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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Noah smith, liar or dumbass?
« on: May 02, 2024, 09:54:28 PM »
This illustrates a big part of the problem
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 08:57:17 PM »What does the highest paid water polo person on the entire planet make for playing or coaching water polo?
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Based on a few minutes of research it looks like a couple hundred thousand in salary for the top players in Europe. But most pros probably make about a living wage and there is no pro water polo in the US.
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 08:04:53 PM »
Unlimited substitutions. Most take place after a goal or quarter. You can sub on the fly hockey style but it's usually just one player at a time and is rare. It's also rare for a player at the highest level to play the entire game, usually the top players will
On defending drivers, it's like guarding a wing in basketball combined with bump and run coverage in football. Generally a player has "advantage" over a defender when they are between the goal and defender, and any contact in this case position leads to an exclusion. Defenders can put their hands on players and push or get in the way as long as the offensive player doesn't have advantage. It's like if you could foul a shooter or player in basketball as long as you are not doing it from behind and aren't hitting them in the head. Like a good defensive play in the center is a defender hitting the arm of the center shooting close to the goal because the center couldn't push them away to get space
On defending drivers, it's like guarding a wing in basketball combined with bump and run coverage in football. Generally a player has "advantage" over a defender when they are between the goal and defender, and any contact in this case position leads to an exclusion. Defenders can put their hands on players and push or get in the way as long as the offensive player doesn't have advantage. It's like if you could foul a shooter or player in basketball as long as you are not doing it from behind and aren't hitting them in the head. Like a good defensive play in the center is a defender hitting the arm of the center shooting close to the goal because the center couldn't push them away to get space
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 06:55:31 PM »
Like, a wrestler who can swim would probably be more valuable than a basketball player that can swim, especially for set and set d. Anyway
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 06:47:52 PM »it's our last water polo season (probably) and gearing up for summer tournaments there is drama as there usually is. Since there aren't enough girls at any one club, clubs will join forces to create more competitive teams. Anyway my daughter's club and another club were merging and planned to have an A team and a B team. At least that's what one of the coaches thought. There were 3 or 4 combined tournaments with one team and eventually the other coach (who was going to lead the A team in summer tourneys) thought it was going to be one big team with a huge bench while my daughter's coach thought there would be an A and a B team (so weaker players from both clubs could play a lot at an appropriate level).
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
Besides watching maybe 5 minutes of Olympic coverage of Water polo I have no idea how it works. What makes someone good a water polo?
Is it similar to football where people with all different body sizes (Lineman/receivers/etc) play at the same time in different positions?
Is it more similar to basketball where being tall is a huge advantage?
Are you swimming/treading water the whole time or can you touch the bottom when the ball is on the other side of the pool?
Ok here we go!
Obviously they need to be a solid swimmer, but just being fast at like a 50m won't cut it. They need to be able to have good lateral movement, change of direction, and quick bursts in the water. Height is a definite advantage, but much less than you'd get in basketball, maybe with the exception of goalies. Leverage and strength in the water is also huge - imagine boxing someone out in the water- there is constant pushing, sealing, etc. and knowing how to use your body to get position is important.
In a regulation pool they need to read water all the time, but there are quite a few "shallow-deep" pools outside of California where you will be able to touch at one end - you just can't touch the bottom to make a play on or with the ball. It's tough to officiate.
As for positions, it's 6 on 6, and most set up on two rows of 3 with the offense centered around a player that sets up right in front of the goal, much like a post in basketball. They are generally the biggest/strongest player in the pool and so much strategy is centered around getting the ball or defending the post which is usually called "center", "set", "hole set", or "2 meter" because 2 meters is the closest they can get to the goal without the ball.
They're guarded by a "2m defender", "center d", or "set d" that also needs to be strong but also be able to be nimble in the water because they need to either push the set away from the goal, or front the set, or get on the other side of them when the ball is reversed. Depending on the defense, they might also need to block shots so height is good here.
One interesting thing about polo is that if you are closest to the goal on defense, you are generally furthest away on offense, so the set d essentially becomes the point guard on offense. They need to see the pool, set up the offense, and be ready to shoot outside if their defender (the center) is sagging to help defend the post, which is really common.
The 4 outside players are a little more interchangeable, although lefties are really valuable on the right side closest to the goal because they can shoot from tighter angles than a righty can. The 4 wing players are often called attackers or drivers because depending on the defense they will try make a move to the goal away from the ball (like a backdoor cut in basketball) to gain an advantage on the defender or also get shots from the outside. I'd compare them to a shooting guard in basketball or a winger in soccer. They need to be good shooters but also try to gain advantage on their defenders with drives, which requires bursts of speed, change of direction, and leverage against defenders. These players are often the shortest but height won't hurt you.
