goemaw.com
TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: 'taterblast on December 09, 2020, 08:59:42 AM
-
i honestly have no idea because i pay no attention to college basketball
but let's discuss IRL candidates. HBCIQ only.
-
Chester Frazier.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
small school HC or big school hot assistant?
-
Chester Frazier.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Before you all attack me, our off the ball defense has gotten significantly worse since he left. And he seems to really care about guard development
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
feels kinda Brucey, Greg
-
feels kinda Brucey, Greg
I mean he has success and had enough draw with recruiting to get guys to follow him after he left. I don’t know anymore and my mind is a blur. I had a dream last night I was AD having to deal with all of our angry fans and I think i have PTSD
-
seeing this guy mentioned a lot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jans)
However, on March 21—shortly after losing to Canisius in the 2nd round of the 2015 CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament, a drunken Jans was seen engaging in lewd and inappropriate behavior toward women at a bar near campus. A Bowling Green alumnus recorded Jans on his cell phone, and was so outraged by what he saw that he reported the incident to school officials.[2] Following an internal investigation, Bowling Green fired Jans for violating a morals clause in his contract.
:love:
-
Craig Smith
-
don't even care
-
don't even care
This is the correct answer. Anyone that would get me excited is likely unattainable, so who cares. We're not firing oscar this year.
-
don't even care
This is the correct answer. Anyone that would get me excited is likely unattainable, so who cares. We're not firing oscar this year.
we gave up on basketball when we hired oscar
-
What about Kelvin Sampson?
He's kind of the Huggiest hire amirite?
-
seeing this guy mentioned a lot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jans)
However, on March 21—shortly after losing to Canisius in the 2nd round of the 2015 CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament, a drunken Jans was seen engaging in lewd and inappropriate behavior toward women at a bar near campus. A Bowling Green alumnus recorded Jans on his cell phone, and was so outraged by what he saw that he reported the incident to school officials.[2] Following an internal investigation, Bowling Green fired Jans for violating a morals clause in his contract.
:love:
I'd heard his name often but didn't know that story. Only making $290k right now. Might be the best option financially.
-
What about Kelvin Sampson?
He's kind of the Huggiest hire amirite?
oscar really made all of you stop following basketball in general, I don’t think I realized the depth of it.
-
I have completely given up. I've been ground in to dust. I truly don't care.
-
What about Kelvin Sampson?
He's kind of the Huggiest hire amirite?
oscar really made all of you stop following basketball in general, I don’t think I realized the depth of it.
It's pretty amazing.
-
My shirt tuck buddy is making the case for Alford
-
What about Kelvin Sampson?
He's kind of the Huggiest hire amirite?
Kelvin is just the type of renegade, bend the rules hc needed to bring cat hoops back to prominence. He's 65 years old tho.
Someone who knows (because I have no clue) needs to compile a dossier of renegade hc types stat. Guys with show cause, whatever. Gimme goddamn Jerry Tarkanian.
-
The thing about Kelvin is that he is employed and makes more than oscar
-
The thing about Kelvin is that he is employed and makes more than oscar
Wild. Is oscar just super cheap?
-
What year did we win the conference?
-
What year did we win the conference?
Do you mean 2013 or 2019?
I honestly don't mind the ups and downs. And very much prefer it to being good but not great every year.
-
The thing about Kelvin is that he is employed and makes more than oscar
canco that nobody gaf about UofH sports at all, which i think maybe allows him to fly under the radar? like nobody is really paying that close of attention beyond "oh the coogs are ranked in the top 10? huh that's neat" On the one hand its like nobody cares and nobody comes to games, on the other hand if nobody cares you can probably get away with stuff a lot more easily. i dunno.
-
What year did we win the conference?
Do you mean 2013 or 2019?
I honestly don't mind the ups and downs. And very much prefer it to being good but not great every year.
2019? Really? I would have guessed at least 3 seasons ago
-
The thing about Kelvin is that he is employed and makes more than oscar
Wild. Is oscar just super cheap?
Houston is paying him 3MM a year which is good for around top 25 and oscar I think is making 2.7 or 2.8 so it’s not a huge difference but I’m sure we would have to pay him 4 or more to inherit our mess and he’s also 65.
-
Let's go Pearl diving:
https://auburntigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/steven-pearl/3385
(https://auburntigers.com/images/2020/12/8/Steven_Pearl_headshot_20201029_SL1_1053A_JPEG_edited_8x11.JPG?width=300)
-
Let's go Pearl diving:
https://auburntigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/steven-pearl/3385
(https://auburntigers.com/images/2020/12/8/Steven_Pearl_headshot_20201029_SL1_1053A_JPEG_edited_8x11.JPG?width=300)
More like necklace shopping :fatty:
-
What year did we win the conference?
Do you mean 2013 or 2019?
I honestly don't mind the ups and downs. And very much prefer it to being good but not great every year.
2019? Really? I would have guessed at least 3 seasons ago
Just 1.5 seasons ago we were smashing Oklahoma by 15 on senior night. Pretty wild.
-
What year did we win the conference?
Do you mean 2013 or 2019?
I honestly don't mind the ups and downs. And very much prefer it to being good but not great every year.
I mean, sure, but maybe the downs could be a little less downy and not consist of losing to HS teams at home?
-
I agree with most of what's in this thread already, but I think it's important to note that oscar's replacement will not be oscar, so therefore it will be an improvement. I say that not because I predict more wins and fewer losses, but because of the hatred that I have for oscar and the absence of that hatred for whomever his replacement will be. I should also note that I don't plan to watch any games (I haven't in years) unless we get good. So, it's entirely possible I never watch a game let by our next coach, unless KK takes me to the game and lets me sit in the second row at half court again (only game i have been to in 5 years). I suppose I am most concerned about getting rid of oscar, and who our coach is 2 coaches from now.
-
don't even care
This is the correct answer. Anyone that would get me excited is likely unattainable, so who cares. We're not firing oscar this year.
we gave up on basketball when we hired oscar
yeah, this is my thing too. I don't even really know what it is about him other than him sucking (that might be it). I will say that I was never really a BB fan anyway, but he has really just sucked whatever I had out of me. Feel bad for my kid though. He loves it and I never even think to turn on the games.
-
Isn't there an AI program we can purchase to take care of this? Can't we do that and buy all the players iPads or something?
-
What about Kelvin Sampson?
He's kind of the Huggiest hire amirite?
Kelvin is just the type of renegade, bend the rules hc needed to bring cat hoops back to prominence. He's 65 years old tho.
Someone who knows (because I have no clue) needs to compile a dossier of renegade hc types stat. Guys with show cause, whatever. Gimme goddamn Jerry Tarkanian.
It was some extra phone calls, that's it, that's the story.
FWIW, Huggins never had NCAA issues either.
Kelvin is the best suggestion, by far, but other than being a successful head basketball coach, there are no further parallels between the two of them.
-
Porter Moser anyone?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Has Texas fired shaka yet? I would hire him
-
Craig Smith
Best suggestion.
-
Has Texas fired shaka yet? I would hire him
His best conference finish EVER, is 3rd. It won't matter tho. They're good this year.
-
100% fact is that the replacement will be a friend or actual relative of Gene so look at who his friends are, pick the bets one.
In the tradition of Snyder and Wefald, he will absolutely make himself and his friends wealthy off of KSU because he's old as crap and this is his last stop. He is going to Les Miles our faces off.
-
Steve Alford could be fun guys, Why not him?
-
Steve Alford could be fun guys, Why not him?
I hate him so that doesn't help.
-
Steve Alford could be fun guys, Why not him?
I hate him so that doesn't help.
Sorry chings, but just think on it ok?
-
I know he's had some pretty severe discipline problems in the past and his tournament resume could be better, but I think Bill self could be very successful in Manhattan under the watchful eye of taytay.
-
Steve Alford could be fun guys, Why not him?
GTFO
-
Steve Alford could be fun guys, Why not him?
GTFO
LMAO
-
I know he's had some pretty severe discipline problems in the past and his tournament resume could be better, but I think Bill self could be very successful in Manhattan under the watchful eye of taytay.
self is an interesting name to have surfaced. Ultimately i'm not sure he would be worth the risk because i think the long term damage he could cause to the image of our program might outweigh the immediate on-court success.
-
I think Self is a victim of circumstances more than anything else. That program has always been a cess pool, he probably hates having to run such a dirty team.
-
(https://mwwire.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2018/03/smith.jpeg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
-
Yessir
-
Yessir
I think it looks good? IDK...
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/724x452q90/r/924/AysRos.jpg)
-
He’s our man, go get him Gene.
-
Greg Marshall is available and loves our state
-
Yessir
I think it looks good? IDK...
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/724x452q90/r/924/AysRos.jpg)
i'm on board, let's do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEohiYpP_o[/youtube]
-
Greg Marshall is available and loves our state
No better place to rehab your image than The University of Kansas State
-
Yessir
I think it looks good? IDK...
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/724x452q90/r/924/AysRos.jpg)
i'm on board, let's do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEohiYpP_o[/youtube]
I watched this and looked at his wikipedia page and sure I'm in. Everyone looks amazing compared to oscar. He's making $700,000. Quadruple that and let's go. #CraigSmith4KSU
-
fwiw Mean Gene was with him at NDSU 01-04 so they might be buds
-
fwiw Mean Gene was with him at NDSU 01-04 so they might be buds
I don't think the connection can hurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fxibMJ8Ueo&t=122s
-
fwiw Mean Gene was with him at NDSU 01-04 so they might be buds
:horrorsurprise: :drool:
-
Frank Martin
-
JTIII?
-
I wonder if instead of expecting Tim Floyd and getting Wooly we sort of do the opposite and expect Craig Smith and end up with Tim Miles
-
Frank Martin
Kick rocks!
-
I wonder if instead of expecting Tim Floyd and getting Wooly we sort of do the opposite and expect Craig Smith and end up with Tim Miles
Gene can get mumped if he hires Tim Miles
-
I wonder if instead of expecting Tim Floyd and getting Wooly we sort of do the opposite and expect Craig Smith and end up with Tim Miles
Gene can get mumped if he hires Tim Miles
oscar to Tim is definitely a smaller leap in the wrong direction than Frank to oscar
but I agree, sort of. because who really cares enough to have a strong opinion about KSU hoops
-
keeping weber and rooting for him to fail sounds like more fun than any of these options, tbh.
-
might as well just hire kim english now (https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38926.msg1689772#msg1689772)
-
I mean, it's probably about 97% chance that oscar is still coaching the Cats for the next 2-3 years at least. Right?
-
keeping weber and rooting for him to fail sounds like more fun than any of these options, tbh.
You're in luck!
-
I mean, it's probably about 97% chance that oscar is still coaching the Cats for the next 2-3 years at least. Right?
yes, absolutely. People pretending otherwise is strange. I mean, could it happen? Like, yeah, 3% isn't zero, but we can say with a bunch of confidence that nothing he does this year can get him fired.
-
Learning that there is an incredibly small time weird looking guy from NDSU out there gives me hope now
-
we need to bring back BRAD KORN!
-
Kim English!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
I mean, it's probably about 97% chance that oscar is still coaching the Cats for the next 2-3 years at least. Right?
yes, absolutely. People pretending otherwise is strange. I mean, could it happen? Like, yeah, 3% isn't zero, but we can say with a bunch of confidence that nothing he does this year can get him fired.
Whether the administration is willing to take action or not is immaterial. We should all be calling for oscar’s head.
-
He’s getting fired, feel free to mercilessly bump this in March if he doesn’t. I will certainly be bumping it when he does.
-
Maybe oscar will fire us.
-
He’s got two million reasons not to but maybe
-
Yessir
I think it looks good? IDK...
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/724x452q90/r/924/AysRos.jpg)
i'm on board, let's do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEohiYpP_o[/youtube]
I watched this and looked at his wikipedia page and sure I'm in. Everyone looks amazing compared to oscar. He's making $700,000. Quadruple that and let's go. #CraigSmith4KSU
I want him so bad
-
K-STATE BASKETBALL
(https://cdn.costumewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/uncle-fester.jpg)
-
Festerball
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
The Flush. He did a great job coahing us up in 18 and 19 (and I'm only half joking).
-
keeping weber and rooting for him to fail sounds like more fun than any of these options, tbh.
At some point, everything needs to culminate into a climax where Weber is crying at a press conference a day or 2 after he gets shitcanned. Otherwise, the joy found in rooting for him to lose will be fleeting.
-
I don't like any of our options. Keeping oscar rough ridin' sucks, the vast majority of the coaches mentioned in this thread rough ridin' suck, and our AD won't have the nuts to go after the ones that don't. Existence is suffering. Especially if you're a K-State basketball fan.
-
My favorite talking point is Kelvin Sampson's age, like oscar isn't 64 years old or something.
-
My favorite talking point is Kelvin Sampson's age, like oscar isn't 64 years old or something.
I would do horrible things if it meant we could have Kelvin Sampson as our basketball coach. Anybody hedging about him is rough ridin' stupid. We would be lucky to have him, but our AD doesn't have the balls to go out and get a guy like him. Prove me wrong, Gene! You rough ridin' hill person!
-
whoever can recruit and motivate players and then hold their people accountable to making those players stay motivated and whatnot. there are no Xs and Os in basketball. coach K knows nothing about basketball plays and strategies that coach oscar doesn't know.
-
The thing is, you can't get rid of oscar and then take a gamble on some unknown commodity who very well might (and probably will) be less successful. You'd need a slam dunk. Not a lot of options there.
-
The thing is, you can't get rid of oscar and then take a gamble on some unknown commodity who very well might (and probably will) be less successful. You'd need a slam dunk. Not a lot of options there.
This is why Illini fans were so sad for us. It's so hard to fire oscar Weber. And having him as your coach just isn't very much fun.
-
The thing is, you can't get rid of oscar and then take a gamble on some unknown commodity who very well might (and probably will) be less successful. You'd need a slam dunk. Not a lot of options there.
I would greatly prefer an unknown commodity at this point
-
I agree with most of what's in this thread already, but I think it's important to note that oscar's replacement will not be oscar, so therefore it will be an improvement. I say that not because I predict more wins and fewer losses, but because of the hatred that I have for oscar and the absence of that hatred for whomever his replacement will be. I should also note that I don't plan to watch any games (I haven't in years) unless we get good. So, it's entirely possible I never watch a game let by our next coach, unless KK takes me to the game and lets me sit in the second row at half court again (only game i have been to in 5 years). I suppose I am most concerned about getting rid of oscar, and who our coach is 2 coaches from now.
This is an excellent post. Firing oscar is life. The rest is just details.
-
does seth LittreLL know anything about basketball?
-
whoever can recruit and motivate players and then hold their people accountable to making those players stay motivated and whatnot. there are no Xs and Os in basketball. coach K knows nothing about basketball plays and strategies that coach oscar doesn't know.
I heard fort Hays's coach wasn't even in the building. Just get good players and let them play
-
Sonny Vaccaro or someone of that ilk.
-
K-STATE BASKETBALL
(https://cdn.costumewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/uncle-fester.jpg)
i lol'd
-
Sonny Vaccaro or someone of that ilk.
Isn't he in federal prison? His availability may be limited.
-
Sonny Vaccaro or someone of that ilk.
Isn't he in federal prison? His availability may be limited.
lol, naw man, he didn't break any laws
-
With the mainstreaming of video conference technology, there has never been a better time to hire an incarcerated coach.
-
Time for a virtual coach?
-
whoever can recruit and motivate players and then hold their people accountable to making those players stay motivated and whatnot. there are no Xs and Os in basketball. coach K knows nothing about basketball plays and strategies that coach oscar doesn't know.
