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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1825 on: October 12, 2015, 12:41:47 PM »
Tom Herman should be offered the job as soon as the final regular season game ends, if not before.

It won't happen of course, but it should.


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« Reply #1826 on: October 12, 2015, 01:03:48 PM »
Firmly team ck7 with arthur as d co and k lock running special teams

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1827 on: October 12, 2015, 01:28:44 PM »
Scott Frost would be fantastic

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« Reply #1830 on: October 12, 2015, 03:15:16 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

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« Reply #1831 on: October 12, 2015, 03:19:15 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

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« Reply #1832 on: October 12, 2015, 03:36:13 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1833 on: October 12, 2015, 03:36:53 PM »
USC job is officially open.


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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1834 on: October 12, 2015, 03:37:27 PM »
@USC_Athletics: USC athletic director Pat Haden announces the termination of Steve Sarkisian as head football coach: http://t.co/KrqKSEf2hG


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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1835 on: October 12, 2015, 03:41:43 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?

They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.

USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.

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« Reply #1836 on: October 12, 2015, 04:04:33 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?

They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.

USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.

Sark is a horrible example because he was formally an assistant there and no one else even wanted to take him away from Washington, he was a less accomplished Mike Gundy.

KSU is absolutely a place that Herman would be interested in, just as McElwein would have been if a job like Florida wasn't available. I can't think of a single power 5 coach right now that USC boosters would want that isn't either an alum where he is or someone who isn't tied to a region that isn't southern California. Sonny Dikes would probably go but I don't think USC people would want him and his style. Kyle Wittingham?

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1837 on: October 12, 2015, 04:18:33 PM »
I honestly don't see us getting a P5 coach from a program any better than ours. However, USC poaching another P5 coach means a vacancy from another school who we would be competing with, so it's kind of a moot point.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1838 on: October 12, 2015, 04:26:45 PM »
If Currie wins the battle of attrition he's going to come right out of the gate blasting $2.9 to $3.5 million a year at a Tom Herman type.   

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1839 on: October 12, 2015, 04:29:54 PM »
Sarkisian seems like a Currie type of guy
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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1840 on: October 12, 2015, 04:30:45 PM »
Minus the drunk on the job thing, you mean?

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1841 on: October 12, 2015, 04:31:56 PM »
no because of it
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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1842 on: October 12, 2015, 04:33:22 PM »
I honestly don't see us getting a P5 coach from a program any better than ours.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1843 on: October 12, 2015, 04:35:36 PM »
If Currie wins the battle of attrition he's going to come right out of the gate blasting $2.9 to $3.5 million a year at a Tom Herman type.   

If we're willing to swing for the fences on Herman, I'm all for it.  I'm also pretty high on Justin Fuente.

I guess my Top 3 right now would be:

1) Herman
2) Fuente
3) Venables

I think we'll be a fairly attractive job with the amount of quality youth on this team, especially at QB with Delton and Thompson, and the recent facility upgrades.  A strong recruiter could easily augment the talent here and win quickly.  This is the perfect job for a Fuente or Herman.  Moderate/Attainable expectations, big money, low media spotlight, school willing to throw tens of millions at the program, etc.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1844 on: October 12, 2015, 04:36:36 PM »
Fuente has the added bonus of being turned down by KU.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1845 on: October 12, 2015, 04:38:07 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?

They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.

USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.

Sark is a horrible example because he was formally an assistant there and no one else even wanted to take him away from Washington, he was a less accomplished Mike Gundy.

KSU is absolutely a place that Herman would be interested in, just as McElwein would have been if a job like Florida wasn't available. I can't think of a single power 5 coach right now that USC boosters would want that isn't either an alum where he is or someone who isn't tied to a region that isn't southern California. Sonny Dikes would probably go but I don't think USC people would want him and his style. Kyle Wittingham?

Possibly a guy like Dan Mullen, too. (USC is tricky because it's such a unique/isolated region without many natural candidates).

Re: Herman and McElwein, I'm not entirely sure. It may make more sense to cash in after year one or two at a smaller school than hold out for a better job. But like zack said, when USC is open, dominoes will fall all over the place and who knows what jobs will be open.

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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1846 on: October 12, 2015, 04:41:36 PM »
Fuente has the added bonus of being turned down by KU.

Obviously.

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« Reply #1847 on: October 12, 2015, 04:42:38 PM »
Remember when Frank said Underwood should be the next hoops coach at KSU? Is no one concerned about a similar situation here?

Edit: I mean, obviously Sean would come back to us even if he turned into a total stud HC somewhere else.
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Re: Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread
« Reply #1848 on: October 12, 2015, 04:52:59 PM »
Has anyone mailed catastrophe his brown belt yet?
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« Reply #1849 on: October 12, 2015, 04:53:34 PM »
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.

We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.

Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?

They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.

USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.

Sark is a horrible example because he was formally an assistant there and no one else even wanted to take him away from Washington, he was a less accomplished Mike Gundy.

KSU is absolutely a place that Herman would be interested in, just as McElwein would have been if a job like Florida wasn't available. I can't think of a single power 5 coach right now that USC boosters would want that isn't either an alum where he is or someone who isn't tied to a region that isn't southern California. Sonny Dikes would probably go but I don't think USC people would want him and his style. Kyle Wittingham?

Possibly a guy like Dan Mullen, too. (USC is tricky because it's such a unique/isolated region without many natural candidates).

Re: Herman and McElwein, I'm not entirely sure. It may make more sense to cash in after year one or two at a smaller school than hold out for a better job. But like zack said, when USC is open, dominoes will fall all over the place and who knows what jobs will be open.

Mullen is a good one, he hasn't been in the SEC as long as I thought he has. Although Mississippi State to USC isn't the huge jump it appears to. The USC job is more attractive if they fire Haden and hire a new AD before they hire a coach. The next guy will be their 5th coach in 3 seasons. Their last three hires; Carroll, Kiffin, and Sark don't scream elite program who can get whomever they want. Their last two AD's have been pretty awful.