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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: _33 on June 21, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
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My hunch...
In the minds of political people: A lot
In reality: basically nothing
What is your hunch?
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"I really like Trump and I feel good about what he's doing," Asper told CNN. "I feel that our country right now is safe, and I feel that we can go down the street now not worrying about what's going to happen to us, and I like that feeling."
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My bro's bachelor party to Havana was changed to Caymans
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My bro's bachelor party to Havana was changed to Caymans
Sounds like Trump did him a favor.
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Backing out of TPP kind of sucks.
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My bro's bachelor party to Havana was changed to Caymans
Sounds like Trump did him a favor.
For the browns who haven't been to the Caymans many times, probably.
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My hunch...
In the minds of political people: A lot
In reality: basically nothing
What is your hunch?
Anecdotally I think businesses have started to let loose of their cash and invest. I think that would have happened with Hillary, too, but it's a positive change.
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My hunch is that very little will change, but the question is a little unfair because it takes way more time to implement the policies of an administration, and even longer to actually feel the effects.
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Tried to travel ban brown people, backed out of Paris climate accords, no sports teams come to whitehouse, stock market has gone gangbusters, EPA basically defunded , best buds with Israel again, Supreme Court has 9 justices instead of 8, military uses MOAB instead of drones
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let me listen to Rush and get back to you
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Department stores will be saying "Merry Christmas" this fall.
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Gorsuch. Lots of other things but that's the most important so far. Oh and hasn't the Dow added over 2000 points in less than 6 months? Has that ever happened before? Business loves the Trumpster (well most business - not the ones that rely upon expanded and illegal immigration). Speaking of which, illegal immigration down something like 65% since Trump took office?
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Tried to travel ban brown people (yet to be implemented), backed out of Paris climate accords (nothing had happened yet on these and lots of U.S. cities and states had stricter standards already), no sports teams come to whitehouse (reduced roster, but Pats did), stock market has gone gangbusters (continuing upward trend, though U.S. election result did give it a nice jolt), EPA basically defunded (budget yet to be determined), best buds with Israel again, Supreme Court has 9 justices instead of 8 (been 9 for a while now), military uses MOAB instead of drones
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Tried to travel ban brown people (yet to be implemented), backed out of Paris climate accords (nothing had happened yet on these and lots of U.S. cities and states had stricter standards already), no sports teams come to whitehouse (reduced roster, but Pats did), stock market has gone gangbusters (continuing upward trend, though U.S. election result did give it a nice jolt), EPA basically defunded (budget yet to be determined), best buds with Israel again, Supreme Court has 9 justices instead of 8 (been 9 for a while now), military uses MOAB instead of drones
thanks for contributing
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A) our scandals are better. we had a legit 8 years of birthers and that was rough ridin' boring.
B) christian conservatives are completely mumped for someone to vote for (in your face's the mennonite town I grew up in)
C) shitloads of people soon won't have health care coverage and I theoretically won't have to pay for them to have it
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I finally realized that presidents have feelings and they can get hurt very easily
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I finally realized that presidents have feelings and they can get hurt very easily
good one
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thanks for contributing
Just didn't want this thread to become #fakenews.
Oh, that's one. "Fake news" is a thing now.
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Way more openly horrible, racist people
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Fat ugly is now cool.
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I now know bathmophobia is a real thing
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No biden meme's has really taken me down a peg to be honest.
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Better looking first lady
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No biden meme's has really taken me down a peg to be honest.
this
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
^ People are way more easily triggered these days. :frown:
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Way more openly horrible, racist people
Yes. Racist yokels have always been there, but after trump told them what they wanted to hear to get elected, they appear to be more open and bold with their shittyness.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/878200921980891136
Nice!
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
Thanks for the bump!
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Nice!
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hmmm, just as I suspected, basically nothing has changed. Status of _33's hunch: confirmed
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Donald posterizing the epa has been significantly positive for midwest industries (like it or not, libtards).
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Trump has boosted the economy and helped SNL break TV ratings. He does it all.
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Local elected officials aren't doing their jobs for their constituents, as they can fall back on being anti-Trump and still have support.
Comedians are lazier too. It's the new "rough ridin' a chair on stage."
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis
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Trump has boosted the economy and helped SNL break TV ratings. He does it all.
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
ikr everyone knows jobs are up, racism is down, markets doing great, kicking ISIS tail all over the place....pretty much we're back to being the greatest country on earth
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/31/how-the-trump-administration-broke-the-state-department/
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what an incredibly stupid thread.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/ben-carson-hud-secretary.html
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I read the first couple sentences of those links and they make it seem like a change has taken place, but has it really? We may never know for sure.
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Well were not racking up more debt so that benefits the entire country. We're not throwing all of our money away and letting other countries back out of their committments so that benefits the entire country. Job growth is improving so that benefits the entire country. Pretty much everything is better now. I mean for hard working amercians. Lazy blacks are probably upset they're not getting free handouts or getting paid to do nothing but sell crack and buy bullets to shoot each other....which by the way is a great way of population control.
If everyone here would donate $5.00 to buy bullets and send them to the inner cities we'd cut down on unemployment, pollution, crime etc. Are you willing to do your part libtards? You say you want a better country here's your chance.
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I hope this isn't you Wacky, because whoever runs this is behaving disgustingly
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You could put cat27 as the poster and no one would even question it
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Well were not racking up more debt so that benefits the entire country. We're not throwing all of our money away and letting other countries back out of their committments so that benefits the entire country. Job growth is improving so that benefits the entire country. Pretty much everything is better now. I mean for hard working amercians. Lazy blacks are probably upset they're not getting free handouts or getting paid to do nothing but sell crack and buy bullets to shoot each other....which by the way is a great way of population control.
If everyone here would donate $5.00 to buy bullets and send them to the inner cities we'd cut down on unemployment, pollution, crime etc. Are you willing to do your part libtards? You say you want a better country here's your chance.
Chill out racist
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^^see
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I hope this isn't you Wacky, because whoever runs this is behaving disgustingly
It's not me. My guess is it's one of the libtards acting out under this sock.
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I hope this isn't you Wacky, because whoever runs this is behaving disgustingly
It's not me. My guess is it's one of the libtards acting out under this sock.
I think someone accused you awhile back, I should have known it wasn't you and that it was one of our angry unhinged racist lib posters :cheers:
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I read the first couple sentences of those links and they make it seem like a change has taken place, but has it really? We may never know for sure.
It also begs the age old metaphysical question: If politics changed things but one doesn't follow, care about, or like politics then did anything really change? Food for thought.
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Well were not racking up more debt so that benefits the entire country. We're not throwing all of our money away and letting other countries back out of their committments so that benefits the entire country. Job growth is improving so that benefits the entire country. Pretty much everything is better now. I mean for hard working amercians. Lazy blacks are probably upset they're not getting free handouts or getting paid to do nothing but sell crack and buy bullets to shoot each other....which by the way is a great way of population control.
If everyone here would donate $5.00 to buy bullets and send them to the inner cities we'd cut down on unemployment, pollution, crime etc. Are you willing to do your part libtards? You say you want a better country here's your chance.
He is going to refuse to raise the debt ceiling. It should be pretty inspiring
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I hope this isn't you Wacky, because whoever runs this is behaving disgustingly
So you're not a fan of growth, prosperity and improving the overall quality of lives for Americans? Lotta countries you can go live in that are more inline with your views dumbass
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I hope this isn't you Wacky, because whoever runs this is behaving disgustingly
So you're not a fan of growth, prosperity and improving the overall quality of lives for Americans? Lotta countries you can go live in that are more inline with your views dumbass
No, I dig all that, it's your racism I can't abide fake'pubcat(reallibcat).
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Well were not racking up more debt so that benefits the entire country. We're not throwing all of our money away and letting other countries back out of their committments so that benefits the entire country. Job growth is improving so that benefits the entire country. Pretty much everything is better now. I mean for hard working amercians. Lazy blacks are probably upset they're not getting free handouts or getting paid to do nothing but sell crack and buy bullets to shoot each other....which by the way is a great way of population control.
If everyone here would donate $5.00 to buy bullets and send them to the inner cities we'd cut down on unemployment, pollution, crime etc. Are you willing to do your part libtards? You say you want a better country here's your chance.
Chill out racist
libtard going with his one move....playing the racist card.....really you got nothing better? Careful all, if you don't agree with cuck someone who makes me uncomfortable libatard libby he'll call you a racist and then the consequences will be.......will be.......absolutely nothing :lol: :lol: Here's to you being the worst poster ever libtard! :flush:
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CNS and mir don't post or post in the pit anymore, Trump shook them to their core
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/President_Bush_Biloxi_after_Katrina.jpg)
I believe the biggest change for me about the Trump presidency is how I view George W
i was thinking last night about how hard on Bush I was
he may not have been the most eloquent statesmen but at least he was a human being
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Bush got crap on pretty badly and he was a good dude. I don't think you're the only lib looking back at his presidency these days, LN.
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most of my issue with W was that i thought that he was a bit of a dolt and Cheney was a self serving hawk pulling strings
i just never thought the GOP or America would go full Trump
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Yeah, it makes you think.
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W was a horrible president, don't doubt that... But yeah I don't think he's a horrible person he definitely got hate that was misplaced but that's part of being the president. The Bush family in general from hw and barbara down to w's kids all seem to be very good people.
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I'd love to see Jeb run against Trump in a primary next election.
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Yesterday I was forced to write letters to the white house and all of my legislative reps, including an openly racist rep, because Trump is literally about to kill an entire industry with an executive order that will unnecessarily ban J-1 visas.
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Why would anyone have a problem with j-1 visas?
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This is a stupid thread. _33 can't possibly be this ignorant about the world around him. There isn't anyone who thinks at all this presidency resembles anything before it. For better or worse, it's exactly why people voted for this dude, they wanted something different. If people wanted the status quo we would be sitting with Hillary, Little Marco, or JEB!.
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On your letter to Trump, did you mention that many recipients of these visas are actually white?
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Why would anyone have a problem with j-1 visas?
Nationalists, he gets advice from and he's too stupid to understand he uses students with J-1 visas at his properties. There are 300,000 students who work on J-1 visas annually and this moron thinks there are enough American workers, willing to work temporarily, to fill that void. It's this kind of chronic stupidity and lack of a basic knowledge of common sense that has become a hallmark of the Trump presidency.
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On your letter to Trump, did you mention that many recipients of these visas are actually white?
I did not, but you're correct. I hired 25 on J-1 visas this year, 3 were from South America, 1 from Mexico, 3 from Jamaica, the other 18 were Euros.
