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That's copypasta'd like 5 times a day on the phog. Mention bitb and it's posted within 10 minutes, and then the hur hur hur kk killed 5 hookers hur hur hur starts in for a few pages. Pretty much a script
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That's copypasta'd like 5 times a day on the phog. Mention bitb and it's posted within 10 minutes, and then the hur hur hur kk killed 5 hookers hur hur hur starts in for a few pages. Pretty much a script
Didn't it happen like ten years ago? My goodness.
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I guess running KK through the rumor mill is better than dealing with the reality of Self running the dirtiest basketball program in the nation.
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BITB's biggest bump in ratings is from pissed off phoggers that tell everyone on the board to stop listening to him.
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That's copypasta'd like 5 times a day on the phog. Mention bitb and it's posted within 10 minutes, and then the hur hur hur kk killed 5 hookers hur hur hur starts in for a few pages. Pretty much a script
Didn't it happen like ten years ago? My goodness.
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You didn't get that break you needed, but you went as far as any man could, bubba.
No one's guilty because everyone in the Power Structure who knows anything has a plausible deniability.
There are no compromising connections except at the most secret point.
But what's paramount is that it must succeed. No matter how many die, how much it costs, the perpetrators must be on the winning side and never subject to prosecution for anything by anyone.
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Just glanced over there and I'm confused... it appears they feel Grayson Allen should be suspended for a year, but enjoy making Vick kicking girl jokes and feel none of their players should have to sit at all? It's hard to tell..
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I wonder if Self will do the Pete Carroll jump this year into the NBA?
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they've resorted to posting the victim's name and picture now on the phog.net webpage forum
just sick demented bastards
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The September bragg incident occurred at McCarthy. Bragg was not charged and eyewitnesses said he was innocent of any wrongdoing. Bragg's December incident occurred at a fraternity. The Vick incident occurred before the players even moved into McCarthy. So really the only thing that has happened at McCarthy is a sketchy Rape investigation that we have no knowledge of what happened.
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Timhawk:
the rape incident is gross but to me the others are just dumb kids doing dumb things. Bragg was cleared of the girl incidents and Vick may or may not have hit and kicked a girl, but no charges we filed so who knows? Bragg's bong is another just dumb mistake...but you can't tell me other teams aren't smoking it up either. Hell, Derek Willis for UK was found passed out laying on the ground with the drivers door open to a car drunk as hell...that to me is way worse then cops finding a bong. college athletes just need to think before they do things because they are in the spotlight and honestly, having any girl you want would be awesome but with that comes a lot of psycho bitches just jersey chasing.
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This can't be real life. What did Bill do to deserve this curse of distractions this year?
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it does not surprise me that the lawrence police didn't arrest a young man when there wasn't convincing evidence that he had committed a crime, no.
The thing about evidence is that is can be pretty easy for the right people to create and destroy.
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it does not surprise me that the lawrence police didn't arrest a young man when there wasn't convincing evidence that he had committed a crime, no.
The thing about evidence is that is can be pretty easy for the right people to create and destroy.
NUMEROUS TIMES!
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What in the absolute eff
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I was watching a national tv show about K State and Title IX suits.
They have a terrible record of not investigating any rapes by frats or students so long as they occur off campus (even at greek activities). Their policy is to do as little as possible. It was some national news show.
Now those guys have problems.
I guarantee they can find much much worse if they look into Fizzou or KSUck players.
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It's like watching the 5 stages of grief unfold. My goodness.
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Weird, I guess those Title IX lawsuits against KU just disappeared. #whoknew?
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The September bragg incident occurred at McCarthy. Bragg was not charged and eyewitnesses said he was innocent of any wrongdoing. Bragg's December incident occurred at a fraternity. The Vick incident occurred before the players even moved into McCarthy. So really the only thing that has happened at McCarthy is a sketchy Rape investigation that we have no knowledge of what happened.
Outside of some meaningless rape, the students that represent the university and get a free education do all their boys will be boys shenanigans off campus, so who cares amirite?
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They've been rogue for years. He just recruits whoever and doesn't worry about it they hit girls
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they've resorted to posting the victim's name and picture now on the phog.net webpage forum
just sick demented bastards
Grading her comes next in the script.
How long until they track down the victim's social media accounts and start grading her pics?
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I hope leatherface is ready because KK's little turtle dick is so hard right now.
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imthecowgodmoo wrote:
I'm calling in
Okay, I tuned back in. Let's hear it goo.
On hold. Can only hold on for 5 more mins or so..
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Let me know when the next Phogistinian says something like, "well, I bet there's a lot worse stuff at K-State".
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They quoted Ell's stuff and LHC Bill Snyder somewhere in one of those sick rough ridin' threads.
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Let me know when the next Phogistinian says something like, "well, I bet there's a lot worse stuff at K-State".
:)
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they've resorted to posting the victim's name and picture now on the phog.net webpage forum
just sick demented bastards
Is Hillary giving the Chicken Hoarde advice. Destroy the victim.
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I appreciate that ku now just says F it, we will sign the worst guys, Cover up what we can because we can't compete with duke, Kentucky, unc, mich state, Louisville, unc, or uconn for NCs. I wish we would
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I appreciate that ku now just says F it, we will sign the worst guys, Cover up what we can because we can't compete with duke, Kentucky, unc, mich state, Louisville, unc, or uconn for NCs. I wish we would
Give them credit. They developed a plan and they are sticking to it.
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I appreciate that ku now just says F it, we will sign the worst guys, Cover up what we can because we can't compete with duke, Kentucky, unc, mich state, Louisville, unc, or uconn for NCs. I wish we would
I don't, because I don't want girls to get raped at KSU for wins. But I'm opposed to rape, maybe you're not
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Not to get too nuanced here, but KState has Title IX issues due to off campus incidents that may have involved people who are not Kstate students.
KU has Title IX issues involving KU athletes and incidents that either partly or wholly took place on campus. BTW, at last look KU was diligently working to get the cases dismissed.
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"So really the only thing that has happened at is a sketchy raoe investigation that we have no knowledge of what happened."
Is this phogger talking about Ell Roberson's trip to Glendale?
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"So really the only thing that has happened at is a sketchy raoe investigation that we have no knowledge of what happened."
Is this phogger talking about Ell Roberson's trip to Glendale?
And Vick accepted probation for hitting a girl.
And Bragg hit a girl and had drug paraphernalia
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"So really the only thing that has happened at is a sketchy raoe investigation that we have no knowledge of what happened."
Is this phogger talking about Ell Roberson's trip to Glendale?
And Vick accepted probation for hitting a girl.
And Bragg hit a girls (more than one account listed. two other accounts last fall)and had drug paraphernalia.
FYP
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Apparently Derek Willis was found passed out once at UK. So UK is just as bad. I read that on the Phog.
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http://www.scout.com/college/kansas/forums/2481-hoops-talk/15360875-let-s-invade-kk-s-program-tomorrow?s=172&page=1
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article130112314.html
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DrVanNostrand1 wrote: I kind of figured the rape wasn't a rape in the sense we think about it
Can't say for sure, but I get the feeling this was rape because of the girls age. Not because there wasn't consent.
I guess I don't know the age of consent in Kansas. That could change things if it's 16 obviously. Wouldn't think it would be 16 in a state like Kansas but don't really know.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article130112314.html
Hey, I'm in the criminal justice business, and a diversion agreement reached in that short of period of time is very improbable. Someone intervened to (1) Get his application for diversion considered immediately, and (2) To get it approved.
FWIW, I don't think Bragg's charge is a big deal, you'd be shocked at the number of people that get charged with misdemeanor possession or paraphanalia stuff. But it is odd that he got diversion this quickly.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article130112314.html
I hope the students at the game on Feb 6th don't forget any of the things that have been going on in Low Rents the last month or so.
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Bragg missed Saturday’s game at Kentucky and Self said Monday that Bragg wouldn’t play Wednesday night against Baylor. Self didn’t say when Bragg would return.
Because we all know he'll return for their super bowl next Monday.
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DrVanNostrand1 wrote: I kind of figured the rape wasn't a rape in the sense we think about it
Can't say for sure, but I get the feeling this was rape because of the girls age. Not because there wasn't consent.
I guess I don't know the age of consent in Kansas. That could change things if it's 16 obviously. Wouldn't think it would be 16 in a state like Kansas but don't really know.
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A state like Kansas? Wtf does this mean?
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I know this has been mentioned in other threads but, wherethe **** is Zenger? What a POS making everyone else, particularly Bill Sef, take the arrow from the media.
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
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Omg they're car vandals now :lol:
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
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All this stuff is a trip. The phog is really starting to look like Baylorfans these days with the "OUT TO GET US" conspiracies.
First it was King BITB, now it's the KC Star sports staff.
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Don't they realize the KU Star is their number one fan who covers this stuff up and keeps anything that *must* come out on the back page?
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All this stuff is a trip. The phog is really starting to look like Baylorfans these days with the "OUT TO GET US" conspiracies.
First it was King BITB, now it's the KC Star sports staff.
They are into some super aggressive victim blaming now
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
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All this stuff is a trip. The phog is really starting to look like Baylorfans these days with the "OUT TO GET US" conspiracies.
First it was King BITB, now it's the KC Star sports staff.
They are into some super aggressive victim blaming now
It's pretty gross.
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How many pages dedicated to BITB?
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
What is wrong with you? Projecting at this point?
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0006_section/021_055_0006_k/
Such a weird thing to be wrong about and dig your heels in for.
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
What is wrong with you? Projecting at this point?
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0006_section/021_055_0006_k/
Such a weird thing to be wrong about and dig your heels in for.
You think that age of consent means the age when you can eff them and be charged with something less than rape. Yes, you can eff a 14-year-old that's cool w/it and get charged with something less than rape.
As always, do whatever you want, but I recommend you consult the Kansas sentencing guidelines first and consider waiting 1-2 years and rough ridin' the then-16-year-old who's cool w/it.
For the rest of you, if you don't want to take the word of someone who's irl charged these sick fucks w/the correct charge for every point on the pedo spectrum, here's basic google:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fage%2520of%2520consent%25201_zpsmeo3lk2t.jpg&hash=6b674aace12eea54a9f020c5c56447ba4c011e56) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/age%20of%20consent%201_zpsmeo3lk2t.jpg.html)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fage%2520of%2520consent%25202_zpscjebvtw0.jpg&hash=295e9436f8b3322fb1fea6b8c1894a96b61a9f3e) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/age%20of%20consent%202_zpscjebvtw0.jpg.html)
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Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
What is wrong with you? Projecting at this point?
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/021_000_0000_chapter/021_055_0000_article/021_055_0006_section/021_055_0006_k/
Such a weird thing to be wrong about and dig your heels in for.
You think that age of consent means the age when you can eff them and be charged with something less than rape. Yes, you can eff a 14-year-old that's cool w/it and get charged with something less than rape.
As always, do whatever you want, but I recommend you consult the Kansas sentencing guidelines first and consider waiting 1-2 years and rough ridin' the then-16-year-old who's cool w/it.
For the rest of you, if you don't want to take the word of someone who's irl charged these sick fucks w/the correct charge for every point on the pedo spectrum, here's basic google:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fage%2520of%2520consent%25201_zpsmeo3lk2t.jpg&hash=6b674aace12eea54a9f020c5c56447ba4c011e56) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/age%20of%20consent%201_zpsmeo3lk2t.jpg.html)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fage%2520of%2520consent%25202_zpscjebvtw0.jpg&hash=295e9436f8b3322fb1fea6b8c1894a96b61a9f3e) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/age%20of%20consent%202_zpscjebvtw0.jpg.html)
So basically you went ahead and read what I posted and then the statues and decided you were wrong are still trying to prove yourself right through a weird deflection?
I don't know why you're having so much trouble with just letting go and realizing that I posted the actual statues that prove what statutory rape is versus various other child predator crimes. You are now agreeing with me about what the ages are and what crimes they would be charged with. But you seem to have a weird fascination with trying to avoid being a child predator and are projecting it.
I mean thanks for putting up screen shots that prove my point that there are multiple levels at play here. But from the first link:
What is the age of consent for sex in Kansas, 14 or 16?
The answer isn't that simple because "age of consent" isn't a legal term under Kansas law, Dist. Atty. Christine Kenney said.
Having sex with someone under age 16 falls under one of several criminal laws:
l Sexual intercourse with someone under age 14 in Kansas is classified as rape, a level 1 felony, regardless of other circumstances.
l If the offender is age 19 or older, intercourse with someone either 14 or 15 is "aggravated indecent liberties with a child," a level 3 felony.
l If the offender is under age 19 and the sex is voluntary, intercourse with someone either 14 or 15 is "unlawful voluntary sexual relations," a level 8 felony.
I'm really not sure what your hangup is at this point Trim. You obviously didn't care to read my posts and went off on this with horribly wrong assumptions. If you're actually working these cases, I feel sorry for the victims because you'd miss a lot in the way you ignore statements, make assumptions, and make up scenarios to make yourself feel better.
Just weird you'd want to get proven wrong over and over again and continue to make this thread really rough ridin' weird.
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Trim is correct
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Trim is correct
Yes, because he is now parroting what I posted in the beginning, with the appropriate statues.
Edit:
And just to be clear, and I'm not sure why Trim screwed this up since he is usually a pretty level headed guy who reads stuff, but I posted a link to a felony crime and he called it a "non-criminal indecent liberties charge." I think he just needs to slow down and read stuff before jumping to fight his windmill.
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edn thinking he has a better grasp of Kansas criminal statutes than someone who had a job that required him to work within the Kansas criminal statutes is so very edn.
