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« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2018, 09:37:54 AM »
What's your blue wave/red wave predictions dax? For some reason none of the trump people will give theirs, it's v odd.
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2018, 09:55:46 AM »
What's your blue wave/red wave predictions dax? For some reason none of the trump people will give theirs, it's v odd.

I don't think about it very much LibDerp7, I'm just looking forward to the great BBS'ing either way.


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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2018, 10:21:22 AM »
Should be fun  :D
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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2018, 10:24:53 AM »
Should be fun  :D

The possibility of watching the insane left attempt to investigate their insane takes and theories on everything with an insane base who breathlessly believes every little thing spewed forth that's Anti-Trump is something that I can really get behind.

But then there's the thermonuclear option that's going to be invoked if Trump stays protected. 



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« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2018, 10:28:17 AM »
Well said dax
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« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2018, 11:28:34 AM »
Dax is such a good-hearted person.

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« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2018, 11:31:11 AM »
It's gonna be great, and chum1, no doubt you're gonna be one of the LibBots in residence that's going to provide some fantastic BBS'ing to  :lol: at.


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« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2018, 05:38:46 PM »
you can see that just in kansas, with ks 2 and ks 3 both competitive. 
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« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2018, 08:17:38 PM »
Cliffsnotes: dorkstore silver has to massage his models so he would have a better excuse for his poor modelling than in 16
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« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2018, 10:22:28 PM »
Does LibBot Nation think that Claire McCaskill's "I'm not a crazy Democrat"  platform will propel her over the finish line?

She wouldn't do that

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1057062622376402944?s=19

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« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2018, 09:58:04 AM »
This article tells you pretty much all you need to know about the "known unknowns" a week before the election (and really, right through election day). https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/10/30/uncertainties_loom_as_midterms_enter_final_stretch.html

The most interesting and, I think important, part of Trende's analysis is this: The RCP polling aggregates currently predict Dems will net approximately 11 seats among the races leaning one way or another, with an additional 30 races rated as "toss ups." But it would be foolish to assume that "toss up" means the statistical equivalent of a coin flip, and that these races will break roughly 50/50. They are more likely to break significantly one direction or the other.

And the truth is, none of us have any idea. Which is what makes predictions like Nate Silver's 83.7% so absurd. It's meaningless. If he's wrong, he'll just shrug and say "16.3%".

Trende thinks the toss ups are more likely to break for the Dems. I think they're more likely to break for the GOP. My sitting at a bar reasoning for this is (1) recent events, on net, seem to be favoring the GOP, and (2) scant data on early voting seems to be in line with the older, whiter demographic typical of midterms, which may indicate that pollsters are slightly overestimating the Dems' enthusiasm advantage in their sampling.

Elaborating a bit more on the first point, several recent issues have played to GOP strengths: the hot economy (highlighting GOP tax cuts and polling indicating higher trust in GOP on managing the economy), Kavanaugh smear blowback (highlighting the Dems' mob tactics and disregard for due process), and the caravans (highlighting Dems' weakness on immigration and American's desire for stronger border enforcement).

So we'll see. I think the Dems pick up 19 in the House and the GOP picks up 4 in the Senate. But I wouldn't be shocked if the Dems pick up 30 in the House. I would be shocked if the GOP picks up fewer than 2 Senate seats.
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« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2018, 10:28:58 AM »
Exciting stuff kdub  :D
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« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2018, 10:56:19 AM »
This article tells you pretty much all you need to know about the "known unknowns" a week before the election (and really, right through election day). https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/10/30/uncertainties_loom_as_midterms_enter_final_stretch.html

The most interesting and, I think important, part of Trende's analysis is this: The RCP polling aggregates currently predict Dems will net approximately 11 seats among the races leaning one way or another, with an additional 30 races rated as "toss ups." But it would be foolish to assume that "toss up" means the statistical equivalent of a coin flip, and that these races will break roughly 50/50. They are more likely to break significantly one direction or the other.

And the truth is, none of us have any idea. Which is what makes predictions like Nate Silver's 83.7% so absurd. It's meaningless. If he's wrong, he'll just shrug and say "16.3%".

Trende thinks the toss ups are more likely to break for the Dems. I think they're more likely to break for the GOP. My sitting at a bar reasoning for this is (1) recent events, on net, seem to be favoring the GOP, and (2) scant data on early voting seems to be in line with the older, whiter demographic typical of midterms, which may indicate that pollsters are slightly overestimating the Dems' enthusiasm advantage in their sampling.

Elaborating a bit more on the first point, several recent issues have played to GOP strengths: the hot economy (highlighting GOP tax cuts and polling indicating higher trust in GOP on managing the economy), Kavanaugh smear blowback (highlighting the Dems' mob tactics and disregard for due process), and the caravans (highlighting Dems' weakness on immigration and American's desire for stronger border enforcement).

So we'll see. I think the Dems pick up 19 in the House and the GOP picks up 4 in the Senate. But I wouldn't be shocked if the Dems pick up 30 in the House. I would be shocked if the GOP picks up fewer than 2 Senate seats.

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« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2018, 12:00:56 PM »
turnout is crazy this year, i can't even imagine how hard it is to try and model it.  pollsters are very good at their jobs though.
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« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2018, 12:20:59 PM »
Seems a little premature to be talking about the voter turnout this year, imho
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« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2018, 12:24:16 PM »
Seems a little premature to be talking about the voter turnout this year, imho

in the context of poll modelling, it'll be too late to talk about it by next week.
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« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2018, 12:25:04 PM »
Lol
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« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2018, 12:28:59 PM »
Yeah, no way that will be a subject of discussion in the context of modelling
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« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2018, 01:04:30 PM »
It's good news for Beto, I don't really draw any conclusions for anyone else

You guys are very sensitive about data, yikes
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« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2018, 01:59:03 PM »
@sys

https://twitter.com/tbonier/status/1057097823953567744

you think this is good news for libs libliblibliblibliblib,  :lol:

drawing 0 conclusions I would say that increased voter turnout is good for america in general

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« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2018, 02:05:44 PM »
It's good news for Beto, I don't really draw any conclusions for anyone else

You guys are very sensitive about data, yikes

If voters over 65 were already outvoting voters under 30 by 3 to 1 or more, I'd say it's bad news for Beto. I have no idea what normal ratio is, though.

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« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2018, 02:11:06 PM »
The increased turnout in general is good for him, unless you think people are rushing to vote for Ted cruz. The next tweet in the thread has Hispanics up 214%

It's still likely not enough for him to win though.
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