Post by: renocat on November 29, 2014, 11:46:17 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 29, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 29, 2014, 12:42:32 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on November 29, 2014, 01:30:47 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 01:33:48 PM
Go Band!
Post by: OK_Cat on November 29, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on November 29, 2014, 03:12:01 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 29, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
Post by: renocat on November 29, 2014, 04:30:06 PM
Who are the other two bands? What makes ours good?Ohio State is one, and I think Michigan is the other. These bands have big time budgets, and mostly comprised of music majors. Most of our members are volunteers and pay to be in the band.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2014, 07:02:02 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 29, 2014, 07:05:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 29, 2014, 07:05:36 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:20:03 PM
I hope they win and as a reward get moved to the nez where everyone can hear them and the visiting bands don't overpower the stadium. Dr. Tracz is a selfish dumbass.
Maybe with the NEZ being redone it will happen? I dunno. The thing about it is Tracz convinced himself it was an advantage when the band sat right behind the visitors bench, but since they moved them to the 20, that is no longer an argument he should make. Moving to the NEZ would be a great move for in stadium atmosphere
Post by: bones129 on November 29, 2014, 07:23:26 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 29, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:29:22 PM
Fire Tracz.
He's got some quirks and is kind of a jerk IRL sometimes but the band has steadily improved during his time here.
Post by: chum1 on November 29, 2014, 07:36:25 PM
The band is a more visible, important part of KSU athletics than all sports besides Football, MBB, WBB, Baseball, Volleyball and it might be tied with v-ball.
Well, now that you put it that way, the band does indeed sound very important.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:40:57 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 29, 2014, 07:44:06 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:44:59 PM
But what about Pitbull in the NEZ?
If he's willing to play cymbals or something then I'm fine with it. He can rap/sing/whatever with the band and I'm fine with that too.
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:51:08 PM
so, like, how much are we paying this so called dr.?
probably whatever an average tenured professor makes at KSU plus some extra from the AD
Post by: OK_Cat on November 29, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 29, 2014, 07:58:38 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on November 29, 2014, 08:01:18 PM
Pitbull on top of the press box in the snow!
Dale!
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
NOT A LITTLE, BUT A LOT.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 08:04:27 PM
Post by: bones129 on November 29, 2014, 08:19:39 PM
this thread could get hot.
NOT A LITTLE, BUT A LOT.
Well done, sir. Very well done.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 29, 2014, 08:46:13 PM
Meh. I've made my points. I understand some people prefer the jock jams route, and that's fine, but I do think the band adds to a college atmosphere.
I'm not a big band guy, but bands are good for college football and a nice part of the atmosphere.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 29, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
5 hearts in the band too??? :love: :love: :love:Who are the other two bands? What makes ours good?Ohio State is one, and I think Michigan is the other. These bands have big time budgets, and mostly comprised of music majors. Most of our members are volunteers and pay to be in the band.
Post by: meow meow on November 29, 2014, 09:52:24 PM
Meh. I've made my points. I understand some people prefer the jock jams route, and that's fine, but I do think the band adds to a college atmosphere.
I'm not a big band guy, but bands are good for college football and a nice part of the atmosphere.
No kidding, why would anyone not want a band. So dumb
Post by: chum1 on November 29, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 29, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
Meh. I've made my points. I understand some people prefer the jock jams route, and that's fine, but I do think the band adds to a college atmosphere.The band was very entertaining this afternoon. :th_twocents:
Post by: EMAWesome on November 30, 2014, 08:32:21 AM
Give me one good reason to have a band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVWtgZLSE8U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVWtgZLSE8U)
:shakesfist:
Post by: wabash909 on November 30, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2014, 08:57:30 AM
Post by: "storm"nut on November 30, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 30, 2014, 01:22:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
All I'm getting from this thread is a bunch of butt hurt from people that wish they could blow a horn and really can say, this one time at band camp I stuck a flute up a girls pusy"!
:nono: that sounds really unappealing to all involved
Stormnut why do band people, namely Dr. Tracz, think it is more important for the band to have good seats than to be heard and enjoyed by all fans at the game? Isn't it embarrassing to have the visiting bands heard more clearly than our band?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 30, 2014, 10:27:05 PM
All I'm getting from this thread is a bunch of butt hurt from people that wish they could blow a horn and really can say, this one time at band camp I stuck a flute up a girls pusy"!
:nono: that sounds really unappealing to all involved
Stormnut why do band people, namely Dr. Tracz, think it is more important for the band to have good seats than to be heard and enjoyed by all fans at the game? Isn't it embarrassing to have the visiting bands heard more clearly than our band?
FWIW with your seats I can't envision a scenario where you'd hear the KSU band louder than a visiting band
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 30, 2014, 10:34:12 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 30, 2014, 10:35:44 PM
Post by: Winters on November 30, 2014, 10:38:01 PM
...
but I do appreciate the band. they're pretty damn good! #gocats
Post by: "storm"nut on November 30, 2014, 10:51:37 PM
All I'm getting from this thread is a bunch of butt hurt from people that wish they could blow a horn and really can say, this one time at band camp I stuck a flute up a girls pusy"!
:nono: that sounds really unappealing to all involved
Stormnut why do band people, namely Dr. Tracz, think it is more important for the band to have good seats than to be heard and enjoyed by all fans at the game? Isn't it embarrassing to have the visiting bands heard more clearly than our band?
Because they don't give a shut about what people think. That's why
Post by: scottwildcat on November 30, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
Post by: bones129 on November 30, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
Dr. Tracz or whatever his name is, thinks he is a much bigger deal than he is. The band thinks they are a much bigger deal than they are.
I have also heard this. Don't know if it's true.
Post by: chum1 on November 30, 2014, 11:48:10 PM
And LOFL at a rough ridin' BAND DIRECTOR who acts like a dick. Good god. Get some perspective, dude.
Post by: oneeyedwillie on December 01, 2014, 12:02:48 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2014, 01:23:52 AM
All I'm getting from this thread is a bunch of butt hurt from people that wish they could blow a horn and really can say, this one time at band camp I stuck a flute up a girls pusy"!
:nono: that sounds really unappealing to all involved
Stormnut why do band people, namely Dr. Tracz, think it is more important for the band to have good seats than to be heard and enjoyed by all fans at the game? Isn't it embarrassing to have the visiting bands heard more clearly than our band?
FWIW with your seats I can't envision a scenario where you'd hear the KSU band louder than a visiting band
No crap?
I've had season tickets every year since 1996 including when I lived in Boston, this is the first season I have been in the SE corner. Do they still do that thing where sometimes they turn around so the student section can hear them better?
All I'm getting from this thread is a bunch of butt hurt from people that wish they could blow a horn and really can say, this one time at band camp I stuck a flute up a girls pusy"!
:nono: that sounds really unappealing to all involved
Stormnut why do band people, namely Dr. Tracz, think it is more important for the band to have good seats than to be heard and enjoyed by all fans at the game? Isn't it embarrassing to have the visiting bands heard more clearly than our band?
Because they don't give a shut about what people think. That's why
I'm confused here because you got butthurt by people making fun of the band, I try to engage a conversation and this is how you respond. Am I to think that this is the actual answer as to why our band is literally in the worst place to be in the lower bowl?
Post by: Trogdor on December 01, 2014, 03:37:39 AM
Post by: Katpappy on December 01, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
I like bands. I do not like our band director. Mostly because he won't play SWP.http://youtu.be/oXipeN0mveo
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2014, 05:58:16 PM
kiss the rings, bitches.
Frank, its been 2.5 and no one has responded. I'm guessing it's because no one knows what the hell you're referencing.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 18, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Pitbull on top of the press box in the snow!
Dale!
Tree oh fie!!
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Post by: POWL on December 19, 2014, 08:15:23 AM
if I ever see a band member, it's fisticuffs - period
:confused:
Post by: slobber on December 19, 2014, 08:27:33 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: ednksu on December 19, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
as an avid listener of 91.9 I know exactly what he is talking aboutkiss the rings, bitches.
Frank, its been 2.5 and no one has responded. I'm guessing it's because no one knows what the hell you're referencing.
Post by: Yard Dog on December 19, 2014, 08:52:52 AM
Give me one good reason to have a band
So there's someone in the stands at lady cats basketball games?
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 19, 2014, 08:53:37 AM
Post by: bones129 on December 19, 2014, 11:54:12 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 19, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
Post by: POWL on December 19, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
Post by: ksutrumpet on December 19, 2014, 01:15:30 PM
Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
Truth
Post by: MakeItRain on December 19, 2014, 08:19:23 PM
Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
I bet the band sounds great these days, unfortunately I have no idea what they sound like because the band director would rather have a good seat for the game than have all of the fans enjoy the hard work of the students in the band.
Post by: "storm"nut on December 20, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
I bet the band sounds great these days, unfortunately I have no idea what they sound like because the band director would rather have a good seat for the game than have all of the fans enjoy the hard work of the students in the band.
Bill wants the band where it is and has fought it being moved. Frank has little say in the AD. Bill wants the band there for the same reason he wants the students there as well. Feels like it interrupts the opposing teams sideline.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 20, 2014, 05:00:08 PM
Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
I bet the band sounds great these days, unfortunately I have no idea what they sound like because the band director would rather have a good seat for the game than have all of the fans enjoy the hard work of the students in the band.
Bill wants the band where it is and has fought it being moved. Frank has little say in the AD. Bill wants the band there for the same reason he wants the students there as well. Feels like it interrupts the opposing teams sideline.
Well, well, well; LHC Bill Snyder acting in a self-serving manner, what a shocker.
Post by: Katpappy on December 20, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
That's why they call him a wizard and not a babysitter for crybabies that can't handle competition.Its a cool award and good for our university and students.agree.......their job is basically to be super K-STATEO ......and they do it about as well as I have seen any marching band......in conference or out
the kids should get the credit......cuz Frank has been cray-cray for 20 plus years.....award or not
I bet the band sounds great these days, unfortunately I have no idea what they sound like because the band director would rather have a good seat for the game than have all of the fans enjoy the hard work of the students in the band.
Bill wants the band where it is and has fought it being moved. Frank has little say in the AD. Bill wants the band there for the same reason he wants the students there as well. Feels like it interrupts the opposing teams sideline.
Well, well, well; LHC Bill Snyder acting in a self-serving manner, what a shocker.
Post by: bones129 on December 21, 2014, 12:50:08 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 21, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
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Post by: Katpappy on December 21, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
When Bill wins a Natty like the band he can put them where he wants.When that wand waving fool starts selling out stadium capacity, then he can do what he wants. Pro Tip: Aways obey the rules of the house you're in. BSFS. :billdance:
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Post by: bones129 on December 22, 2014, 12:22:08 AM
When Bill wins a Natty like the band he can put them where he wants.When that wand waving fool starts selling out stadium capacity, then he can do what he wants. Pro Tip: Aways obey the rules of the house you're in. BSFS. :billdance:
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 05, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
Post by: kst8cat on September 05, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
oh no
#dickinthebeak
Post by: Bloodfart on September 05, 2015, 08:48:19 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 05, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 05, 2015, 09:09:21 PM
Post by: Trim on September 05, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on September 05, 2015, 09:11:52 PM
Post by: Fldermaus on September 05, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
rough ridin'Chicken wingin' band
The fallout from this is going to be glorious :)
Post by: Unruly on September 05, 2015, 09:18:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kirk.schulz
Post by: eastcat on September 05, 2015, 09:19:55 PM
Post by: CNS on September 05, 2015, 09:25:29 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 05, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
KU fans on my FB page are not taking this lying down.From a kneeled position, I would think, would make the most sense.
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Post by: Fldermaus on September 05, 2015, 09:37:34 PM
Phoggies will have an absolute field day with it.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/678fc897dcfe7001d6dc5c2a2091d24d/tumblr_mgmsr8kyyj1rj1d5oo1_500.gif)
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 05, 2015, 09:46:53 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 05, 2015, 09:56:12 PM
this is what the enterprise actually looks like fyi..... i mean.....
Post by: ljmhawk2 on September 05, 2015, 09:59:44 PM
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Post by: CNS on September 05, 2015, 10:10:41 PM
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Post by: slackcat on September 05, 2015, 10:12:33 PM
Post by: PIPE on September 05, 2015, 10:15:41 PM
If this IS true, I am totally disgusted. Is vulgarity what we want to be known for at KSU? If this happened, some severe punishment is due in my opinion. For those of you who think this is cute, please. We're trying to create respect and to be known as a high-value program, this puts us in the toilet. Some explanations are in order. :impatient:
Shut up and go to bed :jerk:
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 05, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
Post by: Trim on September 05, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
https://twitter.com/clemente_denis/status/640361492131528704
Post by: Pendergast on September 05, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
If this IS true, I am totally disgusted. Is vulgarity what we want to be known for at KSU? If this happened, some severe punishment is due in my opinion. For those of you who think this is cute, please. We're trying to create respect and to be known as a high-value program, this puts us in the toilet. Some explanations are in order. :impatient:
Get off my god damn lawn!
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on September 05, 2015, 10:46:58 PM
Some things just aren't meant to be taken seriously.
Post by: Unruly on September 05, 2015, 10:50:45 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 05, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 05, 2015, 11:05:02 PM
The people saying we should get rid of the band should be ashamed of themselves.
Another victory for goEMAW. We really PI'd the band dorks into being better.
Post by: renocat on September 05, 2015, 11:24:58 PM
Post by: bones129 on September 05, 2015, 11:54:31 PM
KU fans on my FB page are not taking this lying down.From a kneeled position, I would think, would make the most sense.
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Post by: bones129 on September 05, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kstatepride/status/640351422429679621
Much more here:
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34224177.html
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2015, 12:42:30 AM
:lol:
https://www.facebook.com/kirk.schulz
What am I missing here?
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 06, 2015, 12:43:36 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2015, 01:19:19 AM
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Little bro syndrome on full display there. I didn't laugh, I find it pretty pathetic and that's what leads to their douche fans taking cheap shots on our players when they beat us in basketball as well as their white trash fans having to sign a sportsmanship clause.
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Maybe 30 makes me old and crotchety but if KU did that towards Mizzou or Kentucky or whoever I'd think it was embarrassing that we have such penis envy towards them that we'd do that.
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What a bunch of hayseed idiots. Band director will get a promotion and Keitzman will talk about how innocent he is all week just like the scumbag who shoved Jamari.
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Kansas resident tax dollars pay that band directors salary?
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Haha idiots. This make the break to the B!G easier. What a bunch of clowns.
Post by: bones129 on September 06, 2015, 01:31:25 AM
BTW, do they not realize they lost to SDSU today? That loss does damage to their creds for a move to any other conference.
Post by: kst8cat on September 06, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
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"The chart below represents the drill from tonight’s show. There was absolutely no intent to display anything other than the Enterprise and the Jayhawk in battle. If I am guilty of anything it would be the inability to teach the drill in a manner that these young people could have succeeded. I do apologize for the misinterpretation and I assure you that I meant absolutely no disrespect or malice toward the University of Kansas."
Post by: cfbandyman on September 06, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
KU to the Big 10. In their dreams. #RockChalkDelusionalHawk
BTW, do they not realize they lost to SDSU today? That loss does damage to their creds for a move to any other conference.
They are the same people that also thinking they should just drop football altogether. Let's see how getting into the big 10 works for them then.
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
Post by: Big Sam on September 06, 2015, 10:19:15 AM
Post by: SdK on September 06, 2015, 10:19:19 AM
https://m.facebook.com/prideofwildcatland (https://m.facebook.com/prideofwildcatland)Smart move.Quote"The chart below represents the drill from tonight’s show. There was absolutely no intent to display anything other than the Enterprise and the Jayhawk in battle. If I am guilty of anything it would be the inability to teach the drill in a manner that these young people could have succeeded. I do apologize for the misinterpretation and I assure you that I meant absolutely no disrespect or malice toward the University of Kansas."
Post by: Blackcats on September 06, 2015, 11:50:55 AM
If this IS true, I am totally disgusted. Is vulgarity what we want to be known for at KSU? If this happened, some severe punishment is due in my opinion. For those of you who think this is cute, please. We're trying to create respect and to be known as a high-value program, this puts us in the toilet. Some explanations are in order. :impatient:
Eat an Enterprise.
Post by: kst8cat on September 06, 2015, 12:06:30 PM
Eat an Enterprise.
:lol:
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 06, 2015, 12:25:00 PM
KU to the Big 10. In their dreams. #RockChalkDelusionalHawk
BTW, do they not realize they lost to SDSU today? That loss does damage to their creds for a move to any other conference.
They are the same people that also thinking they should just drop football altogether. Let's see how getting into the big 10 works for them then.
The Phog: "KU is the 2nd or 3rd best brand in the Big 12. Any conference would be stupid to pass us over because the next conference would grab us in a heartbeat and beat them over the head with it. It doesn't really matter what you think because smart people make smart business decisions."
Post by: Big Sam on September 06, 2015, 12:27:07 PM
KU to the Big 10. In their dreams. #RockChalkDelusionalHawk
BTW, do they not realize they lost to SDSU today? That loss does damage to their creds for a move to any other conference.
They are the same people that also thinking they should just drop football altogether. Let's see how getting into the big 10 works for them then.
The Phog: "KU is the 2nd or 3rd best brand in the Big 12. Any conference would be stupid to pass us over because the next conference would grab us in a heartbeat and beat them over the head with it. It doesn't really matter what you think because smart people make smart business decisions."
Sort of like hiring Chaz and Turner.
Post by: EMAWzified on September 06, 2015, 12:28:20 PM
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How people can make something so innocent seem vulgar :dunno:
I mean what next, do we stop putting hot dogs in buns?
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 06, 2015, 12:40:58 PM
I apparently missed the context in which a jayhawk vs a star trek ship was relevant for game against south dakota. Or that somehow we align our team with star trek.Movie soundtracks make for good marching band features. They play star trek into darkness soundtrack songs. Except they encountered a an ugly space creature.
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Must be refractory period time?
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Post by: cfbandyman on September 06, 2015, 10:18:38 PM
Post by: ljmhawk2 on September 06, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
1. why would they throw in the Jayhawk when they weren't playing them and
2. if it was a spaceship(looked like a dick and balls) why would it fly into it's mouth?
Post by: DQ12 on September 06, 2015, 10:30:28 PM
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/640676260708913152omg
Post by: The Big Train on September 06, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
it didn't offend me what the band did but I have 2 questions.
1. why would they throw in the Jayhawk when they weren't playing them and
2. if it was a spaceship(looked like a dick and balls) why would it fly into it's mouth?
hey Landon! Welcome back! :D
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2015, 10:38:21 PM
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/640676260708913152
YES!
Post by: Unruly on September 06, 2015, 10:39:25 PM
:lol:
https://www.facebook.com/kirk.schulz
What am I missing here?
There were a ton of people raging on his wall about it that have since been deleted.
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2015, 11:02:29 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 06, 2015, 11:05:37 PM
Shatner being emaw af should not surprise anyone
that dude has single handedly gotten me tons of travel deals. he is EMAW to the core
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Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2015, 11:50:11 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on September 07, 2015, 01:55:38 AM
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/640679927193309184
Post by: cfbandyman on September 07, 2015, 01:57:14 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2015, 02:13:58 AM
i'm disappointed in myself that i didn't make the death to smoochy connection before this image
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Post by: kslim on September 07, 2015, 07:52:23 AM
Post by: wabash909 on September 07, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/640676260708913152omg
Better question, why does The Animal continue to make these type of unnecessary apologies that only validate the irrational KU butthurt when taking the Captain Kirk approach is clearly the right path?
Post by: wabash909 on September 07, 2015, 08:46:24 AM
:Wha:
http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2015/09/06/aml-with-dr-frank-tracz/?utm_content=buffera5e5b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2015/09/06/aml-with-dr-frank-tracz/?utm_content=buffera5e5b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Post by: wabash909 on September 07, 2015, 09:31:49 AM
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Post by: Pett on September 07, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
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Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
:horrorsurprise: Oh man! Hopefully we don't have to form a student sportsmanship advisory counsel for the band now too.
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Thank God someone reined in that megalomaniac before he causes even more harm. #firetracz
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2015, 10:52:05 AM
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Pat Bosco, vice president for student life and dean of students, stopped by to show support for Tracz and Ask Me Live just after it was cancelled, seemingly unaware that Schulz and Currie had advised Tracz not to speak.
:D
Post by: Trim on September 07, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 07, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
They really should've saved this controversy for hoops season.
Would be very hard for band to make huge Enterpeen on the court
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
The K-State band has KU t-shirt nation paying even less attention to KU football
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 07, 2015, 11:01:49 AM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 07, 2015, 11:03:01 AM
Post by: Trim on September 07, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
They really should've saved this controversy for hoops season.
Would be very hard for band to make huge Enterpeen on the court
Pep band plays BWW jingle while Nathan Power does homoerotic interpretive dance involving chicken wings and silverback'n.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
They really should've saved this controversy for hoops season.
Would be very hard for band to make huge Enterpeen on the court
Pep band plays BWW jingle while Nathan Power does homoerotic interpretive dance involving chicken wings and silverback'n.
Immediately followed by administrative apologetic tweets, press releases and the formation of a double stealth super secret sportsmanship committee.
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 07, 2015, 01:13:19 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 07, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 07, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
If you look at the whole thing it is the Enterprise
Yeah. The image everyone is using is super cropped.
Not sure if luked:
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/9/6/9269095/opinion-kansas-state-marching-band-and-what-you-dont-realize
Post by: bones129 on September 07, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 04:42:20 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 04:45:27 PM
If you look at the whole thing it is the Enterprise
Yeah. The image everyone is using is super cropped.
Not sure if luked:
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/9/6/9269095/opinion-kansas-state-marching-band-and-what-you-dont-realize
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They started work on it just three weeks ago, during the less-than-a-week band camp that runs the week before school starts. It's three-a-days in the heat of August practicing marching and drill (and not just for halftime shows, but pregame and street marching) or in the rehearsal hall on music. It's tough, and many kids drop out out of band during camp, because it's harder than anything else they've ever done in their lives.
I was in the Pride for 4 seasons, and I don't remember a single person quitting because band camp was the hardest thing they'd ever done in their lives. In fact, I can only recall 2 people quitting in season, but there were probably more.
Band was fun, and it was time consuming, but band folks love to pretend its boot camp, when it isn't.
Post by: The Big Train on September 07, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
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Post by: mocat on September 07, 2015, 04:59:16 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 07, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
i bet you still get a pretty big kick out of it too cf3 :D
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 05:07:44 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 09:08:52 PM
To bad for the band, reading some stuff on social media about how when it all started to unfold on social media they were all pretty upset and dejected.
shut up
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 09:23:14 PM
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 09:46:33 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
yes grandpa. go post some "blah blah blah, Obama Administration started some war... blah blah blah...... SAD."
You need to relax, it's just baseball.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2015, 09:59:36 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 07, 2015, 10:30:22 PM
"Yea, but at least they made it competitive in the fourth quarter."
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 07, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
"Hey, did you hear the news about the Jayhawk sucking dick?"
"Yea, but at least they made it competitive in the fourth quarter."
;)
Post by: bones129 on September 08, 2015, 12:38:54 AM
i went to band camp in jr high. it was like 2 weeks i think and it was at ku. we had to stay in those shitty dorms and it was pretty terrible except for the dance at the end where i kissed a piccolo player :blush:
Did she kiss you back? That's the real test.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2015, 12:41:34 AM
i went to band camp in jr high. it was like 2 weeks i think and it was at ku. we had to stay in those shitty dorms and it was pretty terrible except for the dance at the end where i kissed a piccolo player :blush:
Did she kiss you back? That's the real test.
Despite being at ku, it was def consensual
Post by: bones129 on September 08, 2015, 12:51:23 AM
i went to band camp in jr high. it was like 2 weeks i think and it was at ku. we had to stay in those shitty dorms and it was pretty terrible except for the dance at the end where i kissed a piccolo player :blush:
Did she kiss you back? That's the real test.
Despite being at ku, it was def consensual
:thumbs:
Post by: EMAWzified on September 08, 2015, 09:22:18 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 09:58:49 AM
Post by: wabash909 on September 08, 2015, 10:45:07 AM
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From Geralyn Tracz:
Please share the statement below with as many people as you can:
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
As I watch my husband remain silent at the request of administration as his fate is decided, I feel I am under no such compulsion to do so. As Winston Churchill once said "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
The truth of the current Internet firestorm my family is facing is that my husband and the K-State Marching Band have done NOTHING wrong.
