Author Topic: Scalia  (Read 55861 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 8manpick

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 19134
  • A top quartile binger, poster, and friend
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #200 on: February 14, 2016, 09:17:01 PM »
:adios:

Offline sonofdaxjones

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 53415
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #201 on: February 14, 2016, 09:53:16 PM »
Hell hath no fury...Dems will learn, some decade.

Offline puniraptor

  • Tastemaker
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 21338
  • nostalgic reason
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #202 on: February 14, 2016, 11:50:41 PM »
I have never heard of this or any other person named bork but I am aware of bork as a euphemism for "make sex to". Is this Mr Bork the origin for that term?

Offline star seed 7

  • hyperactive on the :lol:
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 64138
  • good dog
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #203 on: February 14, 2016, 11:53:21 PM »
I have never heard of this or any other person named bork but I am aware of bork as a euphemism for "make sex to". Is this Mr Bork the origin for that term?

Actually yes
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

Offline puniraptor

  • Tastemaker
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 21338
  • nostalgic reason
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #204 on: February 14, 2016, 11:55:19 PM »
wow!

Offline SdK

  • Libertine
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 20951
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #205 on: February 15, 2016, 12:27:26 AM »
I thought it was pork

#TheWesIsTheFuture


Offline puniraptor

  • Tastemaker
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 21338
  • nostalgic reason
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #206 on: February 15, 2016, 12:36:46 AM »
Bork seems like a legit fellow. His 2nd amendment views would have "conservatives" borking him to death if he were around today.

Offline MakeItRain

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 44912
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #207 on: February 15, 2016, 02:21:12 AM »
I have never heard of this or any other person named bork but I am aware of bork as a euphemism for "make sex to". Is this Mr Bork the origin for that term?

If you're under 40, you've never heard of Robert Bork. If you're over 40 you haven't thought of Robert Bork in 30 years. His name, well kinda, was brought up out of context in the thread because FSD saw it mentioned on Twitter.

Offline chuckjames

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 858
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #208 on: February 15, 2016, 07:27:14 AM »
http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/supreme-court-vacancies-in-presidential-election-years/

Again, this sets a dangerous precedent for the Republic. How long until the Senantr just refuses to confirm a justice until it's party has both the White House and Senate?  A presidential democracy runs on governing norms, and those norms are going by the wayside one by one. 

Offline CNS

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 36726
  • I'm Athletes
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2016, 07:29:16 AM »
Our fed govt has made a living of crying wolf.  Shut downs, appts, filibuster, etc.  It's bullshit.

Offline slobber

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 12427
  • Gonna win 'em all!
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #210 on: February 15, 2016, 08:22:29 AM »
What is the average number of days for the president to make an appointment to fill a vacancy?


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)

Offline K-S-U-Wildcats!

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 10040
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #211 on: February 15, 2016, 08:29:36 AM »
There is a lot of hysteria ITT about what the president and the senate should do, and I'm not sure why. It's really pretty simple. It is the president's right and duty under the Constitution to appoint a successor. He will. It is the senate's right to not confirm that successor. They won't. That is completely understandable given the importance of this position and the fact that we'll have an election for a new president and a new senate in less than a year.

Anyone feigning outrage about the senate not confirming Obama's pick is either a complete moron or just doing some political sniping.

Finally, Scalia was not a judicial activist just because you don't agree with his opinions. If you really think that, you don't understand what "judicial activism" means. It means reading something into the text of a law that isn't there, or just making law up, to reach a desired result. Scalia was the anti-activist. He would be the first Justice to say "this is an issue for the legislature - not the Court. The Constitution doesn't cover this."

Just wondering when is like the cutoff date for when a lame duck President should at least get the opportunity to get his nominee confirmed? This is setting dangerous precedent. Will a President be able to nominate someone his entire 2nd term or should we be forced to wait until the next election?

The fact that you used the term "lame duck" should answer your question. There is no actual definition. Like the famous jurisprudence on what constitutes pornography, "you just know it when you see it." And even you know Obama is a lame duck. We're in the thick of the primaries and any hope of substantive legislative action has all but shut down for the election year.

Chances you'd be saying if it was President Romney? 0.0%

If the situation were reversed, GOP pres, lib Justice, Dem senate, I would absolutely expect Reid to block the appointment. And so would you. Would I be happy about it? Of course not.

Would the Dems do it? Absolutely. Do I think it sets a dangerous precedent for the Republic? Yes. At some point we have to become less partisan or else the republic breaks down.

This is pretty funny. Obama supporter with a newfound concern about "the Republic breaking down."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

Offline K-S-U-Wildcats!

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 10040
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #212 on: February 15, 2016, 08:31:34 AM »
Antonin scalia is probably the most activist judge that ever activisted

For me it depends.  If a judge rules against my political viewpoint they are an ignorant, activist piece of human garbage.  But if they rule in favor of my political viewpoint they are standing by their convictions and should be commended.

This is because you don't understand what "judicial activism" means. Read back a few pages.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

Offline star seed 7

  • hyperactive on the :lol:
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 64138
  • good dog
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #213 on: February 15, 2016, 08:33:35 AM »
Antonin scalia is probably the most activist judge that ever activisted

For me it depends.  If a judge rules against my political viewpoint they are an ignorant, activist piece of human garbage.  But if they rule in favor of my political viewpoint they are standing by their convictions and should be commended.

This is because you don't understand what "judicial activism" means. Read back a few pages.

 :blank:
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

Offline K-S-U-Wildcats!