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I've lost out on 5 to 6 dentists this year because he shortened the lottery on sponsorship for International Dentist. :frown: That's like 10K lost out on income for Mrs. Wacky and I. :frown:
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Why does it matter that the dentist was 5'-6"?
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That's more than the streetcar :sdeek:
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Why does it matter that the dentist was 5'-6"?
Ugh. Short dentist. No thanks. No short to yank teeth. No bueno. ;)
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My dentist is shorter than me and has a grateful dead bear chain tattoo on an ankle
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:love:
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I really get a kick out of people that want a $15 minimum wage that don't understand that if you don't load the supply with visa workers, wages will increase until the jobs are filled.
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Why would anyone have a problem with j-1 visas?
Nationalists, he gets advice from and he's too stupid to understand he uses students with J-1 visas at his properties. There are 300,000 students who work on J-1 visas annually and this moron thinks there are enough American workers, willing to work temporarily, to fill that void. It's this kind of chronic stupidity and lack of a basic knowledge of common sense that has become a hallmark of the Trump presidency.
:lol: okay angry black man . It's a smart move for the country and he's doing exactly what he said he would which is create more jobs......and if 18/25 were Euros that's not their fault that they're willing to actually work and not expect a government handout. Absolutely there are enough American works to fill the void...granted white workers because you know the jobs aren't selling crack and killing each other.
All Trump has done is try to help your people and you spit it back in his face. No wonder no ones other than terrorists supports the terrorist blm organization.
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This is a stupid thread. _33 can't possibly be this ignorant about the world around him. There isn't anyone who thinks at all this presidency resembles anything before it. For better or worse, it's exactly why people voted for this dude, they wanted something different. If people wanted the status quo we would be sitting with Hillary, Little Marco, or JEB!.
How dare you. To be fair to me, I started this thread in June. Trump has done a lot of stupid stuff since then. But TBH I still don't think things are much different. He's just the president, not a king. You know what I mean MIR?
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What industry is he wiping out? I hope it's something that doesn't hurt me directly :ohno:
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This is a stupid thread. _33 can't possibly be this ignorant about the world around him. There isn't anyone who thinks at all this presidency resembles anything before it. For better or worse, it's exactly why people voted for this dude, they wanted something different. If people wanted the status quo we would be sitting with Hillary, Little Marco, or JEB!.
How dare you. To be fair to me, I started this thread in June. Trump has done a lot of stupid stuff since then. But TBH I still don't think things are much different. He's just the president, not a king. You know what I mean MIR?
I don't know what you mean because the thing I've lodged a complaint against is an executive order. Everything he's done has been done without congress or the Supreme Court.
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What industry is he wiping out? I hope it's something that doesn't hurt me directly :ohno:
Actually two, summer camps and the seasonal tourism industry. Again, the J-1 visa program adds 300,000 workers each and every year. Where are another 300,000 employees going to appear from?
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Everybody knows you have to be from another country to work at Disney or a summer camp
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1. You don't have to be from another country, those businesses have to use international students to fill the positions.
2. There are a lot of industries who used J1 visa workers. Hotel workers, restaurants, nannies & au pairs. I've seen J1 visa workers on the Maine Turnpike. It is a good way to get skilled, temporary employees.
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What industry is he wiping out? I hope it's something that doesn't hurt me directly :ohno:
The gang industry and the terrorist industry. idk if this will hurt you or not
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1. You don't have to be from another country, those businesses have to use international students to fill the positions.
2. There are a lot of industries who used J1 visa workers. Hotel workers, restaurants, nannies & au pairs. I've seen J1 visa workers on the Maine Turnpike. It is a good way to get skilled, temporary employees.
What it is, is a good way to suppress wage growth, wouldn't have thought you would be in big business's camp on this.
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1. You don't have to be from another country, those businesses have to use international students to fill the positions.
2. There are a lot of industries who used J1 visa workers. Hotel workers, restaurants, nannies & au pairs. I've seen J1 visa workers on the Maine Turnpike. It is a good way to get skilled, temporary employees.
What it is, is a good way to suppress wage growth, wouldn't have thought you would be in big business's camp on this.
How do J1 visas suppress wage growth?
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When you artificially increase the supply of workers you suppress the demand (the wage level it takes to hire your workforce)
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You don't read well, do you?
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I guess not bud
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That explains why you seem to be confusing J1 visa holders with migrant workers.
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Die hard Trumper so are you really that surprised?
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That explains why you seem to be confusing J1 visa holders with migrant workers.
J1 visa holders work in America for pay right?
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MIR, you have gone the better part of a year without anyone having to call you a dumbass on the internet, why get back in the game now?
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That explains why you seem to be confusing J1 visa holders with migrant workers.
J1 visa holders work in America for pay right?
Correct. So the standard for suppressing the wage level is simply hiring someone who isn't an American citizen?
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MIR, you have gone the better part of a year without anyone having to call you a dumbass on the internet, why get back in the game now?
I'm sure you are filled with knowledge about J1 visas, you should school me.
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It's fun bbs'n when someone wades too far into the deep end
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That explains why you seem to be confusing J1 visa holders with migrant workers.
J1 visa holders work in America for pay right?
Correct. So the standard for suppressing the wage level is simply hiring someone who isn't an American citizen?
Pretty much, if the number of acceptable applicants for these jobs is less than the amount of jobs to be filled, the employers then have to compete for the workers with higher compensation ( more than min. Wage)
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We are talking about seasonal employment correct? At resorts and camps? Not like seasonal jobs that can turn to year round, correct?
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Can't you just hire college kids for the summer?
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Apparently not for slave labor rates, they also don't want pink hair, nose ring, tattoo, and in some cases black types. This is a gross practice.
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Your dumbass is showing mocat
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Can't you just hire college kids for the summer?
Seriously? Of course, that makes up a majority of the work force that the J1 supplements, most J1 visa holders are also college students. Hiring international students is a significant pain in the ass, I'd rather scale them down. Contrary to what dumbass cat27 thinks, they cost more to hire than Americans. There are a litany of reasons why it's increasingly harder for college students to work the traditional summer job like us olds did. College students have many more school obligations in the summer than we did.
All of this is real in the weeds type of stuff the bottom line is "Buy American, Hire American" has nothing in it that will actually save any consequential amount of American jobs. It's jingoistic election rhetoric that is red meat for a particular segment of the population and nothing more. It is going to do more harm to American business than good.
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Suppressing wages with any type of addition to the workforce, all work visas, illegals, migrants etc. impacts all wages. It's a market and is subject to the law of supply and demand. These guys have just found a way to not have to compete at the expense of every wage earner in our economy
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Suppressing wages with any type of addition to the workforce, all work visas, illegals, migrants etc. impacts all wages. It's a market and is subject to the law of supply and demand. These guys have just found a way to not have to compete at the expense of every wage earner in our economy
This is a bunch of jargon and buzz words that make no sense put together, especially the bolded part, who t.f. are "these guys."
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Suppressing wages with any type of addition to the workforce, all work visas, illegals, migrants etc. impacts all wages. It's a market and is subject to the law of supply and demand. These guys have just found a way to not have to compete at the expense of every wage earner in our economy
This is a bunch of jargon and buzz words that make no sense put together, especially the bolded part, who t.f. are "these guys."
You really are a legit dumbass aren't you, these guys are the resorts, the camps, the amusement parks, I think you mentioned toll roads earlier. Look I know you are in the camp business that uses j1 visas and people discuss what Trump did around the water cooler and you feel like you have to be an authority on the subject now, but in reality my points have all centered around economics which you clearly know nothing about and nobody expects you to so just drop it, you don't need to be "last word guy"
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Suppressing wages with any type of addition to the workforce, all work visas, illegals, migrants etc. impacts all wages. It's a market and is subject to the law of supply and demand. These guys have just found a way to not have to compete at the expense of every wage earner in our economy
This is a bunch of jargon and buzz words that make no sense put together, especially the bolded part, who t.f. are "these guys."
You really are a legit dumbass aren't you, these guys are the resorts, the camps, the amusement parks, I think you mentioned toll roads earlier. Look I know you are in the camp business that uses j1 visas and people discuss what Trump did around the water cooler and you feel like you have to be an authority on the subject now, but in reality my points have all centered around economics which you clearly know nothing about and nobody expects you to so just drop it, you don't need to be "last word guy"
You have a gross misunderstanding about the purpose of J1 visas. Your entire economic argument is based on a flawed premise, therefore it makes no sense.
Also why are you so triggered? Chill out kid, read more, react slower.
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https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/994984978306994176
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Question: Do the they search Bush and replace Trump in these idiotic "our allies have lost faith in us" articles?
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Well, let’s test your cable-news cliche acumen with this little quiz:
If Trump fires Mueller, what kind of crisis will it provoke? (A constitutional crisis.)
If Mueller is fired, what will people take to? (They will take to the streets.)
What kind of lawyers has Mueller hired? (Career prosecutors.)
At the State Department, who is appalled by the new administration? (Career diplomats.)
What kind of compass does Trump lack? (A moral compass.)
Where is the president’s sanity being questioned? (Globally.)
What kind of past is Trump trying to return the nation to? (An ugly past.)
What is it called when Republicans cave to Democrats? (A compromise.)
What do you call Democrats screaming at Trump voters and calling them every name in the book? (A national dialogue.)
How do you describe a Republican who attacks Trump? (Thoughtful. He evolved … he grew.)
What do you call enforcement of immigration laws? (Racism.)
Is that who we are? (That’s not who we are.)
What kind of immigration reform is Trump opposed to? (Comprehensive.)
What kind of gun control is Trump determined to stop? (Common-sense gun control.)
For extra credit, write me a Washington Post-like sentence spinning the Deep State line about what will happen if the FBI is forced to admit that it corruptly engaged in illegal domestic police-state spying on behalf of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2016.
“Information being sought by the Republican Congress could risk careers, I mean lives, by exposing top-secret Russian-connected dirty tricksters — er, dedicated career intelligence sources, by crossing a red line and compromising vital national security about Democrat smear campaigns, according to a source, uh multiple sources, who gave thousands of dollars to Obama and Clinton and are now worried about being indicted and losing their phony-baloney hack jobs texting back and forth with their plain-Jane girlfriends and pretending to be cops and spies blah blah blah … .”
Or consider the North Korea story. A month ago, the plagiarists, tax deadbeats and sexual predators of MSNBC were warning us that Trump’s bellicose rhetoric about Kim Jong Un as Little Rocket Man would lead to World War III.
