Angel is absolutely...

[kso_FAN]

Sw is dom without the defense, fouls, and rebounding.

Slightly better mid range jumper. Maybe.

[SdK]

Overall, I think Angel is the better player between him and Tay. Of course. When Tay plays, I don't ever feel there are glaring mistakes, which there were plenty for Angel last night. I would have liked to see Tay get more PT.


I know it was probably just my perception, but it seemed like Angel would eff up, get  taken out, then as soon as the next dead ball, he was back in again. I didn't rough ridin' get it, didn't get it at all. This probably took away my ability to look at his game objectively. I just know that if Tay had played more and we lost, I would not have been thinking if Angel had played more we would have won.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Overall, I think Angel is the better player between him and Tay. Of course. When Tay plays, I don't ever feel there are glaring mistakes, which there were plenty for Angel last night. I would have liked to see Tay get more PT.


I know it was probably just my perception, but it seemed like Angel would eff up, get  taken out, then as soon as the next dead ball, he was back in again. I didn't rough ridin' get it, didn't get it at all. This probably took away my ability to look at his game objectively. I just know that if Tay had played more and we lost, I would not have been thinking if Angel had played more we would have won.

Angel was always coming right back into the game because KU was always extending their lead when he went to the bench.

[wabash909]

2008-2009

Buchi Awaji  -  SG
Abdul Herrera  -  C


2009-2010

Jordan Henriquez Roberts – C
Martavious Irving – PG
Wally Judge -  PF
Rodney McGruder – SG
Nick Russell - SG


2010-2011

Freddy Asprilla – C
Juevol Myles – PG
Shane Southwell -  SF
Will Spradling – PG
Nino Williams - SF

[kougar24]

2010-2011

Freddy Asprilla – C
Juevol Myles – PG
Shane Southwell -  SF
Will Spradling – PG
Nino Williams - SF

Still hurts to look at.

[purplenutz]

Overall, I think Angel is the better player between him and Tay. Of course. When Tay plays, I don't ever feel there are glaring mistakes, which there were plenty for Angel last night. I would have liked to see Tay get more PT.


I know it was probably just my perception, but it seemed like Angel would eff up, get  taken out, then as soon as the next dead ball, he was back in again. I didn't rough ridin' get it, didn't get it at all. This probably took away my ability to look at his game objectively. I just know that if Tay had played more and we lost, I would not have been thinking if Angel had played more we would have won.

Angel was always coming right back into the game because KU was always extending their lead when he went to the bench.

Really? I mean, really?  I mean seriously, really? . . .

[sys]

I just know that if Tay had played more and we lost, I would not have been thinking if Angel had played more we would have won.

i remember how satisfied the board was after the ou road loss.  "we lost sure, but i loved the roster mgmt.", we all said.

[Mixed-Nutz]

High major, high impact point gaurds are so hard to recruit everybody wants them, there is not alot of them and they are finky during their recruitment, if you have one your during pretty well. If Naadir Tharpe doesn't pan out, ku won't have any average big 12 point gaurd. Should be happy we have Angle and look forward to his dominance!!!!

[sys]

If Naadir Tharpe doesn't pan out, ku won't have any average big 12 point gaurd.

it kinda proves your point about how hard it is to get elite pgs, but johnson will be a senior next year and was a 5 star pg recruit.

[purplenutz]

I just know that if Tay had played more and we lost, I would not have been thinking if Angel had played more we would have won.

i remember how satisfied the board was after the ou road loss.  "we lost sure, but i loved the roster mgmt.", we all said.

Count me out of that board discussion please..  We lost that game because we were atrocious everywhere.  Roster mgmt had no bearing on that game.

[sys]

Count me out of that board discussion please..  We lost that game because we were atrocious everywhere.  Roster mgmt had no bearing on that game.

purplenutz, i doubt if i will remember your name when you next post, but i should, because you are smarter than most posters.

[purplenutz]

Count me out of that board discussion please..  We lost that game because we were atrocious everywhere.  Roster mgmt had no bearing on that game.

purplenutz, i doubt if i will remember your name when you next post, but i should, because you are smarter than most posters.

Sweet! Finally . . . I've been quoted by sys   And I previously thought that being quoted by Steve Dave was the pinnacle.

[nicname]

3 posessions, stupid stupid decisions, selfish stupid shot w/Jamar wide open.

He cant guard anybody, he turns the ball over like its his job. Just murdered momentum repeatedly tonight, over and over.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=153094263&mid=153094263&sid=889&style=2

[kso_FAN]

I didn't read all of that, but I feel like I've heard all the talking points used about Angel/Frank before.

[pissclams]

merged.  with several of our posters doing their best GPC impression.

[kso_FAN]

"Having Angel and Will (Spradling) at the guards gives us two guys that have the ability to be high assist guys. Martavious (Irving) is more of a slasher, an attack kind of guy, which is why I like to have him coming off the bench. I feel we are at our best with those two guys (Rodriguez and Spradling) at guard right now."

Asked about the recent stretch of games, Martin said, "That circular orange thing finding that piece of twin that hangs at the rim. That is the one thing that is missing." He added, "It's hard to beat anybody if the ball does not go into the basket. It is impossible to beat at top-five team if you do not make shots. You have to make shots."

[ednksu]

I would really enjoy it if Angel would figure out how to get around screens at this level. 

[michigancat]

I would really enjoy it if Angel would figure out how to get around screens at this level. 

fuuuuuuuuck you.

[Trim]

[JKEYS]

3 posessions, stupid stupid decisions, selfish stupid shot w/Jamar wide open.

He cant guard anybody, he turns the ball over like its his job. Just murdered momentum repeatedly tonight, over and over.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=153094263&mid=153094263&sid=889&style=2

May have lost the KU game (in some opinions)...but no way we win today without Angel. 

[steve dave]

I think it's safe to say he's better than Sherron at this point in each of their careers

[ednksu]

I would really enjoy it if Angel would figure out how to get around screens at this level. 

fuuuuuuuuck you.

would it be better if I included an exception for Acy giving him the forearm shiver?

[doom]

3 posessions, stupid stupid decisions, selfish stupid shot w/Jamar wide open.

He cant guard anybody, he turns the ball over like its his job. Just murdered momentum repeatedly tonight, over and over.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=153094263&mid=153094263&sid=889&style=2

May have lost the KU game (in some opinions)...but no way we win today without Angel. 

He tried to throw it away.  That terrible drive at the end, and the travel.   

[sys]

what terrible drive at the end?

[michigancat]

what terrible drive at the end?

He lost it in the lane once when we were stalling and said "Here angel, do something with 10 seconds left on the shot clock".