2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread

[husserl]

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a woman who will be voting for Obama.  I do believe that the bumbling answer about the binder full of women and references to women being home to make dinner was off-putting to most.  He doesn't support fair pay.  Awesome.

On top of being off-putting, the anecdote was a lie (shocker). 

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/the-binder-story-was-another-lie.html

[areksuwildcat]

lol at anyone suprised about politicians lying and stuff.

[EMAWmeister]

Romney said we need to bring down cost of college. Did he say how?

His whole campaign is saying things people want to hear and not providing the how.

It absolutely goes both ways.  I mean, Christ.  Obama won an entire election in 08 on two words alone because that's all he had to do.

I DVR'd and just started it.  Does Obama ever clarify any "THAT'S NOT TRUE"s or is it one of those things that is so deeply ingrained into his mind as fact that he doesn't feel that it's necessary to elaborate?

It's exhausting trying to correct all of romney's (and the rights) lies.

Well if Romney's statistics were so erroneous then surely it would be easy for Obama to correct him, no?

[felix rex]

lol at anyone suprised about politicians lying and stuff.

Yeah. People will selectively notice the lie told by their rival and rationalize the one told by their favorite.

Mitt's binder thing is funny, but Obama's "Rose Garden" thing is worse, IMO. But I'm biased toward my own interests and the people I work with, so I suppose I fall into the same traps.

[kstatefreak42]

another awful debate.

[gokatgo]

After watching the Rose Garden speech the day after the Benghazi murders, Candy Crowley was wrong about Obama saying it was a terrorist attack. He didn't.

He said, " No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

I knew that some people would play semantics.

He was speaking in general terms of earlier attacks at that point, but earlier in the speech he was more specific.

"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths.  We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.  But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence.  None.  The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."

I also found it interesting that Crowley had the transcript on hand and that Obama asked her to confirm what he said.

She didn't have a transcript you dope. She did however do her homework, unlike Mitt.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

After watching the Rose Garden speech the day after the Benghazi murders, Candy Crowley was wrong about Obama saying it was a terrorist attack. He didn't.

He said, " No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

I knew that some people would play semantics.

He was speaking in general terms of earlier attacks at that point, but earlier in the speech he was more specific.

"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths.  We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.  But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence.  None.  The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."

I also found it interesting that Crowley had the transcript on hand and that Obama asked her to confirm what he said.

She didn't have a transcript you dope. She did however do her homework, unlike Mitt.

But she was wrong.   

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

ECONOMIC INSIDERS: Is the budget deficit a meaningful economic measure? It's obviously important but is there a direct relationship between the economic health of our country when running surpluses vs. deficits?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

ECONOMIC INSIDERS: Is the budget deficit a meaningful economic measure? It's obviously important but is there a direct relationship between the economic health of our country when running surpluses vs. deficits?

It's only a problem for future generations. Party now!

[Brock Landers]

What dumbass decided to have the final debate on at the same time as Monday Night Football??!?     

[ksucrcoop]

 Mods, can we get one of those "undecided voters" trend lines on the site during the games?

Would live to see how +++ everyone is after the Judge makes a ruling.

[06wildcat]

ECONOMIC INSIDERS: Is the budget deficit a meaningful economic measure? It's obviously important but is there a direct relationship between the economic health of our country when running surpluses vs. deficits?

1,000 word post boils down to: It depends.

[wetwillie]

Romney won this debate easily, sad really.

[SdK]

Did I hear that correctly? Did the moderator refer to Osama by saying Obama?

[SdK]

Also, I guess whoever wins:

[star seed 7]

there was a debate tonight?

this is honestly the first i'm even hearing of it.   

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

there was a debate tonight?

this is honestly the first i'm even hearing of it.   

First I've heard of it.
 

[steve dave]

Did not watch again

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Boring and uninformative debate. Nobody really cares about foreign policy right now. 

[Brock Landers]

What dumbass decided to have the final debate on at the same time as Monday Night Football??!?     

About 20 minutes into this debate I realized it was smart to schedule it at the same time as Monday Night Football.  It was awful....Obama was better but it's probably not going to help him at all since nobody watched or cared.

Although I got a chuckle out of "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back".    I halfway expected Mitt to say "Well the Jerk Store called and they're running out of you!"

[Rage Against the McKee]

Boring and uninformative debate. Nobody really cares about foreign policy right now. 

It's only the most important duty of the president. I fell asleep during the debate, so I don't know who won overall. I did like Obama's response to Romney claiming that our navy has less ships than we did in 1917 so we are less safe.

[Dugout DickStone]

romney is pretty darn set on raising our military spending a bunch.

[Rage Against the McKee]

romney is pretty darn set on raising our military spending a bunch.

Yeah, it's like he doesn't think the budget deficit is a big deal or something.

[0.42]

horse and bayonet stocks are anticipating a major bump on nov 6