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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #175 on: October 10, 2018, 10:28:55 PM »
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #176 on: October 10, 2018, 10:49:10 PM »
A great part of this is that the only player worth anything to adidas went to a nike school and is now endorsing puma in the nba.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #177 on: October 10, 2018, 11:05:48 PM »
And his #2 school was ku.

Apparently no amount of money was enough to get him there.
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #178 on: October 11, 2018, 08:56:35 AM »
So, what are the crimes here?
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #179 on: October 11, 2018, 09:20:04 AM »
So, what are the crimes here?
From what I can tell, it's KU giving out law degrees.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #180 on: October 11, 2018, 09:22:28 AM »
:lol: omg he’s never going to recover from that.
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KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #181 on: October 11, 2018, 09:24:23 AM »
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #182 on: October 11, 2018, 09:27:29 AM »
I don't want to keep beating on this thing,  but again it appears that KU just outsourced their recruiting to Adidas.    I suspect Self and company just told Adidas what they needed and Adidas found'em and sent them KU's way.    Pretty novel approach.  Or, maybe KU just outsourced their national recruiting to Adidas while using their own staff for more regional recruiting.   Very corporate, but clearly effective.

I think K-State needs to adopt this model with Nike.






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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #183 on: October 11, 2018, 10:03:11 AM »
Last time I checked, "I had somebody else break all the ncaa recruiting rules for me" is not a defense.
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #184 on: October 11, 2018, 10:05:59 AM »
So, what are the crimes here?

Gassnola has has pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud (see letters combined into words, combined into sentences immediately above itt)
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #186 on: October 11, 2018, 10:27:01 AM »
So, what are the crimes here?

Gassnola has has pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud (see letters combined into words, combined into sentences immediately above itt)
Yeah, I guess I don’t know why this constitutes fraud. Having agents is legal. Paying people for things is legal. Recruiting people to do things is legal and can include money. Who is being defrauded? The NCAA?
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #187 on: October 11, 2018, 10:46:52 AM »
Since it violates the NCAA rules and would cause financial harm to the institution, it's considered bribery. Some experts think it's a stretch.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #188 on: October 11, 2018, 11:01:03 AM »
So, what are the crimes here?

Gassnola has has pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud (see letters combined into words, combined into sentences immediately above itt)
Yeah, I guess I don’t know why this constitutes fraud. Having agents is legal. Paying people for things is legal. Recruiting people to do things is legal and can include money. Who is being defrauded? The NCAA?

I don't know the nuances of the charges, but if there wasn't a real crime, the Federal Court Judge wouldn't have let it go to trial.
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #189 on: October 11, 2018, 11:37:18 AM »
I mean, ffs, a guy who was indicted for paying college basketball players has provided evidence and presumably testimony that he personally met with bill self to discuss which player to "help with", those players got a hundred thousand dollars, and ended up at ku.

There were only a few addidas guys doing this with a few coaches.

there are only a few Adidas schools worth spending any money on but I have to agree if you Bill doesn't have pretty air tight deniability then go ahead and pay for Clay's "Blood bank" betting picks

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #190 on: October 11, 2018, 11:42:02 AM »
I don't want to keep beating on this thing,  but again it appears that KU just outsourced their recruiting to Adidas.    I suspect Self and company just told Adidas what they needed and Adidas found'em and sent them KU's way.    Pretty novel approach.  Or, maybe KU just outsourced their national recruiting to Adidas while using their own staff for more regional recruiting.   Very corporate, but clearly effective.

I think K-State needs to adopt this model with Nike.

And with the new rules and Adidas under siege, he will outsource it to agents.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #191 on: October 11, 2018, 09:28:19 PM »
Live look at Spracne

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #192 on: October 11, 2018, 09:37:07 PM »
I wasn't.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #193 on: October 11, 2018, 09:39:00 PM »
I wasn't.

Hence why I didn't include you in my math.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #194 on: October 11, 2018, 09:40:06 PM »
Maybe KSU giving math degrees should be investigated next.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #195 on: October 15, 2018, 01:10:07 PM »
Just hate to see Bill Self being taken advantage of like this.   These big city Adidas guys have done a number on Bill Self and the simple and kind folks of KU who don't understand the ways and hows of big city life living there in fly over country Lawrence.


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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #196 on: October 15, 2018, 01:12:09 PM »
now we know why seff has gotten so fat.  He hasn't had to go recruit anyone in years because Adidas was gift wrapping guys.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #197 on: October 15, 2018, 01:35:35 PM »
now we know why seff has gotten so fat.  He hasn't had to go recruit anyone in years because Adidas was gift wrapping guys.

But Bill Self can't know those fast talking Adidas guys were paying people.   People just don't think like that in fly-over America cire.   

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #198 on: October 15, 2018, 01:48:58 PM »
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On Aug. 9. 2017, Gassnola texted Self, saying he talked with Fenny Falmagne, the guardian of recruit Silvio De Sousa. Self asked “we good” over text, and Gassnola replied “always,” saying this was light work and the ball was in Falmagne’s court now.

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On Sept. 19, 2017 — three days before KU Athletics announced a 12-year contract extension with Adidas — Gassnola texted Self to tell him thank you for helping to get that extension done. Self replied via text that he was happy with Adidas and wrote “Just got to get a couple real guys.”

Gassnola responded with a text that said, “In my mind, it’s KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad. That’s what’s right for Adidas basketball. And I know I’m right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That’s how it should work in my mind.” Self replied by text, “That’s how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke.” Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well. “I promise you I got this. I have never let you down. Except (Deandre). Lol. We will get it right.”


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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #199 on: October 15, 2018, 02:17:34 PM »
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On Aug. 9. 2017, Gassnola texted Self, saying he talked with Fenny Falmagne, the guardian of recruit Silvio De Sousa. Self asked “we good” over text, and Gassnola replied “always,” saying this was light work and the ball was in Falmagne’s court now.

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On Sept. 19, 2017 — three days before KU Athletics announced a 12-year contract extension with Adidas — Gassnola texted Self to tell him thank you for helping to get that extension done. Self replied via text that he was happy with Adidas and wrote “Just got to get a couple real guys.”

Gassnola responded with a text that said, “In my mind, it’s KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad. That’s what’s right for Adidas basketball. And I know I’m right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That’s how it should work in my mind.” Self replied by text, “That’s how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke.” Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well. “I promise you I got this. I have never let you down. Except (Deandre). Lol. We will get it right.”


these men are not geniuses

Did this come out today?  No way they aren't getting in some kind of trouble. 
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever