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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #700 on: October 12, 2013, 02:13:10 AM »
I just picked up that $450 check while no one was looking, don't worry about it, i'm generous like that.
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #701 on: October 12, 2013, 10:15:10 AM »
There is zero percent chance that k-s-u is under 50.

Probably less chance that he has a good income.

Get 'em!, libtard
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« Reply #702 on: October 14, 2013, 11:23:46 AM »
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/

Interesting take. Essentially, it would have been a lot simpler if the gov'ment had allowed people to just browse policies without registering with the site, but they decided to not allow that because they didn't want you to see the actual cost of the policies before any subsidies were factored in.

So now, the only thing currently available without registering is the "Estimator" which provides no details about the type of policy being estimated.
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« Reply #703 on: October 14, 2013, 01:34:10 PM »

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« Reply #704 on: October 14, 2013, 02:02:51 PM »
Oh Ezra, not you too! http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/361132/ezra-klein-thus-far-obamacare-big-failure-andrew-johnson ObamaCare champions are dropping faster than sick people waiting for surgery in a socialized healthcare system.
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« Reply #705 on: October 14, 2013, 02:07:59 PM »
JD becoming more and more F-S-D everyday... sad really.
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« Reply #706 on: October 14, 2013, 02:20:10 PM »
Was talking with an Australian yesterday afternoon. I told him I always wanted to try living there. I asked him about taxes and benefits. He told me income tax ranges from 30-50%, and goods are generally much more expensive because they have a VAT (they call it something different). What do you get for this? His answer went kind of like this:

"Well, the roads are crap. Even along the east coast where most of the population lives, the main 'highway' is one to two lanes and full of potholes. We get a pension after 65, but you can't live off it. The minimum wage is higher and most employees get at least 4 weeks vacation. Healthcare is 'free,' but the wait list for most surgeries takes too long so people end up paying for their surgeries if they can afford them to jump the line. And the cost of petrol and electric is through the roof. On the plus side, the people are real laid-back."

Anyway, I guess I'll chalk up Australia as another fine example of socialized medicine. It's gonna be totally awesome, and cheap, when we try to implement a similar system here for 320 million, approximately half of whom don't even pay income tax.
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« Reply #707 on: October 14, 2013, 02:33:27 PM »
JD becoming more and more F-S-D everyday... sad really.

The joy of being a moderate is you can be pissed about the way things are going no matter who is at fault. Right now, we are wasting huge amounts of tax dollars on a POS giant bureaucracy that is incapable of being properly administered. Its horrendous seven, and you should be upset.

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« Reply #708 on: October 14, 2013, 03:30:07 PM »
Was talking with an Australian yesterday afternoon. I told him I always wanted to try living there. I asked him about taxes and benefits. He told me income tax ranges from 30-50%, and goods are generally much more expensive because they have a VAT (they call it something different). What do you get for this? His answer went kind of like this:

"Well, the roads are crap. Even along the east coast where most of the population lives, the main 'highway' is one to two lanes and full of potholes. We get a pension after 65, but you can't live off it. The minimum wage is higher and most employees get at least 4 weeks vacation. Healthcare is 'free,' but the wait list for most surgeries takes too long so people end up paying for their surgeries if they can afford them to jump the line. And the cost of petrol and electric is through the roof. On the plus side, the people are real laid-back."

Anyway, I guess I'll chalk up Australia as another fine example of socialized medicine. It's gonna be totally awesome, and cheap, when we try to implement a similar system here for 320 million, approximately half of whom don't even pay income tax.

this guy sounds like a liar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_Australia

did not bother researching other claims but they sound dubious as well

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« Reply #709 on: October 14, 2013, 03:39:06 PM »
I had lunch with an Australian the other day, and he said that the biggest difference between Australia and the US is that the corporations here basically run the country.  Also, he said that Australia is much more strict when it comes to pharmaceutical advertising and pharmaceutical companies in general. 