The decisions being made today stem from a complaint of unsportsmanlike conduct filed by the University of Kansas with the Big 12 Commission. To avoid the possibility of more severe sanctions, K-State is deciding how to best “handle” the situation. This situation spiraled out of control when a perceived obscene formation from last Saturday’s halftime was tweeted out to the awaiting Internet mob! Since then, my husband has received emails stating that they are trying to get his name added to the list of sexual predators as well as threats if he shows his face in Lawrence. This, all from the image of a Jayhawk fighting the Starship Enterprise in what I hope people understand was a fictional battle in space.
My husband has also received hundreds of emails and tweets of support from around the country. I have watched him try and fail to control his emotions while reading all of the heartfelt words telling him the difference he has made in their lives and expressing gratitude. He has dedicated his life to education and teaching students how to be the best they can be. Not just on the field or in the classroom, but in life. The K-State Band under his leadership has garnered a nationwide reputation of excellence on and off the field. Wherever they have traveled, bowl games to concerts, officials have written letters to our athletics and admin to say how impressed they were with our student’s respectful behavior and how well they represented K-State. To think he would put something inappropriate in a halftime performance is beyond reason.
While the Big 12 and administrators at both universities spend time debating this issue, I am struck by the absolute absurdity in the context of college football. This is a sport driven by rivalry, passionate fans, and TV revenue. Broadcasts of national rivals make for big ratings and big money. TV and sports shows thrive on it. We watch our schools mascot taunt the opposing mascot and fans. We buy T-shirts with every manner of printed slander against the opposing team. Other bands have depicted the demise of the rival school’s flag and K-State itself had Willie the Wildcat pummel someone dressed as a fan of the other team at every pre-game to the delight of the crowd until it caused physical harm and was prohibited. I have also watched time and time again as athletes break the law and never even miss a practice. And yet - here we are. The reputation of a man and this wonderful organization, who have done nothing but given their time and devotion to the university they love, will be forever tarnished by the image of a jayhawk on the football field. And a CUTE image at that!
I am appealing to all marching band members, high school and college, as well as football fans and community leaders, to express your support IN A RESPECTFUL WAY to administrators at Kansas State and University of Kansas, as well as the Big 12 commissioner. At some point, common sense has to rule and say enough is enough. The Internet can cause so much damage but it can also be a powerful tool. Time to use it for good. (I would have a link to all involved but I’m sure you Internet savvy people can find the info.) Thank you to everyone for your wonderful support and your words of encouragement to our entire family.
Geralyn Tracz – proud wife of Dr. Frank Tracz
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
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Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:00:19 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL #firetracz #both
Luckily #firetracz isn't a thing
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Post by: mocat on September 08, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
isn't being in a band unsportsmanlike?
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:02:25 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL #firetracz #both
Luckily #firetracz isn't a thing
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oh, yard dog
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:04:40 AM
https://www.facebook.com/PetersonFarmBros/posts/970219779666879
From all sides, this is activism at its finest. :lol:
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 11:05:49 AM
Peterson Farm Bros are throwing in their support!
https://www.facebook.com/PetersonFarmBros/posts/970219779666879
From all sides, this is activism at its finest. :lol:
I def agree that we should all start calling those phone numbers with our respective messages.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 11:11:26 AM
The contradiction of a regressive conservative state that has people who apparently see penises everywhere.
Thanks KU!
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:13:39 AM
Peterson Farm Bros are throwing in their support!
https://www.facebook.com/PetersonFarmBros/posts/970219779666879
From all sides, this is activism at its finest. :lol:
Quote from: Peterson Farm Bros
We were all at the game on Saturday and this was Greg's perspective after the game:
-I was at the game yesterday sitting with my brothers in the student section across the aisle from the marching band. As with any season opener, the student section and the band were filled with excitement throughout pre-game and the first half. The band had just been named as the top band in the country and I believe they were anxious to back that up this season.
-Halftime came and the band did their performance. Nathan’s roommate had been hyping the show all week and said it was going to be epic. It was Star Trek/Star Wars themed and the band did several songs and formations that were pretty awesome. Then announcer said something about a “space monster” and then the “spaceship” the band had formed smashed into the “space monster” AKA jayhawk. I did not hear a single comment from anyone in the student section on the formation. It was simply an awesome halftime show. We cheered and moved on.
-It took about an hour for the controversy to hit social media. Without the internet, this fades away with maybe a handful of people thinking those thoughts. However, somebody must have thought to post it to social media. Of course, something of that nature is going to spread like wildfire and soon it was all over the place. Soon we noticed that Dr. Tracz had left from directing the band. By the 4th quarter, the excitement level of the band had decreased drastically. Everyone seemed uneasy and they played the songs without their typical enthusiasm. Dr. Tracz returned looking devastated, like he was about to cry. I know Dr. Tracz and he loves K-State so much, if he ever knew he had done something to harm the reputation of the school he would be sick. He was in discussion for the rest of the game with a guy who looked like the social media manager (he was constantly looking at his phone) and another lady who I’m guessing was the communicator between him and K-State leadership. They looked very upset.
-I minored in music at K-State and spent 4 years as somewhat part of the music department. All of the directors (choir and band) are huge K-State fans, especially Dr. Tracz. They are also quality, upstanding individuals and impactful leaders. Dr. Tracz has mentored and influenced thousands of students over his time at KSU and he is so passionate about what he does. The culture of the music department at K-State is so far opposite of what is being said about them online and in the news.
-I believe 100% that they would never intentionally portray what some sick-minded people thought they portrayed. Think about all the hours spent working on a performance in 90-100 degree heat. Think about all the freshman out on the field experiencing their first game. Think about the honor and pride the band would feel after winning that award. Why in the world would anyone involved with that program put all of that at risk to do something as offensive and inappropriate as what is being claimed? It is absurd to think that someone would be stupid enough to A) Plan that on purpose B) Get the okay from leadership to go through with it during the game and C) Not realize that something of that nature would be devastating to K-State’s reputation as a family friendly school.
-No, I don’t think it was necessary to bring KU into the halftime show when we were playing South Dakota. Especially when KU fans were already beaten down from losing to an FCS school that afternoon. Not necessary. However, the concept makes sense, if you are going to blow something up with a spaceship, you’d want it to be the villain that the stadium will recognize. Would the students recognize a coyote? Anything else? The Jayhawk was definitely identifiable. If the innuendos wouldn’t have been brought up, this would not have been a big deal at all. It’s a rivalry and this would have all been in good fun. I wish they wouldn’t have involved KU, but they did and now some (not all) KU fans are calling K-State classless, unsportsmanlike, and are calling for Dr. Tracz to be fired.
-How do you think this makes these band members feel? These students worked tirelessly for many hours to make that program possible and were feeling so much pride in their work because of the award they received. Many of them were living out their dream of marching as part of the KSU band for the first time. Now? They are devastated. How do you think this makes Dr. Tracz feel? He has been working for years to build the band up to wear they would receive an award like that. He is one of the biggest KSU fans and university contributors out there and now people are calling for him to be fired? I feel for everyone involved in all of this. I truly believe they meant no harm.
-This whole situation makes me sad for 3 reasons. One, it shows how perverted our culture is and how corrupt our media is for stirring the pot as much as they did just to get ratings and response. Two, it has caused extreme damage in reputation to a school and (>95% of the) fan base that has one of the most positive, family oriented cultures out there. And finally, it overshadows K-State winning their season opener, LHC Bill Snyder being inducted into the hall of fame, Nelson, Scott Sproles, Bishop being inducted into the ring of honor, a new stadium addition, and a marching band that is one of the best in the country. I believe no one intended for any of this to happen and I hope everyone can understand that.
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 11:15:25 AM
Post by: wabash909 on September 08, 2015, 11:16:29 AM
KU, our amateurish response, our total lack of awareness toward giving legitimacy to issues that are completely insignificant. It all blows my mind.
But, I guess if ChickenWing Gate taught us anything, it's that we are completely clueless in how to play the PR game.
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:17:33 AM
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 11:17:43 AM
This entire thing blows my mind.
KU, our amateurish response, our inability to play the PR game, our lack of awareness toward giving legitimacy to issues that are completely insignificant. It all blows my mind.
Don't let it blow your mind next time.
Post by: LynchMob42 on September 08, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
ADJC and UPKS had better stand up and get this right. Support the band. Squash this stupid "unsportsmanlike" BS.
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:18:23 AM
This entire thing blows my mind.
KU, our amateurish response, our inability to play the PR game, our lack of awareness toward giving legitimacy to issues that are completely insignificant. It all blows my mind.
Reminds me of our overreaction and inability to take advantage of the viral hit that was EcoKat.
RIP EcoKat.
Post by: slobber on September 08, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
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Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Can anybody get a confirmation that KU filed a complaint? That would be outstanding.
Are you questioning Geralyn Tracz, proud wife of Dr. Frank Tracz?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 11:21:11 AM
Thanks KU!
Post by: eastcat on September 08, 2015, 11:22:19 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
Quote from: KCTV Sports in reference to the jayhawk
It's one of the coolest mascots if not the coolest mascot in sports.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: wabash909 on September 08, 2015, 11:23:30 AM
This entire thing blows my mind.
KU, our amateurish response, our inability to play the PR game, our lack of awareness toward giving legitimacy to issues that are completely insignificant. It all blows my mind.
Reminds me of our overreaction and inability to take advantage of the viral hit that was EcoKat.
RIP EcoKat.
It basically reminds me of EVER Y time we are faced with a public relations related issue.
We literally manufacture the crisis by legitimizing the issue every single time with the amateur hour way we manage these events.
The way it's handled is you say nothing, BECAUSE NOTHING NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED OR LEGITIMIZED or you laugh it off like William Shatner this weekend immediately by saying something humorous like "I wonder if Mother Nature needs to apologize for cloud formations with these same people".
Post by: eastcat on September 08, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 08, 2015, 11:31:35 AM
http://www.k-state.edu/media/update/bandletter.html
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Post by: wabash909 on September 08, 2015, 11:33:26 AM
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Post by: eastcat on September 08, 2015, 11:34:18 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2015, 11:35:06 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 08, 2015, 11:35:33 AM
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 11:36:26 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:36:35 AM
A self imposed $5,000 fine? What in the eff.
Who does that fine go to? KU? and where does the money come from? the bands budget?
Post by: Trogdor on September 08, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
Post by: eastcat on September 08, 2015, 11:39:32 AM
This removes all hope of us ever actually cheating to be good at sports. We would find out about ourselves and voluntarily close down the school.
Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
:ROFL: Nobody victimizes itself better than we do.
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That is just pathetic. If he did what he was accused of, he should be fired. If he didn't (which is obviously the case), then why issue any sanctions? This is literally the worst thing they could have done--it pisses off absolutely everyone.
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
Post by: 0.42 on September 08, 2015, 11:48:59 AM
Post by: TownieCat on September 08, 2015, 11:50:15 AM
It's my understanding the sanctions come from us putting another team's mascot on the field. . .not the supposed felatio.That's how I interpreted it too.
The only thing worse than over the top outrage from KU fans is anyone who is disgruntled over UPKS's letter to the band. Good grief.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 11:50:54 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 11:51:26 AM
Post by: O-town Kat on September 08, 2015, 11:51:33 AM
Post by: POWL on September 08, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
The sanctions are for drawing a Jayhawk. They have nothing to do with the Enterprise. We hurt KU's feelings, and those feelings are worth $5000 and a trip to Lawrence.
was that in "the pledge" they took ? I doubt it, so they drew a line from opposing mascot to sportsmanship, and did so retroactively
pretty cowardly by the Pres
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:52:42 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 08, 2015, 11:54:07 AM
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 11:56:03 AM
would people please start using a NSFW when attaching articles that show these obscene pictures of the band, my 7 year old son just walked into the room while I was reading that article, now it looks like he'll be learning about fellatio today, thanks guys.Or you could explain that it was The Enterprise blowing up a monster. But whatever you believe your son saw. If he has already seen an erection, and can identify with that, you can't blame the band for that.
Post by: POWL on September 08, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
other than the fine (which is absolutely absurd), everything else in the letter seems appropriate. When I saw the initial video I both laughed my ass off and thought the entire band deserved a one game suspension. I mean, there was at best a severe lack of awareness and oversight.
this is baby crap........you should see Stanford's Band and half time shows
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 11:58:57 AM
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 11:59:43 AM
he's got to be the hottest name in band formations right now.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 08, 2015, 12:00:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:00:55 PM
other than the fine (which is absolutely absurd), everything else in the letter seems appropriate. When I saw the initial video I both laughed my ass off and thought the entire band deserved a one game suspension. I mean, there was at best a severe lack of awareness and oversight.
this is baby crap........you should see Stanford's Band and half time shows
I'VE SEEN ONE IN PERSON AND I SAW NOTHING THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS FELLATIO.
Also Stanford's band is suspended pretty regularly (granted this is for stuff not on the field, but they've been suspended plenty for stuff on the field). http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/05/15/stanford-cardinal-band-road-game-ban-travel
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 12:01:14 PM
Bill Shatner.
Post by: Mike Ahearn on September 08, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztAMzzjH0I
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Sad.
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 12:02:44 PM
Post by: Trogdor on September 08, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
@WilliamShatner: I think it's time for the @Big12Conference leaders to step down and get their eyes checked. What a travesty! https://t.co/VDkOOA5dUl
Bill Shatner.
Shat is :ksu:
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 12:03:46 PM
*or in this case, pro boner, because band dick
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 12:06:52 PM
My guess is we lose him over this. I don't think I could work diligently with leadership (and I am in management myself) that shows that kind of lack of support. He has done amazing things at KSU, and I believe he will be picked up and paid well by someone else very soon.
To be clear: nobody cares about the band director or the band. Nobody even knew his name until Saturday night.
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on September 08, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 08, 2015, 12:10:51 PM
My guess is we lose him over this. I don't think I could work diligently with leadership (and I am in management myself) that shows that kind of lack of support. He has done amazing things at KSU, and I believe he will be picked up and paid well by someone else very soon.
To be clear: nobody cares about the band director or the band. Nobody even knew his name until Saturday night.
to be honest, I hate the band and their thrice-annual performance of the best of Chicago, but I know who Tracz is. And it wouldn't shock me if he left over this. To be sold out publicly like they did is ridiculous. Just pandering.
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:10:58 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Nobody cares until our band is KU-bad. And his name is not that important. The leader of the award-winning band was just shamed by his administration. While that means nothing to many, it means a great deal to others.My guess is we lose him over this. I don't think I could work diligently with leadership (and I am in management myself) that shows that kind of lack of support. He has done amazing things at KSU, and I believe he will be picked up and paid well by someone else very soon.
To be clear: nobody cares about the band director or the band. Nobody even knew his name until Saturday night.
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 12:12:40 PM
Are You Smarter Than a Wolverine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztAMzzjH0I
That is amazing. This is what we need to point to when any jayhawk fan starts saying how weird it was that we would put a jayhawk on the field when we weren't even playing them.
Post by: Brock Landers on September 08, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:13:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 12:14:01 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
For putting another teams mascot on the field or for the spaceship that kind of looked like a penis from a certain angle?
If it's suspensions for other team stuff than suspensions need to abound across the whole conference.
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 12:15:30 PM
would people please start using a NSFW when attaching articles that show these obscene pictures of the band, my 7 year old son just walked into the room while I was reading that article, now it looks like he'll be learning about fellatio today, thanks guys.Or you could explain that it was The Enterprise blowing up a monster. But whatever you believe your son saw. If he has already seen an erection, and can identify with that, you can't blame the band for that.
he is adamant that he saw male genitals and balls tho
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:16:02 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
For putting another teams mascot on the field or for the spaceship that kind of looked like a penis from a certain angle?
for the spaceship that looked like a penis going into the mascot's mouth with that certain angle being the angle it was designed to be viewed from.
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 12:17:02 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:17:36 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
For putting another teams mascot on the field or for the spaceship that kind of looked like a penis from a certain angle?
for the spaceship that looked like a penis going into the mascot's mouth with that certain angle being the angle it was designed to be viewed from.
"I saw a dick ... ". cRusty
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
Post by: CNS on September 08, 2015, 12:19:41 PM
It's my understanding the sanctions come from us putting another team's mascot on the field. . .not the supposed felatio.
That is a bullshit fallback to prevent a bigger issue by fining ourselves for a dick pic. If we did that, the conf would come down on us since we would have basically admitted that we actually intentionally made a dick pic. Would make this dumbass fine look like a good idea. Everyone else just does nothing. Its the easiest thing to do. Literally. How did we not do nothing?
Post by: Karlen on September 08, 2015, 12:19:46 PM
Find me the sportsmanship rule about other teams' mascots and I'll quickly bang out a much better letter, pro bono*.
*or in this case, pro boner, because band dick
Until the kid had the seizure on the field, our pre game was spent depicting Willie beating the crap out of the opponents mascot. I guess Shulz is picking and choosing when these rules apply.
Post by: CNS on September 08, 2015, 12:20:38 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 12:21:58 PM
yeah if the jayhawk was just there sans penis there would be nbd
I think only you, me, and brock, understand this, bud.
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
https://twitter.com/caboni/status/641296660098904068
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000341917892/ce25f06861e2518cda5c2fc10feb0ddc_400x400.jpeg)
lol
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 08, 2015, 12:23:39 PM
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 12:27:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2015, 12:28:15 PM
https://twitter.com/caboni/status/641296660098904068
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000341917892/ce25f06861e2518cda5c2fc10feb0ddc_400x400.jpeg)
lol
Lol
Post by: #LIFE on September 08, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
How awesome would it be if Shatner paid the fine? Pretty awesome I'm guessing.
Post by: CNS on September 08, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 08, 2015, 12:31:11 PM
You tell the band director not to put anybody else's mascot on the field behind closed doors and publicly you shame anyone that says it was a dick.
Yeah this is exactly what you do. UPKS is such a pussy.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 12:33:55 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
https://twitter.com/caboni/status/641296660098904068
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000341917892/ce25f06861e2518cda5c2fc10feb0ddc_400x400.jpeg)
lol
Lol
This is their bosco guys, I mean that says it all :lol:
Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2015, 12:36:02 PM
http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
I'd love to throw cash at the Big 12 just to show :kstategrad: but I'm pretty suspicious about the intentions behind this.
Post by: LynchMob42 on September 08, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
schulz and currie both made jabs at ku in the ring of honor ceremony on friday. shouldn't they be fined?
I want to hear more about this.
Post by: steve dave on September 08, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on September 08, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
schulz and currie both made jabs at ku in the ring of honor ceremony on friday. shouldn't they be fined?
I want to hear more about this.
schulz called them 'sisters of the poor' at one point. currie mentioned it but may not have actually been talking trash, i don't remember the exact context.
Post by: Brock Landers on September 08, 2015, 12:43:26 PM
You tell the band director not to put anybody else's mascot on the field behind closed doors and publicly you shame anyone that says it was a dick.
Yeah this is exactly what you do. UPKS is such a pussy.
I'm also disappointed in him. He started off handling it properly with that "Sorry if you were offended" non-apology but then he totally pissed himself with today's ridiculous sanctions as this thing got more and more attention over the rest of the weekend.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 08, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
Quote
The legacy of Dr. Tracz has been tainted...:Keke:
Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 08, 2015, 12:49:23 PM
Post by: kslim on September 08, 2015, 12:49:31 PM
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Quote
As many of you are aware, this past Saturday's halftime performance by the K-State Marching Band has been the subject of much consternation across social and traditional media. The "issue" relates to the conclusion of the band's Star Trek-themed performance, in which they humorously depicted a starship battling a "space monster," represented by Kansas University's mascot.
Unfortunately, some have determined that the depiction instead represented an inappropriate act. To those who viewed the performance in that light, we regret what you saw. Upon reflection, any ambiguity certainly could have been prevented by simply not attempting to utilize that mascot as a representation of a monster, and going forward, the Band will not utilize other schools' mascots to represent monsters or other antagonists in their performances.
Tickets for the Band's next performance at the home football game against Louisiana Tech are available at kstatesports.com.
Post by: CNS on September 08, 2015, 12:52:37 PM
This should have been the only response to anyone about this, and should have only been said, once.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 12:59:39 PM
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Post by: CNS on September 08, 2015, 01:01:16 PM
Post by: ArchE_Cat on September 08, 2015, 01:04:30 PM
I hope the band makes fun of the $5k in the next show
replace jayhawk with" $5k" and ram the enterprise into it
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 01:14:26 PM
Post by: renocat on September 08, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
Post by: MadCat on September 08, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
The band should apologize that the penis looked so shoddy
I second this motion.
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on September 08, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
strange for the admin that issued a big meat non apology for the chiknwingin court storming to give up even this much.
Yeah, this is pretty much like the exact opposite of the Currie/Dan Patrick interview.
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2015, 01:28:42 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2015, 01:29:13 PM
https://twitter.com/caboni/status/641296660098904068
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000341917892/ce25f06861e2518cda5c2fc10feb0ddc_400x400.jpeg)
lol
If you stare at the glasses/nose just right, you can see a penis.
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 01:37:54 PM
This "Big 12 Commision" was probably giving a do something or else ultimatum so the administration released this letter with a bunch of stuff the lawyers told them to say and gave the band a slap on the wrist.
Think about it, a $5k fine that could be paid with gofundme if they so choose, Tracz can't go to the KU game, and prior approval (which amounts to someone asking if it includes another team's mascot or unintentional genitals) is not much if the conference was going to try and Roger Goddell us.
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
The whole thing is a bunch of crap as far as I am concerned, and I usually don't care that much about what JC and KS do, or anyone else for that matter.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 08, 2015, 01:44:06 PM
The band should apologize that the penis looked so shoddy
No doubt. The dick looked just like the USS Enterprise.
Post by: TownieCat on September 08, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 01:45:01 PM
:)The band should apologize that the penis looked so shoddy
No doubt. The dick looked just like the USS Enterprise.
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 01:45:37 PM
Post by: POWL on September 08, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 08, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
This is about how everyone hates Tracz. No more, no less. #firetracz
youre a rough ridin' idiot
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 08, 2015, 01:51:21 PM
How do you even pronounce tracz
trace
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2015, 01:51:32 PM
How do you even pronounce tracz
tracks
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 01:52:44 PM
How do you even pronounce tracz
penis
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
How do you even pronounce tracz
penis
:lol:
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 01:56:03 PM
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 01:57:27 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on September 08, 2015, 01:58:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:07:04 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
I didn't see a video but I was there and my wife said "look it's the spaceship from Star Trek" I said "huh looks a bit phallic to me" and looked back down at my phone trying to connect to the rough ridin' WiFi and didn't think about it again until twitter blew up. I showed my wife and she said "I didn't see that." So no, no one should be suspended, fined, reprimanded, etc.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:10:27 PM
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 08, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTR68LEzXUQ
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/Pretty scary when Tracz says there are enough threats from KU fans that he is considering not taking the band to Lawrence.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:14:50 PM
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$510
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1595
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Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
Divert all power to forward deflector shieldshttp://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/Pretty scary when Tracz says there are enough threats from KU fans that he is considering not taking the band to Lawrence.
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
I didn't see a video but I was there and my wife said "look it's the spaceship from Star Trek" I said "huh looks a bit phallic to me" and looked back down at my phone trying to connect to the rough ridin' WiFi and didn't think about it again until twitter blew up. I showed my wife and she said "I didn't see that." So no, no one should be suspended, fined, reprimanded, etc.
the video looks a lot like a penis going into a jayhawk's mouth
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
$2885 in 2 hours.http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
$510
Now at $695 with 27 donors.
1595
60 people, 1 hour
Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Averaging $25 per person, not that much when you think about it.
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
Divert all power to forward deflector shieldshttp://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/Pretty scary when Tracz says there are enough threats from KU fans that he is considering not taking the band to Lawrence.
You've seen the crap Beems posts, and he isn't even the worst of the worst at Phog. You really don't think some of those people wouldn't go full CU and toss some D cells at our band?
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 02:22:44 PM
Divert all power to forward deflector shieldshttp://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/Pretty scary when Tracz says there are enough threats from KU fans that he is considering not taking the band to Lawrence.
You've seen the crap Beems posts, and he isn't even the worst of the worst at Phog. You really don't think some of those people wouldn't go full CU and toss some D cells at our band?
I, for one, am looking forward to the warm, welcoming reception the band will receive from the fine, upstanding, and, above all, classy folks from KU
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
cRusty just trying so very hard to be edgey.
Sad.
saying the band deserved a suspension is "edgey"? I mean, you saw the video, right?
I didn't see a video but I was there and my wife said "look it's the spaceship from Star Trek" I said "huh looks a bit phallic to me" and looked back down at my phone trying to connect to the rough ridin' WiFi and didn't think about it again until twitter blew up. I showed my wife and she said "I didn't see that." So no, no one should be suspended, fined, reprimanded, etc.
the video looks a lot like a penis going into a jayhawk's mouth
Who cares what your opinion is when we know what it is? If I said it looked like a clitoris and vulva and they were making a subtile depiction of KU's rape culture will we just go with that and call it good?
