Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

[Panjandrum]

GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.

Cause they ran off their AD from K-State who wanted to hire Jon freaking Super Bowl Champion Gruden and made him take a loser from Temple instead.  The joke is on Miami.

It's like the group that wanted to run Jimmy Johnson out of town came back to finish the job.

[Ira Hayes]

And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

[gokatgo]

And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

I'm gonna go with this one...probably bullshit, but makes me feel warm inside

[sys]

And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

I'm gonna go with this one...probably bullshit, but makes me feel warm inside

yeah, that's the only moderately plausible feelgood explaino i've seen.

[The Whale]

steve henson, next ksu cat head coach.  someone that k-staters can be PROUD of, he's one of us.

man, oh man.  going to be fantastic watching hensies (who wants to be here) clownsuit huggsies in the 'ta. 

[Ira Hayes]

Instead of "Miami doesn't care about winning" that should be something like "Miami doesn't care about hard working guys like us.  They want Ivy League types."

I think this theory has merit. Those coaches don't funnel players to Frank without hoping for something in return.  It's much easier for him to provide tickets/connections/access/jobs and whatever else they desire if he is at Miami rather than K-State.  If it looks to them like he will stay in Kansas forever what good is he to them?

[Panjandrum]

Instead of "Miami doesn't care about winning" that should be something like "Miami doesn't care about hard working guys like us.  They want Ivy League types."

I think this theory has merit. Those coaches don't funnel players to Frank without hoping for something in return.  It's much easier for him to provide tickets/connections/access/jobs and whatever else they desire if he is at Miami rather than K-State.  If it looks to them like he will stay in Kansas forever what good is he to them?

[Kat Kid]

Is it time for the Krause Doctorine??:
Former K-State AD slurs in, "Get me a napkin, a pen, and a scotch"

best

[OregonSmock]

Again, the fact that Miami doesn't even want a whiff of Frank's nut sack says all you need to know about the perception of Frank and K-State.  You are a poor man's NC State.

[jtksu]

Yep, a shitty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?

[OregonSmock]

Yep, a cacty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?

Yeah, it took tons of coaching to tell Jake Pullen to shoot lights out from three-point range and go for 38 points.  You were preseason #3 in the country.  You were supposed to win the Big 12.  K-State finished with 10+ losses and 4th in the Big 12.  That's effing pathetic.

[jtksu]

Weird that he scares you so much then.

[Cire]

He feels slighted, which he hates more than anything

[felix rex]

Yep, a cacty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?

Yeah, it took tons of coaching to tell Jake Pullen to shoot lights out from three-point range and go for 38 points.  You were preseason #3 in the country.  You were supposed to win the Big 12.  K-State finished with 10+ losses and 4th in the Big 12.  That's effing pathetic.

If having a high BB IQ means getting called for all sorts of fouls early, getting beat early, yelling at the refs, telling your players to beat people up on defense, getting a T when the refs stop giving you the game, hitting a ridiculous amount of piss poor shots, and still almost losing, then have fun with that style of play.

His team should be ashamed ASHAMED! of how they got that game, but probably not.  They used what they could, including playing the refs and playing the contact and playing the "good, small, classy vs big meany" card to brutal execution against our bigs.

[chum1]

i admit that while this is an impressive list of rationalizations and alternative explanations, maybe people should just stop being so butthurt and acknowledge that frank not only wants to go to miami but is lobbying to do so.  so what if he is?  bfd.

then again, maybe people should also quit getting sucked into sissy fights with bmw.  and we know that won't happen.

[steve dave]

he's far too calculating to merely be pouting.  

no, he's genuinely butthurt.  everyone can keep trying to find some hidden meaning in it but ultimately he's throwing a tantrum in an effort to get more money and ruining any shred of bargaining power he may have had.  i am going to enjoy the crap out of the inevitable local media interview he grants to say how it was a big misunderstanding and he loves k-state and he was taken out of context, etc.  i will then begin working on the pay frank 2011 campaign that katz will have reached out to goEMAW to lead since his client and himself have proven to be bumbling retards at trying to orchestrate one.  

[Trim]

he's far too calculating to merely be pouting. 

no, he's genuinely butthurt.  everyone can keep trying to find some hidden meaning in it but ultimately he's throwing a tantrum in an effort to get more money and ruining any shred of bargaining power he may have had.  i am going to enjoy the crap out of the inevitable local media interview he grants to say how it was a big misunderstanding and he loves k-state and he was taken out of context, etc.  i will then begin working on the pay frank 2011 campaign that katz will have reached out to goEMAW to lead since his client and himself have proven to be bumbling retards at trying to orchestrate one. 

I've been lifting a lot and have gotten pretty huge.  I'm going to order a bigger PAY FRANK shirt.  An offshoot of PAY FRANK is PAY _FAN.

[WillieWatanabe]

NorthstarBball Alex Schwartz
Can't really go into much detail...but don't expect new Miami AD Shawn Eichorst to pursue Frank Martin. Martin-to-UM talk must cease.
8 hours ago

[CNS]

So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

[steve dave]

So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

[CNS]

So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

[steve dave]

So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

[5601js]

If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.

I had to unfollow him a couple weeks back. As enjoyable as his post-ku loss meltdowns are, his nonstop desire to spin anything about KSU/MU in a negative light reeks of small-man syndrome. I couldn't take it any more.

[steve dave]

If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.

I had to unfollow him a couple weeks back. As enjoyable as his post-ku loss meltdowns are, his nonstop desire to spin anything about KSU/MU in a negative light reeks of small-man syndrome. I couldn't take it any more.

that's WHY he's a great follow. 

[CNS]

goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Louisville assistant Tim Fuller is headed to Missouri, sources told FOXSports.com. He is extremely close with Missouri coach Frank Haith.

Isn't this guy the one they credit a lot of their high end recruiting to?   Isn't he the one who was on Angel?