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« Reply #710 on: October 14, 2013, 03:49:24 PM »
The dozen or so Australians I know all seem to like their economic and healthcare situations better than ours in the USA. They really love the cheap drinks in Aggieville though.
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« Reply #711 on: October 14, 2013, 03:59:00 PM »
Was talking with an Australian yesterday afternoon. I told him I always wanted to try living there. I asked him about taxes and benefits. He told me income tax ranges from 30-50%, and goods are generally much more expensive because they have a VAT (they call it something different). What do you get for this? His answer went kind of like this:

"Well, the roads are crap. Even along the east coast where most of the population lives, the main 'highway' is one to two lanes and full of potholes. We get a pension after 65, but you can't live off it. The minimum wage is higher and most employees get at least 4 weeks vacation. Healthcare is 'free,' but the wait list for most surgeries takes too long so people end up paying for their surgeries if they can afford them to jump the line. And the cost of petrol and electric is through the roof. On the plus side, the people are real laid-back."

Anyway, I guess I'll chalk up Australia as another fine example of socialized medicine. It's gonna be totally awesome, and cheap, when we try to implement a similar system here for 320 million, approximately half of whom don't even pay income tax.

this guy sounds like a liar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_Australia

did not bother researching other claims but they sound dubious as well

Sorry, he was talking about a person with my income level, so it would appear that the tax rates he quoted were spot on. Also, $180,000 in Australia is not nearly as much as it would be in the United States. Sounds like Australia would be a great place to live if you're a poor, though.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #712 on: October 14, 2013, 04:20:49 PM »
180000 Australian dollars = 170550 US dollars

where I come from (America) that is nearly as much

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« Reply #713 on: October 14, 2013, 04:25:54 PM »
180000 Australian dollars = 170550 US dollars

where I come from (America) that is nearly as much

Not when you consider cost of living.
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« Reply #714 on: October 14, 2013, 04:32:52 PM »
180000 Australian dollars = 170550 US dollars

where I come from (America) that is nearly as much

Not when you consider cost of living.

sounds like being poor would suck then. either way great anecdote case closed

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« Reply #715 on: October 14, 2013, 06:48:28 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.
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« Reply #716 on: October 14, 2013, 08:52:56 PM »
Your personal financial info is safe with us.

That is completely unacceptable.  This person wouldn't be fit to process checks at a bank, but is conscripted to give financial advice by the federal govt.  Just lousy and reckless controls.
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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #717 on: October 14, 2013, 08:54:46 PM »
I'd like a photo of the loser who hired her.

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« Reply #718 on: October 14, 2013, 09:06:05 PM »
This thing is a disaster

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« Reply #719 on: October 14, 2013, 09:15:37 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

You're very bitter.
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« Reply #720 on: October 14, 2013, 09:19:44 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

That's not really that much money. Anyone that puts in the necessary time and effort can make that after a few years, but not as many people are willing to do it. This is why people that work hard enough to achieve it don't like giving money to a government that isn't interested in stopping fraud or waste.

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« Reply #721 on: October 14, 2013, 09:20:24 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

You're very bitter.

i'm a very happy person actually.
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« Reply #722 on: October 14, 2013, 09:21:30 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

That's not really that much money. Anyone that puts in the necessary time and effort can make that after a few years, but not as many people are willing to do it. This is why people that work hard enough to achieve it don't like giving money to a government that isn't interested in stopping fraud or waste.

 :dunno:  why you getting mad buddy?
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« Reply #723 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:47 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

That's not really that much money. Anyone that puts in the necessary time and effort can make that after a few years, but not as many people are willing to do it. This is why people that work hard enough to achieve it don't like giving money to a government that isn't interested in stopping fraud or waste.

 :dunno:  why you getting mad buddy?

Not mad bro. Mercury retrograde or some crap.

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« Reply #724 on: October 14, 2013, 09:40:21 PM »
One of the best things about America is that rough ridin' idiots can still make 180k, or at least claim to.

That's not really that much money. Anyone that puts in the necessary time and effort can make that after a few years, but not as many people are willing to do it. This is why people that work hard enough to achieve it don't like giving money to a government that isn't interested in stopping fraud or waste.

Can confirm. When you've got three kids, a mortgage, and you paid a small fortune for the education that enables you to earn 6 figures, that's not really that much money, except to liberals, who consider you Scrooge McDuck. Hard work just doesn't seem to factor into the equation. "You didn't build that" and all that fine socialist garbage. I already pay, by my estimate, about 40% of income to the government in the form of one tax or another, but that's not enough. I can afford to pay more, right? As a prominent libtard once said "from each according to his ability." Was that Obama? Carter?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.