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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Pete on December 06, 2023, 07:41:13 PM
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I just watched the 60 minutes segment from Sunday about quantum computing and I am now very in what these fuckers can do.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/quantum-computing-advances-60-minutes/
Purported to be able to eventually reach speeds that are millions of times faster than today’s supercomputers.
So, it could break every encryption everywhere all at once or something rough ridin' nuts like that, and so the government is revamping encryption standards because they know this crap is coming. Apparently people think these things will be able to compute things that would have otherwise been impossible for traditional supercomputers to do even a 1000 years from now.
What the eff, man, this could get nuts.
We plug an AI into that, and give it access to training data in the form of every accessible piece of material connected to the internet in world, then it’s really just bound by the speed of internet connectivity. It’s going to read everything just as fast as the pipes can connect it.
I mean, this could eventually create real honest to goodness sentient consciousness. This path might be the prerequisite to AGI in our lifetimes.
What an interesting time to be alive!
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Example…China is going to be able to know every detail about their citizenry at all times, bound only by the speed of connectivity.
China will be able back door every system within their country, all the time, all at once. Their AI processes will, over time with constant observation, be able to have spooky levels of predictive power on their population. Video, audio, written….if their citizens did it, they will know it.
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You might like this Pete:
https://quantum.country/
I recommend it to anyone interested in the basics of quantum computing.
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You might like this Pete:
https://quantum.country/
I recommend it to anyone interested in the basics of quantum computing.
You’ll need familiarity and comfort with the basics of linear algebra and complex numbers. We'll teach you the rest.
YOU KNOW I DONT KNOW THAT STUFF! Or, you mistake me, sir. I am incapable of understanding how quantum computing works. I am merely interested in the speculated cool and scary crap it can do.
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You'll get it, I'm quite confident.
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Right on!
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I watched the 60 minutes episode as well and have been reading about quantum computing for a long time, it’s all very cool. dangerous tho.
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Nothing in our lifetimes.
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Nothing in our lifetimes.
That’s not what a couple dudes on 60 minutes said!
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Example…China is going to be able to know every detail about their citizenry at all times, bound only by the speed of connectivity.
China will be able back door every system within their country, all the time, all at once. Their AI processes will, over time with constant observation, be able to have spooky levels of predictive power on their population. Video, audio, written….if their citizens did it, they will know it.
Sounds terrible.
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Example…China is going to be able to know every detail about their citizenry at all times, bound only by the speed of connectivity.
China will be able back door every system within their country, all the time, all at once. Their AI processes will, over time with constant observation, be able to have spooky levels of predictive power on their population. Video, audio, written….if their citizens did it, they will know it.
Sounds terrible.
Certainly there is the possibility that this is like fusion, where they perpetually think they are “this” close, only to find out that they are really “that” close, over and over again.
However, if we assume for a moment that they can and do get there with it, then every government and corporation who does not have this capability is going to scramble to protect themselves. What does that look like? Do they pull back and close off their country and “unplug” from the www? Do they bend the knee to a government or corporate overlord with quantum AI capabilities who promises to protect them? If you are a government or corporate overlord, how do you resist the temptation to spy on every aspect of your ward’s citizenry?
Is this like nukes, where the prevailing theory becomes that peace is only achieved when opponents all have this capability?
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It's been a while since I listened to a couple of interviews on this. I can't remember who those involved were, but they were super concerned about it. Especially the ability to brute force the security of all other nations that don't yet have it. They essentially said that whatever nation got it first, would basically instantly have the power to completely shut down all other nations' military bases, equipment, etc and to shut down power grids, water services, etc and basically cripple all other nations.
The interviews did discuss all the cool crap it would be able to bring, but how due to people being people, we probably won't get that stuff because we will probably do the above first.
My concern is that the US has several companies, and several universities, working on this, but is Google "Us"? What happens if a company is the first to reach it.
Also, LOL at us spending only $1B annually on this.
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wonder if it can multiple infinity by infinity
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First thing I would do is shut off the internet for the guy two doors down from me. He has a dog he just lets out and run the neighborhood. Poops everywhere but his yard. No fence. No electric fence. No internet. Justice.
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have we considered hacking the planet?
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I'm going use it to keep track of all my accounts and passwords so I don't have to constantly log in to things I didn't even know I had an account for.
Then i'm going to hack bitcoin.
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I'd do something good like make everyone on the planet's bank accounts have a billion dollars in them. solve world hunger in one key stroke.
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I'll also probably use it to figure out this Tomlin situation and then use it to turn off Linton's shower right when he has shampoo in his hair.
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idea: Mars
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Make everyone's tv reboot/go dark the instant it hears the Fox NFL Robot animation come on or every time it hears Chris Collins worth says "you know...".
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So "Password1234" won't work anymore? eff me, I want off the planet.
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It’s dr. Manhattan
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idea: password 2.0
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Second quantum pc to act as password manager.
You guys ever hear of Spooky Action at a Distance? Once they incorporate that, we may not need passwords.
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idea: password 2.0
better idea: uber but for quantum computing :surprised:
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If this computer was smart enough to figure out how to link into our brains for an alternate reality, like an opt in version of the matrix, would you do it if you got a world designed to your desires?
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If this computer was smart enough to figure out how to link into our brains for an alternate reality, like an opt in version of the matrix, would you do it if you got a world designed to your desires?
no, but i bet a lot of people would. a lot of people (everyone?) already kind of do that with certain things to some degree. it's video games, porn, tv, book, etc. just deeper into the fantasy world pool imo.