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edn thinking he has a better grasp of Kansas criminal statutes than someone who had a job that required him to work within the Kansas criminal statutes is so very edn.
kinda telling when he calls a felony statue a noncriminal offense
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edn thinking he has a better grasp of Kansas criminal statutes than someone who had a job that required him to work within the Kansas criminal statutes is so very edn.
kinda telling when he calls a felony statue a noncriminal offense
I apparently better clarify that the below post was me mocking ednksu and that I don't recommend that any of you people eff 15-year-olds and bask in a post-coitus belief that you wouldn't be getting charged criminally, notwithstanding that you would indeed be charged criminally with an indecent liberties charge and go to prison BECAUSE THE AGE OF CONSENT IN KANSAS IS 16.
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
Frankly, unless you're also at least 16 and also still in high school ('clams, etc.), from just a human non-lawyer perspective, I'd recommend not rough ridin' even those 16 and 17 year old minors.
eff, I better clarify again that the 'clams reference above is a joke about posts on gE and that I don't recommend that 'clams eff high school upperclassmen (or upperclasswomen!).
And that last (or upperclasswomen!) is also a refernce to past gE jokes.
There's only 30 or so of you people that I keep straight as distinct people. Is ednksu the one who kept calling cops killing black people "clean kills" or "clean shoots" or the one who doesn't think Jake Pullen's jersey should be retired or neither or both?
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Both
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Was he also the one that called Pullen a "pussy"?
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Yes MC, that is edn
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Would it help keep things straight if we changed ednksu to ailksu (for agg. indecent liberties)?
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This heinous crime is tearing this board apart. :frown:
I think edn should just admit he mistakenly used the phrase "age of consent" instead of saying it's only "statutory rape" if the age is under 14.
The point being that if a 16 year old was raped in this case, it was definitely non-consensual.
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let's get back to the KU ruh-oh.. someone that's following this better than me, please fill in... I jumped pages cause I'm not reading it all, but are they saying it's the same girl connected with every single one of these situations, that girl is crazy and making everything up, and that girls brother was affiliated with ISIS so you can't trust her?
TIA.
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let's get back to the KU ruh-oh.. someone that's following this better than me, please fill in... I jumped pages cause I'm not reading it all, but are they saying it's the same girl connected with every single one of these situations, that girl is crazy and making everything up, and that girls brother was affiliated with ISIS so you can't trust her?
TIA.
Yeah. The recaps of both the ku response and the gE sex crime analysis are really pretty simplistic.
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I think the 16 year old runaway that was assaulted at MCCarthy hall is different from the girl that Vick beat up then decided to trash her car for good measure. That may be the same girl who simply needs to "leave the basketball team alone" according to Karl. No word on whether her car needs to stop being such a jersey chaser...
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K-State fans are the ISIS of the Big 12, are they saying the crazy girl from all the incidents (besides the 16 year old runaway) brother is a K-State fan or connected to the real mean ISIS?
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K-State fans are the ISIS of the Big 12, are they saying the crazy girl from all the incidents (besides the 16 year old runaway) brother is a K-State fan or connected to the real mean ISIS?
You think our (ISIS) placement of Cheyenne Zulu into their AD was limited to rough ridin' w/football?
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I enjoyed the #fakenews comments on the Star's story. A lot.
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Have some friends at ku and rumor is Bragg took the fall for Mason so they could have him vs Baylor.
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edn thinking he has a better grasp of Kansas criminal statutes than someone who had a job that required him to work within the Kansas criminal statutes is so very edn.
kinda telling when he calls a felony statue a noncriminal offense
I apparently better clarify that the below post was me mocking ednksu and that I don't recommend that any of you people eff 15-year-olds and bask in a post-coitus belief that you wouldn't be getting charged criminally, notwithstanding that you would indeed be charged criminally with an indecent liberties charge and go to prison BECAUSE THE AGE OF CONSENT IN KANSAS IS 16.
Yes, rape is a crime. You should def eff a 15-year-old that you think is of consenting age and refract with your non-criminal indecent liberties charge.
Frankly, unless you're also at least 16 and also still in high school ('clams, etc.), from just a human non-lawyer perspective, I'd recommend not rough ridin' even those 16 and 17 year old minors.
eff, I better clarify again that the 'clams reference above is a joke about posts on gE and that I don't recommend that 'clams eff high school upperclassmen (or upperclasswomen!).
And that last (or upperclasswomen!) is also a refernce to past gE jokes.
There's only 30 or so of you people that I keep straight as distinct people. Is ednksu the one who kept calling cops killing black people "clean kills" or "clean shoots" or the one who doesn't think Jake Pullen's jersey should be retired or neither or both?
You're deeply disturbed.
If you wanted to make the gripe about "age of consent" for statutory versus other crimes and me not being specific enough fine. But you mumped it up early on by ignoring the obvious and posting inaccurate information (still haven't admitted you were wrong about "noncriminal statues"). I'm talking about everything being wrong and a felony and you were now trying to "mock" me. Seems more like you mumped up and are trying to cover your slip by saying it was a gE joke.
And no, I was in favor of Jake's jersey being retired the day after he was done or even like Weaker and Ohlde. And I'll continue to own my stupid meltdown comment. It's a shame you won't do the same Trim.
This heinous crime is tearing this board apart. :frown:
I think edn should just admit he mistakenly used the phrase "age of consent" instead of saying it's only "statutory rape" if the age is under 14.
The point being that if a 16 year old was raped in this case, it was definitely non-consensual.
best post in pages.
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ail, just to put a bow on all this, what is the age of consent in Kansas?
Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
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Guys, guys let's not let the horrific situation over at JCCC-L tear us apart!
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Everyone should keep in mind that catastrophe is a (confirmed) edn sock and that should add some more humor to edn being wrong
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ail, just to put a bow on all this, what is the age of consent in Kansas?
Fun fact, the age of consent in Kansas is 14. If you're hooking up with someone under 16 you get charged with other crimes then statutory rape, like indecent liberties with a minor.
No, the age of consent is 16. That's why such a "hookup" is a crime. Under 14 is even more heinous.
And it was plainly see that I said
14-16 and 16-18 are different statues for the same mumped up acts. Couldn't we just leave it at that?
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Guys, guys let's not let the horrific situation over at JCCC-L tear us apart!
yeah let's let bickering about politics do that!
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Have some friends at ku and rumor is Bragg took the fall for Mason so they could have him vs Baylor.
Pretty good scoop, thanks hambone
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Guys, guys let's not let the horrific situation over at JCCC-L tear us apart!
yeah let's let bickering about politics do that!
Agreed, oh, and I forgot to tell you, you're not invited to Thanksgiving Dinner this year, sorry, but it's for the good of the family.
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Guys, guys let's not let the horrific situation over at JCCC-L tear us apart!
yeah let's let bickering about politics do that!
Agreed, oh, and I forgot to tell you, you're not invited to Thanksgiving Dinner this year, sorry, but it's for the good of the family.
Turkey has always been too dry and stuffing too moist.
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Guys, guys let's not let the horrific situation over at JCCC-L tear us apart!
yeah let's let bickering about politics do that!
Agreed, oh, and I forgot to tell you, you're not invited to Thanksgiving Dinner this year, sorry, but it's for the good of the family.
Turkey has always been too dry and stuffing too moist.
No, you're thinking of Aunt Mrs. Gooch. I smoke a succulent butter garlic injected turkey with frequent (closed lid) misting.
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Can I come, dax?
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Can I come, dax?
Sure
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Can I come, dax?
Sure
Awwww yeah!
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Can we at least all agree that whatever the law may be, that it is a statute and not a statue?
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T's & P's for all of your significant others that are going to find "age of consent in Kansas" in your browser histories
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T's & P's for all of your significant others that are going to find "age of consent in Kansas" in your browser histories
:lol:
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A girl who might've been kicked in the face or had her car mumped up or whatever is going on over there is about to have Joe Davis on her ass.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2FScreenshot_2017-02-03-15-16-44_zpswtq6dwlh.png&hash=1bf80194bd40ac54ebd5783571ea3da91f485cdd) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/Screenshot_2017-02-03-15-16-44_zpswtq6dwlh.png.html)
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and people wonder why rape is under reported.
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Joe Davis, the Tyler Dreilling of KU
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A girl who might've been kicked in the face or had her car mumped up or whatever is going on over there is about to have Joe Davis on her ass.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2FScreenshot_2017-02-03-15-16-44_zpswtq6dwlh.png&hash=1bf80194bd40ac54ebd5783571ea3da91f485cdd) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/Screenshot_2017-02-03-15-16-44_zpswtq6dwlh.png.html)
What a piece of crap
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Friends, don't let
Penn State, Baylor, I mean psychopath/sociopath KU fans get you down.
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Ts and Ps for all the women 14 to (what age was Sheron's social worker, like 48?)
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T's & P's for all of your significant others that are going to find "age of consent in Kansas" in your browser histories
This made me lol (literally).
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I love these rough ridin' guys. Most entertaining fans of all time.
"He just traveled again" - Fran F*ckface
Saturday at 10:36 PM
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I didn't read the game thread, so I don't know if anyone discussed this elsewhere, but I've listened to Fran for the last time. That whole rant he had about how Svi just traveled (against KSU) and how he thought he "took 3 steps" on that play today against ISU (he absolutely did NOT) followed by "he just traveled again...he shuffled his feet" (he absolutely did NOT - he had a solid pivot foot down)....man, I don't know what to think.
Then he screamed "Yes!" on one of those late-game ISU 3's that were huge. Never heard him (admittedly, I didn't listen to him the whole game) say anything from our perspective. It's always, "If I'm Iowa State here, I want Morris with the ball....all ISU has to do here is...look what happened there and how ISU made a mistake to allow KU to score that bucket...bla bla bla."
What a tool...he doesn't even try to hide it anymore. Even when he's saying that Frank should be NPOY, it doesn't sound like he's impressed and likes him...only that one is obligated to give it to him right now. Basically, resignation.
**** that guy.
Timhawk thinks K-State gets all the calls
i think it comes down to how much they let Johnson for kstate get away with playing football.
I predict that K-State fans will embarrass themselves on national television. Besides that, I don't really know. We will probably play a fair amount of zone due to fatigue, trying to limit their guards from penetrating, and/or foul trouble. Self didn't play it against ISU because the traditional thinking is that it's harder to guard outside shooters from a zone, but as much as we get beaten off the dribble, thereby forcing help off of shooters, I think we can guard the 3 just as well from a zone. I don't think we played it in the first game against KSU, and they scored at will.
If KSU is hot shooting over the zone, we are in trouble. If they shoot like Baylor and Kentucky did against it (made some, but not hot), we will probably win a close one. If they shoot horribly, we will win by double digits.
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I love these rough ridin' guys. Most entertaining fans of all time.
"He just traveled again" - Fran F*ckface
Saturday at 10:36 PM
(30 votes)
I didn't read the game thread, so I don't know if anyone discussed this elsewhere, but I've listened to Fran for the last time. That whole rant he had about how Svi just traveled (against KSU) and how he thought he "took 3 steps" on that play today against ISU (he absolutely did NOT) followed by "he just traveled again...he shuffled his feet" (he absolutely did NOT - he had a solid pivot foot down)....man, I don't know what to think.
Then he screamed "Yes!" on one of those late-game ISU 3's that were huge. Never heard him (admittedly, I didn't listen to him the whole game) say anything from our perspective. It's always, "If I'm Iowa State here, I want Morris with the ball....all ISU has to do here is...look what happened there and how ISU made a mistake to allow KU to score that bucket...bla bla bla."
What a tool...he doesn't even try to hide it anymore. Even when he's saying that Frank should be NPOY, it doesn't sound like he's impressed and likes him...only that one is obligated to give it to him right now. Basically, resignation.
**** that guy.
Timhawk thinks K-State gets all the calls
i think it comes down to how much they let Johnson for kstate get away with playing football.
I predict that K-State fans will embarrass themselves on national television. Besides that, I don't really know. We will probably play a fair amount of zone due to fatigue, trying to limit their guards from penetrating, and/or foul trouble. Self didn't play it against ISU because the traditional thinking is that it's harder to guard outside shooters from a zone, but as much as we get beaten off the dribble, thereby forcing help off of shooters, I think we can guard the 3 just as well from a zone. I don't think we played it in the first game against KSU, and they scored at will.
If KSU is hot shooting over the zone, we are in trouble. If they shoot like Baylor and Kentucky did against it (made some, but not hot), we will probably win a close one. If they shoot horribly, we will win by double digits.
No crap. The opposing team shooting horribly you will probs win the game. #hawklogic
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Self says Bragg with suit up tonight. Not shocked at all.
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Bragg missed Saturday’s game at Kentucky and Self said Monday that Bragg wouldn’t play Wednesday night against Baylor. Self didn’t say when Bragg would return.
Because we all know he'll return for their super bowl next Monday.
https://twitter.com/CJOnline/status/828674710594535424
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Bragg missed Saturday’s game at Kentucky and Self said Monday that Bragg wouldn’t play Wednesday night against Baylor. Self didn’t say when Bragg would return.
Because we all know he'll return for their super bowl next Monday.
https://twitter.com/CJOnline/status/828674710594535424
Should make for some good sign material
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Self says Bragg with suit up tonight. Not shocked at all.
The infamous 3 game suspension...
Though I'm not sure KU has the 10% suspension rule for the 2nd offense like we do. From what I found, KU changed their rule of dismissal from the 3rd offense to the 5th as of last December. K-State is still 10% suspension on the 2nd and dismissal on the 3rd.
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Their signs, chants, comments are all going to be awful. They will be personal. They will target Bragg, Jackson, Vick and maybe more. They will call us rapists and more. Our guys need to know it's coming. They have to try not to let it get them too high or too low. Lock in and take care of business.
