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Title: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
You never know if this may come in handy.

Arkansas - Mike Anderson
Tennessee - Cuonzo Martin
Georgia Tech - Brian Gregory
Texas Tech - Billy Gillespie
Oklahoma - Lon Kruger
Missouri - Frank Haith (What?)
NC State - Mark Gottfried (I have no idea what's going on here)
UNLV - David Rice
MIAMI!!!1!!! -  Jim Larranaga
Maryland - Mark Turgeon
Texas A&M - ??????

Any other big jobs I'm missing right now?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2011, 09:50:12 AM
ou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
You never know if this may come in handy.

Arkansas - Mike Anderson
Tennessee - Cuanzo Martin
Georgia Tech - Brian Gregory
Missouri - ??????
NC State - ??????

Any other big jobs I'm missing right now?

Are we only going to be monitoring/mocking openings, or can we discuss hot seats/coaches possibly leaving?

Other opening = OU

Purdue could be a decent draw if Painter does leave(no way he does leave for MU)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2011, 09:50:12 AM
ou

 :facepalm:

Thank you, sd.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 28, 2011, 09:55:03 AM
We should ask okcat was his super insidery sources have to say about the OU opening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on March 28, 2011, 10:13:25 AM
You left out Wichita State :ck: :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on March 28, 2011, 10:13:25 AM
You left out Wichita State :ck: :lol:

We're only going to discuss BCS openings unless relevant assistants are considered for mid-major jobs.

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2011, 10:16:13 AM
Cuonzo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2011, 10:33:21 AM
is gregory done already?  thought it was still pending.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2011, 10:33:21 AM
is gregory done already?  thought it was still pending.

dayton announced it on twitter
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2011, 10:33:21 AM
is gregory done already?  thought it was still pending.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/03/georgia-tech-hires-dayton-brian-gregory/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/03/georgia-tech-hires-dayton-brian-gregory/1)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 28, 2011, 10:36:10 AM
Ttech and clyde.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Quote
slmandel Stewart Mandel
There's desperate, and then there's this. RT @SI_24Seven: Ga. Tech selects Dayton's Gregory as new coach http://bit.ly/fyYNKb
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Quote
slmandel Stewart Mandel
There's desperate, and then there's this. RT @SI_24Seven: Ga. Tech selects Dayton's Gregory as new coach http://bit.ly/fyYNKb

I know.  It's kind of a weird hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 10:50:58 AM
Tech didn't even let him hit the ground.  They dove to catch him after Dayton dropped him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:56:44 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 10:50:58 AM
Tech didn't even let him hit the ground.  They dove to catch him after Dayton dropped him.

Quote
The empty seats hurt Hewitt's hopes of remaining on the job, even though the school owes him a $7.2 million buyout over the next five years as part of a lucrative contract he signed after the Final Four season.

Could be a 'bargain' coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
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Fred Hoiberg named Basketball Times' Rookie Coach of the Year. http://fb.me/IwAusnin

Hoiberg bringing in hardware.

Should jump to a better gig before crap hits the fan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 28, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
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Fred Hoiberg named Basketball Times' Rookie Coach of the Year. http://fb.me/IwAusnin

Hoiberg bringing in hardware.

Should jump to a better gig before crap hits the fan.

Wow. Nice to see what last place gets you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on March 28, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
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Fred Hoiberg named Basketball Times' Rookie Coach of the Year. http://fb.me/IwAusnin

Hoiberg bringing in hardware.

Should jump to a better gig before crap hits the fan.

Wow. Nice to see what last place gets you.

Yeah, it has to be a gag thing.  Maybe he is getting Punk'ed  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 02:26:51 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Just a thought: Frank Martin? N.C. State fans would love him. RT @ACCSports: @goodmanonfox Your thoughts on whom N.C. State should hire?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 02:26:51 PM
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goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Just a thought: Frank Martin? N.C. State fans would love him. RT @ACCSports: @goodmanonfox Your thoughts on whom N.C. State should hire?

I don't see that being a place where he'd be interested, but who knows?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
Quote
AJSports Courtney Linehan
Hearing rumors Pat Knight's been hired at Lamar, but also hearing that school is not prepared to announce a coach until next weke.

Don't know anything about Lamar other than their doughnuts are OK. 

Good luck Pat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
2 huge negatives to NC State, but a whole bunch of positives.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
2 huge negatives to NC State, but a whole bunch of positives.



What are the negatives?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
2 huge negatives to NC State, but a whole bunch of positives.



What are the negatives?

Duke and UNC?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
2 huge negatives to NC State, but a whole bunch of positives.



What are the negatives?

Duke and UNC?   :dunno:

Yeah.  Why would you go from #2 in your state to #3 in your metro?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 02:36:06 PM
2 huge negatives to NC State, but a whole bunch of positives.



Unrealistic expectations?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
Frank would be stupid not to take that job if offered.  Good luck Frank.  Godspeed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
Frank would be stupid not to take that job if offered.  Good luck Frank.  Godspeed.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2011, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
Frank would be stupid not to take that job if offered.  Good luck Frank.  Godspeed.

 :dubious:

 :cool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
with re: to Painter:

Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Gene Keady also said this: "I think he'll stay."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
with re: to Painter:

Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Gene Keady also said this: "I think he'll stay."

would love the tigerboard meltdown if this happens
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2011, 03:20:13 PM
There's also another big reason that could keep Frank from considering NCSU: Their AD Debbie Yow. She cultivated a reputation of being very difficult to work with in Maryland and nobody in College Park was really sad to see her go. If Frank and Currie are butting heads behind the scenes, then the likelihood of him duking it out with Yow is very high if he went to Raleigh. Plus, we could probably match any offer that NCSU has unless they really open up their wallet for him (which I don't see happening)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 28, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 28, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
with re: to Painter:

Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Gene Keady also said this: "I think he'll stay."


would love the tigerboard meltdown if this happens

Who's the guy that goes on with Soren sometimes from powermizzou.com?  Would be epic to have him report "It's Painter"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 28, 2011, 04:09:03 PM
NCSU & the Pres are total cuntfaces when dealing with athletics.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources told me that a coach in the A-10, Conference-USA and another one in the Big 12 have said "thanks, but no thanks" to NC State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 28, 2011, 05:47:28 PM
:surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2011, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources told me that a coach in the A-10, Conference-USA and another one in the Big 12 have said "thanks, but no thanks" to NC State.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 28, 2011, 06:27:04 PM
I'm I crazy to think the following:

Purdue > Mizzou
K-State > NC State

Seems like these guys would be taking lateral, or more likely demotions, by going to those places.
 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources told me that a coach in the A-10, Conference-USA and another one in the Big 12 have said "thanks, but no thanks" to NC State.

Love you too, Frank.

 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 08:14:02 PM

           Dick Weiss New York Daily News
Quote
matt painter to missouri 7 yrs 14 mill' tigers got a great coach will purdue make a pitch for brad stevens 27 minutes ago via web


:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources told me that a coach in the A-10, Conference-USA and another one in the Big 12 have said "thanks, but no thanks" to NC State.

Chris Mack
Josh Pastner
Frank Martin

Who wants to lay odds?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 08:14:02 PM

           Dick Weiss New York Daily News
Quote
matt painter to missouri 7 yrs 14 mill' tigers got a great coach will purdue make a pitch for brad stevens 27 minutes ago via web


:horrorsurprise:

Quote
Steve_Walentik Steve Walentik
by SSJ_WHB
Source says Painter to #Mizzou not done, but indications are it is going to happen
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on March 28, 2011, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 08:14:02 PM

           Dick Weiss New York Daily News
Quote
matt painter to missouri 7 yrs 14 mill' tigers got a great coach will purdue make a pitch for brad stevens 27 minutes ago via web


:horrorsurprise:

Not saying Painter won't end up at MU, but I know for a fact that he's not even coming in for an interview until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources told me that a coach in the A-10, Conference-USA and another one in the Big 12 have said "thanks, but no thanks" to NC State.

Chris Mack
Josh Pastner
Frank Martin

Who wants to lay odds?

Sounds about right, Gary Williams isn't loved but the Debbie Yow thing along with Duke & UNC makes that the worst job of the current BCS openings.  People keep talking about money like that matters, but Depaul and Oregon threw loads of cash around too and no big fishes bit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 28, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Yeah, I almost forgot what a hard time Oregon had finding a new coach.  DePaul is a nice job but Nike's power and money would seemingly make Oregon a great gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 28, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Yeah, I almost forgot what a hard time Oregon had finding a new coach.  DePaul is a nice job but Nike's power and money would seemingly make Oregon a great gig.

I watched the CBI finals game 1 tonight.  I have no idea who the analyst was but he said that Dana Altman was Oregon's first choice.  LOL  Don't know who the hell he was trying to fool but anyone watching the CBI on television knows better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 28, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Yeah, I almost forgot what a hard time Oregon had finding a new coach.  DePaul is a nice job but Nike's power and money would seemingly make Oregon a great gig.

I watched the CBI finals game 1 tonight.  I have no idea who the analyst was but he said that Dana Altman was Oregon's first choice.  LOL  Don't know who the hell he was trying to fool but anyone watching the CBI on television knows better.

What network carries the CBI?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:25:08 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 28, 2011, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 28, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Yeah, I almost forgot what a hard time Oregon had finding a new coach.  DePaul is a nice job but Nike's power and money would seemingly make Oregon a great gig.

I watched the CBI finals game 1 tonight.  I have no idea who the analyst was but he said that Dana Altman was Oregon's first choice.  LOL  Don't know who the hell he was trying to fool but anyone watching the CBI on television knows better.

What network carries the CBI?

HDNet
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Bob Knight to Purdue grumblings. Sorry if already posted
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Bob Knight to Purdue grumblings. Sorry if already posted

It definitely hasn't been posted, no credible source would put their name to that.  That's a really stupid rumor.  I heard Billy Tubbs is going to Miami with Norm Stewart and Johnny Orr as his assistants.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Bob Knight to Purdue grumblings. Sorry if already posted

It definitely hasn't been posted, no credible source would put their name to that.  That's a really stupid rumor.  I heard Billy Tubbs is going to Miami with Norm Stewart and Johnny Orr as his assistants.

Oh. Fatlock was just retweeting some garbage I thought I'd mention it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 10:43:55 PM
Wasn't JW the one behind it? He's just having fun i guess. Apparently wasn't getting enough attention.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:47:54 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 10:43:55 PM
Wasn't JW the one behind it? He's just having fun i guess. Apparently wasn't getting enough attention.

Don't know. I went to take a shower, got back and I saw all kinds of Painter to Mu and Knight to Purdue. Overwhelming to say the least  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 28, 2011, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Bob Knight to Purdue grumblings. Sorry if already posted

It definitely hasn't been posted, no credible source would put their name to that.  That's a really stupid rumor.  I heard Billy Tubbs is going to Miami with Norm Stewart and Johnny Orr as his assistants.

Johnny Orr does live in Florida...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on March 28, 2011, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 28, 2011, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: pike on March 28, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Bob Knight to Purdue grumblings. Sorry if already posted

It definitely hasn't been posted, no credible source would put their name to that.  That's a really stupid rumor.  I heard Billy Tubbs is going to Miami with Norm Stewart and Johnny Orr as his assistants.

Johnny Orr does live in Florida...
Mike Leach  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2011, 04:57:19 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2011, 08:14:02 PM

           Dick Weiss New York Daily News
Quote
matt painter to missouri 7 yrs 14 mill' tigers got a great coach will purdue make a pitch for brad stevens 27 minutes ago via web


:horrorsurprise:
everyone has that tweet but I don't see it on his twitter feed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2011, 05:39:51 AM
Painter's wiki bio is already getting changed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Painter
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slackcat on March 29, 2011, 07:10:16 AM
Will awaken a sleeping giant......
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 07:22:47 AM
The Knight rumor is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing started by whitlock.  You can tell because he is saying that purdue is going to pay him $10m/yr.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
I know Alden is meeting w/Painter, still think he is playing the game-listen/nod/smile-go back to Purdue and get paid-IMHO
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
Love that Frank got the NC State job offer and didn't use it to get more money/publicity.

We <3 you, Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 29, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 29, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
I know Alden is meeting w/Painter, still think he is playing the game-listen/nod/smile-go back to Purdue and get paid-IMHO
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 29, 2011, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
Love that Frank got the NC State job offer and didn't use it to get more money/publicity.

We <3 you, Frank.

Frank is the greatest!   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
Love that Frank got the NC State job offer and didn't use it to get more money/publicity.

We <3 you, Frank.

May end up getting more money out of it, but at least he's not making it public, which is a very honorable thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Here's a quick news story on Josh Pastner agreeing to an extension with Memphis: http://bit.ly/f7lVpq

Quote
Memphis officials will announce later today that the school has reached a deal on a new and extended contract with Josh Pastner, a source told CBSSports.com on Tuesday.

Pastner had been linked to openings at N.C. State, Missouri and Oklahoma in recent days. He just took Memphis to the NCAA tournament and should return a preseason Top 25 team next season headlined by Will Barton, Joe Jackson, Tarik Black and incoming freshman Adonis Thomas, a McDonald's All-American from Melrose High in Memphis

Pastner is 49-20 in two years with the Tigers.

He replaced John Calipari in April 2009.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 29, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Here's a quick news story on Josh Pastner agreeing to an extension with Memphis: http://bit.ly/f7lVpq

Quote
Memphis officials will announce later today that the school has reached a deal on a new and extended contract with Josh Pastner, a source told CBSSports.com on Tuesday.

Pastner had been linked to openings at N.C. State, Missouri and Oklahoma in recent days. He just took Memphis to the NCAA tournament and should return a preseason Top 25 team next season headlined by Will Barton, Joe Jackson, Tarik Black and incoming freshman Adonis Thomas, a McDonald's All-American from Melrose High in Memphis

Pastner is 49-20 in two years with the Tigers.

He replaced John Calipari in April 2009.

Ha ha!  I was 1/3 right on the NC State tweet!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Katz reporting Pastnew 5 year ext. OU never interested, but openings are nice for HCs to re-up. Congrats to Josh and Memphis

Is OU still working the Buzz angle, or has Buzz decided to say at Marquette?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 29, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Katz reporting Pastnew 5 year ext. OU never interested, but openings are nice for HCs to re-up. Congrats to Josh and Memphis

Is OU still working the Buzz angle, or has Buzz decided to say at Marquette?

This morning, Gottlieb said that Buzz isn't going anywhere.  Has a pretty steep buyout, apparently.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 29, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Katz reporting Pastnew 5 year ext. OU never interested, but openings are nice for HCs to re-up. Congrats to Josh and Memphis

Is OU still working the Buzz angle, or has Buzz decided to say at Marquette?

This morning, Gottlieb said that Buzz isn't going anywhere.  Has a pretty steep buyout, apparently.

Have they even identified any real candidates yet, or are they just going to try to go back to the VCU well?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 29, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Katz reporting Pastnew 5 year ext. OU never interested, but openings are nice for HCs to re-up. Congrats to Josh and Memphis

Is OU still working the Buzz angle, or has Buzz decided to say at Marquette?

This morning, Gottlieb said that Buzz isn't going anywhere.  Has a pretty steep buyout, apparently.

Have they even identified any real candidates yet, or are they just going to try to go back to the VCU well?

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curtiskitchen Curtis Kitchen
#Oklahoma basketball fans, if they exist, should be terrified at the silence surrounding the job opening. Hardly a blip...

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 29, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
OU has been insanely quiet about the coaching search.  Literally not a peep from anybody.  Guarantee that they'll hire some no-name guy that will be a huge bust.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
If Mizzou lands Painter I do think they did very well. Not an upgrade, not a downgrade- Painter likely to be more successful in conference
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 02:03:06 PM
Marshall?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
LOL @ curtis kitchen acting like he has his finger on the pulse of anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on March 29, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 02:03:06 PM
Marshall?

Marshall to K-State when Frank leaves for Miami next year.

/ I literally have no idea what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 02:05:51 PM
reportedly, that's just how castiglione works.  no consultants, no leaks, no media.


kitchen is a dumbass, as usual.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 04:49:52 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/29/2761400/painter-will-wait-a-day-to-make.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/29/2761400/painter-will-wait-a-day-to-make.html)

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“The ball is in his court,” the source told The Star. “Purdue has come up with more money (reports in Indiana say $2.3 million). They don’t want to lose him.”
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: sys on March 29, 2011, 02:05:51 PM
reportedly, that's just how castiglione works.  no consultants, no leaks, no media.

Curious to see where he goes with the search, though.  I thought Buzz would be a big target.  Maybe he was before he got extended, or maybe it's the reason he got the big extension.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
Is this HC salary inflation we're seeing?  How does it affect our short to mid term chances of retaining Frank?  If someone wanted Frank for $2.3M, would we match (assume Frank dealt with it in the utmost respectful manner)?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
ouch...

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Less-than-a-dozen-come-to-Painter-rally
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
ouch...

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Less-than-a-dozen-come-to-Painter-rally

I'd leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
ouch...

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Less-than-a-dozen-come-to-Painter-rally

I'd leave.

Our rally for Huggs would've been fantastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 29, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
ouch...

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Less-than-a-dozen-come-to-Painter-rally

I'd leave.

Our rally for Huggs would've been fantastic.

I remember that day.  When Huggs told Ropinfeet not to have it, I knew he was gone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 29, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 29, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
ouch...

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Less-than-a-dozen-come-to-Painter-rally

I'd leave.

Our rally for Huggs would've been fantastic.

i would have gone.   :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_a136221c-5ae4-11e0-9743-0017a4a78c22.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_a136221c-5ae4-11e0-9743-0017a4a78c22.html

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
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sptwri Mike DeArmond
As of half an hour ago, Painter had not told his staff anything. All along people who know Painter have said he wouldn't pull an anderson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

38mins to decide   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
Things must be really really really shitty at Purdue. I mean, jfc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 11:29:01 AM
don't understand what purdue has over missouri. can someone explain?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 11:29:01 AM
don't understand what purdue has over missouri. can someone explain?

Really only that he's an alumnus. Otherwise it sounds like the leadership is overly into making themselves an "academic school" and Painter might think its possible to win more/bigger at Missouri.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
Things must be really really really shitty at Purdue. I mean, jfc.

Guy on 810 yesterday was saying that Purdue admin sucks.   Said that their current arena doesn't even have AC.  Granted they are building a new practice facility, but how do you let something go that long?

Also, another guy said that the booster involvement is close to zero up there.  sounds like no one cares that much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 11:37:32 AM
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espn4d Pat Forde
Some folks close to the situation are counseling to apply the brakes to the Post-Dispatch's Painter-Mizzou story. Nothing official right now
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 30, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
Too much smoke here.  He's going to Mizzou. 

"It's Painter!"

Our conference just got tougher.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 11:54:26 AM
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But do remember, this guy lost to VCU by 18,  Good coach and a step up on MU's last 2 coaches for sure but probably not perfect.

lol, 3 days after being down to VCU by 18 and losing by double digits as well.

:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

I actually think he'd be an idiot not to go to MU.  Much better situation at MU than Purdue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 30, 2011, 12:06:50 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
Things must be really really really shitty at Purdue. I mean, jfc.

Guy on 810 yesterday was saying that Purdue admin sucks.   Said that their current arena doesn't even have AC.  Granted they are building a new practice facility, but how do you let something go that long?

Also, another guy said that the booster involvement is close to zero up there.  sounds like no one cares that much.

Their president resigned last year, who was president at Iowa State before his time at Purdue. He basically ran our school into the ground on multiple fronts as well. Purdue is fuccccccccked.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
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TheHoopsReport Ryan Feldman
Myself, Seth Davis, Dan Wetzel, and multiple Indianapolis newspapers are reporting that Painter accepted the Mizzou job. It's a done deal.
2 minutes ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
purdue fanbase has to feel like dogshit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
purdue fanbase has to feel like dogshit

Yep.  Officially a worse school that MU. 

'grats, Purdue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
purdue fanbase has to feel like dogcac

yeah.  the guy freaking left his HC position at SIU to be an assistant for a year before taking over......and you can't keep him?  jfc. 

on the flip side...first time MU hasn't fitz'd something up, which is weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
purdue fanbase has to feel like dogcac

yeah.  the guy freaking left his HC position at SIU to be an assistant for a year before taking over......and you can't keep him?  jfc. 

on the flip side...first time MU hasn't fitz'd something up, which is weird.

Wait for the details.  They may be paying him like he is Bill Self.

What I am saying is that they may have Fitz'ed themselves rather than the deal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:21:29 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
purdue fanbase has to feel like dogcac

yeah.  the guy freaking left his HC position at SIU to be an assistant for a year before taking over......and you can't keep him?  jfc. 

on the flip side...first time MU hasn't fitz'd something up, which is weird.

Wait for the details.  They may be paying him like he is Bill Self.

What I am saying is that they may have Fitz'ed themselves rather than the deal.

It was either Painter or........? prolly some rummy.  unless they went above 2.8 it was a no brainer.  hell, even then who cares if you're MU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
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GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
How awesome would it be if Matt Painter just said F it and took the N.C. State job?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2011, 12:26:36 PM
Has anyone attempted to break contract numbers for the deal?  Might be a new BITB in town if he got them for like 2.5 a year with a low buyout.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 12:31:18 PM
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sptwri Mike DeArmond
An MU official just told me - on the record - that a report that Matt Painter has told Missouri he has accepted is "premature"

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sptwri Mike DeArmond
MU statement confirms what one of my sources told me earlier. Acceptance report is jumping the gun
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 30, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 12:31:18 PM
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sptwri Mike DeArmond
An MU official just told me - on the record - that a report that Matt Painter has told Missouri he has accepted is "premature"

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sptwri Mike DeArmond
MU statement confirms what one of my sources told me earlier. Acceptance report is jumping the gun

I call b.s.  Mostly on that dearmond has sources. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
If he goes to MU, at least it's like a FU to the BigTen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:46:34 PM
i'm assuming he verballed, but like most things you wait until it's signed to leak anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

no idea.  just don't understand the attitude that mu is an inferior job.  at worst equal, and i personally agree with the idea that it's better (but with a nod to micat's chicago argument).

also don't understand the notion that everyone is dying to live/work in the town where they went to college.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2011, 12:57:46 PM
MU being wiling to put the money behind basketball is all the difference.  Purdue seems stingy over this whole ordeal.  Too little too late.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 01:00:07 PM
It's like Purdue looked at Northwestern and was like "yeah, that seems pretty cool.  let's go the academics route." 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

I actually think he'd be an idiot not to go to MU.  Much better situation at MU than Purdue.

I totally disagree. The population in a 2 hour, 3 hour, and 6 hour radius of W. Laffayette is so much bigger than Columbia that it makes any bullshit "only game in town" argument for MU....well, bullshit.

Also, Purdue has more Big 10 titles than....anyone.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference_men%27s_basketball_regular_season_champions  :surprised:

I know MU doesn't come close to sniffing the most Big 12/Big 8 titles, so I don't see how they have ever leveraged their "elite status" in missouri into anything other than bragging rights over CMSU and Truman State. Sleeping giant my ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2011, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

I actually think he'd be an idiot not to go to MU.  Much better situation at MU than Purdue.

I totally disagree. The population in a 2 hour, 3 hour, and 6 hour radius of W. Laffayette is so much bigger than Columbia that it makes any bullcac "only game in town" argument for MU....well, bullcac.

Also, Purdue has more Big 10 titles than....anyone.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference_men%27s_basketball_regular_season_champions  :surprised:

I know MU doesn't come close to sniffing the most Big 12/Big 8 titles, so I don't see how they have ever leveraged their "elite status" in missouri into anything other than bragging rights over CMSU and Truman State. Sleeping giant my ass.

Those things are all true, but it seems like this is all about commitment to a program and winning than any of those things. Those things definitely make Purdue the better job on paper.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2011, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

I actually think he'd be an idiot not to go to MU.  Much better situation at MU than Purdue.

I totally disagree. The population in a 2 hour, 3 hour, and 6 hour radius of W. Laffayette is so much bigger than Columbia that it makes any bullcac "only game in town" argument for MU....well, bullcac.

Also, Purdue has more Big 10 titles than....anyone.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference_men%27s_basketball_regular_season_champions  :surprised:

I know MU doesn't come close to sniffing the most Big 12/Big 8 titles, so I don't see how they have ever leveraged their "elite status" in missouri into anything other than bragging rights over CMSU and Truman State. Sleeping giant my ass.

Those things are all true, but it seems like this is all about commitment to a program and winning than any of those things. Those things definitely make Purdue the better job on paper.

I said in the other thread that even with more money (i.e. commitment) it is close. With equal money/budget it is not close IMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I still don't see any way he goes to MU. 

don't understand this attitude.

you think he's going?  a lot of people do.

I actually think he'd be an idiot not to go to MU.  Much better situation at MU than Purdue.

I totally disagree. The population in a 2 hour, 3 hour, and 6 hour radius of W. Laffayette is so much bigger than Columbia that it makes any bullcac "only game in town" argument for MU....well, bullcac.

Also, Purdue has more Big 10 titles than....anyone.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference_men%27s_basketball_regular_season_champions  :surprised:

I know MU doesn't come close to sniffing the most Big 12/Big 8 titles, so I don't see how they have ever leveraged their "elite status" in missouri into anything other than bragging rights over CMSU and Truman State. Sleeping giant my ass.

i dunno.  looks like purdue had a hell of a run b/t 1920-1930 (half of their 22 titles came then).  Since 1989, Purdue's won it 4 times,  Mu's won 2 titles, though none as recently as last year as Purdue has.  West lafayette is only 6hours away from columbia.  i dunno.  seems like MU will provide resources, and Purdue won't give Painter another GA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
With equal money/budget it is not close IMO.

 :dubious:

rank purdue job among big 10 jobs.  assume a decent admin, not a shitty one as is rumored.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
With equal money/budget it is not close IMO.

 :dubious:

rank purdue job among big 10 jobs.  assume a decent admin, not a shitty one as is rumored.

Assuming equal coaches, also:

Indiana
Michigan
Ohio State
Purdue/Illinois (tie)
Michigan St. (they are all izzo)
who cares
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
wow, you have michigan way up there.  hard to fathom their sustained recent mediocrity, if they're truly the 2nd best job in the big 10.

my own ranking would be:

ohio state
indiana
illinois

michigan/msu (don't feel like i know how to evaluate these jobs)
wisconsin
purdue
minnesota/iowa

northwestern (i've said before, i don't understand why this isn't a great job.  but i'm accepting empirical evidence to place here)

nebrasksa
penn st
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
I am generous w/ Michigan because of the insane amounts of money that flows through that place. Probation/Amaker set them back. I would have no problem moving them down.

Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
Indy TV stations saying that Painter is staying.

Christ, this is going to be great if true.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:30:46 PM
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-20110328-matt-painter-coaching-future,0,5977959.story
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
1070 Radio Station in Indy also says he's staying.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:30:46 PM
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-20110328-matt-painter-coaching-future,0,5977959.story

they changed the wording in that article...just a few min ago it was...

Quote
WEST LAFAYETTE—

The St. Louis Post Dispatch is reporting Purdue head coach Matt Painter has accepted the men’s basketball coaching position at Missouri. But, not so fast, a source close to Fox 59 says no official decision has been made.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2011, 02:38:21 PM
Poor mizzou. Spurned by Big-10 then Painter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
OT: Twitter is down for me. fml
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.

That's fair. But it isn't like you see kids in chicago growing up dreaming of playing for Illinois - this isn't unc we're talking about here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
Andy Katz reporting Painter turned down MU.

lol.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
Andy Katz reporting Painter turned down MU.

lol.

Poor Methers are gonna have more heart issues after this month is over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:47:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6274057

Quote
Matt Painter has turned down Missouri and will remain coach of the Purdue men's basketball team, a source with knowledge of the situation tells ESPN.com's Andy Katz.

Painter and Missouri athletic director Mike Alden met Tuesday morning in Orlando, Fla., to discuss the Tigers' opening. Painter was offered the job but did not say either way at that time whether he'd take it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on March 30, 2011, 02:47:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6274057

Quote
Matt Painter has turned down Missouri and will remain coach of the Purdue men's basketball team, a source with knowledge of the situation tells ESPN.com's Andy Katz.

Painter and Missouri athletic director Mike Alden met Tuesday morning in Orlando, Fla., to discuss the Tigers' opening. Painter was offered the job but did not say either way at that time whether he'd take it.

I am enjoying the crap out of today.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on March 30, 2011, 02:55:31 PM
Wow, now where do they turn  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
I don't get why everyone thinks this is so funny/depressing. They took a chance at a great hire that turned them down. I'd personally like KSU to try to make a similar hire next time (although maybe not so publicly). I mean, it isn't like Greg McDermott turned them down or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 30, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
goodmanfox:  Matt Painter decided to stay at Purdue-multiple sources told FOXSports.com


 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 03:00:33 PM
lol @ the tards who were 100% sure. jfc, people are idiots.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
I don't get why everyone thinks this is so funny/depressing. They took a chance at a great hire that turned them down. I'd personally like KSU to try to make a similar hire next time (although maybe not so publicly). I mean, it isn't like Greg McDermott turned them down or something.

Schadenfreude at Missouri's expense and the meltdown that their fanbase will have/are having. That's why I'm enjoying this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
more importantly, sd's humiliation from two pages ago now NOT LOOKING SO HUMILIATING!   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
What I don't get:  Why does a guy cut his vacation short to fly home to tell his boss, coaches, and players that he is staying?  Sure, I get doing that to say you are leaving, but seem silly to say you are staying, unless it is a last ditch effort to get your AD to get off his ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 30, 2011, 03:06:56 PM
To Tigerboard!!!  :bracketmouse: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
What I don't get:  Why does a guy cut his vacation short to fly home to tell his boss, coaches, and players that he is staying?  Sure, I get doing that to say you are leaving, but seem silly to say you are staying, unless it is a last ditch effort to get your AD to get off his ass.

to squeeze every ounce of money out of Purdue in this ordeal. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
I'm shocked Frank hasn't done this with the Depaul or other mys offers.  Katz is a classy SOB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 03:15:19 PM
Nick Wright mocking pretty heavily. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
I'm shocked Frank hasn't done this with the Depaul or other mys offers.  Katz is a classy SOB.

this is the only reason to lol @ mu (or purdue).  the whole thing was so media leaky.  makes you appreciate an agent-lawyer and an a.d. that know how to control rumors.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
why hasn't Purdue come out and said something yet?  waiting to announce the new contract or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 30, 2011, 03:17:02 PM
Oh, wow, this is fun!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
What I don't get:  Why does a guy cut his vacation short to fly home to tell his boss, coaches, and players that he is staying?  Sure, I get doing that to say you are leaving, but seem silly to say you are staying, unless it is a last ditch effort to get your AD to get off his ass.

he probably flew home to tell the AD he is leaving...............................

(as he's walking out the AD's door) "What if we quit being tight wads and paid you more"
(Painter pauses, grins, turns back around and sits down)  "Open up the check book son"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/033011aab.html (http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/033011aab.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on March 30, 2011, 03:20:16 PM
 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/033011aab.html (http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/033011aab.html)

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
Quote
BlumbergOTB Eric Blumberg
Am now told Painter was going to tell his players he was leaving and had a change of heart.

what a dipshit(Blumberg,not Painter)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 30, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
Moderators, I apologize, please move to basketball board.

Thanks!

:-)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 30, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
i think swings and misses are funny.  especially when there are lots of them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

DON'T TAKE THIS MOMENT FROM ME, SYS

rational analysis can always come later
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 30, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

I agree, thinking specifically of Smart, who did you have in mind?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2011, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: doom on March 30, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

I agree, thinking specifically of Smart, who did you have in mind?

Painter had basically 0 bust potential.  They get Painter, they are in good shape.  It was safe.  Whoever they get now has high bust potential.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on March 30, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
I like the Eustachy idea. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

Yeah IMO people have been overselling the crap out of Painter.  BITB guaranteed a final four for Mizzou if he had stayed there at least seven years.  Klinksdale calling him a top 5 coach.  He's a very good coach, there are many very good coaches that don't regularly make final fours, Self has one.  FYI Painter at Purdue has the exact same win percentage as Frank does at KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2011, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 30, 2011, 03:15:19 PM
Nick Wright mocking pretty heavily. 

predictable
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 30, 2011, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: theKSU on March 30, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
I like the Eustachy idea. 

Last time Larry was in Columbia...

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 :drink:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

Yeah IMO people have been overselling the cac out of Painter.  BITB guaranteed a final four for Mizzou if he had stayed there at least seven years.  Klinksdale calling him a top 5 coach.  He's a very good coach, there are many very good coaches that don't regularly make final fours, Self has one.  FYI Painter at Purdue has the exact same win percentage as Frank does at KSU.

Douggie G.  thinks the world of Painter.  YOU SAYING YOU KNOW MORE THAN DOUG GOTTLEIB?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

Yeah IMO people have been overselling the cac out of Painter.  BITB guaranteed a final four for Mizzou if he had stayed there at least seven years.  Klinksdale calling him a top 5 coach.  He's a very good coach, there are many very good coaches that don't regularly make final fours, Self has one.  FYI Painter at Purdue has the exact same win percentage as Frank does at KSU.

Douggie G.  thinks the world of Painter.  YOU SAYING YOU KNOW MORE THAN DOUG GOTTLEIB?

molinari for ksu coach! - gott, march 2006
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: doom on March 30, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
I agree, thinking specifically of Smart, who did you have in mind?

i don't have anyone specifically in mind.  just liked that painter hadn't historically recruited either dfw or kc.  also that he had something of a recruiting base in st louis/indiana that could translate to missouri.  i wouldn't like someone that would be the opposite of either of those two factors.


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Yeah IMO people have been overselling the crap out of Painter.

yeah, i agree with this too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on March 30, 2011, 03:54:15 PM
Hilarious Mizzou gets left at the altar by the Big 10 and 2 coaches in the span of a year.  NOBODY LIKES YOU MISERY!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
so MU goes after Dave Rose (BYU's coach)?  He has JUCO and TX connection (I think).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
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meh.  didn't think painter was bad for kstate.  they could easily hire someone who hurts us more.

Yeah IMO people have been overselling the cac out of Painter.  BITB guaranteed a final four for Mizzou if he had stayed there at least seven years.  Klinksdale calling him a top 5 coach.  He's a very good coach, there are many very good coaches that don't regularly make final fours, Self has one.  FYI Painter at Purdue has the exact same win percentage as Frank does at KSU.

Douggie G.  thinks the world of Painter.  YOU SAYING YOU KNOW MORE THAN DOUG GOTTLEIB?

He's been very good at Purdue, changing schools doesn't guarantee that success would continue, even if he would have possibly had more resources at Mizzou.  see Crean, Tom
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
so MU goes after Dave Rose (BYU's coach)?  He has JUCO and TX connection (I think).

Too old and the cancer thing is also an issue.

As much as I can't stand him Marshall looks like he's going to get one of these jobs.  Again I can't stand him but I'd hire him before Smart.  That isn't going to work, it hasn't worked in the past.  These dumb ADs keep getting hoodwinked by these flash-in-the-pan tournament runs by unproven mid-major coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 04:07:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
so MU goes after Dave Rose (BYU's coach)?  He has JUCO and TX connection (I think).

I heard that about OU too.  But the guy is LDS.  Don't most LDS guys consider that the dream job?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
He's been very good at Purdue, changing schools doesn't guarantee that success would continue, even if he would have possibly had more resources at Mizzou.  see Crean, Tom

I think this is a valid point, but Crean is a pretty extreme example. I agree he's been much worse than I anticipated at Indiana, but Sampson pretty much destroyed that place on the way out.  A guy who has won decently and recruited well at another high major program to me is the biggest threat at an opposing school, and Painter definitely fit that bill. He's about as low risk as you get and odds are he would've likely had Missouri competitive and an NCAA program if he had come.

IMO a guy like Smart is not scary at all. He's on a magical run with mostly a bunch of guys he didn't even really recruit. Plus his style is a lot like Anderson's and I'm on not sold on it being a a great style at the high major level unless you are a ridiculous recruiter. I'd be much more worried about Stevens going to Missouri, but I don't think that's likely at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2011, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
He's been very good at Purdue, changing schools doesn't guarantee that success would continue, even if he would have possibly had more resources at Mizzou.  see Crean, Tom

I think this is a valid point, but Crean is a pretty extreme example. I agree he's been much worse than I anticipated at Indiana, but Sampson pretty much destroyed that place on the way out.  A guy who has won decently and recruited well at another high major program to me is the biggest threat at an opposing school, and Painter definitely fit that bill. He's about as low risk as you get and odds are he would've likely had Missouri competitive and an NCAA program if he had come.

IMO a guy like Smart is not scary at all. He's on a magical run with mostly a bunch of guys he didn't even really recruit. Plus his style is a lot like Anderson's and I'm on not sold on it being a a great style at the high major level unless you are a ridiculous recruiter. I'd be much more worried about Stevens going to Missouri, but I don't think that's likely at all.

JFC, a _FAN validation :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
so MU goes after Dave Rose (BYU's coach)?  He has JUCO and TX connection (I think).

Too old and the cancer thing is also an issue.

As much as I can't stand him Marshall looks like he's going to get one of these jobs.  Again I can't stand him but I'd hire him before Smart.  That isn't going to work, it hasn't worked in the past.  These dumb ADs keep getting hoodwinked by these flash-in-the-pan tournament runs by unproven mid-major coaches.

would love if they hired marshall.  was scared with painter that I would run out of reasons to dislike MU.  with marshall, i'd probably hate mu even more than I hated MU under Anderson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
was scared with painter that I would run out of reasons to dislike MU.  with marshall, i'd probably hate mu even more than I hated MU under Anderson.

dumbstick.   :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 04:25:38 PM
goodman fellates painter, calls micat a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/in_end_painter_shows_loyalty/4474350
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
was scared with painter that I would run out of reasons to dislike MU.  with marshall, i'd probably hate mu even more than I hated MU under Anderson.

dumbstick.   :pray:

sweet baby jesus.  would be incredible.  we're not that lucky.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
was scared with painter that I would run out of reasons to dislike MU.  with marshall, i'd probably hate mu even more than I hated MU under Anderson.

dumbstick.   :pray:

sweet baby jesus.  would be incredible.  we're not that lucky.

would Matt Scott be forced to call it a fantastic hire?  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 30, 2011, 05:52:51 PM
Painter played MU hard and balls deep.

I will give you reasons why Mike Alden was dumb for going all in on Painter:

1.  He's a Purdue Alum.
2.  Purdue was following through on everything they promised in terms of facilities:  A complete renovation of Mackey Arena, replete with new basketball operations facilities (offices, practice courts, dressing rooms, weight room).   Next to contract/money/emotional support that is almost always next on the list. 

That only left one thing . . . money. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 05:56:22 PM
did not realize this.

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See, Purdue is a unique school in that it uses no state funds to support its athletic department. It uses no university funding, either....Purdue pays for every scholarship, every coaching salary -- every stamp on every letter to every high school recruit -- with privately raised funds. That's impressive. That's a school that isn't bleeding an already bled-out state to pay its millionaires even more millions. Well done to Purdue. Wish more schools were like you.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14879285/want-your-school-to-keep-coaches-like-painter-prepare-to-ante-up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2011, 06:04:35 PM
BITB (Radio) defended MU pretty hard about going after Painter. Although he brought up a pretty solid point that perception of the next hire will be unfair from the fans standpoint if they end up paying the next guy 1.3 Million.  If you were about to unload 2.3 or higher on the previous candidate it would seem underwhelming.  The publicity of the painter deal probably gives future candidates much more leverage to become overpaid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
He's been very good at Purdue, changing schools doesn't guarantee that success would continue, even if he would have possibly had more resources at Mizzou.  see Crean, Tom

I think this is a valid point, but Crean is a pretty extreme example. I agree he's been much worse than I anticipated at Indiana, but Sampson pretty much destroyed that place on the way out.

Crean's supposed to have an awesome class coming in.  I think his first year there he had like 6 scholarship players and onlye two returning players.  He knew he had an opportunity with that shell of a program to build for 3/4 years and is taking advantage and building it his way.  I would be surprised if he doesn't build a consistent tournament team
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
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pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
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pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 30, 2011, 08:29:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Quote
pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.

For us or them?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
so MU goes after Dave Rose (BYU's coach)?  He has JUCO and TX connection (I think).

Too old and the cancer thing is also an issue.

As much as I can't stand him Marshall looks like he's going to get one of these jobs.  Again I can't stand him but I'd hire him before Smart.  That isn't going to work, it hasn't worked in the past.  These dumb ADs keep getting hoodwinked by these flash-in-the-pan tournament runs by unproven mid-major coaches.

Smart is a recruiter. All things equal, I'd take Smart over Marshall. (but i would have taken smart before their run).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on March 30, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
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pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.

 :crossfingers:


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
OU tried to get Lon Kruger and he said no

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2011, 09:07:26 PM
for those keeping track, that's now 3 coaches who have turned OU down (reportedly, of course)

Pastner, Buzz, and Kruger 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 30, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
He's been very good at Purdue, changing schools doesn't guarantee that success would continue, even if he would have possibly had more resources at Mizzou.  see Crean, Tom

I think this is a valid point, but Crean is a pretty extreme example. I agree he's been much worse than I anticipated at Indiana, but Sampson pretty much destroyed that place on the way out.

Crean's supposed to have an awesome class coming in.  I think his first year there he had like 6 scholarship players and onlye two returning players.  He knew he had an opportunity with that shell of a program to build for 3/4 years and is taking advantage and building it his way.  I would be surprised if he doesn't build a consistent tournament team

Yeah Crean has the #2 pg, #4 PF, #9 SF, and #16 SG coming in 2012 and they're all home state Indiana guys.  Add in a top 150 7 footer from North Carolina and that is a hell of a coup.  Cody Zeller will com in next year and help hold IU over until the crew gets there.  Obviously there isn't a lot of talent on the current roster but Crean won't be judged until that 2012 class is two years in.  Luckily for him IU fans aren't like Kentucky fans and will actually be patient enough for these guys to come in.  Crean will need to have the Hoosiers dancing in 2012-13 and in the top 10 in 2013-14 or we will probably see Brad Stephens pacing the sidelines in Bloomington the following year (either 13-14 or 15-16)  

I think Stephens is perfectly content at Butler and the one job that would quickly lure him away would be IU.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.

That's fair. But it isn't like you see kids in chicago growing up dreaming of playing for Illinois - this isn't unc we're talking about here.

this is just a falsehood.  granted, chicago alone produces enough talent to fill up 2 or 3 whole D1 squads each year, but Illinois generally has their pick of the litter.  and it's not just for basketball either, practically all the high school kids in CHI want to go to U of I for school as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 30, 2011, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on March 30, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Quote
pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.

 :crossfingers:


What's the deal with all these meetings taking place in Tulsa??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.



That's fair. But it isn't like you see kids in chicago growing up dreaming of playing for Illinois - this isn't unc we're talking about here.

this is just a falsehood.  granted, chicago alone produces enough talent to fill up 2 or 3 whole D1 squads each year, but Illinois generally has their pick of the litter.  and it's not just for basketball either, practically all the high school kids in CHI want to go to U of I for school as well.

Meh, The enrollments are similar, Purdue has no need to recruit Chicago as Indiana talent is as good or better as any in Illinois.  Purdue actually has a bigger endowment.  They also have more continuity than IU and are a more successful program.  Self proved that Illinois is not a destination Job and while Purdue isn't either I don't think Painter will be leaving for another 15-20 years.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:47:46 PM
Actually outside of Self Illinois really hasn't done much in the last 20 years.  Hell even Lou Henson only managed 1 B10 title in his time there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.



That's fair. But it isn't like you see kids in chicago growing up dreaming of playing for Illinois - this isn't unc we're talking about here.

this is just a falsehood.  granted, chicago alone produces enough talent to fill up 2 or 3 whole D1 squads each year, but Illinois generally has their pick of the litter.  and it's not just for basketball either, practically all the high school kids in CHI want to go to U of I for school as well.

Meh, The enrollments are similar, Purdue has no need to recruit Chicago as Indiana talent is as good or better as any in Illinois.  Purdue actually has a bigger endowment.  They also have more continuity than IU and are a more successful program.  Self proved that Illinois is not a destination Job and while Purdue isn't either I don't think Painter will be leaving for another 15-20 years.  

I don't see what any of that has to do with the perception of the U of I to chicago kids.    :dunno:  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:47:46 PM
Actually outside of Self Illinois really hasn't done much in the last 20 years.  Hell even Lou Henson only managed 1 B10 title in his time there.

Still don't see what this has to do with the perception of U of I to chicago kids.  You really have to be from IL to appreciate how ridiculous the draw is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:54:39 PM
Your statement read clearly like ILL is a better job/ program than PU, when in fact any advantage that might possibly exist is minute and in fact PU is a better basketball program than ILL is.  I never claimed that PU had any advantage with Chicago kids. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:55:56 PM
so you are changing your argument from Ill is a better job to Ill is a big draw for Chicago kids?  I'll concede the latter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: doom on March 30, 2011, 08:29:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Quote
pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.

For us or them?

Them, obviously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2011, 09:54:39 PM
Your statement read clearly like ILL is a better job/ program than PU, when in fact any advantage that might possibly exist is minute and in fact PU is a better basketball program than ILL is.  I never claimed that PU had any advantage with Chicago kids.  

never once in my original post did i compare the two jobs.  MIcat said that "it's not like chicago kids dream of playing for UI", which is completely false.  I can't compare the two jobs because I don't know as much about PU as UI, but the right coach could be very dangerous at UI.  I don't think Weber is that coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2011, 10:09:31 PM
My bad man, that was SYS.  sorry bro.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Where did Weber come from?  I just remember him being on the ass end of that year's coaching carousel.  He did get to the finals that first year (I think it was the first), though it was with Self's kids.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 30, 2011, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 30, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Where did Weber come from?  I just remember him being on the ass end of that year's coaching carousel.  He did get to the finals that first year (I think it was the first), though it was with Self's kids.

Southern Illinois
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 30, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Where did Weber come from?  I just remember him being on the ass end of that year's coaching carousel.  He did get to the finals that first year (I think it was the first), though it was with Self's kids.

Southern Illinois, I believe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on March 30, 2011, 10:58:00 PM
DOC 2 MU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on March 30, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: doom on March 30, 2011, 08:29:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Quote
pfac51 pfac51
Reports out of Denver place New Mexico head coach Steve Alford meeting with Mike Alden in Tulsa early this evening
8 minutes ago

Well, that would be a disaster.

For us or them?

Them, obviously.

WTF is the deal with Tulsa? Isn't that where Mike Anderson signed his deal with Arkansas after a funeral?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 30, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Yea, Weber was at SIU. Basically got the UI job off of their S16 run in '02? Painter took over after he left but only stayed 1 year
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 11:16:57 PM
Quote from: treysolid on March 30, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 30, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Not sure how Illinois is better than Purdue. Very, very similar jobs.

chicago is illinois.  purdue's geographic distance to chicago has never translated into competing with illinois for chicago recruits.


also, illinois is a media draw, purdue isn't.  i'd bet the illinois alumni base dwarfs purdues.  similarly, ui is richer, more prestigious.

That's fair. But it isn't like you see kids in chicago growing up dreaming of playing for Illinois - this isn't unc we're talking about here.

this is just a falsehood.  granted, chicago alone produces enough talent to fill up 2 or 3 whole D1 squads each year, but Illinois generally has their pick of the litter.  and it's not just for basketball either, practically all the high school kids in CHI want to go to U of I for school as well.

They've really done a great job the last two classes, but look at the recruits ranked higher than any Illinois recruit that came out of Chicago before that:

2008:

DeAndre Liggins: UK
Inman Shumpert: GT
Michael Dunigan: Oregon

2007:

Derrick Rose: Memphis
Nayal Koshwal: Depaul
Evan Turner: Ohio State

2006:

Sherron Collins: KU
John Scheyer: Duke



You could keep going back, and find a similar pattern. Illinois hardly gets "the pick of the litter" from Chicago, over the long term.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to just list a bunch of players and then say "well, Illinois didn't get them so the draw isn't that great".  You've got to take things into account like, how many schollys did UI have that year? When did they offer kids? Who is their AAU coach tied in with? How much money did some of these other kids get to go other places (Davis, Rose, Collins, etc... let's be realistic here)?  The fact of the matter is that UI (especially under Weber) has a really high success rate pulling in the IL kids that they offer early.  Illinois seems to offer a select group of Chicago kids scholarships while they are still sophomores and they typically have them wrapped up before their senior year starts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to just list a bunch of players and then say "well, Illinois didn't get them so the draw isn't that great".  You've got to take things into account like, how many schollys did UI have that year? When did they offer kids? Who is their AAU coach tied in with? How much money did some of these other kids get to go other places (Davis, Rose, Collins, etc... let's be realistic here)?  The fact of the matter is that UI (especially under Weber) has a really high success rate pulling in the IL kids that they offer early.  Illinois seems to offer a select group of Chicago kids scholarships while they are still sophomores and they typically have them wrapped up before their senior year starts.

You're right, Weber either didn't want the kids I listed or they got paid. Seems much more fair.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 08:03:54 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to just list a bunch of players and then say "well, Illinois didn't get them so the draw isn't that great".  You've got to take things into account like, how many schollys did UI have that year? When did they offer kids? Who is their AAU coach tied in with? How much money did some of these other kids get to go other places (Davis, Rose, Collins, etc... let's be realistic here)?  The fact of the matter is that UI (especially under Weber) has a really high success rate pulling in the IL kids that they offer early.  Illinois seems to offer a select group of Chicago kids scholarships while they are still sophomores and they typically have them wrapped up before their senior year starts.

You're right, Weber either didn't want the kids I listed or they got paid. Seems much more fair.

Never said he didn't want them.  And as an aside, I think about 50% of the Top 150 kids every year get some sort of "incentive" from schools.  But there's only 13 spots on a team and there are other relationships to consider.  The fact of the matter is that UI culture in CHI is much bigger than you think it is, but i suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in Mich to understand that. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 08:03:54 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to just list a bunch of players and then say "well, Illinois didn't get them so the draw isn't that great".  You've got to take things into account like, how many schollys did UI have that year? When did they offer kids? Who is their AAU coach tied in with? How much money did some of these other kids get to go other places (Davis, Rose, Collins, etc... let's be realistic here)?  The fact of the matter is that UI (especially under Weber) has a really high success rate pulling in the IL kids that they offer early.  Illinois seems to offer a select group of Chicago kids scholarships while they are still sophomores and they typically have them wrapped up before their senior year starts.