Also a big part of polo is that drives and getting the ball in center leads to a lot of penalty fouls, which lead to either an exclusion of the defender or a penalty shot. There are also "ordinary" fouls when you are grabbing an offensive player with no advantage without the ball. Like, if a player has the ball and no advantage, the defender can grab them and push them away from the goal, and players can decide to drop the ball which requires the defense to not touch them for a pass or shot depending on the location.
Anyway that's probably too much info but a start.
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 06:05:41 PM »do the coaches have daughters on these teams?it's our last water polo season (probably) and gearing up for summer tournaments there is drama as there usually is. Since there aren't enough girls at any one club, clubs will join forces to create more competitive teams. Anyway my daughter's club and another club were merging and planned to have an A team and a B team. At least that's what one of the coaches thought. There were 3 or 4 combined tournaments with one team and eventually the other coach (who was going to lead the A team in summer tourneys) thought it was going to be one big team with a huge bench while my daughter's coach thought there would be an A and a B team (so weaker players from both clubs could play a lot at an appropriate level).
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
I forgot to add that for many kids and parents NONE OF THEM had any of this communicated to them at all until rosters were sent out TWO WEEKS before they needed to be locked for the ENTIRE SUMMER. Everyone just thought there would be some clear communication from them but it never came. These two bozos are some of the worst communicators I've ever seen. They're trying to be diplomatic while also being petty and trying to be competitive while also protecting their own clubs. I also forgot to mention that the A-team coach brought in some ringers from outside the region (which didn't bump my daughter from A but definitely bumped some others)
This whole situation sucks. You know who it sucks the most for? The kids that these idiots think they are looking out for.
No! One of them used to be a college coach and the other started his club from scratch. Water polo is a sport that has a lot of room to grow outside of California and I think they both genuinely love the sport and want it to grow but they both have a little too much pride and they both clearly suck at communication
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 04:16:28 PM »Great questions! I will answer later!it's our last water polo season (probably) and gearing up for summer tournaments there is drama as there usually is. Since there aren't enough girls at any one club, clubs will join forces to create more competitive teams. Anyway my daughter's club and another club were merging and planned to have an A team and a B team. At least that's what one of the coaches thought. There were 3 or 4 combined tournaments with one team and eventually the other coach (who was going to lead the A team in summer tourneys) thought it was going to be one big team with a huge bench while my daughter's coach thought there would be an A and a B team (so weaker players from both clubs could play a lot at an appropriate level).
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
Besides watching maybe 5 minutes of Olympic coverage of Water polo I have no idea how it works. What makes someone good a water polo?
Is it similar to football where people with all different body sizes (Lineman/receivers/etc) play at the same time in different positions?
Is it more similar to basketball where being tall is a huge advantage?
Are you swimming/treading water the whole time or can you touch the bottom when the ball is on the other side of the pool?
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 04:10:08 PM »it's our last water polo season (probably) and gearing up for summer tournaments there is drama as there usually is. Since there aren't enough girls at any one club, clubs will join forces to create more competitive teams. Anyway my daughter's club and another club were merging and planned to have an A team and a B team. At least that's what one of the coaches thought. There were 3 or 4 combined tournaments with one team and eventually the other coach (who was going to lead the A team in summer tourneys) thought it was going to be one big team with a huge bench while my daughter's coach thought there would be an A and a B team (so weaker players from both clubs could play a lot at an appropriate level).
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
I forgot to add that for many kids and parents NONE OF THEM had any of this communicated to them at all until rosters were sent out TWO WEEKS before they needed to be locked for the ENTIRE SUMMER. Everyone just thought there would be some clear communication from them but it never came. These two bozos are some of the worst communicators I've ever seen. They're trying to be diplomatic while also being petty and trying to be competitive while also protecting their own clubs. I also forgot to mention that the A-team coach brought in some ringers from outside the region (which didn't bump my daughter from A but definitely bumped some others)
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: competitive little kid sports
« on: May 02, 2024, 03:50:42 PM »
it's our last water polo season (probably) and gearing up for summer tournaments there is drama as there usually is. Since there aren't enough girls at any one club, clubs will join forces to create more competitive teams. Anyway my daughter's club and another club were merging and planned to have an A team and a B team. At least that's what one of the coaches thought. There were 3 or 4 combined tournaments with one team and eventually the other coach (who was going to lead the A team in summer tourneys) thought it was going to be one big team with a huge bench while my daughter's coach thought there would be an A and a B team (so weaker players from both clubs could play a lot at an appropriate level).