Coach K doesn't even know how to draw plays on a rough ridin' whiteboard! There are millions of high school coaches that know more x's and o's than coach k!
-
Time for a virtual coach?
Have you seen how far hologram technology has come the last few years? :eek:
-
Instead of spending millions on salary each year, we could just purchase a robot coach. Same robot could do double duty and also coach football.
-
Time for a virtual coach?
Have you seen how far hologram technology has come the last few years? :eek:
That Tupac hologram would probably recruit his ass off.
-
K-STATE BASKETBALL
(https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Cue-3-robot-aims.jpg)
-
That robot coach is also equipped with "anonymous" data purchased from big tech used to manipulate recruits into signing
-
"Other schools want you to be a power forward. I will make you a point guard because I know that's what you really want. Also, would you like to purchase this kitchen towel?"
"How did you know!?!?"
-
Instead of spending millions on salary each year, we could just purchase a robot coach. Same robot could do double duty and also coach football.
How many ugly robots are made in North Dakota in a given year?
-
https://www.ndsu.edu/coe/future_students/robotics/
We might have to accept a robot coach that looks more like a small remote control car made of legos than C3PO but, I am not against it.
-
Lowery
-
Lowery would just hire oscar as his asst.
-
Steve Prohm
-
things are that bad, Havs?
-
things are that bad, Havs?
We shall see tomorrow night!
-
someone post the doc camaro jpg
-
We should fire oscar at the end of the season, footage of him leaving in disgrace runs on the news all that night and into the next day. AD announces desire for a quick coaching search, hires a head hunter that always gets his man. Less than two weeks later, there's rumors that kstate got their guy. At the press conference to announce new coach, everyone's on the edge of their seat, who is it going to be? To the tune of gasps and women fainting in the aisles, mother rough ridin' oscar Weber strides onto the stage, grabs the mic, winks at Kellis and coyly says to the room, "Did you miss me?" It's pandemonium. Has anybody ever fired a coach and then rehired them in the same off-season? Kstate is hailed as an innovator. oscar is received as a hero. Gene immediately begins talks with international artists to see who can truly capture the essence of oscar when creating a statue. It's good to be a cat.
-
someone post the doc camaro jpg
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/603x452q90/r/216/doc2on3.jpg)
-
someone post the doc camaro jpg
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/603x452q90/r/216/doc2on3.jpg)
I'll never stop loving this thing.
-
Should we be tabbing BRAD KORN to replace Klieman???? :dunno:
-
I haven't paid a bit of attention to college basketball since KSU became irrelevant to it and thus I have absolutely no idea what's out there that could make it relevant again.
Selfishly, I'd like it to be Jalen Rose or Erik Pastrana.
-
Does taterblast not know what "IRL" means?
-
Does taterblast not know what "IRL" means?
lol, clearly not.
-
Is this a discussion of who should or who will?
-
Hard to say. The title says should, but it also says IRL, so it’s a bit of an unreliable source.
-
I’m against irl discussion of who should replace oscar until enough of us are chip’d.
That could be a Pit poll - will oscar last long enough for it to be safe for us to pak and discuss who should replace him?
-
Does taterblast not know what "IRL" means?
alright fine, Tim Miles
-
I have antibodies so I’m up for an IRL discussion. Let me know where to be.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Is this a discussion of who should or who will?
Should for sure
-
I have antibodies so I’m up for an IRL discussion. Let me know where to be.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Word bro.
-
2 g’s
Wait... is it 3 g’s?
-
No G’s
-
McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.
I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.
Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.
-
Does he have another son to help jumpstart it here?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Does he have another son to help jumpstart it here?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No, but he also at least goes out and finds impact transfers.
We all know Foster, but his current team has key transfers from New Mexico, SE Mo St, Memphis and Duke plus several top 150 recruits he brought in.
-
McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.
I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.
Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.
apparently ncaa is investigating him tho which means we won't touch him
-
McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.
I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.
Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.
apparently ncaa is investigating him tho which means we won't touch him
True, not sure how serious it is, seems fairly minor compared to the rest of these.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30262819/your-guide-college-basketball-ongoing-ncaa-investigations
-
McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.
I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.
Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.
apparently ncaa is investigating him tho which means we won't touch him
True, not sure how serious it is, seems fairly minor compared to the rest of these.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30262819/your-guide-college-basketball-ongoing-ncaa-investigations
I'd be okay with McDermott but I don't buy the rumor because I don't think we can afford him. I have serious questions about his reported salary being his actual salary. As you know Creighton sits does not have to disclose his salary. I refuse to believe a program that has had that much success with that much revenue would only pay their coach $1.1 million, he would be the lowest paid coach in a high major program, by far.
He also made a big deal about turning down the Ohio State job two years ago, if he actually did so.
If he does leave Creighton it will probably be because of the sanctions. I'm certain it's because of legal reasons why they espn didn't put it in but Creighton and that assistant are rumored to have been involved in direct payments to players.
-
Man i've been out of the loop with CBB. Did not realize how he had been lately. My initial thought was it would not be fun to have an ISU castoff in fball and bball :frown:
-
If he does leave Creighton it will probably be because of the sanctions. I'm certain it's because of legal reasons why they espn didn't put it in but Creighton and that assistant are rumored to have been involved in direct payments to players.