You're right, Weber either didn't want the kids I listed or they got paid. Seems much more fair.

Never said he didn't want them.  And as an aside, I think about 50% of the Top 150 kids every year get some sort of "incentive" from schools.  But there's only 13 spots on a team and there are other relationships to consider.  The fact of the matter is that UI culture in CHI is much bigger than you think it is, but i suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in Mich to understand that. 

How big do I think UI culture in Chicago is? :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 08:07:45 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 08:03:54 AM
but i suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in Mich to understand that. 

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 31, 2011, 08:10:37 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 08:07:45 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 08:03:54 AM
but i suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in Mich to understand that. 

 :horrorsurprise:

I suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in nebraska to understand anything about Mack Brown
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 31, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 08:03:54 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: treysolid on March 31, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to just list a bunch of players and then say "well, Illinois didn't get them so the draw isn't that great".  You've got to take things into account like, how many schollys did UI have that year? When did they offer kids? Who is their AAU coach tied in with? How much money did some of these other kids get to go other places (Davis, Rose, Collins, etc... let's be realistic here)?  The fact of the matter is that UI (especially under Weber) has a really high success rate pulling in the IL kids that they offer early.  Illinois seems to offer a select group of Chicago kids scholarships while they are still sophomores and they typically have them wrapped up before their senior year starts.

You're right, Weber either didn't want the kids I listed or they got paid. Seems much more fair.

Never said he didn't want them.  And as an aside, I think about 50% of the Top 150 kids every year get some sort of "incentive" from schools.  But there's only 13 spots on a team and there are other relationships to consider.  The fact of the matter is that UI culture in CHI is much bigger than you think it is, but i suppose I shouldn't expect a KS kid who lives in Mich to understand that.  

How big do I think UI culture in Chicago is? :ck:
It's kinda like UMKC culture in Kansas City.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
Salaries of NCAA tourney coaches.

Anyone know what Frank's 500,000 bonus was?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 31, 2011, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
Salaries of NCAA tourney coaches.

Anyone know what Frank's 500,000 bonus was?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm




Surprised Roy is that low.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2011, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
Salaries of NCAA tourney coaches.

Anyone know what Frank's 500,000 bonus was?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-coaches-salary-database.htm




Quote
North Carolina   Roy Williams   $1,655,000   NA   $1,655,000   $108,332

 :ck:

How do you win two NC's in the last 6 years and still get paid less than 15 coaches?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 31, 2011, 10:36:32 AM
Brooks: http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/mizzou-targeting-3-candidates-including-shaka-29596

Doyel: http://gregg-doyel.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/5881996/28162513
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
doyel's a dumbass.  ou is the best job of the three.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2011, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
doyel's a dumbass.  ou is the best job of the three.

Then why are the likes of Lon Kruger turning them down?  :dunno: 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
doyel's a dumbass.  ou is the best job of the three.

15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 31, 2011, 11:13:31 AM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
doyel's a dumbass.  ou is the best job of the three.

ouhoops.com has gotten to you, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 31, 2011, 11:11:05 AM
Then why are the likes of Lon Kruger turning them down?  :dunno: 

kruger turns down 4-5 schools every year.  he's not moving, people keep asking.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  kstate isn't a better job than it was five years ago, ou isn't a worse job.  recent successes/failures are meaningless.


unless they move okc, move dallas and ou fball stops raking in money, clothing the entire state in crimson and getting on tv every week, ou will stay the 3rd best job in the big 12.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 31, 2011, 12:03:24 PM
You really think the last 5 yrs have had no impact on the KSU job?  I gotta disagree with you on this one.  Seems like we have nunerous things going for us now that HCs would want, that we didn't have 5 yrs ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 31, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  kstate isn't a better job than it was five years ago, ou isn't a worse job.  recent successes/failures are meaningless.


unless they move okc, move dallas and ou fball stops raking in money, clothing the entire state in crimson and getting on tv every week, ou will stay the 3rd best job in the big 12.

the dumbest part of doyel's piece was saying that mu isn't as good of a job because of no final fours compared to two. is george mason a better job than mu as well? what a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fact to try and support an opinion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on March 31, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  kstate isn't a better job than it was five years ago, ou isn't a worse job.  recent successes/failures are meaningless.


unless they move okc, move dallas and ou fball stops raking in money, clothing the entire state in crimson and getting on tv every week, ou will stay the 3rd best job in the big 12.
We are if you count the shiznizzle practice facility on the way.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
Didn't see this anywhere

Quote
Sports by Brooks
Towson: Offering $400K. AD Mike Waddell doing search himself. Dalonte Hill prob the favorite now. Lotsa baggage and he'd be taking paycut! Pat Kelsey and Russell Springmann, reported to be candidates, have no interest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 31, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
is ou going to get in any ncaa trouble?  couldn't remember if that is fully resolved yet. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2011, 12:28:48 PM
as of today, this very second, OU is at LEAST the 3rd best job in the state of Oklahoma.  maybe 4th.  OSU, ORU, and Tulsa are all arguably better. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
Didn't see this anywhere

Quote
Sports by Brooks
Towson: Offering $400K. AD Mike Waddell doing search himself. Dalonte Hill prob the favorite now. Lotsa baggage and he'd be taking paycut! Pat Kelsey and Russell Springmann, reported to be candidates, have no interest.

will take (love dalonte btw)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 12:30:53 PM
(love dalonte btw)

I don't know. I'll have to see practice to see if he is more "animated" before I make my decision on 'te.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 12:34:55 PM
Quote
Dr. Walrod

Almost on scholarship
Post #274
MyFanPage

Delante Gone???
 


and the most famous catbacker bigot outs his GPC handle to the world
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 12:30:53 PM
(love dalonte btw)

I don't know. I'll have to see practice to see if he is more "animated" before I make my decision on 'te.

he's already done more for KSU than Tex Winter and Jack Hartman combined but you keep sitting on the fence
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 31, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  kstate isn't a better job than it was five years ago, ou isn't a worse job.  recent successes/failures are meaningless.


unless they move okc, move dallas and ou fball stops raking in money, clothing the entire state in crimson and getting on tv every week, ou will stay the 3rd best job in the big 12.

Oklahoma State has more of a cultural (and possibly monetary, don't know the figures) investment in basketball than OU, so they'll have the same media market advantage in OKC. Plus, here's the thing, nobody in Dallas really gives that much of a crap about college hoops, but those that do divide up the shares pretty equally between the four texas schools, OU, OSU, and KU. OU doesn't have an inherent advantage over any of those schools I listed in terms of tv market when it comes to basketball besides Baylor and maybe (MAYBE) Tech. Sure, OU may have tons of money, but so does UT and A&M, and OU can't flood their Texas pipeline for recruits like they do in basketball. When football recruits in Texas go to OU over A&M, Tech, Baylor, and occasionally UT, there is a little bit less of a pushback since, well, they're OU football. But if you're an elite Texas basketball player, you look at UT, A&M, and KU before you even consider OU. Recruiting in Texas isn't going to get any easier for OU now that Gillispie is at Tech. Plus, given OSU having a better atmosphere, a history about on par with OU's and Boone Pickens being their sugar daddy and bringing state of the art facilities to Stillwater, I'd argue that OSU probably has about the same influence with recruits as OU.

And you can't possibly say that K-State isn't a better job now than it was five years ago. If Frank were to leave, our potential pool of coaching applicants would be of a higher quality than when Wooly left. If we were to make five Final Fours in a row, you bet your ass that this would become a much more attractive job. Success defines a program's place in the national and regional pecking order. A five year period may not mean much to most programs, but 15 to 20 years absolutely does, and for you to deny it means that you're just being obstreperous. Remember when Maryland, Wake Forest, and Arkansas used to be good?

Here's the thing about OU: their fans no longer give a single crap about basketball, they haven't had a boatload of recent success, and their national brand is nowhere near what it once was. You can get by as a very solid program with maybe one or two of those deficiencies (see: Texas fans not giving two shits), but you can't experience all of those factors without a decline in program prestige. I mean, it's not a bad job by any means, and the potential is there for a coach to do very, very well there. But 15 years ago, the up and coming coaches in the world would've banged down the door for a job like OU, and it would've been higher on the totem pole than either MU or NCSU. That's no longer the case.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:02:23 PM
not really on this topic but this brought it up

Quote from:  bp
Frank knew Matt years BEFORE he knew Brad! & Delonte!

Matt gets the "toughest" game plan "scouts" [like Utah State]
over Brad & Delonte

Delonte was a good hire for the Player connections, improving as a Coach

Brad was a good hire for the Kansas State history & State connections, and
had Juco HC experience
Matt was John Pelphrey's TOP Assistant @ U South Alabama and @ U Arkansas
[for a couple of months]
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 31, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:02:23 PM
not really on this topic but this brought it up

Quote from:  bp
Frank knew Matt years BEFORE he knew Brad! & Delonte!

Matt gets the "toughest" game plan "scouts" [like Utah State]
over Brad & Delonte

Delonte was a good hire for the Player connections, improving as a Coach

Brad was a good hire for the Kansas State history & State connections, and
had Juco HC experience
Matt was John Pelphrey's TOP Assistant @ U South Alabama and @ U Arkansas
[for a couple of months]


Then why didn't Pelphrey take Matt with him?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
Success defines a program's place in the national and regional pecking order. A five year period may not mean much to most programs, but 15 to 20 years absolutely does.

fans think success defines a program's place in the pecking order, but they're either wrong, or they're confusing program prestige with job attractiveness.  short-term success does nothing to change how good a job is.  long-term success can, if it translates to increased support (fan), increased exposure, an increased budget and increased admin support (a.d. prioritization).

in kstate's case the facilities improvement makes it a better job.  but not much.  maybe we catch back up with isu or something, but basically it doesn't alter the pecking order within the conference.  the recent success may make the latent support for kstate bball more apparent, but it doesn't make it a better job.  that level of support for a moderately successful program always existed, and a candidate that was interested enough to research the job, or already familiar with it, would know that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:02:23 PM
not really on this topic but this brought it up

Quote from:  bp
Frank knew Matt years BEFORE he knew Brad! & Delonte!

Matt gets the "toughest" game plan "scouts" [like Utah State]
over Brad & Delonte

Delonte was a good hire for the Player connections, improving as a Coach

Brad was a good hire for the Kansas State history & State connections, and
had Juco HC experience
Matt was John Pelphrey's TOP Assistant @ U South Alabama and @ U Arkansas
[for a couple of months]


figgsey was demoted to dobo at arkansas when they moved there, i'm pretty sure.  not sure how that reconciles with "top asst" unless it was supposed to be a temp thing for some weird reason.

do agree that he's kstate's best asst/asst with best chance of someday being coach sevenfigga.  felels good to be aligned with bp.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spaces on March 31, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
Quote
I think Brooks missed again on this one. If Dalonte has taken the job, it's a recent development and happened at the 12th hour. Everybody I know says Pitt's Pat Skerry is the odds on favorite to land the gig.

The official search is down to three people, and while Dalonte interviewed, he was eliminated from consideration. This according to Curtis Malone, one of Dalonte's closest friends.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Spaces on March 31, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
Quote
Curtis Malone, one of Dalonte's closest friends.


pfffftttt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 31, 2011, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Spaces on March 31, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
Quote
Curtis Malone, one of Dalonte's closest friends.


pfffftttt

'clams has a better relationship with Malone than Dalonte does.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
the gpc delante thread is one of the funniest in a long time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 31, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
the gpc delante thread is one of the funniest in a long time.

Please cut/paste gems.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on March 31, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: doom on March 31, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
the gpc delante thread is one of the funniest in a long time.

Please cut/paste gems.


yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: doom on March 31, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
the gpc delante thread is one of the funniest in a long time.

Please cut/paste gems.

it wouldn't translate without the context.  most of the humor derives from cassidy posting (in a different thread) about halfway through that hill interviewed but was not selected as a finalist and the tucks almost universally ignoring him to keep posting that we'll be ok without him, sending goodbye best wishes, discussing what to do with all the money freed up by a cheaper replacement coach, arguing about who he recruited & who he didn't and debating who might replace him.  also about 1 in 3 spells his name correctly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:02:23 PM
not really on this topic but this brought it up

Quote from:  bp
Frank knew Matt years BEFORE he knew Brad! & Delonte!

Matt gets the "toughest" game plan "scouts" [like Utah State]
over Brad & Delonte

Delonte was a good hire for the Player connections, improving as a Coach

Brad was a good hire for the Kansas State history & State connections, and
had Juco HC experience
Matt was John Pelphrey's TOP Assistant @ U South Alabama and @ U Arkansas
[for a couple of months]


figgsey was demoted to dobo at arkansas when they moved there, i'm pretty sure.  not sure how that reconciles with "top asst" unless it was supposed to be a temp thing for some weird reason.

do agree that he's kstate's best asst/asst with best chance of someday being coach sevenfigga.  felels good to be aligned with bp.

Why would Utah State be a tough scout?  Also I'm 95% certain that I've heard Frank say that he doesn't assign the scout, they just rotate, take turns.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
I'm 95% certain that I've heard Frank say that he doesn't assign the scout, they just rotate, take turns.

yeah, pretty sure you're right.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Marshall's name coming up a lot in relation to NC State, as well as Smart.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 31, 2011, 07:01:47 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Marshall's name coming up a lot in relation to NC State, as well as Smart.


If any BCS school in a state with 'Carolina' in it offers him, he'll just fly there from New York and never even set foot in Wichita again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 31, 2011, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
15 years ago, maybe. Now it's arguable that they're not even the best job in their state.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  kstate isn't a better job than it was five years ago, ou isn't a worse job.  recent successes/failures are meaningless.


unless they move okc, move dallas and ou fball stops raking in money, clothing the entire state in crimson and getting on tv every week, ou will stay the 3rd best job in the big 12.

You've been saying a lot of stupid crap lately.  Why so off your game?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on March 31, 2011, 07:51:52 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: doom on March 31, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
the gpc delante thread is one of the funniest in a long time.

Please cut/paste gems.

it wouldn't translate without the context.  most of the humor derives from cassidy posting (in a different thread) about halfway through that hill interviewed but was not selected as a finalist and the tucks almost universally ignoring him to keep posting that we'll be ok without him, sending goodbye best wishes, discussing what to do with all the money freed up by a cheaper replacement coach, arguing about who he recruited & who he didn't and debating who might replace him.  also about 1 in 3 spells his name correctly.

That's really the only reason I keep GPC.  All the 'tards that use thread view completely miss all the important replies and then get PI'd (as weak as the PI'ing is over there) for the rest of the thread. 

Incidentally, the funniest thread I ever saw there was some dude told people to post their email and he'd tell them what BV did.  Every page there were 7 or 8 people laughing and making fun of all the morons that were posting their emails and the rest of the posts were morons still posting their emails.  It went about 4 or 5 pages and 3 or 4 days...which is EPIC for GPC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2011, 08:02:43 PM
newest name being thrown around down here in regards to the OU job is Steve Robinson

"Robinson was an assistant under Roy Williams, coached for a season at Tulsa with players Tubby Smith recruited, then went to Florida State and failed miserably as their coach.  He then went back to Kansas as an assistant under Roy Williams and then followed Roy to North Carolina." 

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on March 31, 2011, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 31, 2011, 08:02:43 PM
newest name being thrown around down here in regards to the OU job is Steve Robinson

"Robinson was an assistant under Roy Williams, coached for a season at Tulsa with players Tubby Smith recruited, then went to Florida State and failed miserably as their coach.  He then went back to Kansas as an assistant under Roy Williams and then followed Roy to North Carolina." 

 :lol:

:facepalm:

Jeezus.  They really don't give a crap, do they?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 01:18:37 PM
http://newsok.com/sources-ou-expected-to-name-lon-kruger-mens-basketball-coach/article/3554487?custom_click=lead_story_title

pretty bigtime if true.  could also free up my favorite canadian for figger.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Oklahoman reporting Lon Kruger taking Sooners job. My source: ``Not done yet; Kruger has turned it down twice. OU won't take no for answer."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Oklahoman reporting Lon Kruger taking Sooners job. My source: ``Not done yet; Kruger has turned it down twice. OU won't take no for answer."

 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 01:44:46 PM
Quote
ryanmgreene Ryan Greene
Was in a spring football meeting, but just got confirmation from a source: Kruger to #Oklahoma all but a done deal #UNLV

Quote
ryanmgreene Ryan Greene
Was told my report two days ago was accurate, but #Oklahoma's third offer too good to say no to. Hearing it's a 7-year deal. #UNLV
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
great hire by OU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
great hire by OU

This. Lon is a good coach. I wonder if he'll find the players to fit his runner/floater offense at OU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 01:49:27 PM
Wolken spreading his knowledge.

Quote
DanWolken Dan Wolken
Don't know how much UNLV can pay, but I'd rather have that job than N.C. State or Mizzou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 01:49:52 PM
Glad it's Kruger instead of Buzz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 01:49:52 PM
Glad it's Kruger instead of Buzz.

i'm happy for ou, not for kstate.  = to buzz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 01, 2011, 01:52:24 PM
not for kstate

meh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 01, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
amazing hire for OU, just what they needed....stability and a proven coach for several years.  Not sure that he's going to make them a 1st tier conference team, but they won't be down with iowa state anymore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 02:05:57 PM
Woo Hoo, KSU's sloppy seconds!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
yeah, capel scares me more than kruger. (recruiting)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: altman @ ksu & oregon
woo hoo, lonnie's sloppy seconds!

don't make the same mistake in five years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 02:08:29 PM
Quote
tsnmike Michael DeCourcy
Lon Kruger? How is it that Oklahoma keeps making the wrong basketball hire? I'm convinced there really is no direction for that program.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
yeah, capel scares me more than kruger. (recruiting)

following tmg and gallon, rumors had tx aau coaches as capel hating.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 01, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
great hire by OU

meh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: sys on April 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
yeah, capel scares me more than kruger. (recruiting)

following tmg and gallon, rumors had tx aau coaches as capel hating.

well, buzz would scare me more, then.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2011, 02:11:33 PM
well, buzz would scare me more, then.

yeah, he would have been a monster.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:14:57 PM
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/lon-gone-kruger-accepts-oklahoma-offer-119076989.html

(Don't care if that's been posted already, I didn't see it and that's all that matters)

Maybe Frank and Lon can try and out recruit each other on the "right fit 3 star trail to mediocrity".

I just hope that Frank finds a way to get more Pullen 3 star types than Nick Russell 3 star types.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 01, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
Kruger + OU = Anderson + MU - extended family ties - fabricated home court advantage

again: meh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fedor on April 01, 2011, 02:19:30 PM
Lonny to OU.

http://newsok.com/sources-ou-expected-to-name-lon-kruger-mens-basketball-coach/article/3554487?custom_click=lead_story_title
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 01, 2011, 02:20:03 PM
:deadhorse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
I am going to get Eddie Sutton, piss on an school wall drunk tonight to celebrate this ish.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 01, 2011, 02:34:37 PM
i can't see lon krueger helping with attendance much.  lloyd noble will still be pretty empty until they get results.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: econocat on April 01, 2011, 02:34:51 PM
Gonna be some culture shock going from Las Vegas to Norman Oklahoma  :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
I am going to get Eddie Sutton, piss on an school wall drunk tonight to celebrate this ish.

There is a growing contingent of ku fans, Sayers among them, who are preparing to award OU the 1988 National Title because it was the better team, so, things are really going well for SoonerHoopsfan this week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 01, 2011, 02:34:37 PM
i can't see lon krueger helping with attendance much.  lloyd noble will still be pretty empty until they get results.
But there is a rough ridin' chance OU can win some goddamn games now. last two years I went into many games in big 12 expecting to fuckign lose and get thrown into a sink by mario little.

Also its not like OU will ever have great attendance again, being a football school + thunder up the road = eff that.

Limestone are you trying to make me jizz my pants? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
SHF . . . please send/post video of your night tonight
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.

Can you expand on this Stony . . . is this a Sayersism??

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.

Can you expand on this Stony . . . is this a Sayersism??



Check the thread where Pete's deep sea rod got busted.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.
I rough ridin' hate Danny Manning with a burning passion, that was OU's goddamn national title.  eff you Danny Manning, eff you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bakerman on April 01, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.

Can you expand on this Stony . . . is this a Sayersism??



http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.35
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.

Can you expand on this Stony . . . is this a Sayersism??



Check the thread where Pete's deep sea rod got busted.

 :ck:


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2011, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 01, 2011, 02:41:40 PM
I'm dead serious.  "Danny and the Miracles" were a huge cinderella and certianly didn't win the right way.

Can you expand on this Stony . . . is this a Sayersism??



Check the thread where Pete's deep sea rod got busted.

 :ck:




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Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 01, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
jfc.  take his jersey out of the rafters.  that guy has done nothing but F ksu in the A.  Hey Lon, EMAS.  jerkstore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BW on April 01, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14367618 (http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14367618)

Kruger Tells TV Station He's Staying In Vegas

Despite reports that UNLV's Lon Kruger is to become the next head coach at the University of Oklahoma, a television station in Las Vegas says they just spoke with the coach and he says he's staying put.

The reports came hot and heavy this afternoon that Kruger -- who just led the Runnin' Rebels to their fourth NCAA Tournament appearance in his seven seasons -- would become the next head coach at OU and some even saying the deal was worth two million dollars a year for seven years.

But, Chris Maathuis at KLAS-TV in Las Vegas reports he spoke with Kruger and that he said he is staying at UNLV.

There has been no word out of Norman on the reports and so far, the only person who has interviewed for the job is Terry Evans, a former OU player and current head coach at the University of Central Oklahoma.

The report could be just the latest one to have OU nabbing a head coach only to have it be debunked. Earlier this week, reports had Illinois head coach Brucer Weber being the guy, only to have him announce he was staying with the Illini.

Others whose names have been linked to the OU job include Memphis Josh Pastner, Marquette's Buzz Williams and even Virginia Commonwealth's Shaka Smart, whose Rams play in the Final Four tomorrow night.

Kruger began his head coaching career in 1982 at Texas-Pan American, taking the Broncs to a 20-8 record in his final season before taking the head coaching job at his alma mater, Kansas State.

There, he guided the Wildcats to an Elite 8 appearance in his second season.

Kruger would go on to coach at Florida, reaching the Final Four in 1994 and later on to Illinois, where his Fighting Illini teams made the NCAA Tournament in three of four seasons.

He also coached the NBA's Atlanta Hawks from 2000 to 2003 and was an assistant with the Knicks in 2003-04 before jumping back into the collegiate ranks at UNLV in 2004-05.

In seven seasons, UNLV won nearly 70-percent of the games he coached and the Runnin' Rebels made the tournament four times, including a Sweet 16 appearance in 2007.

This season, UNLV suffered a first round loss to Illinois here at Tulsa's BOK Center.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 01, 2011, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: BW on April 01, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14367618 (http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14367618)

Kruger Tells TV Station He's Staying In Vegas

Despite reports that UNLV's Lon Kruger is to become the next head coach at the University of Oklahoma, a television station in Las Vegas says they just spoke with the coach and he says he's staying put.

The reports came hot and heavy this afternoon that Kruger -- who just led the Runnin' Rebels to their fourth NCAA Tournament appearance in his seven seasons -- would become the next head coach at OU and some even saying the deal was worth two million dollars a year for seven years.

But, Chris Maathuis at KLAS-TV in Las Vegas reports he spoke with Kruger and that he said he is staying at UNLV.

There has been no word out of Norman on the reports and so far, the only person who has interviewed for the job is Terry Evans, a former OU player and current head coach at the University of Central Oklahoma.

The report could be just the latest one to have OU nabbing a head coach only to have it be debunked. Earlier this week, reports had Illinois head coach Brucer Weber being the guy, only to have him announce he was staying with the Illini.

Others whose names have been linked to the OU job include Memphis Josh Pastner, Marquette's Buzz Williams and even Virginia Commonwealth's Shaka Smart, whose Rams play in the Final Four tomorrow night.

Kruger began his head coaching career in 1982 at Texas-Pan American, taking the Broncs to a 20-8 record in his final season before taking the head coaching job at his alma mater, Kansas State.

There, he guided the Wildcats to an Elite 8 appearance in his second season.

Kruger would go on to coach at Florida, reaching the Final Four in 1994 and later on to Illinois, where his Fighting Illini teams made the NCAA Tournament in three of four seasons.

He also coached the NBA's Atlanta Hawks from 2000 to 2003 and was an assistant with the Knicks in 2003-04 before jumping back into the collegiate ranks at UNLV in 2004-05.

In seven seasons, UNLV won nearly 70-percent of the games he coached and the Runnin' Rebels made the tournament four times, including a Sweet 16 appearance in 2007.

This season, UNLV suffered a first round loss to Illinois here at Tulsa's BOK Center.


:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 01, 2011, 04:34:35 PM
Great April Fool's prank by OU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 01, 2011, 04:39:32 PM
[redacted], I am going to keep drinking though.  That way it wont matter either way. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: goldenticket on April 01, 2011, 05:06:07 PM
espn says it will happen too

Oklahoma will name UNLV's Lon Kruger as its men's basketball coach, a source with direct knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6281370)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 05:42:03 PM
Is anyone else flabbergasted that Frank didn't do this to us?  I mean, he had documented money on the table and the only place that talked about it was this place. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
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ryanmgreene Ryan Greene
Confirmed: Kruger to #Oklahoma is 100 percent, etch-it-in-stone official. #UNLV
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
Quote
ryanmgreene Ryan Greene
Confirmed: Kruger to #Oklahoma is 100 percent, etch-it-in-stone official. #UNLV

Hope soonershoopsfan finds this info before he does something drastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 01, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
OU loves them their KSU coaches
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 01, 2011, 10:30:22 PM
Lance Veezer(SP) said it.  Gotta be true.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 01, 2011, 11:48:42 PM
Eff that guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 02, 2011, 12:16:58 AM
2.2 per?  What is Frank getting these days.  Looks like we are going to have to up the ante.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 02, 2011, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 01, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
amazing hire for OU, just what they needed....stability and a proven coach for several years.  Not sure that he's going to make them a 1st tier conference team, but they won't be down with iowa state anymore.

The Waters Begin to Calm
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

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Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 02, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

Quote
Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Pfft.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 02, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Kinda chaps me that I have more goddamn attachment to KSU than Lon Kruger does.    :angry:

Guarantee he's a KSU-killer @ OU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 02, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 02, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Kinda chaps me that I have more goddamn attachment to KSU than Lon Kruger does.    :angry:

Guarantee he's a KSU-killer @ OU.

We need to burn Silver Lake to the rough ridin' ground.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 02, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 02, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 02, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Kinda chaps me that I have more goddamn attachment to KSU than Lon Kruger does.    :angry:

Guarantee he's a KSU-killer @ OU.

We need to burn Silver Lake to the effing ground.

His nephew is a bitch. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

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Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Jason King has always sucked a bag of dicks and doesn't have the brains God gave a piss ant.

UNLV may want him, but that's a step back.  We could match any offer they'd muster.  The fact that he'd even report that is rough ridin' stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 02, 2011, 10:31:49 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

Quote
Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Jason King has always sucked a bag of dicks and doesn't have the brains God gave a piss ant.

UNLV may want him, but that's a step back.  We could match any offer they'd muster.  The fact that he'd even report that is effing stupid.

They paid Lon 1.1 or less.  Doesn't frank make 1.5?  GMAFB.  Yeah.  He'll go to the Mountain West for less money.   :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: doom on April 02, 2011, 10:31:49 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

Quote
Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Jason King has always sucked a bag of dicks and doesn't have the brains God gave a piss ant.

UNLV may want him, but that's a step back.  We could match any offer they'd muster.  The fact that he'd even report that is effing stupid.

They paid Lon 1.1 or less.  Doesn't frank make 1.5?  GMAFB.  Yeah.  He'll go to the Mountain West for less money.   :curse:


Jason King is an abomination.  He was a joke at the Star and now he's shitting all over Yahoo.

They had him on 610 the other day.  JFC, he's one of the worst college basketball writers I've ever read/heard.  The fact that he put this on his Twitter page is proof that he has no radar for what's scoop and what's bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
Quote from: doom on April 02, 2011, 10:31:49 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

Quote
Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Jason King has always sucked a bag of dicks and doesn't have the brains God gave a piss ant.

UNLV may want him, but that's a step back.  We could match any offer they'd muster.  The fact that he'd even report that is effing stupid.

They paid Lon 1.1 or less.  Doesn't frank make 1.5?  GMAFB.  Yeah.  He'll go to the Mountain West for less money.   :curse:


no kidding. UNLV is in deep financial crap and won't be paying crap for a coach. jfc
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 03, 2011, 12:11:16 AM
Any word on MU  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 12:13:00 AM
Also, JK thinks UNLV is a better job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

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@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 03, 2011, 08:56:26 AM
He's butthurt about the tourney and taking it out on the qats
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 03, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 12:13:00 AM
Also, JK thinks UNLV is a better job.

Of course he does.  He was stupid enough to go to Baylor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

Quote
@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM




I'm gonna start a university in Cancun.  WARM UP GETTING EVERY RECRUIT EVER, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!  LOL at Duke and North Carolina thinking they can be better at basketball than TU (Trim University) when they're in lame-ass NC.  Speaking of which, between Roy and Coach K, which one (or both) should I demote to an assistant?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

Quote
@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM




I'm gonna start a university in Cancun.  WARM UP GETTING EVERY RECRUIT EVER, MOTHEReffERS!!!  LOL at Duke and North Carolina thinking they can be better at basketball than TU (Trim University) when they're in lame-ass NC.  Speaking of which, between Roy and Coach K, which one (or both) should I demote to an assistant?

Roy.  Make him the coach at your Grand Cayman Islands campus.  Although, there's not really any "making" about it.  What coach or player in their right mind wouldn't jump on the first life boat from the cachole in Chapel Hill North Carolina for that basketball paradise?

Serious question.

 


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

Quote
@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM




I'm gonna start a university in Cancun.  WARM UP GETTING EVERY RECRUIT EVER, MOTHEReffERS!!!  LOL at Duke and North Carolina thinking they can be better at basketball than TU (Trim University) when they're in lame-ass NC.  Speaking of which, between Roy and Coach K, which one (or both) should I demote to an assistant?

Roy.  Make him the coach at your Grand Cayman Islands campus.  Although, there's not really any "making" about it.  What coach or player in their right mind wouldn't jump catch the first life boat from that shithole Chapel Hill North Carolina for that basketball paradise?

Serious question.

 




I'm thinking of some European campuses as well, but I'm not sure how hoops scheduling will work out.  Of course, it'll probably work out just fine as loser schools like Indiana and Kentucky (lol) will do about anything for the privilege of playing in my elite locations.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

Quote
@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM




I'm gonna start a university in Cancun.  WARM UP GETTING EVERY RECRUIT EVER, MOTHEReffERS!!!  LOL at Duke and North Carolina thinking they can be better at basketball than TU (Trim University) when they're in lame-ass NC.  Speaking of which, between Roy and Coach K, which one (or both) should I demote to an assistant?

Roy.  Make him the coach at your Grand Cayman Islands campus.  Although, there's not really any "making" about it.  What coach or player in their right mind wouldn't jump catch the first life boat from that cachole Chapel Hill North Carolina for that basketball paradise?

Serious question.

 




I'm thinking of some European campuses as well, but I'm not sure how hoops scheduling will work out.  Of course, it'll probably work out just fine as loser schools like Indiana and Kentucky (lol) will do about anything for the privilege of playing in my elite locations.


Both Ibiza and Monaco are roundball hotbeds.  I'd start there and then move on to less sexy destinations.





Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 10:37:37 AM
As crazy as it sounds, Jason King might be on to something here.

When it comes to basketball destinations for BCS Coaches, a mid-major in a hoops hotbed conference like the Mountain West minus BYU and Utah sounds pretty effing atractive right now...

 :bracketmouse:



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
Ryan Greene tweeted yesterday that UNLV would struggle to pay $1m to the next coach.  I told him I'd take it for $800K, but that's me - I really rough ridin' love Vegas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
Ryan Greene tweeted yesterday that UNLV would struggle to pay $1m to the next coach.  I told him I'd take it for $800K, but that's me - I really effing love Vegas.

Me too.  And if half of my incentive base was paid through casino comps and hookers, I probably wouldn't even turn it down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 03, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
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espn
 
Utah Utes hire New Jersey Nets assistant Larry Krystkowiak as coach - http://es.pn/ekCmlD

 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
Ryan Greene tweeted yesterday that UNLV would struggle to pay $1m to the next coach.  I told him I'd take it for $800K, but that's me - I really rough ridin' love Vegas.

I'm headed there tomorrow to see about setting up an interview/turning in app.  At mid-majors, do they expect you to dress like business casual or anything when your turning in the app?  I'm thinking chinos and a decent button up here but don't want to be too dressy...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 03, 2011, 12:21:41 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
Ryan Greene tweeted yesterday that UNLV would struggle to pay $1m to the next coach.  I told him I'd take it for $800K, but that's me - I really rough ridin' love Vegas.

I'm headed there tomorrow to see about setting up an interview/turning in app.  At mid-majors, do they expect you to dress like business casual or anything when your turning in the app?  I'm thinking chinos and a decent button up here but don't want to be too dressy...

Whatever Pat Knight wears should be good enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2011, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 03, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
Ryan Greene tweeted yesterday that UNLV would struggle to pay $1m to the next coach.  I told him I'd take it for $800K, but that's me - I really rough ridin' love Vegas.

I'm headed there tomorrow to see about setting up an interview/turning in app.  At mid-majors, do they expect you to dress like business casual or anything when your turning in the app?  I'm thinking chinos and a decent button up here but don't want to be too dressy...

From what I've gathered, the most critical element of all these coaching transactions is location.  So to show them you're serious, I'd pick up head-to-toe Vegas tourist wear at the airport and change into that before heading over to the T&M.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 03, 2011, 02:09:40 PM
Just hosted the first group of recruits at LSA&M, Banff campus this weekend.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 09:07:42 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 03, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
Somebody needs to choke this effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) out.

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@JasonKingYahoo:  If you were a 20-year-old kid or, hell, a coach - where would you rather live? Las Vegas or Manhattan, KS?
Twitter 4/3/11 7:22 AM




he's got a point.  no coach would ever leave Vegas for a small town on the plains, where football is king anyway
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 03, 2011, 09:46:23 PM
What can a 20 yr old kid do in Vegas anyway? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 03, 2011, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 03, 2011, 09:46:23 PM
What can a 20 yr old D1 athlete do in Vegas anyway? 

Anything he rough ridin' wants.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 03, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 03, 2011, 09:46:23 PM
What can a 20 yr old kid do in Vegas anyway? 

Your mom.

*This insult brought to you by the '90s.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 03, 2011, 10:28:36 PM
lol.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/haith-negotiating-with-missouri-for-hoops-job-29604
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 03, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/haith-negotiating-with-missouri-for-hoops-job-29604

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Multiple sources confirmed to me Sunday evening that University of Miami basketball coach Frank Haith is in negotiations with the University of Missouri to become its next basketball coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 03, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
repost


but  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 03, 2011, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 10:28:36 PM
lol.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/haith-negotiating-with-missouri-for-hoops-job-29604

what is this i don't even
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 03, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: pike on April 03, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
repost


but  :runaway:

CAC! I didn't check the masterthread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spaces on April 03, 2011, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 03, 2011, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 10:28:36 PM
lol.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/haith-negotiating-with-missouri-for-hoops-job-29604

what is this i don't even
  :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:01:23 PM
Quote
JoeWalljasper Joe Walljasper
Got confirmation that the University of Miami's Frank Haith has agreed to be Missouri's basketball coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2011, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 02, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Jason King Yahoo Twitter.  Trying to sabotage EMAW.    :comehere:

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Also heavily discussed: Frank Martin and Reggie Theus as top candidates at UNLV.
7 minutes ago via web


Jason King has always sucked a bag of dicks and doesn't have the brains God gave a piss ant.

UNLV may want him, but that's a step back.  We could match any offer they'd muster.  The fact that he'd even report that is rough ridin' stupid.

The funny part of this tweet for me is seeing Frank coupled with Reggie Theus.  Its like shopping for a car & trying to decide between a Lexus and a '96 Ford Taurus
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2011, 11:02:45 PM
crap just got real
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 03, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
My KITN-sense is tingling
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 10:28:36 PM
lol.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/haith-negotiating-with-missouri-for-hoops-job-29604

CartierFor3's spidey sense is tingling..........  trouble is on the way
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
There's a really good thread about this stuff, you should check it out
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:06:10 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 03, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
My KITN-sense is tingling

damn it 42
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 03, 2011, 11:08:06 PM
SEE U LATER!
Martin bolts K-State for Miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 03, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
oscar pearl plz.  sleazy disgraced recently fired coach worked out well for us last time.  maybe he'll bring some big time recruits that we can hire an assistant to keep when he leaves for his alma mater
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
Currie better get that rough ridin' checkbook ready.  If he and the tucks eff this up..............
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 03, 2011, 11:14:00 PM
Wow Missouri is scraping the bottom of the barrel on their coaching search, almost as hard as the K-State staff is scraping the bottom of the barrel on the 2011 recruiting trail.

Have we speculated yet if Pearl would wear a purple sports jacket??

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 03, 2011, 11:16:08 PM
Got to be a blessing Scott is a gaucho transfer U!  :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
was really looking forward to watching angel  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
@gregdoyelcbs

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Frank Martin is a Miami guy. The city, not the school. Would own recruiting there. Trust me, he'd CRAWL there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:18:52 PM
Pearl is our only hope. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
pearl is gonna get show-caused.

it's all over.  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:21:01 PM
jfc, i go to watch a tv show. I come back, and this crap happens? wtf
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 03, 2011, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
pearl is gonna get show-caused.

it's all over.  :cry:

yep
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 03, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
I'm going to rough ridin' lose it when we hire Underwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 03, 2011, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
pearl is gonna get show-caused.

it's all over.  :cry:

yep

sorry 42. you should probably return to emaj. it won't be pleasant in these parts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2011, 11:25:36 PM
Somewhere ADJC has a foot long rager that won't be subsiding for a long time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:26:10 PM
I would love Frank forever if he stays. :frown: goddamnit Mizzou. You just mumped over two big 12 schools.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 03, 2011, 11:27:32 PM
But really  :lol:  at Mizzou if they hire Haith.

If I was a Mizzou fan, I'd want Alden's head on a rough ridin' stick.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:28:06 PM
joke's on us dax. joke's on us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:26:10 PM
I would love Frank forever if he stays. :frown: goddamnit Mizzou. You just mumped over two big 12 schools.

The problem is that there will never be a more perfect time for him to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben_dover919 on April 03, 2011, 11:29:30 PM
we talk about zenger being a manchurian candidate but it looks like ku was way ahead of us cuz alden has to be a manchurian candidate for ku. that is the only explanation for this hire..he just ruined ku's two biggest rivals with one hire!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:29:37 PM
I know Rusty, I know. :frown:

Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
He gone, and GREAT timing for him RT @admcgregor3: @mellinger what's your take on the possible ramifications for Frank Martin and #Kstate?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 03, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 03, 2011, 11:27:32 PM
But really  :lol:  at Mizzou if they hire Haith.

If I was a Mizzou fan, I'd want Alden's head on a rough ridin' stick.



The fact that he is a graduate of my undergrad alma mater continues to bring endless shame to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 03, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
He's pointing Frank south, to South Beach

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2FLon-Kruger-unlv-rebels-basketball-youth-basketball-offenses-simple-basketball-plays-basketball-playbooks1.jpg&hash=0ca6e9b61b4d94bf7a077b6c85613eab0507fb1c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: SoonerHoopsfan on April 03, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
He's pointing Frank south, to South Beach

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2FLon-Kruger-unlv-rebels-basketball-youth-basketball-offenses-simple-basketball-plays-basketball-playbooks1.jpg&hash=0ca6e9b61b4d94bf7a077b6c85613eab0507fb1c)

i hope you get in a car crash
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
I'm going to effing lose it when we hire Underwood.

said these very words on the phone about 15 minutes ago.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 03, 2011, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:28:06 PM
joke's on us dax. joke's on us.

Haith was going to either get fired or move on in the next year anyway.  

Who didn't believe Frank wouldn't have been on the next plane out?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:29:37 PM
I know Rusty, I know. :frown:

Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
He gone, and GREAT timing for him RT @admcgregor3: @mellinger what's your take on the possible ramifications for Frank Martin and #Kstate?

this is very interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
I'm going to effing lose it when we hire Underwood.

said these very words on the phone about 15 minutes ago. 

can confirm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:37:19 PM
Well crap...Frank is gone.  But even more unbelievable is MU hiring Haith.  WTF are they thinking?  Is that really the best they could do?  Alden has to lose his job over this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 03, 2011, 11:38:18 PM
we're mumped :bang:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 03, 2011, 11:38:45 PM
We need to appoint a 24/7 goEMAW flight tracker ASAP
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
who do we go after? pearl not being an option..
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 03, 2011, 11:39:24 PM
i hate Missouri
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:39:40 PM
i think a

'grats beems
is in order here.  mizzou just pulled us off the cliff with them.  'grats beems.  'grats a million
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 03, 2011, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:31:34 PM

i hope you get in a car crash
Why you mad?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsportscasm.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2FLon-Kruger.jpg&hash=c032115e1797e7f2488320e6e33bcf5427a25896)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2011, 11:41:53 PM
Goddamnit BMW. You've rough ridin' earned it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2011, 11:42:54 PM
I'm going into denial until the news becomes official.

I'm going to take some solace in the fact that this guy is technically heading up the coaching search

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.fansonly.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fmifl%2Fsports%2Fgenrel%2Fauto_headshot%2F565492.jpeg&hash=9ef0118dccf692dab0b07ff16c5aa3974b4117da)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:43:42 PM
I think Underwood will be our next HC.  I'm not thrilled about it but I'd much rather have him than Haith.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 03, 2011, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2011, 11:42:54 PM
I'm going into denial until the news becomes official.

I'm going to take some solace in the fact that this guy is technically heading up the coaching search

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.fansonly.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fmifl%2Fsports%2Fgenrel%2Fauto_headshot%2F565492.jpeg&hash=9ef0118dccf692dab0b07ff16c5aa3974b4117da)

me too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:44:25 PM
Quote from: SoonerHoopsfan on April 03, 2011, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:31:34 PM

i hope you get in a car crash
Why you mad?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsportscasm.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2FLon-Kruger.jpg&hash=c032115e1797e7f2488320e6e33bcf5427a25896)


stab mike alden (not to kill, just seriously injure) for me and we'll call it even

EDIT:  Na I think I want to kill him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

Also, I would prefer haith to underwood big time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

Also, I would prefer haith to underwood big time.

I'm not sure why, Haith has proven he can't get it done at the D1 level...at least Underwood is an unknown commodity, very similar to Frank when we hired him.  I'll give him a chance.  I would rough ridin' revolt if i was an MU fan.

Our only hope is that Miami doesn't want Frank and his baggage
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2011, 11:52:08 PM
How much will be pay HCBU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 03, 2011, 11:53:15 PM
Grumblings that FHCFM is getting fitted for these as we speak
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
"@MatthewHLeach: How's Miami going to pay Frank Martin? ~ Sincere question, no snark. Not saying it won't happen, but where's the money come from?"

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 03, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
"@MatthewHLeach: How's Miami going to pay Frank Martin? ~ Sincere question, no snark. Not saying it won't happen, but where's the money come from?"

 :crossfingers:

Thank God we payed Frank when we had a chance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 03, 2011, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 03, 2011, 11:44:25 PM

stab mike alden (not to kill, just seriously injure) for me and we'll call it even

EDIT:  Na I think I want to kill him.
Ok if I do that, then will you tell me how make this my signature on here.

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I'm a little drunk this evening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:57:16 PM
i can't believe how perfect frank is for the U.

he will bring the same swagger the fb team has/had to the bball team.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 03, 2011, 11:57:35 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
"@MatthewHLeach: How's Miami going to pay Frank Martin? ~ Sincere question, no snark. Not saying it won't happen, but where's the money come from?"

 :crossfingers:
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 :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

i think she probably is.  she's supposedly cheap and/or poor, and i believe the newtimes is free.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

Also, I would prefer haith to underwood big time.

I'm not sure why, Haith has proven he can't get it done at the D1 level...at least Underwood is an unknown commodity, very similar to Frank when we hired him.  I'll give him a chance.  I would rough ridin' revolt if i was an MU fan.

Our only hope is that Miami doesn't want Frank and his baggage

Underwood is nothing like Frank. At all. And you're rough ridin' crazy for suggesting it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 04, 2011, 12:00:00 AM
i told myself during the season at one point, "i'd be okay with underwood when frank leaves."

but now that it actually may be a possibility, i say eff NO.

sad thing is, i don't know who we could get that's better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Steven St John
Quote
KSU fans...I apologize for the awful hire Mike Alden made and I'm sorry if it forces Frank Martin to leave...I actually hope he stays.

meek
Quote
One thing to keep in mind re: Miami ... currently without an AD. Interim appointed after Hocutt left for Texas Tech.

mike decoursey
Quote
Miami -- basketball wasteland. Do solid work there building a respectable program, don't expect credit. Good luck to Frank Haith successor!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 04, 2011, 12:03:14 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Steven St John
Quote
KSU fans...I apologize for the awful hire Mike Alden made and I'm sorry if it forces Frank Martin to leave...I actually hope he stays.

meek
Quote
One thing to keep in mind re: Miami ... currently without an AD. Interim appointed after Hocutt left for Texas Tech.

mike decoursey
Quote
Miami -- basketball wasteland. Do solid work there building a respectable program, don't expect credit. Good luck to Frank Haith successor!

decoursey is a rough ridin' pos
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

Also, I would prefer haith to underwood big time.

I'm not sure why, Haith has proven he can't get it done at the D1 level...at least Underwood is an unknown commodity, very similar to Frank when we hired him.  I'll give him a chance.  I would rough ridin' revolt if i was an MU fan.

Our only hope is that Miami doesn't want Frank and his baggage

Underwood is nothing like Frank. At all. And you're rough ridin' crazy for suggesting it.

I'm guessing you were a huge fan of the Frank martin hire when it happened?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
Quote
AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
Miami is Frank Martin`s `dream job,` D-1 source says.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:08:32 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 03, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: sys on April 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
do you guys read the miami newtimes?  love that paper.

My only hope is that Donna Shalala is also a big fan.

Also, I would prefer haith to underwood big time.

I'm not sure why, Haith has proven he can't get it done at the D1 level...at least Underwood is an unknown commodity, very similar to Frank when we hired him.  I'll give him a chance.  I would rough ridin' revolt if i was an MU fan.

Our only hope is that Miami doesn't want Frank and his baggage

Underwood is nothing like Frank. At all. And you're rough ridin' crazy for suggesting it.

I'm guessing you were a huge fan of the Frank martin hire when it happened?

Good guess. It was the best hire we could have made.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 12:09:22 AM
miami is too busy worrying about football to give a eff about basketball.  katz will probably have to try to sell frank to those dumbasses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:12:06 AM
Quote from: j-dub on April 03, 2011, 11:57:16 PM
i can't believe how perfect frank is for the U.

he will bring the same swagger the fb team has/had to the bball team.

The ESPN doc on The Basketball U in 20 years is going to be epic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
meh, Frank knows the Miami job is gonna be open again in a few years.  We've got the new facility coming.  They can't afford it right now, and Franks not gonna go into a job having zero clue who his boss is going to be (yes, i'm in denial) not about losing Frank, just who the eff are we going to replace him with?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:16:04 AM
how many pages til we match Smoke Your Cigars?  This one could be an epic one. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 04, 2011, 12:17:30 AM
Quote from: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
meh, Frank knows the Miami job is gonna be open again in a few years.  We've got the new facility coming.  They can't afford it right now, and Franks not gonna go into a job having zero clue who his boss is going to be (yes, i'm in denial) not about losing Frank, just who the eff are we going to replace him with?
thanks. i needed this   :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 12:19:04 AM
frank and jake. this is how it ends. losing possibly our most beloved player and coach in a matter of days. damn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 04, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
Quote from: Tobias on April 03, 2011, 11:57:35 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
"@MatthewHLeach: How's Miami going to pay Frank Martin? ~ Sincere question, no snark. Not saying it won't happen, but where's the money come from?"

 :crossfingers:
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They prolly have lotso strippers that need their temps checked.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:20:24 AM
Quote from: sunny_cat on April 04, 2011, 12:17:30 AM
Quote from: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
meh, Frank knows the Miami job is gonna be open again in a few years.  We've got the new facility coming.  They can't afford it right now, and Franks not gonna go into a job having zero clue who his boss is going to be (yes, i'm in denial) not about losing Frank, just who the eff are we going to replace him with?
thanks. i needed this   :D

would only be playing in front of roughly 8,000 fans as well because that's what the arena appears to hold.  Will be interested, but home is home.  I came back to KC from ventures away for a few year....what a horrible effing idea it was to come back.  Frank don't follow the light, it's headlights from a train!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:21:16 AM
Quote from: MadCat on April 04, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
Quote from: Tobias on April 03, 2011, 11:57:35 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 03, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
"@MatthewHLeach: How's Miami going to pay Frank Martin? ~ Sincere question, no snark. Not saying it won't happen, but where's the money come from?"

 :crossfingers:
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 :ohno:


They prolly have lotso strippers that need their temps checked.

So does Las Vegas!  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:22:38 AM
Denis Clemente and Jacob Pullen....co head coaches?  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Powercat Posse on April 04, 2011, 12:23:29 AM
Just read that Mizzou is expected to make Miami Head Coach Frank Haith their next HC.   It was sited as a AP source
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:23:42 AM
Bruck effing Pearl, the email has been sent  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 04, 2011, 12:24:21 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12275.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12275.0)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:24:39 AM
This is news.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:24:54 AM
At least I can enjoy d. Scott's oblivion on twitter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 12:25:47 AM
We should offer to play at least half the non-con home games in Jupiter, Florida.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 04, 2011, 12:26:00 AM
It's like we're posting to a wall sometimes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 04, 2011, 12:27:03 AM
KU fans think Jank would be a great hire....jfc :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Powercat Posse on April 04, 2011, 12:27:55 AM
Oops my bad.  Forgot there was a thread for coaching carousel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:29:06 AM
_33....warm up the Frank Martin tribute video
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on April 04, 2011, 12:29:29 AM
God melting down just feels so damn good.
 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

( :woot: )
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:29:06 AM
_33....warm up the Frank Martin tribute video

yeah. definitely gonna need this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
Where will Kirk go for negotiations? OLIVE GARDEN ISN'T OPEN AT THIS HOUR!!!