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 02:24:32 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 08, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
By apologizing at all, he legitimized a non story. He shouldn't have said crap.You tell the band director not to put anybody else's mascot on the field behind closed doors and publicly you shame anyone that says it was a dick.
Yeah this is exactly what you do. UPKS is such a pussy.
I'm also disappointed in him. He started off handling it properly with that "Sorry if you were offended" non-apology but then he totally pissed himself with today's ridiculous sanctions as this thing got more and more attention over the rest of the weekend.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:26:30 PM
no one cares about the updates, edso edgy
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
oh man you topped yourself. you're so cool.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
$2885 in 2 hours.http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
$510
Now at $695 with 27 donors.
1595
60 people, 1 hour
Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Averaging $25 per person, not that much when you think about it.
25 cents is too much. Give that $25 to a homeless person or something. Whomever is paying this fine isn't missing a meal.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2015, 02:28:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:28:49 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
Agree on that, lol what does he think is going to happen? Pretty dramatic.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
In the interview Tracz said the University is paying the fine. I wonder where they are getting that money. If its student fees I have a problem. If they were "sending a message" or whatever, fine Tracz or the band. If that were the case I don't see an issue with crowd funding the fine for him. I also wouldn't put it past the admin to drop his budget by 5k either. Also than, I wouldn't have a problem crowd funding a donation to the band.$2885 in 2 hours.http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
$510
Now at $695 with 27 donors.
1595
60 people, 1 hour
Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Averaging $25 per person, not that much when you think about it.
25 cents is too much. Give that $25 to a homeless person or something. Whomever is paying this fine isn't missing a meal.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 08, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
In the interview Tracz said the University is paying the fine. I wonder where they are getting that money. If its student fees I have a problem. If they were "sending a message" or whatever, fine Tracz or the band. If that were the case I don't see an issue with crowd funding the fine for him. I also wouldn't put it past the admin to drop his budget by 5k either. Also than, I wouldn't have a problem crowd funding a donation to the band.$2885 in 2 hours.http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
$510
Now at $695 with 27 donors.
1595
60 people, 1 hour
Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Averaging $25 per person, not that much when you think about it.
25 cents is too much. Give that $25 to a homeless person or something. Whomever is paying this fine isn't missing a meal.
Why would you have a problem if student fees were used? Also they can't unilaterally decide to reduce his budget $5000.
Post by: ednksu on September 08, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
In the interview Tracz said the University is paying the fine. I wonder where they are getting that money. If its student fees I have a problem. If they were "sending a message" or whatever, fine Tracz or the band. If that were the case I don't see an issue with crowd funding the fine for him. I also wouldn't put it past the admin to drop his budget by 5k either. Also than, I wouldn't have a problem crowd funding a donation to the band.$2885 in 2 hours.http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
$510
Now at $695 with 27 donors.
1595
60 people, 1 hour
Can these people not find a better use of their money, christ?
Averaging $25 per person, not that much when you think about it.
25 cents is too much. Give that $25 to a homeless person or something. Whomever is paying this fine isn't missing a meal.
Why would you have a problem if student fees were used? Also they can't unilaterally decide to reduce his budget $5000.
If we're operating under the premise that what he did was wrong with the show than he should have to pay for it, not the random student whose $.0003 of their tuition dollars pays for this fine. Student fees are to facilitate the academic process not pay for fines for someone doing something in appropriate, without the university's knowledge before hand.
And I'll defer to you and Dax on budget, but there was a lot of smoke about the AD pushing the band around on things for money and travel even on bowl trips.
Post by: Pett on September 08, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
when I explained this whole ordeal to my mom, I think it was the first time I ever said the word penis around her.
Congrats
Post by: SdK on September 08, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 03:11:30 PM
Big 12 person: Hey Kirk, how's it going today? Just thought you should know the KU is threatening to file a complaint against you guys.
Kirk: Oh for Pete's sake
Big 12 person: Yea, it's ridiculous, but you know how it is, we've got to do something
Kirk: Ok, well, how about we just donate $5k to the conference and call it a sportsmanship fine and not have our band director travel to the KU game and call it a "suspension", then have our lawyers write up some mumbo jumbo about upholding sportsmanship?
Big 12 person: Sounds good, maybe say you'll check over their stuff beforehand too.
Kirk: Oh, yea, sure
Big 12 person: Cool, have a good day and good luck this season
Kirk: Thanks. Bye. *click*
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 03:17:49 PM
He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything.
I hope he and his ilk are mad that gE RT'd the most lol parts of the whole spectacle.
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 03:19:25 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
Quote from: tracz (sp?)
I talk too much, don't I?
Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2015, 03:29:14 PM
I think at the next game the band should walk out to the field, stand in straight lines and play a few songs. Then walk off. Nothing to get into trouble with, and the AD and Pres. will smile that all is well.
The whole thing is a bunch of crap as far as I am concerned, and I usually don't care that much about what JC and KS do, or anyone else for that matter.
I would need to see the formation charts, but that sounds like a bunch of penises to me.
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 03:31:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ByJoeDavis/status/641344979328090112
https://twitter.com/thesarahkelly/status/640345574227709952
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 03:36:53 PM
I'd also like to show my friends the cool star wars stuff.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 08, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Does anyone have a like to the actual full performance? I feel like everyone has only seen those few seconds. To me if you are watching it in context with the whole show it is a lot less of an obvious moment.
I'd also like to show my friends the cool star wars stuff.
no, yard dag, we dont.
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2015, 03:50:03 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
Does anyone have a like to the actual full performance? I feel like everyone has only seen those few seconds. To me if you are watching it in context with the whole show it is a lot less of an obvious moment.
I'd also like to show my friends the cool star wars stuff.
You can watch it on k-statehd.tv if you pay the $10.
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 03:52:46 PM
Does anyone have a like to the actual full performance? I feel like everyone has only seen those few seconds. To me if you are watching it in context with the whole show it is a lot less of an obvious moment.
I'd also like to show my friends the cool star wars stuff.
no, yard dag, we dont.
:frown: That is really sad. The show was really cool. I really wish I could show it off. Poor band kids cant even brag about how cool they are.
Everyone that I have talked with that watched it in context did not see anything but the enterprise and it flying at a space monster. Everyone who has only seen those few seconds see something else.
You can watch it on k-statehd.tv if you pay the $10.
I looked there but they took the halftime show out of the game replay.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
I looked there but they took the halftime show out of the game replay.
WTF Schulz?
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
I looked there but they took the halftime show out of the game replay.
WTF Schulz?
You can watch the ring of honor ceremony separately, but not the band's halftime show. :frown:
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 08, 2015, 03:59:39 PM
:emawkid:
https://twitter.com/ByJoeDavis/status/641344979328090112
https://twitter.com/thesarahkelly/status/640345574227709952
So, are all of the band members that formed the penis and balls going to be brought up on rape charges, or just those at the tip?
Post by: kso_FAN on September 08, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on September 08, 2015, 04:14:21 PM
https://twitter.com/kstate_pres/status/641356970469945344
Are fines something they budget for? Or is the president just sitting on stacks of cash?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 08, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 08, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 08, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 08, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
KU pulled the same "unsafe" BS after Chickenwingate.
Post by: catzacker on September 08, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
KU pulled the same "unsafe" BS after Chickenwingate.
I imagine next year Currie will have all the band sign pledges that explicitly states they won't take the form of a dick and shove it into the mouth of a Jayhawk.
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 05:51:55 PM
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 05:54:50 PM
when I explained this whole ordeal to my mom, I think it was the first time I ever said the word penis around her.
Congrats
So between your mom and your son you got to explain penis through three generations.
Post by: Trogdor on September 08, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
Post by: _33 on September 08, 2015, 06:33:57 PM
Lol. Classic.
Post by: RockState2000 on September 08, 2015, 06:38:52 PM
Just thought of a hilarious thing: fellate-gate.
Lol. Classic.
Like
Post by: #LIFE on September 08, 2015, 06:47:24 PM
Post by: Spracne on September 08, 2015, 07:02:28 PM
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 07:03:04 PM
i went to band camp in jr high. it was like 2 weeks i think and it was at ku. we had to stay in those shitty dorms and it was pretty terrible except for the dance at the end where i kissed a piccolo player :blush:OMG!!! The bastard should have kept his zipper shut. Was it in a public place? (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fhorrorsurprise.gif&hash=b2b4b955e4b5caf70e908c10fb0e36fa45fc37bd)
BTW, shouldn't this be in the "shame yourself" thread? (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2FDunno.gif&hash=96a748f69e592eb38bc8028c226f18a552696f3a)
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
I have only heard about this whole thing from KSU fans who claim KU fans are stirring crap up.Face book posts, though.
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 07:11:42 PM
http://jmc.ksu.edu/current/public-relations.html
Post by: steve dave on September 08, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
I know dogs and cats that are better at PR than the braintrust in Anderson Hall.
I'm not joking even a tiny bit when I say KSU should hire gE (so basically me) to do all PR type stuff. The Animal wants to tweet something? He goes through the gE editor. We would work for free also. Please consider.
Post by: CHONGS on September 08, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
and yet, UPKS and Co. do everything they can to screw it up. EMAW? no. that needs to go. Jamar? F'em ban'em. Leti? more like letus take an opportunity to make ourselves look bad. is this weird band issue starting to heal and blow over? better publicly reprimand the beloved band director rather than force the conference's hand to issue a bogus punishment for a bogus crime.
it's mind blowing how inept they are. do they anticipate how the public is going to perceive things? have they ever interacted with other humans?
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 07:39:16 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 07:40:19 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 08, 2015, 07:40:46 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 08, 2015, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 07:46:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2015, 07:47:10 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2015, 07:48:54 PM
yeah, feels pretty good clamsof course it does
it's great to be porn kings
can't wait to see what tracz drops on us next, he should host a big time porno slut like that ku bball coach did
I didn't see those dickheads giving $5k to the b12 after that incident
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 07:52:21 PM
OMG, are you calling MM what I think you're calling him. #shamefulpervertwould people please start using a NSFW when attaching articles that show these obscene pictures of the band, my 7 year old son just walked into the room while I was reading that article, now it looks like he'll be learning about fellatio today, thanks guys.Or you could explain that it was The Enterprise blowing up a monster. But whatever you believe your son saw. If he has already seen an erection, and can identify with that, you can't blame the band for that.
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 07:59:52 PM
OMG, are you calling MM what I think you're calling him. #shamefulpervertwould people please start using a NSFW when attaching articles that show these obscene pictures of the band, my 7 year old son just walked into the room while I was reading that article, now it looks like he'll be learning about fellatio today, thanks guys.Or you could explain that it was The Enterprise blowing up a monster. But whatever you believe your son saw. If he has already seen an erection, and can identify with that, you can't blame the band for that.
Not even close. I'm just saying if that was the first time the seven year old saw that he wouldn't know what it was.
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 08:08:37 PM
Are You Smarter Than a Wolverine?Those SOB's should be fired, fined and disbanded!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztAMzzjH0I
LOL. This should be sent to the Animal. #shamefultard
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 08, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 08:38:12 PM
https://twitter.com/beems34/status/641307068859875333^-----so this is what a dickhead who sees dicks looks like. Whelp, I suppose he would know.
Post by: Unruly on September 08, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 08:44:55 PM
If you turn it so the view is the same as we saw band on the field on gayday; yea I too, see a dick face.https://twitter.com/caboni/status/641296660098904068
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000341917892/ce25f06861e2518cda5c2fc10feb0ddc_400x400.jpeg)
lol
If you stare at the glasses/nose just right, you can see a penis.
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
when I explained this whole ordeal to my mom, I think it was the first time I ever said the word penis around her.So your mom, son and you were all staring at a huge penis instead of just watching a fine LOL performance by the band.
Post by: Canary on September 08, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
Another regret in my life; I never got to have this experience. I'm envious.when I explained this whole ordeal to my mom, I think it was the first time I ever said the word penis around her.So your mom, son and you were all staring at a huge penis instead of just watching a fine LOL performance by the band.
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2015, 09:07:56 PM
This by far is the best post of this entire thread!http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
good grief, get a sense of humor. he deserves a fine.
Rusty what angle are you working here bud? Why in the eff would he have a sense of humor about any of this, he just got aired out publicly by his university president and the conference for kidding around with a rival school? He was utilizing a sense of humor and people like Bowlsby and Schulz made him look like a fool publicly, how the hell is that funny?
You're trying way too hard to be a contrarian.
you're right, "sense of humor" was the wrong choice of words. "self awareness" may have been more appropriate. He screwed up and seems to blame social media more than anything. And GMAFB with the "we're unsafe at KU now" martyr bullshit
KU pulled the same "unsafe" BS after Chickenwingate.
I imagine next year Currie will have all the band sign pledges that explicitly states they won't take the form of a dick and shove it into the mouth of a Jayhawk.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 08, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 08, 2015, 09:39:04 PM
i don't know the humans involved but i do kind of feel bad for tracz or however you spell his name. by all accounts, the guys has worked his ass of for kstate (his employer) for twenty years and he's done a really good job. he wins some kind of national awards. people that know him all seem to like him. i hope his bosses pulled him aside and were like "hey we know this is bullshit, but this is what we're going to do".
given the frank stuff though, this is doubtful. maybe they learned though.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
Silence or stunned incredulous looks, they work when employed properly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 08, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
You know, it is possible to get out in front of something, by doing nothing.
Silence or stunned incredulous looks, they work when employed properly.
absolutely these were the best options. personally i would've went with the incredulous, but silence also would have worked.
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 09:57:41 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
John, did the band form a penis or something that resembled a penis (looks at Currie with get a load of that guy look). ??
JC: I have no earthly idea what he's talking about Kirk (with that John Currie WTF is this smile...you know it when you see it).
UPKS: Well, far be it for us to tell you what you think you saw, but we are in the family business here at KState. Next question.
Post by: puniraptor on September 08, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 08, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 10:09:12 PM
if you want it to look like a penis, it looks like a penis. if you want it to look like the ss enterprise then it looks like the ss enterprise. it was a really bad representation of both.
Yeah but that's a pretty big goof for a band director with 20 years of experience. I think he'll be able to laugh about it and move on, though. (if his band makes it out of Lawrence alive.)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Post by: nicname on September 08, 2015, 10:19:02 PM
schulz and currie both made jabs at ku in the ring of honor ceremony on friday. shouldn't they be fined?
Did you notice how more and more of the highlights they show in pregame stuff come in KU games? I hate our administration so much sometimes.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 08, 2015, 10:26:14 PM
if you want it to look like a penis, it looks like a penis. if you want it to look like the ss enterprise then it looks like the ss enterprise. it was a really bad representation of both.
Yeah but that's a pretty big goof for a band director with 20 years of experience. I think he'll be able to laugh about it and move on, though. (if his band makes it out of Lawrence alive.)
so blame the coach for the actions of the players? interesting. i'll be sure to make a mental note of your take on this subject.
Post by: bones129 on September 08, 2015, 10:26:42 PM
Not only would I deny seeing any kind of phallus, I would deny that it was a jayhawk.
Perfect.
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
Post by: nicname on September 08, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
This would've been fine. I even worked in the usual sign-off to these things.QuoteAs many of you are aware, this past Saturday's halftime performance by the K-State Marching Band has been the subject of much consternation across social and traditional media. The "issue" relates to the conclusion of the band's Star Trek-themed performance, in which they humorously depicted a starship battling a "space monster," represented by Kansas University's mascot.
Unfortunately, some have determined that the depiction instead represented an inappropriate act. To those who viewed the performance in that light, we regret what you saw. Upon reflection, any ambiguity certainly could have been prevented by simply not attempting to utilize that mascot as a representation of a monster, and going forward, the Band will not utilize other schools' mascots to represent monsters or other antagonists in their performances.
Tickets for the Band's next performance at the home football game against Louisiana Tech are available at kstatesports.com.
"Kansas University" was a nice touch.
Post by: nicname on September 08, 2015, 10:34:28 PM
Has anyone taken these classes?
http://jmc.ksu.edu/current/public-relations.html
Took a class called "Sports PR" seems to have been cancelled tho.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 08, 2015, 10:36:09 PM
Well we've established that the band isn't going to make it out Lawrence alive cRusty. So the only thing left to talk about now is who at Kstate gets thrown under the bus by Kirk and John and the numbers they're going write on the undoubtedly already signed check to the Big 12 after the band is murdered.
ISIS of the Big 12.
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 10:40:30 PM
if you want it to look like a penis, it looks like a penis. if you want it to look like the ss enterprise then it looks like the ss enterprise. it was a really bad representation of both.
Yeah but that's a pretty big goof for a band director with 20 years of experience. I think he'll be able to laugh about it and move on, though. (if his band makes it out of Lawrence alive.)
so blame the coach for the actions of the players? interesting. i'll be sure to make a mental note of your take on this subject.
Assuming the Enterprise had been executed perfectly (which based on the layout released, it was close), the shape + the direction and movement of it definitely could been interpreted as a penis being inserted into a Jayhawk mouth. I'm guessing he has veto power for things like this, but I could be wrong. If he does, missing that was a goof on Tracz's part. I won't even go as far as saying it was a "mistake", it's just a head-slapping goof where you say "doh! oh man I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT" and have a laugh and move on and cash your gofundme check.
Post by: cDubya on September 08, 2015, 10:41:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2015, 10:44:17 PM
Has anyone taken these classes?
http://jmc.ksu.edu/current/public-relations.html
rough ridin' Chuck Lubbers :curse:
Post by: bones129 on September 08, 2015, 10:49:30 PM
Just shown on Fallon. #Bigtime
Saw it too. Well played, Jimmy Fallon, Well played. :lol:
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2015, 10:53:10 PM
"Kansas University" was a nice touch.
:nerd:
Post by: wabash909 on September 08, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfBDkxLch.jpg&hash=cf225c689f305389165225f4ade2c1fb00ddc157)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
(https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Pfggu9RKW6KKPZ0t0EeL5hGy0FE=/325x0:3835x2340/709x473/filters:format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47104380/0905151951a.0.0.jpg)
Post by: joda on September 08, 2015, 11:08:12 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on September 08, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
Just shown on Fallon. #Bigtime
Saw it too. Well played, Jimmy Fallon, Well played. :lol:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffotos.fotoflexer.com%2F1c7fe16efbf65dadbcd8bfc8486c33eb.jpg&hash=614670c6c4ba7de31189538371589a024675cdb4)
Post by: Tobias on September 08, 2015, 11:19:35 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F09%2F08%2Fe62504025c007702fb6541678b6b7168.jpg&hash=1417729dc3d9682414a6e65aa3a63de33cbbdcd8)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 08, 2015, 11:37:47 PM
if you want it to look like a penis, it looks like a penis. if you want it to look like the ss enterprise then it looks like the ss enterprise. it was a really bad representation of both.
Yeah but that's a pretty big goof for a band director with 20 years of experience. I think he'll be able to laugh about it and move on, though. (if his band makes it out of Lawrence alive.)
so blame the coach for the actions of the players? interesting. i'll be sure to make a mental note of your take on this subject.
Assuming the Enterprise had been executed perfectly (which based on the layout released, it was close), the shape + the direction and movement of it definitely could been interpreted as a penis being inserted into a Jayhawk mouth. I'm guessing he has veto power for things like this, but I could be wrong. If he does, missing that was a goof on Tracz's part. I won't even go as far as saying it was a "mistake", it's just a head-slapping goof where you say "doh! oh man I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT" and have a laugh and move on and cash your gofundme check.
HEY GUYS! IT'S A GUY THAT'S DONE REALLY WELL AT HIS JOB FOR THE PAST TWENTY YEARS BUT COACHED A BIT TOO COMPLICATED SCHEME AND THE PLAYERS COULD NOT GET IT FOR THE FIRST GAME SO I WANT TO SUSPEND OR FIRE HIM AND I'M THE RATIONAL GUY!!!!
Post by: Bloodfart on September 08, 2015, 11:41:01 PM
To the final frontier my friends.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffotos.fotoflexer.com%2Fb36ba0ddf5a51fb91e352c180a8caabf.jpg&hash=94b958c65a2556bdc3f17493864f41670ac54a04)
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:41:42 PM
if you want it to look like a penis, it looks like a penis. if you want it to look like the ss enterprise then it looks like the ss enterprise. it was a really bad representation of both.
Yeah but that's a pretty big goof for a band director with 20 years of experience. I think he'll be able to laugh about it and move on, though. (if his band makes it out of Lawrence alive.)
so blame the coach for the actions of the players? interesting. i'll be sure to make a mental note of your take on this subject.
Assuming the Enterprise had been executed perfectly (which based on the layout released, it was close), the shape + the direction and movement of it definitely could been interpreted as a penis being inserted into a Jayhawk mouth. I'm guessing he has veto power for things like this, but I could be wrong. If he does, missing that was a goof on Tracz's part. I won't even go as far as saying it was a "mistake", it's just a head-slapping goof where you say "doh! oh man I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THAT" and have a laugh and move on and cash your gofundme check.
HEY GUYS! IT'S A GUY THAT'S DONE REALLY WELL AT HIS JOB FOR THE PAST TWENTY YEARS BUT COACHED A BIT TOO COMPLICATED SCHEME AND THE PLAYERS COULD NOT GET IT FOR THE FIRST GAME SO I WANT TO SUSPEND OR FIRE HIM AND I'M THE RATIONAL GUY!!!!
I thought the band executed the scheme quite well. Tracz coached 'em up! :fatty:
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2015, 11:50:19 PM
Tracz coached 'em up! :fatty:
guys, this was a boner reference
Post by: chum1 on September 09, 2015, 12:04:41 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2015, 12:06:52 AM
Tracz coached 'em up! :fatty:
guys, this was a boner reference
i'm glad you explained it
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 12:31:56 AM
Yeah, I feel like it went well.Tracz coached 'em up! :fatty:
guys, this was a boner reference
i'm glad you explained it
Post by: bones129 on September 09, 2015, 12:55:42 AM
I get the impression that Tracz thinks he's a pretty big deal and that his band is also a pretty big deal. eff that. If I was his boss, I'd happily throw him under the bus, too. Good job, K-State.
I think this warrants more talk.
Post by: SdK on September 09, 2015, 01:19:14 AM
Post by: AbeFroman on September 09, 2015, 01:29:40 AM
Post by: That_Guy on September 09, 2015, 03:20:25 AM
Has anyone taken these classes?
http://jmc.ksu.edu/current/public-relations.html
I have taken and or in 6 of those classes.
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Post by: wabash909 on September 09, 2015, 07:26:30 AM
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Post by: AbeFroman on September 09, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
Post by: That_Guy on September 09, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
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Post by: eastcat on September 09, 2015, 09:35:59 AM
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2015, 09:37:20 AM
Post by: everyone shut up on September 09, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 09, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
Let's be honest here, All publicity is great publicity.
Interesting point. What if the KSU PR department is actually playing this up perfectly? By ignoring it, the story goes away. By acting like there was actually something to this whole BJayhawk thing, it keeps KSU in the headlines and mobilizes support from alums and media.
Also, people get to watch (over and over) a Jayhawk ALLEGEDLY take a giant dick in the beak. It's kind of like a win win win.
#fellategate
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 09:57:01 AM
On Yahoo now too. Lol so dumb how all this is blowing up.This is only dumb/embarrassing if you have to interact with ku meanies at the office. Otherwise it's all pure entertainment and very funny.
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Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 10:00:28 AM
Consult your own local attorney before proceeding.
Post by: joda on September 09, 2015, 10:11:38 AM
If they issue the statement, then our talking point can be that such a "classy" fanbase shouldn't need a statement and reminder, it should just be expected. If somebody does something stupid it's more ammo against the "we're so classy" people for years to come.
Post by: _33 on September 09, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
Post by: joda on September 09, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
For example, if they had come out and said that the real issue in the Jamar situation was that while he was at Dillons they had some Sunflower Showdown shirts and he was seen mimicking squishing the Jayhawk on a shirt. That may have been in keeping with good sportsmanship, so in punishment we'll pay a small fine and John Currie will be suspended from attending next year's game in Lawrence.
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 10:28:46 AM
Being completely serious, I'm really interested to see how KU and the "KU has such classy fans" fans handle the game in Lawrence. They're pretty much backed into a corner here. Either the school issues some big statement encouraging sportsmanship and class towards the visitors or a few idiots do something stupid that makes their entire fanbase look bad (maybe even both happen).
If they issue the statement, then our talking point can be that such a "classy" fanbase shouldn't need a statement and reminder, it should just be expected. If somebody does something stupid it's more ammo against the "we're so classy" people for years to come.
our fans have done the "we're so classy" thing for years as well. everyone does it. not gEing.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 09, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
Also, I know some of you are gEing, but some of you aren't. For those that aren't, can we please stop tucking in about this punishment now? We should be wishing this is how administration handled past incidents.