Then Trump gets the hostages released and Sen. Chuck Schumer starts thundering that the president is being too polite to dictators. This is the same Schumer, by the way, who railed against the Iran nuclear deal, until Trump deep-sixed it, after which Schumer blasted him for doing exactly what he’d recommended that Obama do.
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Ha, an email forward lol
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wow
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That's a stretch. Time to recalibrate your banal retort toolbox.
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https://twitter.com/robertwrighter/status/996013481802518529
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People seem meaner. It's acceptable to cuss out people. Morality really doesn't exist, everything short of screwing the dog or a sibling is okay. More people are off on the head. There is a clothes shortage. Homemade tattoos are the rage. Politics used to be an avenue to getting rich, but Trump is getting poorer.
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People seem meaner. It's acceptable to cuss out people. Morality really doesn't exist, everything short of screwing the dog or a sibling is okay. More people are off on the head. There is a clothes shortage. Homemade tattoos are the rage. Politics used to be an avenue to getting rich, but Trump is getting poorer.
The sanctity of marriage
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Ppl are super mean now because they're so embarrassed their candidate lost to a reality tv star.
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Breaking: partisans easily manipulated by propaganda change views on merica when they don't get their way in an election
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PWT is more emboldened.
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Former "moderates" have become full swing psycho leftist
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The left has gone from annoying, selfish ideologues to full on maniacal fascists.
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The left has gone from annoying, selfish ideologues to full on maniacal fascists.
Could you imagine losing to a reality star?
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I think everyone is embarrassed, but thank heavens for brexit or else we'd be alone here on unbelievably embarrassing island for misfit complete idiots
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Lol
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https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/999629843145854976
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Must be sad and frightening to live in that guy's alt-reality
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It's amazing to watch sys cut and paste people who consider being "united" (with fellow war making NATO partners) with the rest of the world collaborating for regime change in various countries.
sys, I hope you're monetarily supporting the dumbasses you constantly cut and paste. https://www.ndn.org/support
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At least we'll have Israel
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This is evil.
https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/999781072417177600
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This is evil.
https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/999781072417177600
This is America.
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Maybe the children need to be separated so as to determine if they've been abused, and to determine if indeed the "parents" are really the parents?
I know in LibBot land, it's all just a bunch of really great people crossing the border just looking for a better life. But in reality, it's also a lot of really bad people as well.
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:lol:
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:lol:
I know you live in complete and utter whackadoo land sys, I mean, you are certified whack-ah-doo (but you can cut and paste fairly well, and dribble out the occasional semi cognizant thought).
But smuggling across the border, particularly children is an aggravated felony under Federal Law.
Here's some articles, that, if you'd like to take some time away from cutting and pasting tweets from paper shoving policy wonks who need online contributions from idiots like you to keep going. It's sad that you apparently side with the human traffickers. SMDH, but whack-ah-doo, gonna whack-ah-doo
https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/us/migrant-deaths-and-human-trafficking-by-the-numbers/index.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/ana-davila/drug-cartels-where-human-trafficking-and-human-smuggling-meet-today_b_7588408.html
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Good job, dax. You're a really swell dude.
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1000141225800945665
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1000158806591049728
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Enforcing year's old law = moral abomination
Get over yourself, libtards.
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None of this is new or different from the prior administrations
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You know, some of us really don’t gaf about who to blame politically. We really just don’t want America to be part of systematically traumatizing little children.
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None of this is new or different from the prior administrations
false.
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You know, some of us really don’t gaf about who to blame politically. We really just don’t want America to be part of systematically traumatizing little children.
Check thread title
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One thing that has changed: androgynous thing chris hayes and its deluded libtard followers all of the sudden has a moral objections to deporting illegal aliens.
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Dax and FSD are giving 10/10 effort on this one to convince themselves they aren’t crap human beings. It’s honestly quite a sight to behold.
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1000158806591049728
Don't worry, these kids will have their day in court (representing themselves)
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Dax and FSD are giving 10/10 effort on this one to convince themselves they aren’t crap human beings. It’s honestly quite a sight to behold.
Newsflash: Criminals have their kids taken away from them. Prison is no place for children. Don't be a dolt.
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Do they imprison criminals’ kids too? Cause I think that’s part of the problem.
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Amaze
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Man, I've totally changed my mind after seeing the conditions detained children are being held under at the border. Terrible!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fnewpix%2F2018%2F05%2F28%2F17%2F4CB54A8700000578-5779977-image-a-36_1527526129438.jpg&hash=7543f5338956cdf0a1dc01f7e518eaafdf8bfa91)
What kind of evil administration would treat little kids like this?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-5779977%2FTwitter-slams-ICE-pictures-detained-immigrant-children-actually-taken-2014.html&hash=c2c702e904c37376585a7e19ef393b6d63717208)
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:dubious:
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Ripping little kids out of the arms of their parents at gunpoint!
(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2561,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1494008894/articles/2017/04/28/the-saga-of-elian-gonzalez-a-lost-boy-who-was-finally-found/170427-zimmerman-tribeca-tease_nx9wef)
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https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1001146038546255873
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Ripping little kids out of the arms of their parents at gunpoint!
(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2561,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1494008894/articles/2017/04/28/the-saga-of-elian-gonzalez-a-lost-boy-who-was-finally-found/170427-zimmerman-tribeca-tease_nx9wef)
You may want to review that case before you use it as an example, friend
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The PR firm that handles the former Pres Twitter does a great job SD.
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Ripping little kids out of the arms of their parents at gunpoint!
(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2561,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1494008894/articles/2017/04/28/the-saga-of-elian-gonzalez-a-lost-boy-who-was-finally-found/170427-zimmerman-tribeca-tease_nx9wef)
You may want to review that case before you use it as an example, friend
Janet Reno unilaterally declared the negotiations over in the middle of the negotiations and sent in the storm troopers. She was big on that kind of thing.
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But Clinton!
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But Clinton!
Selective outrage. LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday .
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Just admit you got confused (old age, etc.) and thought that guy was elian's father. It's ok to admit you're wrong.
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Just admit you got confused (old age, etc.) and thought that guy was elian's father. It's ok to admit you're wrong.
Parent was a mis-speak, but the principal remains the same. Yet another Lib unilateral decision making AG sent in the storm troopers in the middle of negotiations.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families. :rolleyes:
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families. :rolleyes:
The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families. :rolleyes:
The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.
yes that's a great (and totally sensical) alternative on how the US gov't should process a family that has crossed the border illegally.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families. :rolleyes:
The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.
yes that's a great (and totally sensical) alternative on how the US gov't should process a family that has crossed the border illegally.
The adults in the family committed a felony. When you're apprehended in the commission of an aggravated felony on the Federal level as a U.S. citizen, are you automatically allowed to just hang with your family?
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which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.
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which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.
Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State. As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
If you don't want our border thrown open to children, you should be pissed. This complete and utter mismanagement just made us caretakers for 1,500 kids. Trump may surprise me but I doubt we will just dump these kids on a street corner in Juarez.
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When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"
Dax's whataboutism is getting worse
What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi? There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border. Is that a good situation? Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing? Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.
We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another. Great policy.
If you don't want our border thrown open to children, you should be pissed. This complete and utter mismanagement just made us caretakers for 1,500 kids. Trump may surprise me but I doubt we will just dump these kids on a street corner in Juarez.
So these scenarios have never occurred until now? I wonder where those pictures came from?
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But Clinton!
Selective outrage. LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday .
I think you have me confused with someone else. Unless you are just generally making the post about Hillary Clinton again.
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But Clinton!
Selective outrage. LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday .
I think you have me confused with someone else. Unless you are just generally making the post about Hillary Clinton again.
I think you believe that this situation has never occurred before.
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which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.
Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State. As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.
for someone who has not been previously deported, unlawful presence is not a crime, not a felony, and certainly not an aggravated felony like you tried to assert.
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guys quit squabbling about a couple thousand terrified children ripped from there families in a new land
the new colossus was written by a liberal amirite???
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which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.
Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State. As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.
for someone who has not been previously deported, unlawful presence is not a crime, not a felony, and certainly not an aggravated felony like you tried to assert.
We're talking about the act of bringing minors (or anyone) into the country illegally. That is classified as human smuggling by our laws, human smuggling is illegal.
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So, is it a new policy or not?
In a speech before law-enforcement officials in Arizona on Monday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that the federal government seeks to separate parents from their children at the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort to discourage more crossings.
The Los Angeles Times reports that the policy officially went into effect last week, though hundreds of children have already been taken from their parents in recent months.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-administration-to-separate-parents-children-at-border.html
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Maybe don't try to come into this country illegally and you won't have your family ripped apart.
Go through the proper channels, become a citizen, pay taxes, etc. and then you'll be able to teach your kid about baseball, apple pie, and blowing crap up on the 4th of July.
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If these people had a legal way to enter the country, they would probably be doing that.
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WWJD?
Jeremiah 7:5-7 New International Version (NIV)
If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, if you do not oppress the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm, then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever...
unless they came illegally then, in that instance tear apart there families in a most unorganized fashion.
the word of the lord
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Over 3 million people got deported by your hero Lick, you must have been outraged.
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biggest change i can see from Obama to Trump is that now Dax is seemingly unable to be critical of any federal policy
cpu just spits out yeah but's now
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biggest change i can see from Obama to Trump is that now Dax is seemingly unable to be critical of any federal policy
cpu just spits out yeah but's now
I am against a federal policy which tells people to come to the border, and then apprehends them and deports them. I am also against hidden policies which purposely tells our border enforcers not to apprehend certain illegal crossers.
In one year alone your hero deported 72K people who claimed they had U.S. born children. Why didn't your hero think of the children? Why was there no cataclysmic LibBot outrage, the situation was after all right there in plan sight?
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Dwight D Eisenhower did that?
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Dwight D Eisenhower did that?
2013-14, over 70K deportations of adults who claimed U.S. born children.
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oh i thought you were referencing my hero
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Isn't the fact that they can't account for where the kids are something we can all agree is seriously effed up?
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You are conflating two separate issues.
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You are conflating two separate issues.
at least three, i think.
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Probably
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https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1001606266249150464
the linked article makes clear that there have been changes.
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@33
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http://www.newsweek.com/customs-and-border-control-beat-kicked-and-threatened-migrant-children-under-941385
If only there wasn't such abject complicity by legions of Libs for 8 long years.
All of these issues walk hand in hand with a porous border and the litany of mixed signals given for 8 years by the previous administration.