 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 12:35:37 AM
those effing breadsticks.. will never get over that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
Where will Kirk go for negotiations? OLIVE GARDEN ISN'T OPEN AT THIS HOUR!!!

 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

IHOP or Bobs Diner :flush: We're doomed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 12:37:39 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
Where will Kirk go for negotiations? OLIVE GARDEN ISN'T OPEN AT THIS HOUR!!!

 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

If he has any decency, he'll go to Avivo Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 12:41:22 AM
Sam melinger tweet:
I'll explain the "great timing" thing on the blog tomorrow
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
Quote
AGoldFan Adam Gold
retweeted by DScottFritchen
Miami is one of the WORST jobs in any BCS conference. No fans, no edge at home, marginal coverage and not a lot if $$.

Who the hell is Adam Gold?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 12:48:09 AM
So, I guess most of our team plus all the incoming guys will follow Frank and 'Te.  We're going to be like freaking Iowa State now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bigDcat on April 04, 2011, 12:49:32 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
Quote
AGoldFan Adam Gold
retweeted by DScottFritchen
Miami is one of the WORST jobs in any BCS conference. No fans, no edge at home, marginal coverage and not a lot if $$.

Who the hell is Adam Gold?
Quote from: Adam Gold's bio:
Radio host (TheFan/ESPN in Raleigh), devoted husband and father of 2.  I take NOTHING seriously, except for my dislike of liars and frauds.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:51:06 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

Currie and the 'tucks are our only hope.  God help us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 04, 2011, 12:51:43 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:51:06 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

Currie and the 'tucks are our only hope.  God help us.

I believe in John Currie.
 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

kstate is a better job.  i don't think he leaves for miami unless he feels like he needs to go.  in which case, it's probably best for both kstate and martin that he go.  i wouldn't go crazy with new money right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2011, 12:53:58 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
kstate is a better job.  

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

kstate is a better job.  i don't think he leaves for miami unless he feels like he needs to go.  in which case, it's probably best for both kstate and martin that he go.  i wouldn't go crazy with new money right now.

Sys, I don't want to watch my ksu bball burn to the ground again.  I'm freaking out right now.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 12:54:15 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:51:06 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

Currie and the 'tucks are our only hope.  God help us.

And this time there are no games left for Pete and KK to boo some sense into people.   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:55:25 AM
And why the hell you Mizzou want Haith anyway?  He sucks.  You can do better Mizzou, for our sake and yours, please.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2011, 12:55:36 AM
Quote
MI3Tay Martavious Irving
I was falling asleep, but woke up with a craving for lobster...lol


guys, they have lobsters in the ocean :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:56:52 AM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:58:23 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:54:05 AM
sys, I don't want to watch my ksu bball burn to the ground again.  I'm freaking out right now.  

me neither.

but look, miami is a crap job.  so the only way martin leaves is if he cares about nothing other than living in south florida (his record does not suggest this), in which case he's gone no matter what.  or if he thinks he's not going to be winning at kstate over the next couple years.  in which case, best he go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:56:52 AM
:dubious:

we're not going to stay cute anymore :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

kstate is a better job.  i don't think he leaves for miami unless he feels like he needs to go.  in which case, it's probably best for both kstate and martin that he go.  i wouldn't go crazy with new money right now.

Yeah, 2.2 is awfully high for the good, not great program Frank has built.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 12:59:49 AM
has anyone taken time to consider how much Mike Alden loves ku basketball?  i mean damn.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:56:52 AM
:dubious:

we're not going to stay cute anymore :goodbyecruelworld:
:dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 01:01:03 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
I think it is time to pay Frank again.  Pre-emptive strike.  2.2 mill.  Do we have the money?  I dunno. I can't take watching ksu hoops crumble again.  I can't take it.

kstate is a better job.  i don't think he leaves for miami unless he feels like he needs to go.  in which case, it's probably best for both kstate and martin that he go.  i wouldn't go crazy with new money right now.

Yeah, 2.2 is awfully high for the good, not great program Frank has built.

If Arkansas is willing to give Mike Anderson that much, then screw it, pay Frank.  He will earn it eventually. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:56:52 AM
:dubious:

we're not going to stay cute anymore :goodbyecruelworld:
:dubious:


remember when we were the most adorable team in college basketball? now we're gonna load up on a bunch of white bros from hays and wakeeney :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: the KHAN! on April 04, 2011, 01:05:37 AM
My amazing weekend just got rough ridin' ruined because Mizzou made a bad hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: RightMeow on April 04, 2011, 01:11:35 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 12:56:52 AM
:dubious:

we're not going to stay cute anymore :goodbyecruelworld:
:dubious:


remember when we were the most adorable team in college basketball? now we're gonna load up on a bunch of white bros from hays and wakeeney :horrorsurprise:

Everyone knows the best players are from Colby/Grainfield area.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWesome on April 04, 2011, 01:16:25 AM
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Frank Martin is a Miami guy. The city, not the school. Would own recruiting there. Trust me, he'd CRAWL there.

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 04, 2011, 03:06:00 AM
can we take kruger?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HawaiiCat on April 04, 2011, 04:21:07 AM
Frank hates the media and there is a large contingent in the miami media who HATE Frank. Maybe it's stuff like this http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/12/revistiting_frank_martin_the_k.php that could keep him in manhattan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 04:55:48 AM
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FITZ
Manhattan, Kan.

What an odd hire

Not sure what Missouri is thinking in hiring Frank Haith, but as of now I have no worries Miami has the resources or Frank Martin has any interest to make a Miami-Martin marriage occur.



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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on April 04, 2011, 05:48:53 AM
WTF! I go to bed early and wake up to this? Screw this, never going to bed before 10 again.

LCCIQ here, but if KITN happens does this become the longest major college coaching carousel in recent memory? Does it take a perfect storm to put us a full 3 rungs below Arkansas on the coaching pyramid? Is there anyone we could poach to keep it going? say Anthony Grant :crossfingers:? Should I be  :runaway: :drink: :barf: at 6 am or is this all  :jerk:?

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 05:55:59 AM
Grats beems
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 06:18:02 AM
Time to launder the Pay Frank shirts.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 04:55:48 AM
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I have no worries ... Frank Martin has any interest to make a Miami-Martin marriage occur.

what a dumb eff.  of course frank has at least little interest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 06:26:33 AM
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@GottliebShow: Morning tweeps,sorry Mizzou fans it was not a bad dream Frank Haith is really ur coach. Frank Martin and Anthony Grant are the first 2 calls
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 06:32:12 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 04:55:48 AM
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I have no worries ... Frank Martin has any interest to make a Miami-Martin marriage occur.

what a dumb eff.  of course frank has at least little interest.

IT'S NOT MARTIN!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 06:32:59 AM
So what's Frank's buyout or w/e? how much would he owe ksu if he left?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:33:33 AM
Quote from: greggdoyelcbs
Frank Martin is a Miami guy. The city, not the school. Would own recruiting there. Trust me, he'd CRAWL there.




god-f'ing-damnit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 06:39:09 AM
Just woke up.   :frown: wtf

Please don't leave us Frank.   :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:40:15 AM
we hire Gregg Marshall and I'm done with everything ksu.  we'll have nothing. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 06:42:41 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 04, 2011, 04:55:48 AM
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I have no worries ... Frank Martin has any interest to make a Miami-Martin marriage occur.

what a dumb eff.  of course frank has at least little interest.


It's amazing and not amazing that he continues to make these types of asinine statements.  It's as if he literally is a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Obviously Frank will have interest, if nothing else to do what is best for his family.  The guy spent 30 years of his professional life there.  The pay scale in the Big XII has been considerably elevated in recent weeks.  What the eff is he paying an agent for if he's not trying to leverage more money with K-State's weakened position.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 06:43:20 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:40:15 AM
we hire Gregg Marshall and I'm done with everything ksu.  we'll have nothing. 

At least we have footb....  shazbot! YOU MISSOURI !!!!!!!!!!!!  :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 06:46:25 AM
I think if miami can scratch up 1.75 ish he's gone for sure.  And I think it fits Frank's MO, he's worked his ass off after losing what was probably his dream job at miami high and now he's got the chance to go back.

The question will probably be if they can afford the buy out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
why wouldn't frank leave?  it wasn't like ksu was setting attenedance records at KSU before Huggins/Martin got here.  As a fan base, we gave a sh*t about basketball just as much as Miami does.  Winnning will bring them, just as it did here.  And it's great timing.  With Jake gone and an unbalanced roster, he will have to do some rebuilding/retooling on this roster.  why not do that at home with probably a better opportunity with easier recruiting?  he's f'ing gone.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 06:47:41 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
why wouldn't frank leave?  it wasn't like ksu was setting attenedance records at KSU before Huggins/Martin got here.  As a fan base, we gave a sh*t about basketball just as much as Miami does.  Winnning will bring them, just as it did here.  And it's great timing.  With Jake gone and an unbalanced roster, he will have to do some rebuilding/retooling on this roster.  why not do that at home with probably a better opportunity with easier recruiting?  he's f'ing gone. 

yeah, I don't have much hope right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: treysolid on April 04, 2011, 06:47:58 AM
i am totally down with Trim's suggestion of moving half our games to Jupiter.  I'd like to get PAK'd and walk to games.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 04, 2011, 06:52:29 AM
would be stunned if he stays. the thought miami and frank can even excite me
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 06:53:54 AM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 04, 2011, 06:52:29 AM
would be stunned if he stays. the thought miami and frank can even excite me

I've found myself online shopping for U hats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:57:20 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
As a fan base, we gave a sh*t about basketball just as much as Miami does.  Winnning will bring them, just as it did here. 

nah, they truly don't give a eff.  even if they are winning.  they only care about football.  but i think that aspect is way overrated in coaching change discussions.  i totally agree with your point about much easier recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:00:05 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 04, 2011, 06:46:25 AM
I think if miami can scratch up 1.75 ish he's gone for sure.  And I think it fits Frank's MO, he's worked his ass off after losing what was probably his dream job at miami high and now he's got the chance to go back.

The question will probably be if they can afford the buy out.

THIS

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Andy on April 04, 2011, 07:16:59 AM
the same people freaking out about Martin leaving are the same people who wanted him fired back in january.

currie hasn't let me down yet.  cautiously optimistic no matter what ends up happening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 07:21:35 AM
Meh.

Frank really wants to go home if he leaves for Miami. The best coach in the program's history is Leonard Hamilton. He led them to half (3) of their programs NCAA appearances, and basically built the team that went to a fourth after he left.

Any concern I have is very (very) slight.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:28:11 AM
I have no idea what is in Frank's head.  But, IF he does want to go home, why is Miami worse than we were when he took over?  You think South Florida kids care if Miami didnt have years of pre segregation basketball glory like we do?

All it takes is for one alum to step up with cash for a practice facility, and Franks cooking down there.   Do Michael Irvine or Portis like hoops?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:30:30 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 07:21:35 AM
Meh.

Frank really wants to go home if he leaves for Miami. The best coach in the program's history is Leonard Hamilton. He led them to half (3) of their programs NCAA appearances, and basically built the team that went to a fourth after he left.

Any concern I have is very (very) slight.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:31:37 AM
Frank would be stupid not to go to Miami as long as they can pay roughly what we will pay.  Congrats to Frank.  He's earned the eff out of this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 07:32:50 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:28:11 AM
I have no idea what is in Frank's head.  But, IF he does want to go home, why is Miami worse than we were when he took over?  You think South Florida kids care if Miami didnt have years of pre segregation basketball glory like we do?

All it takes is for one alum to step up with cash for a practice facility, and Franks cooking down there.   Do Michael Irvine or Portis like hoops?

I agree with this. Miami doesn't support bball because they haven't been very good at bball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 04, 2011, 07:36:53 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:31:37 AM
Frank would be stupid not to go to Miami as long as they can pay roughly what we will pay.  Congrats to Frank.  He's earned the eff out of this.

my question is can they pay his assistants?? frank has always been very loyal to his group of coaches that he has put together, also how much do we pay wsu's coach?  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 04, 2011, 07:37:19 AM
The most important thing not being talked about in all of this, is...When the great college football realignment happens, "The U" has a guaranteed seat at the table, we do not. Send us a postcard from the beach, Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 04, 2011, 07:37:43 AM
The is going to be more exciting then the news from Japan....maybe now we know why Wally hasn't left and why angel hasn't signed...going to be epic
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 07:39:31 AM
The good thing is that a coaching search is pretty phenomenal to follow on twitter.  It could be gut wrenching (Painter), but should make for some fun days of BBSing/tweeting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 04, 2011, 07:42:28 AM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 04, 2011, 07:36:53 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:31:37 AM
Frank would be stupid not to go to Miami as long as they can pay roughly what we will pay.  Congrats to Frank.  He's earned the eff out of this.

my question is can they pay his assistants?? frank has always been very loyal to his group of coaches that he has put together, also how much do we pay wsu's coach?  :goodbyecruelworld:
All moot points. One of his assistants will be our head coach, unless Currie goes above and beyond our past ADs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 04, 2011, 07:44:01 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 04, 2011, 07:42:28 AM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 04, 2011, 07:36:53 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:31:37 AM
Frank would be stupid not to go to Miami as long as they can pay roughly what we will pay.  Congrats to Frank.  He's earned the eff out of this.

my question is can they pay his assistants?? frank has always been very loyal to his group of coaches that he has put together, also how much do we pay wsu's coach?  :goodbyecruelworld:
All moot points. One of his assistants will be our head coach, unless Currie goes above and beyond our past ADs.

urite, just trying to deflect the obligatory KITN thats coming
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 07:45:37 AM
fan support doesn't mean jack crap. sorry guys, it's irrelevant. the question is whether or not Frank could do a better job recruiting to Miami than he does here, therefore giving him a better chance to win.

Plus, there's a bunch of turds in the ACC for coaches. Frank is instantly the fourth biggest name out of all those pudnuts, and #3 is Gary rough ridin' Williams. He'll be a goddam star.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 07:39:31 AM
The good thing is that a coaching search is pretty phenomenal to follow on twitter.  It could be gut wrenching (Painter), but should make for some fun days of BBSing/tweeting.

I don’t have time this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:47:04 AM
probably pretty excited to get backing to kicking the crap out of Bzdealiachik led teams too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Andy on April 04, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
some espnradio guy in miami being interviewed on 610 just said he doesnt see miami paying $2mil/yr for a coach...said they settled on their 3rd/4th choice for a football coach at a football school....boosters don't care about basketball...sees miami going after a cheap/young coach...said frank martin is totally out of their price range...


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 07:48:45 AM
Theres no personal state income tax in Florida! How can we compete?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 07:49:57 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 04, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
some espnradio guy in miami being interviewed on 610 just said he doesnt see miami paying $2mil/yr for a coach...said they settled on their 3rd/4th choice for a football coach at a football school....boosters don't care about basketball...sees miami going after a cheap/young coach...said frank martin is totally out of their price range...

Frank can name his price and hook the u up with the means to pay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 07:50:30 AM
Don't forget the AD there is a KSU guy do you think he would be able to show his face here again if he did this?
DO YOU?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 07:51:23 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 04, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
some espnradio guy in miami being interviewed on 610 just said he doesnt see miami paying $2mil/yr for a coach...said they settled on their 3rd/4th choice for a football coach at a football school....boosters don't care about basketball...sees miami going after a cheap/young coach...said frank martin is totally out of their price range...




The guy you heard talking about it should post here more often. I like his positive outlook on things.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 07:50:30 AM
Don't forget the AD there is a KSU guy do you think he would be able to show his face here again if he did this?
DO YOU?!

Hocutt left for TTU. Is their interim AD a KSU guy too?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 07:55:53 AM
Frank will not leave K-State for Miami.  U of Florida?  Yes.  Florida State?  Possibly, but not likely.  Miami?  No.  Basketball is the third most popular sport at Miami behind football and baseball.  Also, Miami is in some financial trouble right now.

Wake me up when Donovan leaves UF.  :zzz:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 07:56:22 AM
'member when Anya cried at the end of that CBS video? Frank is staying.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
kinda wish ART would have signed  :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
Maybe Denis can call Frank up and trash on Miami bball for awhile.  You know tell him all sorts of horrible things.  MAybe that will help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:01:24 AM
my god, this is going to be excellent. whether he stays or goes, idgaf. not compared to the excitement of what's about to go down on goEMAW.

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:02:07 AM
Rumblings that Frank is too expensive for Miami.  Miami still needs to hire an AD, and Alumni only care about football.  According to a local Miami journalist on 610 this morning, Miami is in the middle of a giant budget crisis and all financial support right now is put towards "becoming relevant again in football."  Apparently they had to go to their 4th coaching option in football cause they couldn't afford to hire 1st/2nd/3rd??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 08:03:01 AM
Frank do you know how many murders there were in Manhattan last year?.....maybe one I don't really know.
Frank do you know how many murders there were in Miami last year?....a lot more, again I don't really know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 04, 2011, 08:03:41 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:02:07 AM
Rumblings that Frank is too expensive for Miami.  Miami still needs to hire an AD, and Alumni only care about football.  According to a local Miami journalist on 610 this morning, Miami is in the middle of a giant budget crisis and all financial support right now is put towards "becoming relevant again in football."  Apparently they had to go to their 4th coaching option in football cause they couldn't afford to hire 1st/2nd/3rd??

So Frank comes in looking like a hero when he shows up and turns around the entire athletic department.  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
I wonder if any of these alumni dudes like basketball and would take a liking to Frank?  

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Warren Sapp
Dan Morgan
Bennie Blades
Kellen Winslow II
Russell Maryland
Bryant McKinnie
Clinton Portis
Edgarrin James
Willis McGahee
Santana Moss
Jeremy Shockey
Jonathan Vilma
Vince Wilfork
Vinny Testaverde
Gino Torretta
Ken Dorsey
Ed Reed
Reggie Wayne
Jim Kelly
Bernie Kosar
Leon Searcy
CEO of Carnival Corporation and owner of the Miami Heat
former president and COO of the McDonald's Corporation
president and CEO of American Eagle Airlines
CEO of Bruegger's Enterprises Inc.
Gloria Estefan
Enrique Iglesias


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
frank has been positioning underwood to take over at ksu for the past year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
I wonder if any of these alumni dudes like basketball and would take a liking to Frank?  

president and CEO of American Eagle Airlines

He wouldn't, unless he wants to lose a major contract to a regional airport in the midwest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
frank has been positioning underwood to take over at ksu for the past year.

First thing I thought of.  If we still had Weefs around, this would already be done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:07:56 AM
Not saying it can't happen.  Locals just don't think Miami U can pony up the $2 mill per yr.  Plus, the question was asked whether Big Alums (as mentioned above) could/would pony up for Frank.  Answer was highly unlikely because they would rather see the football program back at the top before basketball is given much of a shot.  The journalist assumed Miami will go after a no-name coach for around $1.2 mill.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:11:25 AM
Now if Miami hires Frank as both coach and Athletic Director....   :ohno:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 04, 2011, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
frank has been positioning underwood to take over at ksu for the past year.

Longer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
frank has been positioning underwood to take over at ksu for the past year.

First thing I thought of.  If we still had Weefs around, this would already be done.

Nah, Weefs would try to find a way for Bill and/or Sean Snyder to take 'er over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:14:25 AM
Not only does fan support not matter, neither does the U's ability to pay $2 mil. WVU didn't pay Huggs more than we were.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience. 

heh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:18:25 AM
say hypothetically Frank wants to stay and Miami can't pay more than 1.5.  would be interesting to see if he tried to play the salary bump/coaching search game in the media.  would be hard with the money limitations at Miami.  plus, he didn't (in public) with the 2 million depaul offer and there were rumblings NC State reached out and was denied without a peep from the local media.  does Katz just not do that?  Seems weird not to.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:19:36 AM
We don't stand a chance with our directs to ORD and DFW. Miami is a rough ridin' hub for AA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:21:10 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

my exact reasoning why Bill Self should take the UNLV job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

outside of UT, which team won't regress/struggle?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience.  

Jesus, he will build a monster down there.  Shakey and Art are probably jerking themselves off right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

outside of UT, which team won't regress/struggle?

OSU will be better...ISU will be better (still suck)...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience.  

Jesus, he build a monster down there.  Shakey and Art are probably jerking themselves off right now.

he would get the exact same amount of recruits from them that he does here. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:26:35 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience. 

Jesus, he build a monster down there.  Shakey and Art are probably jerking themselves off right now.

he would get the exact same amount of recruits from them that he does here. 

I think it would be pretty close. It might be easier for him to get the non-Shakey guys in the area at the U, along with guys from other parts of the east coast.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 08:27:53 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:26:35 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
why do people think it will take $2m for frank to go?  it will probably take equal-ish money.  that's maybe 1.2-1.5M.  it will be entirely easier for not only frank, but unds, figgs, and te to recruit out of miami, especially given their connections/prior experience. 

Jesus, he build a monster down there.  Shakey and Art are probably jerking themselves off right now.

he would get the exact same amount of recruits from them that he does here. 

I think it would be pretty close. It might be easier for him to get the non-Shakey guys in the area at the U, along with guys from other parts of the east coast.

But he wouldn't get the Will Spradlings of the midwest.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rcjh88 on April 04, 2011, 08:29:52 AM
I hope Frank doesn't leave, he is good for the conference. If what he has always said about loving ksu is true I don't see him leaving. He has built a good thing and would be crazy to go. Do you think your ad would overpay to keep him?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:30:30 AM
FWIW, Frank's current buyout is $1 mil.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:31:47 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:30:30 AM
FWIW, Frank's current buyout is $1 mil.

well, that's good
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
Anybody know Kelvin Sampson's status with the NCAA?

DO WANT
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

outside of UT, which team won't regress/struggle?

OSU will be better...ISU will be better (still suck)...

I guess that's my point. OSU won't improve enough to be a title threat. ISU is full of losers. MU has Frank Haith. It looks like the slaves have a clean break at getting away from their master. OU will suck. TT will suck. Baylor will suck.

I think the fact that KSU will regress is canceled out with with how much everyone else will suck.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 04, 2011, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
frank has been positioning underwood to take over at ksu for the past year.

Longer.

i guess it's just been shoved down my throat much more this year. "well, brad came to me after the colorado game and suggested this "new offense"..."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rcjh88 on April 04, 2011, 08:34:39 AM
What about Steve Alford if Frank leaves?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:36:17 AM
How does playing/recruiting against UNC and Duke every year play into this?  KU seems to be the only team in the Big 12 Frank has trouble winning.  Could he get it done at least once a year at Miami against the likes of Duke and UNC?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

outside of UT, which team won't regress/struggle?

OSU will be better...ISU will be better (still suck)...

I guess that's my point. OSU won't improve enough to be a title threat. ISU is full of losers. MU has Frank Haith. It looks like the slaves have a clean break at getting away from their master. OU will suck. TT will suck. Baylor will suck.

I think the fact that KSU will regress is canceled out with with how much everyone else will suck.

I know, I was agreeing with you with my small list of two sucky teams
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:36:17 AM
How does playing/recruiting against UNC and Duke every year play into this?

Not at all and he would almost never be recruiting against either one
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:37:50 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
Mellinger:

What I meant by “great timing” is that KSU is likely to struggle next season. Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly are gone, and there isn’t an expected gem in the recruiting class to make up for it.



rough ridin' genius

outside of UT, which team won't regress/struggle?

OSU will be better...ISU will be better (still suck)...

I guess that's my point. OSU won't improve enough to be a title threat. ISU is full of losers. MU has Frank Haith. It looks like the slaves have a clean break at getting away from their master. OU will suck. TT will suck. Baylor will suck.

I think the fact that KSU will regress is canceled out with with how much everyone else will suck.

I know, I was agreeing with you with my small list of two sucky teams

Oh.

OK.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
Anybody know Kelvin Sampson's status with the NCAA?

DO WANT

He has a "Show Cause" label.   He can be hired, but you'd have to do a bunch of hoop jumping to justify why you think he's not going to cheat his ass off again...then the school is super duper extra liable if he does cheat his ass off again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 08:38:39 AM
This is going to keep goEMAW humming for several weeks.  The rich get richer.

I will definitely look Frank up when I am down there for the football game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
Anybody know Kelvin Sampson's status with the NCAA?

DO WANT

I think a call was placed to him, but being Kelvin, he was on the phone racking up minutes and didn't click over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
Sampson and Pearl should be on Currie's speed dial.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

No question he would be able to recruit better in Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 08:42:23 AM
Bet he won't anywhere near the same recruiting budget at Miami...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rcjh88 on April 04, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
He would be able to recruit better in Miami without a doubt.  
Also, oscar Pearl would be an amazing hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 08:47:20 AM
 :love: Pearl and all his sillyness. 


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.fanhouse.com%2Fmedia%2F%2F2008%2F03%2Foscar-pearl-across-leags-425.jpg&hash=c07113d8107a0acb01bfda36acaff0ae5970ff2c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:48:42 AM
Oh, oscar! :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:53:29 AM
Is oscar going to come with any NCAA baggage?  He's not going to get a show cause tag is he?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 04, 2011, 08:53:48 AM
Do want Pearl
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:53:29 AM
Is oscar going to come with any NCAA baggage?  He's not going to get a show cause tag is he?

As soon as we show interest they will put it on him.  Just to F with the Cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 08:55:44 AM
No way that Pearl will be an option.  He's boom roasted by the NCAA.

KS4KSU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 08:42:23 AM
Bet he won't anywhere near the same recruiting budget at Miami...

You're right, but does it cost that much to drive across town?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:57:07 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 08:53:29 AM
Is oscar going to come with any NCAA baggage?  He's not going to get a show cause tag is he?

DO NOT CARE.

I really think if he was going to get a show cause all these dumbasses are convinced he's going to get, he'd have gotten let go midseason.  Either way, go for it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Quote
DevonThe13 Devon Peterson
Miami in may
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Quote
DevonThe13 Devon Peterson
Miami in may

eff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 04, 2011, 09:04:49 AM
Doesn't Pearl have some sort of hearing with the NCAA later this month to find out if he's gonna get the "show cause?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
does anyone else think this could work out where ksu cats are better off by letting frank go and hiring steve henson.  don't even try to keep frank, just release him from his contract and use any money it will take to get henson back home within the ksu cats family.  seems like a perfect fit and i'm just reading between the lines sorry guys but no need to meltdown.  hensies is comin hom.e  yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 04, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
does anyone else think this could work out where ksu cats are better off by letting frank go and hiring steve henson.  don't even try to keep frank, just release him from his contract and use any money it will take to get henson back home within the ksu cats family.  seems like a perfect fit and i'm just reading between the lines sorry guys but no need to meltdown.  hensies is comin hom.e  yes.

ha
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:07:02 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
does anyone else think this could work out where ksu cats are better off by letting frank go and hiring steve henson.  don't even try to keep frank, just release him from his contract and use any money it will take to get henson back home within the ksu cats family.  seems like a perfect fit and i'm just reading between the lines sorry guys but no need to meltdown.  hensies is comin hom.e  yes.

You have to admit, it IS going to be awful hard watching him on the sidelines for OU TWICE next year.  Very painful.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:08:12 AM
nm
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:07:02 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
does anyone else think this could work out where ksu cats are better off by letting frank go and hiring steve henson.  don't even try to keep frank, just release him from his contract and use any money it will take to get henson back home within the ksu cats family.  seems like a perfect fit and i'm just reading between the lines sorry guys but no need to meltdown.  hensies is comin hom.e  yes.

You have to admit, it IS going to be awful hard watching him on the sidelines for OU TWICE next year.  Very painful.

because he's ugly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Mike Alden is playing chess while we play rough ridin' checkers.

Step 1:  Open the Miami Job
Step 2:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 3:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 4:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 5:  Profit.


Prolly has had this planned out since Oregon offered Anderson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
Quote
    @DaveTelep RT @AGoldFan: Miami is one of the WORST jobs in any BCS conference. No fans, no edge at home, marginal coverage and not a lot if $$
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

JESUS rough ridin' CHRIST.  _FAN is like THE most confusing dude to follow on this board.  First, he gives us the typical _FAN cool headed analysis that he thinks there is no way Frank leaves.  Then, he rough ridin' peppers us with tweets that basically say we are ass mumped.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:13:04 AM
I hope we can get a reassuring "Dont Worry" from one of our players
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

JESUS rough ridin' CHRIST.  _FAN is like THE most confusing dude to follow on this board.  First, he gives us the typical _FAN cool headed analysis that he thinks there is no way Frank leaves.  Then, he rough ridin' peppers us with tweets that basically say we are ass mumped.

 :dunno:

pete, your reaction to this whole thing has been frantic and enjoyable. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 04, 2011, 09:15:30 AM
Thoughts on spamming Currie and Schulz's twitter pages with #PayFrankMore?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:15:52 AM
ya this isn't a fashion show so whoever said that steve henson is ugly needs to stick to watching vera wang and realize that steve henson knows more about college hoops in his brain than some of you can get through your thick skulls.


message to pete:  mike alden is a loser ad who only knows how to lose.  look at his track record.  terrible and he's messed up this one too.  who cares because k-state isn't effected only going to get better from all of this.  

when something bad happens it can either kill you or make you stronger, one of those two things only.  if it does not kill you then you get stronger and stronger, day by day by day.  pretty soon you are the big dog from being so strong you eliminate your competition because they are weak.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 04, 2011, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:14:25 AM
Not only does fan support not matter, neither does the U's ability to pay $2 mil. WVU didn't pay Huggs more than we were.

what do you think it would take for Martin+Hill+Figgs?  $1M + $.25M + $.15M  

about $1.5M for the trio?  can Miami afford even that?

or would they leave for lower?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
why wouldn't frank leave?  it wasn't like ksu was setting attenedance records at KSU before Huggins/Martin got here.  As a fan base, we gave a sh*t about basketball just as much as Miami does.

This take is way off.  Huggs didn't have to win anything to fill the seats.  KSU is a bball school, and we were just looking for any excuse to celebrate bball again.
 :bball:

EDIT: Not that any of that matters in the context of this conversation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 04, 2011, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

Are there any national media CBB types that have fewer hoops contacts than Seth Davis? Him saying this actually calms my nerves about the potential of losing Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/bad_career_move/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 04, 2011, 09:17:54 AM
We are so screwed.  If Frank hasn't squashed the rumors by morning then this thing is done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

One thing I've learned over the past month or so about Seth Davis is that really has no clue what he's talking about. He's not connected at all and his in-game analysis is just brutal. He's got a beautiful face for TV, and that's about it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 09:19:20 AM
This all is so beautifully painful.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:19:27 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/bad_career_move/

Quote
The four years in bold for Clemson are the Rick Barnes years, the only time the glass ceiling was broken at Clemson. Barnes shrewdly jumped to Texas in what some viewed as a lateral move in prestige. However the success he has had in Austin would not have been easily duplicated at Clemson.

 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

JESUS effING CHRIST.  _FAN is like THE most confusing dude to follow on this board.  First, he gives us the typical _FAN cool headed analysis that he thinks there is no way Frank leaves.  Then, he effing peppers us with tweets that basically say we are ass effed.

 :dunno:

I like riling up the troops at goEMAW sometimes.

My worry level is less than 10%, FWIW.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Mike Alden is playing chess while we play effing checkers.

Step 1:  Open the Miami Job
Step 2:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 3:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 4:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 5:  Profit.


Prolly has had this planned out since Oregon offered Anderson.

You're not giving them enough credit.  Here's how it really went:

Step 1:  Create instability in the Big 12 by talking of move to Big 10, thereby creating uncertainty for KU and KSU and their future.
Step 2:  Nebraksa moves to Big 10, leaving MU as Big 12 "north" football power.
Step 3:  Open the Miami Job
Step 4:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 5:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 6:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 7:  Profit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:20:57 AM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
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SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

One thing I've learned over the past month or so about Seth Davis is that really has no clue what he's talking about. He's not connected at all and his in-game analysis is just brutal. He's got a beautiful face for TV, and that's about it.

I agree that Davis is just throwing the natural connection out there, he has no real information.

But the past month has shown us that it really all depends on the agent and how he plays the media/twitter world. If Katz wants this to become a game, it will become a game, and we'll start getting all kinds of weird stuff out of local guys AND Miami people, probably starting today.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
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SethDavisHoops Seth davis
Can't imagine it will take more than a few days for Miami to hire Frank Martin. Since he's from there the job has obvious appeal to him.

JESUS effING CHRIST.  _FAN is like THE most confusing dude to follow on this board.  First, he gives us the typical _FAN cool headed analysis that he thinks there is no way Frank leaves.  Then, he effing peppers us with tweets that basically say we are ass effed.

 :dunno:

I like riling up the troops at goEMAW sometimes.

My worry level is less than 10%, FWIW.


I'm in _FAN's camp.  Sorta feels like nobody on here is really that worried, we're just all so intent on finding something relevant to bbs about that we're trying really hard to fake it.  Kinda sad.  :dunno:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
mellinger, like Davis, just throws stuff at the wall, hoping some will stick. He really knows nothing either.  He acts like its a new revelation that the DC Assault connection has dried up.

http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/franks-haith-and-martin-stress-missouri-and-k-state-and-its-all-related/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hemmy on April 04, 2011, 09:26:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f66b0VIGA1w
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
This is the opportunity of a lifetime for Frank. Part of me just wants him to be happy. Would he be happier in Miami?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 09:27:33 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
mellinger, like Davis, just throws stuff at the wall, hoping some will stick. He really knows nothing either.  He acts like its a new revelation that the DC Assault connection has dried up.

http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/franks-haith-and-martin-stress-missouri-and-k-state-and-its-all-related/

He also acts like it's news that CK and Pullen are leaving.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 04, 2011, 09:27:47 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Mike Alden is playing chess while we play effing checkers.

Step 1:  Open the Miami Job
Step 2:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 3:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 4:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 5:  Profit.


Prolly has had this planned out since Oregon offered Anderson.

You're not giving them enough credit.  Here's how it really went:

Step 1:  Create instability in the Big 12 by talking of move to Big 10, thereby creating uncertainty for KU and KSU and their future.
Step 2:  Nebraksa moves to Big 10, leaving MU as Big 12 "north" football power.
Step 3:  Open the Miami Job
Step 4:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 5:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 6:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 6: Take over 4th or 5th spot in the big 12-2
Step 7:  Profit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:28:16 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
If Katz wants this to become a game, it will become a game, and we'll start getting all kinds of weird stuff out of local guys AND Miami people, probably starting today.

I think I am going to write my dissertation on how these things go down.  I enjoy the eff out of them.  fwiw, it is a very good sign for those who want Frank to stay at KSU if it starts getting weird like that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 09:28:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:30:30 AM
FWIW, Frank's current buyout is $1 mil.

This needs to be discussed more.

Miami is struggling to find money to pay football coaches, has no AD, and they need to find $1 million for a buyout?

Where?  Do they have about ten condos on retainer somewhere that they can liquidate?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: _33 on April 04, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
This is the opportunity of a lifetime for Frank. Part of me just wants him to be happy. Would he be happier in Miami?

his mom, shakey, art, the ocean/beach, seafood cuisine..

yeah. gonna say he'd be pretty happy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 09:29:58 AM
How is it that Miami is so poor?  Always seemed like there was a lot of cash in that town?  A great way to launder drug money would be donations to a college.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
the shakey/art talking point is stupid imo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
I just want to say that if Frank goes to Miami he may make the NCAA tourney regularly, but he's not going to win any ACC titles . . . at least in the Big 12 there's pretty much only one school to beat.   As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will male genitals punch Frank more times than not.  

So as it's been said, this is really all about where Frank would rather live and work, and if you were a major college basketball coach of Cuban heritage and you had significant ties to a burgeoning Latino/Hispanic American population of high school b-ball talent in Florida.   Where would you rather be?  Miami or Manhattan, KS?





Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
imagine having the 2 Live Crew as your celeb fans instead of kelly clarkson, showing up to games and midnight madness and stuff.  lockerroom apperances.  incredible opportunity that frank is staring at right now.  how can he not take it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
DeCoursey just said Miami can't/won't pay for FM.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
DeCoursey just said Miami can't/won't pay for FM.

how the f would he know?

don't do this to yourself, limestone.  just accept it and enjoy the bbs'ing.  We now have something to talk about until December that's not football related.   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
DeCoursey just said Miami can't/won't pay for FM.

decoursey is kind of an idiot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 09:36:22 AM
wish i could just be a shameless emaj.

in a 12 hour span they get a 5 star commit, and watch their two rivals effing implode.

unreal.

'grats beems.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theodore donald on April 04, 2011, 09:40:36 AM
 :cheers:

WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Can't get n2 it on Twitter but Roy unhappy n CHill RT @JayDavis236: Leave Chapel Hill for Manhattan? Why? I thought UNC was Roy's dream job?


WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
If Frank Martin takes Miami job, word I'm hearing is Roy Williams takes over at K-State (6 yrs $120 mil). UNC won't match. Doherty returns
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 09:41:07 AM
lol, whitlock
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: theodore donald on April 04, 2011, 09:40:36 AM
:cheers:

WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Can't get n2 it on Twitter but Roy unhappy n CHill RT @JayDavis236: Leave Chapel Hill for Manhattan? Why? I thought UNC was Roy's dream job?


WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
If Frank Martin takes Miami job, word I'm hearing is Roy Williams takes over at K-State (6 yrs $120 mil). UNC won't match. Doherty returns


Saw that. Tweeted him that this is not a laughing matter!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:43:53 AM
The offer of Ron Prince's old house on Colbert Hill seals the deal . . . Roy to Manhattan.

Roy arrives in Manhattan, reminds everyone that it's not the East Coast and will be hard to recruit to . . . produces mediocre teams, but his short game improves dramatically under the watchful eye of Jim Colbert's grandson.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:44:16 AM
WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Aggieville&OctogonOfDoom RT @ryanwillcott: Roy left KU, a great program & great pay to go home to UNC, why would he come back 2 KU's rival?


reeling 'em in
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 09:45:44 AM
this brad underwood is just the type of young, energetic, offensively minded coach that i think all ksu bball cats fans could really get behind. this program will soar to new heights without negator martin holding them down.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
DeCoursey just said Miami can't/won't pay for FM.

Don't listen to them, Limestone.  This is a legitimate talking point.

People, they hired Al Golden.  The U hired Al Golden because they don't have any money.

In all reality, this is the BEST time this job could come open.  They bought out Randy Shannon (which drained them), they couldn't scrape enough money to hire more than their third or fourth option for a coach, and now they have to try and hire another coach at around $1.3-$1.5 million and come up with money for his assistants?

Frank doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that's going to leave his staff behind without assurance they'll be taken care of, and I highly doubt that Currie would agree to hire Underwood and keep anyone.  

If Frank can't go and take his staff with him, or know they'll be taken care of in Manhattan, he'll stay.  I think we've got the leverage here.  I'm with _FAN.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
Quote
DickieV Dick Vitale
Coaching changes continue - Haith to Mizzou.Let's be honest Miami even with Heat & South Beach not a plum Hoops job! Very little interest!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
Quote
DickieV Dick Vitale
Coaching changes continue - Haith to Mizzou.Let's be honest Miami even with Heat & South Beach not a plum Hoops job! Very little interest!

We need you Dicky V. Now more than ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 04, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Haith is making $1.5mil at Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 09:53:14 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:28:11 AM
I have no idea what is in Frank's head.  But, IF he does want to go home, why is Miami worse than we were when he took over?  You think South Florida kids care if Miami didnt have years of pre segregation basketball glory like we do?

All it takes is for one alum to step up with cash for a practice facility, and Franks cooking down there.   Do Michael Irvine or Portis like hoops?

Frank will not get the benefit of having Michael Beasley on the team his first year at Miami, but other than that, you are right.

It does sound like K-State has more money than Miami (no idea how this is the case). We also have better facilities.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 04, 2011, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 04, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Haith is making $1.5mil at Miami.  :users:
Quit rooting against us damn it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
Miami just built a brand new basketball arena.

It's empty for every game, but it is really nice.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 09:58:08 AM
Miami is a private school with 15K students. This is part of the reason for their athletic money struggles, especially with a president that doesn't seem to make a big deal out of athletics.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dave Wooderson on April 04, 2011, 09:58:40 AM
We all knew this day would come.  Well it's here and we can get it out of the way.  Frank stays this time, he will be here for a long-long-long time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 04, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: FranklyFrankYou on April 04, 2011, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 04, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Haith is making $1.5mil at Miami.  :users:
Quit rooting against us damn it

I am not rooting against you.  Just rooting for the drama.  It takes my mind off gagging away NCs in hoops and our God awful football program starting again with the ORIGINAL overpaid reach hire.

--

I was just filling DeCorsey in....he didn't believe Frank Haith was making 1.5/year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:59:44 AM
imagine if you will a sold out arena.  no lights are on, the place is pitch black.   smoke machines fill the air with smoke coming from a  tunnel that leads out of the hurricane lockerroom.  luther campbell's voice comes over the arena sound system "ladies and gentleman of miami hurricane fandom, please join me in welcoming the U's new head basketball coach, frank marty martin!" as frank emerges through the smoke from the locker room wearing a brand new green suit and orange tie, and orange alligator cowboy boots (a tribute to his former school, kansas state).  the crowd roars, the dunk line is in full swing, and 2 live crew breaks into the chorus of Me Soo Horny.  the blue devils, visitors on this night from Duke, realize that their days at the top of the ACC pack are over with.

after the game, a 100-74 hurricane win, frank sits with art, a few 5 star highschool recruits, and lebron james sipping cognac and ripping g-cush in biscayne bay on lebron's yacht until 7am the next morning.  life's good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 04, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Haith is making $1.5mil at Miami.

Anyone know what Haith's buyout was if Miami were to fire him?  Wondering if Miami couldn't afford to fire him (being on the hot seat for the past couple of years), and so instead Haith did Miami a great favor by taking another position.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
the shakey/art talking point is stupid imo

I think that is just a place holder for "South Florida AAU types" being easier to recruit from if you are actually in South Florida.  


By the way, did you know Trick Daddy is a Miami rapper.  What ever happened to him.  I'd liked that "Take it to the house" song a whole bunch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chunkles on April 04, 2011, 10:01:31 AM
just to be sure, there is no homeboner out-clause, right?  like Huggy and WV?  fool us once and stuff? help
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dub on April 04, 2011, 10:02:34 AM
We can talk about many reasons why he won't go, but it's home.  People do crazy things to go home.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
imagine having the 2 Live Crew as your celeb fans instead of kelly clarkson, showing up to games and midnight madness and stuff.  lockerroom apperances.  incredible opportunity that frank is staring at right now.  how can he not take it?

Luther has been banned from the U.  More like Gloria Estefan would be showing up, but still amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from:  BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 04, 2011, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from:  BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

my god, he's just getting warmed up for 2:00
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 10:04:46 AM
luther's ban from the U expired, he's very connected to the U.  the temp AD reinstated him to the U's HoF.  nice try though.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
Miami just built a brand new basketball arena.

It's empty for every game, but it is really nice.



It only seats around 8K. They averaged 4763 this season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:06:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Mike Alden is playing chess while we play rough ridin' checkers.

Step 1:  Open the Miami Job
Step 2:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 3:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 4:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 5:  Profit.


Prolly has had this planned out since Oregon offered Anderson.

Way too much credit being given here to a uni that starts with Brad Stevens, hops to Painter, limps to New Mexico, then drags their beaten asses to Miami.

The above scenario is slightly less likely than EMAWgeddon's(SP):
1. Pony
2. ?
3. Profit



Also, I am with _FAN on the 10% worry thing.

Lastly:  LOL at MU.  losers.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
Miami just built a brand new basketball arena.

It's empty for every game, but it is really nice.



It only seats around 8K. They averaged 4763 this season.

 :barf:

Won't take much for Frank to fill those seats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 10:04:46 AM
luther's ban from the U expired, he's very connected to the U.  the temp AD reinstated him to the U's HoF.  nice try though.  

luther would most def return calls and texts from curtis malone lackeys that are looking to get paid for steering recruits their way. contrast that with some ksu backer that i know and it's instant advantage to the hurricanes of miami. no brainer for frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 10:10:07 AM
I think Frank might hold out for the UCF job so his kids can get season passes to Disney World.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 04, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
Quote
@SaveUMFootballUM Basketball Coaching Update: UM is already in talks with several candidates. One is originally from Miami. Time will tell.

Quote
@SaveUMFootball Yes, Frank Martin is a candidate. Yes, he has been contacted. Who knows what will happen. It's been less than 24 hours. There are more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:06:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Mike Alden is playing chess while we play effing checkers.

Step 1:  Open the Miami Job
Step 2:  Get a decent coach with a super low buyout
Step 3:  Watch KSU crumble when Frank leaves
Step 4:  RE-take over spot as "second in the north"
Step 5:  Profit.


Prolly has had this planned out since Oregon offered Anderson.

Way too much credit being given here to a uni that starts with Brad Stevens, hops to Painter, limps to New Mexico, then drags their beaten asses to Miami.

The above scenario is slightly less likely than EMAWgeddon's(SP):
1. Pony
2. ?
3. Profit



Also, I am with _FAN on the 10% worry thing.

Lastly:  LOL at MU.  losers.  

It all started the year KU won the Orange Bowl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
Frank had a base salary of $1.2 million for this year, it goes to $1.3 million next year, and then add another $100K a year all the way up to $1.6 million.

If he leaves K-State this year, he owes K-State $1 million.  

He got nearly $500K in the form of a signing bonus last year.  

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:15:59 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
Frank had a base salary of $1.2 million for this year, it goes to $1.3 million next year, and then add another $100K a year all the way up to $1.6 million.

If he leaves K-State this year, he owes K-State $1 million.  

He got nearly $500K in the form of a signing bonus last year.  



So he can split the buy out with The U.  Great.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:17:20 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
Miami just built a brand new basketball arena.

It's empty for every game, but it is really nice.



It only seats around 8K. They averaged 4763 this season.

 :barf:

Won't take much for Frank to fill those seats.

Miami hasn't averaged over 5K in attendance in any single season in the last 10 years.  Their best single season attendance in their heyday under Hamilton was less than 6K average.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
Frank had a base salary of $1.2 million for this year, it goes to $1.3 million next year, and then add another $100K a year all the way up to $1.6 million.

If he leaves K-State this year, he owes K-State $1 million.  

He got nearly $500K in the form of a signing bonus last year.  



You gotta sell a lot of copies of "As Nasty as They Wanna Be" to afford that jack.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  

If we hire Pearl before the show cause hearing, would we still have to show cause for hiring him? How does the "Show Cause" thing work? Would we lose a scholarship for a few years or something? If that's all that happens, Pearl is definitely worth it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 04, 2011, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from:  BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.


Well KK being the genius he is, just repeated something he heard from some 3rd grade Quatz fans, and trys to make it sound newsworthy.

But it will suck in a lot of GPtard for 2 PM
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:20:25 AM
Frank will get paid somewhere between $96-$150K in bonuses for this last year, it depends on how the APR score looks.

If my calculations are right he received in excess of $150K in performance bonuses last year.   So all in all, K-State has paid Frank nearly $3 million dollars in the last 2 years.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  

If we hire Pearl before the show cause hearing, would we still have to show cause for hiring him? How does the "Show Cause" thing work? Would we lose a scholarship for a few years or something? If that's all that happens, Pearl is definitely worth it.

If we hire him and he gets show caused, my understanding is that we will either have to start the hoop jumping to show why we think he would behave at KSU or oscar would have to be let go and a new search started.  

I have also heard that if we do jump hoops and get him able to coach, that they may invoke some sort of penalty on our team('ship limits, etc) or something like that.  This was just during some discussion I over heard on one of the radio stations a few weeks ago.  Not sure if this is accurate or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jarvis_Cat on April 04, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
That 500k signing bonus....Doesn't he have to pay some of that back if he doesn't stay for all the years of the contract? I thought I remember that being part of the deal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yat on April 04, 2011, 10:22:20 AM
I mean, JFC

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/2010/08/lebron-james-plays-pickup-ball-with-university-of-miami/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: Jarvis_Cat on April 04, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
That 500k signing bonus....Doesn't he have to pay some of that back if he doesn't stay for all the years of the contract? I thought I remember that being part of the deal.

As I read it the date of payback passed in Oct. 2010.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:24:13 AM
Haith is to MU as Chizik is to Auburn?

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 10:25:43 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:24:13 AM
Haith is to MU as Chizik is to Auburn?

 :horrorsurprise:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
Gloria Estefan, daughter of Cuban immigrants, graduated from college in 1979 with a B.A. in psychology, with a minor in French, from the University of Miami.  The family lives in the Star Island section of Miami Beach, Florida


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JFC, she's proud of her school...
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jarvis_Cat on April 04, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
That 500k signing bonus....Doesn't he have to pay some of that back if he doesn't stay for all the years of the contract? I thought I remember that being part of the deal.

No, that's all his now. He would've only lost part of that if he had left after last season.

http://www.wibw.com/sports/headlines/86755362.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
DeCoursey just said Miami can't/won't pay for FM.

Don't listen to them, Limestone.  This is a legitimate talking point.

People, they hired Al Golden.  The U hired Al Golden because they don't have any money.

In all reality, this is the BEST time this job could come open.  They bought out Randy Shannon (which drained them), they couldn't scrape enough money to hire more than their third or fourth option for a coach, and now they have to try and hire another coach at around $1.3-$1.5 million and come up with money for his assistants?

Frank doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that's going to leave his staff behind without assurance they'll be taken care of, and I highly doubt that Currie would agree to hire Underwood and keep anyone.  

If Frank can't go and take his staff with him, or know they'll be taken care of in Manhattan, he'll stay.  I think we've got the leverage here.  I'm with _FAN.


I agree with your stance, but regarding the Al Golden hire, do you know what he is getting paid there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:27:14 AM
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The Duane Johnson Practice Facility.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:20:25 AM
Frank will get paid somewhere between $96-$150K in bonuses for this last year, it depends on how the APR score looks.

If my calculations are right he received in excess of $150K in performance bonuses last year.   So all in all, K-State has paid Frank nearly $3 million dollars in the last 2 years.



so haith made 3.0 during his last two years at miami and frank made less than that over the last two years, but somehow miami can't pay frank enough to get him. is that what we're saying?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
if frank only made 1.1M, Miami could offer 1.3M/yr for 5 years and with the 200K saved/budgeted from Haith's contract (he made 1.5) pay the 1M buyout.  Not that hard to finance.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:28:12 AM
Frank will get a $250K retention bonus in April of 2012, he we get a $500K retention bonus in May of 2014.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Guess who has an open invitation to take oscar out on Tuttle in his new Stingray?