For example, if they had come out and said that the real issue in the Jamar situation was that while he was at Dillons they had some Sunflower Showdown shirts and he was seen mimicking squishing the Jayhawk on a shirt. That may have been in keeping with good sportsmanship, so in punishment we'll pay a small fine and John Currie will be suspended from attending next year's game in Lawrence.
i read this twice and have no idea what any of it even means. please stop posting.
Post by: eastcat on September 09, 2015, 10:49:04 AM
Post by: joda on September 09, 2015, 10:51:41 AM
Tucked in nice and tightAlso, I know some of you are gEing, but some of you aren't. For those that aren't, can we please stop tucking in about this punishment now? We should be wishing this is how administration handled past incidents.
For example, if they had come out and said that the real issue in the Jamar situation was that while he was at Dillons they had some Sunflower Showdown shirts and he was seen mimicking squishing the Jayhawk on a shirt. That may have been in keeping with good sportsmanship, so in punishment we'll pay a small fine and John Currie will be suspended from attending next year's game in Lawrence.
i read this twice and have no idea what any of it even means. please stop posting.
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Post by: EMAWmeister on September 09, 2015, 11:25:15 AM
Worried about being "classy" is such a white midwestern thing.
People who talk about class generally have the least of it.
Post by: POWL on September 09, 2015, 11:31:13 AM
Being completely serious, I'm really interested to see how KU and the "KU has such classy fans" fans handle the game in Lawrence. They're pretty much backed into a corner here. Either the school issues some big statement encouraging sportsmanship and class towards the visitors or a few idiots do something stupid that makes their entire fanbase look bad (maybe even both happen).yep......Frank took one for the team because he knows the reaction will be worse.......the phog is already talking about throwing crap at the band.......so everybody get out your smartphones and catch KU fans abusing the Big 12 sportsmanship thing and off we go with the fines/suspensions ......
If they issue the statement, then our talking point can be that such a "classy" fanbase shouldn't need a statement and reminder, it should just be expected. If somebody does something stupid it's more ammo against the "we're so classy" people for years to come.
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 11:35:58 AM
Worried about being "classy" is such a white midwestern thing.
People who talk about class generally have the least of it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: when it comes to college football, class is for pussies
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 09, 2015, 11:38:01 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on September 09, 2015, 11:43:37 AM
More discussion with Frank this morning. Reasonable response.
He also sounds genuine in saying that UPKS and ADJC have been good through this thing.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 09, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
This entire thing blows my mind.
KU, our amateurish response, our inability to play the PR game, our lack of awareness toward giving legitimacy to issues that are completely insignificant. It all blows my mind.
Reminds me of our overreaction and inability to take advantage of the viral hit that was EcoKat.
RIP EcoKat.
It basically reminds me of EVER Y time we are faced with a public relations related issue.
We literally manufacture the crisis by legitimizing the issue every single time with the amateur hour way we manage these events.
The way it's handled is you say nothing, BECAUSE NOTHING NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED OR LEGITIMIZED or you laugh it off like William Shatner this weekend immediately by saying something humorous like "I wonder if Mother Nature needs to apologize for cloud formations with these same people".
the Animal and Currie SO want to feel important. I bet they watch a ton of Scandal and think of everything in that context.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
I bet they watch a ton of Scandal and think of everything in that context.
:lol:
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 12:03:30 PM
http://1350kman.com/interview-with-ksu-band-director-frank-tracz/
I'm with chum1.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2015, 12:19:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 12:25:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
Post by: CNS on September 09, 2015, 12:33:35 PM
I think this is a state culture thing.
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2015, 12:35:58 PM
lol at apologizing to the KU band director :lol:
yeah, probably the most wtf thing
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 12:50:13 PM
Yesterday, 98.1 was talking about this. They had some quote from a state legislator from the Salina area about this. He basically denied it was anything other than the enterprise, then ended the interview with a very O'doyle-rules'esque "KU Blows!".
I think this is a state culture thing.
prob this massive emaw stud
https://twitter.com/jrclaeys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2015, 12:56:09 PM
Yesterday, 98.1 was talking about this. They had some quote from a state legislator from the Salina area about this. He basically denied it was anything other than the enterprise, then ended the interview with a very O'doyle-rules'esque "KU Blows!".
I think this is a state culture thing.
prob this massive emaw stud
https://twitter.com/jrclaeys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
#zip
Post by: MadCat on September 09, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Yesterday, 98.1 was talking about this. They had some quote from a state legislator from the Salina area about this. He basically denied it was anything other than the enterprise, then ended the interview with a very O'doyle-rules'esque "KU Blows!".
I think this is a state culture thing.
prob this massive emaw stud
https://twitter.com/jrclaeys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
That guy was in a lab class I taught. :surprised:
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 01:41:09 PM
Yesterday, 98.1 was talking about this. They had some quote from a state legislator from the Salina area about this. He basically denied it was anything other than the enterprise, then ended the interview with a very O'doyle-rules'esque "KU Blows!".
I think this is a state culture thing.
prob this massive emaw stud
https://twitter.com/jrclaeys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
That guy was in a lab class I taught. :surprised:
from your lab class to embarking on the 8th longest flight in the world, color this poster not surprised
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 09:42:22 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 10:01:21 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 10, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.
how edgy of you.
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 10:11:29 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 10:21:06 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
"Our PR wizards" didn't say that, the Big 12 Conference did.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=210325789
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: Dr. Frank Tracz
Welp. We've been doing this kind of thing for 23 years. It's just harmless fun. But I guess now we have to stop because twitter was invented.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
They actually said it better than we did:Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
"Our PR wizards" didn't say that, the Big 12 Conference did.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=210325789
Quote
inappropriate use of a member institution logo
heh
Quote
"The actions of the marching band depicting the disintegration of a member institution's mascot was inconsistent with the principles and expectations of the Big 12 Sportsmanship and Ethical Conduct Policy,"
"inappropriate use of logo" and "disintegration of mascot" = "simulated blow job" in PR speak.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 10:25:12 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
I haven't watched the video because I was at the game. Admittedly, I wasn't paying very close attention to the field, but I do remember hearing the announcer narrating that "the Enterprise is engaged in a battle with a horrible space alien" or something like that. Can you hear that in the video? If so, I don't understand how the video could be worse than the screen shot, because only a twitter troll or sexual devient would think "eh, forget what that announcer is saying, that's clearly a massive male genitals and balls."
I agree with you that these sanctions aren't really about depicting a jayhawk - which is why it's doubly stupid and cowardly that our adminsitration says that's what the sanctions are for. Tracz is right to point out that stupidity. If you're the administration and you really think the marching band made a crude sex joke with their formation, just say so. They don't even have the courage to do that. So not only was their official statement gutless - it was a lie.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
I haven't watched the video because I was at the game. Admittedly, I wasn't paying very close attention to the field, but I do remember hearing the announcer narrating that "the Enterprise is engaged in a battle with a horrible space alien" or something like that. Can you hear that in the video? If so. I don't understand how the video could be worse than the screen shot, because only a twitter troll or sexual devient would think "eh, forget what that announcer is saying, that's clearly a massive male genitals and balls."
Then shut up and watch the video
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 10:29:00 AM
I'd give him credit for trying to change the subject, but that's not even what he was doing.
Is there anyone at all, other than the dude who took that cropped photo from the press box, that was actually at the game that saw the performance who thought they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth? I didn't nor did anyone around me did.
People who did not see the halftime show seem to be convinced that they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth without regarding that their opinion may be coming from their initial exposure to the incident/controversy/whatever.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
I haven't watched the video because I was at the game. Admittedly, I wasn't paying very close attention to the field, but I do remember hearing the announcer narrating that "the Enterprise is engaged in a battle with a horrible space alien" or something like that. Can you hear that in the video? If so. I don't understand how the video could be worse than the screen shot, because only a twitter troll or sexual devient would think "eh, forget what that announcer is saying, that's clearly a massive male genitals and balls."
Then shut up and watch the video
Or just answer the question. Again, if the narration is included in the video, it's not worse than the screen shot because only a complete dumbass would ignore the narration. If the narration is omitted from the video, it's completly misleading. You're taking a surprisingly strong stand on such a stupid molehill.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 10:31:26 AM
They actually said it better than we did:Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.It doesn't seem like he understands why people took special notice to the show.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
Huh? He's right that there is absolutely nothing wrong with referencing rival mascots. It is a harmless, good-humored tradition. Not sure if you noticed, but he was sanctioned for the use of the Jayhawk - not the Enterprise.
He's also right that this controversy is "downright stupid" - ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context. What he couldn't say is that the administration's official response was also downright stupid, throwing him under the bus and only reinforcing the lunatic mob. When these trolls do their trolling, there is only one appropriate response: ridicule. Instead we apologize. :facepalm:
Let's be honest, he was sanctioned for the simulated fellatio, despite what our PR wizards said in the press release.
Also, the 30 second video was far worse than the cropped screen shot.
"Our PR wizards" didn't say that, the Big 12 Conference did.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=210325789Quoteinappropriate use of a member institution logo
hehQuote"The actions of the marching band depicting the disintegration of a member institution's mascot was inconsistent with the principles and expectations of the Big 12 Sportsmanship and Ethical Conduct Policy,"
"inappropriate use of logo" and "disintegration of mascot" = "simulated blow job" in PR speak.
Do you not know that the spaceship blew up the Jayhawk and the KU logo on a flag in the middle of the Jayhawk?
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:31:42 AM
I'd give him credit for trying to change the subject, but that's not even what he was doing.
Is there anyone at all, other than the dude who took that cropped photo from the press box, that was actually at the game that saw the performance who thought they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth? I didn't nor did anyone around me did.
People who did not see the halftime show seem to be convinced that they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth without regarding that their opinion may be coming from their initial exposure to the incident/controversy/whatever.
You yourself thought it was phallic at the game and you weren't even paying attention, because literally no one ever pays attention to our boring halftime shows.
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 10:33:33 AM
I'd give him credit for trying to change the subject, but that's not even what he was doing.
Is there anyone at all, other than the dude who took that cropped photo from the press box, that was actually at the game that saw the performance who thought they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth? I didn't nor did anyone around me did.
People who did not see the halftime show seem to be convinced that they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth without regarding that their opinion may be coming from their initial exposure to the incident/controversy/whatever.
I don't think it was intentional, but that he's still responsible for the fallout.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:33:36 AM
People who did not see the halftime show seem to be convinced that they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth without regarding that their opinion may be coming from their initial exposure to the incident/controversy/whatever.
I've acknowledged that people are primed to see it now
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
I'd give him credit for trying to change the subject, but that's not even what he was doing.
Is there anyone at all, other than the dude who took that cropped photo from the press box, that was actually at the game that saw the performance who thought they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth? I didn't nor did anyone around me did.
People who did not see the halftime show seem to be convinced that they were putting a penis in a jayhawk's mouth without regarding that their opinion may be coming from their initial exposure to the incident/controversy/whatever.
You yourself thought it was phallic at the game and you weren't even paying attention, because literally no one ever pays attention to our boring halftime shows.
Yeah, I thought the ship looked phallic. I didn't see a male genitals going into a jayhawk's mouth though. If I did I certainly would have paid closer attention, took a picture, and posted it on here and twitter.
Post by: Yard Dog on September 10, 2015, 10:40:44 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfuVkxlP.jpg&hash=03def6d84023b3d419314f772fc6addd421431b1)
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
what was wrong with what FT said in the article?
I watched the video.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 10:52:31 AM
ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context.
:gocho:
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/641981266565304320
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: nicname on September 10, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context.
:gocho:
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/641981266565304320
:ROFL:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
ginned up entirely by twitter trolls who have nothing better to do than take a screen shot (and usually a cropped screen shot at that) completely out of context.
:gocho:
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/641981266565304320
Amazing. That pervert is probably just scheming new ways to sodomize Jayhawks with band formations. We had better issue a preemptive apology because there's no telling what this monster's up to.
Post by: pissclams on September 10, 2015, 12:23:33 PM
Post by: That_Guy on September 10, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
He's not wrong about society taking everything way too rough ridin' sensitive though.
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Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
He's not wrong about society taking everything way too rough ridin' sensitive though.
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yes, says the guy who is afraid to go to a college football game because of a meanie email
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
can anyone point me to the big 12 conference band rules where inappropriate use of a member institution logo is specifically called out as inappropriate?
It's actually three different provisions. Bear with me.
Article III, Section 5, Paragraph 2:
Quote
Unsportsmanlike behavior is prohibited and shall be punishable by no less than a one-game suspension and a fine of no less than $5,000.
Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (iv):
Quote
It shall be unsportsmanlike to depict an opposing school's mascot, with a marching formation, costume, or otherwise, and simulate any act of ... (q) sodomy ... upon the mascot.
... and Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (v):
Quote
Whether an act of ... (q) sodomy ... has been depicted shall be determined at the sole discretion of the majority of Twitter, Facebook, and other social media users.
Sounds like Tracz got off with the bare minimum punishment.
Post by: That_Guy on September 10, 2015, 01:29:45 PM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
He's not wrong about society taking everything way too rough ridin' sensitive though.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
yes, says the guy who is afraid to go to a college football game because of a meanie email
what? I was pak'd and at the game. Ask the king. :dunno: :drink:
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 01:34:36 PM
Tracz should be fired, or at least banned from speaking.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article34560399.html
He's not wrong about society taking everything way too rough ridin' sensitive though.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
yes, says the guy who is afraid to go to a college football game because of a meanie email
what? I was pak'd and at the game. Ask the king. :dunno: :drink:
I think he's talking about Tracz
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
Huh. So if we depicted a sqwawk fan blowing a spaceship we would be totally good to go.can anyone point me to the big 12 conference band rules where inappropriate use of a member institution logo is specifically called out as inappropriate?
It's actually three different provisions. Bear with me.
Article III, Section 5, Paragraph 2:QuoteUnsportsmanlike behavior is prohibited and shall be punishable by no less than a one-game suspension and a fine of no less than $5,000.
Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (iv):QuoteIt shall be unsportsmanlike to depict an opposing school's mascot, with a marching formation, costume, or otherwise, and simulate any act of ... (q) sodomy ... upon the mascot.
... and Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (v):QuoteWhether an act of ... (q) sodomy ... has been depicted shall be determined at the sole discretion of the majority of Twitter, Facebook, and other social media users.
Sounds like Tracz got off with the bare minimum punishment.
Post by: pissclams on September 10, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
can anyone point me to the big 12 conference band rules where inappropriate use of a member institution logo is specifically called out as inappropriate?
It's actually three different provisions. Bear with me.
Article III, Section 5, Paragraph 2:QuoteUnsportsmanlike behavior is prohibited and shall be punishable by no less than a one-game suspension and a fine of no less than $5,000.
Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (iv):QuoteIt shall be unsportsmanlike to depict an opposing school's mascot, with a marching formation, costume, or otherwise, and simulate any act of ... (q) sodomy ... upon the mascot.
... and Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 3, Subpart (v):QuoteWhether an act of ... (q) sodomy ... has been depicted shall be determined at the sole discretion of the majority of Twitter, Facebook, and other social media users.
Sounds like Tracz got off with the bare minimum punishment.
well, looks like we were in the wrong after all
a very bob davis type of moment for our fanbase
Post by: Yard Dog on September 10, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2015, 03:26:22 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
maybe time for you to bing sodomy, yarddy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2015, 03:29:00 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
:Roll Eyes:
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 10, 2015, 03:29:27 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
oh. my. god.
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 10, 2015, 03:30:06 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
you can't actually be this stupid. can you? this has got to be an act.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2015, 03:30:25 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
oh. my. god.
lol
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2015, 03:31:01 PM
Post by: CNS on September 10, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.
maybe time for you to bing sodomy, yarddy
Bing is like Google. I can see where that may confusing given the previous confusion on something more simplistic.
Post by: MadCat on September 10, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
Have you ever been sodomized by a starship...on WEED?
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 10, 2015, 03:32:11 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on September 10, 2015, 03:43:59 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2015, 03:49:52 PM
I legitimately never knew that sodomy referred to more than just backdoor sex. My apologies to everyone.
your parents probably sent you with a note to the teacher and thats why you went to go play oregon trail on the third day of first grade of kansas public school when all the other kids learned that part of the bible.
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
"I was in front of the band on a podium and with six minutes left in the game one of the athletic assistants came down and said, 'The president and the athletic director want to see you up in the sixth floor of the press box.'"
Post by: wetwillie on September 10, 2015, 03:57:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversy
"I was in front of the band on a podium and with six minutes left in the game one of the athletic assistants came down and said, 'The president and the athletic director want to see you up in the sixth floor of the press box.'"
The animal probably hit him with the brain the second he opened the door. Or maybe the goat.
Post by: TownieCat on September 10, 2015, 04:00:23 PM
Post by: CNS on September 10, 2015, 04:07:20 PM
I legitimately never knew that sodomy referred to more than just backdoor sex. My apologies to everyone.
Abstinence only KS.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
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"The Sudler Trophy is the Heisman Trophy of the band world," Tracz said. "This is a band program that's in the middle of the country and in the middle of nowhere. We have more cattle in this state than people. ... This university is a great university, but a couple decades ago when I got here, there were 100 kids in the band and it wasn't very good. I'm not taking the credit for this because there have been a lot of people involved in this, but it's come an awfully long way. This school and this band program have been through hell to get to this point and it's a really fine band. My colleagues say so. There's a panel of esteemed band directors that voted for this and Kansas State was awarded the Sudler Trophy. It's a huge deal. In my career, it's the pinnacle of my career. I thought it was all downhill from here and I thought after this weekend it would be downhill faster. It's pretty cool, and that's being overshadowed."
Is Frank Tracz responsible for The Greatest Turnaround in College Marching Band History? I did not realize Manhattan was such a tough place to recruit elite 5* band nerds. But I guess they're just like other young men and women, always wanting the beaches, the glamour, the training facilities (and dare I say it - the money?).
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
Quote"The Sudler Trophy is the Heisman Trophy of the band world," Tracz said. "This is a band program that's in the middle of the country and in the middle of nowhere. We have more cattle in this state than people. ... This university is a great university, but a couple decades ago when I got here, there were 100 kids in the band and it wasn't very good. I'm not taking the credit for this because there have been a lot of people involved in this, but it's come an awfully long way. This school and this band program have been through hell to get to this point and it's a really fine band. My colleagues say so. There's a panel of esteemed band directors that voted for this and Kansas State was awarded the Sudler Trophy. It's a huge deal. In my career, it's the pinnacle of my career. I thought it was all downhill from here and I thought after this weekend it would be downhill faster. It's pretty cool, and that's being overshadowed."
Is Frank Tracz responsible for The Greatest Turnaround in College Marching Band History? I did not realize Manhattan was such a tough place to recruit elite 5* band nerds. But I guess they're just like other young men and women, always wanting the beaches, the glamour, the training facilities (and dare I say it - the money?).
I think it just might be. Frank is wrong about it all being downhill from here, though. This is just the tip of the enterprise.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 04:26:09 PM
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"The whole band community has rallied behind them and supported them," said Michael Barasch, the co-founder of CollegeMarching.com and former vice president of the Penn State Blue Band. "This is not something that a band like theirs would do and the band world knows that."
I had no idea it was such a tight-knit community, but I'm glad it's got our back (as opposed to say, our own backstabbing admins). There's just one question: What does the KU marching band have to say about this?
Post by: CNS on September 10, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
I also enjoyed this one.Quote"The whole band community has rallied behind them and supported them," said Michael Barasch, the co-founder of CollegeMarching.com and former vice president of the Penn State Blue Band. "This is not something that a band like theirs would do and the band world knows that."
I had no idea it was such a tight-knit community, but I'm glad it's got our back (as opposed to say, our own backstabbing admins). There's just one question: What does the KU marching band have to say about this?
Penn State
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
I also enjoyed this one.Quote"The whole band community has rallied behind them and supported them," said Michael Barasch, the co-founder of CollegeMarching.com and former vice president of the Penn State Blue Band. "This is not something that a band like theirs would do and the band world knows that."
I had no idea it was such a tight-knit community, but I'm glad it's got our back (as opposed to say, our own backstabbing admins). There's just one question: What does the KU marching band have to say about this?
Their band only has about 100 kids and they aren't very good.
Post by: CatMission on September 10, 2015, 04:33:36 PM
They are more of a large pep band than a marching band.I also enjoyed this one.Quote"The whole band community has rallied behind them and supported them," said Michael Barasch, the co-founder of CollegeMarching.com and former vice president of the Penn State Blue Band. "This is not something that a band like theirs would do and the band world knows that."
I had no idea it was such a tight-knit community, but I'm glad it's got our back (as opposed to say, our own backstabbing admins). There's just one question: What does the KU marching band have to say about this?
Their band only has about 100 kids and they aren't very good.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 10, 2015, 04:37:38 PM
Quote"The Sudler Trophy is the Heisman Trophy of the band world," Tracz said. "This is a band program that's in the middle of the country and in the middle of nowhere. We have more cattle in this state than people. ... This university is a great university, but a couple decades ago when I got here, there were 100 kids in the band and it wasn't very good. I'm not taking the credit for this because there have been a lot of people involved in this, but it's come an awfully long way. This school and this band program have been through hell to get to this point and it's a really fine band. My colleagues say so. There's a panel of esteemed band directors that voted for this and Kansas State was awarded the Sudler Trophy. It's a huge deal. In my career, it's the pinnacle of my career. I thought it was all downhill from here and I thought after this weekend it would be downhill faster. It's pretty cool, and that's being overshadowed."
Is Frank Tracz responsible for The Greatest Turnaround in College Marching Band History? I did not realize Manhattan was such a tough place to recruit elite 5* band nerds. But I guess they're just like other young men and women, always wanting the beaches, the glamour, the training facilities (and dare I say it - the money?).
the biggest factor was the football team got good, so they had more kids who wanted to be in the stadium on saturday afternoon than they did in 1991, so they have a talent pool probably 5 or 10 times bigger than it was 25 years ago
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 04:41:21 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 10, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
Do you guys think he sees how the starship enterprise could have been interpreted as a penis?
yes. i guarantee he does. and he'll never admit it.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversy
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band director Frank Tracz told ESPN.com on Thursday
What's next? Is Barbara Walters still alive?
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
Do you guys think he sees how the starship enterprise could have been interpreted as a penis?
yes. i guarantee he does. and he'll never admit it.
I guarantee he does too - but unlike complete dumbasses he views it in its proper context. Like, if I saw a fan eating a delicious, fleshy turkey leg during a game, I could certainly interpret it as a penis going into the guy's mouth. but then, I'd be a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for thinking this. after all, it's a turkey leg, not a penis.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Do you guys think he sees how the starship enterprise could have been interpreted as a penis?
yes. i guarantee he does. and he'll never admit it.
I guarantee he does too - but unlike complete dumbasses he views it in its proper context. Like, if I saw a fan eating a delicious, fleshy turkey leg during a game, I could certainly interpret it as a penis going into the guy's mouth. but then, I'd be a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for thinking this. after all, it's a turkey leg, not a penis.
he seems to be blaming "PC Culture" for the reason it exploded, which I'm not sure is the proper context
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 04:58:31 PM
Do you guys think he sees how the starship enterprise could have been interpreted as a penis?
yes. i guarantee he does. and he'll never admit it.
I guarantee he does too - but unlike complete dumbasses he views it in its proper context. Like, if I saw a fan eating a delicious, fleshy turkey leg during a game, I could certainly interpret it as a penis going into the guy's mouth. but then, I'd be a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for thinking this. after all, it's a turkey leg, not a penis.
he seems to be blaming "PC Culture" for the reason it exploded, which I'm not sure is the proper context
context
"This was just misinterpreted and it was opportunistic because they didn't see the whole show and they didn't hear the announcements talking about the alien space invader and the Enterprise. It all made sense. Everyone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good. ... There were some crooked lines, but it's the first game and these are 18-year-old kids, for God's sake, playing tubas and drums, so give us a break. It's just disturbing."
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 05:00:33 PM
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If you watched the whole show from beginning to end it's a space show and it's a space shuttle and we're disintegrating a rival from down the road, which a lot of college bands do, and it was all in good fun and that's all it was meant to be. Unfortunately in this [politically correct] world we live in right now you can't do that."
:dunno:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2015, 05:01:06 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversyQuoteband director Frank Tracz told ESPN.com on Thursday
What's next? Is Barbara Walters still alive?
Quote
"It's nuts," Tracz said.