They are not mutually exclusive.
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-policies-in-latin-america/
(To think she was almost President, but still a pillar of the Lib movement)
The previous administrations horrific foreign policy (if you want to call it that) vis-a-vis Central America only worsened the immigration issue. Again, all of these issues are co-mingled.
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Speaking of the lost kids. Is the Office of Refugee resettlement sending those kids to sponsors, who are themselves illegal? Do illegals answer phones when the government calls? Do they show up at court dates? Was there any reporting 2-3-4 years ago about how kids (parents with resettled kids) with outstanding deportation orders couldn’t be found?
What about court ordered detention periods relative to illegal adults vs children? Did catch and release (with pending future court date) exasperate the “lost” child issue? Catch and release was an invitation to cross the border illegally.
What about rates of placement year over year, say over the last 5 years?
Just another series in selective Lib outrage sure to be followed by a litany of articles “explaining” about how it’s different now.
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While we’re at it, why is a certain monetary ghoul now touting a multi billion dollar plan to stabilize Africa and stop the refugee migration into Europe?
Can anyone here think of any events or policies in the last 8 years or so that greatly enhanced the flight of refugees (and the reintroduction of the slave trade to the African continent)?
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dunno where to put this. susan rice's kid.
https://stanfordpolitics.org/2018/05/28/john-rice-cameron-make-stanford-great-again-1/
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dunno where to put this. susan rice's kid.
https://stanfordpolitics.org/2018/05/28/john-rice-cameron-make-stanford-great-again-1/
Hopefully he doesn't share his mom's values for honesty.
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https://twitter.com/Patrick_J_Egan/status/1002173879794765824
being less racist to own the 'pubs.
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https://twitter.com/Patrick_J_Egan/status/1002173879794765824
being less racist to own the 'pubs.
We'll be less racist out of pure partisanship.
Question, why were they so much more racist under Obama? Sys?
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He was a race baiter.
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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1003950508904763392
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Getting sanctioned for human rights violations to own the libs.
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Strange, never heard from the UN when the previous administration deported 72k people claiming US born children in 2013-14.
Human smuggling is a crime. Bringing children across the border is human smuggling. Does Federal Law allow children to be housed with criminals?
Is it wise to condone human smuggling? Have there been any cases of child dumping (or worse) under the failed catch and release programs?
I know the gurgling SysBot won’t answer the questions. But anyone else want to give it a shot?
We can just toss this fake outrage on the heap with the missing children. Who, in many cases were turned over to illegals facing deportation, who, in a shocking development. Don’t tend to answer phones or show up for deportation hearings, or report to federal offices.
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Strange, never heard from the UN when the previous administration deported 72k people claiming US born children in 2013-14.
Human smuggling is a crime. Bringing children across the border is human smuggling. Does Federal Law allow children to be housed with criminals?
Is it wise to condone human smuggling? Have there been any cases of child dumping (or worse) under the failed catch and release programs?
I know the gurgling SysBot won’t answer the questions. But anyone else want to give it a shot?
We can just toss this fake outrage on the heap with the missing children. Who, in many cases were turned over to illegals facing deportation, who, in a shocking development. Don’t tend to answer phones or show up for deportation hearings, or report to federal offices.
Yes, what kind of delinquent and unfit parents bring their children with them when they flee their homeland? Better just to abandon them back in Honduras.
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Smart misguided aids have been replaced by pliable bafoon and stupid aids; Bolton, Rudy, Pruitt
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https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1004546408484130816
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Strange, never heard from the UN when the previous administration deported 72k people claiming US born children in 2013-14.
Human smuggling is a crime. Bringing children across the border is human smuggling. Does Federal Law allow children to be housed with criminals?
Is it wise to condone human smuggling? Have there been any cases of child dumping (or worse) under the failed catch and release programs?
I know the gurgling SysBot won’t answer the questions. But anyone else want to give it a shot?
We can just toss this fake outrage on the heap with the missing children. Who, in many cases were turned over to illegals facing deportation, who, in a shocking development. Don’t tend to answer phones or show up for deportation hearings, or report to federal offices.
Yes, what kind of delinquent and unfit parents bring their children with them when they flee their homeland? Better just to abandon them back in Honduras.
Or better yet, reverse the horrific Central American policies of the previous cluster eff of an administrationn(particularly those espoused of the unmitigated disaster of a SOS, Hillary Clinton) and help make Honduras a place that people don't want to flee. But that doesn't change the fact that human smuggling is illegal and should always be illegal. Nice avoidance of every other salient point, though.
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https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1004546408484130816
Apparently they would just prefer their phone's be tapped and their private conversations listened to by the U.S. intelligence community, in an operation run by the White House (ala the previous administration). Rather than just be a little more flexible. In other news, the German military is apparently so overweight, it's doubtful they could actually carry their weight in a shooting war with Vlad Putin.
No need to respond SysBot.
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Yeah, what's the deal with Germany being so intolerant of nazi supporters?
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Everybody I disagree with is a Nazi (LibBot)
The intolerant left at its worst.
Sad LibBot, sad.
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Nobody is acting like a bigger collection of nazis than the left since election 2016
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The left :curse:
(https://media.gq.com/photos/5990678e566479647a8ed026/3:2/w_880/GettyImages-830617832.jpg)
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Tiki torches :curse:
:ROFL:
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Exactly
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Never seemed to here a peep when some from the resident Chief LibBot, when a fellow LibBot tries to blow away the entire Republican side of the House of Representatives.
Pretty sad how partisan the resident Chief LibBot is . . . SMDH.
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Now you're just straight up lying dax
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Now you're just straight up lying dax
Gotta Link CLBIR?
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-trumps-economy-now-1528411719 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-trumps-economy-now-1528411719)
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Libtards 2016: Trump will ruin the economy
Libtards 2018: we're taking credit for Trump's economy
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I agree with fsd nothing has changed
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The left has embraced the patriot act police state they spent a decade complaining about as a political tool.
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The right has embraced the Russian state they spent decades and decades complaining about
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Russian reset tho, fucktard
:lol:
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https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1005330029121765376
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That would be over 130 million people
:ROFL:
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https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf (https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf) it comes from this which says on page 2. It does seem a bit misleading to say 'may have a pre-existing condition' but does illustrate how unhealthy americans are at scale.
Key Findings:
? Up to 133 million non-elderly Americans—just over half (51 percent) of the non-elderly
population—may have a pre-existing condition. This includes 67 million women and girls
and 66 million men and boys.
? The likelihood of having a pre-existing condition increases with age: up to 84 percent of
those ages 55 to 64—31 million individuals—have at least one pre-existing condition.
? Among the most common pre-existing conditions are high blood pressure (46 million
people), behavioral health disorders (45 million people), high cholesterol (44 million
people); asthma/chronic lung disease (34 million people), heart conditions (16 million
people), diabetes (13 million people), and cancer (11 million people).
? Between 2010 and 2014, when the ACA’s major health insurance reforms first took
effect, the share of Americans with pre-existing conditions who went uninsured all year
fell by 22 percent, meaning 3.6 million fewer people went uninsured.
? Tens of millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions experience spells of
uninsurance. About 23 percent (31 million) experienced at least one month without
insurance coverage in 2014, and nearly one-third (44 million) went uninsured for at least
one month during the two-year period beginning in 2013.
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oof, we need a bodybag over here
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The right has embraced the Russian state they spent decades and decades complaining about
Meanwhile 30,000 NATO troops with a huge US presence train on the Russian border, the US is trying to thwart Russian client state Iran at every turn, and NATO as a whole is spending more on defense.
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The right has embraced the Russian state they spent decades and decades complaining about
Meanwhile 30,000 NATO troops with a huge US presence train on the Russian border, the US is trying to thwart Russian client state Iran at every turn, and NATO as a whole is spending more on defense.
Your point? It's not justified?
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Tiki torches :curse:
:ROFL:
Let it be noted that FSD stands with tiki torchers.
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https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/1005792756726452225
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We spent two days to obtain a text and commitments. We will stand by them and anyone who would depart from them, once their back was turned, shows their incoherence and inconsistency.
International cooperation cannot depend on fits of anger or little words. Let us be serious and worthy of our people.
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https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf (https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf) it comes from this which says on page 2. It does seem a bit misleading to say 'may have a pre-existing condition' but does illustrate how unhealthy americans are at scale.
Key Findings:
? Up to 133 million non-elderly Americans—just over half (51 percent) of the non-elderly
population—may have a pre-existing condition. This includes 67 million women and girls
and 66 million men and boys.
? The likelihood of having a pre-existing condition increases with age: up to 84 percent of
those ages 55 to 64—31 million individuals—have at least one pre-existing condition.
? Among the most common pre-existing conditions are high blood pressure (46 million
people), behavioral health disorders (45 million people), high cholesterol (44 million
people); asthma/chronic lung disease (34 million people), heart conditions (16 million
people), diabetes (13 million people), and cancer (11 million people).
? Between 2010 and 2014, when the ACA’s major health insurance reforms first took
effect, the share of Americans with pre-existing conditions who went uninsured all year
fell by 22 percent, meaning 3.6 million fewer people went uninsured.
? Tens of millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions experience spells of
uninsurance. About 23 percent (31 million) experienced at least one month without
insurance coverage in 2014, and nearly one-third (44 million) went uninsured for at least
one month during the two-year period beginning in 2013.
A little misleading???? The tweet implied 130,000,000 americans would no longer have access to insurance. That's a lie.
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https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/1005792756726452225
:Wha:
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1005921327952334848?s=19
Also, did "migrant" replace "undocumented immigrant" in the libtard lexicon?
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Freaking monsters
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https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1005521552941731841?s=21
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https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1005521552941731841?s=21
Lol
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Another dunk!
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Another dunk!
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https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1005967005424418816
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I like how even the dems are calling that canadian dipshit an assclown.
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Our president is a total idiot
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https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf (https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf) it comes from this which says on page 2. It does seem a bit misleading to say 'may have a pre-existing condition' but does illustrate how unhealthy americans are at scale.
Key Findings:
? Up to 133 million non-elderly Americans—just over half (51 percent) of the non-elderly
population—may have a pre-existing condition. This includes 67 million women and girls
and 66 million men and boys.
? The likelihood of having a pre-existing condition increases with age: up to 84 percent of
those ages 55 to 64—31 million individuals—have at least one pre-existing condition.
? Among the most common pre-existing conditions are high blood pressure (46 million
people), behavioral health disorders (45 million people), high cholesterol (44 million
people); asthma/chronic lung disease (34 million people), heart conditions (16 million
people), diabetes (13 million people), and cancer (11 million people).
