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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: CHONGS on January 01, 2022, 12:15:55 PM
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Let's go eff up Oklahoma.
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:bball:
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Seems like no Nowell for us and no grove brothers for OU is a wash.
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Chingon's homeboy the victim of a flop there
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Bad shooting, weak rebounding = Oscarball
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We suck even worse without a pg
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Slow starts seem to be a thing.
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oscar has this thing under control
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It's going to be a loooong conference season. Oscar goodbye tour?
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It's going to be a loooong conference season. Oscar goodbye tour?
Yea he will get retired
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That first half made my skin crawl.
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Not the ideal way to start the conference schedule.
The pessimist in me thinks that 3 wins is is ceiling.
The optimist in me thinks that 8 wins is the max.
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We just take so many bad shots and the coaches can't get it under control.
What happened to Davion Bradford, he looks like the monstars stole his skill. It's not just the pneumonia either. He has no lift, no quickness at all, and the most damning his hands seem to be much worse. Nijel looks worse too but the regression isn't as glaring as it is with Davion.
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Pack can't play two halves that crappy, right?
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Pack can't play two halves that crappy, right?
Yeah, and he will.
Every rough ridin' three ish takes is at least three steps behind the line.
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I'll be surprised if we aren't in the bottom 3 in the conference in shooting percentage.
we're just bad at shooting the ball
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Take bad shots, shoot poorly.
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Slap the floor boys. Lets win this thing of the defensive end.
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Smith keeping us in this thing, for sure.
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Where would this team be without the Mark Smith trade?
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Where would this team be without the Mark Smith trade?
17 fewer points and 12 fewer rebounds in this game.
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Luke :facepalm:
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Surely we can recruit someone better thn Kasubuke (sp). He is a momentum killer with his minutes around timeouts.
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Holy crap, lol, what an incredibly lucky shot
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I need to bump my bad three point shooting posts more often.
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He's going too long without EZ they're going to lose because of OU's second chance points.
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Get stops and don't give up O boards, please.
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The orebs are driving me bananas 😵
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We also have no one stopping them at the rim, doesn't look like EZ is going to play.
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eff to be this lucky we better win
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Total horseshit foul call
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Man they oboarded the eff out of us. Impressive game from Smith.
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Sad
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
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Well eff. Thoroughly winable game. Not many of those on the road in conference.
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Eh, oscar can coach em up. We should be fine. Just gotta trust the process.
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OU mising its best player in front a crowd of hundreds was our best chance a conference road win. Watching SonofBelvisNoland play a perfect game was painful and i expect that to happen every time he plays us
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We're going to lose an assload of close games, just prepare yourselves for it now. We'll go 5-13 and lose like 8 of those by 1-3 possessions.
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We're going to lose an assload of close games, just prepare yourselves for it now. We'll go 5-13 and lose like 8 off those by 1-3 possessions.
That sounds about right. I think 13 wins is probable, 15 is ceiling. And against good teams we’ll be lucky to have a competitive game
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problem is the offense couldn't get going with a traditional 5, but then without one rebounding was a mess...i guess on net though, the small ball lineup did better
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That’s probably the best game from 3 point range we will have in conference play. Need to win when that happens.
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problem is the offense couldn't get going with a traditional 5, but then without one rebounding was a mess...i guess on net though, the small ball lineup did better
That hasn't been the standard this year though. I think Kaosi has been really good and not only can't the small lineup rebound but more importantly, they can't guard. Nowell has actually been a really good rebounder and obviously we missed that tonight. I think the biggest problem with the small lineup is that Ish is a finesse player and he's not great on defense, especially against an even decent big
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I watch a game like this and I'm like, "yeah, that's what we do." We've been playing the same style for a long time now. I don't know what some people expect when they watch. Phi Slamma Jamma? Showtime?