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Guess who has an open invitation to take oscar out on Tuttle in his new Stingray?

 :gocho:

JFC, at least go to Milford.  Not even Pearl is dirty enough to jump in that mud hole.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:20:25 AM
Frank will get paid somewhere between $96-$150K in bonuses for this last year, it depends on how the APR score looks.

If my calculations are right he received in excess of $150K in performance bonuses last year.   So all in all, K-State has paid Frank nearly $3 million dollars in the last 2 years.



so haith made 3.0 during his last two years at miami and frank made less than that over the last two years, but somehow miami can't pay frank enough to get him. is that what we're saying?

I am just posting contract information, make of it what you will.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:27:14 AM
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The Duane Johnson Practice Facility.

What do you want to bet that Frank will simply refer to the practice facility as "The Rock."  JFC, that will be nails.  

"You have to bust your ass on the Rock if you want playing time."  

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
I just want to say that if Frank goes to Miami he may make the NCAA tourney regularly, but he's not going to win any ACC titles . . . at least in the Big 12 there's pretty much only one school to beat.   As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.  

So as it's been said, this is really all about where Frank would rather live and work, and if you were a major college basketball coach of Cuban heritage and you had significant ties to a burgeoning Latino/Hispanic American population of high school b-ball talent in Florida.   Where would you rather be?  Miami or Manhattan, KS?

The "winning in the ACC is too hard" talking point is 'tarded.  Coach K and Roy are each like 80 and Roy had a crap season last year.  Frank will be very successful
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  

If we hire Pearl before the show cause hearing, would we still have to show cause for hiring him? How does the "Show Cause" thing work? Would we lose a scholarship for a few years or something? If that's all that happens, Pearl is definitely worth it.

If we hire him and he gets show caused, my understanding is that we will either have to start the hoop jumping to show why we think he would behave at KSU or oscar would have to be let go and a new search started.  

I have also heard that if we do jump hoops and get him able to coach, that they may invoke some sort of penalty on our team('ship limits, etc) or something like that.  This was just during some discussion I over heard on one of the radio stations a few weeks ago.  Not sure if this is accurate or not.
that girl has some epic tits
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 10:32:34 AM
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"Hey Guys, I can get angry looking too!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
....Pictures of Greenawalt posing with the Rock.   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 10:33:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 10:27:14 AM
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The Duane Johnson Practice Facility.

What do you want to bet that Frank will simply refer to the practice facility as "The Rock."  JFC, that will be nails.  

"You have to bust your ass on the Rock if you want playing time."  



That really would be awesome. Sounds badass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
Cartierfor 3 . . .

Read this again:

As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
I just want to say that if Frank goes to Miami he may make the NCAA tourney regularly, but he's not going to win any ACC titles . . . at least in the Big 12 there's pretty much only one school to beat.   As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.  

So as it's been said, this is really all about where Frank would rather live and work, and if you were a major college basketball coach of Cuban heritage and you had significant ties to a burgeoning Latino/Hispanic American population of high school b-ball talent in Florida.   Where would you rather be?  Miami or Manhattan, KS?

The "winning in the ACC is too hard" talking point is 'tarded.  Coach K and Roy are each like 80 and Roy had a crap season last year.  Frank will be very successful
crap season playing in the conference title game?  try new talking points from people who watched the acc all year and who aren't KU fans.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 10:34:37 AM
Man, in retrospect, I'm really glad I started this thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:35:52 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
Cartierfor 3 . . .

Read this again:

As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.


Didn't make sense to me either
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 10:36:28 AM
roy had a crap season by winning the regular season ACC champy.  k.

fwiw, i just don't see roy taking over after frank leaves, i just don't see it.  maybe since anything is possible but who knows, not this ksu cats, .
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 10:36:28 AM
roy had a crap season by winning the regular season ACC champy.  k.

fwiw, i just don't see roy taking over after frank leaves, i just don't see it.  maybe since anything is possible but who knows, not this ksu cats, .

I think he meant the year before. Also,


greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
I truly feel bad for Frank Haith. He doesn't deserve today's scorn. Mike Alden deserves every bit of it


BITB
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
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Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  

If we hire Pearl before the show cause hearing, would we still have to show cause for hiring him? How does the "Show Cause" thing work? Would we lose a scholarship for a few years or something? If that's all that happens, Pearl is definitely worth it.

If we hire him and he gets show caused, my understanding is that we will either have to start the hoop jumping to show why we think he would behave at KSU or oscar would have to be let go and a new search started.  

I have also heard that if we do jump hoops and get him able to coach, that they may invoke some sort of penalty on our team('ship limits, etc) or something like that.  This was just during some discussion I over heard on one of the radio stations a few weeks ago.  Not sure if this is accurate or not.
that girl has some epic tits

Yeah, oscar will not come.  He is too used to outlandishly nice things.  We cannot compare.  I have never seen a pic of oscar where at min 98% of the people in the pic with him aren't amazing looking.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 10:36:28 AM
roy had a crap season by winning the regular season ACC champy.  k.

fwiw, i just don't see roy taking over after frank leaves, i just don't see it.  maybe since anything is possible but who knows, not this ksu cats, .

He has to at least consider it. He could put the state of Kansas at center court only with the star on Manhattan. Could be appealing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
I just want to say that if Frank goes to Miami he may make the NCAA tourney regularly, but he's not going to win any ACC titles . . . at least in the Big 12 there's pretty much only one school to beat.   As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.  

So as it's been said, this is really all about where Frank would rather live and work, and if you were a major college basketball coach of Cuban heritage and you had significant ties to a burgeoning Latino/Hispanic American population of high school b-ball talent in Florida.   Where would you rather be?  Miami or Manhattan, KS?

The "winning in the ACC is too hard" talking point is 'tarded.  Coach K and Roy are each like 80 and Roy had a cac season last year.  Frank will be very successful
cac season playing in the conference title game?  try new talking points from people who watched the acc all year and who aren't KU fans.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/153/year/2010/north-carolina-tar-heels (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/153/year/2010/north-carolina-tar-heels)

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:40:42 AM
It's easy . . . Frank grinder ball using Frank's kind of recruits does not translate into many wins against Roy Williams and Coach K type teams.   Yes, they'll be the occasional upset, but more times than not Frank will get thrashed by those guys.

If Frank wants to make 3rd place in the ACC his goal in life and regular NCAA tourney appearances than Miami is where he should go . . . and if several other ACC fanbases would just accept that, they'd be better off for it as well.





Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
I just want to say that if Frank goes to Miami he may make the NCAA tourney regularly, but he's not going to win any ACC titles . . . at least in the Big 12 there's pretty much only one school to beat.   As long as Roy and K are in their respective jobs their teams will crock punch Frank more times than not.  

So as it's been said, this is really all about where Frank would rather live and work, and if you were a major college basketball coach of Cuban heritage and you had significant ties to a burgeoning Latino/Hispanic American population of high school b-ball talent in Florida.   Where would you rather be?  Miami or Manhattan, KS?

The "winning in the ACC is too hard" talking point is 'tarded.  Coach K and Roy are each like 80 and Roy had a cac season last year.  Frank will be very successful
cac season playing in the conference title game?  try new talking points from people who watched the acc all year and who aren't KU fans.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/153/year/2010/north-carolina-tar-heels (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/153/year/2010/north-carolina-tar-heels)

 :users:

They followed it up with winning the ACC regular season title and going to the Elite 8.  Don't be dumb.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 09:27:14 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.topnews456.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2Foscar-Pearl.jpg&hash=069344318fa390235684e8f6760a189e391ce93c)

Show Cause hearing is in June, per MU coaching discussion last week on 810.  They said that the timing of the hearing sucks because he will be too late to get on somewhere for next season.  So, hire pearl now would be a huge gamble, because we may be doing the whole thing again in June.

Of course, if he doesn't get the Show cause, we would get him cheaper than VCU is paying Shaka.  

If we hire Pearl before the show cause hearing, would we still have to show cause for hiring him? How does the "Show Cause" thing work? Would we lose a scholarship for a few years or something? If that's all that happens, Pearl is definitely worth it.

If we hire him and he gets show caused, my understanding is that we will either have to start the hoop jumping to show why we think he would behave at KSU or oscar would have to be let go and a new search started.  

I have also heard that if we do jump hoops and get him able to coach, that they may invoke some sort of penalty on our team('ship limits, etc) or something like that.  This was just during some discussion I over heard on one of the radio stations a few weeks ago.  Not sure if this is accurate or not.
that girl has some epic tits

Yeah, oscar will not come.  He is too used to outlandishly nice things.  We cannot compare.  I have never seen a pic of oscar where at min 98% of the people in the pic with him aren't amazing looking.

Amazing looking people follow oscar. He doesn't have to follow them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 04, 2011, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

bp?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

How does said poster know
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:48:36 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

 :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:49:09 AM
lots of good stuff in this thread. A little dumbassery mixed in. Pretty good goEMAW.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

How does said poster know

Frank and BP are buddies.  Have been for a long time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 10:51:23 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:49:09 AM
lots of good stuff in this thread. A little dumbassery mixed in. Pretty good goEMAW.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_cc3c0c30-5ecf-11e0-9c5c-001a4bcf6878.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 10:54:57 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_cc3c0c30-5ecf-11e0-9c5c-001a4bcf6878.html
:lol:

What a clusterfuck.  This is fantastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 04, 2011, 10:54:57 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_cc3c0c30-5ecf-11e0-9c5c-001a4bcf6878.html
:lol:

What a clusterfuck.  This is fantastic.

What does this mean though? Is there a chance he will stay at miami if these dudes don't approve? Would Miami take him back!?!?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 10:58:42 AM
It's a Board Member(s) just looking to CYA . . . I had a lot of questions about this hire, but the AD answered those questions to my/our satisfaction at the time.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 10:59:54 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F0.tqn.com%2Fd%2Fcollegebasketball%2F1%2F0%2F0%2F2%2F-%2F-%2Fkelvin-sampson-Elsa.jpg&hash=15a1f26aa2bc91adbbbf0e72049c781e551fdd72)

I LOVE MANHATTAN!  COME ON!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 04, 2011, 10:54:57 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/tiger-tracker/article_cc3c0c30-5ecf-11e0-9c5c-001a4bcf6878.html
:lol:

What a clusterfuck.  This is fantastic.

What does this mean though? Is there a chance he will stay at miami if these dudes don't approve? Would Miami take him back!?!?
Don't know whether he could/would stay at Miami at this point, but if the board doesn't approve him he's sure as hell not going to MU and I can't imagine how Alden saves his own ass if this the board doesn't approve the hire. 

Don't really care whether Miami opens up or not though.  I'm bored with the Frank to Miami bbs'ing. It's not gonna happen.  Just loving the MU implosion.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 04, 2011, 11:01:18 AM
OH YE OF LITTLE HAITH
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
goEMAW friend Greg Doyel coming up on this http://www.kfns.com/Other/streamtheworld.html to discuss MU hire I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

Did that post get deleted? Does'nt seem to be there anymore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 04, 2011, 11:06:04 AM
:runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
@kyleseiwert That's more like it. K State is def a better job, but Miami is home for Frank and he has had his eye on other jobs. Wait n see.

eye on other jobs huh. Just like every other coach out there. jfc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
@kyleseiwert That's more like it. K State is def a better job, but Miami is home for Frank and he has had his eye on other jobs. Wait n see.

eye on other jobs huh. Just like every other coach out there. jfc.

Concept of keeping options open doesn't fly with that Seth Davis guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

Did that post get deleted? Does'nt seem to be there anymore.


no

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=143672091&mid=143672091&sid=889&style=2 (http://no

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=143672091&mid=143672091&sid=889&style=2)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
Nick Russell:  "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!"

Me:  Are you trying to hint that you're all following Frank to Miami?

Nick: (no answer yet). 

 :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 04, 2011, 11:10:10 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
Nick Russell:  "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!"

Me:  Are you trying to hint that you're all following Frank to Miami?

Nick: (no answer yet). 

 :runaway: :runaway:
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:10:54 AM
BITB weighs in:

Quote from: BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:10:54 AM
BITB weighs in:

Quote from: BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

welcome to about 7 pages ago kougz  :excited:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:12:32 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Quote
SethDavisHoops Seth davis
@kyleseiwert That's more like it. K State is def a better job, but Miami is home for Frank and he has had his eye on other jobs. Wait n see.

eye on other jobs huh. Just like every other coach out there. jfc.

Dude, it's Seth.  He's horrible.  Just let him be horrible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 04, 2011, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quote
NO

 :emawkid:

:surprised:

From the best poster at GP, FWIW.

Did that post get deleted? Does'nt seem to be there anymore.


no

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=143672091&mid=143672091&sid=889&style=2 (http://no

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=143672091&mid=143672091&sid=889&style=2)
Got it. thanks
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

Doyel says he's texting Shaka as he's on this St loius station. lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 11:15:45 AM
The addition of twitter has made this much more volatile than the Huggins meltdown.

Who is our foremost expert and interpreting tweets?  I want them monitoring players/media/player's family/recruits tweets around the clock.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 04, 2011, 11:17:01 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:17:30 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 11:15:45 AM
The addition of twitter has made this much more volatile than the Huggins meltdown.

Who is our foremost expert and interpreting tweets?  I want them monitoring players/media/player's family/recruits tweets around the clock.

This is where CNS Casey steps off the end of the bench, takes off his warm ups, and gets to do his best impersonation of Ollie from Hoosiers in the Regional final game.

Just put two in the hoop, Casey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Why not get paid about a million a year and coach in the Valley while being treated like a God?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Why not get paid about a million a year and coach in the Valley while being treated like a God?

Yeah, 810 said that Shaka is getting $300K right now. 

He needs to jump now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:10:54 AM
BITB weighs in:

Quote from: BITB
First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

welcome to about 7 pages ago kougz  :excited:

Thanks! In related news...


Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 09:27:33 AM
CK and Pullen are leaving.

WHAT?!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
Guys, I used to have a Miami hat.  

Also, if Frank can coach for another 30 years, this will work perfectly with the retirement plan my wife and I have.  Winters with Frank.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.

You don't even hear Few's name tossed around for openings anymore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.

You don't even hear Few's name tossed around for openings anymore.

Diff is that Few and Stevens will win next year, while Shaka..... :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
good move by smart.  ncsu is a crap job.  vcu will pay 1 million.  his value won't go down from where it is now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
his value won't go down from where it is now.

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
his value won't go down from where it is now.

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

Yeah. Buy low, sell high. In this case his stock is pretty high....may as well cash in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
I would think that if Shaka doesn't win next year, or the year after, it will be very easy to write him off as his team catching fire from 3 for a few games in a row during the time in NCAA ball that happened to see the least impressive upper echelon teams since the beginning of the tournament.   :dunno:

That said, I understand that there will always be an AD willing to take a flier on a guy who has coached a FF game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
good move by smart.  ncsu is a crap job.  vcu will pay 1 million.  his value won't go down from where it is now.

NCSU is only a crap job from a fan expectation perspective.   If NCSU fans ever join the real world and just demand NCAA tourney appearances, 1 out of every 4 or 5 against Duke and UNC, and the occasional deep NCAA tourney run, it's like I said in another post earlier, they'd do themselves a great service.    It's almost like they don't get that the NCAA tourney takes 64 teams now, and that you don't have to win the ACC tournament to make the NCAA tourney.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Why not get paid about a million a year and coach in the Valley while being treated like a God?

Yeah, 810 said that Shaka is getting $300K right now. 

He needs to jump now.

Okay, at the very least, the dude needs to go to UNLV or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
his value won't go down from where it is now.

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

Agree with this part, but NCSU is a guarantee that you'll fail.   Most of the jobs right now suck, makes sense to sit tight a year and hope for better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

job security.  its fun being the big fish in a tiny little pond
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
his value won't go down from where it is now.

Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

Yeah. Buy low, sell high. In this case his stock is pretty high....may as well cash in.

rough ridin' fundamentals investor.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 04, 2011, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 11:15:45 AM
The addition of twitter has made this much more volatile than the Huggins meltdown.

Who is our foremost expert and interpreting tweets?  I want them monitoring players/media/player's family/recruits tweets around the clock.

I always thought SD was the tweet expert after reading the "Enjoy the band" thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:36:50 AM
Quote
DickieV Dick Vitale
by herdezjoe
Coaching changes continue - Haith to Mizzou.Let's be honest Miami even with Heat & South Beach not a plum Hoops job! Very little interest!

An hour old, but didn't see it in the thread.

Also, it is Vitale....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.

What's VCU's record under Smart?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
NCSU is only a crap job from a fan expectation perspective.   If NCSU fans ever join the real world and just demand NCAA tourney appearances, 1 out of every 4 or 5 against Duke and UNC, and the occasional deep NCAA tourney run, it's like I said in another post earlier, they'd do themselves a great service.    It's almost like they don't get that the NCAA tourney takes 64 teams now, and that you don't have to win the ACC tournament to make the NCAA tourney.

yes, absolutely.  well, plus yow, but that's temporary.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

Maybe it is "study table" time?  They have a pretty regimented schedule.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

At Hale?  Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

Or it's academic counseling showing them what the large building in the middle of campus is.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Grats Frank, you earned it.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dub on April 04, 2011, 11:43:40 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

Or it's academic counseling showing them what the large building in the middle of campus is.


They are all in there quite often actually
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 04, 2011, 11:43:58 AM
omar kelley from the south florida sun sentinel was just on st. lou sports radio and didn't even mention frank when discussing who the U should go after.  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: PandaXpanda on April 04, 2011, 11:43:58 AM
omar kelley from the south florida sun sentinel was just on st. lou sports radio and didn't even mention frank when discussing who the U should go after.  :ck:

Who did he mention?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 04, 2011, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: PandaXpanda on April 04, 2011, 11:43:58 AM
omar kelley from the south florida sun sentinel was just on st. lou sports radio and didn't even mention frank when discussing who the U should go after.  :ck:

Who did he mention?

said they should go back after leo hamilton. then said they want to keep a clean image but said that oscar should be considered. so basically he's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.

A guy who takes VCU to the Final Four is a hot candidate. WGAF what announcers say.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 04, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: LHarKSUCat on April 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

The Annc is that LHC Bill Snyder has died of Oldballznesia and will coach from Cryostasis.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 11:28:23 AM
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.

Uhm, Shaka Smart has a National Championship. Just like Deb Patterson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.

Quote
TheBigLead Jason Mcintyre
From the agent of a college hoops coach: It's not NC State, it's Yow. "Nobody wants to work for her."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2011, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.

She must think she is Joe Castiglione
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
A women AD  :lol:

Does she want the right to vote too?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.

I'm not sure the percentages are any worse than those for coaches who come from BCS programs, keeping in mind that the jobs these people take over are usually middle-of-the-road BCS teams at best.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 12:01:06 PM
Haith has been/was far from a horrible recruiter at Miami: http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/miami-fl/recruiting
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 12:03:30 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

This is a great alternative discussion.  810 said that they have a pretty good class coming in next year.  They didn't elaborate and I haven't checked.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.

I'm not sure the percentages are any worse than those for coaches who come from BCS programs, keeping in mind that the jobs these people take over are usually middle-of-the-road BCS teams at best.

I think the minimum requirement you have to ask is, "Did every school they coach at get better?"  Self's teams performed everywhere he went.  Calipari's teams performed well everywhere he went (save the NBA).  Even Greg Marshall has won everywhere he's gone.  There's a track record of, "No matter where I go, I win," which gives you confidence that they'll do the same at your school.

Guys that have only done it at one mid-major seem risky to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 12:06:15 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
What's VCU's record under Smart?

apparently, it's 55-21.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
Miami should hire that guy who runs CLA.  Would love to see him in a D1 job. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 12:07:28 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

Rivals shows one guy.  #112.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Bishop-Daniels-81323;_ylt=AhgXlxOF3oASlPnULTDi6lLasJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Bishop-Daniels-81323;_ylt=AhgXlxOF3oASlPnULTDi6lLasJB4)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Shaka Smart has agreed to a deal to remain at VCU, sources told FOXSports.com.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 12:07:28 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

Rivals shows one guy.  #112.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Bishop-Daniels-81323;_ylt=AhgXlxOF3oASlPnULTDi6lLasJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Bishop-Daniels-81323;_ylt=AhgXlxOF3oASlPnULTDi6lLasJB4)

Shooting guard, ok, we'll take him.  Great job Frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
couple  :star: :star: :star: :star: guys in the '12 class but the '11 looks like just one three star kid
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bruce on April 04, 2011, 12:23:10 PM
Would take Ken Pomeroy* over these last few losers mentioned. His meteorologist salary should be easy to beat.

* The Mike Leach of Basketball
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
kstate_pres Kirk H. Schulz
I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


 :flush:

Here we go again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 12:31:26 PM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
kstate_pres Kirk H. Schulz
I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


 :flush:

Here we go again

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 04, 2011, 12:38:24 PM
schulz is bitb at reelin' us in.

only possible explanation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 12:41:36 PM
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-04/shaka-smart-turns-down-nc-state (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-04/shaka-smart-turns-down-nc-state)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
kstate_pres Kirk H. Schulz
I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


 :flush:

Here we go again

I'd be more comfy if he were also going to see the source code.  Things go well when Kirk eats italian based foods and watched gyllenhaal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 04, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 12:41:36 PM
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-04/shaka-smart-turns-down-nc-state (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-04/shaka-smart-turns-down-nc-state)

Quote from: the article
VCU athletic director Norwood Teague confirmed to Sporting News that Smart had been offered the N.C. State job but declined to stay with the Rams.

that parses very strangely in my brain.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
Shaka "Not Very" Smart

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 12:48:33 PM
I think UPKS deserves the benefit of the doubt here, so I am going with UPKS being BITB at making it look like there's absolutely nothing to see . . . nothing.   Until further notice.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 04, 2011, 12:49:47 PM
 :popcorn:

wonder what happened to those
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 04, 2011, 12:49:54 PM
Why hasn't our kick ass airport been brought up?  What kind of airport could Miami possibly have?  :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)

Btw, flight tracker anyone?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bigwillie20 on April 04, 2011, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: I_have_purplewood on April 04, 2011, 12:49:54 PM

Btw, flight tracker anyone?

Nothing to see so far  :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: I_have_purplewood on April 04, 2011, 12:49:54 PM
Why hasn't our kick ass airport been brought up?  What kind of airport could Miami possibly have?  :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)

Btw, flight tracker anyone?

Is Frank in Houston?  That would be a lot of tracking to do.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 12:48:33 PM
I think UPKS deserves the benefit of the doubt here, so I am going with UPKS being BITB at making it look like there's absolutely nothing to see . . . nothing.   Until further notice.



I'll be honest, Dax.  Your faith in Schulz gives me pause.  Not that I don't love him (I do), I'm just surprised to see the leash you've given him.  Very confidence inspiring.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
 :zzz:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:56:36 PM
You're such an incredible dumbass, book.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: I_have_purplewood on April 04, 2011, 12:49:54 PM
Why hasn't our kick ass airport been brought up?  What kind of airport could Miami possibly have?  :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)

Btw, flight tracker anyone?

Is Frank in Houston?  That would be a lot of tracking to do.

Only be concerned if they meet in Tulsa.  That's apparently where deals get done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I enjoyed this thread when non EMAWtards didn't post in it, now not only are the usual idiots posting and have taken over the thread but it appears that 99% of the smart people have lost their damn minds as well.  This thread has added a page every 30 minutes mostly of people saying the same crap over and over.  I guess Chingon's kitn post meant nothing to you people.

Non EMAWtard mods please remove the 10+ pages of the same posts and give them their own thread so we can continue with the intended purpose of this thread.

tia
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
this whole "coaching staying put at mid-majors as of late" is a good thing for cats fans worried about martin leaving. trending towards him staying put, no?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
this whole "coaching staying put at mid-majors as of late" is a good thing for cats fans worried about martin leaving.

apples/oranges
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 04, 2011, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
this whole "coaching staying put at mid-majors as of late" is a good thing for cats fans worried about martin leaving. trending towards him staying put, no?

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
I hear there is a heated discussion going on at everymanawildcat.com.  I better go check it out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 01:04:40 PM
I can only remember one of your posts. You asked if everyone remembered some posts you had made earlier or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
Quote
Pittsburgh assistant Pat Skerry has been hired as the new coach at Towson University, multiple sources tell ESPN.com's Andy Katz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 01:15:35 PM
Always thought it would be weird for 'Te to take a pay cut when taking the Towson job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 01:17:27 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 01:15:35 PM
Always thought it would be weird for 'Te to take a pay cut when taking the Towson job.

A 50k on to be a head coach, I think he would. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I enjoyed this thread when non EMAWtards didn't post in it, now not only are the usual idiots posting and have taken over the thread but it appears that 99% of the smart people have lost their damn minds as well.  This thread has added a page every 30 minutes mostly of people saying the same crap over and over.  I guess Chingon's kitn post meant nothing to you people.

kansans are the least confident people in the world.  they're also pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 01:26:42 PM
Quote
Jake Ellis
FYI Anya Martin (Frank's wife) is from New York. As a #kstate fan, I'm more worried about a NY school than Miami.

I lol'ed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I enjoyed this thread when non EMAWtards didn't post in it, now not only are the usual idiots posting and have taken over the thread but it appears that 99% of the smart people have lost their damn minds as well.  This thread has added a page every 30 minutes mostly of people saying the same cac over and over.  I guess Chingon's kitn post meant nothing to you people.

Non EMAWtard mods please remove the 10+ pages of the same posts and give them their own thread so we can continue with the intended purpose of this thread.

tia

I think everyone wanted a good meltdown even though this probably isn't really meltdown worthy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I enjoyed this thread when non EMAWtards didn't post in it, now not only are the usual idiots posting and have taken over the thread but it appears that 99% of the smart people have lost their damn minds as well.  This thread has added a page every 30 minutes mostly of people saying the same cac over and over.  I guess Chingon's kitn post meant nothing to you people.

Non EMAWtard mods please remove the 10+ pages of the same posts and give them their own thread so we can continue with the intended purpose of this thread.

tia

this is not a bad idea, but it is a lot of and the ends simply do not justify the means for me from an analytical output vs. reward standpoint. maybe a less busy mod will take this on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
starting to feel better about the whole, miami can't pay frank angle.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 04, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
starting to feel better about the whole, miami can't pay frank angle.

Starting to feel worse about people feeling better.   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 04, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
starting to feel better about the whole, miami can't pay frank angle.

Betting we catch wind of a planned extension within 72 hours.

On a side note, I'm guessing the Miami search actually takes awhile since they have no AD in place.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 01:44:41 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 04, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
starting to feel better about the whole, miami can't pay frank angle.

Starting to feel worse about people feeling better.   :ohno:

Setting ourselves up  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 04, 2011, 01:50:29 PM
Late to the party. Feel like I missed the whole meltdown. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on April 04, 2011, 01:51:19 PM
So I've skipped the last 6 pages.  Has anyone brought up this business about Mizzou's "curators" (wtf?) vetoing the Haith hire?  Mizzou academic/athletic deptartment experts, what is a curator, and if they do turn down the Haith hiring, does this mean we're safe?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on April 04, 2011, 01:51:19 PM
So I've skipped the last 6 pages.  Has anyone brought up this business about Mizzou's "curators" (wtf?) vetoing the Haith hire?  Mizzou academic/athletic deptartment experts, what is a curator, and if they do turn down the Haith hiring, does this mean we're safe?

Miami hasn't released Haith yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on April 04, 2011, 01:51:19 PM
So I've skipped the last 6 pages.  Has anyone brought up this business about Mizzou's "curators" (wtf?) vetoing the Haith hire?  Mizzou academic/athletic deptartment experts, what is a curator, and if they do turn down the Haith hiring, does this mean we're safe?

I don't see anyway they can actually do that.  I mean are they going to turn everyone down until Alden reels in Coach K?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
Similar to the BOR.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
Just to put it on the record now.  I've always been concerned about a Frank to UConn scenario.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
Just to put it on the record now.  I've always been concerned about a Frank to UConn scenario.

Me too.  We should immediately up the contract to 1.7 with a higher buyout just for this.   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 01:55:57 PM
The KBOR can veto a coach's salary but the money could still be raised from a private source.  Not many states are interested in hiring a state employee making 1.5 mil right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
I don't see anyway they can actually do that.  I mean are they going to turn everyone down until Alden reels in Coach K?

it would be close to the same thing as firing alden.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 01:58:57 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 12:48:33 PM
I think UPKS deserves the benefit of the doubt here, so I am going with UPKS being BITB at making it look like there's absolutely nothing to see . . . nothing.   Until further notice.



Yep.  

UPKS:  What?  The Miami job opened up?  Anyway, have you been to The Chef lately? Delicious strudels, probably the best i've ever had, and believe me I know my strudels."  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on April 04, 2011, 01:51:19 PM
So I've skipped the last 6 pages.  Has anyone brought up this business about Mizzou's "curators" (wtf?) vetoing the Haith hire?  Mizzou academic/athletic deptartment experts, what is a curator, and if they do turn down the Haith hiring, does this mean we're safe?

I don't see anyway they can actually do that.  I mean are they going to turn everyone down until Alden reels in Coach K?

I think they've probably gotten some immediate backlash from some donors who aren't totally down with this hire and have decided to take some sort of public stance of due diligence.

He'll get hired by Mizzou if that's what they really want (and I can't believe this is the road they've chosen to go down).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 04, 2011, 02:00:51 PM
Basically CliffsNotes of this thread from Meek:

http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-04/decision
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kaiser Soze on April 04, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
Just to put it on the record now.  I've always been concerned about a Frank to UConn scenario.

Just read the Meek blog, huh?  'grats!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Someone send this to Frank. Everyone in Miami hates him. EVERYONE!

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Someone send this to Frank. Everyone in Miami hates him. EVERYONE!

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php)

Quote
It looks like the early front-runner is none other than Kansas State coach and one-time Miami cheater Frank Martin.

SEE FRANK SEE!

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
That whole "article" was redic.   :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
Smellinger stole that from Petro's show. What an ass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 02:09:24 PM
the newtimes has to be praying for this harder than they ever prayed for anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2011, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I enjoyed this thread when non EMAWtards didn't post in it, now not only are the usual idiots posting and have taken over the thread but it appears that 99% of the smart people have lost their damn minds as well.  This thread has added a page every 30 minutes mostly of people saying the same crap over and over.  I guess Chingon's kitn post meant nothing to you people.

Non EMAWtard mods please remove the 10+ pages of the same posts and give them their own thread so we can continue with the intended purpose of this thread.

tia

No more tunnel dances, man. We'll instead get little snippets on the kstate website about the team doing some tractor pull in Garden City for charity. The Briggs logo will be put at center court.

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 02:14:35 PM
 :love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbkr01UdLIM

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 04, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 02:09:24 PM
the newtimes has to be praying for this harder than they ever prayed for anything.

If he bolts, getting to read the newtimes will be a silver lining for me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



now i'm more confused than ever
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



now i'm more confused than ever

Me too. Capel keeps coming up.

Quote
LandThieves
Jeff Capel may be a candidate for the Miami job.. Welcome back to the ACC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



That list is awful.  Worse than what we'd put together.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



now i'm more confused than ever

Why?  That would be about the equivalent of going with Al Golden.

The odds of them going after an established NCAA coach right now are probably pretty small.  They have to get an AD and football up and running.  Saving money on a basketball program no one cares about is probably a good idea at this point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on April 04, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
CONFIDENCE RISING
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



That list is awful.  Worse than what we'd put together.


Hopefully people start figuring out the quality of the Miami job. Frank would be an absolute grand slam for them, even with the "going home" connection. It would be similar to if Self had went to Oklahoma State. Really.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Someone send this to Frank. Everyone in Miami hates him. EVERYONE!

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_to_miami_rumors_a.php)

Quote
But Miami will likely have to match the $1.2 million yearly salary the 2010 conference coach of the year currently gets at K-State. With Martin's shady record, it ain't worth it.

That article is great. A press conference wouldn't go by without a high school question being brought up. I'm guessing they would change his name to Frank "One-time Miami Cheater" Martin in every article.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 02:37:01 PM
miami should hire todd bozeman
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 04, 2011, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 12:56:36 PM
You're such an incredible dumbass, book.

and,
it must really sicken you to hear Frank pour the praise on Underwood for revamping the offense and single handedly saving the season. Said so himself. Pretty good for a scrub coach that contributes nothing. Right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 02:38:34 PM
Quote

I'll be honest, Dax.  Your faith in Schulz gives me pause.  Not that I don't love him (I do), I'm just surprised to see the leash you've given him.  Very confidence inspiring.

Well Pan, here is what I know about UPKS:

1.  He's every bit as in to athletics as his predecessor.

2.  From what I hear he wanted/wants the BTF worse than Jon Currie, and is quietly paying a pivitol role in making the BSFS improvements happend.  He wants those projects done badly.  

3.  He knows he's the President and that he's NOT the athletic director, nor is he the "team owner", he hired an athletic director to take care of that stuff . . . I think you understand what I'm saying.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
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Missouri's expected hiring of University of Miami basketball coach Frank Haith has sent shock waves through the Kansas State fan base with concerns that the Miami job may be attractive to K-State coach Frank Martin. The obvious question is simple: Is it?

The quick answer is no, with a source close to the situation pointing out that Martin, despite being a native of Miami, has "no connection" to the University of Miami. It's more complex than that, however.

News of Haith's expected hiring by Missouri began to leak out of the basketball coaching community Sunday afternoon, the source said, and a potential deal was agreed upon by Haith and Missouri director of athletics Mike Alden on Sunday night. The University of Missouri Board of Curators is scheduled to meet Monday night and will likely approve the contract at that time.

If Haith does leave Miami, it will open up an ACC job in Martin's hometown, where he gained coaching experience at three high schools prior to launching his college coaching career as an assistant at Northeastern.

As of early Monday afternoon, the source said no one from the University of Miami had contacted Martin about the possible opening, but the source expected Martin, who just completed his fourth year in Manhattan, to at least listen to what the school would have to say. Not only does Martin's mother live in Miami, but the 45-year-old coach has a 12-year-old son, Brandon, who resides in Miami.

"They haven't talked, but it would be hard (for Martin) not to listen. They (Miami) would have to commit to doing things the right way," the source said.

There's the catch. Miami is considered the weakest of the ACC basketball jobs, and the Hurricanes averaged only 4,500 fans for home games this season. The source indicated that the school would have to make a serious financial commitment to basketball that far exceeds the coach's pay.

Just the salary, however, appears to be an issue for Miami. Haith was in his seventh season there, and his salary of $600,000 was a little more than half the $1.1 million Martin made at K-State this season. Martin and K-State athletics director John Currie agreed upon a new five-year contract near the end of the 2009-10 season that with incentives would average out to $1.5 million a season over the life of the contract.

Miami is not the only major college job currently open. UNLV is seeking a replacement for Lon Kruger, who was just hired by Oklahoma, but the source said Martin has no interest in that position.

A greater concern is the opening at North Carolina State. According to media reports, VCU coach Shaka Smart turned down overtures from N.C. State and the source said that there is talk in the coaching community that some prominent Wolfpack donors want the school to pursue Martin. It is believed the ACC school could pay a salary approaching $3 million a year to the right candidate.

Forgot about his son in Miami. Dammit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
We should be proactive about this, and fire Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
Yeah, Frank having a son that lives in Miami is pretty huge (unless the kid is a little shithead)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
Yeah, Frank having a son that lives in Miami is pretty huge (unless the kid is a little shithead)
assuming the son lives with his mom, who Frank and/or Anya might dislike?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 02:51:20 PM
i can't imagine that Anya dislikes anyone.  She's a rough ridin' saint.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
A tidbit of info on Miami's potential support of a winner.  

In Leonard Hamilton's last year at Miami (they won the Big East that year by the way), Attendance for their final two home games was 6100, and 7500.  That was when they were playing at the 15000 seat Miami Arena.  Three years later they built the BankUnited Center a facility with a maximum capacity of 8000.  Miami doesn't even support their football teams.

2000     58,430
2001     46,162
2002     69,539
2003     58,135
2004     59,134
2005     45,310
2006     41,908
2007     43,589
2008     46,191*



A university located within the nation's 7th largest metro area whose basketball attendance even in there greatest season falls way below average.  

Miami doesn't have fans, and the ones they do have don't go to games.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
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Missouri's expected hiring of University of Miami basketball coach Frank Haith has sent shock waves through the Kansas State fan base with concerns that the Miami job may be attractive to K-State coach Frank Martin. The obvious question is simple: Is it?

The quick answer is no, with a source close to the situation pointing out that Martin, despite being a native of Miami, has "no connection" to the University of Miami. It's more complex than that, however.

News of Haith's expected hiring by Missouri began to leak out of the basketball coaching community Sunday afternoon, the source said, and a potential deal was agreed upon by Haith and Missouri director of athletics Mike Alden on Sunday night. The University of Missouri Board of Curators is scheduled to meet Monday night and will likely approve the contract at that time.

If Haith does leave Miami, it will open up an ACC job in Martin's hometown, where he gained coaching experience at three high schools prior to launching his college coaching career as an assistant at Northeastern.

As of early Monday afternoon, the source said no one from the University of Miami had contacted Martin about the possible opening, but the source expected Martin, who just completed his fourth year in Manhattan, to at least listen to what the school would have to say. Not only does Martin's mother live in Miami, but the 45-year-old coach has a 12-year-old son, Brandon, who resides in Miami.

"They haven't talked, but it would be hard (for Martin) not to listen. They (Miami) would have to commit to doing things the right way," the source said.

There's the catch. Miami is considered the weakest of the ACC basketball jobs, and the Hurricanes averaged only 4,500 fans for home games this season. The source indicated that the school would have to make a serious financial commitment to basketball that far exceeds the coach's pay.

Just the salary, however, appears to be an issue for Miami. Haith was in his seventh season there, and his salary of $600,000 was a little more than half the $1.1 million Martin made at K-State this season. Martin and K-State athletics director John Currie agreed upon a new five-year contract near the end of the 2009-10 season that with incentives would average out to $1.5 million a season over the life of the contract.

Miami is not the only major college job currently open. UNLV is seeking a replacement for Lon Kruger, who was just hired by Oklahoma, but the source said Martin has no interest in that position.

A greater concern is the opening at North Carolina State. According to media reports, VCU coach Shaka Smart turned down overtures from N.C. State and the source said that there is talk in the coaching community that some prominent Wolfpack donors want the school to pursue Martin. It is believed the ACC school could pay a salary approaching $3 million a year to the right candidate.

Forgot about his son in Miami. Dammit.

Dear Frank,

No hard feelings.

-CF3

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spaces on April 04, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 02:51:20 PM
i can't imagine that Anya dislikes anyone.  She's a effing saint.
Doesn't wanna be too close to family   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 04, 2011, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
We should be proactive about this, and fire Frank.

Haha, this guy!  I LOL'ed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slucat on April 04, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 04, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
Yeah, Frank having a son that lives in Miami is pretty huge (unless the kid is a little cachead)
assuming the son lives with his mom, who Frank and/or Anya might dislike?

Franks son (who looks just like CK when CK got to manhattan) is often at games.  one would think frank makes enough coin to see his kid pretty regularly without having to be in the same metro area.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
How the eff is NCSU going to pay a coach 3 mil?  How many coaches in the country make that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
How the eff is NCSU going to pay a coach 3 mil?  How many coaches in the country make that?

That's what I was thinking. If they can really pay that much, why were they even looking at Shaka Smart, let alone making him their first choice?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 04, 2011, 03:02:31 PM
The $3M has been the rumored offer for Rick Barnes - apparently, Rick grew up a Pack fan.

The Barnes nonsense has been floating around before they hired Lowe 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
How the eff is NCSU going to pay a coach 3 mil?  How many coaches in the country make that?

They can because they have a lot of money.   The Wolfpack Club, which is a seperate financial entity from the athletic department, but exists only to support the athletic department has a lot of jack.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: oodfan on April 04, 2011, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
How the eff is NCSU going to pay a coach 3 mil?  How many coaches in the country make that?

So if Smart said "no,"  maybe this is the next option?
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Last Minute! WSU Coaches' Show w/ Gregg Marshall will happen tonight at AJ's Sport Grill on N Rock. Special announcement to be made ...

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on April 04, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 04, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
Just to put it on the record now.  I've always been concerned about a Frank to UConn scenario.

Just read the Meek blog, huh?  'grats!

lol.  no reason to expect you to believe me, but i've been talking about that since calhoun looked like he wouldn't live to 2011.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
I don't doubt that NCSU could scratch up that kind of dough but I can't imagine them bringing in a coach worth that type of money.  Sure they have rich ass boosters but that doesn't mean those guys are going to give a Shaka Smart 3 per.   Hell, paying Frank 3 per would be stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
I don't doubt that NCSU could scratch up that kind of dough but I can't imagine them bringing in a coach worth that type of money.  Sure they have rich ass boosters but that doesn't mean those guys are going to give a Shaka Smart 3 per.   Hell, paying Frank 3 per would be stupid.

They're desperate now . . . but giving Frank $3 million would be dumb as hell.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:27:53 PM
They're desperate now . . . but giving Frank $3 million would be dumb as hell.

the free market seems to be pretty unanimous in its decision that dealing with yow is worth about an extra million/year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 04, 2011, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
I don't doubt that NCSU could scratch up that kind of dough but I can't imagine them bringing in a coach worth that type of money.  Sure they have rich ass boosters but that doesn't mean those guys are going to give a Shaka Smart 3 per.   Hell, paying Frank 3 per would be stupid.

They're desperate now . . . but giving Frank $3 million would be dumb as hell.



It all depends on what the alternative is.  How much MU pay Anderson so they don't end up with Haith? (assuming they could out bid Ark)

How much would you pay Frank to avoid HC Underwood?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
sgorten: Hernandez says money won't be an issue with hiring of new hoops coach

No idea who that is, but a Miami fan posted it on another site.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
sgorten: Hernandez says money won't be an issue with hiring of new hoops coach

No idea who that is, but a Miami fan posted it on another site.

that could mean a lot of things
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 03:50:34 PM
SPORTSbyBROOKS
Gregg Marshall latest to turn down NC State. (Save the "offer" semantics.)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
sgorten: Hernandez says money won't be an issue with hiring of new hoops coach

No idea who that is, but a Miami fan posted it on another site.

Yeah, could mean that no one that will be willing to come there will be able to demand a salary that they can't reach.  See Capel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 03:51:03 PM
The issue is how shitty their program is
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 03:50:34 PM
SPORTSbyBROOKS
Gregg Marshall latest to turn down NC State. (Save the "offer" semantics.)


 :surprised:

Over/under on how long this will go on before they lynch the AD?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 03:51:03 PM
The issue is how shitty their program is

The thing is, you actually have to make a lot of dumb moves and not be really smart to have a shitty program at NC State, at minimum an NC State should be an NCAA tourney obvious choice every year.   But they can't seem to get out of their own way.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 03:51:03 PM
The issue is how shitty their program is

The thing is, you actually have to make a lot of dumb moves and not be really smart to have a shitty program at NC State, at minimum an NC State should be an NCAA tourney obvious choice every year.   But they can't seem to get out of their own way.




I was talking about Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2011, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 03:50:34 PM
SPORTSbyBROOKS
Gregg Marshall latest to turn down NC State. (Save the "offer" semantics.)


marshall obviously gambling a bit that frank will go to miami and he will get the ksucats offer. riverboat gambler gregg marshall. wow!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Frank is probably just giddy with anticipation for that phone to ring and hear South Beach on the other line.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slucat on April 04, 2011, 04:19:09 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

YET?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

What a non-news news story.

Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?

Could be standard coach speak, or... without an AD... he might not have heard anything. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Haith is going to fail hard. 

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COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Two Missouri starters have declared for the NBA draft on the same day the school is expected to approve a contract to hire Miami's Frank Haith as its new men's basketball coach.

Juniors Kim English and Laurence Bowers announced Monday that they plan to pursue pro careers but have not hired agents. That means they can return to school if their NBA plans don't work out.

The announcement comes as Missouri curators prepare to meet Monday night in a closed meeting. A person with knowledge of the negotiations told The Associated Press late Sunday that Haith is headed to Columbia after seven seasons in south Florida.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Haith is going to fail hard. 

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COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Two Missouri starters have declared for the NBA draft on the same day the school is expected to approve a contract to hire Miami's Frank Haith as its new men's basketball coach.

Juniors Kim English and Laurence Bowers announced Monday that they plan to pursue pro careers but have not hired agents. That means they can return to school if their NBA plans don't work out.

The announcement comes as Missouri curators prepare to meet Monday night in a closed meeting. A person with knowledge of the negotiations told The Associated Press late Sunday that Haith is headed to Columbia after seven seasons in south Florida.

they'll be back.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



now i'm more confused than ever

no offense but this confuses you because you seem to be quite dumb about this.  The Miami job sucks any of those guys on those lists would be good hires for Miami.  DePaul is a better job.  Frank Martin is the only proven top tier coach that they would have a shot at even considering, and obviously that consideration has nothing to do with basketball.  Basketball wise Miami has no positive advantage over any other BCS school, none.  It's an absolute basketball wasteland.

Same reason why people dismissing Frank Haith because of his record are equally dumb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 04:53:08 PM
Great, now the PTI guys are talking about Calipari's possible return to the NBA.  Wonderful, let's just muddy the crap out of the water.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

 :opcat:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 04:53:08 PM
Great, now the PTI guys are talking about Calipari's possible return to the NBA.  Wonderful, let's just muddy the crap out of the water.

If he does go that likely means Kentucky will be on probation next year, and per usual, Cal beats the boys from Indy out of town by a hair.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 04, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?


For me it's the word "yet".  Makes me think he's expecting/wanting to get contacted.   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2011, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 04:53:08 PM
Great, now the PTI guys are talking about Calipari's possible return to the NBA.  Wonderful, let's just muddy the cac out of the water.

If he does go that likely means Kentucky will be on probation next year, and per usual, Cal beats the boys from Indy out of town by a hair.



Like Self at IL.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

 :opcat:

that emoticon gets used way more times than necessary.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 05:07:49 PM
Marshall agreed to an extension.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

 :opcat:

that emoticon gets used way more times than necessary.
:opcat:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 04, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 04, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Jon Rothstein
Hearing that Alabama coach Anthony Grant would be popular choice at Miami but school isn't likely to exceed his current salary in SEC-conf.

Quote
Jon Rothstein
Sources say possible candidates for Miami include Jeff Capel, FAU's Mike Jarvis, UCF's Donnie Jones, Bobby Gonzalez, + FIU's Isiah Thomas



now i'm more confused than ever

no offense but this confuses you because you seem to be quite dumb about this.  The Miami job sucks any of those guys on those lists would be good hires for Miami.  DePaul is a better job.  Frank Martin is the only proven top tier coach that they would have a shot at even considering, and obviously that consideration has nothing to do with basketball.  Basketball wise Miami has no positive advantage over any other BCS school, none.  It's an absolute basketball wasteland.

Same reason why people dismissing Frank Haith because of his record are equally dumb.

I'm aware bro.  What was confusing was that Frank wasn't on the list, but thanks for explaining what has already been posted 35 times.  And no offense  taken.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 04, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
Quote
AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?


For me it's the word "yet".  Makes me think he's expecting/wanting to get contacted.   :ohno:

Prob via his agent, but not direct contact yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 04, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 04, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
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AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?


For me it's the word "yet".  Makes me think he's expecting/wanting to get contacted.   :ohno:

He's smart enough to expect at least contact.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on April 04, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Sunvold said on BITB that yesterday afternoon someone from Franks camp contacted him about what was going on with Mizzou. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
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 :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: kstater on April 04, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Sunvold said on BITB that yesterday afternoon someone from Franks camp contacted him about what was going on with Mizzou. 

Uh Oh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: kstater on April 04, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Sunvold said on BITB that yesterday afternoon someone from Franks camp contacted him about what was going on with Mizzou. 

Uh Oh.

Dude.  Stop freaking out.  Everything will be okay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 04, 2011, 05:39:32 PM
Time to move on to someone with pipelines that aren't completely dried up. It was fun, fellas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: oodfan on April 04, 2011, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: kstater on April 04, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Sunvold said on BITB that yesterday afternoon someone from Franks camp contacted him about what was going on with Mizzou. 

Uh Oh.

Dude.  Stop freaking out.  Everything will be okay.

Seriously, Frank Haith's camp NOT Frank Martin's camp.  Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
Same reason why people dismissing Frank Haith because of his record are equally dumb.

hamilton did significantly better when the job was even worse.  that's not to say haith has no shot to succeed at mu, but i certainly don't think he gives mu their best chance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

basketball players are primarily interested in basketball.  he might get a few that didn't want to live in kansas.  he'd lose others that would want more tv, more coverage.

who has he not been able to recruit to kstate that you think he could have gotten at miami?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
http://www.loosecannonsshow.com/pages/video/?uri=channels/441823/1262734
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 06:23:37 PM
boynton?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 04, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

We all thought accepted the notion that Huggins would be able to recruit much better at WVU. Get the east coast kids and all that. His recruiting hasn't been any better than Frank's. I've decided that location is meaningless when it comes to recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 04, 2011, 06:31:21 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
http://www.loosecannonsshow.com/pages/video/?uri=channels/441823/1262734

He never said he wasn't interested in the Miami opening.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcatnation7 on April 04, 2011, 06:54:58 PM
 Alright so, I hear Miami's coach is going Mizzou, so they need a coach.. And you know Frank has coached in Miami before and would love to coach there.. What do you think the possibility that Frank leaves?? I'm saying a 3% chance. Your thoughts??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on April 04, 2011, 06:56:40 PM
 :opcat:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 04, 2011, 06:57:16 PM
Sock
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CatMission on April 04, 2011, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 04, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

We all thought accepted the notion that Huggins would be able to recruit much better at WVU. Get the east coast kids and all that. His recruiting hasn't been any better than Frank's. I've decided that location is meaningless when it comes to recruiting.