? Between 2010 and 2014, when the ACA’s major health insurance reforms first took
effect, the share of Americans with pre-existing conditions who went uninsured all year
fell by 22 percent, meaning 3.6 million fewer people went uninsured.
? Tens of millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions experience spells of
uninsurance. About 23 percent (31 million) experienced at least one month without
insurance coverage in 2014, and nearly one-third (44 million) went uninsured for at least
one month during the two-year period beginning in 2013.
A little misleading???? The tweet implied 130,000,000 americans would no longer have access to insurance. That's a lie.
No, it said 130,000,000 Americans COULD legally be prohibited from buying insurance.
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Could = imply
Either way an egregious lie. Certainly not fit for ITT since the ACA saw a reduction in the unisnured (not necessarily "uninsurable") drop by like 2,000,000 people (at an extraordinary and disparate cost to young working americans).
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https://twitter.com/JoshuaGreen/status/1006289611872784385
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These are never surprising, but still always remarkable.
https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/1006490047280046080
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We stopped negotiating shitty and deals and started kicking ass again.
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How many posts did chum have yesterday? All from twitter too. I want to read the blog his coworkers are writing on.
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Finally respected by the world again
https://twitter.com/SamBorden/status/1006851656389222400?s=19
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/13/california-woman-in-shock-after-ice-agents-detain-father-a-legal-resident-outside-home/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1528899926
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https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/1006665631134076929
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https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1006987707292246016
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It has long been a misdemeanor federal offense to be caught illegally entering the country, punishable by up to six months in prison and a $5,000 fine. But previous US administrations generally didn't refer everyone caught for prosecution. Those who were apprehended were put into immigration proceedings and faced deportation from the country, unless they qualified to pursue an asylum claim.
Sys - do you know if the people previously put into immigration proceedings remained in detention during the duration of the proceedings? If so, did they remain with their children?
The logistics of the process seems like a nightmare.
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Whenever I read a sysbot post regarding border children, I can only presume that he prefers the lost chidrent turned over to resident illegals who then don't answer calls from the government. Or if the sysbot prefers the catch/release/eventual deportation method down the line.
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It has long been a misdemeanor federal offense to be caught illegally entering the country, punishable by up to six months in prison and a $5,000 fine. But previous US administrations generally didn't refer everyone caught for prosecution. Those who were apprehended were put into immigration proceedings and faced deportation from the country, unless they qualified to pursue an asylum claim.
Sys - do you know if the people previously put into immigration proceedings remained in detention during the duration of the proceedings? If so, did they remain with their children?
The logistics of the process seems like a nightmare.
i don't know specific policies. i've talked to people that crossed/tried crossing. for just like a normal economic migrant apprehended at the border, so no criminal record, non-asylum seeker, verifiable mexican national, they described being rapidly returned to mexico. sometimes just at the border, sometimes flown to mexico city. not sure on the exact time frame, but it always sounded like a matter of days if not hours. this would have been pre 2010.
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posted in another thread but a good example
https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1006795707410468871
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Obama effect
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1007238754040451073?s=19
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Whenever I read a sysbot post regarding border children, I can only presume that he prefers the lost chidrent turned over to resident illegals who then don't answer calls from the government. Or if the sysbot prefers the catch/release/eventual deportation method down the line.
I think he thinks the children should either go to prison or be left in the desert.
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“You will never see your children again. Families don’t exist here. You won’t have a family any more.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/14/child-abuse-part-americas-official-immigration-policy
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NK agreed to give up its nukes :Woohoo:
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The economy stopped choking on itself
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The left decided civil liberties should be wiped out in favor of a neo police state (this started happening durimg b.o., but is now full throttle.)
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NK agreed to give up its nukes :Woohoo:
link?
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The left
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https://twitter.com/JimGoldgeier/status/1007335736994082817
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https://twitter.com/JimGoldgeier/status/1007335736994082817
Let's see in the EU right:
-Greek Austerity
-Brexit
-Nations shutting down their borders to immigrants (a crises that G7/NATO/EURO nations helped create)
-Rise of Nationalism
-Merkel in Trouble
-Italy debt restructering
-German military too fat to fight
-Freedom of religion and expression in trouble in multiple countries
. . . too many other things to even list
But . . . the United States.
Don't bother to answer SysBot
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What needs to change: Obama to Trump (and one reason why we have border troubles):
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/nicaraguans-flood-migration-offices-bid-flee-crisis-013829885.html
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rest easy, fellow americans. we are removing these monsters one by one.
https://twitter.com/surreal_nyc/status/1007110523631144962
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Anything yet? :dunno:
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Anything yet? :dunno:
_33, you are really making me not like you at all.
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https://twitter.com/thomaswright08/status/1011045768742834177
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Anything yet? :dunno:
_33, you are really making me not like you at all.
Sys, that's silly.
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_33, eff off.
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How dare you.
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_33 is multitalented, but the pit is not one of those talents.
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_33 is multitalented, but the pit is not one of those talents.
Disagree on your second point
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https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1011950106902433792
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http://www.newsweek.com/russell-walker-republican-candidate-racist-god-jews-north-carolina-house-999434
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I don't understand why the gop is pulling support?
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Racism is more rampant.
Canada is the enemy.
NATO should disband.
Baby prisons.
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Racism is more rampant.
Canada is the enemy.
NATO should disband.
Baby prisons.
lol. Racism hit it’s peak under Obama and it’s well documented that baby prisons started under him too. Canada’s President has a 33% approval rating, but Trump!
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Racism is more rampant.
Canada is the enemy.
NATO should disband.
Baby prisons.
lol. Racism hit it’s peak under Obama and it’s well documented that baby prisons started under him too. Canada’s President has a 33% approval rating, but Trump!
Your attempts at debating people who have different views than your own is embarrassing.
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Lol. Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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Lol. Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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:facepalm:
When did Obama ever dog whistle anyone? When did he give racists a platform?
Obama separated children from possible human traffickers. Trump separated them from their parents.
Canada is the enemy because their president has a 33% approval rating?
Clap Back.
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Lol. Bucket blacked out after Obama’s last 3 years. Adorable!
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Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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Lol. Come up with something else other than “Trump sucks!” And ppl might look at your posts for once.
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Lol. Come up with something else other than “Trump sucks!” And ppl might look at your posts for once.
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I did.
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Your shitty lying post? About crap that’s been going on for years?
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Your shitty lying post? About crap that’s been going on for years?
What am I lying about, Wacks?
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Again, look above. Are you single? Because I’d totally get it if you were.
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Again, look above. Are you single? Because I’d totally get it if you were.
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Another strong counterpoint.
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If you were oblivious to politics before trump there’s no reason in having a debate with you. You’re awful at this.
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If you were oblivious to politics before trump there’s no reason in having a debate with you. You’re awful at this.
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You're incapable of producing information to back up your baseless accusations.
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Well I just didn’t come out of the womb, so I lived through 2014-2016 racist Obama, bud. Trump “tangling” with a 33% approval Canadian president is not new information. But it sounds like you love that country now, because Trump. Give me some new information of why you’re losing your mind other than the status quo and Trump.
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Well I just didn’t come out of the womb, so I lived through 2014-2016 racist Obama, bud. Trump “tangling” with a 33% approval Canadian president is not new information. But it sounds like you love that country now, because Trump. Give me some new information of why you’re losing your mind other than the status quo and Trump.
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How was Obama racist?
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Well I just didn’t come out of the womb, so I lived through 2014-2016 racist Obama, bud. Trump “tangling” with a 33% approval Canadian president is not new information. But it sounds like you love that country now, because Trump. Give me some new information of why you’re losing your mind other than the status quo and Trump.
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Why should we tangle with Canada?
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He literally started a racist civil war before our eyes and discounted cops as bad ppl.
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He literally started a racist civil war before our eyes and discounted cops as bad ppl.
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That's a start. Please provide an example.
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Ferguson
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If your balls just dropped and are learning this, that’s fine. Google.com might help you with this. I’m with my wife right now, so I’m done responding to a brown poster who just picked up politics, because Trump!
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Ferguson
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Wacky, thank you for providing an example of how you view Obama as being racist or starting a racist civil war. I fail to see how Obama was responsible for the nations response to the cop, I forget his name, killing the African American, I forget his name. I don't believe he was behind the death of the young man or had anything to do with the nation's response.
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If your balls just dropped and are learning this, that’s fine. Google.com might help you with this. I’m with my wife right now, so I’m done responding to a brown poster who just picked up politics, because Trump!
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Have a great night out with the Mrs. I look forward to hearing more about your views. I hope you continue to provide examples of how your views are shaped. However, we may disagree. We may even agree on some issues.
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He backed the villain who robbed a convenience store while being violent before his death. He legit set the example.
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Bucket, I just care about our boys in blue more than you do. They have an extremely tough job. Some are corrupt like many politicians and some are not. Hope you can understand that in this day of age.
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Let me help you out.
President Obama said the shooting death of a black teen by a white police officer last month in Ferguson, Missouri, exposed the racial divide in the American justice system that “stains the heart of black children.”
Speaking at the annual Congressional Black Caucus Foundation dinner in Washington on Saturday night, Mr. Obama said the death of Michael Brown “awakened our nation” to a reality that black citizens already understood.
“In too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement,” Mr. Obama said. “Too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement — guilty of walking while black or driving while black, judged by stereotypes that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness.”
I agree with what Barack Obama said. In my opinion, the argument is about whether or not Michael Brown should have been shot and killed. Was he reaching for the officers gun in an attempt to kill the officer? Did it warrant him being killed? Would it be the same had a white person been the perp?
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Bucket, I just care about our boys in blue more than you do. They have an extremely tough job. Some are corrupt like many politicians and some are not. Hope you can understand that in this day of age.
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I have great respect for our boys in blue. My personal opinion is that there are some bad eggs who give the department a bad image. How do we shake them out?
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Did we agree on something when we use words :D
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I’m not negating a social divide that’s lasted for centuries. Black ppl are scary to white ppl, especially cops, because they’ve seen some crap unfortunately. Call it racism or self defense, but you’ve never lived a day as a cop with some of the on the scene moments they have to decide. That dude didn’t deserve to be killed, but he wasn’t a great person also.
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Did we agree on something when we use words :D
We did, bud. Cheers!
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Did we agree on something when we use words :D
We did, bud. Cheers!
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Have a great time with the Mrs.
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You too!