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
Post by: sys on September 10, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
in this case, i actually did fall on to my back when i :lol:'d, @sys
it's pretty much the only logical way to rofl, despite what some people will have you to believe.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 10, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
QuoteIf you watched the whole show from beginning to end it's a space show and it's a space shuttle and we're disintegrating a rival from down the road, which a lot of college bands do, and it was all in good fun and that's all it was meant to be. Unfortunately in this [politically correct] world we live in right now you can't do that."
:dunno:
he's saying people are too easily offended, which is true
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 05:08:03 PM
QuoteIf you watched the whole show from beginning to end it's a space show and it's a space shuttle and we're disintegrating a rival from down the road, which a lot of college bands do, and it was all in good fun and that's all it was meant to be. Unfortunately in this [politically correct] world we live in right now you can't do that."
:dunno:
not really sure what point you're trying to make. you saying Tracz does not believe his enterprise routine was taken out of context?
I mean, he's certainly not saying it was a male genitals and that everybody's just too PC about. He's saying it wasn't a male genitals. that if you watched the show and heard the announcers and the space ship blowing up the space invader (CONTEXT) you wouldn't have had allusions of sodomy in mind.
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 05:11:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
I mean, he's certainly not saying it was a male genitals and that everybody's just too PC about. He's saying it wasn't a male genitals. that if you watched the show and heard the announcers and the space ship blowing up the space invader (CONTEXT) you wouldn't have had allusions of sodomy in mind.
except people did have that in mind, including super big KSU homer Real Mike T (who also probably loves to hate on people for being too PC).
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/640327493560332288
Post by: Gooch on September 10, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
Nope batwinghttp://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversy
"I was in front of the band on a podium and with six minutes left in the game one of the athletic assistants came down and said, 'The president and the athletic director want to see you up in the sixth floor of the press box.'"
The animal probably hit him with the brain the second he opened the door. Or maybe the goat.
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
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Everyone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 10, 2015, 05:16:34 PM
Nope batwinghttp://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversy
"I was in front of the band on a podium and with six minutes left in the game one of the athletic assistants came down and said, 'The president and the athletic director want to see you up in the sixth floor of the press box.'"
The animal probably hit him with the brain the second he opened the door. Or maybe the goat.
no, he was showing off his new wrist watch.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13625115/kansas-state-wildcats-band-director-frank-tracz-speaks-half-show-controversyQuoteband director Frank Tracz told ESPN.com on Thursday
What's next? Is Barbara Walters still alive?Quote
"It's nuts," Tracz said.
:surprised:
He's a monster.
Post by: SdK on September 10, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
For what it is worth, the "rules" mention sodomy. . .which is definitely not what was depicted.Ok Kim Davis
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
QuoteEveryone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
what's he supposed to say? "yeah the crowd hated it. we tried, but we weren't cool enough for school. BRING ON THE JOCK JAMS"
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 05:37:04 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
QuoteEveryone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
what's he supposed to say? "yeah the crowd hated it. we tried, but we weren't cool enough for school. BRING ON THE JOCK JAMS"
more vaguely phallic references would be welcomed
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2015, 06:12:16 PM
QuoteEveryone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
what's he supposed to say? "yeah the crowd hated it. we tried, but we weren't cool enough for school. BRING ON THE JOCK JAMS"
more vaguely phallic references would be welcomed
male genitals Jams
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 06:18:33 PM
Do you guys think he sees how the starship enterprise could have been interpreted as a penis?
yes. i guarantee he does. and he'll never admit it.
I guarantee he does too - but unlike complete dumbasses he views it in its proper context. Like, if I saw a fan eating a delicious, fleshy turkey leg during a game, I could certainly interpret it as a penis going into the guy's mouth. but then, I'd be a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for thinking this. after all, it's a turkey leg, not a penis.
he seems to be blaming "PC Culture" for the reason it exploded, which I'm not sure is the proper context
"The proper context" was the announcer clearly stating it was the Enterprise. You can't get more proper context than that. You keep ignoring this. I'm not sure why.
Post by: catastrophe on September 10, 2015, 06:25:18 PM
QuoteEveryone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
what's he supposed to say? "yeah the crowd hated it. we tried, but we weren't cool enough for school. BRING ON THE JOCK JAMS"
more vaguely phallic references would be welcomed
"Yea, maybe it could have looked a little more like the Enterprise, but you have to realize that formations like this are hard, very hard. We spent long hard hours working on it, but I guess in the end we just couldn't get it to come together."
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
QuoteEveryone in the stadium liked it and thought it was good
He's just delusional through and through.
what's he supposed to say? "yeah the crowd hated it. we tried, but we weren't cool enough for school. BRING ON THE JOCK JAMS"
more vaguely phallic references would be welcomed
"Yea, maybe it could have looked a little more like the Enterprise, but you have to realize that formations like this are hard, very hard. We spent long hard hours working on it, but I guess in the end we just couldn't get it to come together."
:love:
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 07:00:57 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on September 10, 2015, 07:08:25 PM
Post by: sys on September 10, 2015, 07:35:06 PM
#TeamTracz
i never thought i'd see a game where frank tracz and i were lined up on the same side. but then, i never thought i'd see the kstate band draw out a jayhawk blowjob either.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
I mean, he's certainly not saying it was a male genitals and that everybody's just too PC about. He's saying it wasn't a male genitals. that if you watched the show and heard the announcers and the space ship blowing up the space invader (CONTEXT) you wouldn't have had allusions of sodomy in mind.
except people did have that in mind, including super big KSU homer Real Mike T (who also probably loves to hate on people for being too PC).
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/640327493560332288
I was starting to doubt that I was on the right side of this, now I'm sure I am good. Thanks MiCat
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
Post by: Canary on September 10, 2015, 08:21:58 PM
Here's something fun to do that I just stumbled upon. If you're walking around a far-from-kansas city and see a tourist wearing a ku hat w/the jayhawk on it, pretend to be oblivious to KSU/sports entirely and point at the jayhawk and say to them "hey, the blowjob bird from that football game!"Something I'd never do, but would love to witness.
Post by: Katpappy on September 10, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
Here's something fun to do that I just stumbled upon. If you're walking around a far-from-kansas city and see a tourist wearing a ku hat w/the jayhawk on it, pretend to be oblivious to KSU/sports entirely and point at the jayhawk and say to them "hey, the blowjob bird from that football game!"This would be great if that comment stuck. Also, would be tuff for KU fans to live down.
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 08:53:02 PM
If we're doing all of this solely because we ribbed KU by depicting them as a space monster and blew them up, that's equally absurd. He could have more effectively moved on by keeping his damn mouth shut.
One of the silliest parts of all of this are the people commending UPKS on his policy of candor and being so accessible via social media, when he hasn't actually explained his reasoning or why he decided to self impose a penalty. He's been a broken record saying "it's time to move on" when he's the one who restarted this dumbass news cycle on Tuesday. A proper time to say "let's move on" would have been BEFORE he very publicly chastised the band director.
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him. I've hated him since he killed EMAW.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 08:57:45 PM
I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
If we're doing all of this solely because we ribbed KU by depicting them as a space monster and blew them up, that's equally absurd. He could have more effectively moved on by keeping his damn mouth shut.
One of the silliest parts of all of this are the people commending UPKS on his policy of candor and being so accessible via social media, when he hasn't actually explained his reasoning or why he decided to self impose a penalty. He's been a broken record saying "it's time to move on" when he's the one who restarted this dumbass news cycle on Tuesday. A proper time to say "let's move on" would have been BEFORE he very publicly chastised the band director.
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him. I've hated him since he killed EMAW.
https://twitter.com/kstate_pres/status/642142430435786752
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
Quote from: President Candor
I know you're all mad at me for a decision I made, but let's all just stop talking about it.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
Lack of oversight. It's his responsibility to make sure his award-winning marching band doesn't employ sexually ambiguous formations, and he failed.
I don't believe it was intentional, but he and/or the band definitely deserved to be punished in some way. Schulz "keeping his mouth shut" (ha!) would have made this blown away at all. Someone from either the University or the league was going to have to do something.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 09:11:35 PM
I honestly would've preferred the league do something rather than K-State. The handful of posters here are the only ones I've seen that thought Tracz did something wrong. And when we issued the punishment on ourselves, the decision was virtually universally criticized as absolute nonsense. I'd much rather have that public scorn and my own anger be directed at the league stepping in and issuing this absurd punishment than our own university.I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
Lack of oversight. It's his responsibility to make sure his award-winning marching band doesn't employ sexually ambiguous formations, and he failed.
I don't believe it was intentional, but he and/or the band definitely deserved to be punished in some way. Schulz "keeping his mouth shut" (ha!) would have made this blown away at all. Someone from either the University or the league was going to have to do something.
What would Wefald and Krause do? Probably something hilarious and maybe kind of embarrassing but in a more lol way.Wefald wouldn't have done crap besides say "listen, there was absolutely no perverse intent by our band director, and to think there was is ludicrous." I hate being on the side of "well that's just the pussification of america," but honestly, we had no reason to imply that Tracz meant for it to look like anymore than a cheesy sci-fi battle.
Don't forget, and this cannot be emphasized enough, this is the guy that thought EPAW was something that people would get behind.
Post by: bucket on September 10, 2015, 09:38:31 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 10, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
If we're doing all of this solely because we ribbed KU by depicting them as a space monster and blew them up, that's equally absurd. He could have more effectively moved on by keeping his damn mouth shut.
One of the silliest parts of all of this are the people commending UPKS on his policy of candor and being so accessible via social media, when he hasn't actually explained his reasoning or why he decided to self impose a penalty. He's been a broken record saying "it's time to move on" when he's the one who restarted this dumbass news cycle on Tuesday. A proper time to say "let's move on" would have been BEFORE he very publicly chastised the band director.
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him. I've hated him since he killed EMAW.
https://twitter.com/kstate_pres/status/642142430435786752
Did he just "BLOCK!" someone on twitter? :lol: This is just getting better and better!
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 09:46:35 PM
I honestly would've preferred the league do something rather than K-State. The handful of posters here are the only ones I've seen that thought Tracz did something wrong. And when we issued the punishment on ourselves, the decision was virtually universally criticized as absolute nonsense. I'd much rather have that public scorn and my own anger be directed at the league stepping in and issuing this absurd punishment than our own university.
You bring up a good point about preferring the league to issue the punishment. There may have been questions about why KSU did nothing and quite honestly I wouldn't have been surprised if the punishment had been more harsh, but whatever.
However, the fact that you (and most people you gather opinions from) think NOTHING was wrong with what Tracz did (or didn't do) makes me seriously question your judgement. It blew up because it looked like what people thought it looked like. This isn't something that happens to marching bands all the time, because band directors don't let it happen. The fact that we had a story (well before the punishment, which honestly is unnoticed outside of our little world) proves Tracz screwed up.
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 10, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/642161051392442373
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 09:53:21 PM
I honestly would've preferred the league do something rather than K-State. The handful of posters here are the only ones I've seen that thought Tracz did something wrong. And when we issued the punishment on ourselves, the decision was virtually universally criticized as absolute nonsense. I'd much rather have that public scorn and my own anger be directed at the league stepping in and issuing this absurd punishment than our own university.I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
Lack of oversight. It's his responsibility to make sure his award-winning marching band doesn't employ sexually ambiguous formations, and he failed.
I don't believe it was intentional, but he and/or the band definitely deserved to be punished in some way. Schulz "keeping his mouth shut" (ha!) would have made this blown away at all. Someone from either the University or the league was going to have to do something.What would Wefald and Krause do? Probably something hilarious and maybe kind of embarrassing but in a more lol way.Wefald wouldn't have done crap besides say "listen, there was absolutely no perverse intent by our band director, and to think there was is ludicrous." I hate being on the side of "well that's just the pussification of america," but honestly, we had no reason to imply that Tracz meant for it to look like anymore than a cheesy sci-fi battle.
Don't forget, and this cannot be emphasized enough, this is the guy that thought EPAW was something that people would get behind.
The league did do something, the fine and suspension came with the Big 12 reprimand. It looks like Schulz and Currie either had to do this or had to tell the conference to GFY. I don't think the university wanted to turn this band thing into college footballs version of NFL vs. Brady, maybe Wefald and Krause would have, maybe Bosco would have who knows but these guys aren't going to rock the boat.
Post by: joda on September 10, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
I honestly would've preferred the league do something rather than K-State. The handful of posters here are the only ones I've seen that thought Tracz did something wrong. And when we issued the punishment on ourselves, the decision was virtually universally criticized as absolute nonsense. I'd much rather have that public scorn and my own anger be directed at the league stepping in and issuing this absurd punishment than our own university.I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
Lack of oversight. It's his responsibility to make sure his award-winning marching band doesn't employ sexually ambiguous formations, and he failed.
I don't believe it was intentional, but he and/or the band definitely deserved to be punished in some way. Schulz "keeping his mouth shut" (ha!) would have made this blown away at all. Someone from either the University or the league was going to have to do something.What would Wefald and Krause do? Probably something hilarious and maybe kind of embarrassing but in a more lol way.Wefald wouldn't have done crap besides say "listen, there was absolutely no perverse intent by our band director, and to think there was is ludicrous." I hate being on the side of "well that's just the pussification of america," but honestly, we had no reason to imply that Tracz meant for it to look like anymore than a cheesy sci-fi battle.
Don't forget, and this cannot be emphasized enough, this is the guy that thought EPAW was something that people would get behind.
The league did do something, the fine and suspension came with the Big 12 reprimand. It looks like Schulz and Currie either had to do this or had to tell the conference to GFY. I don't think the university wanted to turn this band thing into college footballs version of NFL vs. Brady, maybe Wefald and Krause would have, maybe Bosco would have who knows but these guys aren't going to rock the boat.
This.
If Schultz/Currie do nothing or try to blow it off, this stretches on for months and gets as brutally annoying as deflategate, if not more so. From the way things have played out since, I believe even more that Schultz's plan in issuing the "punishment" he did was to simply get it over and done with. He knew they had the next phase of stadium renovations ready to be announced and by self-sanctioning we can move on to that and hopefully we don't have to hear about this again until the media starts to drum it up again before the KU game.
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 10:14:21 PM
The league did do something, the fine and suspension came with the Big 12 reprimand. It looks like Schulz and Currie either had to do this or had to tell the conference to GFY. I don't think the university wanted to turn this band thing into college footballs version of NFL vs. Brady, maybe Wefald and Krause would have, maybe Bosco would have who knows but these guys aren't going to rock the boat.We didn't have to make it NFL v. Brady.
We could have accepted any punishment by the league and maintained that there was no obscene intent and emphasized that any phallic depiction was purely coincidental, which anyone with a modicum of common sense would agree. The narrative would've been "ha ha ha, it looks like a dick, but good grief, Big 12, give the guy a break, he obviously wouldn't have meant to do that."
Instead, K-State threw Tracz under the bus and insulted the man who has worked for the university for two decades by making him run halftime shows by some dumbass SGA committee. And this is all especially rich coming from Schulz, who takes every opportunity to poke fun at KU on his very own twitter account.
Not to mention, all Schulz and Currie do is rock the boat. They did it with EMAW, they did it with Jamar, they did it with Leti. If they weren't so concerned with doing everything they could to ensure that K-State took the high road at every juncture, K-State wouldn't look like dumbasses as often as we do.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:21:01 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
Tracz isn't an innocent child getting "thrown under the bus" or "insulted". He had a serious goof and was reprimanded with a slap on the wrist.He made an honest mistake and his employer of 20 years publicly shamed him and, moving forward, is publicly subjecting him to a group of SGA dorks giving him their expert stamp of marching band approval. He deserves better.
I doubt when Frank Martin was screaming eff at the top of his lungs loud enough for the entire arena to hear you called it "a serious goof" on Martin's part worthy of a similar reaction by Schulz and Currie. I'm sure a mandate that a student ethics committee sit in on all of Frank's practices would've gone over well.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:35:37 PM
Tracz isn't an innocent child getting "thrown under the bus" or "insulted". He had a serious goof and was reprimanded with a slap on the wrist.He made an honest mistake and his employer of 20 years publicly shamed him and, moving forward, is publicly subjecting him to a group of SGA dorks giving him their expert stamp of marching band approval. He deserves better.
Despite your excessively dramatic tone, it's a slap on the wrist. Plus he could have used an extra set of eyes for this last one.
I doubt when Frank Martin was screaming eff loud enough for the entire arena to hear you would called it "a serious goof" worthy of a similar reaction by Schulz and Currie.
Coaches yell "eff" all the time, so it's a poor analogy. Something like the Merriewether slapping incident probably deserved a suspension, though. (Frank also knew he mumped up and apologized immediately).
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
Like I said, we disagree on this. I think this is another chapter in a voluminous series of Schulz and Currie looking like complete boobs. You think their response was appropriate. I'll admit that I may be more pissed about this than I otherwise would be due to Currie and Schulz doing dumb crap on a seasonal basis.
Post by: joda on September 10, 2015, 10:48:37 PM
And everyone that has actually interacted with him keeps saying he's a great guy who does so much for the band members. If that's really the case then he really should have no problem with these sanctions as the band itself receives basically no punishment and they almost assuredly would have if the Big 12 would have actually issued the sanctions.
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 10, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
I had just forgot about EPAW!!! :shakesfist:They said it during the game in some ad for some vet... every pet a wildcat.
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:53:06 PM
I know it may not sound like a big deal to you, but calling this a slap on the wrist implies that this is not a relatively harsh penalty for band directors.
It was a relatively unprecedented screw-up, was it not? I mean, for band screw-ups, this must have been as it gets, no? (*hazing excluded)
And as Joda alluded to, I don't think he's ever intended to do anything wrong, and nothing he will or would have planned to do will be censored by this "committee of SGA dorks"
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 10, 2015, 10:55:07 PM
Here's something fun to do that I just stumbled upon. If you're walking around a far-from-kansas city and see a tourist wearing a ku hat w/the jayhawk on it, pretend to be oblivious to KSU/sports entirely and point at the jayhawk and say to them "hey, the blowjob bird from that football game!"
man oh man if i ever get the opportunity...
"oh wow. isn't that the bird from that dick sucking video i saw on facebook last year. haha oh man can i get a picture with you and that shirt?"
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2015, 11:00:49 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 11:07:06 PM
:lol:Here's something fun to do that I just stumbled upon. If you're walking around a far-from-kansas city and see a tourist wearing a ku hat w/the jayhawk on it, pretend to be oblivious to KSU/sports entirely and point at the jayhawk and say to them "hey, the blowjob bird from that football game!"
man oh man if i ever get the opportunity...
"oh wow. isn't that the bird from that dick sucking video i saw on facebook last year. haha oh man can i get a picture with you and that shirt?"
I doubt it's unprecedented for some people to think that a band's formation looks like something other than the band director intended. It's unfortunate, but completely coincidental, that this one appeared to some to look like a boner.I know it may not sound like a big deal to you, but calling this a slap on the wrist implies that this is not a relatively harsh penalty for band directors.
It was a relatively unprecedented screw-up, was it not? I mean, for band screw-ups, this must have been as it gets, no? (*hazing excluded)
But I think you're right that punishing a band director for an honest mistake is relatively unprecedented. I'm certainly no expert on what is or isn't a harsh punishment when it comes to punishing band directors.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 10, 2015, 11:07:31 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 11:09:46 PM
I doubt it's unprecedented for some people to think that a band's formation looks like something other than the band director intended. It's unfortunate, but completely coincidental, that this one appeared to some to look like a boner.
Yeah but I mean this one REALLY LOOKED LIKE A BONER HEADING TOWARD A MOUTH. It ended up on Fallon, for goodness sake!
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 11:11:55 PM
I still don't think it looked all that much like a boner. :zip:I doubt it's unprecedented for some people to think that a band's formation looks like something other than the band director intended. It's unfortunate, but completely coincidental, that this one appeared to some to look like a boner.
Yeah but I mean this one REALLY LOOKED LIKE A BONER HEADING TOWARD A MOUTH. It ended up on Fallon, for goodness sake!
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 11:13:13 PM
the thing is that you just know there is going to be some kind of overeager dogooder with too much time on their hands thinking that it's their job to actually review what he's doing. like somebody is going to be like "ok, ok. now dr tracz, can you walk me through exactly what's happening in the 2 minute twelve second mark. it looks like you have the tubas walking a line through the flutes. what if, now bear with me here, but what if we had the flutes walk through the tubas instead?"I am hoping that for every show they act like they are going to do something intentionally lewd and change into something innocent at the last minute. So the crowd could be like "uh oh. What are they doing. Oh no. No! omg! *Phew* it's just a teddy bear"
If there's anyway to incorporate the "inappropriate use of a member" line into every routine, that would be great.
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 11:15:53 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 11:16:06 PM
I still don't think it looked all that much like a boner. :zip:I doubt it's unprecedented for some people to think that a band's formation looks like something other than the band director intended. It's unfortunate, but completely coincidental, that this one appeared to some to look like a boner.
Yeah but I mean this one REALLY LOOKED LIKE A BONER HEADING TOWARD A MOUTH. It ended up on Fallon, for goodness sake!
Yeah, but it kind of looked like one and it was definitely rising/heading for a jayhawk mouth that was definitely opening for it and apparently in today's PC culture where everyone takes things too seriously that's enough to make it onto a comedy show.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 10, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 10, 2015, 11:31:19 PM
The guy def won't take a picture with you, based on the small sample size I've seen.if he doesn't, insist that he watch as you pull it up on your phone.
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2015, 11:40:14 PM
The guy def won't take a picture with you, based on the small sample size I've seen.if he doesn't, insist that he watch as you pull it up on your phone.
I kept it moving, just caught the glimpse of him trying to grasp that such a thing had really been said to him thousands of miles from home.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 12:02:33 AM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2015, 12:26:11 AM
The league did do something, the fine and suspension came with the Big 12 reprimand. It looks like Schulz and Currie either had to do this or had to tell the conference to GFY. I don't think the university wanted to turn this band thing into college footballs version of NFL vs. Brady, maybe Wefald and Krause would have, maybe Bosco would have who knows but these guys aren't going to rock the boat.We didn't have to make it NFL v. Brady.
We could have accepted any punishment by the league and maintained that there was no obscene intent and emphasized that any phallic depiction was purely coincidental, which anyone with a modicum of common sense would agree. The narrative would've been "ha ha ha, it looks like a dick, but good grief, Big 12, give the guy a break, he obviously wouldn't have meant to do that."
Instead, K-State threw Tracz under the bus and insulted the man who has worked for the university for two decades by making him run halftime shows by some dumbass SGA committee. And this is all especially rich coming from Schulz, who takes every opportunity to poke fun at KU on his very own twitter account.
Not to mention, all Schulz and Currie do is rock the boat. They did it with EMAW, they did it with Jamar, they did it with Leti. If they weren't so concerned with doing everything they could to ensure that K-State took the high road at every juncture, K-State wouldn't look like dumbasses as often as we do.
I haven't read all of the posts after this one so it may have been addressed by now but your indignation seems to be misplaced. The conference did not slap K-State, and have no doubts it was K-State as a whole not just the band, because of any perceived phallic symbol, they made that clear in their release that has been posted more than once. They got in trouble for having the kayhawk on the field and KU's flag and blowing them up. Why in the world would Schulz and Currie even mention the issue of defending the band against something that the conference didn't mention. Why would they acknowledge the crybaby ass victimized KU fans?
Post by: sys on September 11, 2015, 12:28:49 AM
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him.
you are right.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2015, 12:36:13 AM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Didn't someone itt say that Tracz was good with Currie and Schulz and that he thinks they are treating him fine? I know that it doesn't make for good message boarding but it seems like the real "bad guy" in this case is Bob Bowlsby. I also wonder what his role in having to deal with the Stanford band for all of those years plays in this chance to stick it to a band dork.
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him.
you are right.
This is also true, these things are not mutually exclusive
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 11, 2015, 08:43:20 AM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Again (and again, and again...) you formed an opinion based on watching a video clip out of context, so the marching band is in the wrong?! Ok bub. You're entitled to your opinion, as misguided as it may be. Fortunately, it appears that the vast majority of people (aside from butthurt KU fans and professional victim twitter trolls) disagree with you. You're not in good company.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 08:46:28 AM
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Again (and again, and again...) you formed an opinion based on watching a video clip out of context, so the marching band is in the wrong?! Ok bub. You're entitled to your opinion, as misguided as it may be. Fortunately, it appears that the vast majority of people (aside from butthurt KU fans and professional victim twitter trolls) disagree with you. You're not in good company.
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2015, 08:47:04 AM
Post by: TownieCat on September 11, 2015, 08:49:59 AM
Dr. Tracz got over 11k for his band over this and he doesn't have to go to Lawrence, i'd say he's the real winner hereYup, that's the quickest and most successful scholarship fundraiser they've ever had and he gets to enjoy Thanksgiving break at home. He's definitely not the victim some make him out to be.