Amen!  Recruiting is about how your program is perceived.  Very few schools have gotten the positive publicity that K-State has over the past couple of years.  The fact is you can convince an 18-year-old kid to go just about anywhere you want. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be rough ridin' serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 07:06:57 PM
If it's so easy to recruit to Miami, why do they suck so bad?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
LOLtastic!   :lol:

http://www.kansan.com/news/2011/apr/04/morning-brew-coaches/ (http://www.kansan.com/news/2011/apr/04/morning-brew-coaches/)

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Second, Shaka Smart leaves Virginia Commenwealth and replaces Frank Martin at KSU. There is nothing I would like more than to see the Jayhawks get the chance to avenge their Elite Eight loss to Smart by getting two cracks at him next year. This is also unlikely to happen because a) as of my writing this, Frank Martin is still at K-State, and b) Smart is staying at VCU after signing an eight-year extension with a hefty pay raise Monday. But it would keep the fiery rivalry going, and the online message boards would be filled with banter from both fan bases in anticipation for Self-Smart round two.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 07:18:35 PM
Didn't realize Smart's contract was for 8 yrs.  Good for him, dude got one hell of a raise AND a long contract.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Smart kicked the crap out of Self pretty easily...not sure it's much of a rivalry.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 07:38:02 PM
Self's gonna have to start beating those mid-majors for it to be considered a rivalry.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 04, 2011, 07:40:38 PM
Great question.  Please start a thread listing who you think might get a shot at the KSU job should Frank leave.  tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: PowercatPat on April 04, 2011, 06:57:16 PM
Sock

This
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2011, 04:11:12 PM
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AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

 :opcat:

that emoticon gets used way more times than necessary.

That's what's funny about it, stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:00:05 PM
And yeah, once the practice facility is done, Miami's facilities won't even be in the same stratosphere as K-State's. Like seriously, it's pretty shitty down there. Even their campus is kind of gross. So yeah, I doubt Frank would be able to recruit much better down there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:00:05 PM
And yeah, once the practice facility is done, Miami's facilities won't even be in the same stratosphere as K-State's. Like seriously, it's pretty cacty down there. Even their campus is kind of gross. So yeah, I doubt Frank would be able to recruit much better down there.


Didn't you see the stuff about the "Rock Facility?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:00:05 PM
And yeah, once the practice facility is done, Miami's facilities won't even be in the same stratosphere as K-State's. Like seriously, it's pretty cacty down there. Even their campus is kind of gross. So yeah, I doubt Frank would be able to recruit much better down there.


Didn't you see the stuff about the "Rock Facility?"

uh, no. wut's up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: CatMission on April 04, 2011, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 04, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

We all thought accepted the notion that Huggins would be able to recruit much better at WVU. Get the east coast kids and all that. His recruiting hasn't been any better than Frank's. I've decided that location is meaningless when it comes to recruiting.

Amen!  Recruiting is about how your program is perceived.  Very few schools have gotten the positive publicity that K-State has over the past couple of years.  The fact is you can convince an 18-year-old kid to go just about anywhere you want.  

I don't think recruiting was a the major problem for Haith.

In his time at Miami, he brought in 8 Top 100 HS players and 5 more that were borderline Top 100. Five were Top 75 and 2 Top 35. Those players came from Florida (5), Georgia (2), North Carolina (2), Ohio, Texas, New York, and Michigan.

When I look at Haith's teams, their biggest offensive strength consistently was offensive rebounding and in his last 5 years offense was a big strength finishing #50 or better in offensive efficiency. But defensively his teams consistently are average, they don't force turnovers, and they often give up offensive boards. None of his defenses lately have been terrible (>100) in efficiency, but they also aren't great (<50).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be rough ridin' serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

 You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter but in high level recruiting these kids are making basically business decisions that will effect the rest of their lives, so several other factors are going to be a lot more important. I mean, if you just look around at the evidence I think that's pretty rough ridin' evident.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Do you think Frank would recruit at Miami similar to Haith? (though IMHO it is unlikely Frank goes to Miami).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be rough ridin' serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

As evidenced by Pepperdine, Hawaii, and FIU's recruiting success.

Top recruits don't care about basketball, the program, or the coach and his ability to get them to the NBA.  All that matters is the weather, beach proximity, and the likelihood of seeing the tit of a girl lathered up in banana boat pop out of her top while she jogs in the sand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be effing serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

 You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Here's my thinking on this....

If you look at how well Frank has done historically recruiting South Florida, and you look at the number of quality players that are coming out of South Florida right now (http://sfhighschoolsports.com/blog/basketball-boys-blogs/south-florida-players-ncaa-tournament)  it defies all logic to suggest that at a BCS school in the most lavish location in South Florida would not be easier to recruit to than KSU.

Now, this argument is also based on the notion that Frank was able to recruit to KSU when we had no facilities, he had no recognizable name (yet), and we had a fine tradition of sucking the sweat off a dead man's balls.

I am of the opinion that given Franks' now "national name," he could get a greater proportion of South Florida targets than he currently gets today at KSU.  I'd liken it to Howard Schnellenberger...before Howard, they were "giving football tickets away at Burger King" at Miami.

Even a decade ago, when Hamilton was winning at Miami, South Florida wasn't as prolific as it is today...it's a "boom" time for the area, is it not?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be effing serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense.  

As evidenced by Pepperdine

Top recruits don't care about basketball, the program, or the coach and his ability to get them to the NBA.  All that matters is the weather, beach proximity, and the likelihood of seeing the tit of a girl lathered up in banana boat pop out of her top while she jogs in the sand.

I was actually going to site Pepperdine as  a reverse proof of my theory.   Asbury did well at Pepperdine.  Moves to KSU, sucks complete cac at recruiting.  How to explain?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2011, 08:24:29 PM
Basic logistics make it easier to recruit to Miami. I just don't think the KSU brand is at a point where that can be overcome.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 04, 2011, 08:25:13 PM
I think location breaks ties, or at the very most can make a program that's barely sub-par to another get the commit from some recruits. It's not a major deciding factor. I do kinda think it's more important for football though. Maybe I'm just tarded tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Toss out the "traditional" powers (...we are not one of those).  Then, look at the locations.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY rough ridin' YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are rough ridin' bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:28:07 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
I was actually going to site Pepperdine as  a reverse proof of my theory.   Asbury did well at Pepperdine.  Moves to KSU, sucks complete cac at recruiting.  How to explain?  :dunno:

I don't think you can compare mid/low majors to high majors. Haith will end up being a great example for this comparison though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:31:14 PM
....also, by "location" I don't mean gorgeous coral gables....I mean "close to loads and loads of super tall and amazing athletic black kids." (NOT RACIST.  Could have said "colored" but kept it classy and said "black.")

You toss out the the "traditional powers" and what is left seems to be location based as much as anything.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Read the post chief. It's a factor but is usually outweighed by bigger ones. Like I said.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
I think location only matters when you are vying for the attention of a local kid who wants to play close to home.  JMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be rough ridin' serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

 You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.
eat a rough ridin' dick, seriously.  I can back up any claim I make with facts and if I eff up I own it.  You cannot say the same, especially you and rusty with the previous crap fest you have causes.   Kindly keep my name out your rough ridin' mouth.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
I was actually going to site Pepperdine as  a reverse proof of my theory.   Asbury did well at Pepperdine.  Moves to KSU, sucks complete cac at recruiting.  How to explain?  :dunno:

hmmmm, good point.  I think he's back at Pepperdine so this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.  I'll save you some time, he still really sucks at recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
I think location only matters when you are vying for the attention of a local kid who wants to play close to home.  JMO.

OK, you loose on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHEN YOU ARE RECRUITING AT KSU.

Let's put it the other way....how many Kansas/Missouri kids who wanted to stay close to home do you think Frank would try for if he was at Miami.  How many South Florida kids would he try for who wanted to stay near home?  Year in and year out, which number is bigger?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY rough ridin' YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are rough ridin' bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
I was actually going to site Pepperdine as  a reverse proof of my theory.   Asbury did well at Pepperdine.  Moves to KSU, sucks complete cac at recruiting.  How to explain?  :dunno:

hmmmm, good point.  I think he's back at Pepperdine so this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.  I'll save you some time, he still really sucks at recruiting.

Incorrect.  He was very handsome back then.  Now he is a wrinkly ball sack with face cancer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
oh and the U is near some pretty shitty neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Do you think Frank would recruit at Miami similar to Haith? (though IMHO it is unlikely Frank goes to Miami).

I think Frank would recruit similar to how Frank does now.  You know that the biggest factor in recruiting is who they play for, this is emphasized for Frank Martin because of how he runs his program.  We haven't lost one single recruit in the Frank Martin era because of our location.  We are the only fan base in America that uses this as a reason/excuse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
I was actually going to site Pepperdine as  a reverse proof of my theory.   Asbury did well at Pepperdine.  Moves to KSU, sucks complete cac at recruiting.  How to explain?  :dunno:

hmmmm, good point.  I think he's back at Pepperdine so this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.  I'll save you some time, he still really sucks at recruiting.

Incorrect.  He was very handsome back then.  Now he is a wrinkly ball sack with face cancer.

But his ball sack gets sweaty in MALIBU  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be effing serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

 You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Here's my thinking on this....

If you look at how well Frank has done historically recruiting South Florida, and you look at the number of quality players that are coming out of South Florida right now (http://sfhighschoolsports.com/blog/basketball-boys-blogs/south-florida-players-ncaa-tournament)  it defies all logic to suggest that at a BCS school in the most lavish location in South Florida would not be easier to recruit to than KSU.

Now, this argument is also based on the notion that Frank was able to recruit to KSU when we had no facilities, he had no recognizable name (yet), and we had a fine tradition of sucking the sweat off a dead man's balls.

I am of the opinion that given Franks' now "national name," he could get a greater proportion of South Florida targets than he currently gets today at KSU.  I'd liken it to Howard Schnellenberger...before Howard, they were "giving football tickets away at Burger King" at Miami.

Even a decade ago, when Hamilton was winning at Miami, South Florida wasn't as prolific as it is today...it's a "boom" time for the area, is it not?



As already pointed out, you are overstating the amount of basketball talent in Florida, it isn't football.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 04, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Just for the record, who here is a giant dumbass and believes that Frank would not be able to recruit better at Miami.  Show of hands please...would like to know who to mock openly to their faces.

:raiseshand:

yeah, agree.  don't see any reason to think he would recruit better.

There's no way it isn't a hell of a lot easier to convince an 18 year-old kid to go to Coral Gables than to Manhattan, KS.  He'll be able to keep kids that he now loses simply due to location and also be able to attract local players that aren't available here.

I'm with chum.  eff Sys and MIR.

You cannot be effing serious and suggest that it's no hard to recruit a south florida kid to KS than to a FL school.  That's stupid.  It makes no sense. 

 You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Here's my thinking on this....

If you look at how well Frank has done historically recruiting South Florida, and you look at the number of quality players that are coming out of South Florida right now (http://sfhighschoolsports.com/blog/basketball-boys-blogs/south-florida-players-ncaa-tournament)  it defies all logic to suggest that at a BCS school in the most lavish location in South Florida would not be easier to recruit to than KSU.

Now, this argument is also based on the notion that Frank was able to recruit to KSU when we had no facilities, he had no recognizable name (yet), and we had a fine tradition of sucking the sweat off a dead man's balls.

I am of the opinion that given Franks' now "national name," he could get a greater proportion of South Florida targets than he currently gets today at KSU.  I'd liken it to Howard Schnellenberger...before Howard, they were "giving football tickets away at Burger King" at Miami.

Even a decade ago, when Hamilton was winning at Miami, South Florida wasn't as prolific as it is today...it's a "boom" time for the area, is it not?



As already pointed out, you are overstating the amount of basketball talent in Florida, it isn't football.

My argument is based on the assumption that it is growing.  Which, if Frank continues to recruit South Florida, should still help us at KSU...that much I agree on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
facilities and reputation >>>>> location
The reason why I note facilities is that it is a tipping point if a lot of other items are equal.   

Miami is a football school and is currently doing what Nebraska did to its athletic department.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:49:39 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

ALSO, in the above post I meant "you" as in the "you understood" sense, and not in the "you" as in you are black sense.  I have no desire to get my face cratered.  Just wanted to make sure we were clear on that.   go cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

lol.  you post on gpc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 08:52:20 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
You're being really irrational and illogical, so before I treat this talking point like it came from ednksu or bookcat, you need to explain where the hell you're going with this point.  Certainly you see the evidence and history isn't on your side, so I gotta know where the hell you're going with this.  

You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

Do you think Frank would recruit at Miami similar to Haith? (though IMHO it is unlikely Frank goes to Miami).

I think Frank would recruit similar to how Frank does now.  You know that the biggest factor in recruiting is who they play for, this is emphasized for Frank Martin because of how he runs his program.  We haven't lost one single recruit in the Frank Martin era because of our location.  We are the only fan base in America that uses this as a reason/excuse.

This is a good point.  Every other fanbase is the complete opposite.  Take for example our sister to the east.  ku fans always talk about Lawrence like it's some paradise on earth.  ku fans actually say things like, "why would a kid want to go to school in the middle of Kansas" when talking about k-state.  They say it straight faced, without even realizing the irony.  I'm fairly certain k-state fans all love manhattan and think its a great college town, but when it comes to recruiting it suddenly turns into some deserted island in the plains.  Really lame excuse without merit.

signed,

K-States dozen or so Rivals 150 recruits since Wooly left
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Toss out the "traditional" powers (...we are not one of those).  Then, look at the locations.

What I'm looking at is what the Florida schools are not getting, I'm not talking about us.  BTW the only "traditional" powers IMO are KU, UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA.  Every other good current program is the beneficiary of recent success, hiring the right guy.  There is literally no reason why any BCS school who wants to commit themselves to it can't become Syracuse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:54:34 PM
I would take being a Syracuse and run.   :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2011, 08:55:15 PM
Mods, please change name of thread to whatever the hell people are bitching about now and someone tell me if Frank is leaving or not. TIA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
You're much smarter than this, I don't think chum is.

lol.  you post on gpc.

I'm  :powerespect: but I kicked your ass all over this thread.  You should stick to the post where you try to bait people, you're much better at that stuff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 04, 2011, 08:57:09 PM
if the recruiting location talking point was valid UCLA, USC, SDSU, CAL and a plethora of other school in So Cal would be dominating every year.   Now UCLA is the only out lying school from that region and that is easily explained by coach, boosters, facilities.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 04, 2011, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Toss out the "traditional" powers (...we are not one of those).  Then, look at the locations.

What I'm looking at is what the Florida schools are not getting, I'm not talking about us.  BTW the only "traditional" powers IMO are KU, UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA.  Every other good current program is the beneficiary of recent success, hiring the right guy.  There is literally no reason why any BCS school who wants to commit themselves to it can't become Syracuse.
I'd throw Indiana in that "traditional powers" group
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Pretty solid bbs'ing going on here all of a sudden.  Let's try to remember we're all on the same team though guys.  MIR has made Chum look pretty bad so far but the :powerespect: haymaker Chum landed clearly buckled MIR's knees.  Keep it going guys, this crap is way more interesting that the actual game being player.  :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gokatgo on April 04, 2011, 09:06:36 PM
eff location, recruiting is all about boosters willing to pony up CASH!

and ho's, that helps too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

How many times that it needs to be said that people in Florida don't care about basketball.  There are fantastic athletes in Florida that don't touch a basketball until they play in college with their homies on the football team.  Yeah there's more athletes in Florida, Florida has more people than KS, OK, MO, NE, and IA combined.  But it has been proven with cold hard facts time after time that they don't produce near the talent that their population dictates that they should.  That link of Floridians in the tournament is pathetic and proved my point.  There are 6 guys over 4 classes (less than 2 a year) that were highly recruited that attended high school in the state of Florida.  That's awful.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

How many times that it needs to be said that people in Florida don't care about basketball.  There are fantastic athletes in Florida that don't touch a basketball until they play in college with their homies on the football team.  Yeah there's more athletes in Florida, Florida has more people than KS, OK, MO, NE, and IA combined.  But it has been proven with cold hard facts time after time that they don't produce near the talent that their population dictates that they should.  That link of Floridians in the tournament is pathetic and proved my point.  There are 6 guys over 4 classes (less than 2 a year) that were highly recruited that attended high school in the state of Florida.  That's awful.

Are there more today than there were 5 years ago?  10 years ago?  I'm led to believe that, like Texas over the last 20 years, that the quality of available players is rising....more and more kids choosing basketball.  No?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

How many times that it needs to be said that people in Florida don't care about basketball.  There are fantastic athletes in Florida that don't touch a basketball until they play in college with their homies on the football team.  Yeah there's more athletes in Florida, Florida has more people than KS, OK, MO, NE, and IA combined.  But it has been proven with cold hard facts time after time that they don't produce near the talent that their population dictates that they should.  That link of Floridians in the tournament is pathetic and proved my point.  There are 6 guys over 4 classes (less than 2 a year) that were highly recruited that attended high school in the state of Florida.  That's awful.

Jason Bennett was a  :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: from Florida. 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Cackle on April 04, 2011, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Toss out the "traditional" powers (...we are not one of those).  Then, look at the locations.

What I'm looking at is what the Florida schools are not getting, I'm not talking about us.  BTW the only "traditional" powers IMO are KU, UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA.  Every other good current program is the beneficiary of recent success, hiring the right guy.  There is literally no reason why any BCS school who wants to commit themselves to it can't become Syracuse.
I'd throw Indiana in that "traditional powers" group

It's my list and I didn't.  They haven't won a national championship in 24 years, recruits are 15-19 years old, in that time frame IU has won one conference title.  They still have good things to offer but Tom Crean can't walk into a living room the way those other guys can.  There are many more schools more relevant to today's recruits.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

How many times that it needs to be said that people in Florida don't care about basketball.  There are fantastic athletes in Florida that don't touch a basketball until they play in college with their homies on the football team.  Yeah there's more athletes in Florida, Florida has more people than KS, OK, MO, NE, and IA combined.  But it has been proven with cold hard facts time after time that they don't produce near the talent that their population dictates that they should.  That link of Floridians in the tournament is pathetic and proved my point.  There are 6 guys over 4 classes (less than 2 a year) that were highly recruited that attended high school in the state of Florida.  That's awful.

Jason Bennett was a  :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: from Florida. 'nuff said.

I talked a TON of crap when we landed him.  a TON.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
You know how many Willie Cauleys' there are in South Florida EVERY effING YEAR?  We get one every 5-10 years in this entire state.  ...and people are effing bitching because we can't get him to "stay home."

Give Frank a crack at 5 of those every single year and see how he does.

Population of the state of Florida 18.8 million
Population of Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 12.4 million

Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Florida 10
Number of top 150 recruits in '11 & '12 class from Kansas, Missouri, & Oklahoma 9

I won't even mention the 15 2011 top 150 recruits from the state of Texas and I won't mention that 1 of that 15 is attending a school in Florida.  I also won't mention that of the Texas top 150 kids actually leaving the state that they are leaving for Manhattan, KS, Morgantown, WV, Blacksburg, VA, Stillwater, OK, Fayetville, AR, and New York, NY.

Probably also a poor time to mention that none of the top 150 recruits in the state of Florida are actually staying there.

So, your case is that South Florida is no better of a recruiting area that Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma.  That's what you are going with?  Look, you know more about this than me, but I don't see loads of black people running around the latter...more the former.  My opinion is that black people are better to recruit to play basketball for you, and pretty effing firm in my conviction on that point.  Pretty effing firm.

How many times that it needs to be said that people in Florida don't care about basketball.  There are fantastic athletes in Florida that don't touch a basketball until they play in college with their homies on the football team.  Yeah there's more athletes in Florida, Florida has more people than KS, OK, MO, NE, and IA combined.  But it has been proven with cold hard facts time after time that they don't produce near the talent that their population dictates that they should.  That link of Floridians in the tournament is pathetic and proved my point.  There are 6 guys over 4 classes (less than 2 a year) that were highly recruited that attended high school in the state of Florida.  That's awful.

Are there more today than there were 5 years ago?  10 years ago?  I'm led to believe that, like Texas over the last 20 years, that the quality of available players is rising....more and more kids choosing basketball.  No?

There's more specialization, and exposure.  College basketball recruiting was still largely regional even 10 years ago.  This helps my argument, larger population bases didn't have to spend a lot of time and money keeping kids near home.  There were schools recruiting nationally but not everyone, now everyone is and more and more kids are being seen.  Khyle Marshall committed to Butler 6 months before they played in the final four last year.  Butler beat Miami for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
no one wants to move to kansas.  the end.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 09:32:43 PM
don't have time to address this in the manner it deserves, cause i don't want to miss the start of the 2nd.  but briefly:

don't think location as in nice place is very important.  do think that location as in close to home is important.
don't think martin/miami is very typical of local/out of area recruiting.  he's getting everyone he wants from his friends now, not sure he's gotten anyone that matters from not his friends.  not sure moving to miami changes that much.
martin has friends in miami, also enemies.  don't think moving back will change that.  if anything, proximity makes the hate stronger.
don't think guys now going to duke, kentucky or florida will suddenly choose miami.

finally, no one underrates kansas & kc area talent like kstate fans do.  this area produces good players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2011, 09:38:47 PM
Location is a moot point. Its all about networking as far as recruiting goes in college bball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:40:22 PM
JACKHARRYKSHB JACK HARRY
Missouri curators okayed Frank Haith. 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. News conference tomorrow at 10 am.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
So who won this and what's the verdict?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
KState fans love to downplay Kansas/KC guys because we seldom land the good ones.  The Rush bros, the kid that played for Stanford, (Willms?) Tyrone Brown, Jamall Walker, Evans, etc, etc.  (I was specifically trying to think of talent that wasn't super fresh in people's mind.  crap- Korleone is another.)  And this is coming from a dude who really didn't follow recruiting on the MO side until like 3 yrs ago, because KSU was never even mentioned in their recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:40:22 PM
JACKHARRYKSHB JACK HARRY
Missouri curators okayed Frank Haith. 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. News conference tomorrow at 10 am.


JFC, $1.5M per?? This stiff was making $600K at Miami and was going to get run.  WTF is MU thinking?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
So who won this and what's the verdict?

Butt Hurt University comes out on top
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Yet another N.C State candidate off board. RT @tsnmike: Cincinnati's Mick Cronin remains w/ Bearcats, receives extension aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketbal…


NC State's AD woman must be a real bitch
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
KState fans love to downplay Kansas/KC guys because we seldom land the good ones.  The Rush bros, the kid that played for Stanford, (Willms?) Tyrone Brown, Jamall Walker, Evans, etc, etc.  (I was specifically trying to think of talent that wasn't super fresh in people's mind.  cac- Korleone is another.)  And this is coming from a dude who really didn't follow recruiting on the MO side until like 3 yrs ago, because KSU was never even mentioned in their recruiting.
Earl Watson is another.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 04, 2011, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:40:22 PM
JACKHARRYKSHB JACK HARRY
Missouri curators okayed Frank Haith. 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. News conference tomorrow at 10 am.


JFC, $1.5M per?? This stiff was making $600K at Miami and was going to get run.  WTF is MU thinking?

Fuktard, don't think this is accurate.  810 said repeatedly today that he was making around $1.5M at the u.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Ok, let's get constructive now.  goEMAWers need to go to UM message boards and monitor the situation closely, and report your findings here.  If they have a pay site that is worth a crap, let's get a subscription going for this month.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 09:50:14 PM
kennedy and blair hated manhattan.  the only thing that makes them unique is that they actually visited rather than blowing us off from the beginning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 09:55:14 PM
Made them unique from Beas, Walker, and Pullz?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 04, 2011, 09:55:45 PM
more stevedave, less dorks please.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 04, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Ok, let's get constructive now.  goEMAWers need to go to UM message boards and monitor the situation closely, and report your findings here.  If they have a pay site that is worth a cac, let's get a subscription going for this month.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2929&t=7394769&p=1
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
This thread has become a half-baked brick of crap now that the champ game has distracted sports writers/analysts from caring about miami/martin
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 04, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
KState fans love to downplay Kansas/KC guys because we seldom land the good ones.  The Rush bros, the kid that played for Stanford, (Willms?) Tyrone Brown, Jamall Walker, Evans, etc, etc.  (I was specifically trying to think of talent that wasn't super fresh in people's mind.  cac- Korleone is another.)  And this is coming from a dude who really didn't follow recruiting on the MO side until like 3 yrs ago, because KSU was never even mentioned in their recruiting.
Earl Watson is another.

Anyone remember Derek Hood and Tyrone Lew
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: raquetcat on April 04, 2011, 10:02:37 PM
Quote from: pike on April 04, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Yet another N.C State candidate off board. RT @tsnmike: Cincinnati's Mick Cronin remains w/ Bearcats, receives extension aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketbal…


NC State's AD woman must be a real bitch

she's really good at getting coaches at other schools extensions/raises, how many have turned her down to get extensions, Smart, Marshall, Cronin, and there are more I'm not remembering now
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
This thread has become a half-baked brick of crap now that the champ game has distracted sports writers/analysts from caring about miami/martin

The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 04, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
This thread has become a half-baked brick of crap now that the champ game has distracted sports writers/analysts from caring about miami/martin

The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.

this  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 04, 2011, 10:13:21 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2929&t=7393996&p=1

Only a few of the posters actually seem to want him.  They seem to want Capel...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 04, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Ok, let's get constructive now.  goEMAWers need to go to UM message boards and monitor the situation closely, and report your findings here.  If they have a pay site that is worth a cac, let's get a subscription going for this month.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2929&t=7394769&p=1

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Best reason not to want Frank Martin for Miami's head coaching vacancy: We've already had one coach that recruited Denis Clemente, we don't need a second.

These guys deserve a shitty team.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.

you posted more than anyone else.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 04, 2011, 10:17:52 PM
LOL at their dumbassery.
God forbid a point guard lead your team to an Elite 8.  

No wonder they suck at bball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 04, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Location does matter

Every single college basketball recruiting class ranking ever released disagrees with you.

Toss out the "traditional" powers (...we are not one of those).  Then, look at the locations.

What I'm looking at is what the Florida schools are not getting, I'm not talking about us.  BTW the only "traditional" powers IMO are KU, UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA.  Every other good current program is the beneficiary of recent success, hiring the right guy.  There is literally no reason why any BCS school who wants to commit themselves to it can't become Syracuse.

How can you not put UCONN in the traditional powerhouses? For a kid who is 15-18, UCONN has won 2 NCs in that time (about to be 3) and gone to 4 Final 4's, and won the Big East in 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2006, not to mention winning the Big East tournament. They'd be right up there with Duke in terms of accomplishments in the past 20 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
This thread has become a half-baked brick of cac now that the champ game has distracted sports writers/analysts from caring about miami/martin

The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.

NO ONE got weeded out. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 04, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 04, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 04, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Ok, let's get constructive now.  goEMAWers need to go to UM message boards and monitor the situation closely, and report your findings here.  If they have a pay site that is worth a cac, let's get a subscription going for this month.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2929&t=7394769&p=1

Quote
Best reason not to want Frank Martin for Miami's head coaching vacancy: We've already had one coach that recruited Denis Clemente, we don't need a second.

These guys deserve a cacty team.

This is the kind of insight you expect from "hotdog guy"...

Quote
1. Frank Martin speaks Spanish?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.

you posted more than anyone else.  

Not surprise that you missed the point, I was complimenting you and Pete for diverting the 10+ pages of :runaway: Frank's gone.  My god do you huff paint?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 04, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
The discussion of Pete & chum's talking point did a good job of weeding out you tards, please read only.  I'm pretty sure I speak for many when I say pages 8-18 or so of this thread could vanish and no one would ever miss what was there.

you posted more than anyone else.  

Not surprise that you missed the point, I was complimenting you and Pete for diverting the 10+ pages of :runaway: Frank's gone.  My god do you huff paint?

no, the meltdown is the good, fun, ksufans portion of the thread.  the talking out of your ass about recruiting part is the bad, taking yourself too seriously, gpc portion of the thread.  gpc sucks.  you suck.  get it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
This is a thread about the coaching carousel, right?  Just want to be sure this is the best place to dump this?   :facepalm:

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Yet another N.C State candidate off board. RT @tsnmike: Cincinnati's Mick Cronin remains w/ Bearcats, receives extension http://t.co/ncsyHa3

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
This is a thread about the coaching carousel, right?  Just want to be sure this is the best place to dump this?   :facepalm:

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Yet another N.C State candidate off board. RT @tsnmike: Cincinnati's Mick Cronin remains w/ Bearcats, receives extension http://t.co/ncsyHa3



They should give Dana Altman a call.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:05:41 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

Good number, but I'd offer it tomorrow and have him sign with a humongo buyout so Uconn doesn't take him. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

Just restructure. Keep the current deal, but add on around 200K per year.  Instead of $1.3 million in 2011-12, $1.4 million in 2012-13, $1.5 million in 2013-14 and $1.6 million in 2014-15, make it something like this: $1.5 million in 2011-12, $1.6 million in 2012-13, $1.7 million in 2013-14 and $1.8 million in 2014-15. Plus incentives.

Then reset the buyout; $2 million this season, then $1 after next, and so on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2011, 11:14:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

Does goEMAW mgmt have to fire up the "pay Frank" machine again, or can you guys do something on your own?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

If we do end up extending him, I hope it is done right.  He needs to be at $2 million plus with raises for the staff which will allow for a high buyout.  Part of the reason that we are worried about lateral or worse moves like Oregon, Depaul, NCSU, and Miami is that his contract blows.  However, at this point it would appear that we would be bidding against ourselves which isn't a good thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

If we do end up extending him, I hope it is done right.  He needs to be at $2 million plus with raises for the staff which will allow for a high buyout.  Part of the reason that we are worried about lateral or worse moves like Oregon, Depaul, NCSU, and Miami is that his contract blows.  However, at this point it would appear that we would be bidding against ourselves which isn't a good thing.

Here's something I debated with a co-worker...

I don't know what we're paying Underwood, Figgs, Greenwalt, etc., but if Frank is the loyal guy I think he is, and Currie is the guy I think he is (i.e. he'll go outside the current staff for a coach), something tells me the school that hires him is hiring the whole crew, and Frank wouldn't feel right letting his guys swing in the wind without jobs.  That's the biggest reason I don't think Miami is a threat; they can pay him, but I don't think they can handle the entourage.

Now, my assumption could have no basis in reality, and I could be way off base, but I think we need to keep throwing money at the whole lot of them.  That seems like it's every bit, if not more, likely to keep him here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:23:02 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 04, 2011, 11:14:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

Does goEMAW mgmt have to fire up the "pay Frank" machine again, or can you guys do something on your own?
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Hey, I wrote an article about it last year, man.  We just don't have the marketing engine you guys do.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 04, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
His contract is probably just about right where it should be and 1.5 mil plus incentives for the next few years is a great deal for a first time head coach. If another school comes offering with more money we'll have the opp to restructure his contract or not. If his success continues we'll prob restructure it regardless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 04, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
a first time head coach

He has had sustained success, this is no longer relevant.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2011, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

Just restructure. Keep the current deal, but add on around 200K per year.  Instead of $1.3 million in 2011-12, $1.4 million in 2012-13, $1.5 million in 2013-14 and $1.6 million in 2014-15, make it something like this: $1.5 million in 2011-12, $1.6 million in 2012-13, $1.7 million in 2013-14 and $1.8 million in 2014-15. Plus incentives.

Then reset the buyout; $2 million this season, then $1 after next, and so on.

I don't know, man.  Market value is skyrocketing, and we had a budget surplus of what?  $4 million?

Snyder certainly isn't the one getting our Powercat pasted all over ESPN.  Deb Patterson isn't going on Jim Rome and getting slobbered all over.  

I guess what I'm saying is that we're paying for Frank Martin: The Brand, which is immensely popular and elevates Kansas State: The Brand.  I think he's worth a $500K bump in the restructure that says 1.8, 1.9, 2.0, 2.1, etc.

I like your idea, but I think we need to just show him we're serious and just be done with it.  We're paying Snyder $1.85 million to basically act like a Jersey crime lord and give jobs to buddies and relatives with no other job skills, so Frank should get roughly the equal amount for making us relevant on a national scale.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 04, 2011, 11:31:19 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

If we do end up extending him, I hope it is done right.  He needs to be at $2 million plus with raises for the staff which will allow for a high buyout.  Part of the reason that we are worried about lateral or worse moves like Oregon, Depaul, NCSU, and Miami is that his contract blows.  However, at this point it would appear that we would be bidding against ourselves which isn't a good thing.

Here's something I debated with a co-worker...

I don't know what we're paying Underwood, Figgs, Greenwalt, etc., but if Frank is the loyal guy I think he is, and Currie is the guy I think he is (i.e. he'll go outside the current staff for a coach), something tells me the school that hires him is hiring the whole crew, and Frank wouldn't feel right letting his guys swing in the wind without jobs.  That's the biggest reason I don't think Miami is a threat; they can pay him, but I don't think they can handle the entourage.

Now, my assumption could have no basis in reality, and I could be way off base, but I think we need to keep throwing money at the whole lot of them.  That seems like it's every bit, if not more, likely to keep him here.

Last year when Frank's contract was redone, all of the assistants got raises too, I believe.  At least that's what Currie said at the press conference anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:31:58 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 04, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 04, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Okay, the horrible game is over, the squabbling over the KSU vs. Miami job is hopefully drawing to a close (because KSU is the better job, obviously), and now we can start talking about how much Frank can command for his extension.

I say KSU starts at $1.8 per year plus incentives.  Seems like a reasonable starting point.

Thoughts?

If we do end up extending him, I hope it is done right.  He needs to be at $2 million plus with raises for the staff which will allow for a high buyout.  Part of the reason that we are worried about lateral or worse moves like Oregon, Depaul, NCSU, and Miami is that his contract blows.  However, at this point it would appear that we would be bidding against ourselves which isn't a good thing.

Here's something I debated with a co-worker...

I don't know what we're paying Underwood, Figgs, Greenwalt, etc., but if Frank is the loyal guy I think he is, and Currie is the guy I think he is (i.e. he'll go outside the current staff for a coach), something tells me the school that hires him is hiring the whole crew, and Frank wouldn't feel right letting his guys swing in the wind without jobs.  That's the biggest reason I don't think Miami is a threat; they can pay him, but I don't think they can handle the entourage.

Now, my assumption could have no basis in reality, and I could be way off base, but I think we need to keep throwing money at the whole lot of them.  That seems like it's every bit, if not more, likely to keep him here.

I think we should specifically throw more money at Figgz, Greeny, and maybe Assaley.  Hill makes enough as it is, and Frank seems like me might kill Brad someday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:37:28 PM
i wouldn't negotiate from weakness, just my bias.


if i still felt like it was something to do over the summer or next fall, then i'd dump in a ton of retention bonus money to even out the defacto buyout.  could bump up the salary as well or not.  at this level, i really don't think money is going to be what causes martin to stay or go over then next couple years.



not going to go back and look for it to quote, but, jt, good observo re. kstate fans underrating ks/kc talent because for 20 years kstate got so little of it.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2011, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2011, 11:31:58 PM
I think we should specifically throw more money at Figgz, Greeny, and maybe Assaley.  Hill makes enough as it is, and Frank seems like me might kill Brad someday.

can't let assaley get away.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:29:05 AM
While we're throwing otherpeople's money around, why not give Phil Jackson like 10 mil per year?  I promise we will recruit like nobody's business.  The fact is- Frank isn't worth 2 mil.  He may be someday, but he isn't right now.   We could likely get a very talented coach for less than that.   I guess there must be a bunch of poor ass, lotto scratching mofos in this thread.  Rich people didn't become rich by wasting money, no matter what part of the country they live in.  If Frank's deal is 1.5sh, renegotiate to 1.7 ish, with raises for the staff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:29:05 AM
While we're throwing otherpeople's money around, why not give Phil Jackson like 10 mil per year?  I promise we will recruit like nobody's business.  The fact is- Frank isn't worth 2 mil.  He may be someday, but he isn't right now.   We could likely get a very talented coach for less than that.   I guess there must be a bunch of poor ass, lotto scratching mofos in this thread.  Rich people didn't become rich by wasting money, no matter what part of the country they live in.  If Frank's deal is 1.5sh, renegotiate to 1.7 ish, with raises for the staff.

If necessary, you pay whatever it takes to keep someone who has gone to four straight post-season tournaments (NCAA 75% of the time) and finished in the top four of their conference every year they've been the coach.

You could end up with Frank Haith if you play serious hardball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:29:05 AM
While we're throwing otherpeople's money around, why not give Phil Jackson like 10 mil per year?  I promise we will recruit like nobody's business.  The fact is- Frank isn't worth 2 mil.  He may be someday, but he isn't right now.   We could likely get a very talented coach for less than that.   I guess there must be a bunch of poor ass, lotto scratching mofos in this thread.  Rich people didn't become rich by wasting money, no matter what part of the country they live in.  If Frank's deal is 1.5sh, renegotiate to 1.7 ish, with raises for the staff.

Pretty certain that I said I wouldn't negotiate against ourselves, it isn't needed at this point.  Bumping his to $1.5-$1.7 won't be an option if we have to renegotiate, whoever makes him an offer will offer at least that.  A $200,000 raise, pfft.  

Had this "worth" conversation last week, not having it again.  When you measure worth, consider the revenues of the basketball program now and then what it was before Huggins and Frank.  Really when we are talking about literally millions in profits, a few hundred thousand isn't a big deal to commit to a known entity that donors are happy with.  The shitty football coach makes over $2 million.  I want to become a big time program, we won't get there by being cheap with a couple of dollars.  We have the money, and by the way it isn't "other peoples money."  I donate and I'll donate more if I know the money is being used correctly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:50:26 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 12:51:25 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

I don't think he is proposing the raise right now.  That being said IF he did get the raise without the price being pushed up by another athletic department you could also throw in the Buzz Williams like $3 million buyout.  The issue problem with waiting is that you run the risk of having to pay more.  There is no doubt that if someone wants Frank it is going to cost a hell of a lot more to match someones offer and bump up a buyout.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:59:29 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 12:51:25 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

I don't think he is proposing the raise right now.  That being said IF he did get the raise without the price being pushed up by another athletic department you could also throw in the Buzz Williams like $3 million buyout.  The issue problem with waiting is that you run the risk of having to pay more.  There is no doubt that if someone wants Frank it is going to cost a hell of a lot more to match someones offer and bump up a buyout.

This.  A million times this.

Oregon and DePaul offered ungodly sums of money at Frank last year, and he stayed for his piddly extension.

What Frank makes right now puts him at risk for lateral moves and bad moves motivated by big money (e.g. NC State).  You need to take lateral moves out of the equation.  You do that by paying your coach a competitive salary.

What do we know?  LHC Bill Snyder makes at least $1.85 million.  As I'm aware, Travis Ford is the fourth highest paid coach in the conference at 1.8 million.  It only seems fair that he be paid as much as a football coach that isn't providing anything in terms of media exposure or quality results, and in the top quartile of conference coaches for finishing in the top quartile every year he's been a head coach.

Therefore, I want him to make at least $1.8 million.  $500K.  Big whoop.  He's selling out the arena, increasing donations, and the momentum behind his program secured enough money to get a practice facility built based only on private donations (for two programs no less).

To me, that seems like a steal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:07:33 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:29:05 AM
While we're throwing otherpeople's money around, why not give Phil Jackson like 10 mil per year?  I promise we will recruit like nobody's business.  The fact is- Frank isn't worth 2 mil.  He may be someday, but he isn't right now.   We could likely get a very talented coach for less than that.   I guess there must be a bunch of poor ass, lotto scratching mofos in this thread.  Rich people didn't become rich by wasting money, no matter what part of the country they live in.  If Frank's deal is 1.5sh, renegotiate to 1.7 ish, with raises for the staff.

If necessary, you pay whatever it takes to keep someone who has gone to four straight post-season tournaments (NCAA 75% of the time) and finished in the top four of their conference every year they've been the coach.

Come on Pan. Whatever it takes? Now you're sounding like the tuck fans that are terrified of ever letting go of OB. I rough ridin' love Frank and he should get what he deserves and if another school offers more we should battle to keep him. But once the practice facility gets done you could actually call k-state a pretty good job. And I'm pretty glad we have an AD now that knows this and won't negotiate like coaches are holding us hostage.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:11:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:50:26 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

These are all really good points though. This definitely raises Frank's worth. It's like the anti-Snyder effect.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:11:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:50:26 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

These are all really good points though. This definitely raises Frank's worth. It's like the anti-Snyder effect.

I'm not being all 'sky is falling' tuckish.  I just want people to recognize that Frank's value extends past wins and losses for us.

Also, aside from that, with all of the mid-major coaches scrambling back to their current jobs with long term extensions, you don't want to be in the market for a new coach right now, or so it seems.  You may have to overpay to prevent taking a real step back.

Can you find a coach out there on your radar that has Frank's resume AND out-of-the-box charisma?  I saw one person this off-season, and he just signed an eight year extension with VCU.

After that, it's just a sea of 'meh' and a lot of tier 3 broadcasts because ESPN doesn't care about KSU without Frank Martin on Big Monday with a 'coach cam' glued on his face.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 05, 2011, 02:09:24 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:11:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:50:26 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Gotcha- just throw money around.

That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

These are all really good points though. This definitely raises Frank's worth. It's like the anti-Snyder effect.

I'm not being all 'sky is falling' tuckish.  I just want people to recognize that Frank's value extends past wins and losses for us.

Also, aside from that, with all of the mid-major coaches scrambling back to their current jobs with long term extensions, you don't want to be in the market for a new coach right now, or so it seems.  You may have to overpay to prevent taking a real step back.

Can you find a coach out there on your radar that has Frank's resume AND out-of-the-box charisma?  I saw one person this off-season, and he just signed an eight year extension with VCU.

After that, it's just a sea of 'meh' and a lot of tier 3 broadcasts because ESPN doesn't care about KSU without Frank Martin on Big Monday with a 'coach cam' glued on his face.

Great post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:07:33 AM
once the practice facility gets done you could actually call k-state a pretty good job.

what makes it "good"?  in comparison with what?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 06:14:59 AM
Kesus, Sys, get over yourself.  grab a dictionary and find "good,"  And we're obviously talking about one thing, D1 college basketball.  Stop acting like you're some sort of genius.  You may be a savant but we all know what typically precides that term.  On a side note- anyone suggesting that Frank should be paid like Bill is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  If Frank is able to replicate the DoD in the OOD, maybe.  I know who paysthe billls and whatever retards suggested that obviously doesn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 07:01:26 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 05, 2011, 06:14:59 AM
Kesus, Sys, get over yourself.  grab a dictionary and find "good,"  And we're obviously talking about one thing, D1 college basketball.  Stop acting like you're some sort of genius.  You may be a savant but we all know what typically precides that term.  On a side note- anyone suggesting that Frank should be paid like Bill is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). If Frank is able to replicate the DoD in the OOD, maybe.  I know who paysthe billls and whatever retards suggested that obviously doesn't.

So, yeah, a bunch of conference wins and one conference title in 15 years.  Got it.

Frank already has a really good conference winning percentage, and he has 11 years to win a conference title, so your argument doesn't hold much water.

And thank you for completely ignoring my point about getting Kansas State out there on a national scale.  Since Bill hunkers down and acts like a crotchety hermit 365 days a year, we need to at least acknowledge Frank's value as being the face of our athletic department.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 07:03:37 AM
KSU's a good job.  Good fan support, good admin support.  Soon to be good facilities.  If they restructure frank's contract in the ballpark of 1.75-2 per year it's even better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 07:18:27 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
UM Basketball Coaching Search Update: Miami has contacted Alabama HC and native Miamian Anthony Grant.

Mods, should we start a separate UM Coach watch thread?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
I'm sorry I missed the recruiting discussion. I think the "location doesn't matter" folks are ignoring the long term. I agree there would be little to no difference in the short term. Long term, proximity to a large population base DOES matter. Huggs talked about it quite a bit during his time here - you can't just have underclassmen pop in for an open gym or unofficial visit in Manhattan like you can in Cincinnati or Miami or UConn. You don't think easier access to face time with recruits isn't an advantage? If so, you're so beyond dumbass I don't even know where to start.

Location is not an excuse, and it can be overcome (KU, OSU, and MU really have the same disadvantage), but it is reality.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 05, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
You know what I enjoyed besides having ridic. adorable players?

The Streak.

Gonna suck playing Doc and Boyle on Wednesdays from now on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 05, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM


That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).


Excellent points.

As the old adage goes, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

I think the strategy is far more sound to continue the heavy financial commitment to preserve what we have in a proven commodity because we could easily be facing a Missouri scenario.  We know what we have in Frank.  The sample size is large enough to deduct that this guy is a hell of a coach, one that historically is in line with some of the best that have ever coached here.  And as you noted maybe one of the most important facet of Frank's value is tremendous ability to elevate the brand for our university.  I mention all of this because the prior 20 years in which the program languished in obscurity before Frank is still fresh in my mind.

If we're in a financial position to do it, I think it's greatly important from a visible demonstration of commitment to elevate his salary again in accordance with the shifting market.  An additional 400 to 500k annually is more that worthy considering the returns, in my opinion.




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2011, 08:23:02 AM
The only reason Frank's contract looks low is because Dalonte makes so much. Frank should get a small raise, but bumping him up to $2 million per year and paying Dalonte almost half a million is excessive. Keep in mind that we will be looking for a new football coach in a couple of years, and we will need all the money we can get if we want somebody good for that role.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 08:32:07 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Pat Knight hired at Lamar. Source told FOXSports.com news conference scheduled for later today.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 08:38:53 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 08:32:07 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Pat Knight hired at Lamar. Source told FOXSports.com news conference scheduled for later today.

Good for Pat.

When Lamar destroyed one of Dana's teams it was definitely a sign of things to come for Wildcat basketball.  The Altburidge era. :sigh:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 08:43:40 AM
810 saying there is lots of talk that Jeff Capel will be Haith's top assistant.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2011, 08:45:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:07:33 AM
once the practice facility gets done you could actually call k-state a pretty good job.

what makes it "good"?  in comparison with what?

cu, nu, baylor, tt, ou, isu - definitely
osu, mu - possibly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 05, 2011, 08:45:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:07:33 AM
once the practice facility gets done you could actually call k-state a pretty good job.

what makes it "good"?  in comparison with what?

cu, nu, baylor, tt, ou, isu - definitely
osu, mu - possibly

Which is acceptable given our current financial situation and the current need.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
When Frank has the program at a level that it's bringing in $9-$10 million a year, and not $7 or $8 million a year than by all means, give him a huge pay raise.  

Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.   Next year the per seat Ahearn Fees go up for Basketball, will there be enough enthusiasm behind the program to sell out again?  

He just got a huge pay raise, next year his pay will have nearly doubled over his original contract, he got paid a huge signing bonus, he's on the cusp of getting a $250K retention bonus, he's being paid significant bonuses for things that have nothing to do with winning, plus significant bonuses for doing things that should be expected every year.   He's got perks coming out the ass, and they're building him a brand new $17 million dollar basketball facility.  

It's not like K-State isn't pumping plenty of cash into Frank's pocket for what I consider the baseline of what K-State basketball should do every single year.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2011, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
I'm sorry I missed the recruiting discussion. I think the "location doesn't matter" folks are ignoring the long term. I agree there would be little to no difference in the short term. Long term, proximity to a large population base DOES matter. Huggs talked about it quite a bit during his time here - you can't just have underclassmen pop in for an open gym or unofficial visit in Manhattan like you can in Cincinnati or Miami or UConn. You don't think easier access to face time with recruits isn't an advantage? If so, you're so beyond dumbass I don't even know where to start.

Location is not an excuse, and it can be overcome (KU, OSU, and MU really have the same disadvantage), but it is reality.

I agree, but the airport situation changing has helped IMO. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 05, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Exerpts from Mellinger article:

haith is a great recruiter.  His teams overachieved.  1 NCAA tourney in 7 years.  Avg wins 18.

Can someone smarter than me explain this?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 08:43:40 AM
810 saying there is lots of talk that Jeff Capel will be Haith's top assistant.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 08:43:40 AM
810 saying there is lots of talk that Jeff Capel will be Haith's top assistant.

seen some stuff on Mizzou boards. Didn't figure there was much to it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 05, 2011, 09:47:32 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 05, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Exerpts from Mellinger article:

haith is a great recruiter.  His teams overachieved.  1 NCAA tourney in 7 years.  Avg wins 18.

Can someone smarter than me explain this?


Simple explanation is Mellinger is a dumbass.  He contradicts himself in that excerpt.  If a coach is such great recruiter, how can a team overachieve and only get to i tourney in 7 years??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 07:18:27 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
UM Basketball Coaching Search Update: Miami has contacted Alabama HC and native Miamian Anthony Grant.

Mods, should we start a separate UM Coach watch thread?

Seems like a good time to remind everyone that there is a scheduled press conference with KSU in 48 hours here in Wichita to announce the WVU game.  I would guess this will be resolved by then.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 05, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Exerpts from Mellinger article:

haith is a great recruiter.  His teams overachieved.  1 NCAA tourney in 7 years.  Avg wins 18.

Can someone smarter than me explain this?

The overachieved part comes from the fact that Miami is traditionally a terrible program, and besides Leonard Hamilton it has been. But you are correct, it is a big contradiction to say he recruited well (and he did, his recruiting was very good IMHO) but still overachieved. His teams are simply average defensively and don't pressure (force TOs) at all, it will be interesting to see how that translates to the Big 12/10. His defensive profiles remind me of a Greg McDermott coached team, his offensive profiles actually have some similarities to ours, and his teams play at a pace of about 65 poss/game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.


The problem I have with that example is that this is the second time we've heard that....except before, it was "let's see how he does after Beasley/Walker."

I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
He might have recruited well relative to the Big 12 but I don't think he recruited especially well relative to the ACC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
frank doesn't need a raise, jfc.  and the brand crap was funny too.  tons of dumbassery everywhere in this thread. 


Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
have you clicked on any of the recruiting threads lately?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.


The problem I have with that example is that this is the second time we've heard that....except before, it was "let's see how he does after Beasley/Walker."

I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.

I agree with dax, but I also think we can take it further.  Let's see how well Frank does without Diaz or A-rod and then we'll really know what kind of a coach he is. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
frank doesn't need a raise, jfc.  and the brand crap was funny too.  tons of dumbassery everywhere in this thread. 


Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
have you clicked on any of the recruiting threads lately?

i don't give 2 shits about recruiting, i just care about results.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:19:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.


The problem I have with that example is that this is the second time we've heard that....except before, it was "let's see how he does after Beasley/Walker."

I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.

I agree with dax, but I also think we can take it further.  Let's see how well Frank does without Diaz or A-rod and then we'll really know what kind of a coach he is. 

next, it will probably end up being "let's see how he does without McGruder/Spradling"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
He might have recruited well relative to the Big 12 but I don't think he recruited especially well relative to the ACC.