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problem is the offense couldn't get going with a traditional 5, but then without one rebounding was a mess...i guess on net though, the small ball lineup did better
That hasn't been the standard this year though. I think Kaosi has been really good and not only can't the small lineup rebound but more importantly, they can't guard. Nowell has actually been a really good rebounder and obviously we missed that tonight. I think the biggest problem with the small lineup is that Ish is a finesse player and he's not great on defense, especially against an even decent big
just based on this game, the small lineup defended pretty damn well imo...again, not counting defensive rebounding
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Huggins on Texas:
This is one of the easiest places to play because they don't bring people in here. Go to K-State. Go to KU. Go to Oklahoma State. That's hard. You can't hear coaches yelling things out. You can't hear your teammates.... Here, you can hear conversations in the stands almost
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Lol
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
The only functional pg we have was out with covid
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problem is the offense couldn't get going with a traditional 5, but then without one rebounding was a mess...i guess on net though, the small ball lineup did better
That hasn't been the standard this year though. I think Kaosi has been really good and not only can't the small lineup rebound but more importantly, they can't guard. Nowell has actually been a really good rebounder and obviously we missed that tonight. I think the biggest problem with the small lineup is that Ish is a finesse player and he's not great on defense, especially against an even decent big
just based on this game, the small lineup defended pretty damn well imo...again, not counting defensive rebounding
That's a pretty important part of defending. 1.15 ppp in the second half isn't good, it just happens that we were bombing in a ton of 3s.
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i missed a chunk of the game, but i remember they had their share of tossing crap up and somehow going in.
it seemed like the rebounds were more from effort and bad hands than height. just playing hot potato out there. it shouldn't be that stressful when an opponent misses a shot.
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OU was 13-30 from 2 and 10-27 from 3, I wouldn't say they were shooting the lights out
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problem is the offense couldn't get going with a traditional 5, but then without one rebounding was a mess...i guess on net though, the small ball lineup did better
That hasn't been the standard this year though. I think Kaosi has been really good and not only can't the small lineup rebound but more importantly, they can't guard. Nowell has actually been a really good rebounder and obviously we missed that tonight. I think the biggest problem with the small lineup is that Ish is a finesse player and he's not great on defense, especially against an even decent big
Ish got 2 rebounds. That's clearly not acceptable for a 6-9 guy and his lack of production killed us with OU's second-chance points. He had a nice game in other areas, but his want to on the boards has to improve.
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OU was 13-30 from 2 and 10-27 from 3, I wouldn't say they were shooting the lights out
i remember they had a few shots like floaters either they got an and-1 or were trying to draw one that went in
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
The only functional pg we have was out with covid
That was a key, even OU until the got the and 1 on the 3 pointer was equally as listless. Both teams look like they forgot how to play basketball for the first 2-3 minutes of the games, OU just figured it out sooner (lulz) than we did
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
The only functional pg we have was out with covid
That was a key, even OU until the got the and 1 on the 3 pointer was equally as listless. Both teams look like they forgot how to play basketball for the first 2-3 minutes of the games, OU just figured it out sooner (lulz) than we did
They were missing their best player and two role players who had played every game before this one.
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Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
Sucks but our slow start killed us again. Once going we end up doing alright
Didn't watch, but how does a college basketball team score only 22 points in the first half. How can offense be this hard? Looked like we had 12 points with 7 min left in the first half. That is just putrid.
The only functional pg we have was out with covid
That was a key, even OU until the got the and 1 on the 3 pointer was equally as listless. Both teams look like they forgot how to play basketball for the first 2-3 minutes of the games, OU just figured it out sooner (lulz) than we did
They were missing their best player and two role players who had played
every game before this one.
That's going to be the norm until teams develop immunity. We'll probably be forece to play a game w/o Pack, Smith, Ish or whomever.
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We literally went like 7 and a half minutes or something like that without a field goal to start the game. I'd say that had a pretty big impact on the outcome of the game. My daughter's 6 year old team runs a better offense than the Cats.
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Looking good to start
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KSU coming back and taking a decent lead will make the collapse that much sweeter.
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Man, I didn't think my prediction of 6-8 close losses would happen consecutively to start conference play.
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We're gonna win!