Yeah, they're cheating their balls off up there:
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1047947300180557824
-
This isn’t UT’s first rodeo
-
Drake coach
-
Brad Stevens?
-
Brad Stevens?
omg yes
-
I think maybe I understand what taterblast meant by IRL.
-
IRL = not ge'ing
-
I don't follow the NBA much. Is he really going to get crap canned this year? Wouldn't another NBA team take him before he considered college bball again?
-
I don't follow the NBA much. Is he really going to get crap canned this year? Wouldn't another NBA team take him before he considered college bball again?
Stevens would be able to find another NBA job, probably without even sitting out a year, or he could get just about any open non-blue blood college job he wanted. And he'd probably be in the running for a blue blood opening (look at who UCLA hired the last two rounds)
-
I don't follow the NBA much. Is he really going to get crap canned this year? Wouldn't another NBA team take him before he considered college bball again?
Stevens would be able to find another NBA job, probably without even sitting out a year, or he could get just about any open non-blue blood college job he wanted. And he'd probably be in the running for a blue blood opening (look at who UCLA hired the last two rounds)
First thing I found was Indiana fans saying they would want him.
I had no idea just how shitty Archie Miller has been there. Genuinely thought he was a decent hire.
-
I don't follow the NBA much. Is he really going to get crap canned this year? Wouldn't another NBA team take him before he considered college bball again?
Stevens would be able to find another NBA job, probably without even sitting out a year, or he could get just about any open non-blue blood college job he wanted. And he'd probably be in the running for a blue blood opening (look at who UCLA hired the last two rounds)
First thing I found was Indiana fans saying they would want him.
I had no idea just how shitty Archie Miller has been there. Genuinely thought he was a decent hire.
yeah they would take him in a heartbeat.
But if Stevens were smart he'd take over a winner at the college level (good program where a coach retires or goes to the NBA or something)
-
i think brad stevens would be smart to consider a change of pace and just drive uber for a couple of years
-
Brad Stevens should open up a barbershop and give every customer the Brad Stevens haircut.
-
he could also run a little diner from the back of his barbershop with only one thing on the menu, the Brad Stevens Burger
make that two things on the menu, he should have Brad Stevens Pale Ale as well to wash down the Brad Stevens Burger with
-
for those well heeled folks who like the finer things in life, you should opt for the Bradley Stevens Burger, it comes on a brioche bun
-
Hell yeah, brioche rules.
-
Brad Stevens is more likely to be coaching at KU next year than KSU.
Also yes on brioche buns. Once you start using those for burger night it's hard to go back to the plain Kroger brand buns.
-
I seriously wonder what a Martin Scorsese caliber director could do with a leading man like Brad Stevens.
-
Stevens, Brad Stevens. The only way I could forgive him is if he came back and made it right.
Do the right thing, Brad Stevens.
-
Enough with the fired coaches already eff.
-
Is there another Eric Musselman out there?
-
Brad Stevens is more likely to be coaching at KU next year than KSU.
This got me to thinking who is less likely to return as HC, oscar or Bill?
-
We should hire Bill Self.
-
We should hire Bill Self.
(https://i.imgflip.com/4ye5w2.jpg)
-
cross mcdermott off the list
-
seriously, how oblivious are some of these people...i'm reading the headline thinking "what did these sjws overreact to now" and the find out he basically went ashley schaffer at black biker week...
-
I'm certain there are lots of people screaming about cancel culture and the first amendment, even though homeboy told on himself. Good on him for apologizing and being open about what he said, it was a really stupid analogy.
“Guys, we got to stick together. We need both feet in. I need everybody to stay on the plantation. I can’t have anybody leave the plantation.”
-
I'm certain there are lots of people screaming about cancel culture and the first amendment, even though homeboy told on himself. Good on him for apologizing and being open about what he said, it was a really stupid analogy.
“Guys, we got to stick together. We need both feet in. I need everybody to stay on the plantation. I can’t have anybody leave the plantation.”
i mean i guess good for him for apologizing, but what in the eff was he talking about in the first place? that's not a common analogy that i've ever heard. there's "off the reservation" but that means something else.
-
I'm certain there are lots of people screaming about cancel culture and the first amendment, even though homeboy told on himself. Good on him for apologizing and being open about what he said, it was a really stupid analogy.
“Guys, we got to stick together. We need both feet in. I need everybody to stay on the plantation. I can’t have anybody leave the plantation.”
Nobody is literally screaming that. That's absurd!
-
I'm certain there are lots of people screaming about cancel culture and the first amendment, even though homeboy told on himself. Good on him for apologizing and being open about what he said, it was a really stupid analogy.
“Guys, we got to stick together. We need both feet in. I need everybody to stay on the plantation. I can’t have anybody leave the plantation.”
Nobody is literally screaming that. That's absurd!
I'm judicious about use of the word literally, you should be as well.
-
Good work, MIR! You’re on an impressive streak. I honestly love it. :love:
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
Not to mention his kid is a top 100 recruit. That certainly adds another dynamic.
Sounds like he most certainly is on the short list for Iowa State.
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
Not to mention his kid is a top 100 recruit. That certainly adds another dynamic.
Sounds like he most certainly is on the short list for Iowa State.
