Kansas Governor watch (early polling)

[catzacker]

I can't wait to pay for brownback's dumbass plan and paul davis' even dumber plan that "fixes" it. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Battle of 2 dumbasses.  I may have to vote against Brownback just because he won't own up to being a doofus

[CNS]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/opinion/kansas-ruinous-tax-cuts.html?_r=0

“Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy,” he wrote in 2012. “It will pave the way to the creation of tens of thousands of new jobs, bring tens of thousands of people to Kansas, and help make our state the best place in America to start and grow a small business.”

But the growth didn’t show up. Kansas, in fact, was one of only five states to lose employment over the last six months, while the rest of the country was improving. It has been below the national average in job gains for the three and half years Mr. Brownback has been in office. Average earnings in the state are down since 2012, and so is net growth in the number of registered businesses.

[ednksu]

You're such an America hating socialist CNS.  /k-s-u & fake

[steve dave]

Nice job as usual Kansas, you idiot

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/opinion/kansas-ruinous-tax-cuts.html?_r=0

“Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy,” he wrote in 2012. “It will pave the way to the creation of tens of thousands of new jobs, bring tens of thousands of people to Kansas, and help make our state the best place in America to start and grow a small business.”

But the growth didn’t show up. Kansas, in fact, was one of only five states to lose employment over the last six months, while the rest of the country was improving. It has been below the national average in job gains for the three and half years Mr. Brownback has been in office. Average earnings in the state are down since 2012, and so is net growth in the number of registered businesses.

What a pathetic and mis-informative article written by a pathetic newspaper.

"Although jobs are the highest they've ever been, in this one brief window of time (when gdp declined almost 3%) they paused, therefore the entire plan is a failure. We chose not to compare kansas to other states over the time period since the cuts were implemented because that would provide evidence inconsistent with our agenda."

I also enjoyed the obligatory "these taxes only helped the rich" even though all two brackets were cut and the top bracket starts at aristocratic $15k. 

[CNS]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/opinion/kansas-ruinous-tax-cuts.html?_r=0

“Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy,” he wrote in 2012. “It will pave the way to the creation of tens of thousands of new jobs, bring tens of thousands of people to Kansas, and help make our state the best place in America to start and grow a small business.”

But the growth didn’t show up. Kansas, in fact, was one of only five states to lose employment over the last six months, while the rest of the country was improving. It has been below the national average in job gains for the three and half years Mr. Brownback has been in office. Average earnings in the state are down since 2012, and so is net growth in the number of registered businesses.

What a pathetic and mis-informative article written by a pathetic newspaper.

"Although jobs are the highest they've ever been, in this one brief window of time (when gdp declined almost 3%) they paused, therefore the entire plan is a failure. We chose not to compare kansas to other states over the time period since the cuts were implemented because that would provide evidence inconsistent with our agenda."

I also enjoyed the obligatory "these taxes only helped the rich" even though all two brackets were cut and the top bracket starts at aristocratic $15k.

Thoughts on the thought that the reserve fund will be nearly emptied by next yr?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I read Kansas ran a $25 million surplus this past year. I would imagine they'll budget for the same. Hopefully they'll hit it. If not, that is bad.

[CNS]

I read Kansas ran a $25 million surplus this past year. I would imagine they'll budget for the same. Hopefully they'll hit it. If not, that is bad.

<-$338M> vs +$25M is one hell of a discrepancy(whoever is incorrect).

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I read Kansas ran a $25 million surplus this past year. I would imagine they'll budget for the same. Hopefully they'll hit it. If not, that is bad.

<-$338M> vs +$25M is one hell of a discrepancy(whoever is incorrect).

The former is a couple months of comparing revenues collected versus projected, and has been used to mislead the general public into thinking the state is flat broke.

The latter is the difference between revenues actually collected against actual expenditures for fiscal year 2014. It's how much money the state is hording from the public.

[Dugout DickStone]

Sounds like Sam needs to lower taxes more, I'm voting him out

[Panjandrum]

Scott Morgan said something about being in Wichita over the weekend and that there is a push for an elimination of income tax, but a push for a 23% sales tax across the board, including home sales?

Is this true?

If that's the case, I'd have to leave Kansas because I'd be paying income tax in MO (since that's where I work) and 23% sales tax in Kansas. 

Surely, that can't be right.  Increasing income taxes doesn't decrease your motivation to get a job, but 23% sales tax does decrease your motivation to buy, you know, stuff.

I have left Wichita and the Tea Party love fest. They love Kobach and have great concerns about me saying voting is a right not a privilege. The whole thing was to push replacing all income tax with a 23% across the board sales tax including on home sales. I didn't even know that was what the Secretary of State does. Oh wait, it isn't. Just another issue in which Kobach inserts himself. I was invited so they could use a WSU facility for free.

