Author Topic: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread (Read 189109 times)

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #975 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:39:12 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM

I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.

It's unenjoyable watching a bad basketball team be out of shape and generally much wimpier looking than the other team. I don't think being in better shape or stronger would make us a ton better at basketball, but it'd be one less thing to feel bad about.

Katpappy · « **Reply #976 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM

I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.

We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #977 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:42:43 PM »

Can confirm that Price is a bit of a nut job. He has the WWE wrestler type of personality.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #978 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

Lots of our fans blamed '04 and '05 on Rod Cole's antiquated S&C program.

catzacker · « **Reply #979 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:53:59 PM »

Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference. Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06. I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking? It was just Dawson leaving? Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected. Direct it entirely towards oscar. oscar is the reason.

Katpappy · « **Reply #980 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:58:50 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:53:59 PM

Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference. Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06. I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking? It was just Dawson leaving? Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected. Direct it entirely towards oscar. oscar is the reason.

Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence.

Cire · « **Reply #981 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:02:34 PM »

The way I understand it, the coaches let the S&C guy know what they want guys to be like and then S&C designs systems for them.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #982 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:03:43 PM »

We used to do a lot more photo ops/instagram propaganda with bball players doing insane workouts. We don't do those any more. This is the only metric through which I evaluate our S&C. I've thought the football S&C has sucked since we stopped oiling up dudes barechested for the Powercat Lift records poster.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #983 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:04:27 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 01:13:55 PM

Hopeful guess: We're replacing Price as S&C coach

Realistic guess: We're replacing Alvin Brooks

I think we should hope for both. Brooks had the TCU scouts this year, assuming tech also. I know that is a big jump in logic, but in the last two years he has only landed xWhomper for Texas. That is what he was brought in for. Having a bad offseason has a lot to do with the S & C conditioning coach. I don't think their is a single element of his job he has done well.

michigancat · « **Reply #984 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:08:41 PM »

Brooks is pretty much the only reason we have Foster, right?

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #985 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:11:15 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 02:08:41 PM

Brooks is pretty much the only reason we have Foster, right?

Lead recruiter, but I don't think he did anything special to land him.

pvegs · « **Reply #986 on:** March 13, 2015, 02:24:49 PM »

Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.

catzacker · « **Reply #987 on:** March 13, 2015, 03:55:13 PM »

Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:58:50 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference. Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06. I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking? It was just Dawson leaving? Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected. Direct it entirely towards oscar. oscar is the reason.
Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence.

And Cole was here when we went from a Conference Championship to last in the worst big 12 north division, like, twice. And Dawson was at KU when they had crap seasons.

It's oscar. Not Price. If we want to solve the problem about why the players aren't tough or whatever, then fire oscar. Problem solved.

jtksu · « **Reply #988 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:02:26 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on March 13, 2015, 02:24:49 PM

Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.

QFT. Firing one of those types of guys is such a pathetic effort.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #989 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:02:55 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 03:55:13 PM

Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Katdaddy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno. Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor. IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too. And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy. He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl. It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference. Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06. I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking? It was just Dawson leaving? Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected. Direct it entirely towards oscar. oscar is the reason.
Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence.

And Cole was here when we went from a Conference Championship to last in the worst big 12 north division, like, twice. And Dawson was at KU when they had crap seasons.

It's oscar. Not Price. If we want to solve the problem about why the players aren't tough or whatever, then fire oscar. Problem solved.

It is fair to stay that not all S&C coaches are equal quality. oscar is not getting fired, if he believes that the S&C coach has been sub-par he should replace him. It isn't like there is just one problem.

catzacker · « **Reply #990 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:06:03 PM »

there actually is just one problem. You idiots that mention the S&C guy or an assistant…I mean, that narrative ….that brucexcuses narrative is how it starts. Fire the assistants? And bring in who? Someone who’ll bring in a freshman who’ll make 2nd team All Big 12? Well, we had that. Jesus. It’s oscar. Don’t make brucexcuses for him. He makes enough already.

PIPE · « **Reply #991 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:14:33 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on March 13, 2015, 02:24:49 PM

Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.

No joke.......the whole freakin coaching staff should be feeling their a**'s on fire from the scalding flames from the HOT SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!

kso_FAN · « **Reply #992 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:17:40 PM »

The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #993 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:18:35 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 04:06:03 PM

there actually is just one problem. You idiots that mention the S&C guy or an assistant…I mean, that narrative ….that brucexcuses narrative is how it starts. Fire the assistants? And bring in who? Someone who’ll bring in a freshman who’ll make 2nd team All Big 12? Well, we had that. Jesus. It’s oscar. Don’t make brucexcuses for him. He makes enough already.

Making a coaching change would be the farthest thing away from an excuse.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #994 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:21:02 PM »

Also, if a coach is just leaving, who cares. It happens all the time in coaching.

I think people would only really care one way or another if oscar is firing someone, which really doesn't make sense at this point.

CNS · « **Reply #995 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:23:19 PM »

We need to hire a steroid sales consultant as our S&C

pvegs · « **Reply #996 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:33:23 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 13, 2015, 04:17:40 PM

The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.

Everyone is saying this. He either succeeds or fails next year and everything else is part of the oscar Excuse Train.

CNS · « **Reply #997 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:38:34 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on March 13, 2015, 04:33:23 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 13, 2015, 04:17:40 PM
The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.

Everyone is saying this. He either succeeds or fails next year and everything else is part of the oscar Excuse Train.

He can change all assists out and no one will take another year of crap because of it.

michigancat · « **Reply #998 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:47:17 PM »

Who has Lowery recruited? If any assistant should be fired, it's him.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #999 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:54:39 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 04:47:17 PM

Who has Lowery recruited? If any assistant should be fired, it's him.

Malek, DJamer, Hurt and Wade.