I will be shocked if they fire Prohm, dude has an $8 million buyout, that's insane. That and Mr. Potato Head Man has a tendency to hold on to coaches one year too late as opposed to firing them one year too early, well that's everyone but Wayne Morgan.
Speaking of Wayne Morgan, I rough ridin' hate college athletic directors. This is shameful
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/wayne-morgan-1.html
-
It’s really weird that he got that ISU job after I assume being fired at Long Beach, but wild that he didn’t get another shot
-
Morgan had one good year at Long Beach State and probably didn't deserve the Iowa State head coaching job. But, Larry E. came along and did his Big 12 campus partying tour thing and then Morgan became the coach. I don't remember, but I'm guessing elevating Morgan was a "keep the program together" type of move after what Larry did?
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
Not to mention his kid is a top 100 recruit. That certainly adds another dynamic.
Sounds like he most certainly is on the short list for Iowa State.
I will be shocked if they fire Prohm, dude has an $8 million buyout, that's insane. That and Mr. Potato Head Man has a tendency to hold on to coaches one year too late as opposed to firing them one year too early, well that's everyone but Wayne Morgan.
Speaking of Wayne Morgan, I rough ridin' hate college athletic directors. This is shameful
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/wayne-morgan-1.html
I dunno, man. I've been hearing that he's pretty much gone. Huge buyout or not. He's making an insane amount of money for the results he's not managed to get.
-
Not sure what happened to the thread with the David Richman discussion, but the next coach of the Kansas State Wildcats has his team in the Summit League Championship game on, ESPN2, again, but it doesn't look like they're going to pull this one out.
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
Not to mention his kid is a top 100 recruit. That certainly adds another dynamic.
Sounds like he most certainly is on the short list for Iowa State.
I will be shocked if they fire Prohm, dude has an $8 million buyout, that's insane. That and Mr. Potato Head Man has a tendency to hold on to coaches one year too late as opposed to firing them one year too early, well that's everyone but Wayne Morgan.
Speaking of Wayne Morgan, I rough ridin' hate college athletic directors. This is shameful
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/wayne-morgan-1.html
I dunno, man. I've been hearing that he's pretty much gone. Huge buyout or not. He's making an insane amount of money for the results he's not managed to get.
I my money is on TJ O (Runnin’ Rebels HC) coming back for that opening. Unless of course he does what Iowa State does best, win the tourna... nevermind.
Going to “scout” little DeVries Thursday night. I’ll find Darrien and ask if Gene has called yet.
-
I've changed my mind on Darren Devries. That dude has a more athletic roster at Drake than we do at K-State.
Not to mention his kid is a top 100 recruit. That certainly adds another dynamic.
Sounds like he most certainly is on the short list for Iowa State.
I will be shocked if they fire Prohm, dude has an $8 million buyout, that's insane. That and Mr. Potato Head Man has a tendency to hold on to coaches one year too late as opposed to firing them one year too early, well that's everyone but Wayne Morgan.
Speaking of Wayne Morgan, I rough ridin' hate college athletic directors. This is shameful
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/wayne-morgan-1.html
I dunno, man. I've been hearing that he's pretty much gone. Huge buyout or not. He's making an insane amount of money for the results he's not managed to get.
I my money is on TJ O (Runnin’ Rebels HC) coming back for that opening. Unless of course he does what Iowa State does best, win the tourna... nevermind.
Going to “scout” little DeVries Thursday night. I’ll find Darrien and ask if Gene has called yet.
Are you going down to the tournament?
-
A whole lot of schools somehow managed to find a lot of buyouts today. It's almost as if finding the money for buyouts isn't a big deal for high major programs, pandemic or not. I'm also sure not a single academic donor at Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa State had any problem at all with athletic departments spending athletic department money to remove an employee deemed ineffective.
-
Apparently the IU buyout was financed by a single donor and the new coach money by one more
-
Apparently the IU buyout was financed by a single donor and the new coach money by one more
Yeah, something isn't adding up with this right now.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2021/03/15/archie-miller-fired-how-iu-paying-his-buyout-indiana-hoosiers-coach/4704686001/
This article lays out how the buyouts are being paid, but this sentence by the AD is in there.
During his press conference, Dolson indicated that two boosters are involved; one handling the $10 million buyout, the other the cost of replacing Miller. He would not name the boosters. Dolson also said. "I was not approached by donors. It was not an anti-Archie effort."
Like what? Is he saying that he made the decision to fire Archie, then asked donors for money? If the decision to fire Archie was already made, why would you, as a donor, spend $10 million?
-
Imagine having the $$ to pay $10mm to get rid of a coach you hate.
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
-
Indiana's actions are all almost certainly related to the fact that Illinois got a one seed.
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
Oh I don't doubt that the average Indiana fan thinks that way but I'm talking about one person dropping $10 million. Jesus. At least call up some of your other rich petty friends and have them chip in.
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
Oh I don't doubt that the average Indiana fan thinks that way but I'm talking about one person dropping $10 million. Jesus. At least call up some of your other rich petty friends and have them chip in.
You realize Mark Cuban is one of these dudes right?
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
Oh I don't doubt that the average Indiana fan thinks that way but I'm talking about one person dropping $10 million. Jesus. At least call up some of your other rich petty friends and have them chip in.
You realize Mark Cuban is one of these dudes right?