Fair point. Just glancing at the rest of the ACC outside of Duke/Carolina, Haith's recruiting was probably in about the middle of the league.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
frank doesn't need a raise, jfc.  and the brand crap was funny too.  tons of dumbassery everywhere in this thread. 


Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
have you clicked on any of the recruiting threads lately?

i don't give 2 shits about recruiting, i just care about results. 
just a "heads up", the two are directly related.  dumbass_Cat
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.


The problem I have with that example is that this is the second time we've heard that....except before, it was "let's see how he does after Beasley/Walker."

I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.

No we're not . . . and we don't need to throw any more money around.   For the amount of money that K-State basketball makes, and for what Frank has done to date.  He's compensated quite well . . . and note, I'm not saying we can't afford to pay him another $500K a year or even more, because we can.   But that puts Frank in the same arena as coaches who have done a hell of a lot a more than he has/coaches with great agents working for stupid schools who pay too much for what they get.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
frank doesn't need a raise, jfc.  and the brand crap was funny too.  tons of dumbassery everywhere in this thread. 


Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
have you clicked on any of the recruiting threads lately?

i don't give 2 shits about recruiting, i just care about results. 
just a "heads up", the two are directly related.  dumbass_Cat

until I start to see shitty results, I DGAF, fake_clams
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

The branding issue is a major point in all this, and one that can't be overlooked. And its noticed, Telep wrote about it in November:

Quote
1. The scowl is the brand
The best basketball teams in America recruit to their brand. Teams who struggle to establish their brand often times wind up navigating the high seas of college basketball without a compass. Your brand or identity can be a style of play like Syracuse's zone or a mindset akin to Michigan State's toughness.
At Kansas State, the brand is the coach. Frank Martin sets the tone and is the face of the program. Each icy stare he shoots at a player isn't met with resistance but respect and the guys truly revere him on his team. Martin recruits guys with a chip on their shoulder and coaches them hard.

When you bring in guys who feel slighted like Jacob Pullen (not a top 100 player) and Will Spradling, they want to prove people wrong. Martin uses that motivation and by doing so he appeals to the next Pullen sitting in his living room watching Kansas State gang up on higher-rated prospects and teams. Martin is the brand and right now it's strong and appealing.

We have something that can't be replaced easily if you let it go. When Kruger left K-State still had a brand as a program. We've been through Huggins, Beasley, Walker, and Pullen in the last 5 years, but when you ask 95% (or more) of the public about K-State basketball, most will mention Frank Martin first. This is really an amazing thing, I think we are so close to it as fans we really don't realize how amazing it is, especially when a big part of the star power in college basketball is from the coaches, past and present. From Wooden to Knight to Coach K to Calhoun. Players come and go so often, the face of programs either becomes their tradition/success, their coach, or eventually both. All signs point to us having at least the beginning stages of that, it would be stupid to let that go because we're too cheap to pony up another 300-500K per year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 10:36:01 AM
who do you guys think bama will hire if grant goes to miami?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:39:40 AM
don't want to burst your bubble but there's really only two brands:  shitty team and non-shitty team.

1) good team and 2) everyone else
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
frank doesn't need a raise, jfc.  and the brand crap was funny too.  tons of dumbassery everywhere in this thread. 


Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.
have you clicked on any of the recruiting threads lately?

i don't give 2 shits about recruiting, i just care about results. 
just a "heads up", the two are directly related.  dumbass_Cat

until I start to see shitty results, I DGAF, fake_clams
COACH 'EM UP FRANK!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
No we're not . . . and we don't need to throw any more money around.   For the amount of money that K-State basketball makes, and for what Frank has done to date.  He's compensated quite well . . . and note, I'm not saying we can't afford to pay him another $500K a year or even more, because we can.   But that puts Frank in the same arena as coaches who have done a hell of a lot a more than he has/coaches with great agents working for stupid schools who pay too much for what they get.

This is just part of the issue and challenge of college athletics right now though. I don't disagree with anything you said, but when other programs are overpaying (just look at Ford at OSU, Kruger at OU, and even Haith at MU) in our own conference, it forces your hand a bit. Especially when you have what has been talked about before, one of the top "brand" coaches in the league. Granted, it is still early and there is still risk involved, but the first 4 years and some sustained success have shown that its probably worth the risk.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 10:43:06 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

The branding issue is a major point in all this, and one that can't be overlooked. And its noticed, Telep wrote about it in November:

Quote
1. The scowl is the brand
The best basketball teams in America recruit to their brand. Teams who struggle to establish their brand often times wind up navigating the high seas of college basketball without a compass. Your brand or identity can be a style of play like Syracuse's zone or a mindset akin to Michigan State's toughness.
At Kansas State, the brand is the coach. Frank Martin sets the tone and is the face of the program. Each icy stare he shoots at a player isn't met with resistance but respect and the guys truly revere him on his team. Martin recruits guys with a chip on their shoulder and coaches them hard.

When you bring in guys who feel slighted like Jacob Pullen (not a top 100 player) and Will Spradling, they want to prove people wrong. Martin uses that motivation and by doing so he appeals to the next Pullen sitting in his living room watching Kansas State gang up on higher-rated prospects and teams. Martin is the brand and right now it's strong and appealing.

We have something that can't be replaced easily if you let it go. When Kruger left K-State still had a brand as a program. We've been through Huggins, Beasley, Walker, and Pullen in the last 5 years, but when you ask 95% (or more) of the public about K-State basketball, most will mention Frank Martin first. This is really an amazing thing, I think we are so close to it as fans we really don't realize how amazing it is, especially when a big part of the star power in college basketball is from the coaches, past and present. From Wooden to Knight to Coach K to Calhoun. Players come and go so often, the face of programs either becomes their tradition/success, their coach, or eventually both. All signs point to us having at least the beginning stages of that, it would be stupid to let that go because we're too cheap to pony up another 300-500K per year.

I agree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:39:40 AM
don't want to burst your bubble but there's really only two brands:  cacty team and non-cacty team.

1) good team and 2) everyone else

More often than not, the brand of good teams becomes the coach. As long as K-State stays good, Martin is an exceptional brand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
No we're not . . . and we don't need to throw any more money around.   For the amount of money that K-State basketball makes, and for what Frank has done to date.  He's compensated quite well . . . and note, I'm not saying we can't afford to pay him another $500K a year or even more, because we can.   But that puts Frank in the same arena as coaches who have done a hell of a lot a more than he has/coaches with great agents working for stupid schools who pay too much for what they get.

This is just part of the issue and challenge of college athletics right now though. I don't disagree with anything you said, but when other programs are overpaying (just look at Ford at OSU, Kruger at OU, and even Haith at MU) in our own conference, it forces your hand a bit. Especially when you have what has been talked about before, one of the top "brand" coaches in the league. Granted, it is still early and there is still risk involved, but the first 4 years and some sustained success have shown that its probably worth the risk.

Inflation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 10:39:40 AM
don't want to burst your bubble but there's really only two brands:  shitty team and non-shitty team.

1) good team and 2) everyone else

I can't tell if you're being serious or not
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
Inflation.

Paying Lon Kruger more than $2 Mil goes beyond inflation, especially when you compare the economics of college basketball to the real world.  But it is what it is, if you want to be good and stay good, you have to spend the money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
But it is what it is, if you want to be good and stay good, you have to spend the money.

We have a lot of football kstateos that are having a difficult time grasping this concept.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
Inflation.

Paying Lon Kruger more than $2 Mil goes beyond inflation, especially when you compare the economics of college basketball to the real world.  But it is what it is, if you want to be good and stay good, you have to spend the money.

I didn't mean inflation in a macroeconomic sense (to include the US or the world economies), but a very specific inflation that seems to be occuring with college bball coaches (could probably extrapolate to football, too.)

I have no idea what margins look like, income breakdowns, etc etc, but if we are solidly profitable right now (making many millions of dollars each year) it'd be silly not to spend a little more to keep that, if that's what it took.  I'm with the camp that right now is not the time to be cheap.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 11:00:09 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
But it is what it is, if you want to be good and stay good, you have to spend the money.

We have a lot of football kstateos that are having a difficult time grasping this concept.

Yes, we can take a chance by bringing Frank's pay up, probably close to $2 Mil per year.  

Or we stand firm with his current contract, take a risk that it may not be enough, and then see what we can get on the open market.

Its not hard to see which option seems more attractive (and overall less risk) to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?

NEVER SAY NEVER
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?

NEVER SAY NEVER

that's it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?

NEVER SAY NEVER

Good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
Okay . . . I guess if it means assuring at least staying interesting in hoops one way or or another, give Frank a big fat raise and join the 3rd choice and that's taking a risk.  

I supposse if it takes $1.8 or $2 million a year to finish 3rd thru 5th  in the conference (because with Frank's recruiting that's the best it's ever going to be and I'm okay with that for the most part) and making the NCAA tourney most of the time . . . then so be it.

But while I'm all about spending big money when it's merited,  I am against spending stupid money . . . and paying Lon Kruger $2.2 million a year is stupid, and paying Frank $1.8 to $2 million a year is fringe stupid at this juncture and IMO.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
Frank Martin: "I'm at K-State right now because I haven't had opportunities to make more money elsewhere." #outofcontext
9 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 05, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
Frank Martin: "I'm at K-State right now because I haven't had opportunities to make more money elsewhere." #outofcontext
9 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:frown:


K-State Basketball. We'll be Ready.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 11:15:51 AM
so much for serious discussion about bama. 

so, who do you guys think is the biggest homer:  mir or manhatter?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
Frank Martin: "I'm at K-State right now because I haven't had opportunities to make more money elsewhere." #outofcontext
9 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:frown:


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ejwestksu Eric Westerman

@j_rake Actually, that's the exact opposite of what Martin said. He's at K-State despite having opportunities for raises elsewhere.

heh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?

NEVER SAY NEVER

mellinger - "watch out kstate fans, because in tomorrow's blog i outline why the timing is PERFECT for martin to leave."
mellinger tomorrow - "pullen and kelly are seniors, they won't be back."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
Okay . . . I guess if it means assuring at least staying interesting in hoops one way or or another, give Frank a big fat raise and join the 3rd choice and that's taking a risk.  

I supposse if it takes $1.8 or $2 million a year to finish 3rd thru 5th  in the conference (because with Frank's recruiting that's the best it's ever going to be and I'm okay with that for the most part) and making the NCAA tourney most of the time . . . then so be it.

But while I'm all about spending big money when it's merited,  I am against spending stupid money . . . and paying Lon Kruger $2.2 million a year is stupid, and paying Frank $1.8 to $2 million a year is fringe stupid at this juncture and IMO.



Fair enough.

If we did give him more money, I'd advocate keeping the same salary structure and increase the buyouts. Yesterday I said 200K, but I'd probably go 400K to 500K now.

$1.7 million in 2011-12, $1.8 million in 2012-13, $1.9 million in 2013-14 and $2.0 million in 2014-15.  Then increase the buyout to $2.5 million this year, $2.0 million next, and so forth. Maybe up the incentives slightly, but not a lot, just bring up the guaranteed money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 11:15:51 AM
so much for serious discussion about bama.

grant won't leave, chum1.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 05, 2011, 08:45:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
what makes it "good"?  in comparison with what?

cu, nu, baylor, tt, ou, isu - definitely
osu, mu - possibly


kstate is better than tech, nu & cu.  not better than any of the others mentioned.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 11:26:04 AM
Meek transcribes Brando/Martin: http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-05/martin-addresses-coaching-carousel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
meek has the tim brando interview transcript. rake, eff you.

http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-05/martin-addresses-coaching-carousel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 05, 2011, 11:27:39 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2011, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Quote
j_rake Jeffrey Rake
K-State fans won't like Frank Martin's responses on the @TimBrando show.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jfc, rake. what the hell did he say?

NEVER SAY NEVER

mellinger - "watch out kstate fans, because in tomorrow's blog i outline why the timing is PERFECT for martin to leave."
mellinger tomorrow - "pullen and kelly are seniors, they won't be back."

Mellinger is trying the "pure volume of words" approach that JOPO used to get a huge raise.  Churn out 10's of thousands of words daily and hope to catch some attention.  It is failing pretty badly right now, but couldn't hurt considering McClatchey has to be losing their ass and the Star is now roughly the size of the Pitch...the Sunday edition.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on April 05, 2011, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Until he proves he can sustain success, recruit at a high level, make the NCAA tourney and finish in the upper half of the conference in the post Pullen/Clemente era he's not worth a huge pay raise.


The problem I have with that example is that this is the second time we've heard that....except before, it was "let's see how he does after Beasley/Walker."

I don't think we need to throw tons of money at him, but I think we're past the point of wondering if he'll keep kstate at a high level.

No we're not . . . and we don't need to throw any more money around.   For the amount of money that K-State basketball makes, and for what Frank has done to date.  He's compensated quite well . . . and note, I'm not saying we can't afford to pay him another $500K a year or even more, because we can.   But that puts Frank in the same arena as coaches who have done a hell of a lot a more than he has/coaches with great agents working for stupid schools who pay too much for what they get.

Pay raise would not as much be about the value of Frank, but insurance against this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
meek has the tim brando interview transcript. rake, eff you.

http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-05/martin-addresses-coaching-carousel

It's a good thing, too.

The way I heard it, Frank said he was collecting welfare checks 10 years ago.  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 11:38:04 AM
nice of Frank to pitch manhattan to our next coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
rumblings Indiana has told Stevens' agent that they may fire Crean after next season and to hold out on any jobs he may be offered  :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
The good news is that Miami is probably too cheap to fly a plane to even visit with Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 11:55:31 AM
NC State related:

Quote
Dear Wolfpack Family,

I am writing to share with you the status of the search for our new head coach for men's basketball. There have been telephone conversations with successful coaches that did not develop into meetings -- sometimes because we did not wish to pursue those coaches further and sometimes because the coach involved is happy where he is.

The conversations have been candid. We have not tried to sugarcoat the challenge of rebuilding our basketball program. Our absence for 5 consecutive years from the NCAA Tournament was noted by each coach as evidence that the program is in poor shape and will require a special effort to rebuild.

Finding a coach with the fight and fire to do this job has been a challenge. That said, we will find an excellent college coach who shares the vision of what State Basketball can become and is up for the challenge.

I realize there are multiple rumors surfacing about the nature of the search on websites and in newspapers. Once our new coach is hired, I will be in a position to bring perspective to a number of those rumors. But, right now, we need to remain focused on finding a talented collegiate coach who is a fighter, full of confidence and appreciation for the opportunity to lead our basketball program back to national prominence.

That will happen in spite of those who believe this cannot occur.

Wolfpack Basketball is destined for a revival. We will accept no less. Please keep the faith while we continue the search. Your emails and text messages of support have meant everything to me. I am blessed to be your AD.

In the Spirit of the Pack,

Debbie

She just sounds awful at her job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
rumblings Indiana has told Stevens' agent that they may fire Crean after next season and to hold out on any jobs he may be offered  :surprised:

Brad Stevens will coach there at some point.  It's simply a question of when.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 11:58:55 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 10:43:06 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
That's really over-simplifying it.

As I mentioned above, you pay to keep a brand.  Kansas State isn't on ESPN all of the time, or Jim Rome all of the time, because we finish in the top four of the Big 12 every year.  We get that because of Frank Martin and the fact that he's good for a clip or a soundbyte.

Frank is one of those coaches that kind of transcends the game because of his persona.  We'll always have cameras on us because the cameras love him.  We'll always have articles written about us because he gives a great quote.  You can't put a price on that because that benefits the program AND the university.  It's free advertising.

Kansas State isn't relevant because of one Elite 8 run.  Kansas State is relevant because Frank is a good story.  Otherwise, we're Missouri, and no one gives a crap about Missouri (as you've clearly seen).

The branding issue is a major point in all this, and one that can't be overlooked. And its noticed, Telep wrote about it in November:

Quote
1. The scowl is the brand
The best basketball teams in America recruit to their brand. Teams who struggle to establish their brand often times wind up navigating the high seas of college basketball without a compass. Your brand or identity can be a style of play like Syracuse's zone or a mindset akin to Michigan State's toughness.
At Kansas State, the brand is the coach. Frank Martin sets the tone and is the face of the program. Each icy stare he shoots at a player isn't met with resistance but respect and the guys truly revere him on his team. Martin recruits guys with a chip on their shoulder and coaches them hard.

When you bring in guys who feel slighted like Jacob Pullen (not a top 100 player) and Will Spradling, they want to prove people wrong. Martin uses that motivation and by doing so he appeals to the next Pullen sitting in his living room watching Kansas State gang up on higher-rated prospects and teams. Martin is the brand and right now it's strong and appealing.

We have something that can't be replaced easily if you let it go. When Kruger left K-State still had a brand as a program. We've been through Huggins, Beasley, Walker, and Pullen in the last 5 years, but when you ask 95% (or more) of the public about K-State basketball, most will mention Frank Martin first. This is really an amazing thing, I think we are so close to it as fans we really don't realize how amazing it is, especially when a big part of the star power in college basketball is from the coaches, past and present. From Wooden to Knight to Coach K to Calhoun. Players come and go so often, the face of programs either becomes their tradition/success, their coach, or eventually both. All signs point to us having at least the beginning stages of that, it would be stupid to let that go because we're too cheap to pony up another 300-500K per year.

I agree

The best kind of validation is _FAN validation with a sd cherry on top.

 :woot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
rumblings Indiana has told Stevens' agent that they may fire Crean after next season and to hold out on any jobs he may be offered  :surprised:

Brad Stevens will coach there at some point.  It's simply a question of when.

Makes me sad.  I mean, there are much better jobs out there for the poor little guy.  Indiana has been below average or worse for longer than current recruits have been alive.

Would be amazing to see him replace Calhoun.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 11:55:31 AM
NC State related:

Quote
Dear Wolfpack Family,

I am writing to share with you the status of the search for our new head coach for men's basketball. There have been telephone conversations with successful coaches that did not develop into meetings -- sometimes because we did not wish to pursue those coaches further and sometimes because the coach involved is happy where he is.

The conversations have been candid. We have not tried to sugarcoat the challenge of rebuilding our basketball program. Our absence for 5 consecutive years from the NCAA Tournament was noted by each coach as evidence that the program is in poor shape and will require a special effort to rebuild.

Finding a coach with the fight and fire to do this job has been a challenge. That said, we will find an excellent college coach who shares the vision of what State Basketball can become and is up for the challenge.

I realize there are multiple rumors surfacing about the nature of the search on websites and in newspapers. Once our new coach is hired, I will be in a position to bring perspective to a number of those rumors. But, right now, we need to remain focused on finding a talented collegiate coach who is a fighter, full of confidence and appreciation for the opportunity to lead our basketball program back to national prominence.

That will happen in spite of those who believe this cannot occur.

Wolfpack Basketball is destined for a revival. We will accept no less. Please keep the faith while we continue the search. Your emails and text messages of support have meant everything to me. I am blessed to be your AD.

In the Spirit of the Pack,

Debbie

She just sounds awful at her job

She sent out a release/letter defending her rep :facepalm: instantly makes it worse.  She needs to have at least one person around her willing to tell her no.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 11:26:04 AM
Meek transcribes Brando/Martin: http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-05/martin-addresses-coaching-carousel

I viewed this as a positive take, especially by someone as candid as Frank is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
rumblings Indiana has told Stevens' agent that they may fire Crean after next season and to hold out on any jobs he may be offered  :surprised:

Brad Stevens will coach there at some point.  It's simply a question of when.

Makes me sad.  I mean, there are much better jobs out there for the poor little guy.  Indiana hasn't been below average or worse for longer than current recruits have been alive.

Would be amazing to see him replace Calhoun.  

Indiana is a good job.  They just made a couple of bad hires.  It's still a blue blood.  A dormant blue blood, but it is one nonetheless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
rumblings Indiana has told Stevens' agent that they may fire Crean after next season and to hold out on any jobs he may be offered  :surprised:

Brad Stevens will coach there at some point.  It's simply a question of when.

Makes me sad.  I mean, there are much better jobs out there for the poor little guy.  Indiana hasn't been below average or worse for longer than current recruits have been alive.

Would be amazing to see him replace Calhoun. 

Indiana is a good job.  They just made a couple of bad hires.  It's still a blue blood.  A dormant blue blood, but it is one nonetheless.

Yeah, Sampson is to Indiana as Sutton was to Kentucky in some ways. Don't know if Crean = Pitino though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 05, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Why is Crean getting crap on at Indiana already? I figured their fans were more rational than that. Crean is a fantastic coach, would take.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 12:11:21 PM
btw, lol @ mu hiring a coach with ties/experience recruiting in texas, new york and florida.  couldn't have chosen anyone more eff kstatey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on April 05, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Why is Crean getting crap on at Indiana already? I figured their fans were more rational than that. Crean is a fantastic coach, would take.

indiana fans are supportive of crean. the smart ones, anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
The good news is that Miami is probably too cheap to fly a plane to even visit with Frank.


we have directs to DFW or ORD so they would only have to make one stop.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on April 05, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Why is Crean getting crap on at Indiana already? I figured their fans were more rational than that. Crean is a fantastic coach, would take.

Crean looks like someone who constantly gets the books knocked out of his hands in the hallway.  would definitely not take. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 12:17:35 PM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 12:11:21 PM
btw, lol @ mu hiring a coach with ties/experience recruiting in texas, new york and florida.  couldn't have chosen anyone more eff kstatey.

Do you think he can win at MU? I don't think he'll be worse (at least not much) than Anderson, but I don't think he'll contend for the league either.  I think his style is sort of McDermotty, but with better athletes and good oboarding, could be worse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
which cocaching job do you guys think is better:  kstarte or bama?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
Really getting tired of the which school is a better job question.

You know which is best? Whichever one will rough ridin' pay me more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
Really getting tired of the which school is a better job question.

You know which is best? Whichever one will rough ridin' pay me more.

how do ksrtate and bama shake out using your formula? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
Really getting tired of the which school is a better job question.

You know which is best? Whichever one will rough ridin' pay me more.

how do ksrtate and bama shake out using your formula? 

iirc Grant gets paid more
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

this is a good talking point.  I vote he goes for it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 05, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
But he wouldn't be able to wear his K-State boots on the sideline. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slucat on April 05, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.
:runaway:
but do they have the $$
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 05, 2011, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

this is a good talking point.  I vote he goes for it.  

I'd rather we give him the $4m with the understanding he'll buy the Miami New Times (and maybe let us use it for mass distribution of the goEMAW blog materials (and some weed/prostitution ads)).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: slucat on April 05, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.
:runaway:
but do they have the $$

Do they care enough to have the $$?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 05, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
If Frank goes to Miami I'll just become a Miami fan.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

I would say jealousy but in your scenario everyone makes the same so that doesn't even make sense. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

I would say jealousy but in your scenario everyone makes the same so that doesn't even make sense. 

forget about the hypothetical four million scenario. lets just assume that we are talking about present day earth and why someone would be against frank making more money. i don't see why someone would be against this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

I would say jealousy but in your scenario everyone makes the same so that doesn't even make sense. 

forget about the hypothetical four million scenario. lets just assume that we are talking about present day earth and why someone would be against frank making more money. i don't see why someone would be against this.

jealousy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

Limited resources. I want to be able to spend money on a good football coach when Bill dies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 05, 2011, 01:15:37 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

I would say jealousy but in your scenario everyone makes the same so that doesn't even make sense.  

forget about the hypothetical four million scenario. lets just assume that we are talking about present day earth and why someone would be against frank making more money. i don't see why someone would be against this.

jealousy

If jealousy is also what would cause an otherwise sane person to be against Denis, then I agree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

Limited resources. I want to be able to spend money on a good football coach when Bill dies.

if you think that frank making four hundred thousand a year more is somehow going to affect who kstate can attract as a fball coach after snyder retires then i'm not even sure what to tell you. i mean, how much was the bball coach making the first time snyder retired? what's that? jack crap? oh good. i bet we hit a homerun then, huh? argument denied.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 05, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
So, should we redirect the BBBS fund to the pay Frank more fund?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Okay, I'm down with paying Frank a little more . . . but we aren't in the a lot more arena yet.    

On NC State . . . lots of talk of Gary Williams poisoning the water.   But here's the deal, did Yow and Williams not get along because Yow wanted more wins, considering that Gary hasn't produced all that much since his national title run, and he's noted to have gotten lazy on recruiting, and gotten militant about the whole AAU situation?   Or is it because she's just a b_tch?   Now back in the day, I was around quite a few D1 women coaches, and I will say that most of them were psychotic b_tches (which is way beyond the typical a$$hole you get out of their male counterparts) . . . so maybe that carries forward into female athletic administrators as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:12:37 PM
Limited resources. I want to be able to spend money on a good football coach when Bill dies.

if you think that frank making four hundred thousand a year more is somehow going to affect who kstate can attract as a fball coach after snyder retires then i'm not even sure what to tell you. i mean, how much was the bball coach making the first time snyder retired? what's that? jack crap? oh good. i bet we hit a homerun then, huh? argument denied.

How the hell did we jump from 4m a year back down to 2m a year? I am totally fine with Paying Frank 1.8 - 2m a year if there are other schools pressuring the raise.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 05, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
Really getting tired of the which school is a better job question.

You know which is best? Whichever one will effing pay me more.

Frank says different.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

This would be fantastic for Frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

This would be fantastic for Frank. 

Yeah, he'd pretty much go anywhere for that much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 05, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

This would be fantastic for Frank. 

Yeah, he'd pretty much go anywhere for that much.

lol, not according to FITZ!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 05, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

This would be fantastic for Frank. 

Yeah, he'd pretty much go anywhere for that much.

Is it true that Oregon offered $3 mil for him?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 05, 2011, 01:32:18 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 05, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Doug Gottleib on 810 just said Frank will go to Miami for $2.5M to $3M.  It's home, he could coach in flip flops, and it'd be a nice eff you to the Frank haters of Miami.

This would be fantastic for Frank. 

Yeah, he'd pretty much go anywhere for that much.

Is it true that Oregon offered $3 mil for him?

No.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 05, 2011, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 05, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
So, should we redirect the BBBS fund to the pay Frank more fund?

NO!

I'm wearing my PAY FRANK shirt to tonight's BBBS AvivoPak fundraiser, which may be somewhat confusing.  I'll probably just tell people that Frank is my little bro (Sorry, Cole).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
Miami pays its football coach $2M. And Gottlieb thinks (implies?) the school would be willing to give Frank $2.5M / 3M?  :dubious:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 01:34:48 PM
I agree with everyone, we should pay Frank 4 mil. +
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
Miami pays its football coach $2M. And Gottlieb thinks (implies?) the school would be willing to give Frank $2.5M / 3M?  :dubious:

no, dumbass.  he said that is what it would take and then said they aren't paying that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
But here's the deal, did Yow and Williams not get along because Yow wanted more wins, considering that Gary hasn't produced all that much since his national title run, and he's noted to have gotten lazy on recruiting, and gotten militant about the whole AAU situation?   Or is it because she's just a b_tch?   Now back in the day, I was around quite a few D1 women coaches, and I will say that most of them were psychotic b_tches (which is way beyond the typical a$$hole you get out of their male counterparts) . . . so maybe that carries forward into female athletic administrators as well.

I'd say it's a little bit of both. Also, Yow coached back in the 70s and 80s, so she'd fit into your mold of psycho bitch coach, but now she happens to be an AD.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

I really don't understand how people can think he isn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 05, 2011, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.
"Stick to betting on things, j_rake!!!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Okay, I'm down with paying Frank a little more . . . but we aren't in the a lot more arena yet.    

On NC State . . . lots of talk of Gary Williams poisoning the water.   But here's the deal, did Yow and Williams not get along because Yow wanted more wins, considering that Gary hasn't produced all that much since his national title run, and he's noted to have gotten lazy on recruiting, and gotten militant about the whole AAU situation?   Or is it because she's just a b_tch?   Now back in the day, I was around quite a few D1 women coaches, and I will say that most of them were psychotic b_tches (which is way beyond the typical a$$hole you get out of their male counterparts) . . . so maybe that carries forward into female athletic administrators as well.

I'm a little confused about the Debbie Yow hate because it seems rooted from her issues with Williams, but everyone hates Gary Williams too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 05, 2011, 01:44:56 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
Miami pays its football coach $2M. And Gottlieb thinks (implies?) the school would be willing to give Frank $2.5M / 3M?  :dubious:

no, dumbass.  he said that is what it would take and then said they aren't paying that.

I thought the same thing.  Thanks for 'plaining it to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Finally, it's done. RT @danwiederer: Confirmed: it is Mark Gottfriend that is the new NC State men's basketball coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

whenever he gets all giddy that someone's going to be mean to Frank or something bad is going to happen to the ksu cats he kind of shits the bed on twitter.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Finally, it's done. RT @danwiederer: Confirmed: it is Mark Gottfriend that is the new NC State men's basketball coach.

My God.  If this is what it's come to, we need to be willing to pay Frank way more than he's worth.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Finally, it's done. RT @danwiederer: Confirmed: it is Mark Gottfriend that is the new NC State men's basketball coach.

My God.  If this is what it's come to, we need to be willing to pay Frank way more than he's worth.

Anyone else willing to pay money to know exactly how many candidates/agents told NCSU "um, no way."?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 01:50:13 PM
somebody buy the url "www.goemah.com" just in case. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spaces on April 05, 2011, 01:59:19 PM
Gottfried  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2011, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
Miami pays its football coach $2M. And Gottlieb thinks (implies?) the school would be willing to give Frank $2.5M / 3M?  :dubious:



The context was that it'd take that much for him to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 05, 2011, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

I really don't understand how people can think he isn't.

Can't pay him more than Bill
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 02:12:38 PM
So the league coaching salaries look something like this: (give or take depending on the source)

Self 3.6 mil
Barnes 2.2 mil
Kruger 2.2 mil
Ford 1.8 mil
Turgeon 1.6 mil
Frank 1.55 mil
Haith 1.5 mil
Drew .9 mil
Hoiberg .9 mil
Gillispie .8 mil
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

The sad thing is, I actually recorded the Brando/Frank interview and had the benefit of playing back the tape — and STILL misheard the quote. But I deserve a free pass on the Gottlieb goof, since I didn't actually listen to that. I was going by the context provided in this thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 02:12:38 PM
So the league coaching salaries look something like this: (give or take depending on the source)

Self 3.6 mil
Barnes 2.2 mil
Kruger 2.2 mil
Ford 1.8 mil
Turgeon 1.6 mil
Frank 1.55 mil
Haith 1.5 mil
Drew .9 mil
Hoiberg .9 mil
Gillispie .8 mil


by using that list, Frank obviously deserves to be somewhere between Ford and Kruger. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 05, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
Ever see the movie GROUNDHOG DAY? dudes, this is starting to become this thread!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 05, 2011, 02:16:05 PM
oscar Pearl will love manhattan.  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 02:12:38 PM
So the league coaching salaries look something like this: (give or take depending on the source)

Self 3.6 mil
Barnes 2.2 mil
Kruger 2.2 mil
Ford 1.8 mil
Turgeon 1.6 mil
Frank 1.55 mil
Haith 1.5 mil
Drew .9 mil
Hoiberg .9 mil
Gillispie .8 mil


that drew number is not correct.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 05, 2011, 02:17:27 PM
bitb doing a brilliant job talking up haith and destroying the miami job in the same monologue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wazucat on April 05, 2011, 02:19:30 PM
When wearing my Powercat in Washington state, comments from total strangers will invariably start with one of two subjects,  LHC Bill Snyder or "that coach" referring to Martin, most people don't know his name but definitely his persona, these two men are the face of my University to millions of otherwise unaware heathens, I say pay Martin whatever we can afford and slap on the huge buyout clauses suggested.  Its hard to put a price on the good publicity those two men bring in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SleepFighter on April 05, 2011, 02:19:49 PM
Big 12 coaches must be ecstatic that Boyle and Doc aren't dragging down the median salary anymore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
that drew number is not correct.

Hard to pin down since they don't have to release to the public. I saw closer to .5 mil, but he also got a new deal after their run last year I believe. In any case, I don't think its up there in the middle.

Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
by using that list, Frank obviously deserves to be somewhere between Ford and Kruger.  

Yes, even if Ford is way overpaid (and his is).

I would be good if Frank was at 1.8-1.9 mil.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 05, 2011, 02:23:12 PM
As with any person in HR, or ADJC in our case, it's their job to retain personnel at the absolute minimum while keeping them content. It's also their job to know what that number is, which includes just enough to scare away other suitors. If that number is what Frank's current pay is, then so be it, no need to pay him more. If KSU needs to bump it up to meet a new number, then so be it. I don't believe that number to be more than $2M by any stretch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 05, 2011, 02:17:27 PM
bitb doing a brilliant job talking up haith and destroying the miami job in the same monologue.

He IS the BITB.  He is seamless and rough.  He is wicked and kind.  He is melodramatic while being serious and he always keeps you tuned in for more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 05, 2011, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

I really don't understand how people can think he isn't.

Can't pay him more than Bill

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
Quote
theprogramkc The Program
Being told by people close to Jeff Capel... That he says reports of him being on the MU staff are "untrue".

Haith to MU would be less palatable without Capel in tow, imo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 05, 2011, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

I really don't understand how people can think he isn't.

Can't pay him more than Bill

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Yeah, eff that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
that drew number is not correct.

Hard to pin down since they don't have to release to the public. I saw closer to .5 mil, but he also got a new deal after their run last year I believe. In any case, I don't think its up there in the middle.

Quote from: OK_Cat on April 05, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
by using that list, Frank obviously deserves to be somewhere between Ford and Kruger.  

Yes, even if Ford is way overpaid (and his is).

I would be good if Frank was at 1.8-1.9 mil.

it's higher than .9.

i bet it's middle 1's.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
BITB saying that the best person for the Miami job in Manhattan is not Frank Martin. He says it's...


Brad Underwood. Because he recruits the area and has won at the juco ranks.


'I wouldn't want to raise my kids in Miami...'

BITB, folks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

The sad thing is, I actually recorded the Brando/Frank interview and had the benefit of playing back the tape — and STILL misheard the quote. But I deserve a free pass on the Gottlieb goof, since I didn't actually listen to that. I was going by the context provided in this thread.

you got too excited and heard what you wanted to hear.  it happens to the best of us (not me).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

The sad thing is, I actually recorded the Brando/Frank interview and had the benefit of playing back the tape — and STILL misheard the quote. But I deserve a free pass on the Gottlieb goof, since I didn't actually listen to that. I was going by the context provided in this thread.

you got too excited and heard what you wanted to hear.  it happens to the best of us (not me).

yeah, ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2011, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Quote
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Finally, it's done. RT @danwiederer: Confirmed: it is Mark Gottfriend that is the new NC State men's basketball coach.

The carousel ride isn't nearly as fun when they hire non employed head coaches.  Did some research on him in regards to his last gig at bama, is it really that tacky to try to steal a recruit after the original coach dies ?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 05, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 05, 2011, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
I don't think the point in the current pay Frank discussion is how much we can afford, I think its whether or not people think he's worth paying in the upper 1/3 of Big 12 coaching salaries. I think he is.

I really don't understand how people can think he isn't.

Can't pay him more than Bill

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Really hoping you mean Bill Self.  We should pay Snyder $0 to not coach football anymore, and a healthy wage to be some bullshit university ambassador or something just to keep 'tucks appeased.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
it would be hilarious to pay frank more than snyder and then tell snyder no after he asks for more money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 05, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
it would be hilarious in our best interests to pay frank more than snyder and then tell snyder no after he asks for more money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 05, 2011, 03:55:10 PM
'Tucks daily to do list

1. Tuck in shirt
2. Do things "the right way"
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Make sure Snyder is paid more than Frank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

The sad thing is, I actually recorded the Brando/Frank interview and had the benefit of playing back the tape — and STILL misheard the quote. But I deserve a free pass on the Gottlieb goof, since I didn't actually listen to that. I was going by the context provided in this thread.

you got too excited and heard what you wanted to hear.  it happens to the best of us (not me).

I wasn't excited at all.  :blank:

Excitement is when Frank leaves.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F8922%2Fpartyvm.gif&hash=f81a184f872c598a812bc2827ecde5fef3ed935c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 05, 2011, 04:14:17 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 05, 2011, 03:55:10 PM
'Tucks daily to do list

1. Tuck in shirt
2. Do things "the right way"
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Make sure Snyder is paid more than Frank

If you do nothing else, make sure you do number four!


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 05, 2011, 04:22:49 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
it would be hilarious to pay frank more than snyder and then tell snyder no after he asks for more money.

Well, if we are going to think of amazingly sweet hypotheticals that won't come true, then I'd like to add that when we tell Snyder no, we tell him that we are saving up for the next football coach.

Best part is that if he was REALLY back to CALM THE WATERS, he'd agree to that.  But.....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
j rake has been a disaster today when it comes to talk radio.

The sad thing is, I actually recorded the Brando/Frank interview and had the benefit of playing back the tape — and STILL misheard the quote. But I deserve a free pass on the Gottlieb goof, since I didn't actually listen to that. I was going by the context provided in this thread.

you got too excited and heard what you wanted to hear.  it happens to the best of us (not me).

I wasn't excited at all.  :blank:

Excitement is when Frank leaves.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F8922%2Fpartyvm.gif&hash=f81a184f872c598a812bc2827ecde5fef3ed935c)


good luck bro!  :drool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Whale on April 05, 2011, 04:26:21 PM
Actual reporting from Kellis (and excellent commenting by doom) on his blog http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/05/frank-martin-eligible-for-contract-extension/ (http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/05/frank-martin-eligible-for-contract-extension/):

Quote
...that he is eligible for an extension.

The contract, signed in April 2010, lists specific criteria that can trigger the negotiation of a new contract. They include K-State advancing to the Sweet 16, earning a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, finishing in a tie for third or better in the Big 12 regular season standings, winning the Big 12 Tournament or Martin winning Big 12 or National Coach of the Year honors before the conclusion of the 2011-12 season.

By finishing 10-6 in conference play this season, and tying with Texas A&M for third, Martin has met that criteria.

According to contract language, Martin and K-State athletic director John Currie are now supposed to, “agree to negotiate in good faith from April 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012 a modification, extension, or revised employment agreement.”

If they fail to reach an agreement during that negotiation period, the amount of Martin’s buyout, which is currently $1,000,000 shall immediately become $500,000.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 04:36:12 PM
i'd wait to see who transfers and who is brought in before negotiating in good faith.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2011, 04:37:42 PM
I think this is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?  This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) right?

Quote from: The Whale on April 05, 2011, 04:26:21 PM
Actual reporting from Kellis (and excellent commenting by doom) on his blog http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/05/frank-martin-eligible-for-contract-extension/ (http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/05/frank-martin-eligible-for-contract-extension/):

Quote
...that he is eligible for an extension.

The contract, signed in April 2010, lists specific criteria that can trigger the negotiation of a new contract. They include K-State advancing to the Sweet 16, earning a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, finishing in a tie for third or better in the Big 12 regular season standings, winning the Big 12 Tournament or Martin winning Big 12 or National Coach of the Year honors before the conclusion of the 2011-12 season.

By finishing 10-6 in conference play this season, and tying with Texas A&M for third, Martin has met that criteria.

According to contract language, Martin and K-State athletic director John Currie are now supposed to, “agree to negotiate in good faith from April 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012 a modification, extension, or revised employment agreement.”

If they fail to reach an agreement during that negotiation period, the amount of Martin’s buyout, which is currently $1,000,000 shall immediately become $500,000.

Can't anyone renegotiate at any time ever?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
forget about the hypothetical four million scenario. lets just assume that we are talking about present day earth and why someone would be against frank making more money. i don't see why someone would be against this.

higher ticket prices, more briggs logos.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 05, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 05, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
can someone who doesn't think/want martin to be paid a little more explain why? because personally, i could care less if frank makes 4 million. actually i'd love for him to make four million. i'd love for everyone in the world to make four million. why should i care if he makes more money? i don't. pay him whatever it takes to keep him and then get rid of him if he starts sucking. not that hard. the amount of money that he makes, especially when we're talking about a few hundred thousand a year, does not affect me whatsoever. i am affected if he leaves.
no reason to pay him more imo. and i also disagree that everyone should make $4m per.

ok. let's say that this is actually true. i don't believe it to be, but for arguments sake we will say that there is no reason at all to pay frank more money. none at all. that still doesn't explain why someone would be against it. is there a reason to not pay him more that i'm missing out on?

I would say jealousy but in your scenario everyone makes the same so that doesn't even make sense.  

forget about the hypothetical four million scenario. lets just assume that we are talking about present day earth and why someone would be against frank making more money. i don't see why someone would be against this.
i think he makes too much already, not sure how you can even begin to try justify him making as much as he does.  sad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Kellis Robinett
With speculation flying from media and fans in both south Florida and Kansas that Miami will likely show interest in Martin to replace departed coach Frank Haith

Speculation is not "flying" in South Florida. There are about 75 posts (over a three-day period) on a Canes message board. There has been nothing written in the newspaper, at least from what I've seen. There's been a blog post or two — but nothing with substance.

Dan Le Batard talked about Frank Martin on his show yesterday but after three minutes moved on to more interesting topics, like a white woman giving birth to a black child while her white husband ( :horrorsurprise:) freaked.

I have been listening to Miami radio all day today. Frank Martin's name has been mentioned exactly zero times.

Man, oh man. That Kellis sure is a pot stirrer.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
"with speculation flying between disgruntled ex-media and minor kstate themed internet media personalities..."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 04:37:42 PM
I think this is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?  This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) right?


Can't anyone renegotiate at any time ever?

Yeah, but it doesn't mean something comes out of it. This way the contract either changes someway in negotiations or his buyout is cut. That is unless Currie and Martin meet and both agree the contract is fine as is and move on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: NoDakCat on April 05, 2011, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 05, 2011, 03:55:10 PM
'Tucks daily to do list

1. Tuck in shirt
2. Do things "the right way"
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Make sure Snyder is paid more than Frank

Ha
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 05, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 04:37:42 PM
I think this is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?  This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) right?

Can't anyone renegotiate at any time ever?

Yeah, but it doesn't mean something comes out of it. This way the contract either changes someway in negotiations or his buyout is cut. That is unless Currie and Martin meet and both agree the contract is fine as is and move on.


Right.  You can renegotiate at any time, but KSU is obligated to renegotiate now, and if the parties fail to reach a new agreement, Martin's buy-out gets halved on June 1 [2011, I assume it means].  (This is according to how Kellis reports the contract, not my own research.)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 05:00:52 PM
ACCSports ACC Sports
Yow - I have a reputation of not getting along with Gary Williams, who has tried to sabotage this search. #shotsfired
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 05, 2011, 05:00:52 PM
ACCSports ACC Sports
Yow - I have a reputation of not getting along with Gary Williams, who has tried to sabotage this search. #shotsfired


lol.  her letter was lol too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
I have been listening to Miami radio all day today.

LOL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
I have been listening to Miami radio all day today.

LOL

I always listen to Miami and Chicago radio. KC radio is terrible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 05:38:05 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6297427&ex_cid=nhffromfb

Nothing new. Talks about the interview with Brando.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
better coaching gig:  st johns or bama?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 05, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 05, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
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j_rake Jeffrey Rake
Frank Martin: "I'm at K-State right now because I haven't had opportunities to make more money elsewhere." #outofcontext
9 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:frown:


Quote
ejwestksu Eric Westerman

@j_rake Actually, that's the exact opposite of what Martin said. He's at K-State despite having opportunities for raises elsewhere.

heh

cover for when he leaves: he'll say, "it wasn't for the money.  how many times have i turned down better paying jobs before?  you know?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2011, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 05, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 05, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
it would be hilarious in our best interests to pay frank more than snyder and then tell snyder no after he asks for more money.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
can anyone read the insider rumor on espn?  any new info or other candidates not mentioned here?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
can anyone read the insider rumor on espn?  any new info or other candidates not mentioned here?

Quote
Update: UCF head coach Donnie Jones and Florida State assistant Stan Jones are two others rumored to be candidates for the Miami opening.

Donnie Jones jumped out to a quick start in his first season at UCF and led the Knights to a 21-12 record. But as the Orlando Sentinel points out, there is some question as to how much better of a job the Miami job would be. He already has a good thing going at UCF and is set to return sophomore guard Marcus Jordan and sophomore forward Keith Clanton.

Stan Jones has previous experience coaching at Miami and could be a viable candidate for the job, having served as a Hurricanes assistant under Leonard Hamilton from 1996-2000. He then followed Hamilton to the Washington Wizards for one season before joining him again when he was hired at FSU.

---

As we explained earlier, Kansas State coach Frank Martin appears to be a perfect fit for the Miami (Fla.) coaching vacancy (which should open up when the news of Frank Haith to Missouri becomes official). However, is it really the best fit for Martin? Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State. Also, with what Martin has established in Manhattan, would he want to take a job that clearly does not have a similarly excited fan base.

*********

Adam Zagoria of ZagsBlog.com tweeted late Sunday that, according to a Division-I source, "Miami is Frank Martin's 'dream job.'"

Sun Sentinel sports writer Dave Hyde writes this morning that the Kansas State coach is "the obvious, first rumor at the new guy."

Hyde adds: "On one level he fits the bill: A Miami guy, a Cuban-American, a coach who's won at Kansas State. There also are some questions about how he carries himself and runs a program to be answered."

One potential sticking point could be whether the Miami administration is willing to go from someone like Frank Haith, viewed as an all-around likable person, to a more fiery and intense coach like Martin.

- Joe Kaiser
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 08:48:12 PM
rake is quickly becoming the king of butthurt media.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 05, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Martin would pay $250K ($1M -> $750K) less if he waits until the 15th [EDIT]of April 2012[/EDIT] to leave

EDIT: oops
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2011, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 05, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Martin would pay $250K ($1M -> $750K) less if he waits until the 15th to leave

April 15, 2012.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
Twitter still pushing the "frank is interested in Miami". 

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 05, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
At first I was nervous, then I thought about it a bit and wasn't, now after a couple of days with no word from Frank, I am  :ohno:
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 05, 2011, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 05, 2011, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 05, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Martin would pay $250K ($1M -> $750K) less if he waits until the 15th to leave

April 15, 2012.

thx 4 the correction  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
Twitter still pushing the "frank is interested in Miami". 

 :dubious:

as in one guy and everyone retweeting it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 05, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
Twitter still pushing the "frank is interested in Miami". 

 :dubious:

as in one guy and everyone retweeting it.

Just a few guys and not huge names either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State.

lol.

good lord, is there anyone at Rivals who's any good at anything? seriously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State.

lol.

good lord, is there anyone at Rivals who's any good at anything? seriously.

also, huge ku fan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2011, 09:26:25 PM
Funny seeing dudes on twitter fighting over the Capel to Mizzou rumors
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 05, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
At first I was nervous, then I thought about it a bit and wasn't, now after a couple of days with no word from Frank, I am  :ohno:
 :runaway:


There isn't anything to talk about.  Considering the fact that Miami has no real AD, my guess is that this isn't going to be a quick search, nor are they going to be able to get a lot of money together quickly to make a play for a buyout, hire our staff, etc.  Basically, they're giving Currie all of the time in the world to contact Frank, have "the talk" about Miami that we all knew would eventually happen, and he's go time to listen to Katz and figure out what his next step is.

I don't have any fears because John Currie vs. Interim AD probably has a pretty big strategic advantage.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
shirt tucks now freaking out at some magically fabricated "report" that Miami will offer Frank $2.5M.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2011, 09:46:24 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
shirt tucks now freaking out at some magically fabricated "report" that Miami will offer Frank $2.5M.

:facepalm:

Would be fantastic for Frank.

Makes me want to move to Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
shirt tucks now freaking out at some magically fabricated "report" that Miami will offer Frank $2.5M.

:facepalm:

Can we get someone with real graphic arts skills fabricate an ESPN report with said information?

Once that's there, I'll use the 7-day free trial that I've been saving for such an occasion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
shirt tucks now freaking out at some magically fabricated "report" that Miami will offer Frank $2.5M.

:facepalm:

Can we get someone with real graphic arts skills fabricate an ESPN report with said information?

Once that's there, I'll use the 7-day free trial that I've been saving for such an occasion.

aren't you an active tuck infiltrator already?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State.

lol.

good lord, is there anyone at Rivals who's any good at anything? seriously.

bossi is fantastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
shirt tucks now freaking out at some magically fabricated "report" that Miami will offer Frank $2.5M.

:facepalm:

Can we get someone with real graphic arts skills fabricate an ESPN report with said information?

Once that's there, I'll use the 7-day free trial that I've been saving for such an occasion.

aren't you an active tuck infiltrator already?

I dive into kstatefans.com on occasion to get my monthly dose of stupid, but that's all I have access to.  I don't have access to GPC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 05, 2011, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 05, 2011, 10:04:47 PM
I dive into kstatefans.com on occasion to get my monthly dose of stupid, but that's all I have access to.  I don't have access to GPC.

wish i had back the money i stupidly wasted there since '04.  Thanks to yahoo for taking over so i have access to videos for free
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 05, 2011, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on April 05, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM
Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State.

lol.

good lord, is there anyone at Rivals who's any good at anything? seriously.


Well if you count Fat Fitz, he's pretty good at convincing a bunch of dipshits into giving him $10 a month
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 05, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 05, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
At first I was nervous, then I thought about it a bit and wasn't, now after a couple of days with no word from Frank, I am  :ohno:
 :runaway:


hopefully he's just setting up to Painter us
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 05, 2011, 11:08:51 PM
not sure why someone hasn't posted this:

Martin addresses coaching carousel
A couple excerpts from Frank Martin's interview this morning on Tim Brando's radio show:

Brando: Your name keeps popping up with Vegas, it's popping up a little bit with Miami. Frank, are you involved at all with any other jobs or is K-State where you are going to be for quite some time?

Martin: "No one has called me, Tim. I've got a great job. I work with great people. I look at it like this: 10 years ago as we speak, I was a Division I unemployed assistant basketball coach collecting no paychecks, having no idea how I was going to pay my rent or my son's daycare bill. Ten years later, I'm at a great place. If people want to throw our name out there, I look at that as a compliment and I look at that as being lucky and fortunate that I'm in a good place right now and that people out there respect what we've done.
"But, I haven't talked to anybody. In this business, it's hard to ever sit back and say 'never say never,' because then you get called a liar. I have a tough time lying. It's not what I do. But I'm extremely happy. I'm not going to tell you there's never going to be change, but I'm at peace where I'm at right now."
Brando: "You're at a place that gives a damn, and I think that's important to coaches. They work for people who really do care about their program ... Sometimes the grass isn't always greener, is it?"
Martin: "I'm not one to brag. I rarely speak about myself or opportunities I've had. I'm not at Kansas State right now because I haven't had opportunities to make more money elsewhere. I'm at Kansas State right now because of what you're talking about. We've got an incredible community. It's a great university. I remember getting here five years ago and everyone saying, 'Why are you guys going there? Why would you go there?'
"In my five years here, I continue to learn about the incredible history and tradition of this basketball program. It's our mission to continue to build it and hopefully be able to get back to the level it had once upon a time."

