Time to talk extension

[yoga-like_abana]

What kinda deal do we think we could sign oscar on for? It's obvious we're going to win the big 12 tourney now.. might as well lock him in now hopefully for cheap

[Joker]

What kinda deal do we think we could sign oscar on for? It's obvious we're going to win the big 12 tourney now.. might as well lock him in now hopefully for cheap

Well, he's 60 so maybe do some sort of discounted 10 year mega deal where he retires as a wildcat.

[Ptolemy]

We would have the unique distinction of having the only coach in the conference being booed by his own fans the first game of the season.

[pissclams]

back up the brinks truck for the golden child, oscar weber

[Brock Landers]

We're not just going to extend him, we're going to make him



4 LYFE!!!!!!!

[Trim]

Should've #LOCKHIMUP'd him weeks ago.

[hatingfrancisco]

Should've #LOCKHIMUP'd him weeks ago.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38757.msg1672130#msg1672130

[yoga-like_abana]

what if some bigger schools come calling?

[Gooch]

Should've #LOCKHIMUP'd him weeks ago.

Yes, he can name his price now.

[kso_FAN]

I'm sure Laird and the General will just add 2 years and just keep the same annual $100K pay bump and the buyout will stay the same.

[Rage Against the McKee]

We should offer him an extension with a pay cut. What other options does he have if he doesn't take it?

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Is there an option to not give him a raise and not give him an extension? Like, can we just let his contract run out? I'm sure it's not possible, but a man can hope right?

[GregKSU1027]

Man these threads what in the eff was everybody thinking

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[kso_FAN]

Man these threads what in the eff was everybody thinking

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If you keep him (and we will) basically treating him as a lame duck coach with only 2 years left on his contract is a good way to hurt your program even more IMO. You either show a little confidence and give him 2 more years or you move on, you have to try to look at this objectively and take all your Weber hatred out of it.

[steve dave]

If we keep him our new AD is a loser

[MakeItRain]

Man these threads what in the eff was everybody thinking

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If you keep him (and we will) basically treating him as a lame duck coach with only 2 years left on his contract is a good way to hurt your program even more IMO. You either show a little confidence and give him 2 more years or you move on, you have to try to look at this objectively and take all your Weber hatred out of it.

I've said this before as well but do we even have any available scholarships for the 2018 class? That would be the only class impacted by oscar being on a two year deal.

[kso_FAN]

We have no scholarship juniors, 3 scholarship sophomores, 5 scholarship freshmen, and 3 guys committed/signed for next year.

[Ptolemy]

If you are going to make the fatal mistake of keeping an incredibly unpopular head coach, you might as well just reduce his pay to nothing. Best move overall for KState.

[MakeItRain]

We have no scholarship juniors, 3 scholarship sophomores, 5 scholarship freshmen, and 3 guys committed/signed for next year.

So there should be no problem with oscar operating on a two year deal. Not extending him is the surest way for him to leave on his own. Not having an AD may keep him safe from being fired now but it certainly doesn't provide any security at all.

[Panjandrum]

We have no scholarship juniors, 3 scholarship sophomores, 5 scholarship freshmen, and 3 guys committed/signed for next year.

So there should be no problem with oscar operating on a two year deal. Not extending him is the surest way for him to leave on his own. Not having an AD may keep him safe from being fired now but it certainly doesn't provide any security at all.

I'm with you.  I think we're in a weird gray area where we can choose not to extend him and not get penalized to heavily.

We have a young roster, and most of them are probably going to come back and try to fight for oscar's job.  At least I think they will because I get the feeling that they like him. 

If we had 5 seniors on the roster next year, and next recruiting class would be really critical to create a new core of players, I'd probably just vote to extend.  But we really don't have to recruit more than 1-3 guys next year, depending on attrition, so the impact is low.

If they tank next year, we can fire oscar for pennies, and the new guy can try to go get a player or two in the late period.  If they do well, you just give him a standard extension, and we get back to the normal buyout.

[kso_FAN]

Good points.

[CHONGS]

I believe he well not get fired next year either. Most outside observers would probably think this team will take a step backwards.  Being a bubble team would be seen as an accomplishment. 

The year after, that's when his job will be on the line.

[kso_FAN]

I believe he well not get fired next year either. Most outside observers would probably think this team will take a step backwards.  Being a bubble team would be seen as an accomplishment. 

The year after, that's when his job will be on the line.

Yeah, it could take a Shaka/Lon level drop next year, depending on the new AD.

oscar gonna oscar.

[MakeItRain]

I believe he well not get fired next year either. Most outside observers would probably think this team will take a step backwards.  Being a bubble team would be seen as an accomplishment. 

The year after, that's when his job will be on the line.

You think outside observers prognosis' have any bearing on how an athletic director will assess the second most important position in the department?

If a team makes the NCAA tournament and 65% of those minutes are from freshmen and sophomores "expecting" a slide the next season is problematic. I'm going to give a person who gets paid to assess things like this credit enough to have this figured out without having to rely on a guy writing a blog in Connecticut.

[ednksu]

You think outside observers prognosis' have any bearing on how an athletic director will assess the second most important position in the department?

Will be interesting to see how the General and whatever is going on in the AD effect this.  Because the Animal and Currie sure as crap would.  They'd probably fine ourselves for firing oscar if people wrote badly about it.