I actually completely forgot about that. Did the AD out Mark Cuban on calling him and letting him know that he has the money for the buyout if the AD pulls the trigger?
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
Oh I don't doubt that the average Indiana fan thinks that way but I'm talking about one person dropping $10 million. Jesus. At least call up some of your other rich petty friends and have them chip in.
You realize Mark Cuban is one of these dudes right?
I actually completely forgot about that. Did the AD out Mark Cuban on calling him and letting him know that he has the money for the buyout if the AD pulls the trigger?
I think he went to twitter and said “Mark Cuban told me to fire Archie Miller’s ass and if I don’t want to then it will be my ass that is fired”
-
A whole lot of schools somehow managed to find a lot of buyouts today. It's almost as if finding the money for buyouts isn't a big deal for high major programs, pandemic or not. I'm also sure not a single academic donor at Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa State had any problem at all with athletic departments spending athletic department money to remove an employee deemed ineffective.
i'm sure this is false. maybe if you restrict it to mega-donors, but even that's no guarantee.
-
This is how they wasted all of that buyout $! :lol:
https://twitter.com/bysamgordon/status/1371982029567324160?s=21
-
A whole lot of schools somehow managed to find a lot of buyouts today. It's almost as if finding the money for buyouts isn't a big deal for high major programs, pandemic or not. I'm also sure not a single academic donor at Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa State had any problem at all with athletic departments spending athletic department money to remove an employee deemed ineffective.
i'm sure this is false. maybe if you restrict it to mega-donors, but even that's no guarantee.
I was being sarcastic. I have been forever perturbed when athletic directors float that they can't fire basketball or football coaches because of their buyouts. This college basketball and college football off season should forever bust that narrative but people are largely stupid and lazy so we'll have to keep hearing it. I don't think it was Gene and his crew that floated this, I think it was pro oscar message board fans, but it was out there that they couldn't fire oscar because academic donors would be mad, which whether that was accurate or not, was the dumbest thing I've heard this basketball season.
-
This is how they wasted all of that buyout $! :lol:
https://twitter.com/bysamgordon/status/1371982029567324160?s=21
TBF, the buyout money wasn't about who they brought in but who they ran off, Prohm clearly wasn't the answer. Iowa sports fans, more than any other college sports fans I've ever seen, want someone they consider one of them and they think that of Otzelberger and they are over-the-moon happy with the hire. He's far more popular with them than whomever we eventually replace oscar with will be with us.
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
A lot of it is basketball in general. The wife's extended family is right in the middle of this: Half are IU alums, several live in Bloomington (nice place actually, not at all like Lawrence as you might expect it to be). Parents live a stones throw from French Lick (although Larry went to ISU). Their hometown was one of those that could wrap themselves in the glow of Hoosiers - they made it to Indy a couple times as what would be a 1A school in Kansas and did win it all after Indiana went to a classification system. Their HS league is the "Blue Chip League" for crying out loud.
The other half are Purdue alums - except the wife, she went to ISU.
You don't see a lot of driveway hoops setups anymore around Kansas; they are still everywhere out there.
-
STEVE
-
Yeah, what’s up
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-07/23/16/enhanced/webdr15/anigif_original-22400-1437684401-4.gif)
-
hm?
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
They had some success in 2002 when they made it to the national championship game :dunno:
-
Your life has probably been interesting if you managed to acquire both that level of wealth and pettiness.
Have you spoken to Indiana basketball fans? This isn't pettiness at all, they think being elite at basketball is a birthright. Never mind they only had success with one coach and that peaked 40 years ago, and college athletics is very different.
They had some success in 2002 when they made it to the national championship game :dunno:
They lost 12 games that year
-
Imagine having the $$ to pay $10mm to get rid of a coach you hate.
An all-time fantasy of mine.
-
Imagine having the $$ to pay $10mm to get rid of a coach you hate.
An all-time fantasy of mine.
Yeah if I had the money, I'd make KSU sports amazing.
-
i'd buy a big cow farm.
-
I'd buy sys a big cow farm
-
If I was a cow would be Very Very concerned.
-
Chris Mack?
-
I’d rather give it to someone not recently fired for failing at their job but we could probably do worse
-
Eh, no thanks. I realize that most of the names were throwing out are successes at mid majors at a much smaller scale than Mack was at Xavier, but those other guys haven't been proven losers at top 10ish program. Bear in mind not only has be been crap, but he also is facing sanctions for cheating at Louisville. He was cheating but still losing.
-
Eh, no thanks. I realize that most of the names were throwing out are successes at mid majors at a much smaller scale than Mack was at Xavier, but those other guys haven't been proven losers at top 10ish program. Bear in mind not only has be been crap, but he also is facing sanctions for cheating at Louisville. He was cheating but still losing.
when did he do all of this losing other than the last three weeks? not saying i would want him, and i haven't followed his time at louisville closely, but his record doesn't scream "crap" to me :dunno:
2018–19 Louisville 20–14 10–8 T–6th NCAA Division I Round of 64
2019–20 Louisville 24–7 15–5 T–2nd NCAA Cancelled
2020–21 Louisville 13–7 8–5 7th
2021–22 Louisville 11–9 5–5
-
He’s run a blue blood program into the ground, you don’t get to do that and keep your job. Would have missed NCAA’s in back to back years which would have been first time in two decades it happened at UL.