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 10040
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #214 on: February 15, 2016, 08:34:42 AM »
http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/supreme-court-vacancies-in-presidential-election-years/

Again, this sets a dangerous precedent for the Republic. How long until the Senantr just refuses to confirm a justice until it's party has both the White House and Senate?  A presidential democracy runs on governing norms, and those norms are going by the wayside one by one.

There it is again! More deep concern about the Republic and rule of law. From an Obama supporter. :lol:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

Offline chuckjames

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 858
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #215 on: February 15, 2016, 08:53:37 AM »
http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/supreme-court-vacancies-in-presidential-election-years/

Again, this sets a dangerous precedent for the Republic. How long until the Senantr just refuses to confirm a justice until it's party has both the White House and Senate?  A presidential democracy runs on governing norms, and those norms are going by the wayside one by one.

There it is again! More deep concern about the Republic and rule of law. From an Obama supporter. :lol:

I think you could make a reasonable argument that Obama hasn't been near the dictator the GOP makes him out to be, but alas. You and I aren't ever gonna see eye to eye on anything. But hey thanks to Scalia death, public unions got a big win. So something good did come from his death.

Offline renocat

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 5971
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #216 on: February 15, 2016, 08:56:54 AM »
Obama and.Schumer are demanding that the Republican Senate take up an Obama nomination.  In 2007 Seweumer said that the any nomination made by Bush in his last 18 months must not be acted on. Talk about shriveled nut hubris.  Like a little dog whizzing on everything.

Offline chuckjames

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 858
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #217 on: February 15, 2016, 09:00:55 AM »
There is a lot of hysteria ITT about what the president and the senate should do, and I'm not sure why. It's really pretty simple. It is the president's right and duty under the Constitution to appoint a successor. He will. It is the senate's right to not confirm that successor. They won't. That is completely understandable given the importance of this position and the fact that we'll have an election for a new president and a new senate in less than a year.

Anyone feigning outrage about the senate not confirming Obama's pick is either a complete moron or just doing some political sniping.

Finally, Scalia was not a judicial activist just because you don't agree with his opinions. If you really think that, you don't understand what "judicial activism" means. It means reading something into the text of a law that isn't there, or just making law up, to reach a desired result. Scalia was the anti-activist. He would be the first Justice to say "this is an issue for the legislature - not the Court. The Constitution doesn't cover this."

Just wondering when is like the cutoff date for when a lame duck President should at least get the opportunity to get his nominee confirmed? This is setting dangerous precedent. Will a President be able to nominate someone his entire 2nd term or should we be forced to wait until the next election?

The fact that you used the term "lame duck" should answer your question. There is no actual definition. Like the famous jurisprudence on what constitutes pornography, "you just know it when you see it." And even you know Obama is a lame duck. We're in the thick of the primaries and any hope of substantive legislative action has all but shut down for the election year.

Chances you'd be saying if it was President Romney? 0.0%

If the situation were reversed, GOP pres, lib Justice, Dem senate, I would absolutely expect Reid to block the appointment. And so would you. Would I be happy about it? Of course not.

Would the Dems do it? Absolutely. Do I think it sets a dangerous precedent for the Republic? Yes. At some point we have to become less partisan or else the republic breaks down.

This is pretty funny. Obama supporter with a newfound concern about "the Republic breaking down."

I forgot how much Bush 43 cared about the rule of law.

Offline MakeItRain

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 44912
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #218 on: February 15, 2016, 09:16:43 AM »
What is the average number of days for the president to make an appointment to fill a vacancy?


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)

Dunno but it's definitely less than 340 days, way less. The longest confirmation ever took 117 days and that guy took so long because we had to hear about his long dong silver.

Offline Panjandrum

  • 5 o'clock Shadow Enthusiast
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 11221
  • Amateur magician and certified locksmith.
    • View Profile
    • Bring on the Cats [An SB Nation Blog]
Re: Scalia
« Reply #219 on: February 15, 2016, 09:25:37 AM »
If I'm a conservative, I'm looking at worst case scenario.

Would I rather have a SCJ nominated by Obama, or by Bernie Sanders?

Offline sonofdaxjones

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 53415
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #220 on: February 15, 2016, 09:27:15 AM »
Obama should nominate someone and if it's a normal person who isn't trying to "fundamentally change America" they should be approved. 

But with Obama, that's doubtful.

Offline MakeItRain

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 44912
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #221 on: February 15, 2016, 09:29:21 AM »
If I'm a conservative, I'm looking at worst case scenario.

Would I rather have a SCJ nominated by Obama, or by Bernie Sanders?

I've been critical of Obama but I don't think there would be a significant difference in the ideology of the justice they would nominate.

Offline MakeItRain

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 44912
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #222 on: February 15, 2016, 09:32:08 AM »
Obama should nominate someone and if it's a normal person who isn't trying to "fundamentally change America" they should be approved. 

But with Obama, that's doubtful.

Yeah his last two appointees really threw the country off course :ROFL:

Scalia actually asked for Kagan.

Offline sonofdaxjones

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 53415
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #223 on: February 15, 2016, 09:32:59 AM »
The last two appointees are irrelevant to this discussion of the future

Offline chuckjames

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 858
    • View Profile
Re: Scalia
« Reply #224 on: February 15, 2016, 09:35:11 AM »
Obama should nominate someone and if it's a normal person who isn't trying to "fundamentally change America" they should be approved. 

But with Obama, that's doubtful.

What does "fundamentally change America" even mean? Plenty of Presidents before Obama have "fundamentally changed America", it's one of the biggest perks of being President.