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Self says Bragg with suit up tonight. Not shocked at all.
The infamous 3 game suspension...
Though I'm not sure KU has the 10% suspension rule for the 2nd offense like we do. From what I found, KU changed their rule of dismissal from the 3rd offense to the 5th as of last December. K-State is still 10% suspension on the 2nd and dismissal on the 3rd.
there is no reason for us not to do this.
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KU coach Bill Self, cognizant of his team’s apparent fatigue at the end of the Iowa State loss, did not hold a regular practice Sunday. The short-handed Jayhawks may again be without sophomore forward Carlton Bragg, indefinitely suspended for the last three games following a violation of team rules. Bragg will travel with the team for Monday’s game at K-State, however, Self told The Topeka Capital-Journal in a Sunday evening text message.
Asked if Bragg would play against the Wildcats, Self replied, “I haven’t decided.”
Welp, he looked at the lineups and knows he needs a size advantage to keep us in foul trouble to win. Self is the master... Kinda impressed with how much he does not care about intergrity. Miss those days.
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there is no reason for us not to do this.
True, there is no reason to be any different that most other Big 12 schools.
BIG 12
x-Baylor: 10-percent season suspension for second failed test vs. 10-percent suspension plus one game previously.
Iowa State: 10-percent season suspension for second failed test; dismissal after third.
x-Kansas: Dismissal after fifth failed test vs. after third failed test previously.
Kansas State: 10-percent season suspension for second failed test; dismissal for third.
Oklahoma: Dismissal, with possible reinstatement, for third failed test; No reinstatement after fourth failed test.
x-Oklahoma State: No mandatory suspensions for failed tests; 50-percent season suspension for third failed test previously.
x-Texas: Dismissal after fourth failed marijuana test vs. third previously.
y-Texas Tech: Dismissal for third failed test for any drug vs. dismissal for fourth failed marijuana test previously.
x-West Virginia: Counseling for first failed marijuana test vs. indefinite suspension previously.
TCU: One-year suspension after second failed test; dismissal after third.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/power-five-conference-recreational-drug-policies-highlights
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I predict that K-State fans will embarrass themselves on national television. Besides that, I don't really know. We will probably play a fair amount of zone due to fatigue, trying to limit their guards from penetrating, and/or foul trouble. Self didn't play it against ISU because the traditional thinking is that it's harder to guard outside shooters from a zone, but as much as we get beaten off the dribble, thereby forcing help off of shooters, I think we can guard the 3 just as well from a zone. I don't think we played it in the first game against KSU, and they scored at will.
If KSU is hot shooting over the zone, we are in trouble. If they shoot like Baylor and Kentucky did against it (made some, but not hot), we will probably win a close one. If they shoot horribly, we will win by double digits.
I sure am glad that we are less than 90 miles away from the school that invented basketball, and whose fans are the most knowledgeable in the country.
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Those drug policies are pretty lol. KU is smarter than everyone.
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Bill Briles runs a tight ship
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KU: The Baylor of the plains
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Those drug policies are pretty lol. KU is smarter than everyone.
Look at Brad :love:
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i would like to attend wvu's marijuana counseling session for the lols
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i would like to attend wvu's marijuana counseling session for the lols
"smoking is bad mmmmmmkayy"
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He's gotta let Bragg play. This is probably the biggest must win Self has needed in years. If ku loses this game, the heat will be on Self, losing two games in a row, and one of them at the holier and thou court of AFH and the other on the road to big bro. The next 3 after that for them are @TT, WVU, and @Rapist, which they will probably lose at least 1 of those. And god help him if we don't storm the court and Nathan Powers someone for Self to cast the ire of ku-nation off of him and onto some kid. Will be amazeballs to see what scapegoat he'll come up with at that point.
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Well, we will rush the court if we win.
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I don't want to turn this into something that it isn't but you guys gotta be kidding me with this we should allow five positive drug tests. It shows a complete lack of accountability and expectations for young people who should be at your university to learn something. It also places sports above the potential well being of a young, still maturing, adult. All gEing aside KUs drug policy is incredibly irresponsible and I really don't understand how the parents of the student athletes trust their kids there.
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5 offenses is absurd in any context.
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a student loses any federal grant or loan with one drug offense, getting an athletic scholarship buys you four more offenses, ridiculous.
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Joe Davis, the Tyler Dreilling of KU
Awkward.
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Weird that any KU fan would talk about the media that way given the Pom Pom wavers that cover KU basketball.
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I also LOL at the thought of it taking 5 offenses to get the boot at KU or any other school. That's absurd.
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I thought Talib bragged about failing 5 or 6? Imagine the number these guys failed and weren't reported.
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Phog gems after losing a recruit to OU.
Enjoy watching the tourney at home next year
I don't normally give kids a hard time for their choices like this, but this is a really really dumb decision.
I will repeat, his loss.
Based on Self's recruiting pitch to Young, I bet Self is pretty livid over this decision.
Young had a ticket to come in and replace Frank Mason's role in the offense.
Instead he decides he wants to spend his college time playing in a dimly lit church basement.
Kids don't give one care about winning these days. It's just reality. They've grown up being told they're winners no matter what.
He just flat out did NOT want to compete for a starting job.
Another dumb kid that cares more about getting his shots than winning games. Hope he enjoys the NIT. Him and Porter can have something in common now.
Who cares about this primadonna? Malik Newman is gonna eat his lunch next year and ship him off straight to D-league. Also f**k Jason Jordan
He is not a program changer. You guys will still be bad next year. He would have done better at KU because he would not have to be the man. He isn't going to be the man in the B12 for a while. He's tiny.
https://twitter.com/AszubokeyUdoeka/status/832297138138783745
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It's 4 years of mediocrity and Czech basketball league after that for Trae
He sounded scared of competition any way. I never worry about high school kids decisions. We'll just have to beat his ass twice a year. Hey at least OU will move from the bottom to the middle of the big 12.
dont care. He sounds like a problem guy. Overzealous dads are a major headache.
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OU was in the final 4 last year. High school kids outside of JoCo have no idea the last time KU was.
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I'll always remember Davis owning the everyloving crap out of TRob.
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why aren't we talking about this too?
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-devonte-graham-arrested-shortly-after-jawhawks-clinch-big-12-title/
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why aren't we talking about this too?
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-devonte-graham-arrested-shortly-after-jawhawks-clinch-big-12-title/
Water's wet, sun's hot, etc, etc, etc. Our house is on fire while the neighbors are still running a trap house.
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what in the world is suspicion of failure to appear?
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I want to know more about getting arrested on jayhawk Blvd lol. Like he was just walking down the street and the popo was like oh man we should arrest him? There is a major piece of this story missing
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They won the Big 12, so the haters don't care anymore and the cops can stop trying to solve these crimes until next year.
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what in the world is suspicion of failure to appear?
Tyler Self promised him he would get the ticket paid. Tyler forgot
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who was the former player's car he was in?
because it seems like he might have just leaked a bit of info on how these guys are paid.
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who was the former player's car he was in?
because it seems like he might have just leaked a bit of info on how these guys are paid.
Scot Pollard still running that game?
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https://twitter.com/thatelliotmetz/status/835174362588274688
hell, give him a 3 game suspension. rest up boy.
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:lol:
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Boy :frown:
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He's 20? Held back. :frown:
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who was the former player's car he was in?
because it seems like he might have just leaked a bit of info on how these guys are paid.
Here's the title to my whip, I listed the value as $20 on the bill of sale. Check the spare tire compartment for loo$e change.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
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Good grief
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Investigators have interviewed several people who witnessed the reported crime. A police report categorized the $2,991 in total damage to the car as a felony. But Friday’s release listed the damage at a higher amount, $3,150.45.
“Felony criminal damage (damage in excess of $1,000) was not charged because the state cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that all the damage to the door and tail light were caused by Jackson,” the release said.
Makes sense? :dunno:
I mean, thank goodness she made it to the car in time. That seems like it could have been a lot worse if he caught up to her before.
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boys will be boys. i trust that bill self will handle this appropriately.
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Maybe next time she'll think before she cheats.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
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the phog never disappoints
Not blaming the victim here, but pouring a beer over someone's head is not cool. I have been arrested before because a chick in Westport poured a beer over my head. Right after she did it I punched her "boyfriend" and then we got it in a big fight and both got arrested. It turns out he wasn't even her boyfriend, he was just by her.
I'm not blaming the victim...
BUT!
This is the chance for Bill to send a big fu to kc media. Make kk and the star go apesh!t by saying "according to our wonderful country a man is innocent until proven guilty. We will reserve any punishment until a trial is complete".
Then extend dates out until season is over and be done with it.
If I was Coach Self I would print off pictures of this girl, put it up all over the basketball facility and say if you go near this crazy b!tch than your running a 100 miles up the steps in AFH.
seems reasonable
Good thing I wasn't a high profile athlete in the age of social media, fake news, SJW's, and smartphones. I'm not justifying any of the extra curricular activities, but we're talking about 18-22 year old being 18-22 year olds and their poor choices.
If she's lying then she's not a victim, Vick is.
Suspend him a game or two and move on. This is normal college kid crap.
I won't apologize to the Star, but I'm also not going to boycott their paper like I was going to if nothing ever happened from the Yacht Club incident.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
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lansing is officially jealous of lawrence
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3 or 4?
Bragg, Jackson, Graham, ... and wasn't there one other in there? Lose track.
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The Douglas County District Attorney’s Office has charged Kansas basketball player Josh Jackson with criminal damage to a woman’s car.
According to a news release, witnesses say they saw Jackson kicking the car while arguing with the woman outside a Lawrence club on Dec. 9.
Total damage to the vehicle was more than $3,100 and multiple people were allegedly involved in committing it, the DA Office’s news release indicates.
The threshold for felony charges is $1,000 in damage, but the office has charged Jackson with a misdemeanor.
The news release indicates this is because witness descriptions point to multiple people engaging in the vandalism, meaning Jackson was not solely responsible.
It says witnesses say they saw him kick the driver’s door and a rear taillight.
Damage to those two areas was estimated at about $1,130. The news release says felony charges were not brought “because the State cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that all the damage to the door and taillight were caused by Jackson.”
The DA’s news release says the incident occurred at 545 Wisconsin Street after an altercation that began inside the Yacht Club involving the woman and Jackson’s friend. Officers determined the woman threw a drink on a male patron while leaving the club.
The press release notes that defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Jackson, a freshman from Detroit, is the second-leading scorer and rebounder for No. 3 KU, which secured a share of its 13th straight Big 12 regular-season championship with Wednesday night’s win against TCU. Jackson averages 16.5 points and 7.1 rebounds for the Jayhawks (25-3, 13-2 Big 12).
KU will play at Texas at 5 p.m. Saturday. KU has yet to announce whether Jackson will be allowed to play in that game.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
(I meant the actual comment on the article when you follow the link) Edit: which has since been rightfully removed, it was a NSFW Sex Bot link
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
He was referring to the comment section. The comment (since deleted) was a svelt young woman inquiring if the readers would like to see what she looks like when masturbating. The comment included a tinyurl that I did not click.
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Is pouring a beer on someone not assault? Charge that crazy bitch with assault.
I hope Josh's foot is ok.
I'm pretty picky about the character of KU football and basketball players. Uh this is stupid and this is a witch hunt.
Why should this warrant any kind of suspension? Pay the fine and move on. Same with Graham. This is a simple case were kids did something stupid. When did paying your debt to society continue past paying the fine?
F'ing KC media passing out the bark to MU and K-State fans again.
The same girl is at the center of every one of these incidents? Is that correct?
If you haven't been involved in property damage when you were younger, I would imagine you are in the minority of male youth
Raise your hand if you were 18-19 and never threw a beer at a parked car, never pissed on a car handle, never got into a bar fight, never smoked a joint, never thought about a 3-way with a chick in a bar, never streaked, never skinny dipped with a pool full of drunk chicks, never snuck out of the house, never drank/partied to all hours of the night.
What Jackson is accused of happens millions of times in college towns all over the country, and has been going on for decades.
We call this stupid.
We call this normal.
The only reason it's a story is because it involves a KU basketball player.
It obviously isn't right to damage someone else's property, but I don't know that this even deserves a suspension. If it does, 1 game should suffice. Jackson should pay the fine and move on. Any other infractions by the team should require stiffer penalties.
I'm sure HCBS has already told them that if they ** up this season w/ any more off the court __**, he will murder them. At this point, they need to be locked in their rooms at 9:00pm to make sure they aren't doing anything they shouldn't, or that crazy hoes aren't trying to railroad them and their season.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
He was referring to the comment section. The comment (since deleted) was a svelt young woman inquiring if the readers would like to see what she looks like when masturbating. The comment included a tinyurl that I did not click.
:thumbs:
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
(I meant the actual comment on the article when you follow the link) Edit: which has since been rightfully removed, it was a NSFW Sex Bot link
That makes more sense. They must have deleted it, because when I checked there wasn't one there.
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Raise your hand if you were 18-19 and never threw a beer at a parked car, never pissed on a car handle
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a 3-way with a chick in a bar, never streaked, never skinny dipped with a pool full of drunk chicks
Can't say that I have. Apparently there are unique opportunities in Lawrence that make these things appear normal.
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Once again after reading quotes over here from ku fans I find myself wondering out loud "who are these people?".
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I guess I missed out in my youth when I never kicked a woman in the face or caused property damage when a woman is upset that my bud kicked her in the face and then went back to my bros house and raped a 16yr old runaway
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Raise your hand if you were 18-19 and never threw a beer at a parked car, never pissed on a car handle, never got into a bar fight, never smoked a joint, never thought about a 3-way with a chick in a bar, never streaked, never skinny dipped with a pool full of drunk chicks, never snuck out of the house, never drank/partied to all hours of the night.