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Ball game
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I like that mccullar is the one losing them the game
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Great win :clap:
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I like that mccullar is the one losing them the game
Yeah, bone that guy.
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Small lineup down the stretch was great.
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Wonder how many minutes that group can play each game? Smith is a stud
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Wonder how many minutes that group can play each game? Smith is a stud
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Normally, not much. Tech has no size on their front line at all and they looked pretty gassed playing a third game this week and a second in less than two days. For teams with a true big Massoud is completely overmatched.
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Nowell played his rough ridin' ass off, dude wanted that game so bad
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Nowell played his rough ridin' ass off, dude wanted that game so bad
He’s an elite distributor, its a shame we don’t have good finishers around the rim or he’d probably be top 10 in assists this year.
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Is Baylor actually scum??
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Taco Tech no match for a cornered oscar.
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What happens to a oscar cornered?
Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore—
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over—
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?
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Nowell played his rough ridin' ass off, dude wanted that game so bad
He’s an elite distributor, its a shame we don’t have good finishers around the rim or he’d probably be top 10 in assists this year.
Oh for sure, but not just that, I was also thinking about his hustle/strip turnovers he was created, especially those last 5ish minutes of the game, it seemed like be was everywhere on defense making guys 7 inches taller than him look slow and silly. He just seemed to be in the middle of every single TT possession, it was incredible
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What happens to a oscar cornered?
Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore—
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over—
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?
Is this an ode to David McCormick you're trying to recycle?
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that texas oaf took his damn self out
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Stream?
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these refs are awesome
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cruel of these Horns to foul Massoud right when he was about to (probably) get a rebound
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Not great
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i don't like the way smith's legs and torso fit together. also, why doesn't massoud shave his cheeks? looks weird.
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pack is thinner than i remembered him being.
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smith looks like he's gonna take like three years to go from d1 to being one of those super sweaty old fat guys that dominates pickup games.
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what time did this game rough ridin' start?
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what time did this game rough ridin' start?
730
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also that is the most virusy godawful link I think I've ever seen
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So many fouls 💀
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also that is the most virusy godawful link I think I've ever seen
heres some maybe some others that are better
https://www.reddit.com/r/ncaaBBallStreams/comments/s7clbb/game_thread_texas_vs_kansas_st_0830_pm_est/
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the sportsnest streams usually work pretty well for me. they stop randomly, but just reload and it's fine. prolly have a bunch of popups if you aren't using an adblocker, dunno.
http://sportsnest.co/z-texas-vs-kansas-st/
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Gary Patterson is so pathetic
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When it comes to basketball skill we are winning. When it comes to getting bullshit calls and throwing up random crap that goes in, Texas is winning
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Nijel is so special, he should be putting it up like Curry
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Nijel is so special, he should be putting it up like Curry
:dubious:
Well that was quite the jinx
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Defense definitely stepping it up
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i hate to say it, but kasube looks like a poor man's budke
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How many dumb fadeaway midrange shots are they going to make
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:frown:
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Jfc
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:dubious:
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the lineup with massoud at the 5 is hopeless on the boards
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3 ob’s in a row
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Why is this game their Super Bowl?
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3 ob’s in a row
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went even smaller, but got the board :dunno:
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Mark Smith has been an absolute stud, my goodness.
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Yes!!!
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😊
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Horns down lol
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Hell yeah. We're back.
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Mark Smith has been an absolute stud, my goodness.
I love him so so much
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3 ob’s in a row
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went even smaller, but got the board :dunno:
At least 3 huge boards in a row. Mark Smith, CENTER.
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Everyone waving bye to the fans 😍
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Sucks, truly sucks to have dropped so many close games, but clearly now at full strength this team is going to need to be taken seriously.
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Badass win!
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Did not watch but oscar's teams are always better when they go small. Always
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Did not watch but oscar's teams are always better when they go small. Always
True, but having Ish out there as the 4 or 5 was about the worst lineup we used last night. He is possibly the worst rebounder I have ever seen at his size.