Post by: mods? on September 11, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
Here's something fun to do that I just stumbled upon. If you're walking around a far-from-kansas city and see a tourist wearing a ku hat w/the jayhawk on it, pretend to be oblivious to KSU/sports entirely and point at the jayhawk and say to them "hey, the blowjob bird from that football game!"
Hello Friend! I will perform this trick!
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 11, 2015, 08:55:51 AM
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
And Tracz' attitude is that he shouldn't have to apologize for something that he didn't do/intend to do. If one misinterpreted it, than that's their problem, not his.
I'm fine with this.
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 09:05:08 AM
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
And Tracz' attitude is that he shouldn't have to apologize for something that he didn't do/intend to do. If one misinterpreted it, than that's their problem, not his.
I get that to an extent. But he is now best known for accidentally having his band form a blow job formation and being laughed at on a national scale. At that point, it's unfortunately his problem, not the millions of people who immaturely giggled and shared it on facebook.
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2015, 09:06:18 AM
Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on by releasing BSFS renderings way earlier than they were otherwise going to.
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2015, 09:07:31 AM
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
And Tracz' attitude is that he shouldn't have to apologize for something that he didn't do/intend to do. If one misinterpreted it, than that's their problem, not his.
I get that to an extent. But he is now best known for accidentally having his band form a blow job formation and being laughed at on a national scale. At that point, it's unfortunately his problem, not the millions of people who immaturely giggled and shared it on facebook.
i don't think the nation is laughing at tracz. if anything, they're laughing at a jayhawk sucking an enterprise. other than that, no one cares.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
You're correct.
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
And Tracz' attitude is that he shouldn't have to apologize for something that he didn't do/intend to do. If one misinterpreted it, than that's their problem, not his.
I get that to an extent. But he is now best known for accidentally having his band form a blow job formation and being laughed at on a national scale. At that point, it's unfortunately his problem, not the millions of people who immaturely giggled and shared it on facebook.
i don't think the nation is laughing at tracz. if anything, they're laughing at a jayhawk sucking an enterprise. other than that, no one cares.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 11, 2015, 09:15:41 AM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Again (and again, and again...) you formed an opinion based on watching a video clip out of context, so the marching band is in the wrong?! Ok bub. You're entitled to your opinion, as misguided as it may be. Fortunately, it appears that the vast majority of people (aside from butthurt KU fans and professional victim twitter trolls) disagree with you. You're not in good company.
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
So it's (a) clear from the video that they were trying to do the Enterprise, but (b) it's the fault of the band director that it was misinterpreted anyway? You're still not making any sense.
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2015, 09:16:56 AM
Post by: nicname on September 11, 2015, 09:18:53 AM
It don't get it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 11, 2015, 09:20:10 AM
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Post by: CatMission on September 11, 2015, 09:30:30 AM
Agreed, my only apology to someone offended by this is "I'm sorry you live such an empty, unfulfilled life that you went out of your way to be offended by this."but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
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Post by: TownieCat on September 11, 2015, 09:37:55 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 09:40:02 AM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Again (and again, and again...) you formed an opinion based on watching a video clip out of context, so the marching band is in the wrong?! Ok bub. You're entitled to your opinion, as misguided as it may be. Fortunately, it appears that the vast majority of people (aside from butthurt KU fans and professional victim twitter trolls) disagree with you. You're not in good company.
I know they were trying to do the enterprise. It's clear (from the audio) that it's what they were trying to do. The fact that it was misinterpreted in the way it was is absolutely the fault of the band director, whether or not it was intentional (which I don't believe it was).
So it's (a) clear from the video that they were trying to do the Enterprise, but (b) it's the fault of the band director that it was misinterpreted anyway? You're still not making any sense.
It's his job to make sure his band CAN'T be interpreted to be inserting penises into rivals' (or anyone else's) mouths. Leaving that room for interpretation is absolutely the band director's fault.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 11, 2015, 09:40:35 AM
People who think tracz should be suspended and/or did anything wrong are a strange mixture of huge dork tendencies and closet perversion.
It don't get it.
it makes for edgy message boarding to say tracz should be fired, thats all.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 09:42:42 AM
People who think tracz should be suspended and/or did anything wrong are a strange mixture of huge dork tendencies and closet perversion.
It don't get it.
I thought it was a hilarious accident but also recognize it would likely piss people off and warrant a suspension. It isn't a strange position if you aren't a huge homer.
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2015, 09:44:42 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 11, 2015, 09:45:18 AM
It's his job to make sure his band CAN'T be interpreted to be inserting penises into rivals' (or anyone else's) mouths. Leaving that room for interpretation is absolutely the band director's fault.
I don't think this is part of his job.
Post by: Trim on September 11, 2015, 09:50:57 AM
People who think tracz should be suspended and/or did anything wrong are a strange mixture of huge dork tendencies and closet perversion.
It don't get it.
it makes for edgy message boarding to say tracz should be fired, thats all.
He should be fired or banned from speaking as punishment for his media tour performance this week. He won't be, because he couldn't have conducted himself in a more Schulz/Currie-y way.
They should be fired too.
I actually lean slightly towards more accidental on-field blow jobs, fwiw.
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2015, 09:51:20 AM
It's his job to make sure his band CAN'T be interpreted to be inserting penises into rivals' (or anyone else's) mouths. Leaving that room for interpretation is absolutely the band director's fault.
I don't think this is part of his job.
Are you serious? It is absolutely part of his job.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2015, 09:53:20 AM
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2015, 09:54:39 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 11, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
I chalk up EMAW to EPAW as PC
Post by: Canary on September 11, 2015, 10:00:57 AM
seriously, not one lol about my pecker to the pecker comment on the last page? trim? someone?I found it 'smile out loud' funny
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 11, 2015, 10:06:40 AM
"I want to make a heartfelt apology for whatever it is I end up accidentally saying during the forthcoming ?#?JurassicWorld? press tour. I hope you understand it was never my intention to offend anyone and I am truly sorry. I swear. I'm the nicest guy in the world. And I fully regret what I (accidentally will have) said in (the upcoming foreign and domestic) interview(s). I am not in the business of making excuses. I am just dumb. Plain and simple. I try. I REALLY try! When I do (potentially) commit the offensive act for which I am now (pre) apologizing you must understand I (will likely have been) tired and exhausted when I (potentially) said that thing I (will have had) said that (will have had) crossed the line. Those rooms can get stuffy and the hardworking crews putting these junkets together need some entertainment! (Likely) that is who I was trying to crack up when I (will have had) made that tasteless and unprofessional comment. Trust me. I know you can't say that anymore. In fact in my opinion it was never right to say the thing I definitely don't want to but probably will have said. To those I (will have) offended please understand how truly sorry I already am. I am fully aware that the subject matter of my imminent forthcoming mistake, a blunder (possibly to be) dubbed "JurassicGate" is (most likely) in no way a laughing matter. To those I (will likely have had) offended rest assured I will do everything in my power to make sure this doesn't happen (again)."
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2015, 10:07:11 AM
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
I chalk up EMAW to EPAW as PC
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Post by: nicname on September 11, 2015, 10:11:57 AM
People who think tracz should be suspended and/or did anything wrong are a strange mixture of huge dork tendencies and closet perversion.
It don't get it.
I thought it was a hilarious accident but also recognize it would likely piss people off and warrant a suspension. It isn't a strange position if you aren't a huge homer.
Not really. Barbradying the situation would have been a fitting response, imo.
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 11, 2015, 10:17:11 AM
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
"Political correctness" - defined as (adjectivally, politically correct, commonly abbreviated to PC) is an ordinarily pejorative term used to criticize language, actions, or policies seen as being excessively calculated not to offend or disadvantage any particular group of people in society."
This is the essence of what Currie/Schulz did by pre-emptively apologizing for Tracz. policy excessively calculated not to offend the particular group of twitter users who felt the Pride sodomized a JHawk.
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2015, 10:35:04 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 11, 2015, 10:52:34 AM
It's his job to make sure his band CAN'T be interpreted to be inserting penises into rivals' (or anyone else's) mouths. Leaving that room for interpretation is absolutely the band director's fault.
I don't think this is part of his job.
Are you serious? It is absolutely part of his job.
He probably just missed the part in his job description where it talked about "must carefully review every frame of every formation to make sure it could not possibly be construed as a giant male genitals and balls by any dumbass - NOTE: narrating what the formation actually is during the half-time show will NOT be sufficient. Because Twitter and stuff." It was probably in pretty small font.
Post by: sys on September 11, 2015, 01:08:55 PM
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
it just depends. the person that is doesn't like it because now little johnny knows what a dot diagram of an erect penis looks like isn't being pc. but the person that thinks it's not funny because the jayhawk was being mouth raped is.
they share the common trait of being dumbasses.
Post by: dmartin on September 11, 2015, 01:22:10 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 11, 2015, 02:09:02 PM
What we forget is that the jayhawk is also a symbol of Kansas (the state). Perhaps the barb wasn't at KU, but at the Brownback led state goverment, and his attitude of educational spending.
Brownback would have handled the PR better...
Post by: EMAWzified on September 11, 2015, 04:13:31 PM
(https://www.cardcow.com/images/set79/card00418_fr.jpg)
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on September 11, 2015, 07:46:58 PM
I...still don't know why we punished ourselves. Do people honestly think tracz meant to do a blowjob thing? If it was unintentional, then what the hell did we do wrong?
If we're doing all of this solely because we ribbed KU by depicting them as a space monster and blew them up, that's equally absurd. He could have more effectively moved on by keeping his damn mouth shut.
One of the silliest parts of all of this are the people commending UPKS on his policy of candor and being so accessible via social media, when he hasn't actually explained his reasoning or why he decided to self impose a penalty. He's been a broken record saying "it's time to move on" when he's the one who restarted this dumbass news cycle on Tuesday. A proper time to say "let's move on" would have been BEFORE he very publicly chastised the band director.
The Animal is a complete dipshit and I hate him. I've hated him since he killed EMAW.
https://twitter.com/kstate_pres/status/642142430435786752
Its really beyond inappropriate for our president to feel the need to publicize his twitter blocks. Grow up
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on September 11, 2015, 07:51:07 PM
also if the shoe was on the other foot vis a vis rusty/tracz and michigancat was the guy who had spent twenty years at an institution perfecting his craft and working his ass off and had just won a national award and then had something minor blow up like this he would have a much, much different opinion on what went down. so that is where his logic his faulty.
Of course I would, we're all affected by our environment. I get why folks who had Tracz in band or recognize him and his family as valuable members of the Manhattan community would be more sympathetic. But seriously when this got sent to me and I watched the video my first reaction was "someone has to be suspended for this, right?" I did not take into consideration how hard the person who let this happen had worked.
Someone being suspended was my first thought as well. It is clearly a dick, the public has spoken. You can't be the guy in charge of the band that put the dick in the mouth of your rival and then expect no punishment. His mutiple interviews since the incident blaming everyone but himself hasn't done him any favors.
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on September 11, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
seriously, not one lol about my pecker to the pecker comment on the last page? trim? someone?
It was absolutely great. You were right to seek validation.
Post by: The Big Train on September 21, 2015, 08:54:35 PM
but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
oh man now you have to watch the season premiere of south park MIR
Post by: ednksu on September 21, 2015, 10:56:57 PM
pretty good episode but I'm worried Trey and Matt might be losing their edge, hopefully they are building to a full PC takedown in a couple episodes.but yeah, it seems very possible that Currie/Shulz sided with Tracz, but just figured that a publicly apology and slap on the wrist was the path of least resistance. Placate the PC police, defuse the situation, move on.
There is no placating of the PC police. They need to be ridiculed. Apologizing only makes them more obnoxious and makes it look like we actually did something wrong, which we didn't. As Rusty says, "it's clear."
Ugh, there is nothing more annoying than the misapplication than the term political correctness or PC. Anytime someone, but if we're being real were really talking conservative minded people, faces disagreement they chalk it up to PC. This isn't about political correctness, it's about a dillusional, thin-skinned fan base getting faux outraged. STOP SAYING PC :curse:
oh man now you have to watch the season premiere of south park MIR
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 11, 2016, 11:50:23 AM
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According to Waters, the band increasingly had to compete with other elements of the Fan Experience, the blaring pop music and sponsor interests he believes are submerging modern college football. "The band is just used as a marketing tool, now, for the university," he says. "They treat it like a mechanical thing where you push 'play,' and out marches the band, it does Script Ohio, and it goes away." At the groups Skull Sessions, massively popular public performances held two hours before home kickoffs, front-row seats formerly held for parents were turned into reserved seating for the guests of IMG, Ohio State's marketing contractor. During timeouts at the actual games, an athletics department representative with a radio connection to the AV booth would cut off the band so songs like Pitbull's "Timber" could play over the loudspeakers. "I felt there is an identity crisis at Ohio State as well as at other universities," Waters says. "The crisis is this: are we going to have a collegiate sports atmosphere or are we a pro sports atmosphere?"
http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/sex-scandal-and-the-marching-band-inside-the-new-rules-at-ohio-state-20160107#ixzz3wxWZh5be
(http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/sex-scandal-and-the-marching-band-inside-the-new-rules-at-ohio-state-20160107#ixzz3wxWZh5be)
I like that paragraph a lot. One of the cultural things that I can not stand is the jock jams stadium music, that makes every stadium atmosphere the same. College sports should be about regionality and the uniqueness of a school and alumni base. The pumping of crappy stadium music takes that away. Turn off the loud speakers and let the band and the fans control the atmosphere in the stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2016, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 11, 2016, 12:01:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2016, 12:34:17 PM
QuoteAccording to Waters, the band increasingly had to compete with other elements of the Fan Experience, the blaring pop music and sponsor interests he believes are submerging modern college football. "The band is just used as a marketing tool, now, for the university," he says. "They treat it like a mechanical thing where you push 'play,' and out marches the band, it does Script Ohio, and it goes away." At the groups Skull Sessions, massively popular public performances held two hours before home kickoffs, front-row seats formerly held for parents were turned into reserved seating for the guests of IMG, Ohio State's marketing contractor. During timeouts at the actual games, an athletics department representative with a radio connection to the AV booth would cut off the band so songs like Pitbull's "Timber" could play over the loudspeakers. "I felt there is an identity crisis at Ohio State as well as at other universities," Waters says. "The crisis is this: are we going to have a collegiate sports atmosphere or are we a pro sports atmosphere?"
http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/sex-scandal-and-the-marching-band-inside-the-new-rules-at-ohio-state-20160107#ixzz3wxWZh5be
(http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/sex-scandal-and-the-marching-band-inside-the-new-rules-at-ohio-state-20160107#ixzz3wxWZh5be)
I like that paragraph a lot. One of the cultural things that I can not stand is the jock jams stadium music, that makes every stadium atmosphere the same. College sports should be about regionality and the uniqueness of a school and alumni base. The pumping of crappy stadium music takes that away. Turn off the loud speakers and let the band and the fans control the atmosphere in the stadium
hey there Waters, of course you're a marketing tool. get over yourself.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2016, 01:03:31 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 11, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
#firetracz
Post by: Yard Dog on July 01, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
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Post by: MadCat on July 01, 2016, 09:19:03 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on August 31, 2016, 09:13:09 AM
https://twitter.com/lsjumb/status/770742146823442432
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 31, 2016, 02:22:25 PM
Note looks fake.
Not purple ink. Not written diagonally.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 31, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
Possibly written by our band director. :dunno:Note looks fake.
Not purple ink. Not written diagonally.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2016, 10:19:40 AM
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/774262922541281281
Post by: chum1 on September 09, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
Post by: EMAWforever on September 09, 2016, 12:17:22 PM
Oh no.his staff is on crack? Wouldn't have guessed Currie to promote such a thing.
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/774262922541281281
Post by: kslim on September 09, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
Oh no.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F11%2Freverse.gif&hash=e2a78f4c692316ae07466befe7e01f8edd273e36)
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/774262922541281281
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 09, 2016, 03:20:09 PM
Post by: MadCat on September 09, 2016, 03:30:10 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
What manner of creature is on the receiving end of that formation?
A mouf.
Post by: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:54:21 PM
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Post by: BostonPancake on September 10, 2016, 03:39:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2016, 10:22:57 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 28, 2016, 10:29:25 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2016, 11:59:28 AM
Post by: POWL on November 29, 2016, 12:20:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 29, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
Post by: POWL on November 29, 2016, 12:55:33 PM
Nothing greater than band geeks with a sense of superiority
prolly true,but all the non-band geeks in the stadium could see (and hear) the difference...........
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2016, 12:59:12 PM
dork is the KU band.......it was embarrassing watching them......can't imagine how those kids felt watching the KSUMB perform
I too, have spent a lot of time thinking about this. Very hard to fathom.
Post by: BMWWcat on November 29, 2016, 03:13:49 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on November 29, 2016, 03:27:32 PM
What a dork(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
Post by: DQ12 on November 29, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Nothing greater than band geeks with a sense of superiority
prolly true,but all the non-band geeks in the stadium could see (and hear) the difference...........
What I could hear is that their band was allowed to play during the ad reads and promos so we had to listen to them twice as much. Our halftime show kicked the hell out of theirs though.
That being said wearing that shirt is the pinnacle of dorkiness.
Post by: schreds21 on November 29, 2016, 03:51:26 PM
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
Post by: meow meow on November 29, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
Nothing greater than band geeks with a sense of superiority
prolly true,but all the non-band geeks in the stadium could see (and hear) the difference...........
What I could hear is that their band was allowed to play during the ad reads and promos so we had to listen to them twice as much. Our halftime show kicked the hell out of theirs though.
That being said wearing that shirt is the pinnacle of dorkiness.
get a load of this guy
Post by: hatingfrancisco on November 30, 2016, 11:31:09 AM
For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
It's a fantastic gif tho
Post by: schreds21 on November 30, 2016, 09:21:08 PM
I don't think that's a real musical instrument. Are you sure that's not a French horn in that gif?For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
Post by: cfbandyman on November 30, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder20/250x250/58225020.jpg)
But I do like the band a lot. They have a lot of fun, make a lot of music, and yell when we're on defense all the time and often make the rest of the students look pretty pathetic in terms of EMAW spirit.
Besides, they practice a lot and have to get their on gamedays like 6 hours before it even begins, and don't get to binge or anything. It might make em geeky but it still makes college football what it is and I'll never not want it.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 30, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
https://twitter.com/KStatePride/status/802602562910294016
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 02, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
It's a fantastic gif tho
From a fantastic Johnny Depp/Leo DiCaprio flick.
Post by: MadCat on December 02, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
It's a fantastic gif tho
From a fantastic Johnny Depp/Leo DiCaprio flick.
[Insert grape joke here]
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 02, 2016, 02:24:12 PM
For the 100th time. No. It was a marching baritone you heartless assholes and I played the crap out of that thing.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53a04d80e4b07b2ee71c677c/53af35f5e4b07a4f0117f226/53af3656e4b0be242affa465/1403992257496/Underrated_Uses_for_the_Middle_Finger-Trumpet-Middle-Finger.gif?format=750w)
ISN'T THAT A FRENCH HORN?!!!! :excited:
It's a fantastic gif tho
From a fantastic Johnny Depp/Leo DiCaprio flick.
[Insert grape joke here]
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/nC0NNg64GsTyE/200.gif#31)
Post by: renocat on October 03, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
Band quit playing Wabash at beginning of the game when students started yelling to do unnatural acts to a dotard dodo bird. The sudden stoppage of the music led towards premature failure of this tawdry incident. Good.
Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2017, 11:23:29 AM
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Post by: Trogdor on October 03, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
Really need to kick the whole student section out. Not like it would make much of a difference since they're practically gone by halftime anyway.
Post by: HamBoned on October 03, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
The band stopped due to the chant. That was the plan from before pregame.
Really need to kick the whole student section out. Not like it would make much of a difference since they're practically gone by halftime anyway.
:cyclist: "Kick all the damn students out!"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2017, 07:08:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2017, 07:24:30 PM
http://www.sousafoundation.net/Default.aspx?ID=39
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All publicity distributed by the Sousa Foundation will stress that the award has been given for long time contributions of that school and its directors. This is in keeping with the purpose of the award, which is to publicly recognize outstanding achievements by a collegiate marching band over a period of years. This is NOT a contest to select the BEST college band in any given year.
It also appears as if you aren't allowed to win more than once.
2017 - Iowa State University
2015 - Kansas State University
2013 - University of Florida
2011- University of Notre Dame
2009 - Western Carolina University
2007 – Indiana University
2006 – University of Arkansas
2005 – Penn State University
2004 – Auburn University
2003 – University of Alabama
2002 – Louisiana State University
2001 – Texas A&M University
2000 – University of Georgia
1999 – Texas Tech University
1998 – University of Massachusetts
1997 – West Virginia University
1996 – University of Nebraska
1995 – Purdue University
1994 – James Madison University
1993 – Univ. of California Los Angeles
1992 – Northwestern University
1991 – Arizona State University
1990 – University of Iowa
1989 – University of Kansas
1988 – Michigan State University
1987 – University of Oklahoma
1986 – University of Texas at Austin
1985 – Florida A&M University
1984 – Ohio State University
1983 – University of Illinois
1982 – University of Michigan
Post by: hjfklmor on October 03, 2017, 07:28:33 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on October 03, 2017, 08:22:06 PM
Complete change of subject but since the start of this thread was about the Sudler Trophy, I want to talk about how I recently discovered that how Dr. Tracz framed the Sudler Trophy was a damn lie, it isn't anything close to anything having to do with having the best band.
http://www.sousafoundation.net/Default.aspx?ID=39QuoteAll publicity distributed by the Sousa Foundation will stress that the award has been given for long time contributions of that school and its directors. This is in keeping with the purpose of the award, which is to publicly recognize outstanding achievements by a collegiate marching band over a period of years. This is NOT a contest to select the BEST college band in any given year.
It also appears as if you aren't allowed to win more than once.
2017 - Iowa State University
2015 - Kansas State University
2013 - University of Florida
2011- University of Notre Dame
2009 - Western Carolina University
2007 – Indiana University
2006 – University of Arkansas
2005 – Penn State University
2004 – Auburn University
2003 – University of Alabama
2002 – Louisiana State University
2001 – Texas A&M University
2000 – University of Georgia
1999 – Texas Tech University
1998 – University of Massachusetts
1997 – West Virginia University
1996 – University of Nebraska
1995 – Purdue University
1994 – James Madison University
1993 – Univ. of California Los Angeles
1992 – Northwestern University
1991 – Arizona State University
1990 – University of Iowa
1989 – University of Kansas
1988 – Michigan State University
1987 – University of Oklahoma
1986 – University of Texas at Austin
1985 – Florida A&M University
1984 – Ohio State University
1983 – University of Illinois
1982 – University of Michigan
I honestly thought they explained this pretty well in the press release but fair enough
Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
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The Pride of Wildcat Land, the Kansas State University Marching Band, has been recognized as the best marching band in the nation.
The band has received the Sudler Trophy, which is given every two years to recognize the top marching band in the U.S.
http://kstatesports.com/news/2014/12/19/5583f320e4b06b726e667296_131478220209045869.aspx
Post by: Trim on October 03, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
Post by: mocat on October 03, 2017, 09:38:57 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 04, 2017, 12:20:07 PM
I bet the eff KUer and the leave in the second quarter not to come back ratio is quite high.
so 30% of the SEZ and NEZ are eff KUers too?
Post by: scottwildcat on October 04, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Complete change of subject but since the start of this thread was about the Sudler Trophy, I want to talk about how I recently discovered that how Dr. Tracz framed the Sudler Trophy was a damn lie, it isn't anything close to anything having to do with having the best band.
http://www.sousafoundation.net/Default.aspx?ID=39QuoteAll publicity distributed by the Sousa Foundation will stress that the award has been given for long time contributions of that school and its directors. This is in keeping with the purpose of the award, which is to publicly recognize outstanding achievements by a collegiate marching band over a period of years. This is NOT a contest to select the BEST college band in any given year.
It also appears as if you aren't allowed to win more than once.
2017 - Iowa State University
2015 - Kansas State University
2013 - University of Florida
2011- University of Notre Dame
2009 - Western Carolina University
2007 – Indiana University
2006 – University of Arkansas
2005 – Penn State University
2004 – Auburn University
2003 – University of Alabama
2002 – Louisiana State University
2001 – Texas A&M University
2000 – University of Georgia
1999 – Texas Tech University
1998 – University of Massachusetts
1997 – West Virginia University
1996 – University of Nebraska
1995 – Purdue University
1994 – James Madison University
1993 – Univ. of California Los Angeles
1992 – Northwestern University
1991 – Arizona State University
1990 – University of Iowa
1989 – University of Kansas
1988 – Michigan State University
1987 – University of Oklahoma
1986 – University of Texas at Austin
1985 – Florida A&M University
1984 – Ohio State University
1983 – University of Illinois
1982 – University of Michigan
:)QuoteThe Pride of Wildcat Land, the Kansas State University Marching Band, has been recognized as the best marching band in the nation.
