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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2014, 09:50:58 AM »
If I'm understanding chum correctly,  Michael Brown deserved to die, girls deserved to get raped and frat guys deserve to be falsely accused of committing rape.  :sdeek:

I'm not surprised you don't understand correctly
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2014, 09:52:16 AM »
If I'm understanding chum correctly,  Michael Brown deserved to die, girls deserved to get raped and frat guys deserve to be falsely accused of committing rape.  :sdeek:

I'm not surprised you don't understand correctly

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2014, 10:16:02 AM »
why are you?  :surprised:
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2014, 10:42:38 AM »
If I'm understanding chum correctly,  Michael Brown deserved to die, girls deserved to get raped and frat guys deserve to be falsely accused of committing rape.  :sdeek:

I said probably.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2014, 12:07:31 PM »
It makes most men angry when we hear about false allegation that libber man haters try to sensationalize to perform liturary castration on mankind and leave the notion we are evil mashers and abusers.  This hurts women who are truely attacked by low life man scum.  If I was a judge I would make a rapist drop his wallies and spear in a blender and turn it on high.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2014, 04:14:07 PM »
lol @ libtards.
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2014, 05:09:29 PM »

It makes most men angry when we hear about false allegation that libber man haters try to sensationalize to perform liturary castration on mankind and leave the notion we are evil mashers and abusers.  This hurts women who are truely attacked by low life man scum.  If I was a judge I would make a rapist drop his wallies and spear in a blender and turn it on high.
Would not vote for that kind of judge.


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I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2014, 01:57:02 PM »
Gross. http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/14/here-are-eight-campus-rape-hoaxes-eerily-like-the-uva-rape-story/

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The allegations caused police to warn student at the tiny school to stay inside as much as possible to avoid a team of rapists on the loose.

So everyday at KU? 
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2014, 11:41:52 AM »
Another KU rape case is dismissed, but the judge won't unseal the affidavits leading to the arrest of the two men. They spent over a week in jail.

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/Lawrence-Rape-Cases-Dismissed--286451051.html

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TOPEKA, Kan. (WIBW)-- The alleged rape cases against two men in Douglas County have been dismissed.

The Lawrence Journal-World reports that Douglas County District Attorney Charles Branson has dismissed the rape cases. The alleged rapes occurred at a Hashinger Hall, a residence hall at the University of Kansas, in September 2014. One of the two men was a KU student. The other attended Johnson County Community College.

Branson dismissed the case because there was “no longer sufficient evidence” for the cases to go to trial. The Journal-World reports that no law enforcement official has released what evidence lead to the arrests. Both suspects spent more than a week in jail before being released on $50,000 bond.

Douglas County District Judge Kay Huff sealed the affidavits leading to the men’s arrests. She continues to say that since the case has been dismissed the affidavits should remain sealed.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2015, 08:47:43 PM »
Wow. A dose of sanity from a Dem. Campus rape is not an academic matter - it's a police matter.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/26/andrew-cuomo-campus-rape-victims-should-call-police/
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2015, 01:38:51 PM »
Ex-pornstar Cytherea gets violently raped by 3 black teens. However you won't get any hits on Google news or any other mainstream media. No feminist is touching this story. Read more about it, shows how mumped up the whole rape culture movement and media is.

http://www.returnofkings.com/57034/why-are-feminists-ignoring-the-violent-gang-rape-of-porn-star-cytherea
http://www.returnofkings.com/57635/mercedes-carrera-explains-why-cythereas-rape-was-not-covered-by-the-feminist-dominated-media
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2015, 05:30:47 PM »
Ex-pornstar Cytherea gets violently raped by 3 black teens. However you won't get any hits on Google news or any other mainstream media. No feminist is touching this story. Read more about it, shows how mumped up the whole rape culture movement and media is.

http://www.returnofkings.com/57034/why-are-feminists-ignoring-the-violent-gang-rape-of-porn-star-cytherea
http://www.returnofkings.com/57635/mercedes-carrera-explains-why-cythereas-rape-was-not-covered-by-the-feminist-dominated-media
(must watch)
SVU did a show recently (past month or two) about this.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2015, 09:19:16 AM »
Rolling Stone retracts story and issues unapologetic apology.