What Jackson is accused of happens millions of times in college towns all over the country, and has been going on for decades.
We call this stupid.
We call this normal.
The only reason it's a story is because it involves a KU basketball player.
I don't understand why this is in the list.
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Raise your hand if you were 18-19 and never threw a beer at a parked car, never pissed on a car handle, never got into a bar fight, never smoked a joint, never thought about a 3-way with a chick in a bar, never streaked, never skinny dipped with a pool full of drunk chicks, never snuck out of the house, never drank/partied to all hours of the night.
What Jackson is accused of happens millions of times in college towns all over the country, and has been going on for decades.
We call this stupid.
We call this normal.
The only reason it's a story is because it involves a KU basketball player.
I don't understand why this is in the list.
I've thought about a lot of things in my life, I wouldn't use that as a defense to go kick other people's cars though. I can say I've never even thought about pissing on a car handle.
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what about sneaking out of the house when you're in college, huh?
Yeah, thought so.
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Good grief
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134880269.html
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what are you doing ku
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Looks like Kansas is trying to thread the needle for a perfect Title 9 comparison.
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The Facebook comments on that article are incredibly sad, but not surprising.
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I really like this comment. Show accountability.
"Coach Self owes the public NOTHING and especially when it comes to a suspension for Jackson."
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Good grief
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134880269.html
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Come on guys, I'm sure this is just a random coincidence type thing.
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Why would any female athlete even consider KU at this point?
They have multiple Title IX lawsuits from female athletes for worse things being done to them by male athletes and subsequent mis-treatment by coaches.
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Why would any female athlete even consider KU at this point?
They have multiple Title IX lawsuits from female athletes for worse things being done to them by male athletes and subsequent mis-treatment by coaches.
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Part of KU's plan to save money without cutting sports. If no one wants to play in the women's program they don't have to give out any scholarships.
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Why would any female athleteeven consider KU at this point?
They have multiple Title IX lawsuits from female athletes for worse things being done to them by male athletes and subsequent mis-treatment by coaches.
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Good grief
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134880269.html
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Come on guys, I'm sure this is just a random coincidence type thing.
Just glanced at the box score from today's game. Apparently she didn't even play.
I think the message is clear...you don't eff with the franchise.
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Good grief
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134880269.html
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Disgusting
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I guess I missed out in my youth when I never kicked a woman in the face or caused property damage when a woman is upset that my bud kicked her in the face and then went back to my bros house and raped a 16yr old runaway
Youth interrupted
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article134735694.html
My goodness. They are really becoming Baylor Lite.
:surprised: quite the comment on that article
At least 2 cases of battery, vandalism, and a possible rape. Its not quite Baylor FB, but that's a lot of stuff.
Basketball rosters are just a lot smaller than football rosters.
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Leading scorer to DNP. Sure that's normal
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Leading scorer to DNP. Sure that's normal
oscar did that to Foster.
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Douglas Cindy Buchanan · Owner/ President at DB construction of wichita Inc.
Kids will be kids these are men who AR viewed by thousands of kids who might just tak it as it's ok to this type of stuff. The coach needs to keep them in line by what ever means possible to represent the school as a whole and create a good environment parents will feel like it is a good place for there child to grow into a man. If they do this they might not have to pay these kids to come play there.
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Scott Mastenbrook · Account Manager at Alexander Open Systems / AOS
Not a good situation by any means. The good news is everything has been overblown by the media and social media. Laura Bauer (who is obviously trying to make this a bigger story than it is) might want to find out the real reason why Calvert haesn't played. The real reason is her stats. shooting 29% from the field, 23% from 3, 61% from the line, and racking up 35 assists to just 57 turnovers. Josh Jackson should absolutely NOT be suspended. He will pay his legal responsibilities but the price he paid privately to Coach Self was probably far worse. Coach Self owes the public NOTHING and especially when it comes to a suspension for Jackson.
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Scott Mastenbrook · Account Manager at Alexander Open Systems / AOS
Not a good situation by any means. The good news is everything has been overblown by the media and social media. Laura Bauer (who is obviously trying to make this a bigger story than it is) might want to find out the real reason why Calvert haesn't played. The real reason is her stats. shooting 29% from the field, 23% from 3, 61% from the line, and racking up 35 assists to just 57 turnovers. Josh Jackson should absolutely NOT be suspended. He will pay his legal responsibilities but the price he paid privately to Coach Self was probably far worse. Coach Self owes the public NOTHING and especially when it comes to a suspension for Jackson.
lol.
(Bill snaps whip.. come on, boy.. you gotta stay another year or I'll ruin your career, boy)
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^really never lol'd. not sure why I put that.
it's really sad, actually.
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https://youtu.be/ezpcQKsNsUM
Can someone shop Bragg and Vick etc onto some of these guys for a gif?
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https://twitter.com/chrisfickett/status/837830653731299328
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Good Lord
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Neverending
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Just awful. I'm glad someone is reporting on this stuff and drawing attention to it.
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
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https://twitter.com/bmayes04/status/838090197938106368
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
Crazy how people feel the need to defend themselves when an institution is trying to destroy their life.
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
Oh yeah? How so?
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
Oh yeah? How so?
I'm not saying schools can put a "gag order" on victims. They can't. Nor should they. However, it's not in her best interests to comment publicly at this stage. The school legally cannot comment publicly, so if she does speak publicly, and if she is not careful/truthful with her allegations, then she runs the risk of damaging her credibility in the pending proceedings. If she is being entirely truthful, then there is no problem. But even if she thinks she is telling the truth but accidentally misspeaks, it might damage her credibility. In short, there is nothing to gain and something to lose.
It's just like any other legal proceeding: You stand far more to lose than to gain by commenting publicly while the case is pending. To be sure, I'm not making a claim about the merits of this case. How could I? I don't know the facts. I'm merely saying that, at least until there is a final decision, the best advice she could be given is to not speak to media regarding an ongoing investigation.
I hope the preceding is not interpreted as an attempt to protect the University. If the University of guilty of something, they should be liable, and I hope all the bad things in the world happen to them and no one else but them. I feel no reason to blindly protect the University of Kansas. Justice usually prevails, but if it doesn't, then it's time to speak out. I wouldn't want a potentially meritous claim to get submarined by careless talk. That's all I'm saying.
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Spracs - Best to just let it go.
Sounds familiar
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Spracs - Best to just let it go.
Sounds familiar
Choo Choooooooooo
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
Oh yeah? How so?
I'm not saying schools can put a "gag order" on victims. They can't. Nor should they. However, it's not in her best interests to comment publicly at this stage. The school legally cannot comment publicly, so if she does speak publicly, and if she is not careful/truthful with her allegations, then she runs the risk of damaging her credibility in the pending proceedings. If she is being entirely truthful, then there is no problem. But even if she thinks she is telling the truth but accidentally misspeaks, it might damage her credibility. In short, there is nothing to gain and something to lose.
It's just like any other legal proceeding: You stand far more to lose than to gain by commenting publicly while the case is pending. To be sure, I'm not making a claim about the merits of this case. How could I? I don't know the facts. I'm merely saying that, at least until there is a final decision, the best advice she could be given is to not speak to media regarding an ongoing investigation.
I hope the preceding is not interpreted as an attempt to protect the University. If the University of guilty of something, they should be liable, and I hope all the bad things in the world happen to them and no one else but them. I feel no reason to blindly protect the University of Kansas. Justice usually prevails, but if it doesn't, then it's time to speak out. I wouldn't want a potentially meritous claim to get submarined by careless talk. That's all I'm saying.
That's a ton of spracplaining given she didn't say anything, at all. I know you see yourself as the accepted KU fan here but this hit dog is hollering as loud as anyone on the phog.
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She might be shooting herself in the foot by publicly commenting on a Title IX investigation.
Oh yeah? How so?
I'm not saying schools can put a "gag order" on victims. They can't. Nor should they. However, it's not in her best interests to comment publicly at this stage. The school legally cannot comment publicly, so if she does speak publicly, and if she is not careful/truthful with her allegations, then she runs the risk of damaging her credibility in the pending proceedings. If she is being entirely truthful, then there is no problem. But even if she thinks she is telling the truth but accidentally misspeaks, it might damage her credibility. In short, there is nothing to gain and something to lose.
It's just like any other legal proceeding: You stand far more to lose than to gain by commenting publicly while the case is pending. To be sure, I'm not making a claim about the merits of this case. How could I? I don't know the facts. I'm merely saying that, at least until there is a final decision, the best advice she could be given is to not speak to media regarding an ongoing investigation.
I hope the preceding is not interpreted as an attempt to protect the University. If the University of guilty of something, they should be liable, and I hope all the bad things in the world happen to them and no one else but them. I feel no reason to blindly protect the University of Kansas. Justice usually prevails, but if it doesn't, then it's time to speak out. I wouldn't want a potentially meritous claim to get submarined by careless talk. That's all I'm saying.
That's a ton of spracplaining given she didn't say anything, at all. I know you see yourself as the accepted KU fan here but this hit dog is hollering as loud as anyone on the phog.
She did speak, though. Maybe the linked article did not directly quote her, but here's this: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/mar/04/mckenzie-calvert-speaks-about-incident-led-josh-ja/
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Oh. Thanks for that. Your post seems to indicate that she isn't being truthful, what in that article isn't truthful, in your opinion of course?
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Oh. Thanks for that. Your post seems to indicate that she isn't being truthful, what in that article isn't truthful, in your opinion of course?
I'm not suggesting she isn't being truthful. For all I know, everything she said is 100 percent accurate. I simply don't know the truth. I'm just saying she has nothing to gain by speaking at this point. Even if she thinks she is being truthful, if she isn't careful, she's actually giving her adversaries rope to hang her with if she says anything less than the whole truth. Again, I'm not saying she can't speak. I am saying it's not in her best interests to speak while the investigation is still active.
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Keeping quiet is probably the best plan of action here, since, you know, the main suspect will be gone in 2 months anyway. Then, there will be nothing to see or bitch about, right?
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Keeping quiet is probably the best plan of action here, since, you know, the main suspect will be gone in 2 months anyway. Then, there will be nothing to see or bitch about, right?
2 months? Dude will be gone April 3 at the absolute latest.
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Keeping quiet is probably the best plan of action here, since, you know, the main suspect will be gone in 2 months anyway. Then, there will be nothing to see or bitch about, right?
2 months? Dude will be gone April 3 at the absolute latest.
All the more reason spracs wants her to be quiet
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
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I think most people agree that punishing an innocent player for bringing criminal activity to light is worse than not punishing a player for something.
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Oh. Thanks for that. Your post seems to indicate that she isn't being truthful, what in that article isn't truthful, in your opinion of course?
I'm not suggesting she isn't being truthful. For all I know, everything she said is 100 percent accurate. I simply don't know the truth. I'm just saying she has nothing to gain by speaking at this point. Even if she thinks she is being truthful, if she isn't careful, she's actually giving her adversaries rope to hang her with if she says anything less than the whole truth. Again, I'm not saying she can't speak. I am saying it's not in her best interests to speak while the investigation is still active.
Pretty sure the Lawrence mob is going to hang her regardless of how much rope she gives them.
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
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I guess more sports writers are catching on to the "unusual" lack of discipline at KU:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/report-josh-jackson-not-getting-suspended-opens-double-standard-talk-at-ku/
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Spracs - Best to just let it go.
Sounds familiar
That's not at all what was said
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I guess more sports writers are catching on to the "unusual" lack of discipline at KU:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/report-josh-jackson-not-getting-suspended-opens-double-standard-talk-at-ku/
Good. The louder this gets the better.
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
I don't think a 1 game suspension for throwing a drink on somebody is that out of line. It is the complete lack of punishment for the men's players that is inappropriate.
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The discipline was handled within the Cone of Silence. Do not question the Cone of Silence.
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I don't think letting your freshman star play is a big deal. Punishing the girl who took the brunt of these guy's wrath is.
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
I don't think a 1 game suspension for throwing a drink on somebody is that out of line. It is the complete lack of punishment for the men's players that is inappropriate.
Both are incredibly inappropriate. A one game suspension and essentially losing your spot in the rotation for throwing a drink on someone is absurd. The biggest absurdity of it all is the women's coach screwing with her playing time the rest of the season, therefore screwing with the entire team. Either she deserved the playing time or she didn't, throwing a drink on someone shouldn't dictate how you manage your entire team.
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You're talking about a team he gang raped a 15-year old without any repercussions. You think knocking around a fellow student athlete is going to garner punishment at that place? Please
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The KU Star had an interesting editorial:
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article136359533.html
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
I don't think a 1 game suspension for throwing a drink on somebody is that out of line. It is the complete lack of punishment for the men's players that is inappropriate.
The same guy that hit her a year earlier? Yeah let's go ahead and assume he was just being a stellar guy and got a drink poured out over him
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
I don't think a 1 game suspension for throwing a drink on somebody is that out of line. It is the complete lack of punishment for the men's players that is inappropriate.
The same guy that hit her a year earlier? Yeah let's go ahead and assume he was just being a stellar guy and got a drink poured out over him
I'm sure he deserved to have a drink poured on him. That doesn't change that she represents KU and poured a drink on a guy in public. Jackson also represents KU and he vandalized a vehicle in public. He absolutely should have at the very least missed a game.
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The KU Star had an interesting editorial:
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article136359533.html
Robert Pasmore · Works at Retired-Unitog Rental Services.
This young lady(basketball player) is bad news. Perhaps she would be happier at an all girls school.