So many things to cover but let me say I did not walk out of there with many votes but I do feel even stronger that Kobach must be stopped.

[Panjandrum]

I read Kansas ran a $25 million surplus this past year. I would imagine they'll budget for the same. Hopefully they'll hit it. If not, that is bad.

<-$338M> vs +$25M is one hell of a discrepancy(whoever is incorrect).

The former is a couple months of comparing revenues collected versus projected, and has been used to mislead the general public into thinking the state is flat broke.

The latter is the difference between revenues actually collected against actual expenditures for fiscal year 2014. It's how much money the state is hording from the public.

What was cut and how much?

[CNS]

Scott Morgan said something about being in Wichita over the weekend and that there is a push for an elimination of income tax, but a push for a 23% sales tax across the board, including home sales?

Is this true?

If that's the case, I'd have to leave Kansas because I'd be paying income tax in MO (since that's where I work) and 23% sales tax in Kansas. 

Surely, that can't be right.  Increasing income taxes doesn't decrease your motivation to get a job, but 23% sales tax does decrease your motivation to buy, you know, stuff.

I have left Wichita and the Tea Party love fest. They love Kobach and have great concerns about me saying voting is a right not a privilege. The whole thing was to push replacing all income tax with a 23% across the board sales tax including on home sales. I didn't even know that was what the Secretary of State does. Oh wait, it isn't. Just another issue in which Kobach inserts himself. I was invited so they could use a WSU facility for free.

So many things to cover but let me say I did not walk out of there with many votes but I do feel even stronger that Kobach must be stopped.

Every single person in NE KS will drive to KCMO to shop for everything.  KCMO is hoping like hell this happens.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

It's funny listening to libtards talk about deficits and fiscal responsibility as if they really care.

You guyz, I really think we all need to pay higher taxes in kansas. And Davis should totally run on that.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's funny listening to libtards talk about deficits and fiscal responsibility as if they really care.

You guyz, I really think we all need to pay higher taxes in kansas. And Davis should totally run on that.

Yeah, but conservatives like myself find this budget deficit somewhat alarming. Brownback has spent way more than he brings in. Any homeowner who makes ends meet every month knows that this is a recipe for disaster.

[CNS]

I am assuming that all articles are liberal bias articles to date and that the news is just filthy with non-liberal, truth-telling-all-the-time conservative/non-bias media but that I am not seeing them across my Google News feeds.   

So far, the majority of the info that counters such liberal-loving sources is basically just FSD ITT. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Scott Morgan said something about being in Wichita over the weekend and that there is a push for an elimination of income tax, but a push for a 23% sales tax across the board, including home sales?

Is this true?

If that's the case, I'd have to leave Kansas because I'd be paying income tax in MO (since that's where I work) and 23% sales tax in Kansas. 

Surely, that can't be right.  Increasing income taxes doesn't decrease your motivation to get a job, but 23% sales tax does decrease your motivation to buy, you know, stuff.

I have left Wichita and the Tea Party love fest. They love Kobach and have great concerns about me saying voting is a right not a privilege. The whole thing was to push replacing all income tax with a 23% across the board sales tax including on home sales. I didn't even know that was what the Secretary of State does. Oh wait, it isn't. Just another issue in which Kobach inserts himself. I was invited so they could use a WSU facility for free.

So many things to cover but let me say I did not walk out of there with many votes but I do feel even stronger that Kobach must be stopped.

Every single person in NE KS will drive to KCMO to shop for everything.  KCMO is hoping like hell this happens.

In KC you would see the KC, MO schools get shaped up fast as every white collar worker on plaza and downtown flooded into Brookside/Waldo/Lee's Summit to live.  This would kill those of us who work in Missouri but live in Kansas.  Paying close to $50k on the purchase of you house would take a looooooooooooong time to make up in cutting the 5% income tax

[CNS]

Yep.  A tax policy change like that would be more lucrative to the ppl of KCMO than if they found plentiful and easily accessible oil.

[Dugout DickStone]

Aquinas would have to build a new campus

[CNS]

Aquinas would have to build a new campus

Well, they are going to have to build up and not out.  Land prices just got real.

[Rage Against the McKee]

A 23% tax on home sales would make it pretty hard to leave Kansas because nobody would be willing to buy your current house from you.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I am assuming that all articles are liberal bias articles to date and that the news is just filthy with non-liberal, truth-telling-all-the-time conservative/non-bias media but that I am not seeing them across my Google News feeds.   

So far, the majority of the info that counters such liberal-loving sources is basically just FSD ITT.

This is completely incoherent, but if I'm interpreting correctly,  you need to understand the difference between lying and deliberately misleading.

[CNS]

A 23% tax on home sales would make it pretty hard to leave Kansas because nobody would be willing to buy your current house from you.

In this case, KS would turn blue super fast.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Real Estate isn't subject to sales tax you rubes. Stupid idea, regardless.