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 05, 2011, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 05, 2011, 11:08:51 PM
not sure why someone hasn't posted this
Because they have....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HawaiiCat on April 05, 2011, 11:39:24 PM
It's pretty much the same speech huggins liked to recite. Add the thing about kansas people being like west virginia folk, and the rest is the same. Didn't say he's interested, and didn't say he's not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Quote
wonders why Chris did not ask his friend Wildcat about this one before writing his column, especially when you were warned about how to fill out your NCAA bracket regarding KSU. It appears all Iowa eyes are on Martin when KSU plays. Martin is a real sideshow. Martin and Dalonte Hill are pretty fair recruiters but Brad Underwood and to a lesser degree, Matt Figurs, do most of the coaching. Underwood had to beg and beg Martin to change the offense at midseason. Martin specifically coaches post players and they have been a dismal failure. Hill recruits, fathers children, and drinks to excess.

This is one Wildcat that would be thrilled if Martin and Hill took their act to Miami. Hopefully the AD, John Currie, would immediately hire Underwood as head coach. Underwood is a KSU grad that was a head coach at the juco level in Florida until Bob Huggins wisely hired him as his primary X & O assistant coach. Both Huggins and Martin have used Underwood in a like manner that Fred Hoiberg uses Bobby Lutz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 06, 2011, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Quote
wonders why Chris did not ask his friend Wildcat about this one before writing his column, especially when you were warned about how to fill out your NCAA bracket regarding KSU. It appears all Iowa eyes are on Martin when KSU plays. Martin is a real sideshow. Martin and Dalonte Hill are pretty fair recruiters but Brad Underwood and to a lesser degree, Matt Figurs, do most of the coaching. Underwood had to beg and beg Martin to change the offense at midseason. Martin specifically coaches post players and they have been a dismal failure. Hill recruits, fathers children, and drinks to excess.

This is one Wildcat that would be thrilled if Martin and Hill took their act to Miami. Hopefully the AD, John Currie, would immediately hire Underwood as head coach. Underwood is a KSU grad that was a head coach at the juco level in Florida until Bob Huggins wisely hired him as his primary X & O assistant coach. Both Huggins and Martin have used Underwood in a like manner that Fred Hoiberg uses Bobby Lutz.
:horrorsurprise: :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Quote
wonders why Chris did not ask his friend Wildcat about this one before writing his column, especially when you were warned about how to fill out your NCAA bracket regarding KSU. It appears all Iowa eyes are on Martin when KSU plays. Martin is a real sideshow. Martin and Dalonte Hill are pretty fair recruiters but Brad Underwood and to a lesser degree, Matt Figurs, do most of the coaching. Underwood had to beg and beg Martin to change the offense at midseason. Martin specifically coaches post players and they have been a dismal failure. Hill recruits, fathers children, and drinks to excess.

This is one Wildcat that would be thrilled if Martin and Hill took their act to Miami. Hopefully the AD, John Currie, would immediately hire Underwood as head coach. Underwood is a KSU grad that was a head coach at the juco level in Florida until Bob Huggins wisely hired him as his primary X & O assistant coach. Both Huggins and Martin have used Underwood in a like manner that Fred Hoiberg uses Bobby Lutz.
where did you read that rough ridin' piece of crap at?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 06, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Quote
wonders why Chris did not ask his friend Wildcat about this one before writing his column, especially when you were warned about how to fill out your NCAA bracket regarding KSU. It appears all Iowa eyes are on Martin when KSU plays. Martin is a real sideshow. Martin and Dalonte Hill are pretty fair recruiters but Brad Underwood and to a lesser degree, Matt Figurs, do most of the coaching. Underwood had to beg and beg Martin to change the offense at midseason. Martin specifically coaches post players and they have been a dismal failure. Hill recruits, fathers children, and drinks to excess.

This is one Wildcat that would be thrilled if Martin and Hill took their act to Miami. Hopefully the AD, John Currie, would immediately hire Underwood as head coach. Underwood is a KSU grad that was a head coach at the juco level in Florida until Bob Huggins wisely hired him as his primary X & O assistant coach. Both Huggins and Martin have used Underwood in a like manner that Fred Hoiberg uses Bobby Lutz.
where did you read that rough ridin' piece of crap at?

Pretty much the oppo of BITB today. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.

I really appreciate that Frank isn't jacking us around. He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying. The process will play out, I think its highly likely he stays, but you never know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 07:12:18 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Quote
wonders why Chris did not ask his friend Wildcat about this one before writing his column, especially when you were warned about how to fill out your NCAA bracket regarding KSU. It appears all Iowa eyes are on Martin when KSU plays. Martin is a real sideshow. Martin and Dalonte Hill are pretty fair recruiters but Brad Underwood and to a lesser degree, Matt Figurs, do most of the coaching. Underwood had to beg and beg Martin to change the offense at midseason. Martin specifically coaches post players and they have been a dismal failure. Hill recruits, fathers children, and drinks to excess.

This is one Wildcat that would be thrilled if Martin and Hill took their act to Miami. Hopefully the AD, John Currie, would immediately hire Underwood as head coach. Underwood is a KSU grad that was a head coach at the juco level in Florida until Bob Huggins wisely hired him as his primary X & O assistant coach. Both Huggins and Martin have used Underwood in a like manner that Fred Hoiberg uses Bobby Lutz.

jfc
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 06, 2011, 07:19:58 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying.

That's the approach I'm trying to take as I continue my negotiations with gpc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.

I really appreciate that Frank isn't jacking us around. He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying. The process will play out, I think its highly likely he stays, but you never know.
I'm starting to wonder if Frank even has a choice. I know he has had in the past, but is Miami even seriously considering him? I  think they are idiots if they are not, but it wouldn't surprise me by the little amount he's being talked about down there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.

I really appreciate that Frank isn't jacking us around. He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying. The process will play out, I think its highly likely he stays, but you never know.
I'm starting to wonder if Frank even has a choice. I know he has had in the past, but is Miami even seriously considering him? I  think they are idiots if they are not, but it wouldn't surprise me by the little amount he's being talked about down there.

Miami has contacted Katz, I have no doubts about that. I'm sure there has even been some talk back and forth, and probably with K-State as well. Honestly, Frank would be dumb not to have Katz have discussions with open jobs. I don't expect Frank to have some sort of blind loyalty and I'd actually be disappointed if he did.  I'm just glad Katz doesn't have a history of using to various media members to play the game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 06, 2011, 08:25:18 AM
I'm pretty sure Brad Underwood coaches our bigs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 08:27:25 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 06, 2011, 08:25:18 AM
I'm pretty sure Brad Underwood coaches our bigs.

if you're trying to disagree with the guy who wants frank and daylonte to go to miami so that underwood can take over, this isn't the place to do it.  sorry bub.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 06, 2011, 08:42:35 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Believe It or Not: NBA Coach Larry Brown has shown interest in the UM Basketball job. There is a list and he is on it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 06, 2011, 08:50:36 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 08:27:25 AM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 06, 2011, 08:25:18 AM
I'm pretty sure Brad Underwood coaches our bigs.

if you're trying to disagree with the guy who wants frank and daylonte to go to miami so that underwood can take over, this isn't the place to do it.  sorry bub.

lol...nope just pointing it out
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.

I really appreciate that Frank isn't jacking us around. He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying. The process will play out, I think its highly likely he stays, but you never know.
I'm starting to wonder if Frank even has a choice. I know he has had in the past, but is Miami even seriously considering him? I  think they are idiots if they are not, but it wouldn't surprise me by the little amount he's being talked about down there.

Miami has contacted Katz, I have no doubts about that. I'm sure there has even been some talk back and forth, and probably with K-State as well. Honestly, Frank would be dumb not to have Katz have discussions with open jobs. I don't expect Frank to have some sort of blind loyalty and I'd actually be disappointed if he did.  I'm just glad Katz doesn't have a history of using to various media members to play the game.
If Miami has contacted Katz, then ok. I alsoo agree that if they have contacted Katz, then they would be dumb not to "listen" even if Frank knows he's not interested. Just wouldn't be blown away if the reach out from Miami to Frank has been a small one....or even non-existant.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:09:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
frank, or any non dumbass coach, isn't going to say he's not going to consider another job. don't be naive people.

I really appreciate that Frank isn't jacking us around. He and his agent are playing the game like all coaches do, but aren't giving us some silly line about staying. The process will play out, I think its highly likely he stays, but you never know.
I'm starting to wonder if Frank even has a choice. I know he has had in the past, but is Miami even seriously considering him? I  think they are idiots if they are not, but it wouldn't surprise me by the little amount he's being talked about down there.

Miami has contacted Katz, I have no doubts about that. I'm sure there has even been some talk back and forth, and probably with K-State as well. Honestly, Frank would be dumb not to have Katz have discussions with open jobs. I don't expect Frank to have some sort of blind loyalty and I'd actually be disappointed if he did.  I'm just glad Katz doesn't have a history of using to various media members to play the game.
If Miami has contacted Katz, then ok. I alsoo agree that if they have contacted Katz, then they would be dumb not to "listen" even if Frank knows he's not interested. Just wouldn't be blown away if the reach out from Miami to Frank has been a small one....or even non-existant.

The thing is, if they reach out and Frank isn't interested, and that gets out, then it's perceived as an even worse job.  It behooves both parties to keep things discreet, at least involving Frank.*

* - talking point stolen from Gottleib
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 09:30:31 AM
It's in Frank's best interest to make everyone think he's interested (regardless of if he is or isn't) and that miami is going to pony up cash (whether they are or aren't). 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?
No.  Haith was making 1.5 million.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?
No.  Haith was making 1.5 million.

I think there was some dispute as to this
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?
No.  Haith was making 1.5 million.

I think there was some dispute as to this

I think the 1.5 Million figure is with perks added, not cold hard cash. Martin is making around 1.7 1.8 mill with perks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?
No.  Haith was making 1.5 million.

I think there was some dispute as to this

Yes. I think its more likely Haith was making less than 1 mil.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 06wildcat on April 06, 2011, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Were they really only paying Haithe 600K annually?
No.  Haith was making 1.5 million.

I think there was some dispute as to this

Yes. I think its more likely Haith was making less than 1 mil.

As I understood it, Haith was making $600k but it would cost Miami $3 million to terminate his contract this year, which is really why they were going to wait until next year to drop the hammer. And it was pretty obvious that he was going to be fired since he only had 2 years on his contract and there were not discussions of an extension.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:05:50 AM
3.0 over two remaining years.  haith was well paid.  no idea how the 600k rumor got started.  maybe what he was paid when he started seven years ago.  martin actually made 1.3ish this year, the 1.55 number you always see is the average of his contract, and includes all his signing and retention bonuses.

miami's a.d. budget is over 60 million.  they aren't poor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
It looks like he had an escalating contract that started at 400k and incrementally increased by 50k annually.  He was set to make 650k next season from what I can gather.  I guess I find it hard to believe he had upwards of 1.1 million in additional incentives.  I also doubt his top assistant was making 450k.

The amount of wealth amongst some of the prominent Miami alumni is pretty amazing and I guess they could empty the coffers for the right guy, but I just don't see how this adds up financially.




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:15:16 AM
Haith said in his press conf yesterday that he worked there a year and still had a hard time getting into his office because no one recognized him. 

If this is true, and not just some butthurtcoach, doubt any coffers will be emptied out for a BB coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
It looks like he had an escalating contract that started at 400k and incrementally increased by 50k annually.  He was set to make 650k next season from what I can gather.

link.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

wut
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

Is this a response to something above, or a warning of something to come?  If it is a warning, you need to just spill it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

lol, stormnut?  stormnut is going to break this story?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 06, 2011, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

lol, stormnut?  stormnut is going to break this story?

nope but Ballplayers is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

lol, stormnut?  stormnut is going to break this story?

nope but Ballplayers is.

"Folks, we have a high Pressure system is moving in."   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 06, 2011, 11:27:28 AM
Oh boy........here we go
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 06, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
All K-State message boards are about to go Fukishima. NRC has been advised.

lol, stormnut?  stormnut is going to break this story?

nope but Ballplayers is.

"Folks, we have a low Pressure system is moving in."   :ohno:

FYP
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:28:26 AM
Yeah, looks like about 1.2 annually according to this.  

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-04-04/sports/fl-hyde-frank-haith-miami-mizzou-20110404_1_frank-haith-university-of-miami-job-donna-shalala (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-04-04/sports/fl-hyde-frank-haith-miami-mizzou-20110404_1_frank-haith-university-of-miami-job-donna-shalala)

I was pulling some those other numbers from a cached article.  Probably not accurate...

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
I don't like BBS foreplay when it comes to topics like this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:29:49 AM
Ballplayers a few days ago:

"NO"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
BP's "Miami contacts". pffttt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 06, 2011, 11:30:31 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dineouthere.com%2Fimages%2Fdennys-restaurant.jpg&hash=2aeb80b3a9119167a556036aba5259daef4085bf)

moons over my hammy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
It looks like he had an escalating contract that started at 400k and incrementally increased by 50k annually.  He was set to make 650k next season from what I can gather.

link.

Its hard to find much detail, probably because Miami is a private school. All the articles about him leaving did mention 3 mil and 2 years left, but I'm not sure that meant 1.5 mil per year.

I did find this while trying to find more details:

Quote
oscar Pearl would be exciting, but he's still crouching around under the anvil of an NCAA investigation. Miami President Donna Shalala has no time for shady dealings, or even the suggestion of poor institutional control.

That's why Kansas State's Frank Martin has no logical chance at coaching the Hurricanes. He's a Cuban-American from Miami and a proven winner, which is cool, but he also had one of his state titles at powerhouse Miami Senior High School vacated because five star players allegedly lived in other districts.

And the BP post is a bit concerning, by my _FANpomloseFrank% is still less than 30%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
It looks like he had an escalating contract that started at 400k and incrementally increased by 50k annually.  He was set to make 650k next season from what I can gather.

link.

Its hard to find much detail, probably because Miami is a private school. All the articles about him leaving did mention 3 mil and 2 years left, but I'm not sure that meant 1.5 mil per year.

I did find this while trying to find more details:

Quote
oscar Pearl would be exciting, but he's still crouching around under the anvil of an NCAA investigation. Miami President Donna Shalala has no time for shady dealings, or even the suggestion of poor institutional control.

That's why Kansas State's Frank Martin has no logical chance at coaching the Hurricanes. He's a Cuban-American from Miami and a proven winner, which is cool, but he also had one of his state titles at powerhouse Miami Senior High School vacated because five star players allegedly lived in other districts.

And the BP post is a bit concerning, by my _FANpomloseFrank% is still less than 30%.

That is up 20% from previous worry levels.   :ohno:

Can someone paste the BP posts?  TIA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:33:25 AM
BallPlayers

Post #2460
garrett, indiana
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my Miami contacts...   Reply
...were not confident on Monday about "getting" Frank!

Wednesday, they are much more confident,
I cannot tell IF it is their "wishful thinking" ... or facts???

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:33:25 AM
BallPlayers

Post #2460
garrett, indiana
MyFanPage
Add Buddy   
my Miami contacts...   Reply
...were not confident on Monday about "getting" Frank!

Wednesday, they are much more confident,
I cannot tell IF it is their "wishful thinking" ... or facts???

Posted on 4/6 11:12 AM | IP: Logged


Could be nothing.  Could be that they didn't think on Monday that there would be a willingness to offer a high enough salary to attract a good coach and they heard by Wed that there will be a decent salary commitment. 

Meh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 11:37:02 AM
meh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 06, 2011, 11:37:49 AM
Someone is seriously going to have to pull me out of the rough ridin' bottle if this goes down and he is gone.  I will be devastated. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
Its hard to find much detail, probably because Miami is a private school. All the articles about him leaving did mention 3 mil and 2 years left, but I'm not sure that meant 1.5 mil per year.

in one of the earlier articles, it was mentioned that miami would waive any buyouts, allowing haith to leave without penalty.  so i don't see how 3 million over 2 years isn't something more or less like 1.5/year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
Let's see.  If I go ahead an meltdown at least a little now, I'll be able to save myself from total shock later.  Something to consider.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
fellas, I'm starting a Disgustingly Hateful Email Campaign To John Currie Initiative should Frank bail on us.  I would like every one of you to participate.  This is not because I don't like John Currie or anything but I would really like to offset the GPC - Be Nice To John Currie Via Email If Frank Leaves campaign that's getting it's wheels moving as we speak.  Please start some rough drafts.  tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 06, 2011, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
Let's see.  If I go ahead an meltdown at least a little now, I'll be able to save myself from total shock later.  Something to consider.

This is what I'm leaning towards. Spread the meltdown over a longer period of time. Might help prevent one major, regrettable decision if I don't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 06, 2011, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 06, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
Let's see.  If I go ahead an meltdown at least a little now, I'll be able to save myself from total shock later.  Something to consider.

I've been on this plan since Sunday Night.  _Fan's logical, rational approach to this situation and life as a whole doesn't work for me.  I choose to  :runaway: at the first sign of trouble.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
If....


UConn riot, only out of disgust..

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnjosephbachir.org%2Fuconn_riot%2Fbbpics_files%2F15.jfif&hash=4555a5285c236e7c00b1f59a6c2b3608c6acfa6c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 06, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
fellas, I'm starting a Disgustingly Hateful Email Campaign To John Currie Initiative should Frank bail on us.  I would like every one of you to participate.  This is not because I don't like John Currie or anything but I would really like to offset the GPC - Be Nice To John Currie Via Email If Frank Leaves campaign that's getting it's wheels moving as we speak.  Please start some rough drafts.  tia.

Quote
Dear John Currie,

Die of cancer.

Sincerely,
Cancer Expert
-CartierFor3

Please edit as necessary.  TIA.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
Manbeck vs BP!

Quote
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
Have been told Frank Martin doesn't have much interest in Miami job. There's just no fan support, which is significant to him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 06, 2011, 12:03:18 PM
We (other than Dax) love you Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
Manbeck vs BP!

Quote
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
Have been told Frank Martin doesn't have much interest in Miami job. There's just no fan support, which is significant to him.

:bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:07:24 PM
More from Manbeck, some from yesterday's Brando interview: http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/MensBasketball/

Quotes from Art!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 06, 2011, 12:44:32 PM
Manbeck = (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.botproductions.com%2Fpv%2Fimages%2Fboron.jpg&hash=1516e636df8ee56c3bfe003939a615441bbb28cf)

Calling NRC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.

I agree, and Cole has earned his own pic based on this assessment.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.

I agree, and Cole has earned his own pic based on this assessment.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)

that would make a fantastic belt buckle.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)


 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.

I agree, and Cole has earned his own pic based on this assessment.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)

that would make a fantastic belt buckle.

I had this idea that you could get one of those cell phone holders for like an iPhone or Evo or something and put it on your belt right where the buckle is.  Then you have this app with a bunch of preloaded images of belt buckles on it.  You could change the image as you wanted.  You could also upload custom buckles (like the one above).  You'd pay like $10 for that app right?  I knew it!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/gregg-doyel-and-debbie-yow-savage-gary-williams/2011/04/05/AF6gvclC_blog.html

going to have to try and remember to watch maryland-ncsu games next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/gregg-doyel-and-debbie-yow-savage-gary-williams/2011/04/05/AF6gvclC_blog.html

going to have to try and remember to watch maryland-ncsu games next year.

Doyel is amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/gregg-doyel-and-debbie-yow-savage-gary-williams/2011/04/05/AF6gvclC_blog.html

going to have to try and remember to watch maryland-ncsu games next year.
fight!  fight! fight!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 06, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/gregg-doyel-and-debbie-yow-savage-gary-williams/2011/04/05/AF6gvclC_blog.html

going to have to try and remember to watch maryland-ncsu games next year.

Something tells me that Doyel is not a big fan of Williams. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 06, 2011, 01:43:23 PM
Williams sucks, also manbeck doing a good job of working hard.  unlike kellis and meek who has become incredibly lazy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
Heard the whole Doyel interview live . . . (pops collar).

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 06, 2011, 01:56:37 PM
i enjoy Doyel when he is riding our nutsack but most of the time he seems to be an overinflated dipsh!t
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 06, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on April 06, 2011, 01:56:37 PM
i enjoy Doyel when he is riding our nutsack but most of the time he seems to be an overinflated diphullabaloo

you suck
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 06, 2011, 02:07:12 PM
Doyel Rules.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jarvis_Cat on April 06, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Oh.....Doyel rules?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jarvis_Cat on April 06, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
Was he the guy on 810 this afternoon? Heard him talking about some of the KSU 2011 cruits.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: Jarvis_Cat on April 06, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
Was he the guy on 810 this afternoon? Heard him talking about some of the KSU 2011 cruits.

Eric Bossi
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
what did bossi say?  Please put in applicable recruit threads or start new thread.  tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: Jarvis_Cat on April 06, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
Was he the guy on 810 this afternoon? Heard him talking about some of the KSU 2011 cruits.

Eric Bossi

Bossi sounds much younger than I thought he was.  Also, he is doing his best to rename JHR so that there is an Enrique in there.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
I didn't get to hear all of it. Heard his opinion on the Haith hire (Doesn't know him personally, recruited decent at Miami, needs to hire a solid staff) and got out of my car. Got back in and he was talking pretty generically about the twins, Selby, and Robinson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
I didn't get to hear all of it. Heard his opinion on the Haith hire (Doesn't know him personally, recruited decent at Miami, needs to hire a solid staff) and got out of my car. Got back in and he was talking pretty generically about the twins, Selby, and Robinson.

See 2011 thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pett on April 06, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
When BP starts posting that cac then it's time to start :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 06, 2011, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
I didn't get to hear all of it. Heard his opinion on the Haith hire (Doesn't know him personally, recruited decent at Miami, needs to hire a solid staff) and got out of my car. Got back in and he was talking pretty generically about the twins, Selby, and Robinson.

See 2011 thread

Awesome. Thanks
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 06, 2011, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.
You are way, way off base, steve dave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
isn't bp some dumbass juco asst coach or dumbass scout or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 04:18:46 PM
Quote
Frank Martin's agent says no contact with Miami
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BY KELLIS ROBINETT
The Wichita Eagle

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/06/1796618/martins-agent-says-no-contact.html#ixzz1ImQq3X00

MANHATTAN — Frank Martin continues to be mentioned as a likely candidate for the open basketball coaching position at Miami, but as of Wednesday afternoon his agent had not been contacted by Hurricanes officials.

"I have talked to no one from Miami," said Richard Katz, of KMG Sports Management. "I hear the same rumors as everyone else, but no one has called me about Frank."

During a Tuesday interview with Tim Brando on a nationally syndicated radio show, Martin said no one had contacted him, either.

"No one's called me, Tim. I've got a great job. I work with great people," Martin said. "... I'm at a great place. And if people want to throw my name out there, I look at that as a compliment and I look at that as being lucky and fortunate that I'm in a good place right now and that people out there respect what we've done here."

But Martin, who has turned down interview requests through K-State officials, went on to tell Brando: "In this business, it's hard to ever sit back and say, 'Never say never,' " when asked about the possibility of accepting a new job.

Miami interim athletic director Tony Hernandez has told media in south Florida that he is looking at 20 candidates to replace Frank Haith, who was recently hired at Missouri, and would prefer to make his selection in less than a month.

He mentioned no specific names, but has hired the Atlanta-based consulting firm, Parker Executive Search, to assist in the hiring process. N.C. State hired Mark Gottfried on Tuesday.

Katz said he had not been contacted by any search firms on behalf of Miami, either.

Another possibility for Martin right now is a contract extension with the Wildcats. He agreed to a new contract in March 2010 that pays him an average of $1.55 million a year through 2015.

By guiding K-State to a third-place finish in the Big 12 this season, tied with Texas A&M, Martin has met the criteria in his contract to become eligible for an extension.

According to contract language, Martin and K-State athletic director John Currie are supposed to "agree to negotiate in good faith from April 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012 a modification, extension, or revised employment agreement."

If they fail to reach an agreement during that negotiation period, the amount of Martin's buyout, which is currently $1 million, drops to $500,000.

K-State athletic director John Currie could choose to bump up that timetable to put an end to the speculation surrounding Martin. But Katz said he has not spoken with Currie about a new deal, saying that is not a current priority for Martin.

"Any coach with an existing contract, whether it's Frank or anyone else, they're always eligible for a contract extension," Katz said. "At this point in time, I have not talked to Kansas State about a new contract.

"Frank, when he signed his new contract last year, was very pleased with it and thankful. He's a loyal guy, and he likes Kansas State. At this moment there is nothing else going on."

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/06/1796618/martins-agent-says-no-contact.html#ixzz1ImQwyiMh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
After these stories, it's going to break my rough ridin' heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 06, 2011, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
After these stories, it's going to break my rough ridin' heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.

I'll punch a child if Frank leaves. This would make me hate Bill even more. Don't do this to Bill Frank, he doesn't deserve even more SF hate.

20 candidates, seems like a lot no :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 06, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 06, 2011, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
After these stories, it's going to break my effing heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.

I'll punch a child if Frank leaves. This would make me hate Bill even more. Don't do this to Bill Frank, he doesn't deserve even more SF hate.

20 candidates, seems like a lot no :dunno:

It's a search firm.

If anything, that helps us, IMO.  My understanding of these search firms is that they like to keep it within their network to propagate business.  For example, a coach or agent gets affiliated with a search firm, and like an MLS listing, they become part of the network.  Generally, if you're not a part of the network, you don't get suggested as a candidate.  It gives coaches and agents a reason to affiliate with that search firm.

If there's a list of 20 people, and Frank hasn't been contacted, it says to me that Miami is using a search firm Frank or Katz isn't affiliated with, and the interim AD is probably going to go with the safe play and just use the search firm all of the way.

Also, if they're saying they want this wrapped up in a month, GMAFB.  This shouldn't take more than a week or two if they had their cac together.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 06, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
Not sure what this has to do with Snyds.  He had plenty of schools wanting to hire him back when the DoD was getting going and had every reason in the world to leave the worst program in history.  If anything, this would just further cement the fact that coaches are truly loyal to few things and most will jump when a better situation appears.  This isn't a Frank or Bill situation, it's a Frank may like Miami better than MHK situation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 06, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 06, 2011, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
After these stories, it's going to break my effing heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.

I'll punch a child if Frank leaves. This would make me hate Bill even more. Don't do this to Bill Frank, he doesn't deserve even more SF hate.

20 candidates, seems like a lot no :dunno:

It's a search firm.

If anything, that helps us, IMO.  My understanding of these search firms is that they like to keep it within their network to propagate business.  For example, a coach or agent gets affiliated with a search firm, and like an MLS listing, they become part of the network.  Generally, if you're not a part of the network, you don't get suggested as a candidate.  It gives coaches and agents a reason to affiliate with that search firm.

If there's a list of 20 people, and Frank hasn't been contacted, it says to me that Miami is using a search firm Frank or Katz isn't affiliated with, and the interim AD is probably going to go with the safe play and just use the search firm all of the way.

Also, if they're saying they want this wrapped up in a month, GMAFB.  This shouldn't take more than a week or two if they had their cac together.

Plus you'd think about half are either unrealistic dream candidates or last ditch, "we've struck out with everyone else" candidates.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 06, 2011, 04:54:16 PM
Why the eff does this jerk off have April 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012 as the dates for renegotiation?  Does that make any sense, Kellis? You rough ridin' rat!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 06, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 06, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
Not sure what this has to do with Snyds.  He had plenty of schools wanting to hire him back when the DoD was getting going and had every reason in the world to leave the worst program in history.  If anything, this would just further cement the fact that coaches are truly loyal to few things and most will jump when a better situation appears.  This isn't a Frank or Bill situation, it's a Frank may like Miami better than MHK situation.

Nothing to do with Bill. It would just make angrierist if Frank left and OB was our coach and Leach and RR are unemployed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 06:12:33 PM
maybe no one wants Frank...and we're stuck with him. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 06, 2011, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 06:12:33 PM
maybe no one wants Frank...and we're stuck with him.  :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2011, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2011, 06:12:33 PM
maybe no one wants Frank...and we're stuck with him. :frown:

Would take.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 06, 2011, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 04:18:46 PM
Quote
"I have talked to no one from Miami," said Richard Katz

"But, I've talked to, like, everyone that works for their search firm."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 06, 2011, 06:43:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

29%?

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 06, 2011, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

WE'RE SAFE :weirdrobert:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

So, you're thinking there's less chance he leaves?


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

So, you're thinking there's less chance he leaves?




Less than 10%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 06, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

So, you're thinking there's less chance he leaves?




Less than 10%.
This will be forever known as "The Guarantee"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 06, 2011, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

So, you're thinking there's less chance he leaves?




Less than 10%.

Threat level moved down to green.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 06, 2011, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 06, 2011, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
After these stories, it's going to break my rough ridin' heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.

I'll punch a child if Frank leaves. This would make me hate Bill even more. Don't do this to Bill Frank, he doesn't deserve even more SF hate.

20 candidates, seems like a lot no :dunno:

You know what would allow you to punch a child nearly guilt-free?  The knowledge that you supported hundreds (thousands?) of children by donating to the goEMAW BBBS fundraiser.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 06, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.

I think you're right.  He's probably a Robert Lipson type in his field of expertise, whatever his field of expertise is ( code writing)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 06, 2011, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 06, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.

I think you're right.  He's probably a Robert Lipson type in his field of expertise, whatever his field of expertise is ( code writing)

Speaking of people that haven't donated to the BBBS fundraiser...   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FHSU92 on April 06, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
Quote
caneswatch Jorge Milian
So if Donna Shalala said no to Mike Leach, why would she say yes to Frank Martin, who can make Leach look like a choir boy?
about 4 hours ago via web
:surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 06, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: FHSU92 on April 06, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
Quote
caneswatch Jorge Milian
So if Donna Shalala said no to Mike Leach, why would she say yes to Frank Martin, who can make Leach look like a choir boy?
about 4 hours ago via web
:surprised:

This makes me want Leach even more...no Catholic homo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FHSU92 on April 06, 2011, 10:56:13 PM
Quote
sgorten (UM beat writer for Sun-Sentinel)

@BShady (Anthony Grant) would be my no. 1 choice, but think will be outta UM price range. Already at $1.8 mil and in talks for possible raise about 5 hours ago via ÜberSocial in reply to BShady
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
I am enjoying the Uneducated Powertards trying to convince themselves that Miami doesn't have the facilities.   Hey dumbasses, Miami built a brand new on campus arena 7 years ago, with all new basketball offices etc. etc. etc.  Right now they're raising the money to build a new practice gym on to that facility.  

But this, "they don't have the facilities" BS they keep spewing over and over simply isn't true.  

http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/priorities/images/SPRINT_campaign.pdf

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthefunkent.com%2Ftour%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fbank-united-center.jpg&hash=945f08d16bfe3a54743c96d2a974104eade7af84)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 06, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
I am enjoying the Uneducated Powertards trying to convince themselves that Miami doesn't have the facilities.   Hey dumbasses, Miami built a brand new on campus arena 7 years ago, with all new basketball offices etc. etc. etc.  Right now they're raising the money to build a new practice gym on to that facility.  

But this, "they don't have the facilities" BS they keep spewing over and over simply isn't true.  

http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/priorities/images/SPRINT_campaign.pdf

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthefunkent.com%2Ftour%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fbank-united-center.jpg&hash=945f08d16bfe3a54743c96d2a974104eade7af84)

Well, at least they can't fill up even half of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 11:15:23 PM
Quote from: pike on April 06, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
I am enjoying the Uneducated Powertards trying to convince themselves that Miami doesn't have the facilities.   Hey dumbasses, Miami built a brand new on campus arena 7 years ago, with all new basketball offices etc. etc. etc.  Right now they're raising the money to build a new practice gym on to that facility.  

But this, "they don't have the facilities" BS they keep spewing over and over simply isn't true.  

http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/priorities/images/SPRINT_campaign.pdf

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthefunkent.com%2Ftour%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fbank-united-center.jpg&hash=945f08d16bfe3a54743c96d2a974104eade7af84)

Well, at least they can't fill up even half of it.

Well, one of their talking points is crap, and another one I have serious doubts about . . . that's Miami's ability to pay.   The question is not can they afford to pay a coach, it's a question of wanting to pay a coach.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 06, 2011, 11:22:10 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 06, 2011, 11:22:49 PM
the president is still freaked by that whole brawl on the football field with FIU, they won't want someone who throws eff bombs during every timeout.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
they actually just finished building a bball practice facility in 2009.


agree on their ability to pay, if they choose.  not only do they have plenty of money already (apparently spend a crap load too, but still, when the money's there it can be spun around to find an extra 500 k or mill or whatever is needed), but iirc the acc is also getting a new and substantial shot of tv money in the next year or so.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 07, 2011, 12:17:17 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 11:15:23 PM
Quote from: pike on April 06, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
I am enjoying the Uneducated Powertards trying to convince themselves that Miami doesn't have the facilities.   Hey dumbasses, Miami built a brand new on campus arena 7 years ago, with all new basketball offices etc. etc. etc.  Right now they're raising the money to build a new practice gym on to that facility.  

But this, "they don't have the facilities" BS they keep spewing over and over simply isn't true.  

http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/priorities/images/SPRINT_campaign.pdf

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthefunkent.com%2Ftour%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fbank-united-center.jpg&hash=945f08d16bfe3a54743c96d2a974104eade7af84)

Well, at least they can't fill up even half of it.

Well, one of their talking points is crap, and another one I have serious doubts about . . . that's Miami's ability to pay.   The question is not can they afford to pay a coach, it's a question of wanting to pay a coach.   

A nice DII facility.  Emporia State should take notes.  The thing holds 8,000 people or a little more than the EMAW student section.  Miami is a crap job. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 07, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
they actually just finished building a bball practice facility in 2009.


agree on their ability to pay, if they choose.  not only do they have plenty of money already (apparently spend a cac load too, but still, when the money's there it can be spun around to find an extra 500 k or mill or whatever is needed), but iirc the acc is also getting a new and substantial shot of tv money in the next year or so.

Yeah, its hard to argue that Miami couldn't claim commitment to facilities, though IMHO those facilities are much more like a great mid major program than high major. And there is no question that they can pay 1.5-2.0 mil if they want to. But none of this can replace the fact that it has proven over and over that as a program it is very difficult to support basketball at a level to win big, even when they are winning at a decent rate. Its telling that in the first season of their new arena, they didn't even average 5000 fans.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: prome05 on April 07, 2011, 07:25:25 AM
John Currie isn't worried?

From the K-State Sports Extra e-mail this morning:
"As long as we earn the support of our fans, we want to continue to do this in at least one of the two locations every single year," said Currie. "It gives our fans of south-central and southwestern Kansas, or in the Kansas City area, the opportunity to cheer on coach Frank Martin and our student-athletes, who perhaps otherwise couldn't get to Bramlage Coliseum."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 07:27:08 AM
Quote from: prome05 on April 07, 2011, 07:25:25 AM
John Currie isn't worried?

From the K-State Sports Extra e-mail this morning:
"As long as we earn the support of our fans, we want to continue to do this in at least one of the two locations every single year," said Currie. "It gives our fans of south-central and southwestern Kansas, or in the Kansas City area, the opportunity to cheer on coach Frank Martin and our student-athletes, who perhaps otherwise couldn't get to Bramlage Coliseum."

He's probably just trying to make Frank look like an bad person for leaving to SWKS'rs.

The silence from Bosco on all this is deafening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.

I agree, and Cole has earned his own pic based on this assessment.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)

that would make a fantastic belt buckle.

I had this idea that you could get one of those cell phone holders for like an iPhone or Evo or something and put it on your belt right where the buckle is.  Then you have this app with a bunch of preloaded images of belt buckles on it.  You could change the image as you wanted.  You could also upload custom buckles (like the one above).  You'd pay like $10 for that app right?  I knew it!
that's a fantastic idea
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 07, 2011, 08:33:35 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 06, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 06, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
manbeck killercrossovering the other beats once again.  the true bitb.

I agree, and Cole has earned his own pic based on this assessment.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fcrossovercole.png&hash=69487b1867a2f3743c1e2aad0eb21337c36ecc81)

that would make a fantastic belt buckle.

I had this idea that you could get one of those cell phone holders for like an iPhone or Evo or something and put it on your belt right where the buckle is.  Then you have this app with a bunch of preloaded images of belt buckles on it.  You could change the image as you wanted.  You could also upload custom buckles (like the one above).  You'd pay like $10 for that app right?  I knew it!
that's a fantastic idea

Taking applications for programmers.  Also accepting investors.  PM for details.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2011, 08:45:36 AM
for mine, i want the head of an snarling labradoodle that blows steam out its nostrils whenever i thrust my hips.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 07, 2011, 09:27:17 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/04/06/2782394/k-states-martin-and-agent-havent.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on April 07, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Those always go well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 07, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Those always go well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY)

That's exactly what I am looking for.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 07, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Those always go well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY)

This made me so happy.  Well done!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Gary Parrish talking Frank now..

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/sportingnewsradio/

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Gary Parrish talking Frank now..

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/sportingnewsradio/



It's not even about Frank.  It's national media dudes saying Austin and Kellis are butthurt.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 07, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Gary Parrish talking Frank now..

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/sportingnewsradio/



It's not even about Frank.  It's national media dudes saying Austin and Kellis are butthurt.

yeah, i was disappointed. Said about two sentences about Frank. The rest was what you said.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Gary Parrish talking Frank now..

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/sportingnewsradio/



please link when it's a podcast.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Gary Parrish talking Frank now..

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/sportingnewsradio/



please link when it's a podcast.

not worth it. but ok
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Well, given Frank isn't a rough ridin' dumbass I doubt he has
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
not worth it. but ok

i trust your judgment.



saw a thread on the hurricane scout board about larry brown hinting at interest.  that'd be fun.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 07, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: sys on April 05, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 05, 2011, 01:07:33 AM
once the practice facility gets done you could actually call k-state a pretty good job.

what makes it "good"?  in comparison with what?

Sorry, been off the board for a few days. Can't remember exactly what I meant at the time but I think it was probably in reference to the kind of place that can actually keep a good coach for an extended period of time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 11:31:46 AM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
not worth it. but ok

i trust your judgment.



saw a thread on the hurricane scout board about larry brown hinting at interest.  that'd be fun.

They jerked each other off about how much press the earlier interview got, and about how the local newspapers guys are upset that Frank talked to Brando and not them.

Parrish said if Miami ponies up the money/resources, Frank will go.  No crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cackle on April 07, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
are we mumped yet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 07, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
are we mumped yet?

concern level --> 0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14913184/miami-can-grab-martin-uturn-program-if-it-commits
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 07, 2011, 12:03:12 PM
Congrats Gary Parrish for taking 4 days to come up with something any logical human being could have figured out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 07, 2011, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14913184/miami-can-grab-martin-uturn-program-if-it-commits

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 07, 2011, 12:13:17 PM
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http://themercury.com/k-statesports/article.aspx?articleId=08026ac1102547e9bc35739cfd1fa716
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 07, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
I'm going to hate whoever we hire as our next head coach.  I just know I am.  Some losery dickface piss ant coach is going to get to recruit Junction City retards to our new practice facility and those reject MIAA losers are going to be wearing our Elite Greys and it's going to make me  :barf:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on April 07, 2011, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: "storm"nut on April 07, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Please provide me scoop today......Has Frank turned it down publicly, yet?  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Those always go well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwce9LkYoQY)

Just think of the opportunities for us to look like that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fanbase.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2011, 01:00:45 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: Cackle on April 07, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
are we mumped yet?

concern level --> 0%

yeah, i'm more concerned that Sean Snyder will be the next fball coach than Frank leaving for Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 01:18:21 PM
I'd like to 2nd the thoughts on Parrish really being on the cutting edge there.   An ACC school located in Miami, FL with a fairly significant D1 basketball recruiting base in its back yard can turn it around if they commit to doing so . . . that's some cutting edge crap right there.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 07, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
I'm going to hate whoever we hire as our next head coach.  I just know I am.  Some losery dickface piss ant coach is going to get to recruit Junction City retards to our new practice facility and those reject MIAA losers are going to be wearing our Elite Greys and it's going to make me  :barf:

I think you have too little faith in ADJC.  He has at least earned the benefit of the doubt that he can make a good hire.  I know he hasn't made a hire yet, but he extended frank and got funding for the practice facility. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:23:10 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 07, 2011, 11:31:46 AM
They jerked each other off about how much press the earlier interview got, and about how the local newspapers guys are upset that Frank talked to Brando and not them.

i'm a little outraged about their podcast description of the martin interview claiming that the interview got emaw all outraged.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
i'd appreciate it if everyone would stop beating off about the practice facility.  kstate is the last high major in the world to build one, it isn't something to be proud of.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
BiTB, Jr.   Is claiming frank "floated" this story to Gary Parrish to tell Miami he is interested in the job. 

He is good.  Obviously that is the easiest/most effective way to get word to Miami acting AD.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 07, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
i'd appreciate it if everyone would stop beating off about the practice facility.  kstate is the last high major in the world to build one, it isn't something to be proud of.
Agreed. It's kind of like how the powertards whipped themselves in to a frenzy about the video board and how "HUGE" it was.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
BiTB, Jr.   Is claiming frank "floated" this story to Gary Parrish to tell Miami he is interested in the job. 

He is good.  Obviously that is the easiest/most effective way to get word to Miami acting AD.

Doesn't matter.  If the AD has already paid money to a search firm, and the search firm isn't floating Frank's name, the odds are pretty low that he'll get in the mix unless he does something to get involved with said firm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14913184/miami-can-grab-martin-uturn-program-if-it-commits

Quote
Good article by @GaryParrishCBS on Miami & Frank Martin. That said, I don't expect Miami to do what it would take to hire Martin.

northstarbball, aka the nicest recruiting guy that exists, and the only one besides zagoria that's nice to kline calls parrish a dumbass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
so, who is Miami's Eddie Fogler?  Art?  Shakey?  Cause to me, that's all Miami needs to get Frank.  Someone to convince them (miami) to do it.  Miami doesn't really have to do anything but say "yes". 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 07, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
Let's hire Bobby rough ridin' Knight!  :woot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 06wildcat on April 07, 2011, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 07, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
i'd appreciate it if everyone would stop beating off about the practice facility.  kstate is the last high major in the world to build one, it isn't something to be proud of.
Agreed. It's kind of like how the powertards whipped themselves in to a frenzy about the video board and how "HUGE" it was.

And Michigan is spending more on their new video boards than we are on the rough ridin' practice facility.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 07, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
BiTB, Jr.   Is claiming frank "floated" this story to Gary Parrish to tell Miami he is interested in the job. 

He is good.  Obviously that is the easiest/most effective way to get word to Miami acting AD.

As if they didn't know Martin would be interested? jfc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 07, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
All right... who the eff is BITB jr??  We can't just start making crap up now folks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
footnote to the big 12 coaching changes.  rodney terry from texas was hired at fresno state.  apparently he has been ut's connection with grassroots canada.  will be interesting to watch over the next couple years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on April 07, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
footnote to the big 12 coaching changes.  rodney terry from texas was hired at fresno state.  apparently he has been ut's connection with grassroots canada.  will be interesting to watch over the next couple years.


I wondered who opened that pipeline up for the Horns...  Very interesting...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 07, 2011, 02:18:41 PM
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 07, 2011, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
footnote to the big 12 coaching changes.  rodney terry from texas was hired at fresno state.  apparently he has been ut's connection with grassroots canada.  will be interesting to watch over the next couple years.

this fact + Juevol leading the team next year =  :bball:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 07, 2011, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
i'd appreciate it if everyone would stop beating off about the practice facility.  kstate is the last high major in the world to build one, it isn't something to be proud of.

That's true. And granted, nobody gets more excited about things we should expect than K-Stateo. But I think part of the optimism at least from non retards is from the fact that we've been doing pretty well despite not having a basic advantage that pretty much every self respecting basketball programs has. I can understand some excitement from that viewpoint.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 02:43:25 PM
Cole doing his best to settle down EMAWers on twitter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 07, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
i'd appreciate it if everyone would stop beating off about the practice facility.  kstate is the last high major in the world to build one, it isn't something to be proud of.
Agreed. It's kind of like how the powertards whipped themselves in to a frenzy about the video board and how "HUGE" it was.

It's okay to rub one out over the actual facility itself because it's going to be pretty gosh darn nice.   The reason to be pissed about it is, when you understand that an AD making HALF of what Tim Weiser was paid, made this happen in a little over a year, while Tim Weiser drug his ass around for 2 to 3 years on this project and wasted a lot of people's time talking about bullshit like storage space, and outdoor loge boxes in the football stadium.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 02:55:17 PM
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ryanmgreene Ryan Greene
by coachingrumors
Gut telling me #UNLV coaching decision should come no later than tomorrow afternoon. Theus, Kent here today, wrapping up interview process.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 02:56:03 PM
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Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
"I don't see it happening."
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"sits 8,000 fans and they won't pay that kind of money. They're still paying Randy Shannon from last year when he got fired (cont)
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"If they gave him $1.5-$2 million per year and guaranteed 12K fans per game I think (Martin) Martin would listen. BUT the arena only (cont)
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Dislike using anonymous sources, but just got off the phone with source regarding Frank Martin situation. Here's what was said:
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 07, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 02:56:03 PM
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Cole Manbeck
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"I don't see it happening."
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Cole Manbeck
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"sits 8,000 fans and they won't pay that kind of money. They're still paying Randy Shannon from last year when he got fired (cont)
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Cole Manbeck
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"If they gave him $1.5-$2 million per year and guaranteed 12K fans per game I think (Martin) Martin would listen. BUT the arena only (cont)
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Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
Dislike using anonymous sources, but just got off the phone with source regarding Frank Martin situation. Here's what was said:
17 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

i dislike using anonymous sources, but when it benefits my brand as a reporter I'm happy to go ahead and do so.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 07, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
I dislike going to work, but I do it to get paid.  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
i'd hate to see manbeck try and go all journalistic integrity sportsreportertard on us.  he should love anon sources and tweet about them all the time, rubbing meek's nose in them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 1992 on April 07, 2011, 03:18:49 PM
I will be sad when Frank goes South, but in the end...I have faith that oscar Pearl will keep it going!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
 :flush:  (you, not oscar pearl)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 07, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
If Miami had an AD, Frank is gone.

Too bad Frank and Currie hate each other. They could go together.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear.  

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.    

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things.  
frank is from the streets, he has $treet $mart$.  catzacker, do you understand what i'm saying to you?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.

every single basektball coach in the entire world does this exact same thing, but I agree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear.  

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.    

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things.  

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.
and yet the dumbass can't put together a reindeer christmas decoration for his front yard.  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear.  

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.    

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things.  

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.
and yet the dumbass can't put together a reindeer christmas decoration for his front yard.  :lol:

I don't judge someone's intelligence on their ability put that cac together.

This means that I'm completely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) at doing the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear.  

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.    

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things.  

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.
and yet the dumbass can't put together a reindeer christmas decoration for his front yard.  :lol:

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.

every single basektball coach in the entire world does this exact same thing, but I agree

Yeah, but he's much more subtle about it.

i.e. Not horrible at it like Mike Anderson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
What is the good of having an extra tall, extra white, extra engineery kid on your team if he doesn't take care of this stuff for you?

Prob why Potz was forced to resign.  Decorations or GTFO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.

every single basektball coach in the entire world does this exact same thing, but I agree

dunno.  who was anderson's people talking?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 03:34:08 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
The fact that Frank's people are putting out info that he would be interested in the Miami job is probably the best news that anyone who's not a dumbass and doesn't want Frank to leave could hear. 

i think the fact that franks people are putting stuff out there means that frank wants more money (just like last time).  or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.     

imo, frank doesn't use his agent.  he uses his people.  which looks far better and is an incredibly smart way of doing things. 

Frank is an incredibly savvy businessman.  I attribute it to working most of his adolescent/adult life and seeing how people outside of this business get things done.

He's incredibly intelligent.  It's one of my favorite qualities about him.

every single basektball coach in the entire world does this exact same thing, but I agree

dunno.  who was anderson's people talking?

There was never anyone from his camp talking him up to AR or talking about his interest in AR....because he was going to go there.  All the chatter was from AR's side. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
So does anyone know why Hocutt left Miami besides the family angle?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Everything you need to know:

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No Tweet results for #miamibball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Everything you need to know:

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No Tweet results for #miamibball.

I'm telling you; their interim AD is going to perform the most generic, slow search we see this entire offseason, and the hire is going to be very 'meh'.

I feel bad for Frank.  This was the golden opportunity for an immediate windfall, and their inept search is going to prevent him from getting a few million more from us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Everything you need to know:

Quote
No Tweet results for #miamibball.

I'm telling you; their interim AD is going to perform the most generic, slow search we see this entire offseason, and the hire is going to be very 'meh'.

I feel bad for Frank.  This was the golden opportunity for an immediate windfall, and their inept search is going to prevent him from getting a few million more from us.

all it takes is one Eddie Fogler, bro.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 07, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
So does anyone know why Hocutt left Miami besides the family angle?

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
Quote
• As of Thursday morning, Miami had not contacted Kansas State and Miami native Frank Martin. And according to a source, Martin should not expect a call. Through an intermediary, a search firm let Martin know that Miami was going in a different direction.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
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• As of Thursday morning, Miami had not contacted Kansas State and Miami native Frank Martin. And according to a source, Martin should not expect a call. Through an intermediary, a search firm let Martin know that Miami was going in a different direction.


those stuck-up snob beach assholes!   :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 07, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
pretty much what i expected. miami couldn't of got him with spending more than they will and promising more than they can deliver, anyways.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 07, 2011, 04:01:30 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
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• As of Thursday morning, Miami had not contacted Kansas State and Miami native Frank Martin. And according to a source, Martin should not expect a call. Through an intermediary, a search firm let Martin know that Miami was going in a different direction.


