Author Topic: "Obamacare" (Read 318599 times)

CNS · « **Reply #2775 on:** January 17, 2017, 12:22:27 PM »

Yeah, I am saying universal, as in single payer, catastrophe covg. Then you or I could go buy own own supplemental as we wish without requirement.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #2776 on:** January 17, 2017, 01:10:32 PM »

What do you consider to be a catastrophe? Like anything that is going to cost more than $10,000, or the more life-threatening stuff?

CNS · « **Reply #2777 on:** January 17, 2017, 01:12:37 PM »

Idk, what is the limits of policies currently sold as catastrophe now? Whatever that is, prob.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #2778 on:** January 17, 2017, 01:13:42 PM »

For a majority of Americans, there is functionally no difference in 10k medical debt and 250k medical debt

CNS · « **Reply #2779 on:** January 17, 2017, 01:25:40 PM »

Well, yeah, but we need to tackle one problem at a time.

CNN had a story a few weeks ago about a national survey that said the majority of americans couldn't deal with an unexpected $500 bill. That is a major problem.

SdK · « **Reply #2780 on:** January 17, 2017, 02:13:23 PM »

Quote from: CNS on January 17, 2017, 01:25:40 PM

Well, yeah, but we need to tackle one problem at a time.

CNN had a story a few weeks ago about a national survey that said the majority of americans couldn't deal with an unexpected $500 bill. That is a major problem.

A personal problem. Living beyond ones means.

CNS · « **Reply #2781 on:** January 17, 2017, 02:46:32 PM »

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on January 17, 2017, 02:13:23 PM

Quote from: CNS on January 17, 2017, 01:25:40 PM
Well, yeah, but we need to tackle one problem at a time.

CNN had a story a few weeks ago about a national survey that said the majority of americans couldn't deal with an unexpected $500 bill. That is a major problem.
A personal problem. Living beyond ones means.

Agree, but it's somewhat reasonable to expand that to a $10k medical bill being a world ender. Especially with credit cards and most hospitals willingly offering payment options. I am not saying that the avg American should have $10k sitting around, but they should have the ability to borrow it and pay it down over a couple years.

Again, we need to solve one problem at a time. Nothing is going to make things perfect immediately. We just need to LHC Bill Snyder this thing. A little better at a time.

SdK · « **Reply #2782 on:** January 19, 2017, 11:55:33 AM »

I agree.

LickNeckey · « **Reply #2783 on:** January 19, 2017, 01:37:59 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on January 17, 2017, 01:13:42 PM

For a majority of Americans, there is functionally no difference in 10k medical debt and 250k medical debt

wut?

SdK · « **Reply #2784 on:** January 19, 2017, 01:48:53 PM »

Quote from: LickNeckey on January 19, 2017, 01:37:59 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on January 17, 2017, 01:13:42 PM
For a majority of Americans, there is functionally no difference in 10k medical debt and 250k medical debt

wut?

It's never getting paid off?

LickNeckey · « **Reply #2785 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:06:16 PM »

i think a majority of americans would/could cover a 10k bill

obviously not going to pay cash but i just don't think the majority of americans are going to default on that bill

i mean we are talking about the price of a low average used car here

CNS · « **Reply #2786 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:07:55 PM »

It would def cause many to alter their way of life. Lose a car, lose a house, etc.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #2787 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:09:25 PM »

Many, but I agree that "majority" might be a little bit extreme.

SdK · « **Reply #2788 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:09:28 PM »

Definitely.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #2789 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:24:43 PM »

I think some of you may be living in a bit of a bubble. Even lower upper class ksuw can barely handle a 400 dollar tax increase, think how mumped he'd be with a 10k er bill.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #2790 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:28:55 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on January 19, 2017, 02:24:43 PM

I think some of you may be living in a bit of a bubble. Even lower upper class ksuw can barely handle a 400 dollar tax increase, think how mumped he'd be with a 10k er bill.

It just depends on how much the hospital is willing to take per month.

Gooch · « **Reply #2791 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:56:46 PM »

10K doesn't go very far. I had one CT scan in the ER during a kidney stone episode that cost 17K.

Gooch · « **Reply #2792 on:** January 19, 2017, 02:57:59 PM »

Quote from: LickNeckey on January 19, 2017, 02:06:16 PM

i think a majority of americans would/could cover a 10k bill

obviously not going to pay cash but i just don't think the majority of americans are going to default on that bill

i mean we are talking about the price of a low average used car here

People default on much much lower bills to hospitals.

SdK · « **Reply #2793 on:** January 19, 2017, 03:08:01 PM »

I've defaulted on much lower bills due to economic constraints and in turn destroyed my credit. I needed emergency service and was too poor to foot bill and once I was able to pay it off the damage was done and years later I'm still suffering for it.

sys · « **Reply #2794 on:** January 19, 2017, 03:37:32 PM »

i didn't pay an ambulance/emergency room bill once based on i didn't ask to be carted off to the hospital so didn't feel responsible for paying it and that i thought the bill was too high for the services rendered. i could have paid it, but chose not to.

afaik there were never any negative impact on my credit.

LickNeckey · « **Reply #2795 on:** February 02, 2017, 01:20:41 PM »

sheesh how long does a guy have to wait for pubs to put there way better system in place?

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #2796 on:** February 02, 2017, 01:43:22 PM »

Quote from: LickNeckey on February 02, 2017, 01:20:41 PM

sheesh how long does a guy have to wait for pubs to put there way better system in place?

Has tom Price even been confirmed yet? I'd wait at least that long, maybe a bit longer. But I agree, waiting can be frustrating.

LickNeckey · « **Reply #2797 on:** February 02, 2017, 02:04:34 PM »

i have apparently misinterpreted the word immediate

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #2798 on:** February 02, 2017, 02:07:47 PM »

LickNecky is anxious to get back the doctor he was promised he could keep.

LickNeckey · « **Reply #2799 on:** February 02, 2017, 02:17:23 PM »

i could really care less who my doctor is

i mean if i was super sick maybe