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Bucket, I just care about our boys in blue more than you do. They have an extremely tough job. Some are corrupt like many politicians and some are not. Hope you can understand that in this day of age.
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I have great respect for our boys in blue. My personal opinion is that there are some bad eggs who give the department a bad image. How do we shake them out?
Have you seen the departed? It seems impossible these days. I’m done. Gotta attend to the Mrs. I totally understand your viewpoint as well tho.
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Bucket, I just care about our boys in blue more than you do. They have an extremely tough job. Some are corrupt like many politicians and some are not. Hope you can understand that in this day of age.
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I have great respect for our boys in blue. My personal opinion is that there are some bad eggs who give the department a bad image. How do we shake them out?
Have you seen the departed? It seems impossible these days. I’m done. Gotta attend to the Mrs. I totally understand your viewpoint as well tho.
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I have, but it's been awhile. It shouldn't seem impossible. We should try to improve it!
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Cockles = warmed.
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Modern day Buckley v vidal
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Modern day Buckley v vidal
I had only ever seen Buckley v Noam Comsky before. This was interesting. Buckley must have been a big deal back in the day. Still seemed like a douche.
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https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1018275295135137797
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1018038316686561280
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right
jesus christ. makes me long for the days of patriarchy.
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right
What a long ass article about a loser living with his parents.
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https://twitter.com/FoxNewsResearch/status/1019893108190863360
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working out well it seems
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the host of celebrity apprentice essentially allowed iran to arm themselves with nukes :thumbs:
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He owned the libs, though.
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Lol. Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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:facepalm:
When did Obama ever dog whistle anyone? When did he give racists a platform?
Obama separated children from possible human traffickers. Trump separated them from their parents.
Canada is the enemy because their president has a 33% approval rating?
Clap Back.
Lol, you just completely ignore the Geo Repatriation that the Obama administration undertook which took away the patriarch, shipped them 1000 miles away, sent them back across the border in unfamiliar and dangerous areas. Many times greeted with bodily harm or worse, sometimes considered spies and informants by resident gangs.
The same goes with questions/interrogating unaccompanied minors and then sending them back. Considered spies and informants by gangs.
Obama not dog whistling is laughable, Hope and Separation.
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He owned the libs, though.
Another dunk!
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Lol. Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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:facepalm:
When did Obama ever dog whistle anyone? When did he give racists a platform?
Obama separated children from possible human traffickers. Trump separated them from their parents.
Canada is the enemy because their president has a 33% approval rating?
Clap Back.
Lol, you just completely ignore the Geo Repatriation that the Obama administration undertook which took away the patriarch, shipped them 1000 miles away, sent them back across the border in unfamiliar and dangerous areas. Many times greeted with bodily harm or worse, sometimes considered spies and informants by resident gangs.
The same goes with questions/interrogating unaccompanied minors and then sending them back. Considered spies and informants by gangs.
Obama not dog whistling is laughable, Hope and Separation.
I didn't bring up the repatriation. It's incredibly sad whether or it happened today or under the current administration. Not sure why you brought it up.
Please provide examples of dog whistling. Are you suggesting "Hope" was a dog whistle of some sort?
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https://twitter.com/bfriedmandc/status/1019756653179219968?s=21
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Until kids are having to hide under their desk for a mass bombing from the then Soviet Union during the Cold War, nothing has really changed. Mass shootings at schools started under Clinton’s watch. If anything the World has been playing grab ass on who has the bigger penis (nukes for rubes). Drinking a cold one on my porch right now and it looks great. Puppy insurance however :curse:
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1018038316686561280
..."Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon"...
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Lol. Tapout noted. Facts suck!
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:facepalm:
When did Obama ever dog whistle anyone? When did he give racists a platform?
Obama separated children from possible human traffickers. Trump separated them from their parents.
Canada is the enemy because their president has a 33% approval rating?
Clap Back.
Lol, you just completely ignore the Geo Repatriation that the Obama administration undertook which took away the patriarch, shipped them 1000 miles away, sent them back across the border in unfamiliar and dangerous areas. Many times greeted with bodily harm or worse, sometimes considered spies and informants by resident gangs.
The same goes with questions/interrogating unaccompanied minors and then sending them back. Considered spies and informants by gangs.
Obama not dog whistling is laughable, Hope and Separation.
I didn't bring up the repatriation. It's incredibly sad whether or it happened today or under the current administration. Not sure why you brought it up.
Please provide examples of dog whistling. Are you suggesting "Hope" was a dog whistle of some sort?
What of “what’s changed” is confusing?
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You’re not making any sense :confused:
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/kfile-jason-lewis-racial-comments/index.html
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/how-trump-destabilised-montenegro-with-a-few-words
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https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1020389967024009223?s=21
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The guy in the middle was in american history x iirc
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https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1021050696957865987?s=21
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that's a really good article.
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https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1025400306132242432?s=21
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https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article216475890.html
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I thought it was meh until the part where he absolutely slaughtered his competition
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Racism and nazis are more rampant.
This checks out.
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https://twitter.com/johnfugelsang/status/1028438879785951233
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Nice to have a unifier in the big chair :driving:
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When an administrative agency does something mumped up, it's Trump's fault and he told them to do it.
When an administrative agency dis something mumped up obama didn't know about and can't be held responsible.
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maybe lock the phone before booze drinks?
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Look who's projecting again. :lol:
'teve 'ave staring in a mirror: NO, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO DRINKS TOO MUCH
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oh no
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https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1039239199373910017
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Great job, DJT
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Coincidence? I think not
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/09/under-trump-jobs-boom-has-finally-reached-blue-collar-workers-will-it-last/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8a37b38fccb0
:driving:
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So the end of the sue and settle shakedown?
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Irrational hatred of the epa is just one of many totally weird things about conservatives and trump supporters. So bizarre.
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Irrational hatred of the epa is just one of many totally weird things about conservatives and trump supporters. So bizarre.
I'd say hating thing based on gut feeling rather than fact based reasons is 100% par for the course for them.
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Not wanting to end a scheme which was essentially government extortion by proxy is oh so very LibBot.
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http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218319475.html
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incred
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SHALL NOT BE - Wait, what?
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Really dumb thing to be upset about; kind of funny way to make the point.
I mean, John Oliver would definitely put a KKK hood on Thomas the Train if given the opportunity.
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Guys trains don't even have genders. They don't have private parts. Nothing has changed.
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:lol: :thumbs:
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https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/1039983708294537216
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Add another member to the IDW. He's not afraid to ask the tough questions.
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https://twitter.com/conradhackett/status/1049122758083399680
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:sdeek:
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Sure these countries are peaved.
They have milking the old US milk cow with a D9 Cat powered milking machine.
Ostupid let them. But he was cool about it.
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confidence in the president of the usa is actually bad
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So perceptions have changed but has anything in real life actually changed? Hmmm, I guess as some people say "perception is reality". However, is it really? No one knows. So the answer to the question "has anything changed?" must be: I dunno. :dunno:
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So perceptions have changed but has anything in real life actually changed? Hmmm, I guess as some people say "perception is reality". However, is it really? No one knows. So the answer to the question "has anything changed?" must be: I dunno. :dunno:
Seriously, eff you.
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So perceptions have changed but has anything in real life actually changed? Hmmm, I guess as some people say "perception is reality". However, is it really? No one knows. So the answer to the question "has anything changed?" must be: I dunno. :dunno:
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there to see it, did it attempt to rape christine ford???
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As the U.S. spends $717 billion dollars of which a substantial chunk of that money will be used to protect almost every country on that list.
I didn't think it was possible, but chum grows more :curse: over nothing by the hour.
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Yeah, considering the "right thing" is sending ships full of American cash to europe, I would view this as a positive for u.s. citizens.
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I want to know who these 6 % of mexicans are that have full faith in el presidente
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One thing that's changed is 33 makes really bad posts in the pit now
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Damn, that was actually one of my better pit posts IMHO.
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https://twitter.com/jennfranconews/status/1049384479997931520
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https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1053786048973672448?s=21
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https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1053786048973672448?s=21
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https://twitter.com/SeamusDalsuego/status/1053985377625825280
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https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1055935346301698048
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https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1057670331735924736?s=21
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Two things:
1st, Luke Cage :love: :love: :love:
2nd, "Recon" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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People are over here yelling false flag when a guy makes crappy bombs but then you have crap like this where they use well known celebrity pics...
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JFC
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1057714919766925314?s=21
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I suppose nearly every politician (both r and d) declining to join the president for a site visit of a mass shooting is another thing that has changed
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/red-sox-world-series-winners-debate-whether-to-visit-white-house
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https://twitter.com/desideriodc/status/1058057097789820928?s=21
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https://twitter.com/desideriodc/status/1058057097789820928?s=21
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just imagine being that guy and a news network enrages you like that. Prob should be a on a watchlist.
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1058835752296026112?s=21
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not to laugh at people getting killed, but that's very funny.
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Interesting observation.
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1058870392281018369
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Not sure where to put this bad boy. Pretty weird.
https://twitter.com/nycityalerts/status/1058871784160813056?s=21
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This incel/maga movement is kinda scary
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lulz
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-european-army-france-russia-us-military-defence-eu-a8619721.html?utm_source=reddit.com
Emmanuel Macron calls for creation of a ‘true European army’ to defend against Russia and the US
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good thread.
https://twitter.com/MattGlassman312/status/1059788933628878848
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cool, cool. just the leader of an unabashed neo-nazi organization at the white house
https://twitter.com/PatrickCaseyIE/status/1060254967951486977
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watch out, sonofsilveralert stayed up past 10 last night and he is freaking out on everyone
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https://twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/1062357290995646464
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The left has become increasingly violent since DJT took office. No denying that.
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"the left"
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https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/1068207967084953600
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Not sure where to put this bad boy. Pretty weird.
https://twitter.com/nycityalerts/status/1058871784160813056?s=21
first Luke Cage now these guys.
who knew there were so many black Trump supporters?
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https://twitter.com/jeffreyprescott/status/1070060390376267776
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https://twitter.com/cbcpolitics/status/922807122055790593?s=21
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https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1071087497957072896
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It’s take a certain threshold of mental capacity to think about the future
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Libtards, particularly the AOC guard, love these:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/12/06/measuring_the_medias_obsession_with_trump_138848.html#2
Trump! :runaway:
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Yeeeeesh
https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1081146972491395072?s=19
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post to fattys minority KSU fan Facebook page circling that one person
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Comparison
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Proves my theory that all white male Democrats are huge dorks.
