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That's a poor analogy. If you want to stick with RP, it'd be that he as theoretically near the end of year 4 with the 4th year having gone ridiculously worse than the first shitty 3 to where KSU was at risk of somehow not even having football going forward if he kept at it, and the options were keep him or hire whoever was the most basic, old, safe out-of-work coach at the time.And of course the choice would be to hire Coach Basic and at least end the crap show and reset normalcy for a more winning selection after a few years.
Quote from: Trim on October 21, 2020, 12:10:11 AMThat's a poor analogy. If you want to stick with RP, it'd be that he as theoretically near the end of year 4 with the 4th year having gone ridiculously worse than the first shitty 3 to where KSU was at risk of somehow not even having football going forward if he kept at it, and the options were keep him or hire whoever was the most basic, old, safe out-of-work coach at the time.And of course the choice would be to hire Coach Basic and at least end the crap show and reset normalcy for a more winning selection after a few years.iirc, kstate did decide to rehire coach basic and it worked out ok.
i agree with ipa and tdaver that voting in a non-competitive state is entirely expressive, and one need not weigh any of the considerations with which voters in competitive states are burdened or privileged.in several previous elections i've voted for presidential candidates i did not actually wish to win, because i thought it best allowed me to express the direction i would prefer politics to shift. i did that in 2016, and don't regret it.in 2020, i voted for biden because the most important message i most wished to express is complete rejection of trump, trumpism, the lawless corruption, cruelty and incompetence that have characterized his presidency and the falsity of the incoherent and ignorant idea that both candidates and current iterations of both parties are in any way moral equivalents.
in 2020, i voted for biden because the most important message i most wished to express is complete rejection of trump, trumpism, the lawless corruption, cruelty and incompetence that have characterized his presidency and the falsity of the incoherent and ignorant idea that both candidates and current iterations of both parties are in any way moral equivalents.
This is exactly my motivation. Pure repudiation. also i want to contribute to the margin of victory in the hopes of avoiding a controversial outcome
Quote from: wetwillie on October 20, 2020, 09:47:42 PMQuote from: chum1 on October 20, 2020, 09:45:03 PMHillary had a lead in the polls in 2016 and lost by a slim margin. Biden has a much bigger, much more stable lead in the polls in 2020. Pretty straightforward.Yes I agree with you and Chingon that trump has a good chance of winningIf Trump wins, his chance of winning today is close to 100%. Same for Biden. Think about what type of cosmic event would have to occur in the next two weeks to change the outcome.
Quote from: chum1 on October 20, 2020, 09:45:03 PMHillary had a lead in the polls in 2016 and lost by a slim margin. Biden has a much bigger, much more stable lead in the polls in 2020. Pretty straightforward.Yes I agree with you and Chingon that trump has a good chance of winning
Hillary had a lead in the polls in 2016 and lost by a slim margin. Biden has a much bigger, much more stable lead in the polls in 2020. Pretty straightforward.
If my 401K collapses, I'm kicking all of your margin of victory asses.
Quote from: IPA4Me on October 21, 2020, 06:36:45 AMIf my 401K collapses, I'm kicking all of your margin of victory asses. Do you think a Biden win might cause a stock market crash?
Quote from: michigancat on October 21, 2020, 07:44:59 AMQuote from: IPA4Me on October 21, 2020, 06:36:45 AMIf my 401K collapses, I'm kicking all of your margin of victory asses. Do you think a Biden win might cause a stock market crash?It's accepted fact in conservative circles that Biden is going to to confiscate 401k's.
Anybody that ignores all that is Donald Trump and what he's shown you he is over 4 years because their 401k might drop a bit are really the worst people.
So, I was very nervous in 16 and thought that in the end "good" people would reject trump. That didn't happen and now it's hard to relax even with all the indicators showing a clear Biden win.Two things give me pause. 1) trump supporters absolutely lie to pollsters. I think this has moved the last 4 years from "shy" Trump supporters to now it's trolls thinking they are sabotaging the establishment. Who knows how big of a segment this is. 2) Biden is not doing much campaigning. It's obviously a different situation than 16, and I think enthusiasm to vote against trump is high enough to offset this.I definitely feel more confident this election, but I won't at all be surprised to see trump win.
Quote from: star seed 7 on October 21, 2020, 09:26:37 AMSo, I was very nervous in 16 and thought that in the end "good" people would reject trump. That didn't happen and now it's hard to relax even with all the indicators showing a clear Biden win.Two things give me pause. 1) trump supporters absolutely lie to pollsters. I think this has moved the last 4 years from "shy" Trump supporters to now it's trolls thinking they are sabotaging the establishment. Who knows how big of a segment this is. 2) Biden is not doing much campaigning. It's obviously a different situation than 16, and I think enthusiasm to vote against trump is high enough to offset this.I definitely feel more confident this election, but I won't at all be surprised to see trump win.I think there are a lot of people still answering "voting for Trump" but in the end will just pull back and not vote. Similar to HilDog in 16
Quote from: Trim on October 20, 2020, 06:44:12 PMI’d normally vote 3rd party or Tom or whoever, especially in a safe state, but it’s too important this time to run up the score and try to reduce the chances of anything mumped up happening and get back to semi-normal. Tom and others can have my vote next time it’s two relative normals running.Yeah, no shot I'm voting for Kamala in '24.
I’d normally vote 3rd party or Tom or whoever, especially in a safe state, but it’s too important this time to run up the score and try to reduce the chances of anything mumped up happening and get back to semi-normal. Tom and others can have my vote next time it’s two relative normals running.
A lot can happen in 4 years but I don't see how republicans can avoid trump 40%'ing his way through the primary again. He's literally the leader of a cult.