"We're sorry our story was unchecked bullshit, we only hope this doesn't lead to more frat gang rape in the future"

Nevermind ruining the reputation of entire fraternity. Unconscionable. I hope they get sued for millions.
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2015, 10:42:01 AM »
Wow, what a non-apology apology. First, they blame "Jackie" for lying, calling her "a really expert fabulist storyteller" - fooled the whole crack team at Rolling Stone!

Next, they say they were just too darned deferential to Jackie because, golly, they just want to protect rape victims!

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Rolling Stone’s fundamental mistake, Mr. Dana said, was in suspending any skepticism about Jackie’s account because of the sensitivity of the issue. “We didn’t think through all the implications of the decisions that we made while reporting the story, and we never sort of allowed for the fact that maybe the story we were being told was not true,” he said. That was compounded by the fact that any reporting on any purported crime that has not been reported to the authorities is difficult, he said.

“Ultimately, we were too deferential to our rape victim,” Mr. Woods, the article’s editor, said in the report. “We honored too many of her requests in our reporting. We should have been much tougher, and in not doing that, we maybe did her a disservice.”

Ms. Erdely, Mr. Wenner said, “was willing to go too far in her effort to try and protect a victim of apparently a horrible crime. She dropped her journalistic training, scruples and rules and convinced Sean to do the same. There is this series of falling dominoes.”

And ultimately, Rolling Stone has decided that the "journalist" and editor responsible for this libel will keep their jobs. How brave of them.
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2015, 10:55:31 AM »
People still read Rolling Stone? :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2015, 12:57:03 PM »
People still read Rolling Stone? :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:

Even if the source of the libel has relatively low readership, it gets a much bigger audience once it enters the MSM echo chamber. That's the problem.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2015, 02:18:49 PM »
The first thing I saw on the story retraction this morning was a news headline about a non-apology apology. I mean, it's no surprise that certain people on here merely repeat what they see/hear elsewhere without actually having any insight or understanding of their own. It's just that sometimes it's more obvious than others.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2015, 02:33:25 PM »
The first thing I saw on the story retraction this morning was a news headline about a non-apology apology. I mean, it's no surprise that certain people on here merely repeat what they see/hear elsewhere without actually having any insight or understanding of their own. It's just that sometimes it's more obvious than others.

You probably saw that headline because that's what it was. It appears to have been worded very cautiously because Rolling Stone expects to be sued.

...and it appears that a suit is likely. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/04/06/uva-fraternity-to-pursue-legal-action-against-rolling-stone-over-discredited-campus-rape-story

I doubt the fraternity will prevail. The legal standard for libel against newspapers is ridic high - usually requires intent? - but I'm glad they're at least getting sued. Hack advocacy journalism that harms people and organizations needs to have some consequences.

Actually, I guess in determining whether the fraternity must prove "actual malice," it may comes down to whether the fraternity is deemed to be a public figure - and the fact that Rolling Stone is a magazine may be irrelevant.
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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2015, 02:58:12 PM »
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We would like to apologize to our readers and to all of those who were damaged by our story and the ensuing fallout, including members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity and UVA administrators and students.

how is this not an apology?

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2015, 03:22:47 PM »
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We would like to apologize to our readers and to all of those who were damaged by our story and the ensuing fallout, including members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity and UVA administrators and students.

how is this not an apology?

Context.

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This report was painful reading, to me personally and to all of us at Rolling Stone. It is also, in its own way, a fascinating document ­— a piece of journalism, as Coll describes it, about a failure of journalism. With its publication, we are officially retracting 'A Rape on Campus.' We are also committing ourselves to a series of recommendations about journalistic practices that are spelled out in the report. We would like to apologize to our readers and to all of those who were damaged by our story and the ensuing fallout, including members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity and UVA administrators and students. Sexual assault is a serious problem on college campuses, and it is important that rape victims feel comfortable stepping forward. It saddens us to think that their willingness to do so might be diminished by our failings.

That's the conclusion of the apology? That's Rolling Stone's takeaway from all this? "Yo Phi Kappa Psi - our bad. But sexual assault is a serious problem on college campuses (well, the one we reported on wasn't) and it's really sad that our libeling the fraternity might make it less likely for real rape victims to step forward. But yeah, you frat guys, sorry about that. Don't sue us - that would only make it more likely that real rape victims won't step forward."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Anybody heard about this Rolling Stone UVA rape story controversy?
« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2015, 03:40:37 PM »
whatever. you can argue semantics all day. they apologized and stated a legitimate concern for how their screw-up will negatively impact the future. rip the article itself all you want, but that apology is fine.