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Proves my theory that all white male Democrats are huge dorks.
good post for this thread
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Yeah, obvi.
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They’re also huge advocates for #BLM, but don’t know a single African American unfortunately.
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Proves my theory that all white male Democrats are huge dorks.
good post for this thread
and an even better post for this bbs :fatty:
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please clap.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1096826127384014848
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lmao
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1.4 million fewer on food stamps.
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1.4 million fewer on food stamps.
Thanks Obama
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lol bucket is obsessed:
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lol bucket is obsessed:
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Strong rebuke
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Thank you Constitutional Republic, and more specifically the Constitution of the USA, for making sure that even if a dumbass is president, nothing really changes. WELL DONE FOUNDING FATHER GUYS! (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.lowgif.com%2Ffull%2F506ab5912a5d8cfb-animated-clapping-smiley-faces.gif&hash=261d88bd38bac088a3ea94537ba39f7241aa3b67)
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Thank you Constitutional Republic, and more specifically the Constitution of the USA, for making sure that even if a dumbass is president, nothing really changes. WELL DONE FOUNDING FATHER GUYS! (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.lowgif.com%2Ffull%2F506ab5912a5d8cfb-animated-clapping-smiley-faces.gif&hash=261d88bd38bac088a3ea94537ba39f7241aa3b67)
I think you meant to post this in the deep state appreciation thread
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https://twitter.com/usatodaynba/status/1135358612916842496?s=21.
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Like, almost everyone in the entire world loves him
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Like, almost everyone in the entire world loves him
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Imagine the irony of Trump being elected being the marker to the rest of the world re-remembering how the USA is the HBIC and how dumb brexit style effing off is.
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https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1136711379233267713?s=21
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Lol
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Stock market isn’t performing nearly as well.
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1136724546407620612
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President business my ass, bring back Barry!
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People accusing the sitting president of the United States of rape has gone up tremendously.
https://twitter.com/nymag/status/1142103429638172673
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People accusing the sitting president of the United States of rape has gone up tremendously.
https://twitter.com/nymag/status/1142103429638172673
Ah, damn, I luked it in another thread
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Sweden now drags it's nuts and taints all over our face
https://twitter.com/OlofsdotterK/status/1154542238409601026
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Hey lib, if you don’t like it here, you can gtfo!
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LibDerps want ASAP to get prosecuted (unfairly) so Trump looks bad.
It's absolutely disgraceful and pathetic, but, here we are.
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I love America and think it still can be much better :cheers:
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LibDerps want ASAP to get prosecuted (unfairly) so Trump looks bad.
It's absolutely disgraceful and pathetic, but, here we are.
Daxmentia :frown:
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LibDerps want ASAP to get prosecuted (unfairly) so Trump looks bad.
It's absolutely disgraceful and pathetic, but, here we are.
Daxmentia :frown:
Some people are so HAF they can't even remember what they posted just a few minutes ago.
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Some people are so Daxmentiad that they can't even understand the tweet I just posted a few minutes ago :frown:
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Some people are so Daxmentiad that they can't even understand the tweet I just posted a few minutes ago :frown:
Only someone wanting to see Trumps efforts on ASAP fail posts that with that comment.
FFS LibDerp7
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I love America and think it still can be much better :cheers:
;)
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Maybe try again in the afternoon if you're having a "good day"
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Maybe try again in the afternoon if you're having a "good day"
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You get so :curse: :curse: when your passive aggressiveness is called out.
Plus tomorrow is Friday and that means LibDerp7 pissy meter gets turned to 11, can't wait.
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Sweden now drags it's nuts and taints all over our face
https://twitter.com/OlofsdotterK/status/1154542238409601026
It's "has," not "have." So the joke is on her.
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also it's daughter not dotter
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That’s my dotter in the wotter, everything she knows I totter. Everything she owns, I botter. Everything.
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LibDerps want ASAP to get prosecuted (unfairly) so Trump looks bad.
It's absolutely disgraceful and pathetic, but, here we are.
His name is Rocky, his crew is A$AP, grandpa. Or Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye, if you're so inclined.
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https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1155473098805862400
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now down to zero african american republicans in the house. probably within the margin of error.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1157088695935295488
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Yes, WELL within the margin of error
https://twitter.com/djlavoie/status/1157082116301172736?s=21
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What you fail to realize fake centralist(but now full assimilated into the libderps) is that Hillary and ChiCom Joe are super racist too. We have 1 black friend, so obviously we aren't a bunch of racists. Nice tapout/deflection tho.
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The Republicans don't deserve Will Hurd.
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The president now tweets conspiracy theories.
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The president now tweets conspiracy theories.
With the hope it will lock up his political opponents.
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https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1160334033986785280
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https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1160334033986785280
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But Hillary and ChiCom Joe...
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1182750881445486592
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My hunch...
In the minds of political people: A lot
In reality: basically nothing
What is your hunch?
Still nothing imo. Like, the president is a huge dumbass, but I’m making way more $ since Obama. FTR, I don’t think either President had influence on it, it’s just nothing is changing in my own world.
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I do think the left is going crazy over political stuff that’s happening now that already happened under the previous administration. So I guess what’s changed is they’re acting like they care now about it. :dunno:
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I do think the left is going crazy over political stuff that’s happening now that already happened under the previous administration. So I guess what’s changed is they’re acting like they care now about it. :dunno:
What do libs act like they care about now that they didn't pre-Trump? :bwpopcorn:
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The border, politicians being corrupt, Russia, lol Turkey, anything that might be living out of the vagina that was wasn’t born in the United States.
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The border, politicians being corrupt, Russia, lol Turkey, anything that might be living out of the vagina that was wasn’t born in the United States.
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1. Yes, the previous president deported a lot of people (he got killed for that by the way) but he also started the DREAM Act. This president's immigration reforms have not been reforms at all.
2. Political corruption has been an issue for as long as the country has existed and people have always cared about it, that's ridiculous to say otherwise. There has only been one person to run on "draining the swamp" only to see corruption in the executive branch as high as it's been since Nixon.
3. lol Turkey? I was unaware of any other president literally moving troops out of harms way so that one county can attack our allies, it's literally never happened.
4. Your last point, as inartfully as you put it, was the worst of all. This entire country has cared about immigrants, it's literally what the country was based on and allowed all of you pasty fucks to be here.
The fact that three years into this disaster that trump supporters are focused on whataboutism instead of his actual accomplishments is the ultimate hit dog hollering.
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The "all you pasty fucks" comment was kind of mean :(
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I’m not a supporter, but I think it’s fair to point out past crap that’s happened, that the opposition didn’t scream about until now. I pissed off my dad the other day for talking bad about Trump. I’m just a super left hater, that’s all.
It was, I use to tan all the time, but I just don’t have the time anymore. :frown:
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https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/1238297735465324545
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https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1239549894307860483
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woof
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That's the #1 thing that President Business Deals was counting on for re-election.
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What's interesting about all this hand wringing about Trump and the stock market is that none of his supporters, including the Republican party establishment, give a damn about it. He could personally start the next great depression and they'd whataboutism that crap to death.
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Might be enough to get disenfranchised conservatives to show up and vote against him tho
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Naw, best case is they just stay home.
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What's interesting about all this hand wringing about Trump and the stock market is that none of his supporters, including the Republican party establishment, give a damn about it. He could personally start the next great depression and they'd whataboutism that crap to death.
No doubt. MAGAs don't have a lot in the mkt. He can run on guns/abortion/immigration all day. trump touts the stock mkt so your average maga who quietly only cares about guns and immigration can feel like a pro business wall street type when he pulls the lever.
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Being in a bull market under Obama was pretty neat. Too bad Trump turned it into a bear market basically over night.
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lmao
https://twitter.com/cs_mcgowan/status/1245874533397135361
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lmao
https://twitter.com/cs_mcgowan/status/1245874533397135361
honestly it's crazy how politicians don't realize how impactful the cost of health insurance through the exchanges is
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maybe it's because politicians understand that the price of health insurance is due to the cost of health care.
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maybe it's because politicians understand that the price of health insurance is due to the cost of health care.
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in general i find progressive messaging on healthcare to be superficial and tiresome.
clinton is right that the obamacare exchanges should be opened at this time. yes, it is also true that health care costs too much in the united states.
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maybe it's because politicians understand that the price of health insurance is due to the cost of health care.
I don't think that's it
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lol, okay man. You find the arguments to be "superficial and tiresome" but you agree at the very least that health care costs too much. Good stuff, sys.
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yeah, health care costs too much and therefore health insurance costs too much and therefore obamacare is bad and we should laugh at it instead of making sure it is available to people that need it right now doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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In the arena of public health policy I think pursuing a policy that will help like 10-15 people is pretty bad and dumb. Very few people that just lost their incomes are going to be able to get on and pay $800+/mo for a high deductible plan. And telling people in the middle of a plague to “go to that website and pick the best plan for you and your website” is so callous and detached Hillary Sounds like Marie Antoinette, which would bring me to my next point but I don’t think I can post that.
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i admittedly don't know all of the details, but there are subsidies for low income purchasers. and in the middle of a plague is precisely when it would be most beneficial to expand access to coverage, even if it is at a relatively high cost.
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If we learn anything from all this, I hope it is that means testing everything in the middle of a disaster actively harms way more people than it helps and is actually an evil thing to do. A few simple answers would go a long way. I think all the enthusiasm for the SBA loan program is going to quickly be swallowed up by this problem (and also it being woefully too small), it health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
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I was making a point about means testing, but I don’t want to fight anything other than this hang over that is now taking me into its grasp.
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
I'm confused as to why you all progressives only favor m4a, or why you think there's only one m4a model. Or why you think any m4a model proposed is "superficial and tiresome," if you also think the current system is broken, and your only alternative is to go to a plan that already failed. Am I misunderstanding your usage of superficial, given you haven't broken down the failings of the various m4a plans? Am I misunderstanding your usage tiresome given that you haven't conveyed a proven alternative?
I just don't understand such a disdain for a plan that is a clear alternative to what we have that everyone agrees isn't close to the answer and is part of the reason we're in this current situation. Your view on any m4a plan seems to be dripping with some unsaid agenda. We are clearly at a throw crap against the wall and see what sticks situation when it comes to health care in this country, Obamacare didn't.