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I really liked how they attacked the basket so much. I think they were even unlucky too, I remember so many rimouts. And how the eff we shoot 10 less free throws with that style of play? Meanwhile they were shooting fadeaway midrange shots like prime Michael Jordan
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I’m digging the haircuts.
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I’m digging the haircuts.
earlier this season you could tell something was definitely weighing this team down. I guess that thing was hair.
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Everyone waving bye to the fans 😍
Loved that
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I can't remember ever thinking "Wow! It's getting kind of loud at the Texas game.", but it happened last night. They're really getting behind Beard there.
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Did not watch but oscar's teams are always better when they go small. Always
True, but having Ish out there as the 4 or 5 was about the worst lineup we used last night. He is possibly the worst rebounder I have ever seen at his size.
Is he less interested in rebounding than Steven Hurt?
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I can't remember ever thinking "Wow! It's getting kind of loud at the Texas game.", but it happened last night. They're really getting behind Beard there.
Yea but did you see Beard walking up and down the bench trying to get the crowd pumped up? They were going to remain in dead fish mode if he hadn't noticed the major momentum shift in K-State's favor. I truly think it prevented K-State from grabbing a 5pt+ lead the rest of the game.
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it's the largest university in the nation, you'd think they could find enough students who like BB to pack the place
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Did not watch but oscar's teams are always better when they go small. Always
Nah, not this team and not last night. Massoud isn't even a power forward, we are out there with 5 guards out there, thank God that Smith has some jyc in him. Going small with this team is a disaster and when we try it on Saturday it's going to be embarrassing. Hopefully oscar gets out of it quickly.
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It’s amazing that oscar has allocated so many roster spots to bigs and yet not one of them is even good.
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It’s amazing that oscar has allocated so many roster spots to bigs and yet not one of them is even good.
To be fair, one of them has regressed possibly more than any player in college basketball, one is clearly getting better, and the other 5 was a clear miss.
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We're going to lose an assload of close games, just prepare yourselves for it now. We'll go 5-13 and lose like 8 of those by 1-3 possessions.
We were all warned :cry:
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It’s amazing that oscar has allocated so many roster spots to bigs and yet not one of them is even good.
To be fair, one of them has regressed possibly more than any player in college basketball, one is clearly getting better, and the other 5 was a clear miss.
After seeing so much potential last year, It’s really disappointing to see Bradford such a pear-shaped loser
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We're going to lose an assload of close games, just prepare yourselves for it now. We'll go 5-13 and lose like 8 of those by 1-3 possessions.
We were all warned :cry:
More like a dozen instead of 8 😢
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It’s amazing that oscar has allocated so many roster spots to bigs and yet not one of them is even good.
To be fair, one of them has regressed possibly more than any player in college basketball, one is clearly getting better, and the other 5 was a clear miss.
After seeing so much potential last year, It’s really disappointing to see Bradford such a pear-shaped loser
Seriously, did Bradford even see the weight room in the off season? I fully expected it would be a priority to get some of baby fat off him and muscle him up. Instead he put the freshman 20 on his ass. Who is the strength and conditioning coach? But really the wasted summer falls on Oscar, who can't get a Colon out of Bradfort (this is not surprising. He is a pathetic big man coash who mumped up JO his senior year, too).
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he had like serious covid/pneumonia...he didn't just decide to be lazy
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he had like serious covid/pneumonia...he didn't just decide to be lazy
He had that weight on him before he got pneumonia and he's been in a power conference college basketball program for nearly 3 months since he was cleared to play.
I'm actually not as worried about the weight though. There have been plenty of chubby ballers who could play and play well. He had some explosiveness and that's completely gone. What's even more troubling to me is his lack of confidence and lack of awareness. Last year he was decisive and now he just isn't that at all. Even on the dunk he had yesterday, he paused up look to see who, if anyone, was near him. The guards repeatedly got at him and Ez to go up quickly and keep the ball up when they get feeds, and he was so good at that last year. He had a three possession stretch, two defensive and one offensive, where he was totally lost didn't know where his man was, didn't know where the ball was, and didn't seem to know what set we were in. He's totally lost right now