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Ha, that editorial is on the star's kuhoops fan site.
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Instead, we get this from the coach: “It’s certainly been taxing. … Kids should be able to go out and relax and have fun and play the game they love, even though it’s playing for pretty high stakes. And those things that transpire probably didn’t allow them to do that quite as much, which is disappointing.”
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The women's basketball coach should be fired and KU is looking squarely down the barrel of a title IX lawsuit.
Why Fire the women's coach and not Bill Self?
Isn't he responsible for how he treats his player?
I don't think a 1 game suspension for throwing a drink on somebody is that out of line. It is the complete lack of punishment for the men's players that is inappropriate.
The same guy that hit her a year earlier? Yeah let's go ahead and assume he was just being a stellar guy and got a drink poured out over him
I'm sure he deserved to have a drink poured on him. That doesn't change that she represents KU and poured a drink on a guy in public. Jackson also represents KU and he vandalized a vehicle in public. He absolutely should have at the very least missed a game.
Good grief. She reps KU by shaming ass holes. The university should support that.
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The KU Star had an interesting editorial:
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article136359533.html
Robert Pasmore · Works at Retired-Unitog Rental Services.
This young lady(basketball player) is bad news. Perhaps she would be happier at an all girls school.
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His throat and hands need to be ended
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They almost are. He's like a 90 year old racist, with Trump crap all over his Facebook wall. Dude is old school AF and will never change.
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This was probably my favorite FB profile pic of his. :lol:
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Sad that the Star has to run a smear campaign against KU basketball just to get clicks. This is a non-story. Violence against women, drug abuse, criminal vandalism, rape. Just kids being kids. Give it up KC Star! Pathetic!
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Instead, we get this from the coach: “It’s certainly been taxing. … Kids should be able to go out and relax and have fun and play the game they love, even though it’s playing for pretty high stakes. And those things that transpire probably didn’t allow them to do that quite as much, which is disappointing.”
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This is a quote from self?
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Instead, we get this from the coach: “It’s certainly been taxing. … Kids should be able to go out and relax and have fun and play the game they love, even though it’s playing for pretty high stakes. And those things that transpire probably didn’t allow them to do that quite as much, which is disappointing.”
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This is a quote from self?
Yes
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Jfc
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Self is such a piece of crap. Good lord.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
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Good god. I wish I lived in Lawrence. eff all of this.
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You're like 20 miles away sdk. What's your plan?
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I tell ya. There's nothing worse than having to listen to crap and distractions. Especially coming from women.
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I tell ya. There's nothing worse than having to listen to crap and distractions. Especially coming from women.
Seen and not heard . . . when I want your opinion I'll give it to you woman
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Very sad that Briles had to leave Baylor due to distractions.
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Instead, we get this from the coach: “It’s certainly been taxing. … Kids should be able to go out and relax and have fun and play the game they love, even though it’s playing for pretty high stakes. And those things that transpire probably didn’t allow them to do that quite as much, which is disappointing.”
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Holy crap
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Man, that McCarthy Hall Sexual Assault suspect must be elusive (or transferred out of KU on or about 1/31/17).
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Man, that McCarthy Hall Sexual Assault suspect must be elusive (or transferred out of KU on or about 1/31/17).
The KU Campus Police probably moved that case behind several lost wallet and stolen cell phone reports. That's how pros make sure things don't get done.
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Man, that McCarthy Hall Sexual Assault suspect must be elusive (or transferred out of KU on or about 1/31/17).
The KU Campus Police probably moved that case behind several lost wallet and stolen cell phone reports. That's how pros make sure things don't get done.
That IPad caper is a time consumer
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You're like 20 miles away sdk. What's your plan?
If I came across any of these horrible folks while wasted. I'd get locked away for a long time. It's to my benefit and theirs that I am in Topeka. This is all so ridiculous. And I wouldn't be able to restrain myself.
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Guys, just thinking about the "fan experience" at AFH which includes storming out of the building en masse with five minutes left in the game, when it appears the home team is about to lose a game by a fairly substantial margin, only to stand in the tunnel like a bunch of blue hair KU Karls as the team makes a great comeback.
"Terrific" basketball (only) fans . . . as long is everything is going perfectly. :thumbsup:
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They cleared that player who fired his girlfriend down the stairs in like 24 hours. The rape seems to be taking a bit longer, even though it occurred in a highly secured building with surveillance cameras in every common area. of well, distractions and crap
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They cleared that player who fired his girlfriend down the stairs in like 24 hours. The rape seems to be taking a bit longer, even though it occurred in a highly secured building with surveillance cameras in every common area. of well, distractions and crap
Just a bullshit distraction Dug, just slow roll this thing until everyone just forgets about it.
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It'll be handled in house once the season is over.
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sad to see so many of you fall for the witch hunt that the kansas sucky star has propagated against kansas athletics. WAKE UP!
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
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[To the tune of "let's go fly a kite"]
Let's go gang rape a 15-year old...
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
As pissed as I've been at some of the rough ridin'stupid things Oscar has said during his time in MHK, I'm proud that he's never stooped to this level.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
It's just too bad all of this crap has kept them from going out, relaxing, and having fun.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
It's just too bad all of this crap has kept them from going out, relaxing, and having fun.
that's the real shame
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
It's just too bad all of this crap has kept them from going out, relaxing, and having fun.
that's the real shame
It's terrible. An entire year of their college experience has been destroyed. They'll never get it back.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
So I would say that’s a proud thing. You know, as a coach, you want your team to be — to rally around things. You want them to be tough.
You've got to be rough ridin' kidding me.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
It's just too bad all of this crap has kept them from going out, relaxing, and having fun.
that's the real shame
It's terrible. An entire year of their college experience has been destroyed. They'll never get it back.
Well, an entire 3 months. They were wilding out first semester.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article136116183.html
The quote with full context is here.
Wow, it might be worse with full context
Is the investigation of the rape of a minor in a building occupied almost exclusively by men's basketball players (it was after finals were over I believe, so who else would be there?), classified as crap or a distraction by Bill?
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Either way, he's really proud of how well they've been focusing on basketball during this tough time.
It's just too bad all of this crap has kept them from going out, relaxing, and having fun.
that's the real shame
It's terrible. An entire year of their college experience has been destroyed. They'll never get it back.
Shame on both of you. How do you think she feels? How about her? And all you two want to focus on is how a guy is impacted. How the eff about her?
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PS I really enjoy my persona on here. I know few people know when I'm serious and when I'm not. I'm all over the place and I know that and I take advantage of that. I'd been wanting to share that for the past two days. So there it is. I love you all.
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Josh Jackson suspended?
https://twitter.com/mctait/status/839502604191350785
https://twitter.com/mctait/status/839502923256193024
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They won the conference. What does missing the tournament mean? Nothing. He will be back for the NCAA tournament and it's business as usual.
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Such crazy fortune that players just happen to get suspended for games that don't matter and then come back for games like the NCAAs or KSU.
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Lol, a punishment unbefitting the crime to give the appearance of being a disciplinarian.
:golfclap
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masta seff: "hey josh, need you to rest up for the ncaa tournament, take a few days off. AND NO RAPING PEOPLE TODAY, PLEASE!!"
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Hasn't one of the main KU fan talking points been that Calvert was involved in a hit-and-run last year so she is a bad person, can't be trusted, trouble follows her around, etc.?
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LOL
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Hasn't one of the main KU fan talking points been that Calvert was involved in a hit-and-run last year so she is a bad person, can't be trusted, trouble follows her around, etc.?
well you see this is different
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Hasn't one of the main KU fan talking points been that Calvert was involved in a hit-and-run last year so she is a bad person, can't be trusted, trouble follows her around, etc.?
Yes. And she has receipts to show she paid for the damage from that.
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I think it's pretty neat that, in Lawrence, if you have one BBall player doing over $1,000 of damage to a car it's a felony, but if you have a bunch that do like 3x that amount, it's "Welp, no way to know who did what, so its probably NBD."
Have we ever considered how much better of a recruiter oscar would be if the Manhattan PD had a similar policy?
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Self just said he talks with his team a lot about all the bad stuff they do, but this one Josh didn't bring up. Darn. - #KUPresser
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Have I said lately how much I want to fight all these assholes?
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Nolan Smith, Kyle Singler, and Kyrie Irving were afraid to take a picture with trim and I because they didn't want to deal with Coach K if we put it on twitter, yet we have what is seemingly half of KU's team terrorizing an entire city.
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Nolan Smith, Kyle Singler, and Kyrie Irving
I remember honorary EMAW Nolan Smith but not the 2 future nba players.
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Nolan Smith, Kyle Singler, and Kyrie Irving
I remember honorary EMAW Nolan Smith but not the 2 future nba players.
Kyrie was petrified, literally said "Nah man, coach"
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It was more about the pak head though, right?
Man, those were eventful paks at the cp.
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It was more about the pak head though, right?
Man, those were eventful paks at the cp.
We were both wearing gE gear as well. Nolan said "naw man we cain't take no pictures."
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Old Billy Self just said the Jackson suspension was a combination of the hit & run and being a car kicker.
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LOL
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Attention disgruntled teenage girls in Lawrence...tonight is not the night to run away from home.
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Old Billy Self just said the Jackson suspension was a combination of the hit & run and being a car kicker.
Heard that too...I thought it was already handled internally. If that was enough earlier why isn't it enough now?
Also pretty much disproves the whole "whatever punishment he had to endure with Self was worse than a suspension would have been" talking point.
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Old Billy Self just said the Jackson suspension was a combination of the hit & run and being a car kicker.
Self: "I thought about making them two different suspensions, but after losing to TCU, I'm like eff that."
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Big Game Bill
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New Story:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137546843.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137546843.html)
A lawyer for KU basketball star Josh Jackson offered restitution — where “money is no object, within reason” — to the family of women’s player McKenzie Calvert if they agreed not to seek charges against Jackson, according to Calvert’s father.
Tim Calvert said the offer came on Feb. 4, nearly two months after his daughter’s car was vandalized and two days after The Kansas City Star reported that Jackson and another University of Kansas men’s player were people of interest in the case.
“They wanted to pay to make it all go away,” Calvert said. “But it wouldn’t have gone away for my daughter. It would have been great for Josh, but not for McKenzie. ... This was never about money for me, it was about how my daughter was treated.”
Calvert said Lawrence attorney Hatem Chahine later put several stipulations on the restitution: that the family not pursue an investigation with the university; that they agree damages Jackson made to the car were of a misdemeanor amount; and, ultimately, to agree they did not want the vandalism prosecuted.
During the Feb. 4 call, Calvert said he told the lawyer that the car was already fixed and insurance had taken care of all but his $250 deductible. There was nothing else to pay for, he told Chahine.
“There must have been other expenses,” Calvert said the attorney responded.
Calvert said he refused to accept any of the stipulations — two of them spelled out in a draft of an affidavit given to Calvert on Feb. 6 and obtained by The Star — or sign anything.
Jackson, 20, was charged Feb. 24 with misdemeanor property damage. He’s scheduled to be arraigned in Douglas County District Court on April 12.
The Star sent Chahine a list of questions, including whether he attempted to offer restitution to make the case go away. He did not respond to those questions. Chahine said he had been hired as local counsel for Jackson and forwarded a statement that attorney Scott Boatman released last week.
“Josh has already made a statement regarding this incident, which occurred almost three months ago in December,” said Boatman, a Denver attorney who has represented professional athletes. “The incident actually started in the club and did not initially involve Josh at all. Josh attempted to intervene to help and protect a teammate and unfortunately the matter escalated. Josh has apologized for his actions and has also offered to pay for any damages that he directly caused. He looks forward to moving past this so that he is able to focus on school and basketball.”
The reported vandalism happened outside the Yacht Club bar and restaurant in Lawrence just before 2 a.m. on Dec. 9. McKenzie Calvert and friends were leaving the club when she threw a drink inside the bar at Lagerald Vick, whom she had dated the year before. The Star earlier reported that a KU investigation in late 2015 and early 2016 had found that Vick likely struck Calvert multiple times. Vick has not been charged with a crime.
After Calvert threw the drink, Jackson allegedly followed her out and began kicking her car when she was in the driver’s seat. Calvert’s family released a statement last week to the newspaper describing the incident. Once other basketball players stopped Jackson, the family said, the men’s players left the scene and Calvert called 911.
Within hours of that call, Calvert has said that her coach, Brandon Schneider, suspended her and banned her from Allen Fieldhouse Dec. 9 and 10 for her actions inside the Yacht Club. The suspension initially was to include the Dec. 11 game against Rhode Island but was rescinded after Tim Calvert complained that Jackson wouldn’t be missing his game.
The university, including Schneider, has not answered questions regarding Calvert and her suspension. An official with the athletic department also did not respond to questions about the restitution offer.
After Jackson was charged with the misdemeanor, men’s coach Bill Self said Jackson had been disciplined “in-house” immediately after the incident. What that means, and what it included, wasn’t disclosed.
Jackson started all of KU’s regular season games but was suspended for Thursday’s Big 12 tournament opener following an unrelated traffic violation.
Jackson issued a statement after he was charged saying he was sorry and that he had “offered to pay for any damage that I directly caused.”
Tim Calvert takes issue with that.
“He’s making it seem like he offered an immediate deep apology and wanted to pay for things and take care of things, and they did not,” Calvert said. “No one contacted us before Feb. 4. ... They didn’t say, ‘How can we pay the auto shop for your car repair?’ It wasn’t that innocent.”
When Chahine called on Feb. 4, Calvert said, the attorney told him that Jackson’s mother didn’t know about the incident until recently and, if she had known, she would have immediately reached out to him had she been told about it. Efforts to reach Jackson’s mother, Apples Jones, have been unsuccessful and Chahine did not address a request from The Star to get in touch with her.