The band has received the Sudler Trophy, which is given every two years to recognize the top marching band in the U.S.
http://kstatesports.com/news/2014/12/19/5583f320e4b06b726e667296_131478220209045869.aspx
this is amazing
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2017, 02:48:00 PM
I bet the eff KUer and the leave in the second quarter not to come back ratio is quite high.
so 30% of the SEZ and NEZ are eff KUers too?
I quite obviously was only talking about those in the student section.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2017, 02:52:24 PM
Complete change of subject but since the start of this thread was about the Sudler Trophy, I want to talk about how I recently discovered that how Dr. Tracz framed the Sudler Trophy was a damn lie, it isn't anything close to anything having to do with having the best band.
http://www.sousafoundation.net/Default.aspx?ID=39QuoteAll publicity distributed by the Sousa Foundation will stress that the award has been given for long time contributions of that school and its directors. This is in keeping with the purpose of the award, which is to publicly recognize outstanding achievements by a collegiate marching band over a period of years. This is NOT a contest to select the BEST college band in any given year.
It also appears as if you aren't allowed to win more than once.
2017 - Iowa State University
2015 - Kansas State University
2013 - University of Florida
2011- University of Notre Dame
2009 - Western Carolina University
2007 – Indiana University
2006 – University of Arkansas
2005 – Penn State University
2004 – Auburn University
2003 – University of Alabama
2002 – Louisiana State University
2001 – Texas A&M University
2000 – University of Georgia
1999 – Texas Tech University
1998 – University of Massachusetts
1997 – West Virginia University
1996 – University of Nebraska
1995 – Purdue University
1994 – James Madison University
1993 – Univ. of California Los Angeles
1992 – Northwestern University
1991 – Arizona State University
1990 – University of Iowa
1989 – University of Kansas
1988 – Michigan State University
1987 – University of Oklahoma
1986 – University of Texas at Austin
1985 – Florida A&M University
1984 – Ohio State University
1983 – University of Illinois
1982 – University of Michigan:)QuoteThe Pride of Wildcat Land, the Kansas State University Marching Band, has been recognized as the best marching band in the nation.
The band has received the Sudler Trophy, which is given every two years to recognize the top marching band in the U.S.
http://kstatesports.com/news/2014/12/19/5583f320e4b06b726e667296_131478220209045869.aspx
this is amazing
It's pretty damn obvious that Tracz consciously thought that no one would go to the Sudler website and see the criteria. I would have never found it but I was at a Chinese buffet and the owner had the Matt Campbell radio show on the sound system and they mentioned it. It intrigued me to see how this thing was awarded.
Post by: scottwildcat on October 04, 2017, 04:01:30 PM
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2017, 04:13:16 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 04, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Tracz is a fraud and false idol.
you think there are people who idol Frank Tracz?
Post by: mhkpasa on October 04, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Tracz is a fraud and false idol.
you think there are people who idol Frank Tracz?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/archives/20142015/sports/Valero-Alamo-Bowl/Alamo-Bowl-Bands/i-gWcjRGm/0/e8297202/M/01.02.15.AlamoBowl.PR-29-M.jpg)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 04, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2017, 04:52:37 PM
Or used to :frown:
Post by: mhkpasa on October 04, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 04, 2017, 05:22:38 PM
Yes. Talk to any band nerd or people who care about marching band at all and they put him up with LHC Bill SnyderTracz is a fraud and false idol.
you think there are people who idol Frank Tracz?
Post by: renocat on October 04, 2017, 09:39:30 PM
By the way what is a wabash. If I went to NY and told a gal let's wabash, I would be arrested.
Post by: SdK on October 04, 2017, 09:48:42 PM
Post by: Topher on October 04, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
And yes, most of the people who know him well, or have spent time working with him hold him in high regard because they understand his work ethic and contribution to the university - which goes well beyond the marching band.
He was responsible for founding and securing all large donations for the Marching Pride scholarship endowment, which currently serves over 300 students (most of them non-majors). On a yearly basis he travels, unpaid, to between 20-25 Kansas high schools as a guest clinician, recruiting students looking to major in a variety of subjects, but who also want to perform in an ensemble. The clinics, camps, and festivals that he coordinates bring several thousand students to the campus every year. He does what he does with the smallest staff and budget in the Big 12 (and one of the smallest among P5 schools).
He is the only head director of bands in the Big 12, and one of very few within the ranks of D-I universities, to direct the marching band. His primary responsibilities include teaching undergraduate and graduate courses in music education, directing k-state's top concert ensemble (and overseeing many others), coordinating the graduate program in music education, and acting as faculty advisor to the majority of master's and doctoral candidates within the department of music.
I realize most on this board don't really care about the band or Tracz. But as someone who's known him for many years (and served on his staff) I felt it might be good to have some perspective.... in case he ends up getting called out by Bill O'Reilly again.
Complete change of subject but since the start of this thread was about the Sudler Trophy, I want to talk about how I recently discovered that how Dr. Tracz framed the Sudler Trophy was a damn lie, it isn't anything close to anything having to do with having the best band.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 04, 2017, 10:02:16 PM
Post by: SdK on October 04, 2017, 10:02:33 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2017, 10:07:57 PM
Post by: Topher on October 04, 2017, 10:10:51 PM
cool thx frank
Post by: Topher on October 04, 2017, 10:12:09 PM
What's the getting called out by Bill O'Reilly thing!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALOTkMA46L8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALOTkMA46L8)
Post by: SdK on October 04, 2017, 10:29:40 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2017, 10:51:10 PM
In all fairness, Tracz never framed the award this way, nor did he want it framed this way. Any quotes about "best band in the nation" or "national champion" of bands came from university marketing and PR people. If Tracz's goal was to be the best in the nation, he would cut half the band at auditions, making them roughly the size of Ohio State's. But that isn't his goal or educational philosophy.
And yes, most of the people who know him well, or have spent time working with him hold him in high regard because they understand his work ethic and contribution to the university - which goes well beyond the marching band.
He was responsible for founding and securing all large donations for the Marching Pride scholarship endowment, which currently serves over 300 students (most of them non-majors). On a yearly basis he travels, unpaid, to between 20-25 Kansas high schools as a guest clinician, recruiting students looking to major in a variety of subjects, but who also want to perform in an ensemble. The clinics, camps, and festivals that he coordinates bring several thousand students to the campus every year. He does what he does with the smallest staff and budget in the Big 12 (and one of the smallest among P5 schools).
He is the only head director of bands in the Big 12, and one of very few within the ranks of D-I universities, to direct the marching band. His primary responsibilities include teaching undergraduate and graduate courses in music education, directing k-state's top concert ensemble (and overseeing many others), coordinating the graduate program in music education, and acting as faculty advisor to the majority of master's and doctoral candidates within the department of music.
I realize most on this board don't really care about the band or Tracz. But as someone who's known him for many years (and served on his staff) I felt it might be good to have some perspective.... in case he ends up getting called out by Bill O'Reilly again.Complete change of subject but since the start of this thread was about the Sudler Trophy, I want to talk about how I recently discovered that how Dr. Tracz framed the Sudler Trophy was a damn lie, it isn't anything close to anything having to do with having the best band.
I love our band, they're great.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 05, 2017, 07:10:18 AM
Yes. Talk to any band nerd or people who care about marching band at all and they put him up with LHC Bill SnyderTracz is a fraud and false idol.
you think there are people who idol Frank Tracz?
Was in marching band 4 years. I had a great experience and made a lot of friends and would hope my kids get an experience like that. I don't know a single person who I was in band with who thinks about Tracz like that. He has a crazy temper, at least he did then. I think he does a good job and its a tough gig, but he's a flawed guy. Most people who are around him realize this.
I like him but nobody idolizes him. At least nobody I know.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 09:23:37 AM
Also band pub crawls on friday evening :love:
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/643444788985892864
Post by: kso_FAN on October 05, 2017, 11:45:57 AM
Marching bands are one of the things that keep college football from becoming nfl lite. I really don't care about pre-game or half-time (tho I love when they March through the parking lot getting everyone pumped), but the atmosphere during a game with the band is fantastic. There is absolutely no way to replicate that by just playing the songs over the sound system.
Also band pub crawls on friday evening :love:
The Redskins tho...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vvmZoRsJzs
:D
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 05, 2017, 11:48:19 AM
Marching bands are one of the things that keep college football from becoming nfl lite. I really don't care about pre-game or half-time (tho I love when they March through the parking lot getting everyone pumped), but the atmosphere during a game with the band is fantastic. There is absolutely no way to replicate that by just playing the songs over the sound system.
Also band pub crawls on friday evening :love:
totally agree. there's a big portion of fans who want jock jams, but (as a band nerd) I love what the band brings.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2017, 01:07:03 PM
Marching bands are one of the things that keep college football from becoming nfl lite. I really don't care about pre-game or half-time (tho I love when they March through the parking lot getting everyone pumped), but the atmosphere during a game with the band is fantastic. There is absolutely no way to replicate that by just playing the songs over the sound system.
Also band pub crawls on friday evening :love:
totally agree. there's a big portion of fans who want jock jams, but (as a band nerd) I love what the band brings.
We have the perfect mix of band and canned audio.
Post by: renocat on October 09, 2017, 06:23:45 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on October 14, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
Tom
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2017, 03:54:02 PM
Post by: SdK on October 14, 2017, 04:09:09 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 14, 2017, 08:17:58 PM
Wabash hasn't been played todayIt was played 4 different times in the second half. I don’t know when you posted this.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
Wabash hasn't been played todayIt was played 4 different times in the second half. I don’t know when you posted this.
You probably should be able to figure it out, no?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 14, 2017, 10:51:07 PM
Still leading the league in performing in t shirts and shorts.
Tom
Tom! Yes! Would love to get CF3's thoughts on this phenomenon.
Post by: WildcatPower on October 14, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
The band is good this year.
The only thing worth a lick this year.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2017, 11:05:34 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on October 21, 2017, 11:33:23 PM
Tom
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Post by: SdK on October 21, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
t-shirts and shorts again. I wonder if they felt like slobs when they looked over to see the OU band in full uniform after a 5 hour bus ride.I hope so.
Post by: chum1 on October 21, 2017, 11:39:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2017, 11:46:42 PM
Half time.performamce? MIR please tell me this is not true.
Tom
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After the half, they were wearing dusters. It was quite the look, dusters with shorts. Seems like they could have just worn the uniform and the dusters wouldn't be necessary.
Post by: scottwildcat on October 22, 2017, 07:36:38 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2017, 08:57:48 AM
I like the little intro verse to the fight song. Should bring it back pregame imo
me too
Post by: OK_Cat on October 22, 2017, 10:58:54 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Post by: MadCat on October 23, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
I like the little intro verse to the fight song. Should bring it back pregame imo
me too
I ran across an old glee club audio file that included the intro. I don't recall it being sung to the melody of the rest of the song though. I'll post it if I find it again.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 23, 2017, 03:31:15 PM
Hail to the purple
Hail to the white
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever
Wildcat Victory
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 23, 2017, 03:34:05 PM
The band is super fat and gross. Tv had slow motion video of them running into the field, and every single person was gross and jiggly.
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I noticed that, too. The slow motion made it look even worse. To be fair, I think it was mostly the trombone section we were seeing.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 23, 2017, 03:50:36 PM
Let’s see if I have it memorized.
Hail to the purple
Hail to the white
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever
Wildcat Victory
:thumbsup:
Post by: MadCat on October 23, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ky2/krazykendal/powercat.html (http://www.angelfire.com/ky2/krazykendal/powercat.html)
Post by: KST8FAN on December 23, 2017, 09:55:13 PM
Tom (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171224/ea4a57edac12c7dd09a7d1bf775b47d3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171224/a8b4dc9773ff297a39ffc6c07d241d21.jpg)
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Post by: Pete on December 23, 2017, 10:18:37 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 23, 2017, 10:41:46 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 24, 2017, 10:02:28 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on December 24, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
That truck will hold a lot of t-shirts and shortsLOL. MIR nails it.
Tom
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 13, 2018, 04:24:39 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
K-State band to Wichita, should cross post this in the Wichita thread. Awesome idea by Tracz.
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
Post by: DQ12 on October 17, 2018, 02:54:32 PM
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2018, 12:36:20 AM
https://twitter.com/blakemoris/status/1061468245893545984
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2018, 09:08:57 AM
https://twitter.com/TheRealTy13r/status/1061602742047834112
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 11, 2018, 12:35:40 PM
https://twitter.com/blakemoris/status/1061472443284553728?s=19
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2018, 12:36:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 11, 2018, 01:07:23 PM
Post by: hemmy on November 11, 2018, 03:36:20 PM
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2018, 04:46:33 PM
Band geeks are the worst
Yesterday could've been great if they'd invested their energy into doing something clever (like forming a giant dong to the mouf) rather than saving it to collectively tweet about being victims today.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 11, 2018, 07:49:26 PM
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2018, 08:00:43 PM
They just want to be nice, Trim! Heh. That thread is lolz.
Tracz should handle the music parts of the band, and I should be brought in to lead all the parts relevant to it being a side piece of an ostensibly competitive football game.
The dong I'd have them form would be at least 50 yards long.
Post by: Trim on December 11, 2019, 02:14:15 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on December 11, 2019, 02:16:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 11, 2019, 02:48:51 PM
Post by: nicname on December 11, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
Shelby Gash
I love how proud of it she is. She's great.
Post by: Trim on December 11, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
Shelby Gash
I love how proud of it she is. She's great.
Gash >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracz
Post by: IPA4Me on December 11, 2019, 03:35:24 PM
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Post by: Katpappy on December 11, 2019, 05:00:41 PM
https://q13fox.com/2019/12/11/womans-naughty-christmas-light-display-turns-off-neighbors/
Pic's don't show on article.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 11, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on December 11, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Post by: slackcat on December 11, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Post by: Katpappy on December 12, 2019, 12:14:41 PM
Post by: PurpleOil on December 17, 2019, 08:45:40 AM
That's f'ing great! Good for her
Post by: pissclams on December 17, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2021, 11:01:34 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 08, 2021, 04:48:17 PM
The band signed a feature twirler from West Des Moines and it led the sports portion of the evening news, even before KU signing a drake transfer and tiger's accident investigation findings.incredible
Post by: chum1 on April 08, 2021, 05:15:21 PM
(https://www.k-state.edu/mtd/images/faculty-staff/Tracz%20headshot%202.1.PNG)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2021, 06:07:42 PM
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Post by: Big Sam on April 08, 2021, 06:44:25 PM
The band signed a feature twirler from West Des Moines and it led the sports portion of the evening news, even before KU signing a drake transfer and tiger's accident investigation findings.incredible
Life is always more interesting with video. https://www.kcci.com/article/talented-west-des-moines-iowa-twirler-lands-scholarship-with-her-fiery-routine/36060143# (https://www.kcci.com/article/talented-west-des-moines-iowa-twirler-lands-scholarship-with-her-fiery-routine/36060143#)
Post by: MadCat on April 09, 2021, 09:47:32 AM
The band signed a feature twirler from West Des Moines and it led the sports portion of the evening news, even before KU signing a drake transfer and tiger's accident investigation findings.incredible
Life is always more interesting with video. https://www.kcci.com/article/talented-west-des-moines-iowa-twirler-lands-scholarship-with-her-fiery-routine/36060143# (https://www.kcci.com/article/talented-west-des-moines-iowa-twirler-lands-scholarship-with-her-fiery-routine/36060143#)
Quote
You burn all of your arm hair off, so that's nice
Post by: Trim on April 28, 2021, 11:58:01 PM
https://twitter.com/KStatePride/status/1387606313614462979
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2021, 01:58:10 AM
This is all bad. The band getting moved means less tickets for the students, not that they've been using them anyway. I hope the mic the band up and distribute the sound using the new sound system. I'm very interested to see how they will now use the vacated band section they have been at since that corner got filled.
I guess the only news here is that backlight Sudler Award lettering on that section can come down now.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 29, 2021, 06:23:16 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 29, 2021, 07:30:57 AM
Good time to remember how Currie was an absolute sadist about domineering over Tracz on this.
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/774248334504538112
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 29, 2021, 09:20:58 AM
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Here's a recap of the interview. I remember it vividly.
Currie: Tell everyone about how awesome the new band section is and how much you love it!
Tracz: The band has always been a big part of
Currie: TELL THEM YOU LOVE BEING IN THE CORNER!!!
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2021, 09:41:34 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 10:28:41 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 10:33:46 AM
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2021, 11:43:56 AM
Post by: Katpappy on April 29, 2021, 11:52:58 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2021, 01:42:46 PM
you think he's sat on the sidelines for the last 40 years and learned nothing?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2021, 07:47:10 PM
MORE CHEAP END ZONE SEATS!!! :excited:
I would hope they turn it into another party deck. Maybe a GA section with beer?
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2021, 08:04:36 PM
MORE CHEAP END ZONE SEATS!!! :excited:
I would hope they turn it into another party deck. Maybe a GA section with beer?
My hope as well. Or a walk thru mostly SRO spot like the Royals have
Post by: PurpleOil on April 30, 2021, 08:17:49 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 30, 2021, 10:18:38 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 30, 2021, 03:50:50 PM
I received an e-mail the other day stating that they were going to put in a 2nd area to consume alcohol inside the stadium. I couldn't figure out where that was going to go until I heard this news. I would bet that they're going to turn that corner into another beer garden type area. If they don't, then I have no idea why they're moving the band. I thought the band looked great in that corner, and the acoustics were much better there than when they were in the student section.
I thought the other beer spot was going to be in the south end zone. It does make sense to put it in the band section but that's seating for about 400 people so if they don't sell those as tickets we will have reduced capacity.
The band and the athletic department made it quite clear that they moved the band back because Tracz didn't want to be in the section created for the band and he asked Gene and Gene said yes. He was actually able to convince Gene that the band being in the student section actually effected the opponent and the game.
Post by: PurpleOil on April 30, 2021, 04:06:04 PM
Post by: Trim on April 30, 2021, 04:16:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
Well, I don't know what to say to that except if it is true, Gene probably needs to be shown the door.
lol yeah. it's like the dumbest thing I've ever hear.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2021, 12:03:00 AM
Well, I don't know what to say to that except if it is true, Gene probably needs to be shown the door.
This is from an email to the season ticket holders yesterday.
(https://images2.imagebam.com/03/52/7b/c0d7081376272665.png)
Post by: chum1 on May 01, 2021, 06:26:11 AM
Post by: KITNfury on May 01, 2021, 08:24:15 AM
Post by: PurpleOil on May 01, 2021, 11:15:05 AM
Well, I don't know what to say to that except if it is true, Gene probably needs to be shown the door.
This is from an email to the season ticket holders yesterday.
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That's the same e-mail I received. My initial thoughts were that's how they were spinning this move. Relocate the band, claim it's for gameday purposes, then announce a new beer garden in the NE corner.
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I like how Tracz talks like he's speaking on behalf of the entire band. Because the few people I've known in marching band and also everyone they hung out with in marching band absolutely did not give a eff about the football games.
Well... they didn't care about football games like normal people do. They cared about them for band reasons.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2021, 12:06:19 PM
Well, I don't know what to say to that except if it is true, Gene probably needs to be shown the door.
This is from an email to the season ticket holders yesterday.
(https://images2.imagebam.com/03/52/7b/c0d7081376272665.png)
That's the same e-mail I received. My initial thoughts were that's how they were spinning this move. Relocate the band, claim it's for gameday purposes, then announce a new beer garden in the NE corner.Quote from: chum1I like how Tracz talks like he's speaking on behalf of the entire band. Because the few people I've known in marching band and also everyone they hung out with in marching band absolutely did not give a eff about the football games.
Well... they didn't care about football games like normal people do. They cared about them for band reasons.
In his last ask the AD video Gene said the beer garden was planned for the SEZ. We know Tracz never wanted to move, and taking the AD at their word they said they did it because Tracz wanted to move back. Even if they do turn that corner into a beer garden it's going to take a lot of money to retrofit it. That corner of the concourse is already a bit of a bottleneck, which is likely to get worse when they build the practice facility over there.. Squeezing a concession stand on that corner seems like an odd choice.
If you think moving the band back because the band wants to is a fireable offense, wouldn't publicly lying about it be even more of a fireable offense? I don't think they're lying or spinning, I think Gene saw that they are having a hard time selling student tickets and he's sick of hearing Tracz cry about it.
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2021, 01:24:39 PM
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Post by: Pete on May 01, 2021, 02:09:10 PM
Also funny that this was announced. Like does anyone care?
I don't really understand it, but I think a bunch of people do care about every little thing at the stadium. Lots of people get fired up about turf colors and stuff like that too.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2021, 03:46:02 PM
Also funny that this was announced. Like does anyone care?
I do think it would be a giant WTF.if you're a season ticket holder and you show up to the stadium to see the band not in the section built for them. There also need to be an explanation as to why that section will all of a sudden be up for sale.
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2021, 04:24:16 PM
Yeah you're right, it's a big part of the experience for a lot of peopleAlso funny that this was announced. Like does anyone care?
I do think it would be a giant WTF.if you're a season ticket holder and you show up to the stadium to see the band not in the section built for them. There also need to be an explanation as to why that section will all of a sudden be up for sale.
Post by: KST8FAN on May 01, 2021, 05:05:23 PM
Pro tip... the trombone section will eat up 2 rows.
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Post by: Katpappy on May 01, 2021, 10:41:16 PM
Also funny that this was announced. Like does anyone care?
I don't really understand it, but I think a bunch of people do care about every little thing at the stadium. Lots of people get fired up about turf colors and stuff like that too.
@Skinbenny
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2021, 11:07:02 PM
So do they customize the center student section or is that part of the appeal just cram the band into standard bleachers?
Pro tip... the trombone section will eat up 2 rows.
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They're standard bleachers
Post by: IPA4Me on May 02, 2021, 08:02:38 AM
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Post by: PurpleOil on May 03, 2021, 06:43:59 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain
If you think moving the band back because the band wants to is a fireable offense, wouldn't publicly lying about it be even more of a fireable offense? I don't think they're lying or spinning, I think Gene saw that they are having a hard time selling student tickets and he's sick of hearing Tracz cry about it.
So what? The AD doesn't take orders from the freaking band. I don't think moving the band is a fireable offense, but not being able to stick up to the band director and tell him to shut up and enjoy his primo new seating area certainly is in the realm.
If everything really has gone down the way it's being given to us, then this is a giant disappointment. Winning will fill the student section back up. The band looked and sounded better in the NE corner, and if that's not being used for a new garden, then that part of the stadium is going to look really odd.
I hate that we now have to fix something that wasn't broken.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 03, 2021, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: MakeItRainIf you think moving the band back because the band wants to is a fireable offense, wouldn't publicly lying about it be even more of a fireable offense? I don't think they're lying or spinning, I think Gene saw that they are having a hard time selling student tickets and he's sick of hearing Tracz cry about it.
So what? The AD doesn't take orders from the freaking band. I don't think moving the band is a fireable offense, but not being able to stick up to the band director and tell him to shut up and enjoy his primo new seating area certainly is in the realm.
If everything really has gone down the way it's being given to us, then this is a giant disappointment. Winning will fill the student section back up. The band looked and sounded better in the NE corner, and if that's not being used for a new garden, then that part of the stadium is going to look really odd.
I hate that we now have to fix something that wasn't broken.
Other than the fireable offense thing I don't disagree with you. @IPA4Me said we are getting fired up about band location but it's not really about that. I think it is ridiculous that we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars just 5 years ago to make that section specifically for the band and now we're going to have to spend money to change it because the band director wants a better seat for the game. The reason given, they are a distraction to the visitors, is idiotic. I have had season tickets since 1996, first four years in icat. It's cool that we give students and the band such good seats, but they're not distracting the visitors any more than they are in that corner.
I don't even hold it against Tracz for being a baby about this, I imagine coaches cry about petty stuff all the time. Tracz seems to have a cult of personality thing going, like Snyder did, so I'm sure he's a giant diva, but the AD needs to be able to tell his coaches to kick rocks when their wishes don't align with what's best for the department.
The problem here is that for the fan base this will be looked at as overwhelmingly positive, Gene and Frank both knows this too.
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2021, 10:07:07 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on May 24, 2021, 08:21:53 AM
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Post by: MadCat on May 24, 2021, 09:32:51 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 24, 2021, 09:16:45 PM
https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/k-state-marching-band-loses-equipment-looking-at-new-facility/
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I saw a solicitation about the band facility over the weekend, they want it in East Stadium.
