Author Topic: Beer Connoisseurs (Read 445559 times)

KCFDcat · « **Reply #4200 on:** August 31, 2015, 11:30:31 AM »

Quote from: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 08:50:30 AM

cans seal better and block out all light

This is true but you get a much higher rate of Dissolved oxygen and Head Space oxygen in cans, since the filling process is not as controlled as bottles.

Most blind tests on can vs bottle shelf life comes out being nearly identical due to those issues. (bottles leach o2 at a higher rate, but have a lower ppb at packaging)

The other issue is, you can purchase a bottling line that will give you a low DO and HSO number for about 50-60k... That same price on a canning line would leave you with a product that would last about a week on the shelf, due to poor packaging techniques. This is why a lot of breweries bottle, the cost upfront is way lower.

Try some of the new cans from mother's next to a bottle. You'll taste the difference, the can is obviously stale.

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KCFDcat · « **Reply #4201 on:** August 31, 2015, 11:32:06 AM »

Quote from: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 05:07:02 PM

Quote from: waks on August 27, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
Quote from: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
cans seal better and block out all light
They're also a lot lighter than glass, making them cheaper to ship.

and stronger for stacking!

Not necessarily true! Breweries that "can condition" their beers can only stack two pallets high for 3-4 weeks as there isn't enough pressure in the cans to support the weight. (Blvd has this issue at the canning facility in Minnesota)

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Catchacold · « **Reply #4202 on:** August 31, 2015, 11:58:54 AM »

aluminum bottles?

KCFDcat · « **Reply #4203 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Catchacold on August 31, 2015, 11:58:54 AM

aluminum bottles?

Aluminum bottles are filled the same way glass bottles are filled. They are similar in shelf life to glass bottles, but are more $$$. Some people think the fact they let no light touch the beer makes it a superior product. Most studies show it doesn't really make a difference.

No one uses them exclusively as the cost is too high.

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KCFDcat · « **Reply #4204 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:19:40 PM »

Quote from: KCFDcat on August 31, 2015, 12:09:52 PM

Quote from: Catchacold on August 31, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
aluminum bottles?

Aluminum bottles are filled the same way glass bottles are filled. They are similar in shelf life to glass bottles, but are more $$$. Some people think the fact they let no light touch the beer makes it a superior product. Most studies show it doesn't really make a difference.

No one uses them exclusively as the cost is too high.

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Also aluminum bottles are easier to keep cold than glass, are lighter, and obviously don't break like glass.

I can only think of a few craft brands that use Al bottles: Blvd and maybe Red Hook?

Mostly M/C and ABI use them for stadiums and other venues that don't allow glass. There are a lot of states that actually don't allow Al bottles to be bought from a retailer. There are some weird reasons for this, one of them being the old pull off can tops... When they were popular some states outlawed them as they were terrible for the environment. Most laws say "any metal beverage container must have a non-detachable cap" thus making metal bottles technically illegal in those states.

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husserl · « **Reply #4205 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:31:30 PM »

I brain is trying to imagine a non-detachable cap and I want it to stop.

KCFDcat · « **Reply #4206 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:45:02 PM »

Quote from: husserl on August 31, 2015, 12:31:30 PM

I brain is trying to imagine a non-detachable cap and I want it to stop.

Modern cans are non-detachable.

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husserl · « **Reply #4207 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:46:07 PM »

pfft

IPA4Me · « **Reply #4208 on:** August 31, 2015, 06:14:14 PM »

Back to the drinking...

This is a fantastic IPA. Upheaval by Widmer Brothers.

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CNS · « **Reply #4209 on:** August 31, 2015, 07:38:45 PM »

Shiner Oct fest is really good.

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AbeFroman · « **Reply #4210 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:22:24 PM »

I went to Denver this weekend and stocked up on Black Shirt Brewing's various red ales/ipas/porters.

IPA4Me · « **Reply #4211 on:** September 02, 2015, 05:31:28 AM »

Visited Evansville IN last night. Enjoyed a couple Carson's Brewery's Pagan Pale Ale. Quite the tasty pairing for my hot wings and grilled veggies.

CNS · « **Reply #4212 on:** September 11, 2015, 08:15:37 PM »

The best farmhouse.

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The Big Train · « **Reply #4213 on:** September 11, 2015, 08:58:50 PM »

i can't even palm two bottles at once

looks great also

CNS · « **Reply #4214 on:** September 12, 2015, 10:45:07 AM »

My new fav sour. Medium funk, not as sweet as petrus. It's really great.

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waks · « **Reply #4215 on:** September 12, 2015, 03:38:10 PM »

Quote from: CNS on September 12, 2015, 10:45:07 AM

My new fav sour. Medium funk, not as sweet as petrus. It's really great.

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didn't much care for it when I had it. Might have to give it another go

star seed 7 · « **Reply #4216 on:** September 18, 2015, 10:41:12 AM »

https://twitter.com/PublicHouseBeer/status/644624524323987460

mocat · « **Reply #4217 on:** September 18, 2015, 11:03:31 AM »

^ photo from last halloween of CNS holding a large pumpkin

tdaver · « **Reply #4218 on:** September 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PM »

New favorite pumpkin beer, but not really a pumpkin beer

waks · « **Reply #4219 on:** September 20, 2015, 10:34:44 PM »

Quote from: tdaver on September 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PM

New favorite pumpkin beer, but not really a pumpkin beer

was impressed with this one. My favorite pumpkin right now is obviously Funky Pumpkin

cDubya · « **Reply #4220 on:** September 20, 2015, 11:52:59 PM »

The Big Train · « **Reply #4221 on:** September 21, 2015, 01:28:43 PM »

i would try that just based on looks alone

KCFDcat · « **Reply #4222 on:** September 21, 2015, 02:26:17 PM »

I am super excited to try this.

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Boom Roasted · « **Reply #4223 on:** September 25, 2015, 11:43:30 PM »

Hoppy

The Big Train · « **Reply #4224 on:** September 25, 2015, 11:49:03 PM »

That's a mighty fat chain you got there

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