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LeBron brought a lot of the hate on himself. He calls himself "The King". I mean wtf?
I just think lebron isn't very competitive.
Quote from: Cire on July 02, 2012, 09:58:14 PMI just think lebron isn't very competitive. 5th most points scored in an NBA playoffs series. And he has a lot of years left.
Quote from: Jakesie60 on July 02, 2012, 10:00:46 PMQuote from: Cire on July 02, 2012, 09:58:14 PMI just think lebron isn't very competitive. 5th most points scored in an NBA playoffs series. And he has a lot of years left.That's sort of a meaningless stat, though, because some playoff series have more games than others, and the best teams finish their series in fewer games.
Quote from: Jakesie60 on July 02, 2012, 09:42:15 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:52:42 PMQuote from: michigancat on July 02, 2012, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:42:08 PMQuote from: asava on July 02, 2012, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?What has KD accomplished that Lebron didn't at Cleveland?Nothing, but he will win a championship for OKC very soon.If Lebron would have been surrounded by Westbrook, Perkins, Ibaka and Harden, he would have won a championship. The Thunder without Lebron would easily be better than Cleveland without Lebron.How could they possibly have gotten all of that talent to OKC (smaller market than Cleveland)? Everyone keeps saying that Cleveland never would have gotten any talent and that Lebron would have never won a championship there. I think he would have, fwiw, but apparently Lebron did not.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:52:42 PMQuote from: michigancat on July 02, 2012, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:42:08 PMQuote from: asava on July 02, 2012, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?What has KD accomplished that Lebron didn't at Cleveland?Nothing, but he will win a championship for OKC very soon.If Lebron would have been surrounded by Westbrook, Perkins, Ibaka and Harden, he would have won a championship. The Thunder without Lebron would easily be better than Cleveland without Lebron.
Quote from: michigancat on July 02, 2012, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:42:08 PMQuote from: asava on July 02, 2012, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?What has KD accomplished that Lebron didn't at Cleveland?Nothing, but he will win a championship for OKC very soon.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:42:08 PMQuote from: asava on July 02, 2012, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?What has KD accomplished that Lebron didn't at Cleveland?
Quote from: asava on July 02, 2012, 07:39:31 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 02, 2012, 07:25:08 PMQuote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.
Quote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PMSee, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere. Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals. "The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.
See, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything. What an bad person.
only an idiot would have stayed in the shithole that is Cleveland. those sewer rats should feel blessed that James didn't bolt earlier.
not knowing much about the NBA but a starting 5 next year for the Heat ofDuane WadeRay AllenLeBron JamesChris BoshRashard Lewisseems like they will win some games. does Lewis start? i have no idea. looks a little over the hill.
not knowing much about the NBA but a starting 5 next year for the Heat ofDuane WadeRay AllenMario ChalmersLeBron JamesChris BoshRashard Lewis Someone elseseems like they will win some games. does Lewis start? i have no idea. looks a little over the hill.
Quote from: mcmwcat on July 12, 2012, 08:19:19 AMnot knowing much about the NBA but a starting 5 next year for the Heat ofDuane WadeRay AllenLeBron JamesChris BoshRashard Lewisseems like they will win some games. does Lewis start? i have no idea. looks a little over the hill.I fear the moves that the Lakers are making could take OKC out of the picture next year. If they get dwight, game over. Even without him...BynumGasolBryantNash META yikes
Quote from: asava on July 12, 2012, 10:24:59 AMQuote from: mcmwcat on July 12, 2012, 08:19:19 AMnot knowing much about the NBA but a starting 5 next year for the Heat ofDuane WadeRay AllenLeBron JamesChris BoshRashard Lewisseems like they will win some games. does Lewis start? i have no idea. looks a little over the hill.I fear the moves that the Lakers are making could take OKC out of the picture next year. If they get dwight, game over. Even without him...BynumGasolBryantNash META yikesnash is an awful idea for the lakers. he can't guard westbrook. sefalosia maybe. harden, LOL
Lakers/Heat Finals will be great. White midwesterners who hate Lebron and hate Dwight Howard will have no one to root for.
If it were up to me, Wintz would be on a fan scholarship, full ride.