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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: steve dave on June 01, 2022, 08:43:27 PM

Title: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2022, 08:43:27 PM
Obviously to literally everyone is taxing religious institutions like the businesses they are. We will talk about the big ones like that for sure. But this little dandy just caught my eye and pissed me off:

https://twitter.com/stealx/status/1532166383148072961
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kim carnes on June 01, 2022, 09:05:33 PM
Yeah! eff peoples hobbies!!  Let’s get rid of parks too!
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Pete on June 01, 2022, 09:17:34 PM
Yeah! eff peoples hobbies!!  Let’s get rid of parks too!

parks are used by a bagillion more people than golf courses, aren't they? 
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 01, 2022, 09:22:32 PM
I know this will piss off the billionaires ITT but i'd be 100% okay with rolling back basically every fiscal policy enacted under Reagan.

Taxing businesses and the ultra wealthy their fair share would do a lot. Make stock buy backs illegal again.   
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2022, 09:23:23 PM
Property taxes should be illegal
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2022, 09:26:28 PM
Property taxes should be illegal
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kim carnes on June 01, 2022, 09:56:47 PM
Time to get rid of baseball and football fields folks.  They aren’t paying enough property taxes.  We just solved the housing crisis.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Institutional Control on June 01, 2022, 10:03:04 PM
I’m against publicly funded stadiums.


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Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 02, 2022, 12:20:00 PM
I disagree on the public courses.  They need to be left alone.

In Beige World aka JoCo.   The Meadowbrook CC in PV was redeveloped, very nice, but hardly "affordable housing".   Another developer tried to do the same with Brookridge CC in OP, and got shot down, the very very middle class, slightly upper middle class hoods around there fought it every step of the way.   That development based on the original plans would have offered more affordable (by JoCo standards) MDU style housing. 



Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 02, 2022, 12:31:55 PM
I was today years old when I learned that golf courses are so lightly taxed.  This is actually pretty interesting.  I can see both sides except the moron "we should tax football fields" side because that is for morons
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2022, 12:45:40 PM
I’m against publicly funded stadiums.


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yes it's insanity
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Kat Kid on June 02, 2022, 12:48:35 PM
big box stores get insane property tax cuts too
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2022, 01:13:19 PM
I think it would take federal legislation to get rid of cities subsidizing private businesses.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: DQ12 on June 02, 2022, 01:43:39 PM
here's a thought: less taxes  :Woot:
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Spracne on June 02, 2022, 01:51:56 PM
here's a thought: less taxes  :Woot:

Here's a better thought: fewer taxes (xpost Pet Peeves thread).

But, I agree with @sonofdaxjones regarding municipal courses. In my experience, they actually do get used as parks by local residents.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2022, 02:08:44 PM
"Less in taxes" would be the best use of grammar there.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Kelsey_Grammar on June 02, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
"Less in taxes" would be the best use of grammar there.

No. Just, no.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: tdaver on June 02, 2022, 02:26:02 PM
Eliminating golf courses in the mountain west would also help immensely with water shortage.  Absolutely ridiculous to be irrigating large swaths of grass in the desert during a multi year drought.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2022, 02:31:04 PM
Yeah, I don't think it would come close to solving water shortage issues, but it's a bit disingenuous to have irrigated golf courses while trying to find solutions.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kim carnes on June 02, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
I’m trying to figure out why golf courses pay any property tax at all.  the only thing they cost the govt is building a roadway to them but usually there is a neighborhood surrounding them that you had to build the road for anyways.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kim carnes on June 02, 2022, 02:40:44 PM
Oh wait some guy is just mad he can’t afford a home and is blaming golf courses  :jerk:
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2022, 04:03:16 PM
I’m trying to figure out why golf courses pay any property tax at all.  the only thing they cost the govt is building a roadway to them but usually there is a neighborhood surrounding them that you had to build the road for anyways.

The same reason everyone else pays property tax.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kim carnes on June 02, 2022, 04:31:04 PM
What we should be asking ourselves is how can our govt show a greater appreciation for golf courses since they help inflate property values thereby increasing taxes collected.  And there’s more, they also generate a lot of sales tax.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: catastrophe on June 02, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
I don’t think this has to be some meta discussion. The tweeter said some golf courses take advantage of weird exceptions to keep their property taxes especially low. Closing that loophole seems like a common ground thing.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: kristaevans on January 10, 2023, 11:27:02 AM
Any public organization should be taxed if they give salaries to their employees and receive some income. And as for public places like parks or golf courses, this also should be under taxes. The more you get, the more taxes you pay. Otherwise, you'll get your hands on the entire country's capital, passing through banks and various organizations. It's OK. I don't want to be one of the outraged businessmen. When I need to provide a certificate of income, I just create it in the bank statement generator at https://www.thepaystubs.com/ so as not to wait a million years. And then I send it to the tax service.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: OK_Cat on January 10, 2023, 12:17:25 PM
krista coming out swinging
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Institutional Control on January 10, 2023, 12:19:15 PM
Any public organization should be taxed if they give salaries to their employees and receive some income.

The salaries of their employees are taxed.
Title: Re: Let’s Solve The Fiscal Junk Together
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
Most large businesses actually put a large strain on public resources, and corporate income and property taxes are supposed to help alleviate that.