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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2200 on: November 25, 2014, 08:46:12 PM »
That's not how it works but I have an "accept all friend requests from my SW KS hometown" so you aren't wrong

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2201 on: November 25, 2014, 08:47:34 PM »
That's not how it works but I have an "accept all friend requests from my SW KS hometown" so you aren't wrong

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2202 on: November 25, 2014, 08:59:51 PM »
Have not seen or read GoT but given your posting history I'll assume it was a good reference

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2203 on: November 25, 2014, 09:05:17 PM »
he should've gone the classic beowulf route, steve dave

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2204 on: November 25, 2014, 10:10:45 PM »
You have at least 34 racist friends, it would seem.

I probally would have liked that and tweeted it.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2205 on: November 25, 2014, 10:11:57 PM »
You have at least 34 racist friends, it would seem.

I probally would have liked that and tweeted it.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2206 on: November 25, 2014, 10:12:33 PM »
someone needs to end Don Lemon's throat, right now, my goodness

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2207 on: November 25, 2014, 11:05:36 PM »
Who is Don Lemon?
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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2208 on: November 25, 2014, 11:10:12 PM »
I'm sure it's been said, but I wish we could see what would happen if this scenario played out with a black cop shooting and unarmed white teen.
Klan rallies would have happened
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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2209 on: November 25, 2014, 11:11:21 PM »

Probable Cause means "more likely than not." It's a low standard, but not that low.


No, it doesn't.  That's a preponderance of the evidence.  The burden of proof in a civil case.  Probable cause means a reasonable belief that the defendant has committed a crime.  It has been explicitly held to be below a preponderance.  "It does not demand any showing that such a belief be correct or more likely true than false." Texas v. Brown, 460 U.S. 730, 742 (1983).

Excellent lawyering.

You're right. Danger of posting on the fly. It still doesn't mean that one shred of evidence rebutted by significantly more evidence establishes probable cause. Has to be reasonable.

Why are you guise talking about probable cause in the context of this grand jury indictment? That's search and seizure stuff.


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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2210 on: November 26, 2014, 12:40:49 AM »
Something I was thinking about, what ever happened to firing warning shots? Pop a few rounds off into the air, the suspect will probably crap his pants and get on the ground. Seems like the police have a "all bullets must be aimed at bodies" policy.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2211 on: November 26, 2014, 01:02:40 AM »
Why are you guise talking about probable cause in the context of this grand jury indictment? That's search and seizure stuff.
hm.


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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2212 on: November 26, 2014, 08:17:39 AM »
Why are you guise talking about probable cause in the context of this grand jury indictment? That's search and seizure stuff.
hm.

Just a little something called the Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be searched.




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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2213 on: November 26, 2014, 08:19:18 AM »
Something I was thinking about, what ever happened to firing warning shots? Pop a few rounds off into the air, the suspect will probably crap his pants and get on the ground. Seems like the police have a "all bullets must be aimed at bodies" policy.

Pretty sure a cop would be fired for firing a "warning shot" into the air.  That bullet could land anywhere.  This isn't Deadwood you hooplehead.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2214 on: November 26, 2014, 08:31:11 AM »
Something I was thinking about, what ever happened to firing warning shots? Pop a few rounds off into the air, the suspect will probably crap his pants and get on the ground. Seems like the police have a "all bullets must be aimed at bodies" policy.
The use of a firearm is only to be used as an interment of deadly force.  That is why its silly to see people talk about warning shots or wounding shots. 
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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2215 on: November 26, 2014, 09:06:36 AM »
But what about shooting the gun out of his hand? That's a thing, right?

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2216 on: November 26, 2014, 09:12:03 AM »
But what about shooting the gun out of his hand? That's a thing, right?

He was unarmed or obviously that's what dead eye darren would have done.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2217 on: November 26, 2014, 09:44:45 AM »

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2218 on: November 26, 2014, 09:51:53 AM »
Trying to find meaning in this is a futile exercise.
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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2219 on: November 26, 2014, 10:08:27 AM »
yeah, 'warning shots into the air' sounds like an awesome idea

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2220 on: November 26, 2014, 10:26:28 AM »
I wonder how this would have gone down if the brown family hired George Zimmerman's lawyer

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2221 on: November 26, 2014, 10:41:04 AM »
Trying to find meaning in this is a futile exercise.

You are looking in the wrong place Socrates.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2223 on: November 26, 2014, 12:02:45 PM »
LOL at the twitter counterargument to #BlackLivesMatter that I'm seeing from white people asserting that black people get a lot of abortions. 

I need to think of some unrelated issues I care about and try to interject them into all this.  I've got an idea of how to work a Seattle Sonics gripe in, but I gotta workshop it in my head while I'm at the gym.

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Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« Reply #2224 on: November 26, 2014, 12:05:47 PM »
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