"Obamacare"

[star seed 7]

lol, nice rant.

[michigancat]

I mean fanning makes six figures, you guys. Think about it.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

lol, nice rant.

Very, very bitter. Sad really. Cheer up seven! Your team is winning! You'll get even more of my money someday soon!

[star seed 7]

lol, nice rant.

Very, very bitter. Sad really. Cheer up seven! Your team is winning! You'll get even more of my money someday soon!

i think rich people should pay more, not middle class.  so you're getting all upset over nothing (you rough ridin' idiot).

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Seven has been awfully virulent lately

Michigancat has been very cranky and whiny for as long as I can remember

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

lol, nice rant.

Very, very bitter. Sad really. Cheer up seven! Your team is winning! You'll get even more of my money someday soon!

i think rich people should pay more, not middle class.  so you're getting all upset over nothing (you rough ridin' idiot).

Oh, well we're in perfect agreement then. eff those "rich" guys! As long as it's not us, amiright? Cause we earned our money but those rich assholes stole it!

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Pro tip: high earners also pay more taxes than poors in a flat tax and regressive income tax system

[kim carnes]

One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

That's not really that much money. Anyone that puts in the necessary time and effort can make that after a few years, but not as many people are willing to do it. This is why people that work hard enough to achieve it don't like giving money to a government that isn't interested in stopping fraud or waste.

Can confirm. When you've got three kids, a mortgage, and you paid a small fortune for the education that enables you to earn 6 figures, that's not really that much money, except to liberals, who consider you Scrooge McDuck. Hard work just doesn't seem to factor into the equation. "You didn't build that" and all that fine socialist garbage. I already pay, by my estimate, about 40% of income to the government in the form of one tax or another, but that's not enough. I can afford to pay more, right? As a prominent libtard once said "from each according to his ability." Was that Obama? Carter?

no one deserves to make 180k/yr, imo.  sorry buddy.

[star seed 7]

my stance on taxes wouldn't change one bit if i were one of the lucky few to be "rich".  one of the problems though, is "rich" is defined way too low as far as tax brackets are concerned.

and "rich" people didn't steal money you rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (well, i guess some probably did), they just owe more to society because they have the money to do so.  i wouldn't expect a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like you to understand that concept though.

healthcare should also be free to anyone in this country that needs it.  just like public education, public police protection, public defenders, and other public services.  "rich" people should help out those that can't afford it, if you don't believe this is good for society, then you're a rough ridin' moron (which you are).

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

and "rich" people didn't steal money you rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (well, i guess some probably did), they just owe more to society because they have the money to do so.  i wouldn't expect a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like you to understand that concept though.

Oh no, I totally get it. They didn't build that. They owe more because they have to ability to pay more. It's just social justice, amiright? Man, you get the best gems when you make the libtards cranky! Take the night off, seven.

healthcare should also be free to anyone in this country that needs it.

It was already "available" to anyone who needs it. In terms of "free," I don't think you understand the meaning of that word.

[gatoveintisiete]

Don't understand a guy getting all this government for free or at a discount being all pissed off at the dudes that pay for it. 

[star seed 7]

Don't understand a guy getting all this government for free or at a discount being all pissed off at the dudes that pay for it.

please copy and paste where i was "pissed off" at anyone.  (the rough ridin' moron, of course, is excluded)

[gatoveintisiete]

Don't understand a guy getting all this government for free or at a discount being all pissed off at the dudes that pay for it.

please copy and paste where i was "pissed off" at anyone.  (the rough ridin' moron, of course, is excluded)
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Why did you think i was talking about you specifically?

[star seed 7]

then there is literally no substance or reason for you post.


durrrrr I LIKE CUPCAKES <---- equivalent to your post.

[gatoveintisiete]

God bless you seven, you're a good man.

[michigancat]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

[star seed 7]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

True, it's like what...  6 times the National average?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

True, it's like what...  6 times the National average?

You only get to keep about half of that.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Guys, more money is more than less money

#itsnotcomplicated

[michigancat]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

True, it's like what...  6 times the National average?

You only get to keep about half of that.

lol if you make that and somehow only keep half you seriously need to fire your accountant.

[star seed 7]

also would like to address k-s-u's bullshit anecdote about his 180k friend being taxed 50 percent in income tax.

directly from the aus gov site:
$180,001 and over       $54,547 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000  (higher for foreign residents)
that's 30.3% for 180k.
+1.5% medicare levy (being raised to 2%)

according to wiki, there are no province or city income taxes.  it looks like 50 percent income tax is literally impossible to reach.

sidenote: the entire tax structure of Australia, at a quick read though, looks very interesting, and pretty fair.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

True, it's like what...  6 times the National average?

You only get to keep about half of that.

lol if you make that and somehow only keep half you seriously need to fire your accountant.

Well, duh.  But its funny coming from a lib. Pay your fair share and all that stuff.

[gatoveintisiete]

Fed income tax
State income tax
Sales tax
Property tax
Self employed paying full payroll taxes

It can get up pretty high

[star seed 7]

Fed income tax
State income tax
Sales tax
Property tax
Self employed paying full payroll taxes

It can get up pretty high

jesus christ man, take a few weeks off and come back after some practice.

[michigancat]

Seriously though, 180k/year for an individual is a lot of money unless you're a rough ridin' idiot. (this is not a commentary on how much someone who earns that much should pay in taxes)

True, it's like what...  6 times the National average?

You only get to keep about half of that.

lol if you make that and somehow only keep half you seriously need to fire your accountant.

Well, duh.  But its funny coming from a lib. Pay your fair share and all that stuff.

I'm honestly not sure how it's possible to have an effective tax rate that high with that income even if you don't take advantage of any deductions.