“He told me, ‘She would have wanted to pay for the damages,’ ” Calvert said.
On Feb. 6, Calvert said, his attorney called and said that Jackson’s attorney wanted to discuss whether the family would work with him to lower the damage to a misdemeanor charge rather than a felony. Damage over $1,000 is classified as a felony — the total damage to Calvert’s car was listed as $2,991 on the police report, but witnesses could not identify who threw a heavy object at the windshield, breaking it.
“Our family never pushed for a felony charge,” Calvert said. “When I sat in the district attorney’s office, I told him, ‘I would not want a young man to have a felony for car vandalism.’ We never wanted that. We wanted accountability.”
Calvert said they wanted an investigation into how KU treated McKenzie in the wake of the vandalism report. At the end of January, Tim Calvert said, no coach from either team had reported the Yacht Club incident to KU’s Office of Institutional Opportunity & Access, which handles Title IX complaints.
Calvert said he and his attorney then sent a letter to that office asking for an investigation of the Dec. 9 incident and how his daughter has been treated since.
Chahine initially told Calvert’s attorney that if he accepted restitution he would have to stop any action with the university, Calvert said. He and his wife were “shocked.”
“We were thinking, if that’s our son, and we were worried about him getting a felony, the last thing we’d be worried about is if (someone is concerned about) KU,” Calvert said. “I told my attorney, ‘No way.’ ”.
Calvert’s attorney then received the proposed affidavit from Jackson’s attorney detailing the stipulations. There was nothing in writing about not seeking a KU investigation but, Calvert said, it did include him agreeing to other things he wasn’t comfortable with.
No. 4: “The amount of damage to the rear of the vehicle allegedly caused by Mr. Joshua Jackson is $_____. (Less than $1,000.)”
Witnesses, including McKenzie, had already told police that Jackson kicked the door, Calvert said. Plus, it was nearly two months after the insurance company had already paid for all the repairs.
Ultimately, the Calverts declined the offer.
“We were not going to lie and say something happened that didn’t,” Calvert said. “We knew there were 10 or 12 people who gave statements saying that he kicked the door, so how are we now going to say he just kicked the taillight?”
Stipulation No. 7 would have required Calvert to agree that he didn’t “wish to have this matter prosecuted.” That is the first time anyone had even mentioned not seeking charges, he said. And the family wasn’t prepared to do that.
“If he never was charged, people would think, ‘He’s just a dude that walked by a car and kicked it,’ ” Calvert said. “It wasn’t that small, not to our family. It wasn’t that minor.”
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Those dirty dirty jayhawks
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I didn't know about breaking her windshield, she must have been scared shitless
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"Yacht Club"
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Pretty sure you can't bargain for a lie in connection with a criminal investigation
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It's strange to me that the charge is a misdemeanor because the police can't prove how much damage Jackson was individually responsible for. It seems like a group of people participated in a felony and normally would be charged that way, but maybe I'm wrong.
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It's not prorated, they're basically saying it's not impossible that someone came along later and vandalized the car more, or some stupid crap like that.
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I think Jackson's lawyer dug up the fact that the car had previously been involved in the exact same "leaving the scene" of a fender bender Jackson was later charged with and presented that as reasonable doubt for the damage that occurred that night as well as the "who knows who threw the brick" bit.
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That lawyer is a rough ridin' idiot if he actually put any of that crap in writing.
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It's strange to me that the charge is a misdemeanor because the police can't prove how much damage Jackson was individually responsible for. It seems like a group of people participated in a felony and normally would be charged that way, but maybe I'm wrong.
Yea, I'm not clear on whether the police are saying that it's possible the car was already damaged before they started going ape-crap on it, or whether they just don't know how much damage is attributable to each person. If it's the second, then it seems like you would just call it aiding and abetting a felony for each person involved and they would be charged the same. At either rate, I feel better knowing the victim specifically asked that it not be charged as a felony. I HOPE that was a major factor in the DA's decision (much more so than the lame excuse they gave to the public).
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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I'm sure it's just Jackson's personal attorney who he paid out of pocket and has no connection whatsoever to the university.
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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I wondered that too.
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Laura Bauer is making a name for herself, one I can't write here. Journalism is dead in this country. All that remains is political propaganda and jerks with a four year degree who think they own the moral high ground on every topic.
I'm not blaming her.. but why did she throw a drink on Vick... Talk is talk... but throwing that drink escalated everything... The lawyer part shouldnt suprise anyone this is Americas judical system where the people with money and or resourses always find a way out. Nothing in life is fair we need to get past that part of the story.
Maybe you should try to find a different source other than Calvert's dad for your articles. You are blowing up news about Josh Jackson to try to make it look like it is something it's not. The lawyer is doing his job by offering money to make it go away. IT's CALLED A SETTLEMENT!
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Ya know... cause and effect. Girl throws drink at Vick from outside a bar. Ran off and things got crazy. She doesn't throw a drink, things don't get crazy. Maybe her Dad could offer some insight on her behavior?
Lol he broke a light not like he totaled out the car. She's lucky some girl didn't beat her ass
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They are destroying this girl
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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josh has two lawyers, the lawrence attorney, chahine and his counsel out of denver, scott boatman. pretty normal for a college kid, i'd assume. now please can we put this issue to rest so he can focus on school?
“Josh has already made a statement regarding this incident, which occurred almost three months ago in December,” said Boatman, a Denver attorney who has represented professional athletes.
leave the kid alone
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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josh has two lawyers, the lawrence attorney, chahine and his counsel out of denver, scott boatman. pretty normal for a college kid, i'd assume. now please can we put this issue to rest so he can focus on school?
“Josh has already made a statement regarding this incident, which occurred almost three months ago in December,” said Boatman, a Denver attorney who has represented professional athletes.
leave the kid alone
So he has a lawyer who sells islands on the side. BFD.
http://pronetcapital.com/ (http://pronetcapital.com/)
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http://www.denverpost.com/2006/03/10/pro-athletes-take-shot-at-island-real-estate-game/
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Laura Bauer is making a name for herself, one I can't write here. Journalism is dead in this country. All that remains is political propaganda and jerks with a four year degree who think they own the moral high ground on every topic.
Stupid jerks with four year degrees ruining everything. :chainsaw:
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"This is America where people with money and resources always find a way out..."
Wonder where that money came from?
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Laura Bauer is making a name for herself, one I can't write here. Journalism is dead in this country. All that remains is political propaganda and jerks with a four year degree who think they own the moral high ground on every topic.
Stupid jerks with four year degrees ruining everything. :chainsaw:
That's....that's amazing :lol:
Trashing higher education while cheering on a higher education institution.
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Pretty sure you can't bargain for a lie in connection with a criminal investigation
pretty sure you are right
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Can I get a thread synopsis?
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They are destroying this girl
Well she did throw a drink on someone who had previously punched her and kicked her in the face. If that's not deserving of having your life destroyed I don't know what is.
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Yea, I'm not clear on whether the police are saying that it's possible the car was already damaged before they started going ape-crap on it, or whether they just don't know how much damage is attributable to each person. If it's the second, then it seems like you would just call it aiding and abetting a felony for each person involved and they would be charged the same. At either rate, I feel better knowing the victim specifically asked that it not be charged as a felony. I HOPE that was a major factor in the DA's decision (much more so than the lame excuse they gave to the public).
The severity of the charge is a discretion of the prosecuting attorney. When Bragg got instant diversion for his paraphanalia charge, like within a couple of day, that should tell you all you need to know how aggressively the Douglas Co DA will prosecute Jackson.
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known dumbasses like Tully Corcoran and Nate Bukaty are on twitter claiming they were just trying to settle the case.
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known dumbasses like Tully Corcoran and Nate Bukaty are on twitter claiming they were just trying to settle the case.
Seems reasonable. Most settlement offer usually do go like "How much to make this go away?"
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:bwpopcorn:
https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/840285592474812417
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Seems like it might be sort of rare to allow settlement offers in criminal cases.
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guess who you settle a property damage case with if it has been paid for by the insurer?
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Seems like it might be sort of rare to allow settlement offers in criminal cases.
Yes, that's the rub. In civil cases it's a settlement. In criminal cases it's a bribe.
The lawyer chose his words carefully so that it sounded like an offer of restitution. "Oh, sorry for the damage to your car, let's not go through the hassle of fixing it and just replace it with this Corvette. It's the least we can do...as long as you swear under oath Jackson did nothing wrong."
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BITB just said there is more and bigger stories that Star is sitting on.... :Carl:
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BITB just said there is more and bigger stories that Star is sitting on.... :Carl:
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BITB emphasized last night when the new article came out that there is still an ongoing rape investigation with 5 KU players named as witnesses. He also emphasized that a witness could also be a suspect but has not been named yet due to the ongoing investigation. BITB loves to fish.
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Kegan going to work on this girl's character.
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Kegan going to work on this girl's character.
I liked the reason he gave for her throwing a drink on him: "because, I don't know, he wouldn't date her anymore." :lol:
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This stupid slut is getting what's coming to her
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This stupid slut is getting what's coming to her
NO STEVE DAVE!!!(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Ficon11.gif&hash=e2fb8e8f9f71177b1d2be6ea509757a6efac8fd6)
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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This is the exact question that came to mind. Are these lawyers offering up their cash based on Jackson's future earning potential?
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Naw, he just bills annually
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So ah, who is paying for a lawyer offering, "money is no object" settlements?
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This is the exact question that came to mind. Are these lawyers offering up their cash based on Jackson's future earning potential?
Also, what is their affiliation with KU? Is this an improper benefit if they're doing pro-bono work and also falling under the purvue of NCAA booster rules? If so, looks like they're going to be doing a lot of pro-bono work for a lot of KU students (like any student who asks), otherwise, it's an improper benefit.
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Does anyone remember the lawyers who helped out Darrell Arthur? Wasn't that lawyer also on KU's roll for something else?
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Coach Self is spittin mad about this whole situation. It's a shame that this witch-hunt keeps rearing its ugly head during tourney time.
"To be real candid with you, I'm mad at the situation, but I'm not necessarily pointing fingers and saying that I'm mad at an individual or a parent or anything like that," he said, "because here's the reality of it: You don't know, I don't know, (Tim Calvert) doesn't know what transpired.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18901311/josh-jackson-miss-ncaa-tournament-games-kansas-jayhawks-coach-bill-self-says (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18901311/josh-jackson-miss-ncaa-tournament-games-kansas-jayhawks-coach-bill-self-says)
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no one knows anything, it's a big mystery!
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Heard that on 810 yesterday. Apparently Bill doesn't think the victim has been "educated" enough by the school or women's basketball team about what really happened that night (which bill says he has no details about)
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Bill said it best. No one knows what happened, so why should the police investigate going around asking witnesses like their star BBall player about it during the tourney? Stupid distractions.
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Just a mystery wrapped inside of an enigma I tell ya.
A real head scratcher.
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Will the KU players even be able to relax and have fun playing in this tournament with all the irritating questions surrounding these mysterious, unknowable events? Sad.
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I'm sure the players know that Seff will protect them from another viscous chicken winging hit piece from the KSU Star.
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I think Bill's real point is that the victim is going to come out soon and reveal the truth that none of this actually happened.
That is, if she knows what's good for her, of course.
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The rape of a 16 year old runaway only has 5 witnesses (KU men's BB players). Not enough to plumb the depths of this mystery. Time to move on, there simply isn't enough evidence to discuss this further.
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KU should hire Art Briles to coach their football team.
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KU should hire Art Briles to coach their football team.
There wouldn't be a single woman safe in Lawrence.
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Briles and Self would make quite a pair... they could be famous rape bro's coaches. I'm sure KU fans would approve.
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Really the only reason for them to not hire him at this point would be that they just prefer to suck at football.
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KU should hire Art Briles to coach their football team.
There wouldn't be a single woman safe in Lawrence.
so, no change
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Really the only reason for them to not hire him at this point would be that they just prefer to suck at football.
He's also going to require more than $800k/year. So that could be a problem. I mean, they already have to pay extra for lawyers to make stuff "go away" for the bball players.
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Really the only reason for them to not hire him at this point would be that they just prefer to suck at football.
He's also going to require more than $800k/year. So that could be a problem. I mean, they already have to pay extra for lawyers to make stuff "go away" for the bball players.
What is the 800k in reference to?
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That's what Dave baty makes
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Really the only reason for them to not hire him at this point would be that they just prefer to suck at football.
He's also going to require more than $800k/year. So that could be a problem. I mean, they already have to pay extra for lawyers to make stuff "go away" for the bball players.
He wouldn't take much more than that. There just aren't enough KUs and Baylors out there for him to have options.
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Is Penn St hiring?
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That's what Dave baty makes
Lol, no
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I forgot about dat win bonus :love:
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:bwpopcorn:
https://twitter.com/josephfmonaco/status/841811572649558016
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That guy should send his resume to trump
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Why would Calvert want to have a public conversation with a university that is engaged in all matter of bad will and misdeeds in order to protect their image?
Had the university handled the situation correctly straight out, it's highly unlikely that the issue would have gone as far as it has.
This is at least the 3rd female athlete at KU within the last 2 or 3 years who has had Title IX issues with the university and has faced retribution from the school and athletic department because they had the audacity to come forward after they were assaulted and/or mistreated by male athletes and the school and athletic department retaliated against the female (victim).
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"We are prohibited by law from commenting on Title IX investigations, that's why we cannot provide any facts or reasoning to back up our accusations THAT BITCH IS LYING!"