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
The two team would have worked brilliantly EXCEPT the A team coach and/or his weaker players decided that his weaker players would not play on the B team, despite the fact that they clearly should based on ability. Which led to my daughter's coach pressuring my daughter (who was clearly an A-teamer) into playing with the B team to guarantee the weaker players of his club would have an opportunity to play on a more competitive team. Like, he tried to tell her she were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play at all and that the A-team coach didn't want her or have space for her when the A coach flat out told her he wanted her on the team and told them that they were depriving the weaker players of a chance to play. Really not cool.
anyway she is playing with the a-team in a couple of weeks and she will have a lot of fun (hopefully)
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Noah smith, liar or dumbass?
« on: May 01, 2024, 08:16:07 AM »
I would say capitalism is based on a form of morality
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: TexAgs politics board gems thread
« on: May 01, 2024, 08:12:42 AM »peacedude10:50p, 4/30/24That's adorable
After 52 years of life, I still have never had a cup of coffee.
Give me hot soup, not a hot drink. Plus, it tastes like sh*t.
As for gourmet coffee, to me that's akin to wearing a designer mask.
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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: CHIEFS
« on: April 30, 2024, 10:37:28 PM »
No fountain or funny shaped jumbotron? Pass
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Noah smith, liar or dumbass?
« on: April 30, 2024, 06:35:00 PM »Is America House Culture the desire to own a home?
I think of it as single family suburban homes with large yards combined with a significant profit motive. I'm sure elements of those elsewhere but it seems a bit extra in the US
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Noah smith, liar or dumbass?
« on: April 30, 2024, 02:57:25 PM »
might be relevant.
https://twitter.com/_fat_ugly_rat_/status/1783509097968492710
since it's absolute values it's kind of difficult to tell how things shifted post covid
https://twitter.com/_fat_ugly_rat_/status/1783509097968492710
since it's absolute values it's kind of difficult to tell how things shifted post covid
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: 201* Concert Thread
« on: April 25, 2024, 09:48:13 AM »
I heard nothing but incredible things about U2 at the Sphere. Seems like Phish wouldn't be as...scripted/coordinated as U2 but I saw a few videos and it still looked pretty great.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: These are the life and times of #blueanon/#blueanongE/#armchairneocons/#neocongE
« on: April 25, 2024, 09:31:54 AM »https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13347143/Drag-queen-story-hour-free-Palestine-Massachusetts.html
What do we do here? Lordy..
what do you think we should do here?
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: 201* Concert Thread
« on: April 24, 2024, 11:34:40 AM »
Charley Crockett last night! was such a hipster country show at an old ass restaurant banquet hall. Very good time!
(background on the folks who run the show) https://www.curbed.com/article/honky-tonk-nyc-ridgewood-country-music-dancing-lola-kirke.html
(background on the folks who run the show) https://www.curbed.com/article/honky-tonk-nyc-ridgewood-country-music-dancing-lola-kirke.html
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: PORTAL KOMBAT
« on: April 24, 2024, 07:07:17 AM »
IMO going through the process and withdrawing is good for most with pro aspirations, even if they're likely to play in Europe
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« on: April 23, 2024, 06:55:59 PM »
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« on: April 23, 2024, 11:44:15 AM »
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Noah smith, liar or dumbass?
« on: April 22, 2024, 02:38:34 PM »There are plenty of cheap houses in a lot of the flyover town that really thrived decades ago. Fewer houses in the big metro areas.I wonder if some of this will be self correcting with remote work and early retirees
Small town America kind of dying is an impact on the current housing situation that I don't see discussed very often. A lot of our boomer parents that got these low cost homes lived in places like Norton, Kansas. You too could buy a low cost home in Norton, Kansas!
I don't think so. You would think you'd see prices falling or at least stabilize on the coasts and that really isn't the case and really remote work has probably peaked and is on the way down.
Although anecdotally I do know someone I worked with in SF who took like $10k to be a remote worker in Tulsa and really enjoys it.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: travel thread
« on: April 22, 2024, 02:05:39 PM »Many salient points, lol. But I have to ask: why are you on FB reading posts from the 2000s?
it's just what's on there!