Post by: Katpappy on May 25, 2021, 12:32:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 25, 2021, 12:48:48 PM
https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/k-state-marching-band-loses-equipment-looking-at-new-facility/
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I saw a solicitation about the band facility over the weekend, they want it inEastWest Stadium.
Post by: PurpleOil on May 25, 2021, 06:34:53 PM
Having been in those, prior to renovation, I don't see how that's a bad idea. Those "rooms" haven't really been touched since they were built as dorms back in the ancient times, then turned to storage. I had a speech class in one of the few classrooms on the East side once.
Post by: bucket on May 25, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
I was about to ask if you didn't mean the West Stadium. IIRC the East Stadium has recently been renovated to be some kind of welcoming center, paired with the Alumni Center that's right there to the west of its entrance.
Having been in those, prior to renovation, I don't see how that's a bad idea. Those "rooms" haven't really been touched since they were built as dorms back in the ancient times, then turned to storage. I had a speech class in one of the few classrooms on the East side once.
The Purple Masque Theatre is under the bleachers on the west side of the field at East Stadium so I'm not sure where you'd put the band.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 25, 2021, 09:22:35 PM
I was about to ask if you didn't mean the West Stadium. IIRC the East Stadium has recently been renovated to be some kind of welcoming center, paired with the Alumni Center that's right there to the west of its entrance.
Having been in those, prior to renovation, I don't see how that's a bad idea. Those "rooms" haven't really been touched since they were built as dorms back in the ancient times, then turned to storage. I had a speech class in one of the few classrooms on the East side once.
The Purple Masque Theatre is under the bleachers on the west side of the field at East Stadium so I'm not sure where you'd put the band.
Purple Masque Theatre is in the south side of east stadium, they want the band center in the north side.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 26, 2021, 04:22:33 AM
From a cost outlay perspective this move is total bullshit given that Phase II of VFFC/NEZ could have integrated a revenue producing component from Day 1 for that now former band area.
Given the design of BSFS this now means that once again a substantial portion of the stadium can’t hear the band during the game. So for those that care in many parts of the stadium. No in game Wabash or Wildcat Victory for you. The band is again just a distant bass drum drone.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 26, 2021, 10:00:14 AM
Post by: chum1 on May 26, 2021, 10:40:27 AM
Apparently this was less about appeasing Tracz's whining and more about a consistent decline in student ticket sales.
That makes sense. I hope we get good again soon and Tracz has to unwillingly move to the corner again.
Post by: pissclams on May 26, 2021, 11:30:56 AM
Post by: PurpleOil on May 26, 2021, 01:03:23 PM
Apparently this was less about appeasing Tracz's whining and more about a consistent decline in student ticket sales.
I know you've usually got fairly reliable sources, but I'm going to go ahead and ask how you know this. Ticket sales go up and go down. Snyder's last few years created great apathy and Covid didn't do any favors. Is there a plan to move the band back if ticket sales go back up? If not, does anyone have a plan for the purpose built band area since it has now been vacated?
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Post by: PurpleOil on May 26, 2021, 02:23:17 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 26, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
Apparently this was less about appeasing Tracz's whining and more about a consistent decline in student ticket sales.
I know you've usually got fairly reliable sources, but I'm going to go ahead and ask how you know this. Ticket sales go up and go down. Snyder's last few years created great apathy and Covid didn't do any favors. Is there a plan to move the band back if ticket sales go back up? If not, does anyone have a plan for the purpose built band area since it has now been vacated?
The current sales are definitely a factor but I'd say the larger factor is the trend of declining student ticket sales nationwide. It's an industry issue, not a K-State one. This was an issue/concern even before the pandemic, now there's the additional concern as to if there will be some hesitancy to return for some.
What's the long term play for that section, dunno. I don't even even know the short term plan. I do know another industry trend and what consumers want are more amenities/experiences. My guess is that will eventually become another private area or a no beer allowed family section if they go to stadiumwide alcohol sales in 2021 which I think is a strong possibility.
As far as hearing the band goes I'd hope we'd find a way to get them wired into the audio system. They do this at other places like OU. Maybe our stadium is too small and they can't get the acoustics right?
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2021, 06:03:34 PM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1397946652351242240
Post by: MakeItRain on June 25, 2021, 09:47:13 PM
Post by: Trim on June 25, 2021, 11:36:57 PM
The old band section is just going to be a GA section. So to recap the band was moved back to the student section because the general admission seating in section 28 and the student section didn't sell well, so we make the band section GA, doesn't this just shift the empty seats?
Shifts them away from the backdrop in the main tv angle. :dunno:
Post by: MakeItRain on June 26, 2021, 12:54:21 AM
The old band section is just going to be a GA section. So to recap the band was moved back to the student section because the general admission seating in section 28 and the student section didn't sell well, so we make the band section GA, doesn't this just shift the empty seats?
Shifts them away from the backdrop in the main tv angle. :dunno:
Didn't think of that
Post by: GregKSU1027 on July 17, 2021, 12:29:33 AM
Can confirm its because of ticket sales. Student ticket sales are down and people are still weary because of ‘rona. K-States ticket sales were declining when I was in school which was just the last 5 years. They had trouble selling out of ICAT the last two years i was there.Apparently this was less about appeasing Tracz's whining and more about a consistent decline in student ticket sales.
I know you've usually got fairly reliable sources, but I'm going to go ahead and ask how you know this. Ticket sales go up and go down. Snyder's last few years created great apathy and Covid didn't do any favors. Is there a plan to move the band back if ticket sales go back up? If not, does anyone have a plan for the purpose built band area since it has now been vacated?
The current sales are definitely a factor but I'd say the larger factor is the trend of declining student ticket sales nationwide. It's an industry issue, not a K-State one. This was an issue/concern even before the pandemic, now there's the additional concern as to if there will be some hesitancy to return for some.
What's the long term play for that section, dunno. I don't even even know the short term plan. I do know another industry trend and what consumers want are more amenities/experiences. My guess is that will eventually become another private area or a no beer allowed family section if they go to stadiumwide alcohol sales in 2021 which I think is a strong possibility.
As far as hearing the band goes I'd hope we'd find a way to get them wired into the audio system. They do this at other places like OU. Maybe our stadium is too small and they can't get the acoustics right?
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2023, 11:10:36 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 30, 2023, 11:32:33 AM
Current drum major just quit very publicly on FB, and people are coming out alleging toxic abuse from Dr. Tracz. We'll see how it plays out.link? I know some young people who are current members of the band and love band / Dr Tracz but not everyone has the same experience, of course.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2023, 11:53:27 AM
Post by: KCFDcat on June 30, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
Current drum major just quit very publicly on FB, and people are coming out alleging toxic abuse from Dr. Tracz. We'll see how it plays out.link? I know some young people who are current members of the band and love band / Dr Tracz but not everyone has the same experience, of course.
Would love to see a screen grab of this.
I was in the band for 2 seasons at KSU. Can confirm Tracz can be pretty abusive towards some kids.
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2023, 02:27:17 PM
Post by: Katpappy on June 30, 2023, 04:31:03 PM
PLAY THE DRUM HARDER YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!
PLAY THE DRUM LOADER YOU CAT BASTARD!!!....FYP :blush: :cheers:
Post by: Spracne on June 30, 2023, 04:33:32 PM
Post by: Katpappy on June 30, 2023, 04:47:48 PM
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2023, 05:12:06 PM
Post by: KCFDcat on June 30, 2023, 05:44:59 PM
PLAY THE DRUM HARDER YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!
He once threatened to kick me out of band (which would give me an F, and lose my scholarship) for missing a practice to visit my mother after a surgery. A TA told me it was fine to miss and would clear it with Tracz, I had to have about an hour long meeting with him about how I let everyone down and how I would likely not amount to anything in life due to my disrespect for my peers. Pretty insane crap to tell an 18 yr old whose mother was battling cancer IMO
Post by: MakeItRain on June 30, 2023, 05:55:07 PM
Current drum major just quit very publicly on FB, and people are coming out alleging toxic abuse from Dr. Tracz. We'll see how it plays out.link? I know some young people who are current members of the band and love band / Dr Tracz but not everyone has the same experience, of course.
This probably isn't the post that CF3 is referring to but it's all I saw
(https://i.ibb.co/0MKWhvL/Screenshot-20230630-175123.png)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 30, 2023, 06:01:32 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2023, 08:02:12 PM
Current drum major just quit very publicly on FB, and people are coming out alleging toxic abuse from Dr. Tracz. We'll see how it plays out.link? I know some young people who are current members of the band and love band / Dr Tracz but not everyone has the same experience, of course.
This probably isn't the post that CF3 is referring to but it's all I saw
(https://i.ibb.co/0MKWhvL/Screenshot-20230630-175123.png)
This was from a dude my age who was in the music department with me. He was referencing the current issues and how they relate to his own experience. Very talented guy. Had a falling out with Tracz, don't know the details. In the comments of this post and several others he made, a lot of my music dept friends who now have students in the band are indicating there is fire around this smoke.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2023, 08:03:26 PM
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Disclaimer: Long post ahead, but if you have just a couple of minutes, I ask that you please take a moment to read.
I’ve spent a lot of time recently reflecting on my past few years in the K-State Marching Band. Throughout the past four years, I’ve developed unforgettable friendships and memories, and learned a lot about myself as a leader and as an overall person.
Ultimately, I decided to come to K-State because of the reputation of the KSUMB and my high school experiences with the K-State band program. Coming into the band, I never would have imagined having the opportunities I have had and experiencing the things I have. So, it is bittersweet and with a heavy heart that is share that I have decided to step away from the K-State Marching Band for my final year at KSU.
Regardless of my love for this band and the gratitude I have for the people I have met and the experiences and opportunities I have been presented with, I have also been faced with far too many shocking, unsettling, and problematic encounters throughout my recent semesters that go against my morals and values as a human being and an educator. Without revealing too many details, I have witnessed overt mistreatment of many members within our band program, myself included, and, while I have an undying love for the band and all members involved, it feels wrong for myself to continue to be associated with this type of behavior and disregard for basic human decency while turning a blind eye.
Some may be quick to make other assumptions as to why I am leaving the band, and to that all I can say is there is no other reason other than the cases of disrespect and mistreatment towards many band members, which I have previously mentioned. I am very sad to leave my drum major team of Audrey, Farhan, and Colby, behind, but I am thrilled to see what they do this year. I am beyond proud of Audrey for receiving the head drum major position and I can’t wait to see how she thrives in this position. Ever since she was announced as head drum major, I knew the band was in OUTSTANDING hands. Thank you to these individuals and my past drum major team, Daniel, Taton, and Audrey, for helping to mold me into the person I am.
This was an incredibly hard decision to make, and one that did not come without many weeks of endless thoughts, prayers, and reflections. I will forever be grateful for my time in the KSUMB, the people I have met, and the opportunities I have had. I hope I will stand as a model for anyone who may find themself in a similar (or the same) situation, to know that your morals, values, and health is what’s most important, and that standing up for what you believe in is never a selfish choice. I will always have a deep love and pride the KSUMB and I am so excited to see what they accomplish this season.
As I spent time reflecting on this decision, I also took some time to look through some memories of my past four years, and decided to attach some of my favorite photos to stand as a representation of how grateful I am for the experiences I have had. Go cats, and go band. 💜
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2023, 08:06:52 PM
Dr. Tracz is an incredibly hard working guy with high standards, and emotional immaturity. He had a quick temper and would get angry from time to time. One time to me he told me "I wish you'd stop being so goddamn lazy" after I did an assignment incorrectly in conducting class. I had done the assignment, just not in the correct way. It was my mistake, but come on, I misread one step. That being said, I never saw him cross a line to what I would consider abusive, however that's my experience and not everyone else's.
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2023, 08:25:28 PM
eff that guy and cancerPLAY THE DRUM HARDER YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!
He once threatened to kick me out of band (which would give me an F, and lose my scholarship) for missing a practice to visit my mother after a surgery. A TA told me it was fine to miss and would clear it with Tracz, I had to have about an hour long meeting with him about how I let everyone down and how I would likely not amount to anything in life due to my disrespect for my peers. Pretty insane crap to tell an 18 yr old whose mother was battling cancer IMO
Post by: KCFDcat on June 30, 2023, 09:50:47 PM
My personal experience, which does not negate anyone else's:
Dr. Tracz is an incredibly hard working guy with high standards, and emotional immaturity. He had a quick temper and would get angry from time to time. One time to me he told me "I wish you'd stop being so goddamn lazy" after I did an assignment incorrectly in conducting class. I had done the assignment, just not in the correct way. It was my mistake, but come on, I misread one step. That being said, I never saw him cross a line to what I would consider abusive, however that's my experience and not everyone else's.
Sounds like a pretty standard interaction with him. Honestly he was way less abusive than my HS music teacher so I didn’t think it was much of an issue at the time.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 01, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
Post by: Trim on July 02, 2023, 10:18:05 PM
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Many years ago, Tracz had a conversation with the then-president of K-State, Jon Wefald. Wefald highlighted the connection between the band and the university as a whole.
“He said that the football team and the marching band are the front porch of the house,” Tracz said. “If I am trying to sell the house, I’ve got to make that front lawn and that front porch have curb appeal to get people to notice it. We get them on the porch, we get them in the house, and they can tell what a great academic institution K-State is.”
https://themercury.com/features/we-are-moving-in-k-states-tracz-family-band-hall-set-to-open-this-fall/article_863ad6fb-a84a-5874-9bd4-28e7c04dc01c.html
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 03, 2023, 08:51:58 AM
Not that I really care all that much, but they built a special area for the K-State band, and put them in a place where the whole stadium could hear them, and at moments during the game hearing them is a good. But he moved the band right back to where for a good portion of the stadium, the band is just some droning down below. :dunno:
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 03, 2023, 08:59:05 AM
My high school had an incredible marching band, won all kinds of competitions, the director got tons of offers from colleges. I think he was a demanding guy, but not a douche. But it seems like lots of band directors are douches.
Not that I really care all that much, but they built a special area for the K-State band, and put them in a place where the whole stadium could hear them, and at moments during the game hearing them is a good. But he moved the band right back to where for a good portion of the stadium, the band is just some droning down below. :dunno:
Are there any quotes as to why they moved back to the stupid section?
Post by: schreds21 on July 03, 2023, 09:44:12 AM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on July 03, 2023, 10:19:36 AM
Waiting for @hatingfrancisco to weigh in on this
Canco on whats being said but I was a lazy shithead when I was in the band so he definitely wasn't wrong.
Tracz is ready for retirement and I think his style isn't meshing well with todays youth.
Post by: MakeItRain on July 03, 2023, 11:07:23 AM
My high school had an incredible marching band, won all kinds of competitions, the director got tons of offers from colleges. I think he was a demanding guy, but not a douche. But it seems like lots of band directors are douches.
Not that I really care all that much, but they built a special area for the K-State band, and put them in a place where the whole stadium could hear them, and at moments during the game hearing them is a good. But he moved the band right back to where for a good portion of the stadium, the band is just some droning down below. :dunno:
Are there any quotes as to why they moved back to the stupid section?
Tracz never wanted to be in that section then when student ticket sales started to really tank it made the choice to give in to Tracz and move the band back a very easy call. Before they moved the band back there were many games where section 28 was straight empty, not kind of empty but completely empty.
I don't think the band will ever go back. I'd like to see us convert that space into another premium seating area instead of the ga spillover it currently is.
Post by: KCFDcat on July 03, 2023, 10:24:56 PM
My high school had an incredible marching band, won all kinds of competitions, the director got tons of offers from colleges. I think he was a demanding guy, but not a douche. But it seems like lots of band directors are douches.
Not that I really care all that much, but they built a special area for the K-State band, and put them in a place where the whole stadium could hear them, and at moments during the game hearing them is a good. But he moved the band right back to where for a good portion of the stadium, the band is just some droning down below. :dunno:
Are there any quotes as to why they moved back to the stupid section?
Tracz never wanted to be in that section then when student ticket sales started to really tank it made the choice to give in to Tracz and move the band back a very easy call. Before they moved the band back there were many games where section 28 was straight empty, not kind of empty but completely empty.
I don't think the band will ever go back. I'd like to see us convert that space into another premium seating area instead of the ga spillover it currently is.
IMO the band belongs in the NEZ directly behind the endzone. Would be best acoustics for everyone.
Make the student section smaller by 1/2 a section to make up for the added seats from the band.
Agreed, both EZ corners should be premium seating. Find a way to retro fit some loge boxes in the NE corner and call it good. crap, I’d buy those seats if they could figure out a way to get some shade over there.
Post by: 'taterblast on July 18, 2023, 10:50:28 AM
https://1350kman.com/2023/07/tracz-family-band-hall-postpones-open-house/ (https://1350kman.com/2023/07/tracz-family-band-hall-postpones-open-house/)
Post by: PhoCat on July 18, 2023, 05:08:40 PM
Canco on whats being said but I was a lazy shithead when I was in the band so he definitely wasn't wrong.
Tracz is ready for retirement and I think his style isn't meshing well with todays youth.
Do not disagree, but this is also a reminder of who a growing portion of today's youth are.
pic.twitter.com/xHfavYIkrz (http://pic.twitter.com/xHfavYIkrz)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 18, 2023, 09:13:35 PM
Post by: MadCat on July 19, 2023, 09:52:46 AM
Post by: michigancat on July 19, 2023, 10:10:41 AM
pic.twitter.com/xHfavYIkrz (http://pic.twitter.com/xHfavYIkrz)
solidarity, comrade. down with the timeriarchy!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2023, 10:21:31 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/us/alabama-band-director-tased-arrested/index.html
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 19, 2023, 11:47:16 AM
Did Tracz ever have this kind of zeal?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/us/alabama-band-director-tased-arrested/index.html
wrong thread. best to avoid all cops.
Post by: Katpappy on September 19, 2023, 12:33:16 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 19, 2023, 01:40:34 PM
Post by: Katpappy on September 19, 2023, 03:49:57 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2023, 04:03:03 PM
Did Tracz ever have this kind of zeal?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/us/alabama-band-director-tased-arrested/index.html
wrong thread. best to avoid all cops.
agreed but the band director angle was too much for me...
Post by: Trim on September 19, 2023, 08:41:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2023, 04:51:22 AM
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Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2023, 09:54:09 PM
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Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2023, 10:00:57 PM
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Post by: OB_Won on September 23, 2023, 10:12:20 PM
It was 89 degrees at kickoff in Tuscaloosa today, please explain our "uniforms" to meIt just means more
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Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2023, 10:31:18 PM
It was 89 degrees at kickoff in Tuscaloosa today, please explain our "uniforms" to meTake it to the signs of getting old thread, sir.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2023, 10:32:48 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2023, 11:23:51 PM
Do young people think those uniforms are good??It was 89 degrees at kickoff in Tuscaloosa today, please explain our "uniforms" to meTake it to the signs of getting old thread, sir.
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Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2023, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2023, 12:37:56 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on September 24, 2023, 12:58:52 AM
Young people don’t care about band uniformsSo they're going to quit calling me to donate money for "band uniforms?"
Tom
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Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2023, 01:12:24 AM
They know olds like you eat that crap up, Tom.Young people don’t care about band uniformsSo they're going to quit calling me to donate money for "band uniforms?"
Tom
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Post by: michigancat on September 24, 2023, 08:36:43 AM
Young people don’t care about band uniforms
The fact that they are band uniforms does not influence my feelings on how bad they are from a fashion standpoint. Like, they're just bad as articles of clothing.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 24, 2023, 09:30:04 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on September 24, 2023, 09:42:01 AM
Guilty. Fool me once, I guess. It still looks amateurish.They know olds like you eat that crap up, Tom.Young people don’t care about band uniformsSo they're going to quit calling me to donate money for "band uniforms?"
Tom
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Tom
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Post by: chum1 on September 24, 2023, 09:43:33 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on September 24, 2023, 07:26:59 PM
They should go ahead and sell sponsorship patches for them. Very NASCARy.those things came from a slow pitch softball vendor, no doubt in my mind
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 24, 2023, 07:31:54 PM
It was 89 degrees at kickoff in Tuscaloosa today, please explain our "uniforms" to me
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ok dax
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 24, 2023, 07:33:43 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 24, 2023, 07:41:36 PM
I can't stand that he doesn't make them wear uniforms until October. The assistant UCF band director is apparently a K-State grad. He directed the band tonight for the national anthem and alma mater, I wish we had him. The band needs fresh blood and ideas. Dude got his building now, he should go chill on a beach somewhere.
Looked up who this is. He was the drum major my freshman year and a great dude. I sat next to him in an ensemble that fall. He was extremely intense, driven, and hard working. Would love to see him lead the band when Tracz retires.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2023, 01:42:30 PM
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Don't want to talk about the game. It's well documented the 3 or 4 plays that we blew that cost us the game.
So I'm going to redirect my anger at the band. But if you want to talk about a talent gap, my goodness. Kstate band = loud, playing when appropriate (on D, not O). Our Band = quiet, predictable. Do they just have a 20 song list and go in order, no matter the game situation?
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 19, 2023, 01:51:02 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 19, 2023, 01:51:04 PM
Our Band - Not Good
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Don't want to talk about the game. It's well documented the 3 or 4 plays that we blew that cost us the game.
So I'm going to redirect my anger at the band. But if you want to talk about a talent gap, my goodness. Kstate band = loud, playing when appropriate (on D, not O). Our Band = quiet, predictable. Do they just have a 20 song list and go in order, no matter the game situation?
Like, I know we definitely "show up" more vs ku, but since this was brought up ITT and we're being honest, ku's band is pretty meh. That is a pretty spot on observation I have experienced in every ku-kstate game I've ever been to. Ku's band sounds tired and honestly disinterested in even being there.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 19, 2023, 08:42:50 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 19, 2023, 09:04:32 PM
Post by: nicname on November 19, 2023, 09:07:10 PM
Probably tired of the jock jams blasting at an 11, at every stage stoppage of play in football and basketball
Don’t forget the jawk rawk
Post by: waks on November 19, 2023, 11:10:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2023, 05:03:44 AM
Is it normal for the opposing team's band to get to play on the field during halftime? First time I've ever seen that. Seemed strange. The KU fans booed our band relentlessly.Yes
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 20, 2023, 09:42:05 AM
Is it normal for the opposing team's band to get to play on the field during halftime? First time I've ever seen that. Seemed strange. The KU fans booed our band relentlessly.
They do this for every Sunflower Showdown. For our band its the only road game the school pays for the entire band to attend. It's the same for KU.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2023, 09:48:45 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2023, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 20, 2023, 10:31:05 AM
Yeah, I've remembered even ISU brought their bank to MHK a while back, probably has become a cost no one wants to pay for anymorethe aTm band used to come to MHK, IIRC. They did some cool turns with their bass drums. Haven't seen any visiting bands outside of KU for a while.
Post by: MadCat on November 20, 2023, 10:31:47 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 20, 2023, 10:44:46 AM
Yeah, I've remembered even ISU brought their bank to MHK a while back, probably has become a cost no one wants to pay for anymorethe aTm band used to come to MHK, IIRC. They did some cool turns with their bass drums. Haven't seen any visiting bands outside of KU for a while.
I bet aTm still sends their band everywhere. Nobody ever wants to cut defense spending.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2023, 12:07:06 PM
Yeah, I've remembered even ISU brought their bank to MHK a while back, probably has become a cost no one wants to pay for anymorethe aTm band used to come to MHK, IIRC. They did some cool turns with their bass drums. Haven't seen any visiting bands outside of KU for a while.
I bet aTm still sends their band everywhere. Nobody ever wants to cut defense spending.
Maybe since they're in the SEC, but they stopped bringing their full band here even before they left the Big 12
Post by: DQ12 on November 20, 2023, 12:09:40 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 20, 2023, 12:13:55 PM
Yeah, I've remembered even ISU brought their bank to MHK a while back, probably has become a cost no one wants to pay for anymorethe aTm band used to come to MHK, IIRC. They did some cool turns with their bass drums. Haven't seen any visiting bands outside of KU for a while.
True story: it's free for KU to send the band to KSU. The members all carpool and smoke doobies on the trek down I-70.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2023, 12:17:27 PM
Yeah, I've remembered even ISU brought their bank to MHK a while back, probably has become a cost no one wants to pay for anymorethe aTm band used to come to MHK, IIRC. They did some cool turns with their bass drums. Haven't seen any visiting bands outside of KU for a while.
True story: it's free for KU to send the band to KSU. The members all carpool and smoke doobies on the trek down I-70.
That sounds awesome
Post by: mocat on November 20, 2023, 12:25:16 PM
Nebraska's band played Single Ladies as their last song at BSFS before leaving the conference. They got lots of boos from our crowd.
that must have stung at the time. pretty lol now.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2023, 01:08:25 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 28, 2023, 06:37:19 PM