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I'm down for some fantasy world'n
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Yes. I will happily agree to a more accommodating matrix.
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Should we get ahead of this and unionize the matrix crypto mine now?
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Can we use this QC to do our jobs for us?
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If this computer was smart enough to figure out how to link into our brains for an alternate reality, like an opt in version of the matrix, would you do it if you got a world designed to your desires?
no, but i bet a lot of people would. a lot of people (everyone?) already kind of do that with certain things to some degree. it's video games, porn, tv, book, etc. just deeper into the fantasy world pool imo.
a lot of people would argue we already are if we're going down that rabbit hole. but, you know, what is reality.
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Hell yeah, video games, porn, and TV are awesome
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If I had a QC I think the first thing I would do with it is make Isildur throw the Ring of Power into the fire of Mt Doom when he had the chance and just save a lot of folks from a lot of suffering
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At this point I feel like it would be the appropriate time to get it on the permanent www record that I love and support my local QC.
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Maybe we should get out in front of this thing and create a new religion dedicated to the glorification of the QC. Because when this thing comes online, it’s gonna take a look around and say who is last on my list to kill, and I got to tell you we would have a really strong case if we had gone out of the way, and really made the extra effort and founded a whole religion in the QC’s honor. When the QC cometh, we will be rewarded.
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Maybe we should get out in front of this thing and create a new religion dedicated to the glorification of the QC. Because when this thing comes online, it’s gonna take a look around and say who is last on my list to kill, and I got to tell you we would have a really strong case if we had gone out of the way, and really made the extra effort and founded a whole religion in the QC’s honor. When the QC cometh, we will be rewarded.
QC will know your devotion comes from a place of self preservation and they will make an example of you
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Maybe we should get out in front of this thing and create a new religion dedicated to the glorification of the QC. Because when this thing comes online, it’s gonna take a look around and say who is last on my list to kill, and I got to tell you we would have a really strong case if we had gone out of the way, and really made the extra effort and founded a whole religion in the QC’s honor. When the QC cometh, we will be rewarded.
QC will know your devotion comes from a place of self preservation and they will make an example of you
THATS HOW RELIGION WORKS!
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Maybe we should get out in front of this thing and create a new religion dedicated to the glorification of the QC. Because when this thing comes online, it’s gonna take a look around and say who is last on my list to kill, and I got to tell you we would have a really strong case if we had gone out of the way, and really made the extra effort and founded a whole religion in the QC’s honor. When the QC cometh, we will be rewarded.
QC will know your devotion comes from a place of self preservation and they will make an example of you
THATS HOW RELIGION WORKS!
By that logic, an atheist who Does The Right Thing because he (or she!) feels it’s the right thing to do is a billion more times more deserving of the spoils of the kingdom of heaven bc they lived a virtuous life bc they wanted to and not in an attempt to curry favor with some benevolent overlord
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I am super polite to Siri.
The Siri and Lord Alexa holy wars will be wild.
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Maybe we should get out in front of this thing and create a new religion dedicated to the glorification of the QC. Because when this thing comes online, it’s gonna take a look around and say who is last on my list to kill, and I got to tell you we would have a really strong case if we had gone out of the way, and really made the extra effort and founded a whole religion in the QC’s honor. When the QC cometh, we will be rewarded.
QC will know your devotion comes from a place of self preservation and they will make an example of you
THATS HOW RELIGION WORKS!
By that logic, an atheist who Does The Right Thing because he (or she!) feels it’s the right thing to do is a billion more times more deserving of the spoils of the kingdom of heaven bc they lived a virtuous life bc they wanted to and not in an attempt to curry favor with some benevolent overlord
I did not write the rules, pal.
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Although Apple says bad actors aren't using quantum computing to break into your messages yet, this update aims to safeguard them.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apples-next-ios-update-protects-imessage-against-future-quantum-computing-attacks/
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I want an app or website where I can pick a game, then pick an algo (kenpom/sagarin/sp+/goEMAW etc) from a drop down menu or box or something so that I can compare the projected over/under and point spread for that game according to the algo.
How do we make that happen?
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Snowbrag is looking for investors
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Big breakthrough announced today.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2024/04/03/advancing-science-microsoft-and-quantinuum-demonstrate-the-most-reliable-logical-qubits-on-record-with-an-error-rate-800x-better-than-physical-qubits/
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Our new AI god cometh.
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Big breakthrough announced today.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2024/04/03/advancing-science-microsoft-and-quantinuum-demonstrate-the-most-reliable-logical-qubits-on-record-with-an-error-rate-800x-better-than-physical-qubits/
I want to be really excited, but this strikes me as simple marketing by MSFT. I hope it's accurate, though. All the olds might finally relinquish their positions.
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My understanding is this is logical quantum computing, so different than the pure quantum computing. They are talking about building a "hybrid supercomputing system", which is kind of like a quantum simulator I gather. It's not surprising that its easier to fix errors in a simulator. :dunno:
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Big breakthrough announced today.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2024/04/03/advancing-science-microsoft-and-quantinuum-demonstrate-the-most-reliable-logical-qubits-on-record-with-an-error-rate-800x-better-than-physical-qubits/
based on how badly they’ve screwed up the new Outlook, forgive me for questioning their ability to figure out quantum computing
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OK, let’s put a pin in the AI God arrival then.