Also since you said you didn't remember the details of the subsidies of obamacare, again also an odd thing to acknowledge given you're calling other proposals superficial and tiresome, the subsidies essentially consisted of offering really bad plans, with high copays and deductibles, with limited benefits, for cheaper rates. Insurance companies claimed to be losing money on those plans, more people could afford to have an actual plan, but the issue of affording medication and copays and or coinsurance never got addressed. Obamacare failed because their was no way for the insurance companies to protect their profits and there were no price controls to make health care cheaper for the consumer. The only winner it produced was the administration, that could tout higher enrollment rates. That's not even getting into the newly imposed tax penalties for not being insured. It ultimately was a half baked compromise that was designed to not shake the tree of the health care industry, that can't work.
I'm not a m4a proponent, although I do favor a government takeover of the entire health care system, but I wouldn't dare denigrate it when comparing it to the status quo or a program that failed because it was too similar to the status quo.
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If it were up to me we’d have NHS, but I am willing to compromise and offer up Medicare 4 All. It is sad my opponents won’t accept my reasonable offer and insist on ideological free market solutions that are too expensive and have proven they will never work.
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Not an insurance expert by any means, but doesn’t it make more sense to potentially expand COBRA or Medicaid instead of new policies because folks might need them?
It makes a complete joke of insurance if the government forces companies to let people get a new policy at the very moment they need it. If that’s what you’re going to do the relief should just come directly from the government instead of filtering it through heavily federally subsidized insurance companies.
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If there were 10 ventilators and 20 people in need, some people in this thread would think that 10 people should have ventilators. Other people in this thread would be like, "well, we don't have 20 ventilators, so I really don't care if 10 people die or 20 people die."
Incidentally, you can enroll in Obamacare at any time if you lose your job. That's a good thing, even if it's nowhere near the most desirable thing.
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If there were 10 ventilators and 20 people in need, some people in this thread would think that 10 people should have ventilators. Other people in this thread would be like, "well, we don't have 20 ventilators, so I really don't care if 10 people die or 20 people die."
Incidentally, you can enroll in Obamacare at any time if you lose your job. That's a good thing, even if it's nowhere near the most desirable thing.
Your own hypothetical pre-supposes the solution is insufficient, which is the point. I don’t understand the second part of it at all.
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His point is that a measure doesn't have to be sufficient to be helpful.
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I like the discussion of this issue because it's like a microcosm of a larger Bernie/anti-Bernie approach.
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I like the discussion of this issue because it's like a microcosm of a larger Bernie/anti-Bernie approach.
I'm surprised that they haven't started shouting that since lockdown doesn't save all lives that it's useless.
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In the senate, Bernie has been a real pragmatic, compromising [redacted]. Bernie bros don't seem to think the same way.
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lmao
https://twitter.com/cs_mcgowan/status/1245874533397135361
honestly it's crazy how politicians don't realize how impactful the cost of health insurance through the exchanges is
This is really all I meant. Politicians who support maintaining the status quo seems to acknowledge that it's really rough ridin' expensive for the average American and that's without when getting any health care. I mean I guess you probably wouldn't say something you support is really rough ridin' expensive even if it's better than nothing. But still
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
What would you be in favor of for the health care system in the US? I agree with everyone that the health care system in the US is terrible, but I am not a Medicare For All or NHS-style health care system proponent.
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In the senate, Bernie has been a real pragmatic, compromising [redacted]. Bernie bros don't seem to think the same way.
He is part of democratic leadership! People claim really weird stuff about how he always “goes it alone” or “isn’t a team player” etc.
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I like the discussion of this issue because it's like a microcosm of a larger Bernie/anti-Bernie approach.
I'm surprised that they haven't started shouting that since lockdown doesn't save all lives that it's useless.
it takes political capital to do anything. If your opening bid is woefully insufficient to the need, then it may actually be more harmful medium to long term than to continue to work for a sufficient, better long term solution. I am happy to discuss this instead of more crap posting from both sides.
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I like the discussion of this issue because it's like a microcosm of a larger Bernie/anti-Bernie approach.
I'm surprised that they haven't started shouting that since lockdown doesn't save all lives that it's useless.
it takes political capital to do anything. If your opening bid is woefully insufficient to the need, then it may actually be more harmful medium to long term than to continue to work for a sufficient, better long term solution. I am happy to discuss this instead of more crap posting from both sides.
It's tough to discuss any issue that is even Bernie Sanders adjacent when it eventually devolves to this. When did Bernie and his lunatic fringe, as if all politicians don't have a lunatic fringe, become relevant in this particular conversation? Yet, here we go, again.
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
What would you be in favor of for the health care system in the US? I agree with everyone that the health care system in the US is terrible, but I am not a Medicare For All or NHS-style health care system proponent.
Interested in why you think the US should continue to be a global outlier on this? If you care about covering more people or costs, I think we have to be honest that market based has been tried and failed.
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
What would you be in favor of for the health care system in the US? I agree with everyone that the health care system in the US is terrible, but I am not a Medicare For All or NHS-style health care system proponent.
Interested in why you think the US should continue to be a global outlier on this? If you care about covering more people or costs, I think we have to be honest that market based has been tried and failed.
I favor a market based system with heavy price controls, on every aspect of the health care system. I would like to see an expanded need based medicare system, for those who can't buy into the private system.
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Market based is always going to be more expensive.
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Yeah, I get that but I think the healthcare industry is so big in the country that gutting it will kill the economy and leave a lot of working class Americans without jobs. So control the prices for the industry and cap profits and executive salaries, that way that industry can continue to exist, but expand medicaid.
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I like the discussion of this issue because it's like a microcosm of a larger Bernie/anti-Bernie approach.
I'm surprised that they haven't started shouting that since lockdown doesn't save all lives that it's useless.
HOW DOES YOUR LOCKDOWN ADDRESS INCOME INEQUALITY!?!?
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
What would you be in favor of for the health care system in the US? I agree with everyone that the health care system in the US is terrible, but I am not a Medicare For All or NHS-style health care system proponent.
Interested in why you think the US should continue to be a global outlier on this? If you care about covering more people or costs, I think we have to be honest that market based has been tried and failed.
I favor a market based system with heavy price controls, on every aspect of the health care system. I would like to see an expanded need based medicare system, for those who can't buy into the private system.
Do you see this as a type of Singapore-style system?
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if health care is just such an obvious case I’d rather you just acknowledge this one.
what do you want me to acknowledge?
you know that i think the us health care system is a giant crap show and also that i don't think m4a would do much to fix it.
What would you be in favor of for the health care system in the US? I agree with everyone that the health care system in the US is terrible, but I am not a Medicare For All or NHS-style health care system proponent.
Interested in why you think the US should continue to be a global outlier on this? If you care about covering more people or costs, I think we have to be honest that market based has been tried and failed.
I favor a market based system with heavy price controls, on every aspect of the health care system. I would like to see an expanded need based medicare system, for those who can't buy into the private system.
Do you see this as a type of Singapore-style system?
:ck: Not familiar enough with Singapore to know. I'll look into that but initially I wonder if something in Singapore could be scaled here.
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I'm confused as to why you all progressives only favor m4a or why you think there's only one m4a model.
probably because my brain has been rotted by exposure to twitter bernie bros who've spent the last year telling everyone that anything other the m4a is equivalent to murdering the poor.
Or why you think any m4a model proposed is "superficial and tiresome,"
i don't think m4a is superficial and tiresome i think the way american progressives (meaning rose twitter + sanders and warren as presidential candidates) talk about it is superficial and tiresome. i'm pretty agnostic on m4a.
you also think the current system is broken, and your only alternative is to go to a plan that already failed.
i don't agree that obamacare has failed - it has expanded access and i believe the evidence suggests that it has bent the cost curve a little bit. nonetheless, you are mistaken in assuming i think continuing with some form of obamacare is the only alternative or the most desirable alternative.
Your view on any m4a plan seems to be dripping with some unsaid agenda.
my "agenda" is mostly that i think the emphasis on health care policy over the course of the primary was generally stupid since it is abundantly obvious that there will not be the votes in congress to make any large scale changes during the next four years.
and then also that i dislike how people frame and discuss the issue, as mentioned above.
I'm not a m4a proponent, although I do favor a government takeover of the entire health care system.
i'm also more favorable about a govt run hc system (or partially govt run) than an m4a type arrangement, although i think that any discussion that doesn't start with an acknowledgment that countries around the world have wildly different systems and most of them work better than us hc does either is dishonest or reflects a viewpoint so ideologically fixated that i don't trust any diagnosis of us problems that might result.
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my "agenda" is mostly that i think the emphasis on health care policy over the course of the primary was generally stupid since it is abundantly obvious that there will not be the votes in congress to make any large scale changes during the next four years.
couldn't the same be said about any policy issue discussed in the Democratic primary? I like the discussion because I think the President using their platform to drive public opinion is almost as important as the execution. You might argue it's more important when there's an opposition party in the Senate who won't work with you on anything at all.
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couldn't the same be said about any policy issue discussed in the Democratic primary?
yeah, it was just overdone and more obviously dumb to me with healthcare. but yeah. and i do realize they had to talk about it (some). you couldn't run for the dem nomination in 2020 without a healthcare proposal.
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couldn't the same be said about any policy issue discussed in the Democratic primary?
yeah, it was just overdone and more obviously dumb to me with healthcare. but yeah. and i do realize they had to talk about it (some). you couldn't run for the dem nomination in 2020 without a healthcare proposal.
Just curious, what would your preferred central issue have been?
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immigration.
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immigration.
That's a loser in this country though. You're better off pretending to be a socialist.
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yeah, dem voters didn't want to hear anything beyond let the babies out of cages and 'pub voters find even that to be unacceptably lenient.
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It would be nice to at least have a fringe 3rd party weirdo running on open borders to at least drag the dems that direction.
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Even us Greens don't believe in open borders.
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I think this explains what changed from Obama to Trump about as well as anything... Media portrayal becomes most people's reality whether its fair or not.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1250773905310126080
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Just numbers: Jan 2009-Jan 2017
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I think this explains what changed from Obama to Trump about as well as anything... Media portrayal becomes most people's reality whether its fair or not.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1250773905310126080
It looks like the defecit as a percentage of GDP was 50% higher (or more) for Trump's bill
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Just numbers: Jan 2009-Jan 2017
You really do have blinders when it comes to this president don't you, :lol:
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Just numbers: Jan 2009-Jan 2017
You really do have blinders when it comes to this president don't you, :lol:
Hey dummy, I’ve ripped him on spending multiple times and the defense budget.
You always get pissed off when you’re reminded you gave zero fucks about the deficit for 8 years.
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https://twitter.com/RealHouseMark/status/1267878145354543109
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wow, look at obummer not social distancing at all!