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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2012, 11:46:33 PM »
It's depressing to think how badly Gary Johnson would have clownsuited both these powertards.  :frown:

Obama can't debate, and Romney just debates with lies and doubletalk.

blood bath.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #76 on: October 04, 2012, 12:27:27 AM »
It's depressing to think how badly Gary Johnson would have clownsuited both these powertards.  :frown:

Obama can't debate, and Romney just debates with lies and doubletalk.

blood bath.

It wouldn't even last 5 minutes
Johnson: Hey Obama, how come you campaigned against Iraq/Afghan, Patriot Act, Guantanimo, War on drugs, yet signed the NDAA into law, had drones bomb the eff out of the same(AND MORE!) middle east countries, and still let feds raid medical marijuana clinics?
Johnson: Hey Romney, (INSERT ANY TALKING POINT THAT HAS EVER COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH)
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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #77 on: October 04, 2012, 07:29:27 AM »
KU Basketball is the Republican party.  KSU is the Democratic party.

KU does "whatever it takes" to win. KSU tries, haplessly, to do things the "right way."


Do-gooders loose.

While I don't want to speak for them, I would imagine the residents of Afghanistan and Pakistan who wake up dead wouldn't call Obama a do- gooder

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #78 on: October 04, 2012, 08:43:48 AM »
It was a very good debate for Mitt. If you really think about the things he said related to giving a revenue-neutral tax cut at an unspecified amount, increasing funding for the military, and making no cuts to entitlements, none of it makes any sense at all, though. I thought it was nice that Obama actually used some numbers that make at least a little bit of sense for people who are capable of working basic math.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #79 on: October 04, 2012, 08:51:37 AM »
KU Basketball is the Republican party.  KSU is the Democratic party.

KU does "whatever it takes" to win. KSU tries, haplessly, to do things the "right way."


Do-gooders loose.

You sound just like David Plouffe last night. It's apparent Mitt was the winner when the left resorts to crap like this justifying Obama's poor showing.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2012, 09:10:44 AM »
KU Basketball is the Republican party.  KSU is the Democratic party.

KU does "whatever it takes" to win. KSU tries, haplessly, to do things the "right way."


Do-gooders loose.

You sound just like David Plouffe last night. It's apparent Mitt was the winner when the left resorts to crap like this justifying Obama's poor showing.

Yeah, this is a pretty bad time for big Obama fans.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2012, 09:16:32 AM »
I thought Romney came off sounding like a moderate.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2012, 09:20:28 AM »
I thought Romney came off sounding like a moderate.

yeah, he did do a pretty good job.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2012, 09:43:50 AM »
I thought Romney came off sounding like a moderate.

A moderate that has on idea how to balance the budget with his idea of a health plan, military spending, etc.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2012, 09:44:14 AM »
I'm excited about the next debate, I would imagine we'll get more firepower from the Obama side on the next one.  It seems like the Obama camp expected Mitt to come out and shoot himself in the foot after the abortion of a campaign he has been running recently.  When Mitt came out firing on target, Barry O seemed surprised and a bit unprepared. 

A fact check on the debate would probably be interesting, but that's neither here nor there, since no voter really gives a crap.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2012, 10:17:04 AM »
Romney's stumping on military spending is WTF

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2012, 10:33:08 AM »
so you're telling me that if you already wanted to vote for Obama, that he did a great job and Mitt sucked....and if you wanted to vote for Mitt, then he did a great job and Obama sucked.

 :sdeek:

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2012, 10:42:49 AM »
so you're telling me that if you already wanted to vote for Obama, that he did a great job and Mitt sucked....and if you wanted to vote for Mitt, then he did a great job and Obama sucked.

 :sdeek:

There isn't much debate (lol) that Romney won this round.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2012, 10:46:53 AM »
so you're telling me that if you already wanted to vote for Obama, that he did a great job and Mitt sucked....and if you wanted to vote for Mitt, then he did a great job and Obama sucked.

 :sdeek:

There isn't much debate (lol) that Romney won this round.

Yeah. Obama was surprisingly bad, and Mitt was very good.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2012, 10:49:57 AM »
i thought Obama won easily.   :dunno:

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2012, 10:51:34 AM »
well i'm not going to vote but if i did, i'd vote for obama. also, i though mitt prob won last night.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
One of the things that is stupid about debates is that, for MOST people, they will never admit that the guy they hate won the debate because they think that equates to saying, "I am now voting for the other guy."

I am going to do my best to refrain from commenting on politics on this board. The main reason is that I actually think most of you have put more than an ounce of thought/time/energy into your current beliefs. With that in mind, and respecting that most of you are all intelligent people, I highly doubt you will be swayed by what someone (least of all some idiot that calls himself 'dobber') says on a message board.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2012, 11:20:16 AM »
One of the things that is stupid about debates is that, for MOST people, they will never admit that the guy they hate won the debate because they think that equates to saying, "I am now voting for the other guy."

I am going to do my best to refrain from commenting on politics on this board. The main reason is that I actually think most of you have put more than an ounce of thought/time/energy into your current beliefs. With that in mind, and respecting that most of you are all intelligent people, I highly doubt you will be swayed by what someone (least of all some idiot that calls himself 'dobber') says on a message board.

Now I'm interested.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2012, 11:28:17 AM »
i thought Obama won easily.   :dunno:

how so?

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2012, 11:29:09 AM »

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2012, 11:29:25 AM »
i thought Obama won easily.   :dunno:

how so?

because i agree with what he said?   :dunno:

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2012, 11:47:33 AM »
i thought Obama won easily.   :dunno:

how so?

because i agree with what he said?   :dunno:

That isn't how you score a debate.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2012, 11:49:29 AM »

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2012, 11:50:28 AM »
    Obama accused Romney of proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. Not true. Romney proposes to offset his rate cuts and promises he won’t add to the deficit.
    Romney again promised to “not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans” and also to “lower taxes on middle-income families,” but didn’t say how he could possibly accomplish that without also increasing the deficit.
    Obama oversold his health care law, claiming that health care premiums have “gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.” That’s true of health care spending, but not premiums. And the health care law had little to do with the slowdown in overall spending.
    Romney claimed a new board established by the Affordable Care Act is “going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have.” Not true. The board only recommends cost-saving measures for Medicare, and is legally forbidden to ration care or reduce benefits.
    Obama said 5 million private-sector jobs had been created in the past 30 months. Perhaps so, but that counts jobs that the Bureau of Labor Statistics won’t add to the official monthly tallies until next year. For now, the official tally is a bit over 4.6 million.
    Romney accused Obama of doubling the federal deficit. Not true. The annual deficit was already running at $1.2 trillion when Obama took office.
    Obama again said he’d raise taxes on upper-income persons only to the “rates that we had when Bill Clinton was president.” Actually, many high-income persons would pay more than they did then, because of new taxes in Obama’s health care law.
    Romney claimed that middle-income Americans have “seen their income come down by $4,300.” That’s too high. Census figures show the decline in median household income during Obama’s first three years was $2,492, even after adjusting for inflation.
    Obama again touted his “$4 trillion” deficit reduction plan, which includes $1 trillion from winding down wars that are coming to an end in any event.



Both guys have some good ammunition.

If obama hammers on Mitt's debt reduction plan he's toast.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Debate Master Thread
« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2012, 11:53:39 AM »
i thought Obama won easily.   :dunno:

how so?

because i agree with what he said?   :dunno:

That isn't how you score a debate.

do tell, john "teach me how to" dougie.

Style and refutation count. Obama had very little of both. Just seemed to read off liberal blog points.