Shockers

[catzacker]

i could be wrong but i don't think most people look at the strength of schedule thing in a way that i think is most important.  at this point in the season, the biggest issue w/ SoS is the cumulative effect (or lack thereof) that playing shitty teams all season has on a team, not the singular event of playing a shitty team on a random tuesday night.  the opposite is true of those teams playing in tougher conferences.  i know it's obvious but i'm not sure people really consider it a whole lot when having these discussions.

Seems like there are examples on both sides of that - #2 Missouri losing in the 2nd round and of course KU losing in the 2nd or 3rd round after playing in the Big 12.

The biggest difference b/t WSU's schedule last year and this year, is not playing Creighton 3x.  Three games against Creighton, who lost their 2nd NCAA game, will make all of the difference?

Florida Gulf Coast last year smoking #2 Georgetown after playing in the Atlantic Sun.

past tourney performance should have no bearing on current tourney seeding.  what you earn/do in this season should be the only thing evaluated.   

[PvtLamb]

past tourney performance should have no bearing on current tourney seeding.  what you earn/do in this season should be the only thing evaluated.

Of course.   I was responding to the thought that the cumulative effect of playing weak teams in the regular season doesn't prepare a team for the NCAA tournament.   There are facts on both sides of that, so I am not sure you can draw a firm conclusion. 

[catzacker]

past tourney performance should have no bearing on current tourney seeding.  what you earn/do in this season should be the only thing evaluated.

Of course.   I was responding to the thought that the cumulative effect of playing weak teams in the regular season doesn't prepare a team for the NCAA tournament.   There are facts on both sides of that, so I am not sure you can draw a firm conclusion.

I think clams point was in regards to how you would evaluate the "merits" of a team in a shitty conference (and their resulting unblemished record) vs. a team in a tough conference (that has some losses) in order to determine their seeding. 

[Trim]

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[kso_FAN]

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The Incredible SHOCK!

[Prince McJunkins]

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Wichita State0?

[Trogdor]

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Wichita State0?

[BackPayne]

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Hey WSU, just wait until footba...well nevermind.

[Spracne]

Is Tina Turner  a WSU alumna?

[nicname]

I wish EMAWs weren't so butthurt over WSU's success. It makes the KU butthurt much less enjoyable.

[Pete]

Is Tina Turner  a WSU alumna?

muscly Tina Turner holding a Jayhawk and a purple fox.

[Trim]

I wish EMAWs weren't so butthurt over WSU's success. It makes the KU butthurt much less enjoyable.

Alright, I guess I'll stop painting this giant anti-WSU portrait I was in the middle of that was going to hang in Tubby's.

[Trim]

Gottlieb vs. Lutz today was fun.

[nicname]

Gottlieb vs. Lutz today was fun.

Really surprised you didn't jump on that ample @ing opportunity.

[Trim]

Gottlieb vs. Lutz today was fun.

Really surprised you didn't jump on that ample @ing opportunity.

They were mostly @'n each other by the time I was aware of it.

The interview's on here: http://gottlieb.radio.cbssports.com/audio/1730-doug-gottlieb-interviews/

[nicname]

Gottlieb vs. Lutz today was fun.

Really surprised you didn't jump on that ample @ing opportunity.

They were mostly @'n each other by the time I was aware of it.

The interview's on here: http://gottlieb.radio.cbssports.com/audio/1730-doug-gottlieb-interviews/

oscar n Bob are trying to get Doug on "Sports Daily" tomorrow morning.

[star seed 7]

I wish EMAWs weren't so butthurt over WSU's success. It makes the KU butthurt much less enjoyable.

go shox 

[cork_sniffer]

BPI has the shockers at #7 which IMO is closer to reality.  They are a solid team with veteran and experienced players who haven't let a game slip against second rate competition.  They haven't played enough tournament teams though to give them the clout needed for a 1 seed in my book.  The committee shouldn't award them for playing a soft schedule and not losing, precisely the opposite: no 1 seed for super weak scheduling teams from horrible conferences regardless of record (set a precedent).  Marshall needs to get off his high horse and play some road games at major schools if he wants to avoid this in the future.

[pissclams]

BPI has the shockers at #7 which IMO is closer to reality.  They are a solid team with veteran and experienced players who haven't let a game slip against second rate competition.  They haven't played enough tournament teams though to give them the clout needed for a 1 seed in my book.  The committee shouldn't award them for playing a soft schedule and not losing, precisely the opposite: no 1 seed for super weak scheduling teams from horrible conferences regardless of record (set a precedent).  Marshall needs to get off his high horse and play some road games at major schools if he wants to avoid this in the future.

the precedent has already been set, you go undefeated and you get a 1 seed.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Wackeycat just messed his shorts on that Ron Baker jam

[sonofdaxjones]

Got a pickle of a situation.   

While watching some of the WuShuck vs another sub .500 team game last night, I noticed 2 WuShuckers sitting in the endzone seats at the Bradley Arena, I believe it was at the Bradley bench end.  Every time the WuShucks on the floor would do something well, which was fairly often as WuShuck basketball is good and Bradley is a sub .500 team.   The two WuShuck fans in the end zone would stand up and taunt the crowd and/or turn and point up what seemed to be a contingent up WuShuck fans sitting in the nose bleeds. 

I am perplexed by my reaction, as my initial thought was that those two were a couple of dorks, but then I thought about that the fact that WuShuck hoops was going for 30 wins, but then I thought about how Bradley is pretty crappy and then I thought about why I would be concerned about the 2 WuShuck dorks at all . . .

Like I said, a pickle.   

[emawmason]

Wichita State is the best team in the state this year and it's really not even close. 

They have the better of the two Wiggins bros, Baker is a better shooter than anybody on our or ku's roster, Early is probably the best player to step foot in Kansas since Beasley and VanVleet is a very solid point guard...

Even though it'll be a rough year for the boys in purple, I'm glad to see baby bro having some success even if it rips the hearts out of lil bro to play second fiddle to an MVC team.

Are you serious? Early is the best player in Kansas since Beasley? Andrew Wiggins' brother is better than him? So many things wrong with that post. KU would win at least 8/10 times, for us the 'cats would probably go 5-5.

[AbeFroman]

WSU vs ku in the tournament would be hilarious. 

[sunny_cat]

WSU vs ku in the tournament would be hilarious. 

I would TSC my face off.

[#LIFE]

WSU vs ku in the tournament would be hilarious. 

It's a win/win deal