I think the Missouri football players just went on strike

[8manpick]

Asking anyone to publicly affirm their white privilege is rough ridin' asinine

I tend to agree, but I understand why they put that provision in

So you agree it is stupid but understand why they put it in? That sounds stupid

[michigancat]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

[michigancat]

Asking anyone to publicly affirm their white privilege is rough ridin' asinine

Why?

[michigancat]

Asking anyone to publicly affirm their white privilege is rough ridin' asinine

Why?

Well, in this case in particular. It would be pretty crazy to do that to random Joe's walking down the street.

[DQ12]

Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

Those aren't public places.  MU's quad is.

[michigancat]

Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

Those aren't public places.  MU's quad is.

A stadium isn't a public place?

[star seed 7]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

I'm sure the legality is on the presses side, but common decency to not photograph people who don't want to be photographed should have some weight. I doubt many people would be outraged if some creep was blocked from taking pictures of children in swimsuits

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

[michigancat]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

[420seriouscat69]

Can we all just admit that being the President of Mizzou would be a super rough ridin' tough job. It's like Alabama 60 years ago. They're absolutely lost, their sports are in the gutter, and everyone hates eachother at that school. However, I guess they have some sweet pizza place, so there's that!

[sonofdaxjones]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

While one could argue that on a college campus a football stadium is a public space, there are also provisions that keep unauthorized people off the field and it's highly likely when the press agrees to accept their credentials to be on the sidelines they agree to abide by certain rules and standards.   In the case of K-State, the gameday operations come under the jurisdiction of K-State Athletics Incorporated who of course yield to law enforcement in regards to certain issues.    I think one could reasonably say that K-State Athletics is allowed by charter (for lack of better words) to operate game days as they see fit and control access as they see fit.    In the case of injuries I suspect K-State (or any other school) has HIPPA on their side as well. 

I don't think the commons sections of main college (public) campuses falls under the same oversight, and in particular it's certainly not something that students or protesters can enforce by their own choosing.   At least I don't think so . . .  the administration on the other hand probably has a litany of laws on their side if they chose to do so.   Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying. 

[DQ12]

Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

Those aren't public places.  MU's quad is.

A stadium isn't a public place?

The field/sideline isn't.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

Yeah, oddly you are allowed to photograph people in public places, but you aren't allowed to assault them.

[michigancat]

Would HIPPA apply to someone on a hunger strike?

[michigancat]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

Yeah, oddly you are allowed to photograph people in public places, but you aren't allowed to assault them.

That was assault?

[Skipper44]

It's a very real possibility that the only reason Wolfe actually resigned is that he did not want to acknowledge his white male privilege.

Frankly, it was probably a wake up call that he was squandering it. 

I mean eff, if you are a former software exec, do you want a relatively low paying, high pain in the ass job like that?  No way Jose.  You go get on some boards (at $200K+ a pop) that meet once a quarter and you volunteer at a few PGA events and you enjoy what the socioeconomic lottery gave you!

IDK Pete, you are selling the bennies of being a UP short.  I mean, suites at all games and flying the U jet or at the very least the team charter to roadies. 

I will say this shack of a President's House is a joke, no wonder they rent it out for similar rates to the typical subdivision clubhouse

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

Yeah, oddly you are allowed to photograph people in public places, but you aren't allowed to assault them.

That was assault?

He was pushed several times, and the professor asking for muscle also grabbed the video camera. You can't just lay your hands on other people in a threatening way. It's assault.

[sonofdaxjones]

Would HIPPA apply to someone on a hunger strike?

If they were under medical care, sure.

[michigancat]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

Yeah, oddly you are allowed to photograph people in public places, but you aren't allowed to assault them.

That was assault?

He was pushed several times, and the professor asking for muscle also grabbed the video camera. You can't just lay your hands on other people in a threatening way. It's assault.

If the crowd had just formed a human chain blocking access and the lady wouldn't have grabbed the camera, would it have been assault? (I really don't know)

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been thinking about blocking reporters. Is this really a first amendment issue? Are athletic trainers that block cameras with towels while an injured player is being treated violating the first amendment?

The use of public space issue is tricky. What is the precedence for things like keeping simultaneous opposing protests separate? I honestly don't know.

It's not that tricky. Public space is open to the public, and anyone with a camera is free to photograph or film anything that takes place there.

He could still take photos and say whatever he wanted. They just were blocking him from going wherever he wanted.

Yeah, oddly you are allowed to photograph people in public places, but you aren't allowed to assault them.

That was assault?

He was pushed several times, and the professor asking for muscle also grabbed the video camera. You can't just lay your hands on other people in a threatening way. It's assault.

If the crowd had just formed a human chain blocking access and the lady wouldn't have grabbed the camera, would it have been assault? (I really don't know)

Not unless they were verbally threatening him, or walking the chain forward and pushing him back.

[Dr Rick Daris]

seriously though. that president is out of a job for the same reason that doctors get sued. he didn't actively listen or engage the students, brushed them off, passed them on, showed no empathy, etc. it looks like he maybe realized it at the end but who knows.

http://ethicalnag.org/2010/10/15/why-doctors-get-sued/

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/LibertyUSA1776/status/664085707003031553

[sonofdaxjones]

seriously though. that president is out of a job for the same reason that doctors get sued. he didn't actively listen or engage the students, brushed them off, passed them on, showed no empathy, etc. it looks like he maybe realized it at the end but who knows.

http://ethicalnag.org/2010/10/15/why-doctors-get-sued/

It appears, at least on the surface there was an entire infrastructure put in place for the students to take their grievances to, did the students not do that, or did those people not do their job?

If they didn't do their job, it looks like a lot of money has been expended on people to fulfill a role in creating a better environment on campus, and they failed, miserably.   Or, did they? 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

This whole thing is one sick, twisted joke. These people are rough ridin' insane.

[Trim]

That photographer should've gone into any of those tall buildings in the background and gotten some sweet overhead shots of the entire scene.  Those pictures probably wouldn't have been as cool of a story to his bosses as FREEDOM OF THE PRESS BEING TRAMPLED.