-
ok yeah he took over for Sean Miller at Xavier, forgot about that. he sucks crap, do not want.
-
Eh, no thanks. I realize that most of the names were throwing out are successes at mid majors at a much smaller scale than Mack was at Xavier, but those other guys haven't been proven losers at top 10ish program. Bear in mind not only has be been crap, but he also is facing sanctions for cheating at Louisville. He was cheating but still losing.
when did he do all of this losing other than the last three weeks? not saying i would want him, and i haven't followed his time at louisville closely, but his record doesn't scream "crap" to me :dunno:
2018–19 Louisville 20–14 10–8 T–6th NCAA Division I Round of 64
2019–20 Louisville 24–7 15–5 T–2nd NCAA Cancelled
2020–21 Louisville 13–7 8–5 7th
2021–22 Louisville 11–9 5–5
This is their worst stretch in 20 years when they had to run a like 80 year old Denny Crum out of the job. They're a blue blood that doesn't want to become just any other program. He'd probably become a SLTH here but we have one of those now, I'd rather see us do something different.
-
Louisville is not a blue blood lmao.
How much would the Miller duo cost?
-
Louisville is not a blue blood lmao.
How much would the Miller duo cost?
Either you became familiar with Louisville in 2012 or you have a very short list of blue bloods. They have 40 conference championships, 43 tournament appearances, 10 final fours, and 3 National Championships. Almost all of that has been since 1980. There aren't 5 more accomplished programs in our lifetime.
-
Sean Miller is the answer
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Just keep oscar, who cares
-
I just mean that sean miller is the closest "Huggins type" hire there is. And you'd think he'd be hungry to do well and move on to a better job.
-
Just keep oscar, who cares
i care because i enjoy being excited about basketball season. I'm sure you'll say "so then just be excited for basketball season who cares?" but for me personally its really hard to get excited about a team that is rarely competitive. sure they may have the occassional big game against a good team...that's basically what has kept oscar employed for the last 6 years, but when you have a team that consistently is not even in the discussion for making the NCAA its hard to be excited about that.
-
Just keep oscar, who cares
i care because i enjoy being excited about basketball season. I'm sure you'll say "so then just be excited for basketball season who cares?" but for me personally its really hard to get excited about a team that is rarely competitive. sure they may have the occassional big game against a good team...that's basically what has kept oscar employed for the last 6 years, but when you have a team that consistently is not even in the discussion for making the NCAA its hard to be excited about that.
You should keep oscar if only because it makes KU fans' blood boil to see him stomping, squeaking, and playing defense on the court.
-
Is there a experienced hs coach in Kansas that knows the state and can coach them up? We should hire him.
-
Is there a experienced hs coach in Kansas that knows the state and can coach them up? We should hire him.
Will Spradling.
-
Total Spitballing-no particular order:
Andy Kennedy - UAB
Sean Miller - Not Coaching
Archie Miller - Not Coaching
Kevin Kruger - UNLV
Chris Jans - New Mexico State
Keith Smart - Asst Coach Arkansas
John Jakus - Asst Coach Baylor
Steve Forbes - Wake Forest
Again, total spitballing so don't @me about how some guys would never even consider the job unless an amazing offer was made. That's understood
-
List needs KT Turner
-
That list sucks. If they hired John Jakus instead of Jerome Tang we riot.
-
Very low mbbhciq but I just want someone who’s not a total nerd and doesn’t make excuses every time something doesn’t go their way. Winning some games would be nice as well.
-
Very low mbbhciq but I just want someone who’s not a total nerd and doesn’t make excuses every time something doesn’t go their way. Winning some games would be nice as well.
Well we have a total nerd that makes excuses. We need another dirty mofo like Huggins to stay for a hot second but leave a long lasting impact
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
i want a HC that i wouldn't trust with anything important other than my fav hoops team
-
Very low mbbhciq but I just want someone who’s not a total nerd and doesn’t make excuses every time something doesn’t go their way. Winning some games would be nice as well.
Well we have a total nerd that makes excuses. We need another dirty mofo like Huggins to stay for a hot second but leave a long lasting impact
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is what I was trying to get at.
-
I am always wary of lifetime assistant coaches. I suppose there can always be another Roy Williams out there.
-
I am always wary of lifetime assistant coaches. I suppose there can always be another Roy Williams out there.
Fair enough, Mike Hopkins hasn't been great.
-
look at you two getting a long and crap
-
Tommy Lloyd has been good but just one season.
-
I am always wary of lifetime assistant coaches. I suppose there can always be another Roy Williams out there.
Roy may have been only an assistant before but he got the HC job as KU at age 38, it’s not like he was 50.
-
I am always wary of lifetime assistant coaches. I suppose there can always be another Roy Williams out there.
Roy may have been only an assistant before but he got the HC job as KU at age 38, it’s not like he was 50.
This is true, but he was a 14 year assistant. It worked out great for KU. Snyder was a long term assistant as well.
:dunno: :dunno:
-
Instead of spending millions on salary each year, we could just purchase a robot coach. Same robot could do double duty and also coach football.
LET'S GO!!!
https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1494705265647644679
-
:impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :impatient: :buh-bye:
-
Instead of spending millions on salary each year, we could just purchase a robot coach. Same robot could do double duty and also coach football.
LET'S GO!!!
https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1494705265647644679
The eff?