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:bwpopcorn:
https://twitter.com/josephfmonaco/status/841811572649558016
My God what a crap show, university officials threatening a current student over a little bit of bad publicity their followers couldn't care less about? I honestly think that threat is the worst thing I've seen out of this.
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:bwpopcorn:
https://twitter.com/josephfmonaco/status/841811572649558016
My God what a crap show, university officials threatening a current student over a little bit of bad publicity their followers couldn't care less about? I honestly think that threat is the worst thing I've seen out of this.
I don't know, I really enjoyed the half step away he is from calling her and the Star fake news.
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Just needs to talk about how much of a loser the girl is and how her basketball ratings are very bad. SAD!
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They should be absolutely embarrassed by the fact there are multiple ongoing investigations going on, instead they flaunt it as an excuse to obfuscate and cast shade on the newspaper. So weird.
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Title IX investigations are the ultimate sword and shield.
Joe Monaco, resident psychpath
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Can you imagine the outcry if failing McKenzie Calvert, declining minutes and all, had accused a K-State player of abusing her? The papers wouldn't cover that. FAKE NEWS.
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Look, we can't discuss Title IX investigations. That I will tell you. We're not discussing it. Okay? And I understand what you're saying. And I get that from so many people. 'Can you discuss Title IX?' They are asking me the question, 'Can you discuss Title IX?' And Title IX is important. That I can tell you. Okay? It's important. But we're not going to discuss it.
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Need to add: "But we are dealing with some very bad people, ok? Very nasty. People that want to destroy this great university of ours. And only I can stop them."
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Yahoo reporting Josh Jackson yelled he was going to beat her ass as he was kicking and punching her car
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/ku-basketball-news/article138906253.html
Sorry, downstream little brother, that affidavit supports charging Jackson with a felony. If they wanted to avoid the felony, they could have pled down to a misdemeanor in order to get something out of Jackson, like restitution and some type of anger management course.
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The affidavit describes what happened as told to police by several witnesses, including two members of the KU women’s basketball team. Players Caelynn Manning-Allen and Eboni Watts were interviewed on Jan. 30, nearly two months after Calvert’s car was damaged and three days after The Star requested the police report from Lawrence police.
Police officer Scott Chamberlain talked to Calvert at the scene. Nearly four hours later, at 5:46 a.m., the officer interviewed Jackson in a third-floor study room at McCarthy Hall, the men’s basketball players’ dorm, with head coach Bill Self present.
this is rough ridin' unbelievable
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/ku-basketball-news/article138906253.html
Sorry, downstream little brother, that affidavit supports charging Jackson with a felony. If they wanted to avoid the felony, they could have pled down to a misdemeanor in order to get something out of Jackson, like restitution and some type of anger management course.
What in the eff. He wasn't even detained and then ran to self?
"the officer interviewed Jackson in a third-floor study room at McCarthy Hall, the men’s basketball players’ dorm, with head coach Bill Self present."
And want it ku Karl's contention she threw the drink at Jackson so this was all just "self-defense?"
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https://twitter.com/KJHKsports/status/842482614292353025
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The affidavit describes what happened as told to police by several witnesses, including two members of the KU women’s basketball team. Players Caelynn Manning-Allen and Eboni Watts were interviewed on Jan. 30, nearly two months after Calvert’s car was damaged and three days after The Star requested the police report from Lawrence police.
Police officer Scott Chamberlain talked to Calvert at the scene. Nearly four hours later, at 5:46 a.m., the officer interviewed Jackson in a third-floor study room at McCarthy Hall, the men’s basketball players’ dorm, with head coach Bill Self present.
this is rough ridin' unbelievable
This reminds me a lot of the Jameis Winston situation. Yikes.
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They are so vastly superior than us at being big time at sports. In the good old days we could get Chad May out of a DUI, but it has been a long time since we put athletics first in Manhattan.
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I can't keep up with all of the criminal activities coming out of McCarthy Hall. Fortunately, the Star put together a nice video that summarizes everything.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137308418.html
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They are so vastly superior than us at being big time at sports. In the good old days we could get Chad May out of a DUI, but it has been a long time since we put athletics first in Manhattan.
Whatever, but providing shade for the rape of a minor is a bit of an overreach, don't you think?
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They are so vastly superior than us at being big time at sports. In the good old days we could get Chad May out of a DUI, but it has been a long time since we put athletics first in Manhattan.
Whatever, but providing shade for the rape of a minor is a bit of an overreach, don't you think?
Who raped a minor? LHC Bill Snyder offered a scholarship to a guy he knew murdered someone, so I feel like we maybe shouldn't cast stones.
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They are so vastly superior than us at being big time at sports. In the good old days we could get Chad May out of a DUI, but it has been a long time since we put athletics first in Manhattan.
Whatever, but providing shade for the rape of a minor is a bit of an overreach, don't you think?
Who raped a minor? LHC Bill Snyder offered a scholarship to a guy he knew murdered someone, so I feel like we maybe shouldn't cast stones.
There's a hell of a difference between providing someone a second chance and aiding and abetting.
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One is alleged, and the other was proven in both criminal and civil court. Maybe they will prove Josh committed a felony someday, but who knows?
Also, what are the restrictions for the "second chance" rule to apply? Perhaps Josh was getting his "second chance" at that time?
Personally, I believe he is guilty as hell, but I admire the hell out of KU's athletic machine.
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Well Pete does have a point. Golly, we've fallen off a cliff when it comes to the MCMW factor.
Meanwhile the blotter is white hot (as usual) over at JCCC-L.
It kind of makes you a little verklempt thinking about Coach Seff rising in the predawn hours to assist and mentor the youngster as he got the old hot lamp treatment from the Fife's of Larrytown PD.
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To be fair to LHC Bill Snyder he did pull the second chance out from under the kid once the media found out about it.
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One is alleged, and the other was proven in both criminal and civil court. Maybe they will prove Josh committed a felony someday, but who knows?
Also, what are the restrictions for the "second chance" rule to apply? Perhaps Josh was getting his "second chance" at that time?
Personally, I believe he is guilty as hell, but I admire the hell out of KU's athletic machine.
I know we live and die by "innocent until proven guilty," but this is some pretty awful circular reasoning. The biggest concern at this point is the apparent obstruction of justice going on in every step of these investigations.
To say "we will just see if they are proven guilty" completely ignores that. That means you would be ok with knowing Josh Jackson lied to police with Bill Self's guidance, and that other university representatives tried to bribe and threaten key witnesses to keep quiet, all as long as there were no criminal convictions at the end of the day.
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One is alleged, and the other was proven in both criminal and civil court. Maybe they will prove Josh committed a felony someday, but who knows?
Also, what are the restrictions for the "second chance" rule to apply? Perhaps Josh was getting his "second chance" at that time?
Personally, I believe he is guilty as hell, but I admire the hell out of KU's athletic machine.
I've never really viewed it as a coach's duty to keep players that might commit crimes from ever coming to campus. It is the cover up of the crimes that happen after they arrive that bothers me.
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One is alleged, and the other was proven in both criminal and civil court. Maybe they will prove Josh committed a felony someday, but who knows?
Also, what are the restrictions for the "second chance" rule to apply? Perhaps Josh was getting his "second chance" at that time?
Personally, I believe he is guilty as hell, but I admire the hell out of KU's athletic machine.
I know we live and die by "innocent until proven guilty," but this is some pretty awful circular reasoning. The biggest concern at this point is the apparent obstruction of justice going on in every step of these investigations.
To say "we will just see if they are proven guilty" completely ignores that. That means you would be ok with knowing Josh Jackson lied to police with Bill Self's guidance, and that other university representatives tried to bribe and threaten key witnesses to keep quiet, all as long as there were no criminal convictions at the end of the day.
No one gives a crap about what I believe or care about, nor should they.
I am simply saying that it is my belief that KU does a vastly superior job of protecting their most valuable athletic programs, and I do not believe our inferiority is due to us taking the moral high ground. My personal belief is that we are inferior due to incompetence, and placing trust in individuals who cared more for themselves than our valuable programs (e.g Jamar's receipt, Frank, defying Bill on scheduling and any other matter).
K-State is inferior, to KU, in my opinion, when it comes to a commitment to protecting their most valuable programs.
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i give a crap about what you believe and care about, pete
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Self: "Certainly his (Jackson's) role or playing time, whatever will only be dictated by what happens between the lines. It won’t be dictated by anything else. I think he’s ready to go.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article139032043.html#storylink=cpy
So look out women in vehicles in Tulsa this weekend. Josh has just been given the green light to threaten to hurt you and kick-away at your car!
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Man I really want to tweet this crap at Jay Bilas. Where is his outrage about protecting student athletes now.
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Tragic to see these student athletes having to persevere thru all of these distractions.
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"Self: "Certainly his (Jackson's) role or playing time, whatever will only be dictated by what happens between the lines. It won’t be dictated by anything else. I think he’s ready to go.”
WOW, that's full on nuclear option stuff right there. :thumbsup:
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Guess the context:
A) basketball game
B) trapped inside your car in the yacht club parking lot
https://twitter.com/tullycorcoran/status/843576730950483969
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Guess the contest:
A) basketball game
B) trapped inside your car in the yacht club parking lot
https://twitter.com/tullycorcoran/status/843576730950483969
This would be better as a quoted tweet.
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This would be better as a quoted tweet.
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Couldn't, #blocked.
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Guess the contest:
A) basketball game
B) trapped inside your car in the yacht club parking lot
https://twitter.com/tullycorcoran/status/843576730950483969
LOL
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KU is going to get this done. They'll sweep that rape of a 16yo runaway girl by members of the men's BB team under the rug until they clinch the championship, and then worry about the fallout later. This is professional grade college athletics cheating, and I for one am totally jealous.
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The violence toward and treatment of the female basketball player bothers me the most. I'm not really jealous because if we handled athletics that way I'd just stop watching.
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Yeah, I question the integrity of those that are jealous of rape cover ups
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Yeah, I question the integrity of those that are jealous of rape cover ups
I don't think they can cover up the rape. What they can do is control the timing of its exposure, which is the point of the post. They'll manage to keep it under wraps until AFTER they make their championship run, then throw the necessary players under the bus. Institutionally, KU has the opportunity to get its championship, which is a long-term and lasting legacy, while sacrificing players, which are a short term legacy. I guess people don't understand how people in the KU AD think, maybe I should be embarrassed because I do.
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KU is going to get this done. They'll sweep that rape of a 16yo runaway girl by members of the men's BB team under the rug until they clinch the championship, and then worry about the fallout later. This is professional grade college athletics cheating, and I for one am totally jealous.
Disgusting. You and them.
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Yeah, I question the integrity of those that are jealous of rape cover ups
I don't think they can cover up the rape. What they can do is control the timing of its exposure, which is the point of the post. They'll manage to keep it under wraps until AFTER they make their championship run, then throw the necessary players under the bus. Institutionally, KU has the opportunity to get its championship, which is a long-term and lasting legacy, while sacrificing players, which are a short term legacy. I guess people don't understand how people in the KU AD think, maybe I should be embarrassed because I do.
Gross
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KU is going to get this done. They'll sweep that rape of a 16yo runaway girl by members of the men's BB team under the rug until they clinch the championship, and then worry about the fallout later. This is professional grade college athletics cheating, and I for one am totally jealous.
Disgusting. You and them.
I don't advocate for the position KU is taking, I'm only describing what's taking place. You can believe, or not believe, doesn't make any difference to me. It is shortsighted to shoot the messenger, however.
Don't lose sight of the fact of how much KU will do to protect their men's BB program, it's what they do. Even at the expense of runaway 16 yo girls who get raped in the men's BB dorm/mansion. Yeah, it is gross to work for a national championship and cover up a disgusting rape until after the men's BB team has made its run, but KU fans have blinders on when it comes to the crap the athletic dept will do to hang another national championship banner. The athletic dept works for KU, and indirectly for the fan base, and neither of those groups care as much about the victim as they do that title. It's as simple as that. You can attribute that value to me if you're that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but doing so is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), in case you haven't detected my dislike of 'lil bro.
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KU is going to get this done. They'll sweep that rape of a 16yo runaway girl by members of the men's BB team under the rug until they clinch the championship, and then worry about the fallout later. This is professional grade college athletics cheating, and I for one am totally jealous.
Totally not advocating
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Look guys, I'm not advocating for rape cover ups, I just wish ksu would do it too. Don't shoot the messenger!
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Some people are so gross. DD should have a chat with women close to him. Ask them how they feel about sexual assault. Odds are that some will have first hand experience. He can then share about he wished KSU had at least gotten a title out of the deal.
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Look guys, I'm not advocating for rape cover ups, I just wish ksu would do it too. Don't shoot the messenger!
If you read the post, you'll note that I think KU will suppress the rape until after the NCAA tournament. That will allow them to make their run without dealing with the problem. It's not a suppression issue, it's timing. In other words, they'll manage to delay the release of the investigation until after they make their title run, not suppress. Would I support our athletic dept. if they managed to avoid justice? No. Would I support our athletic dept if managed to delay release of an investigation until after a championship run. Yes. It's how successful athletic departments get championships.
In case you still don't understand: Delay of release of an investigation is different than suppressing an investigation ("cover up") . KU may do the latter, but there's enough press coverage that would make it difficult to pull off, so I doubt it they'll try.
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should probably just stop now, not a good look
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Grape culture :blindfold:
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Good grief. So gross.
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Grape culture :blindfold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZoiJM1vlfc
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Man, feels so great to demonstrate my superior morality. Everyone, get in here and feel this feeling!
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Would have been interesting to see whether Bill would have taken the same "no off the court issues will affect Jackson's playing time from now on" stance if KU was able to beat TCU without him.
