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I imagine mental illness is a factor in the vast majority of these. I wouldn’t necessarily read that much into the parenting other than the fact that many left guns accesible for their crazy kids.
I'm hearing they both Crumbled within the first few minutes of questioning.
. When asked to take their child home for the rest of the day, Throne said the student’s parents “flatly refused,” leaving their son behind to “return to work.” And because the student had no prior disciplinary actions on his record, school counselors decided to allow him to return to his class, rather than send him to what they thought would be an empty home, Throne explained.
. Then on Tuesday -- the day of the shooting -- a teacher alerted school counselors and the Dean of students to "concerning drawings and written statements" that the student had created, according to the letter. He was "immediately removed from the classroom" and taken to a guidance counselor's office, Throne explains.The student told a school counselor that "the drawing was part of a video game he was designing and informed counselors that he planned to pursue video game design as a career," Throne said.Following that discussion, the student stayed in the office for an hour and half as school staff called his parents and waited for them to arrive to the school, the letter noted. While waiting the student said he was concerned about missing his homework assignments and "requested his science homework, which he then worked on while in the office," the letter said."At no time did counselors believe the student might harm others based on his behavior, responses and demeanor, which Then on Tuesday -- the day of the shooting -- a teacher alerted school counselors and the Dean of students to "concerning drawings and written statements" that the student had created, according to the letter. He was "immediately removed from the classroom" and taken to a guidance counselor's office, Throne explains.The student told a school counselor that "the drawing was part of a video game he was designing and informed counselors that he planned to pursue video game design as a career," Throne said.Following that discussion, the student stayed in the office for an hour and half as school staff called his parents and waited for them to arrive to the school, the letter noted. While waiting the student said he was concerned about missing his homework assignments and "requested his science homework, which he then worked on while in the office," the letter said. “At no time did counselors believe the student might harm others based on his behavior, responses and demeanor, which appeared calm," Throne said. calm," Throne said.
Quote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 08:46:51 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 08:15:46 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 07:34:45 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 07:31:06 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.Well…..good?i'm just saying that making some types of gun prohibitively expensive while not making all other guns so expensive that "normal" gunowners get super mad is probably even harder than just outlawing a few types of guns.I’m good with either. Probably need to try something at some point imo.TBH if we wouldn't do anything after Sandy Hook we never will.
Quote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 08:15:46 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 07:34:45 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 07:31:06 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.Well…..good?i'm just saying that making some types of gun prohibitively expensive while not making all other guns so expensive that "normal" gunowners get super mad is probably even harder than just outlawing a few types of guns.I’m good with either. Probably need to try something at some point imo.
Quote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 07:34:45 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 07:31:06 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.Well…..good?i'm just saying that making some types of gun prohibitively expensive while not making all other guns so expensive that "normal" gunowners get super mad is probably even harder than just outlawing a few types of guns.
Quote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 07:31:06 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.Well…..good?
Quote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.
shotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.
Quote from: michigancat on December 02, 2021, 08:56:37 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 08:46:51 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 08:15:46 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 07:34:45 PMQuote from: sys on December 02, 2021, 07:31:06 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PMshotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR crap loads.guns are unlike cars in that most of the time when they're used to kill people, it is intentional. so i suspect that if different types of guns were treated significantly differently, people wishing to use them to kill people would switch to the type favored by law, even if it was not the best tool for killing people available to them.Well…..good?i'm just saying that making some types of gun prohibitively expensive while not making all other guns so expensive that "normal" gunowners get super mad is probably even harder than just outlawing a few types of guns.I’m good with either. Probably need to try something at some point imo.TBH if we wouldn't do anything after Sandy Hook we never will.Yup, been thinking/saying that for years. When you slaughter a bunch of young kids and the reflexive response is crisis actors and arm teachers the plot is lost and nothing is ever going to happen
Quote from: Institutional Control on November 26, 2019, 10:54:13 AMQuote from: steve dave on August 05, 2019, 02:58:22 PMferal hog guy is doubling downhttps://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158099893615026177https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158087296681480193https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158100627462995968Egg on steve dave's face.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wild-hogs-kill-woman-attack-outside-texas-home-sheriff-says-n1091216https://twitter.com/mgnkngsbry/status/1211368620858707972
Quote from: steve dave on August 05, 2019, 02:58:22 PMferal hog guy is doubling downhttps://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158099893615026177https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158087296681480193https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158100627462995968Egg on steve dave's face.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wild-hogs-kill-woman-attack-outside-texas-home-sheriff-says-n1091216
feral hog guy is doubling downhttps://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158099893615026177https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158087296681480193https://twitter.com/WillieMcNabb/status/1158100627462995968
Weird. I thought most of them plead quilty to avoid the death penalty for some reason.
sounds like staff should be ok, but haven't been much update on the shooter.