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This is making the rounds on Facebook :sdeek:
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That duck is a runaway?
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Maybe it's the women's basketball player
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Really wanted to make a joke involving a play on that game involving the first word being "duh" but I loathe the second word.
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Now that season is over I expect to hear more on the rape witness case. :impatient:
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I don't expect to ever hear anything about it ever again. Lawrence pd simply doesn't care if the basketball team rapes 16yr olds.
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Esp 16-yr olds "just asking for it". Very back woodsie culture over there. Probs have an active KU klux klan chaper.
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Bragg gone. Wonder whose choice it was?
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I was just driving home a few minutes ago. I caught the tail end of a story on 810, and they referred to someone from the KU basketball team having charges filed today. I didn't get who or what. Anyone hear anything?
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the car kicker had court
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Ah, thanks.
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LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Kansas star freshman basketball player Josh Jackson has pleaded not guilty to a misdemeanor count of criminal property damage alleging he vandalized a woman's car outside a bar.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19144842/josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-pleads-not-guilty-property-damage-count (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19144842/josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-pleads-not-guilty-property-damage-count)
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"How much to make this go away"?
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More classy guys for Bill Self.
https://twitter.com/PeopleofMemphis/status/852586534905753602
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What is going on in that?
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He will be the choirboy of the roster
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What is going on in that?
that guy is staying 1k
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https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/jeff-withey-accused-of-domestic-violence-girlfriend-kennedy-summers/364277
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Man I forgot all about Withey landing a Playmate
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We don't know the whole story yet, maybe she deserved it :Carl:
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I had no idea he was still playing basketball, let alone in the nba.
Lol at filing the report now b/c you think utah players' only way to get to you in la is to draw the clippers in the first round.
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We don't know the whole story yet, maybe she deserved it :Carl:
Yep, kind of like any girl that hangs out with a KU b-ball player. They need to watch themselves and not provoke the young man, lest they get what's coming to them (The Phogistan wing of the Taliban)
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why do women irritate KU basketball players to the point of becoming physical with them? sick stuff. must be a culture issue.
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We don't know the whole story yet, maybe she deserved it :Carl:
Yep, kind of like any girl that hangs out with a KU b-ball player. They need to watch themselves and not provoke the young man, lest they get what's coming to them (The Phogistan wing of the Taliban)
16 year old runaways should make more responsible choices
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We don't know the whole story yet, maybe she deserved it :Carl:
Yep, kind of like any girl that hangs out with a KU b-ball player. They need to watch themselves and not provoke the young man, lest they get what's coming to them (The Phogistan wing of the Taliban)
16 14 year old runaways should make more responsible choices
I thought the 16 year old called the rape in to ku cover up PD.
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We don't know the whole story yet, maybe she deserved it :Carl:
Yep, kind of like any girl that hangs out with a KU b-ball player. They need to watch themselves and not provoke the young man, lest they get what's coming to them (The Phogistan wing of the Taliban)
16 year old runaways should make more responsible choices
This is true, and cover themselves, so as to not give the KU basketball men the wrong idea. (Phogistan wing of the Taliban).
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It's like, what do you expect these guys to do?
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You can't dangle a ribeye steak in front of a lion and expect it to not be devoured. That's just nature and natural instinct type of stuff.
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The phog has a thread right now about how it's ok for a 20 yr old to sex a 13yr old cause you know, she looks older and wants it. This culture extends far past athletics apparently.
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The phog has a thread right now about how it's ok for a 20 yr old to sex a 13yr old cause you know, she looks older and wants it. This culture extends far past athletics apparently.
Are they talking about the "cash me ousside" girl?
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The phog has a thread right now about how it's ok for a 20 yr old to sex a 13yr old cause you know, she looks older and wants it. This culture extends far past athletics apparently.
Are they talking about the "cash me ousside" girl?
No, I think it is related to some story in kansas, but evolved into everyone sharing stories of them and their friends rough ridin' 13yr olds while in college. Oh and also how unfair the legal system is when the parents find out
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:lol:
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it really makes sense in that area. All of our girls in HS at Eudora were boinking college dudes, which made us have to date freshman in HS. It's a vicious cycle in douglas county.
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The phog has a thread right now about how it's ok for a 20 yr old to sex a 13yr old cause you know, she looks older and wants it. This culture extends far past athletics apparently.
Are they talking about the "cash me ousside" girl?
No, I think it is related to some story in kansas, but evolved into everyone sharing stories of them and their friends rough ridin' 13yr olds while in college. Oh and also how unfair the legal system is when the parents find out
:barf:
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That's rough ridin' disgusting.
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SMDH
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The phog has a thread right now about how it's ok for a 20 yr old to sex a 13yr old cause you know, she looks older and wants it. This culture extends far past athletics apparently.
Are they talking about the "cash me ousside" girl?
No, I think it is related to some story in kansas, but evolved into everyone sharing stories of them and their friends rough ridin' 13yr olds while in college. Oh and also how unfair the legal system is when the parents find out
:barf:
I'm not sure if that pisses me off or makes me sick more.
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Well. It's almost May, any arrests in regard to the sex crime at the ol Bball dorm?
5 witnesses as I recall.
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http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/melinda-henneberger/article145880649.html
This is what they are talking about. It's rough ridin' repulsive. She was in 7th grade.
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Well. It's almost May, any arrests in regard to the sex crime at the ol Bball dorm?
5 witnesses as I recall.
Witnesses have transferred out of the jurisdiction or declared for the NBA and left Lawrence. Also, the victim has been sufficiently intimidated at this point. No one will ever be charged and that girl's life is ruined.
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Well. It's almost May, any arrests in regard to the sex crime at the ol Bball dorm?
5 witnesses as I recall.
Witnesses have transferred out of the jurisdiction or declared for the NBA and left Lawrence. Also, the victim has been sufficiently intimidated at this point. No one will ever be charged and that girl's life is ruined.
Looks like Baylor Lite wins again Dug.
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Well. It's almost May, any arrests in regard to the sex crime at the ol Bball dorm?
5 witnesses as I recall.
Witnesses have transferred out of the jurisdiction or declared for the NBA and left Lawrence. Also, the victim has been sufficiently intimidated at this point. No one will ever be charged and that girl's life is ruined.
maybe but once the draft lottery is held the gamesmanship betwixt NBA GMs and agents will heat up - Jackson is good but is he deal with sexual assault of a minor good?
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Art Self is loading up on other school's problem transfers - 5 total. Buckle up ladies of Wac...err....Lawrence. Gonna be a bumpy school year.
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Would anyone be surprised if this 16yr old girl was found in Clinton Lake tomorrow, cause of death: "accidental" drowning
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She has been IRL VI'd back to Missouri
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http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/melinda-henneberger/article145880649.html
This is what they are talking about. It's rough ridin' repulsive. She was in 7th grade.
I want Holton to get hit with a nuke. That piece of suit is a serial rapist, he's going to end up raping the loved one of one of these enablers.
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If he gets beat up soon, it wasn't me.
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I refuse to believe that is real.
Despicable
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If he gets beat up soon, it wasn't me.
He fell down the stairs.
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Should we rename this thread: Bill Self killed 5 sexual assault witnesses?
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https://twitter.com/saramarieshep/status/862419466721918977
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That dorm looks like ass. The Sig Ep house at KSU is nicer.
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https://twitter.com/saramarieshep/status/862419466721918977
My opinion has been it was not a basketball player, but a player let him in the dorm. I also posted when Bill Self said he had no idea what happened that for sure knows a least what player it was, if it was one. And I would give Self credit for sitting out a player if he thought it was him, even if he had to fake an injury.
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I appreciate how the DA is "now" considering charges...
After the season
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Guys, Justice takes time. Particularly in cases with 5, now dead, eyewitnesses.
Craig James, Bill Self.
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She said there is no timeline for the office’s review of the case or possible charges being filed.
As in, we need to figure out if any returning players were involved before we set a timeline.
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She said there is no timeline for the office’s review of the case or possible charges being filed.
As in, we need to figure out if any returning players were involved before we set a timeline.
So if Svi gets into NBA they can proceed...
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That dorm looks like ass. The Sig Ep house at KSU is nicer.
I was thinking the same. Cement and stucco board? Looks like a west lenexa mcmansion.
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Phog is pretty pumped that the girl Josh Jackson attacked transferred out. Warning: Some really sick and disgusting comments in there.
http://www.scout.com/college/kansas/forums/2481-hoops-talk/15608628-she-gone
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BaylorLite fan gonna BaylorLite
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Phog is pretty pumped that the girl Josh Jackson attacked transferred out. Warning: Some really sick and disgusting comments in there.
http://www.scout.com/college/kansas/forums/2481-hoops-talk/15608628-she-gone
can't read. She is going to sue their nuts off though
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Good job, Douglas County. Make him say sorry when the season is done and he's already entered the draft.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article152020052.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article152020052.html)
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I saw it scrolled on the ESPN ticker that, according to the paper not to be named here, the diversion program requires an anger management program (cue Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler jokes), and also must refrain from alcohol for a year.
One year????? That's horrible!!
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adam sandler is the gift that keeps giving
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Buttcheese nailed this one
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Thinking of adam sandler 24/7 is as old as waving the wheat
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I figured the results would minimally affect him.
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Identical punishment as to when one gets busted tossing a 'wich.
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Re: Josh Jackson Diversion
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I saw it scrolled on the ESPN ticker that, according to the paper not to be named here, the diversion program requires an anger management program (cue Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler jokes), and also must refrain from alcohol for a year.
One year????? That's horrible!!
He doesn't even turn 21 for another 9 months. So he has to, ya know, follow the same law everyone under 21 does? THAT'S HORRIBLE!
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Hey, don't get caught doing illegal things, that are, ya know, illegal.
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Hey guys, any updates on the sexual assault at the KU bball dorm with five (now apparently dead) witnesses?
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KU fans idolize Adam Sandler, it's amaze
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KU fans idolize Adam Sandler, it's amaze
He is like Stephen Baldwin/Nuge to them
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Is Stephen the loser who called his 11-year old daughter a piggy?
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No, the tax cheat and bankrupt one
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Well, I've been wondering about this. Is it a surprise?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article190061649.html
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Well, I've been wondering about this. Is it a surprise?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article190061649.html
That had to set Doug Compton back a few bucks.
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Just a 16 yr old smoking and boozing in the team dorm, nothing to see here
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Just a 16 yr old smoking and boozing in the team dorm, nothing to see here
I mean, not to get all phognet here. But it's weird that over the years we hear so much about the handsome coeds that attend KU, yet it seems like the KU b-ball players prefer their female acquaintances to be younger than college age. Doesn't even seem like the JCCC jersey chasers they used to bus in are on the preferred list anymore.
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Lawrabama
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KU, making gang raping a minor cool since 1865
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Just a 16 yr old smoking and boozing in the team dorm, nothing to see here
it’s a small price to pay for losing in the second round every year
BEAK UM!
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Well, I've been wondering about this. Is it a surprise?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article190061649.html
Truly amazing. Managed to sweep that episode under the rug for over a year, and then drop it like nothing ever happened. Would love to see the investigative reports on that, it's hard to have all those offenses (underage possession of alcohol, possession of drugs, rape) not meriting charging.
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Well, I've been wondering about this. Is it a surprise?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article190061649.html
Truly amazing. Managed to sweep that episode under the rug for over a year, and then drop it like nothing ever happened. Would love to see the investigative reports on that, it's hard to have all those offenses (underage possession of alcohol, possession of drugs, rape) not meriting charging.
We all owe those youngsters an apology.
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Well, I've been wondering about this. Is it a surprise?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article190061649.html
Truly amazing. Managed to sweep that episode under the rug for over a year, and then drop it like nothing ever happened. Would love to see the investigative reports on that, it's hard to have all those offenses (underage possession of alcohol, possession of drugs, rape) not meriting charging.
We all owe those youngsters an apology.
I will forever, and I mean FOREVER, tip my cap to Bill Self. He has a machine.
not even pitting here but I bet Dax would agree the bill self ku machine is like the Clinton machine of college sports
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Apparently this conservative news outlet fails at analysis. They believe a reason crime decreased in the past year at KU was due to campus carry. Apparently they do not understand the power of a rape dorm that allows crimes by the basketball team and their hangers-on to magically disappear from the crime blotters.http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/04/university-of-kansas-campus-carry/ (http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/04/university-of-kansas-campus-carry/)
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With the story of Kareem Hunt blowing up yesterday, and lots of KU fans on my social media saying he should never play football again, it reminded of Lagerald Vick kicking a woman in the face a few years ago.
He's now leading the Big 12 in scoring. Did he ever get suspended or anything? Did nothing come of it because there wasn't video?
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With the story of Kareem Hunt blowing up yesterday, and lots of KU fans on my social media saying he should never play football again, it reminded of Lagerald Vick kicking a woman in the face a few years ago.
He's now leading the Big 12 in scoring. Did he ever get suspended or anything? Did nothing come of it because there wasn't video?
Nothing ever comes of this stuff unless there is video.
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https://www.wibw.com/content/news/Report--504337261.html
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Self will pretty much do anything to win.
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So, would that mean vacating all the games he suited up for? Ending their conference champ streak and removing the final four appearance?
Not that I really give a crap, but would be kind of lol.
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So, would that mean vacating all the games he suited up for? Ending their conference champ streak and removing the final four appearance?
Not that I really give a crap, but would be kind of lol.
Would be entertaining
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Desperate times.
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is silvio related to john philip sousa?
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The MCMW and the Cheating at KU is just a finely tuned German V-12, it's truly awe inspiring and amazing.
Congrats to them!
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is silvio related to john philip sousa?
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