Fatty reads Andy Katz's blog  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 07, 2011, 04:03:02 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 07, 2011, 04:01:30 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
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• As of Thursday morning, Miami had not contacted Kansas State and Miami native Frank Martin. And according to a source, Martin should not expect a call. Through an intermediary, a search firm let Martin know that Miami was going in a different direction.


Fatty reads Andy Katz's blog  :lol:

This came from Andy Katz? If so, we're fracked.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: JAYHAWK4U on April 07, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
I though this kinda funny.


http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/4/6/2093662/aldens-13#storyjump
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: JAYHAWK4U on April 07, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
I though this kinda funny.


http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/4/6/2093662/aldens-13#storyjump

nice first post, but it's already been posted.

stupid ass squawk.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:06:12 PM
Quote
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Everything you need to know:

Quote
No Tweet results for #miamibball.

I'm telling you; their interim AD is going to perform the most generic, slow search we see this entire offseason, and the hire is going to be very 'meh'.

I feel bad for Frank.  This was the golden opportunity for an immediate windfall, and their inept search is going to prevent him from getting a few million more from us.

So how is this going to effect recruiting?  Is he out recruiting now or has there been any change from this normal recruiting practices due to these rumors?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
Quote
Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:06:12 PM


I'm telling you; their interim AD is going to perform the most generic, slow search we see this entire offseason, and the hire is going to be very 'meh'.

I feel bad for Frank.  This was the golden opportunity for an immediate windfall, and their inept search is going to prevent him from getting a few million more from us.

So how is this going to effect recruiting?  Is he out recruiting now or has there been any change from this normal recruiting practices due to these rumors?

Unless something changes, our class for 2011 is complete. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 07, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: JAYHAWK4U on April 07, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
I though this kinda funny.


http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/4/6/2093662/aldens-13#storyjump

good post, jayhawk4u
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
Unless something changes, our class for 2011 is complete. 

it is 2012 recruiting season.  at least at schools that don't kick half their sophs off the team each spring.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
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Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:06:12 PM
So how is this going to effect recruiting?  Is he out recruiting now or has there been any change from this normal recruiting practices due to these rumors?

Unless something changes, our class for 2011 is complete. 

I'm a little confused.  We have to replace Pullen, Kelly, Asprilla and Judge.  We have signed Diaz, Gipson and Rodriguez.  What am I missing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
beefpac, please learn how to quote, tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 07, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
Quote
Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:06:12 PM
So how is this going to effect recruiting?  Is he out recruiting now or has there been any change from this normal recruiting practices due to these rumors?

Unless something changes, our class for 2011 is complete.  

I'm a little confused.  We have to replace Pullen, Kelly, Asprilla and Judge.  We have signed Diaz, Gipson and Rodriguez.  What am I missing?

Omari & 95.  Both will want a 'ship.  One won't get one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 07, 2011, 04:17:44 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
Katz mumped by Katz. oh my.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
beefpac, please learn how to quote, tia.

I'm wokring on it.  I only hope I am as good as you when I have 6000+ posts. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
beefpac, please learn how to quote, tia.

I'm wokring on it.  I only hope I am as good as you when I have 6000+ posts. 

well i can't guarantee it, but you should at least be able to spell by then.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 07, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
everyone please direct Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) recruiting questions to applicable recruiting thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 07, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: beefpac on April 07, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
beefpac, please learn how to quote, tia.

I'm wokring on it.  I only hope I am as good as you when I have 6000+ posts.  
:users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
 :surprised: :runaway: :bracketmouse: :flush:  :horrorsurprise:

or

 :emawkid: :ksu: :woot: :driving: :drink:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 04:33:21 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
Katz mumped by Katz. oh my.

heh.  go emaw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 07, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
:surprised: :runaway: :bracketmouse: :flush:  :horrorsurprise:

or

 :emawkid: :ksu: :woot: :driving: :drink:



I feel like maybe bracketmouse should be on the bottom with the other positive emoticons
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 07, 2011, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 07, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
:surprised: :runaway: :bracketmouse: :flush:  :horrorsurprise:

or

 :emawkid: :ksu: :woot: :driving: :drink:



I feel like maybe bracketmouse should be on the bottom with the other positive emoticons

bracketmouse is a mobile, on the move emoticon.  surprised you didn't know that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Johnny Wichita on April 06, 2011, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 06, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.

I think you're right.  He's probably a Robert Lipson type in his field of expertise, whatever his field of expertise is ( code writing)

Speaking of people that haven't donated to the BBBS fundraiser...  

I don't have time to read all the bullshit, so I missed the whoop-de doo at Avivo, which I'm very soryy about.  I can still give to the whatever fund, just tell me where to send the dollar bill :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 07, 2011, 04:48:04 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: raquetcat on April 07, 2011, 05:13:39 PM
BITB saying that Frank is not going to call ADJC up, that ADJC will have to go to Frank and say what do we need to do to make you stay here. But (and here is where the BITB part comes in) he said maybe ADJC isn't going to talk to Frank so Frank goes to Miami then he can hire his bro Pearl, BITB spins it again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 05:15:14 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
Quote
• As of Thursday morning, Miami had not contacted Kansas State and Miami native Frank Martin. And according to a source, Martin should not expect a call. Through an intermediary, a search firm let Martin know that Miami was going in a different direction.


 :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: goldenticket on April 07, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
pearl is not an option for at least a year if not two. everyone says he will get hit with a show cause (i think his hearing isnt until june but i might be wrong on that). and if he does he wont get hired by anyone for a while. most people think he will go to tv for a couple years then prob hop on some small school job and if that goes well then get a real job. as far as I know not only has there never been a coach hired with a show cause no school has ever interviewed a coach that is under a show cause. pearl is toxic right now and not an option for anyone next season
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
Quote from: goldenticket on April 07, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
pearl is not an option for at least a year if not two. everyone says he will get hit with a show cause (i think his hearing isnt until june but i might be wrong on that). and if he does he wont get hired by anyone for a while. most people think he will go to tv for a couple years then prob hop on some small school job and if that goes well then get a real job. as far as I know not only has there never been a coach hired with a show cause no school has ever interviewed a coach that is under a show cause. pearl is toxic right now and not an option for anyone next season

Pearl's next coaching job will not be a small school.  If he is available without penalty and no more looming potential for penalty, plenty of schools would go after him.

He would be fantastic on TV. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2011, 05:22:47 PM
k-state hoops wins again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:27:20 PM
If stuff starts coming out via the media that Frank would go to Miami for less money or home is more important than money or any other ridiculous garbage then we know Katz (agent, not stupid suit wearing journalist) came to play. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Dear goEMAW'ers,

Hello. I would like to inform you that I am very very angered right now. I am very sick of all of this.

Simply put, you all have wear at my soul. I compare you all to high school chicks spreading rumors. Would you all like a jolly rancher to go along with your zima?

I am leaving for a while. Not really sure when I will return. I am sure almost positive that there are other websites that would pleasure me more right now than you all.

I hope you all are happy. You all have a lot of growing up to do and I hope that you find it.

_FAN, KK, Saul I appreciate you. I am sorry I have to do this but I will be back at some point.

Thank you all and have a great day,

sd
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2011, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Dear goEMAW'ers,

Hello. I would like to inform you that I am very very angered right now. I am very sick of all of this.

Simply put, you all have wear at my soul. I compare you all to high school chicks spreading rumors. Would you all like a jolly rancher to go along with your zima?

I am leaving for a while. Not really sure when I will return. I am sure almost positive that there are other websites that would pleasure me more right now than you all.

I hope you all are happy. You all have a lot of growing up to do and I hope that you find it.

_FAN, KK, Saul I appreciate you. I am sorry I have to do this but I will be back at some point.

Thank you all and have a great day,

sd

 :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 07, 2011, 05:40:49 PM
sd = havs?  is this like a really bad character write-off? :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 07, 2011, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Dear goEMAW'ers,

Hello. I would like to inform you that I am very very angered right now. I am very sick of all of this.

Simply put, you all have wear at my soul. I compare you all to high school chicks spreading rumors. Would you all like a jolly rancher to go along with your zima?

I am leaving for a while. Not really sure when I will return. I am sure almost positive that there are other websites that would pleasure me more right now than you all.

I hope you all are happy. You all have a lot of growing up to do and I hope that you find it.

_FAN, KK, Saul I appreciate you. I am sorry I have to do this but I will be back at some point.

Thank you all and have a great day,

sd

Quote
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 :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 07, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
If SD goes off and creates goemawcopycatsite.com and later tries to sue himself, I'm going back to ksufans.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
ok, I'm back, false alarm.  I was just being a huge rough ridin' vagina who sucks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kcchiefdav on April 07, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
ok, I'm back, false alarm.  I was just being a huge rough ridin' vagina who sucks.

wb
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 07, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
sd = bitb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 07, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 07, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
ok, I'm back, false alarm.  I was just being a huge rough ridin' vagina who sucks.

 :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 07, 2011, 06:26:20 PM
I'll be honest, was a little more upset about this than when i heard the Miami job was open. :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable. 

I'm down for doing this anytime, Miami meltdown or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Johnny Wichita on April 06, 2011, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 06, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.

I think you're right.  He's probably a Robert Lipson type in his field of expertise, whatever his field of expertise is ( code writing)

Speaking of people that haven't donated to the BBBS fundraiser...  

I don't have time to read all the bullshit, so I missed the whoop-de doo at Avivo, which I'm very soryy about.  I can still done to the whatever fund, just tell me where to send the dollar bill :gocho:

http://kan.st/8I
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 01:23:10 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 07, 2011, 11:31:46 AM
They jerked each other off about how much press the earlier interview got, and about how the local newspapers guys are upset that Frank talked to Brando and not them.

i'm a little outraged about their podcast description of the martin interview claiming that the interview got emaw all outraged.

Quote
Another national report – Martin has declined interview requests from local outlets – stated Martin would “walk on coals” to coach Miami, which suggests he's at least looking for a salary bump.

:lol:

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-04-07/meek-k-state-miami-not-so-different
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2011, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

:emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 07, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM
or wants the fan base to start tapping john's door with pitch forks just to let john know who his daddy is just in case john thought frank was somehow easily replaceable.  

I'm down for doing this anytime, Miami meltdown or not.

i think it's important that this be what comes out of this, regardless of the outcome.  not the inevitable tuck talking point of "martin said he was loyal".  i mean, apparently john can't get along with a coach who's:  
-had more success in a sport than the program has seen in 20+ years
-doesn't/hasn't gotten in trouble with the ncaa
-hasn't done something embarassing like get caught f'ing a skank at Coco Bolo's
-loved by tucks and emaw'ers alike
I mean, what kind of dipsh*t can't get along with that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2011, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

Well that's good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 08:10:27 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 07, 2011, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Johnny Wichita on April 06, 2011, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 06, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
honestly, and I love the guy and he's my most must read poster over there, I don't think bp really knows wtf he's talking about most of the time.

I think you're right.  He's probably a Robert Lipson type in his field of expertise, whatever his field of expertise is ( code writing)

Speaking of people that haven't donated to the BBBS fundraiser...  

I don't have time to read all the bullshit, so I missed the whoop-de doo at Avivo, which I'm very soryy about.  I can still done to the whatever fund, just tell me where to send the dollar bill :gocho:

http://kan.st/8I


I hope this isn't for Johnny Wichita's kid to bowl :horrorsurprise: I've got my own youngin's to worry about.

JW needs to meet me by the big tree next to the rock wall ( code for Emerson Biggins) Friday afternoon for the dollar bill exchange :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 07, 2011, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

no offense, but that was one of your stupider articles.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 07, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Meek has been butthurt since he got his ass handed to him by the national media after the kellis incident.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: austin_meek on April 07, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: TheMadCatter on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

no offense, but that was one of your stupider articles.

None taken.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 07, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 07, 2011, 10:36:07 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 08:10:27 PM
I hope this isn't for Johnny Wichita's kid to bowl :horrorsurprise: I've got my own youngin's to worry about.

JW needs to meet me by the big tree next to the rock wall ( code for Emerson Biggins) Friday afternoon for the dollar bill exchange :cheers:

Deal.  When did you guys switch from the watering hole across from the forrest, next to the Mexican beach? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 07, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
Mother of EFF over 40 pages....Is he staying or going?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 07, 2011, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 07, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
Mother of EFF over 40 pages....Is he staying or going?

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 08, 2011, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 07, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
Mother of EFF over 40 pages....Is he staying or going?

Already left. Talking about mike anderson right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 01:00:52 AM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 09:09:00 PM
no offense, but that was one of your stupider articles.

Quote from: Cire on April 07, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Meek has been butthurt since he got his ass handed to him by the national media after the kellis incident.

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IF YOU WANT TO GO AFTER A BEAT WRITER — ONE OF MY FAVORITE BEAT WRITERS — THEN GO AFTER THE ONES WHO DON'T DO THINGS RIGHT. YOU SAY THE ARTICLE IS STUPID? THAT'S NOT TRUE! YOU SAY THAT HIS BUTT HURTS? THAT'S NOT TRUE!

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER HIM FOR SOMETHING HE WROTE? I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE AT IN SOCIETY!?

WHY NOT GO AFTER THE BEAT WRITERS WHO WRITE BAD ARTICLE AFTER BAD ARTICLE? WHY NOT GO AFTER THE BEAT WRITERS THAT MAKE STAR PLAYERS CRY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION DURING THEIR WEAKEST MOMENT?

WHO'S THE BEAT WRITER HERE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHO'S THE BEAT WRITER?

BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BEAT WRITER, DO YOU? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE KICKED WHEN YOU'RE DOWN, AND TOLD THAT YOU'RE FAT! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COME HOME AFTER A HARD DAY OF WORK AND HAVE NOTHING TO EAT BUT JAYHAWK COOKIES!

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THIS MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 08, 2011, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 01:00:52 AM
YOU SAY THE ARTICLE IS STUPID? THAT'S NOT TRUE!

is true.  also, i just reversed your prayer; don't expect to live to 125, don't expect to fall through ice.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 08, 2011, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Johnny Wichita on April 07, 2011, 10:36:07 PM
Quote from: Bill Clarahan on April 07, 2011, 08:10:27 PM
I hope this isn't for Johnny Wichita's kid to bowl :horrorsurprise: I've got my own youngin's to worry about.

JW needs to meet me by the big tree next to the rock wall ( code for Emerson Biggins) Friday afternoon for the dollar bill exchange :cheers:

Deal.  When did you guys switch from the watering hole across from the forrest, next to the Mexican beach? 

I hope you guys aren't going way out west to the Hutch EBs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 08, 2011, 07:22:15 AM
Quote from: SwiftCat on April 08, 2011, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 07, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
Mother of EFF over 40 pages....Is he staying or going?

Already left. Talking about mike anderson right?
:users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 07:30:46 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 01:00:52 AM
Quote from: sys on April 07, 2011, 09:09:00 PM
no offense, but that was one of your stupider articles.

Quote from: Cire on April 07, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Meek has been butthurt since he got his ass handed to him by the national media after the kellis incident.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_jfrPLRCdH6U%2FSPTR0ICbpcI%2FAAAAAAAAAHc%2FtbCWydT7biQ%2Fs320%2Fmike%2Bgundy.jpg&hash=8dd3b16dd447878d9c3a4d91cb44a1198ac74495)

IF YOU WANT TO GO AFTER A BEAT WRITER — ONE OF MY FAVORITE BEAT WRITERS — THEN GO AFTER THE ONES WHO DON'T DO THINGS RIGHT. YOU SAY THE ARTICLE IS STUPID? THAT'S NOT TRUE! YOU SAY THAT HIS BUTT HURTS? THAT'S NOT TRUE!

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER HIM FOR SOMETHING HE WROTE? I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE AT IN SOCIETY!?

WHY NOT GO AFTER THE BEAT WRITERS WHO WRITE BAD ARTICLE AFTER BAD ARTICLE? WHY NOT GO AFTER THE BEAT WRITERS THAT MAKE STAR PLAYERS CRY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION DURING THEIR WEAKEST MOMENT?

WHO'S THE BEAT WRITER HERE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHO'S THE BEAT WRITER?

BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BEAT WRITER, DO YOU? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE KICKED WHEN YOU'RE DOWN, AND TOLD THAT YOU'RE FAT! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COME HOME AFTER A HARD DAY OF WORK AND HAVE NOTHING TO EAT BUT JAYHAWK COOKIES!

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THIS MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fsmfone_multicolour%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=a74272c013bc1268d460866bac89e54e65821d3a)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 08:12:09 AM
Bob Fescoe this morning... "Frank Martin has made it clear that he wants the job in Miami."

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 08, 2011, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 08:12:09 AM
Bob Fescoe this morning... "Frank Martin has made it clear that he wants the job in Miami."

 :facepalm:

Bob Fescoe has made it clear that he's horrible at his job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 08:26:31 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Do I Have To Say It Twice? Frank Martin has been contacted. They have spoken. You expect him to admit it? Come on. #PapaCaneKnows
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2011, 08:33:58 AM
until guppycane confirms it, it didn't happen
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 08:26:31 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Do I Have To Say It Twice? Frank Martin has been contacted. They have spoken. You expect him to admit it? Come on. #PapaCaneKnows


it's been fun, frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 08, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
papa cane is no EERhole
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 08, 2011, 08:56:56 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 08, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
papa cane is no EERhole
Oh man, hated that guy.  Still do.

"Yup, yup..."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 08:58:06 AM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
UM Basketball Update: I was told UM leadership has been in talks with Bobby Knight and others for guidance on candidate search.


I'm sure Knight told them to find a coach that emphasizes the shot fake, and most assuredly, he recommended the hiring of Will Spradling.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

ADJC should jump on this crap right away.  Imagine if in one press conference ADJC could announce Frank's departure and reveal his replacement.  It'd be like when your girlfriend breaks up with you and you immediately get a way hotter and way dirtier girlfriend the first night out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

Would prefer Pearl first. Then Kelvin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

Would prefer Pearl first. Then Kelvin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:21:19 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 08, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

Would prefer Pearl first. Then Kelvin.

someone should photoshop oscar in a purple suit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ltrain on April 08, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

http://www.nba.com/bucks/roster/index.html

saw him him on TV a couple of nights ago and was like "holy crap, thats kelvin sampson"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 08, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 08, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
hey meek, will you find out what kelvin sampson is doing?  also, tell him that ksu is interested in him when frank leaves.

Would prefer Pearl first. Then Kelvin.

No way, you gotta hire someone who has been out of the college game a year or two and made tons of contacts ala Huggins. Now if Martin bolts next year then you are correct.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: thebigcatbowski on April 08, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Quote from: thebigcatbowski on April 08, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
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Dude pulls suspenders off like a champ.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bozocat on April 08, 2011, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 08, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Quote from: thebigcatbowski on April 08, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
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Dude pulls suspenders off like a champ.

My retinas hurt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: thebigcatbowski on April 08, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
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WANT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 09:55:25 AM
Didn't realize Hi-Liter purple was the new school color.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 08, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
"WAKE UP, TIME TO DIE"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rettiger4Ever on April 08, 2011, 10:01:21 AM
Don't know how you feel about Andy Katz, but this was in his post yesterday....look at the very bottom...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6303916/nba-draft-decisions-ahead

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: Rettiger4Ever on April 08, 2011, 10:01:21 AM
Don't know how you feel about Andy Katz, but this was in his post yesterday....look at the very bottom...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6303916/nba-draft-decisions-ahead



yeah, discussed a few pages back
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rettiger4Ever on April 08, 2011, 10:03:19 AM
nevermind, just saw it posted back on page 493.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 10:08:13 AM
Quote
Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
In my opinion, from different people I've spoken to. I don't think Miami will make a strong financial commitment to basketball right now
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Cole Manbeck
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"I don’t know that Miami not having an A.D. present is prepared to put together the kind of package that would sway him in this direction.”
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
"At this time I know he is happy at Kansas State but he would listen to Miami," Rodriguez said.
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
Spoke to Frank Martin's mentor Shakey Rodriguez this morning about the Miami coaching vacancy and Frank Martin:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Frank would have to HATE working for Currie to go to that crap hole of a program with NO permanent athletics director.  If my coach is that unhappy, or that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), then please go. 

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Frank would have to HATE working for Currie to go to that cac hole of a program with NO permanent athletics director.  If my coach is that unhappy, or that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), then please go. 

 :users:

Frank would have to HATE his mother to not at least listen to an offer from Miami.  Do you want a coach who hates his own mother?  If my coach hates his own mother, then please fire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 08, 2011, 10:08:13 AM
Quote
Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
In my opinion, from different people I've spoken to. I don't think Miami will make a strong financial commitment to basketball right now
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
"I don’t know that Miami not having an A.D. present is prepared to put together the kind of package that would sway him in this direction.”
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
"At this time I know he is happy at Kansas State but he would listen to Miami," Rodriguez said.
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Cole Manbeck
Cole_Manbeck Cole Manbeck
Spoke to Frank Martin's mentor Shakey Rodriguez this morning about the Miami coaching vacancy and Frank Martin:

at this rate meek et al better start getting fitted for some clown suits calling themselves beat writers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Frank would have to HATE working for Currie to go to that cac hole of a program with NO permanent athletics director.  If my coach is that unhappy, or that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), then please go.  

 :users:

Frank would have to HATE his mother to not at least listen to an offer from Miami.  Do you want a coach who hates his own mother?  If my coach hates his own mother, then please fire him.

I don't think mothers should automatically be loved or respected just for the fact that they crap out a child
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Frank would have to HATE working for Currie to go to that cac hole of a program with NO permanent athletics director.  If my coach is that unhappy, or that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), then please go.  

 :users:

Frank would have to HATE his mother to not at least listen to an offer from Miami.  Do you want a coach who hates his own mother?  If my coach hates his own mother, then please fire him.

I don't think mothers should automatically be loved or respected just for the fact that they cac out a child

The love and respect comes from the breastfeeding and never shooting at someone with a gat. [/momma Talib]
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:34:45 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Frank would have to HATE working for Currie to go to that cac hole of a program with NO permanent athletics director.  If my coach is that unhappy, or that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), then please go. 

 :users:

Frank would have to HATE his mother to not at least listen to an offer from Miami.  Do you want a coach who hates his own mother?  If my coach hates his own mother, then please fire him.

I don't think mothers should automatically be loved or respected just for the fact that they cac out a child

its not a universal rule, that's fair, but Frank's mother should be automatically loved and respected.  she cacted out Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
I don't think mothers should automatically be loved or respected just for the fact that they crap out a child

not sure that's how it works. don't quote me, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 08, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
can I get a 4/8/11 confidence level from everyone?

i'm at 75% that he's leaving.  the more it drags out, the more the U has time to get its sh*t together.  that admin has to be the stupidest admin in the entire nation to not do so.  i mean, even weiser hired huggs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2011, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 08, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
can I get a 4/8/11 confidence level from everyone?

i'm at 75% that he's leaving.  the more it drags out, the more the U has time to get its sh*t together.  that admin has to be the stupidest admin in the entire nation to not do so.  i mean, even weiser hired huggs. 

I'm split about 50/50.  I've made peace with him leaving, it's the HCBU thing that gives me a migraine.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 10:55:52 AM
60/40 in favor leaving.

I've resigned myself to Steve Alford.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 10:57:30 AM
0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 08, 2011, 10:59:28 AM
I'm 50/50
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 10:59:56 AM
I'm 95% he stays.  I'll be shocked and have an epic meltdown that I may never fully recover from.   :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 08, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
10/90 leaving vs. staying.

He may have some religious moment that sways him or something, so I'm not comfortable going less than 10%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
at this rate meek et al better start getting fitted for some clown suits calling themselves beat writers.

Quoting guys that aren't players in the hiring process and who don't necessarily know what direction Miami is going is not news, it's speculation. Asking these HS coaches to comment about a situation that remains up in the air — you know, since Miami doesn't even have an athletic director in place — is like asking the weatherman if it will rain two weeks from now.

Don't get me wrong, speculation is fun, and I read it. But let's not act like it gets us any closer to knowing which direction Miami is headed with its coaching search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 08, 2011, 11:08:22 AM
50/50. Can't decide if I would hate him or not for leaving. I know I shouldnt (and probably wont) but it's really late in the game to be looking for a new coach. I will hate him, however, if Underwood is his replacement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2011, 11:20:35 AM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 08, 2011, 11:08:22 AM
50/50. Can't decide if I would hate him or not for leaving. I know I shouldnt (and probably wont) but it's really late in the game to be looking for a new coach. I will hate him, however, if Underwood is his replacement.

Currie wouldn't hire Underwood.  My guess is that Currie would go after an assistant to one of the elite coaches out there.


Are CB McGrath or WoJo old enough yet?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 08, 2011, 08:56:56 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 08, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
papa cane is no EERhole
Oh man, hated that guy.  Still do.

"Yup, yup..."

I forgot about him. So depressing. Remember when shakestheclown broke the Franklin to MD news?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I'm 70/30 he's gone.

It's obvious he's actively lobbying for the job behind the scenes and I do think there is something to the fact that he has broken off all communication with local media.

The only question in my mind is if the Miami idiots are smart enough to extend the offer.  At this point, I don't even think it's about money.  I think he'd go even for a sizeable paycut when you take into account the tax situation in Florida.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 08, 2011, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I think he'd go even for a sizeable paycut when you take into account the tax situation in Florida.

Cost of living in Miami>>>>>>>>>>Cost of living in Manhattan.

edit: not that it even matters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: Joker on April 08, 2011, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I think he'd go even for a sizeable paycut when you take into account the tax situation in Florida.

Cost of living in Miami>>>>>>>>>>Cost of living in Manhattan.

Meh. It's pretty much a wash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 11:36:11 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!

amazing how much butthurt there is out there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rcjh88 on April 08, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
I get the feeling that the longer this drags out the more likely Frank will stay. If he is their 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th option I don't see why he would want to go into a situation like that rather than stay at a place where he is wanted.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
I don't think Frank cares if there is an AD in place.  If he's willing to look past the shitty University/fan support, why the eff would he care about the AD?

I do question whether Miami will feel compelled to move on a basketball hire without first filling the AD spot.

It has been over a month since their AD spot was vacated.  You have to wonder how long the process will take for the basketball had coach replacement.  I guess, not that it really matters though, it gives them longer to get their moeny people together.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 12:01:33 PM
April 13th... this coming Wednesday begins the late signing period.  If Angel faxes in an LOI we are :emawkid: . If he doesn't fax one in after Friday we are  :goodbyecruelworld: .
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 08, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
I don't think Frank cares if there is an AD in place.  If he's willing to look past the cacty University/fan support, why the eff would he care about the AD?

I do question whether Miami will feel compelled to move on a basketball hire without first filling the AD spot.

It has been over a month since their AD spot was vacated.  You have to wonder how long the process will take for the basketball had coach replacement.  I guess, not that it really matters though, it gives them longer to get their moeny people together.

I'm not 100% convinced that Shalalalala would hire him.  If the AD submitted his name, and the New Times stuff came to her attention, she's going to veto him on the spot given what we 'think' we know about her.  Also, given his reputation as a 'fiery' and intense sideline coach, I'm thinking will hurt him as well.  Like others have said, she vetoed Leach.  Frank is a household name in college basketball, but the reason he is famous to some is why he's infamous to others.  There are a lot of programs, the "U" being one of them, that may shy away from it.  Remember that Miami is a private school that fancies themselves to be a lot more academic than they really are.  They may not want a ranting and raving coach to be the face of one of their most public programs.

Also, as much as we don't care, Frank's name is tied in with Shakey, the CLA guys, etc. down in Miami.  He's kind of associated with all of that craziness that the New Times keeps digging up, and I'm guessing the AD won't be strong enough to fight for him.  They'll go with the search firm and path of least resistance.

Frank lobbying for the job through the national media, or trying to get Art and Shakey to keep saying things like, "If Miami did this, and Miami did that, etc." are things he'd do regardless to try and get a pay bump here if he wasn't interested in the job.  Like I said earlier in the thread, this was his GOLDEN opportunity to get a big extension (or a gig down there), and it would appear that Miami isn't biting at all.  Currie won't extend him without someone actually coming at him, so the longer this drags out, the longer it would appear that they really are moving in a different direction, and he won't get a dime out if what should have been his big windfall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 12:14:12 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 12:01:33 PM
April 13th... this coming Wednesday begins the late signing period.  If Angel faxes in an LOI we are :emawkid: . If he doesn't fax one in after Friday we are  :goodbyecruelworld: .

Frank's smart enough to tell him to wait
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
@Cole_Manbeck
A new day, another the same story on Frank Martin and Miami: http://tinyurl.com/nbp7dc
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 12:16:56 PM
Should we email the Deadspin strip club article to Shalalallalala?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 08, 2011, 12:19:44 PM
Well look at that, Jason King can tweet while he's rimming Lew Perkins.   That's talent.






























Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 08, 2011, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!

Damn, Jason REALLY wants Frank out of this conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2011, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: Rettiger4Ever on April 08, 2011, 10:03:19 AM
nevermind, just saw it posted back on page 493.
owned sd with post #7, lmao.  sometimes they're just naturals at the bbs. well done ret4E.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 08, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on April 08, 2011, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!

No, King is butt hurt about how many times we owned him when he was the horrible KU beat writer.

He's really a pathetic hack, and it has nothing to do with his recent bouts of idiocy.  He's just a really, really stupid person.

Damn, Jason REALLY wants Frank out of this conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 08, 2011, 12:51:20 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
@Cole_Manbeck
A new day, another the same story on Frank Martin and Miami: http://tinyurl.com/nbp7dc
haters gonna hate!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
Life is much better without anything coming from Jason King.
That Baylor grad sure loves his Jayhawks doesn't he?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 08, 2011, 01:08:39 PM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!

Heard Jason King on the radio...total dipshit.  Ignorant.  Would be nice if some writers would actually do some research before they start spouting crap.

Damn, Jason REALLY wants Frank out of this conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 08, 2011, 01:11:30 PM
Everything that comes out of Baylor deserves nothing but our utmost scorn. King is just an extension of this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 06wildcat on April 08, 2011, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I'm 70/30 he's gone.

It's obvious he's actively lobbying for the job behind the scenes and I do think there is something to the fact that he has broken off all communication with local media.

The only question in my mind is if the Miami idiots are smart enough to extend the offer.  At this point, I don't even think it's about money.  I think he'd go even for a sizeable paycut when you take into account the tax situation in Florida.




Please post elsewhere.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
I try and never miss an opportunity to drag out this 2008 response to one of his articles on Beasley:

Quote
actually, the beasley's do have a hummer. that wasn't made up. just because Michael drives a Tahoe doesn't mean his mother doesn't drive a hummer or that his brother doesn't drive one. i promise you: it's true.
 
as far as jason's seats at bramlage being downgraded ... I don't think he'd mind. after this season there won't be much reason to go back there anyway.

i promise you: it's true.

won't be much reason to go back there anyway
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
I try and never miss an opportunity to drag out this 2008 response to one of his articles on Beasley:

Quote
actually, the beasley's do have a hummer. that wasn't made up. just because Michael drives a Tahoe doesn't mean his mother doesn't drive a hummer or that his brother doesn't drive one. i promise you: it's true.
 
as far as jason's seats at bramlage being downgraded ... I don't think he'd mind. after this season there won't be much reason to go back there anyway.

i promise you: it's true.

won't be much reason to go back there anyway

he wrote that in an article?? or where?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 08, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
warm up your twitter intimidation machines, motherfuckers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 08, 2011, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
I try and never miss an opportunity to drag out this 2008 response to one of his articles on Beasley:

Quote
actually, the beasley's do have a hummer. that wasn't made up. just because Michael drives a Tahoe doesn't mean his mother doesn't drive a hummer or that his brother doesn't drive one. i promise you: it's true.
 
as far as jason's seats at bramlage being downgraded ... I don't think he'd mind. after this season there won't be much reason to go back there anyway.

i promise you: it's true.

won't be much reason to go back there anyway

Those lines really should be rehashed to him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 08, 2011, 01:43:54 PM
King wrote that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 08, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 11:04:57 AM
Don't get me wrong, speculation is fun, and I read it.

boom, manbeck roasted you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 11:04:57 AM
Don't get me wrong, speculation is fun, and I read it.

boom, manbeck roasted you.

 :zzz:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 08, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
I try and never miss an opportunity to drag out this 2008 response to one of his articles on Beasley:

Quote
actually, the beasley's do have a hummer. that wasn't made up. just because Michael drives a Tahoe doesn't mean his mother doesn't drive a hummer or that his brother doesn't drive one. i promise you: it's true.
 
as far as jason's seats at bramlage being downgraded ... I don't think he'd mind. after this season there won't be much reason to go back there anyway.

i promise you: it's true.

won't be much reason to go back there anyway

he wrote that in an article?? or where?

He emailed me in response to some comment on one of his articles about Beasley's hummer. Wish I remembered the actual comment that got a response. Had something to do with Whitlock being escorted to his new, shitty seat in Bramlage after that article.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 08, 2011, 02:08:50 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
:zzz:

oh, now you're reading meek?   :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
Just wanted to use the zzz's. Hate it when people do it to me. Usually gets under peoples' skin.

Your response was pretty good, though.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
I should point out that Meek, much like J Mart, is a home run hitter. All the great ones are. He doesn't waste his time with bunt singles and rinky dink opposite field hits. When there's a big story, Meek will have it.

How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 08, 2011, 02:49:24 PM
Andy Katz:

Quote
Miami: Haith was a surprise choice at Missouri, leaving behind some serious talent in Reggie Johnson inside and Durand Scott on the perimeter. Miami isn't going to go after hometown coach Frank Martin of Kansas State. Former BC coach Al Skinner makes sense, given his previous success in the ACC, but it's unclear what direction the Canes will go at this juncture. Might Florida Atlantic's Mike Jarvis get another shot in a big-time conference?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?

Kellis had the :ck:/Bosco one. I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?

KellisgoEMAW had the :ck:/Bosco one. I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
1. Meek
2. GPC
3. goEMAW (no offense)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
I should point out that Meek, much like J Mart, is a home run hitter. All the great ones are. He doesn't waste his time with bunt singles and rinky dink opposite field hits. When there's a big story, Meek will have it.

How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?

your constant sticking-up-ed-ness of Austin isn't doing him any favors.  he knows he's a friend of goEMAW.  go back to sticking up for Kellis when frank is mean to him, he needs your help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:55:28 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
I should point out that Meek, much like J Mart, is a home run hitter. All the great ones are. He doesn't waste his time with bunt singles and rinky dink opposite field hits. When there's a big story, Meek will have it.

How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?

your constant sticking-up-ed-ness of Austin isn't doing him any favors.  he knows he's a friend of goEMAW.  go back to sticking up for Kellis when frank is mean to him, he needs your help.

I got bored with sticking up for Kellis. It isn't any fun.

Neither is this thread. That's why I tried to turn it into a media thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
sticking-up-ed-ness

 :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 08, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:55:28 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
I should point out that Meek, much like J Mart, is a home run hitter. All the great ones are. He doesn't waste his time with bunt singles and rinky dink opposite field hits. When there's a big story, Meek will have it.

How many stories of significance has anyone other than Meek and GPC broken on the K-State beat since J Mart left?

your constant sticking-up-ed-ness of Austin isn't doing him any favors.  he knows he's a friend of goEMAW.  go back to sticking up for Kellis when frank is mean to him, he needs your help.

I got bored with sticking up for Kellis. It isn't any fun.

Neither is this thread. That's why I tried to turn it into a media thread.

yeah, you tried really hard by making up what people say on the radio.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
1. Meek
2. GPC
3. goEMAW (no offense)

Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended. 

When I begin my position with GPC, you can change it back and bump it up to first.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
1. Meek
2. GPC
3. goEMAW (no offense)

Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended. 

yes ^
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
1. Meek
2. GPC
3. goEMAW (no offense)

Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended. 

When I begin my position with GPC, you can change it back and bump it up to first.

Cassidy is an underrated reporter.
And Manbeck has been working the phones calling into Miami, etc. — I like that.
And Kellis ... well, I really don't know. What is he doing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia. 

Beat you to the punch. Cassidy has already been contacted about a possibility with j rake enterprises, LLC, in the future.

He seemed very interested.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia. 

Beat you to the punch. Cassidy has already been contacted about a possibility with j rake enterprises, LLC, in the future.

He seemed very interested.



Gambling website?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 03:34:03 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia. 

Beat you to the punch. Cassidy has already been contacted about a possibility with j rake enterprises, LLC, in the future.

He seemed very interested.



A true professional knows how to say thanks, but no thanks, and not burn the bridge at the same time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 08, 2011, 03:34:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia. 
Cassidy is great but if you were to hire D. Snott* TMZ free lancer (see what I did there, changed Scott to Snott)*
there would probably have to be a spin off goEMAW site made.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 08, 2011, 03:36:22 PM
This thread has gone full rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

MODS!!!

 :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
I guess some people are pretty convinced Frank is staying after the Andy Katz news this morning.  To them it's a non-issue at this point.  I, myself, am not 100% comfortable until Miami announces the new coach or Frank signs something new.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 08, 2011, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
I guess some people are pretty convinced Frank is staying after the Andy Katz news this morning.  To them it's a non-issue at this point.  I, myself, am not 100% comfortable until Miami announces the new coach or Frank signs something new.

you're thinking of the manbeck news a couple of days back, but yeah, it effectively put a clownsuit on the rumormongering mediaspects and set emaw's mind at rest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 08, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
I guess some people are pretty convinced Frank is staying after the Andy Katz news this morning.  To them it's a non-issue at this point.  I, myself, am not 100% comfortable until Miami announces the new coach or Frank signs something new.

you're thinking of the manbeck news a couple of days back, but yeah, it effectively put a clownsuit on the rumormongering mediaspects and set emaw's mind at rest.

regardless of what legitimate sports journalist wrote in a factual, well written article, the article still is static.  things can change when the only thing  holding something back is people not being incredibly, absurdly stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 08, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
things can change when the only thing  holding something back is people not being incredibly, absurdly stupid.

great line right here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 08, 2011, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 08, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia.  

Beat you to the punch. Cassidy has already been contacted about a possibility with j rake enterprises, LLC, in the future.

He seemed very interested.



Gambling website?
If you wanted a legit gambling website the first person you would hire would be Chingon* and his magical computer predictions systems (>73% accurate against the spread this year in cbb).  

*(That's me, but I am not looking for employment in that area as of this time)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2011, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 08, 2011, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 08, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 08, 2011, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 08, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: sys on April 08, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 08, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Change GPC to Cassidy and I won't be offended.

cassidy is so much better than the rest of those retards (suck it, synder), i don't know how he can stand it.

when I get stupid rich hopefully in a few days via some crazy scheme I am planning on hiring him to work for goEMAW.  so, use your now unused jrake prayers on my crazy scheme.  tia.  

Beat you to the punch. Cassidy has already been contacted about a possibility with j rake enterprises, LLC, in the future.

He seemed very interested.



Gambling website?
If you wanted a legit gambling website the first person you would hire would be Chingon* and his magical computer predictions systems (>73% accurate against the spread this year in cbb).  

*(That's me, but I am not looking for employment in that area as of this time)

No, I am assuming that j_Rake inc will be a gambling site.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 08, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 08, 2011, 04:50:31 PM
If you wanted a legit gambling website the first person you would hire would be Chingon* and his magical computer predictions systems (>73% accurate against the spread this year in cbb).  

Is that documented? If so, quit your day job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 08, 2011, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 08, 2011, 01:08:39 PM
Quote
mellinger Sam Mellinger
Wonder if @garyparrishcbs is getting a whole bunch of hate from #KState fans for writing that Martin might leave http://bit.ly/ensmKR #IDid

Quote
JasonKingYahoo Jason King

@mellinger @garyparrishcbs What? You actually suggested that there are more attractive jobs out there than the one at K-State? How DARE you!

Heard Jason King on the radio...total dipshit.  Ignorant.  Would be nice if some writers would actually do some research before they start spouting crap.

Damn, Jason REALLY wants Frank out of this conference.


Didn't Jason King speculate that Frank would be a candidate at UNLV???  I think his rationale was Las Vegas is a cooler place than Manhattan, KS. 

Whatta rough ridin' tard. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CrushNasty on April 09, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
 :bracketmouse: off to the deep internet thread to find a kid to punch once Frank leaves.  ( :horrorsurprise: not like that, creeps.)

Then I'll say sorry once we hire Pearl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2011, 11:03:22 AM
Quote from: CrushNasty on April 09, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
:bracketmouse: off to the deep internet thread to find a kid to punch once Frank leaves.  ( :horrorsurprise: not like that, creeps.)

Then I'll say sorry once we hire Pearl.
:confused:

Did I miss something???  Like 2 posts ago Frank wasn't leaving, now he is again.   :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 09, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Quote
SedanoShow Jorge Sedano

This shouldn't be a surprise. Was told Miami thru intermediary has told Frank Martin's peeps that the hoops job will pay about 1mil.

That's allegedly less than what Haith made & allegedly less than what Martin makes. Haith's salary was allegedly putting budget in the red

So, UM allegedly wants to keep budget at a reasonable level. So, unless a Board of Trustee Member steps up. Frank Martin ain't happening
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 09, 2011, 12:51:37 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 09, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
Miami couldn't be more 'tarded
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 09, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Sedano's word is gold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Sedano's word is gold.

maybe you and meek can find mcdermott and all drown your martin-themed sorrows together?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FHSU92 on April 09, 2011, 01:00:21 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 09, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Quote
SedanoShow Jorge Sedano

This shouldn't be a surprise. Was told Miami thru intermediary has told Frank Martin's peeps that the hoops job will pay about 1mil.

That's allegedly less than what Haith made & allegedly less than what Martin makes. Haith's salary was allegedly putting budget in the red

So, UM allegedly wants to keep budget at a reasonable level. So, unless a Board of Trustee Member steps up. Frank Martin ain't happening

Do they realize FM's asst coaches are gonna cost about $700k, too

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
They're going after a Jarvis or Skinner.   They'll crawl to/back to the ACC for $1 million a year.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 09, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: sys on April 09, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Sedano's word is gold.

maybe you and meek can find mcdermott and all drown your martin-themed sorrows together?

What does this even mean?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 01:13:57 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: sys on April 09, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
maybe you and meek can find mcdermott and all drown your martin-themed sorrows together?

What does this even mean?

i equated you and meek with necky mcdermott.  it's an insult.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 09, 2011, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: sys on April 09, 2011, 01:13:57 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: sys on April 09, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
maybe you and meek can find mcdermott and all drown your martin-themed sorrows together?

What does this even mean?

i equated you and meek with necky mcdermott.  it's an insult.

:zzz: (trying it again)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 01:15:12 PM
:zzz: (trying it again)

the one i hate is this one.   :facepalm:


makes me mad and i don't know how to respond.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 09, 2011, 01:25:28 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 09, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Sedano's word is gold.

Because of his use of 3 "allegedly"s in one tweet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: oodfan on April 09, 2011, 01:37:16 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 08, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
I guess some people are pretty convinced Frank is staying after the Andy Katz news this morning.  To them it's a non-issue at this point.  I, myself, am not 100% comfortable until Miami announces the new coach or Frank signs something new.

Shouldn't be long....

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/09/2158988/um-could-name-basketball-coach.html#
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: oodfan on April 09, 2011, 01:37:16 PM
Shouldn't be long....

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/09/2158988/um-could-name-basketball-coach.html#

Quote
Names that have emerged are University of Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Richmond's Chris Mooney, and John Capel and John Pelphrey, both of whom were recently fired, Capel by Oklahoma and Pelphrey by Arkansas.

from that list, i'd choose capel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 09, 2011, 01:51:53 PM
my god, miami is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (<---suck it, bill).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Amaker isn't going there.  Mooney isn't going there.  Hell, I doubt Davis would go there.  Capel would be a home run hire for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
jeff capel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 09, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
jeff capel

I think you mean John Capel (source: Miami Herald)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Amaker isn't going there.  Mooney isn't going there.  Hell, I doubt Davis would go there.  Capel would be a home run hire for them.

I know Capel is probably the best they are going to do, but wouldn't they basically be hiring Haith again?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-09/martin-and-miami-no-news-good-news

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
Quote
As we all know, Martin can be quick to stiffen his lip and put up his fists when he perceives any kind of disrespect. That's fine when you're dealing with people who don't matter – i.e., the guys with notepads
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I rough ridin' love Austin.  he is bitb at non recruiting stuff. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 09, 2011, 05:09:28 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I rough ridin' love Austin.  he is bitb at non recruiting stuff. 

Should we compile a list of BITB's for their respective field?

Radio: Kietz
Non recruiting Stuff: Austin
Destroying People: Doyel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 09, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
dear journalists who read this thread,

please gets specific details/stories/anecdotes from anonymous sources about why currie hates frank and either post them here, write an article about it or pm me. 

your most avid reader,
catzacker
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 09, 2011, 05:36:07 PM
Miami has an interim A.D. running the ship and he makes Bob Krause look qualified. then this..
Quote
Keep in mind, too, that UM president Donna Shalala is an academic and a politician (in the Clinton administration, but still),


cackle....Shalalalallallalalla would HATE Frank anywhere near her office. I can just tell.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 09, 2011, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 09, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
dear journalists who read this thread,

please gets specific details/stories/anecdotes from anonymous sources about why currie hates frank and either post them here, write an article about it or pm me. 

your most avid reader,
catzacker

Seconded, only I am not an avid reader of yours, but am confident that someone will post it here shortly after you write it.

TIA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 05:43:45 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 09, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Amaker isn't going there.  Mooney isn't going there.  Hell, I doubt Davis would go there.  Capel would be a home run hire for them.

I know Capel is probably the best they are going to do, but wouldn't they basically be hiring Haith again?

capel had some weird crap go bad on him at ou.  i'm not sure there's reason to expect that anything similar would ever happen again.  i think he could be good somewhere (not necc. miami, which may be an impossible task).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 05:51:11 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-09/martin-and-miami-no-news-good-news

it's john pelphrey, austin and j.  what a joke.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 05:57:18 PM
I enjoy sys's media rampages like no other.  you are really good at them. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: goldenticket on April 09, 2011, 06:16:14 PM
in non cats news

Quote from: ESPN
Larry Brown has been in touch with UNLV athletic director Jim Livengood about the Runnin' Rebels coaching vacancy, the former Charlotte Bobcats coach told SI.com

Brown, 70, was fired by the Bobcats in December but said in January that he'd like to coach again.

"I don't want to end the way this one ended," Brown said.

UNLV released a statement Friday that interviews were complete.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0% on April 09, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Just sayin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: 0% on April 09, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Just sayin.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdy.snimg.com%2Fstory-image%2F1%2F78%2F179334%2F22083-330-0.jpg&hash=6a71c9238dd4b38e290065dd25032e304d430dac)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2011, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 09, 2011, 05:43:45 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 09, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Amaker isn't going there.  Mooney isn't going there.  Hell, I doubt Davis would go there.  Capel would be a home run hire for them.

I know Capel is probably the best they are going to do, but wouldn't they basically be hiring Haith again?

capel had some weird crap go bad on him at ou.  i'm not sure there's reason to expect that anything similar would ever happen again.  i think he could be good somewhere (not necc. miami, which may be an impossible task).

Wasn't it all about the highly recruited players rebelling?  Is there a chance he wouldn't of landed these players if the better schools didn't opt for someone else due to their headcasedness?  Or did he just lose control?  I'll agree it maybe a perfect storm of mumped that occurred but I'd have to think he had some blame in it all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 09, 2011, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: 0% on April 09, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Just sayin.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdy.snimg.com%2Fstory-image%2F1%2F78%2F179334%2F22083-330-0.jpg&hash=6a71c9238dd4b38e290065dd25032e304d430dac)

Frank must really hate Currie to want to work for one of the Muppets from the "Dark Crystal".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 09, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 09, 2011, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: 0% on April 09, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Just sayin.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdy.snimg.com%2Fstory-image%2F1%2F78%2F179334%2F22083-330-0.jpg&hash=6a71c9238dd4b38e290065dd25032e304d430dac)

Frank must really hate Currie to want to work for one of the Muppets from the "Dark Crystal".
That's not Billy Crystal from Princess Bride? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
doom, your sig is out of hand. jesus christ.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 09, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
doom, your sig is out of hand. jesus christ.

every thread is now the 2011 recruiting thread.  took me a little while - you'll get used to it too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 09, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 09, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
doom, your sig is out of hand. jesus christ.

every thread is now the 2011 recruiting thread.  took me a little while - you'll get used to it too.

Why don't you effers like our recruits?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 10, 2011, 12:36:55 AM
Quote from: doom on April 09, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
Why don't you effers like our recruits?

doom, where are the other three?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 10, 2011, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I rough ridin' love Austin.  he is bitb at non recruiting stuff. 

GPC hates him.  One guy calls him "Weak" instead of Meek.

There's a thread eerily similar to EMAWgeddon's Jake thread where they really gay-bash the hell out of that OP. 

Best of both worlds:

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Re: Austin Meek adds a log to the Martin v Currie fire...   Reply
a) Martin NEVER courted Miami.
b) There is no rift with Currie.
c) Meek is not attracted to women.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 01:12:15 AM

GPC hates him.  One guy calls him "Weak" instead of Meek.


I like to call him Squawstin Beak which is a lot more hurtful to him.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 10, 2011, 07:59:55 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
I like to call him Squawstin Beak which is a lot more hurtful to him.

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2011, 09:03:41 AM
I bet Old_School_Cat had to adjust his suspenders three times while typing that 15-word post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 10, 2011, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I effing love Austin.  he is bitb at non recruiting stuff. 

GPC hates him.  One guy calls him "Weak" instead of Meek.

There's a thread eerily similar to EMAWgeddon's Jake thread where they really gay-bash the hell out of that OP. 

Best of both worlds:

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Re: Austin Meek adds a log to the Martin v Currie fire...   Reply
a) Martin NEVER courted Miami.
b) There is no rift with Currie.
c) Meek is not attracted to women.


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Considering where he probably gets his inside info, you could fill the Grand Canyon with the information Meek knows compared to him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 07:59:55 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
I like to call him Squawstin Beak which is a lot more hurtful to him.

:horrorsurprise:

Sometimes you've just got to go for the jugular with these people, Trim.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 10, 2011, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 07:59:55 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
I like to call him Squawstin Beak which is a lot more hurtful to him.

:horrorsurprise:

Sometimes you've just got to go for the jugular with these people, Trim.

I never thought I of all people would have to take lessons on going for the jugular, but you're right.

How about Squawkstin Beak from Blowpeka?  Because he likes to blow dudes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2011, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I rough ridin' love Austin.  he is bitb at non recruiting stuff. 

GPC hates him.  One guy calls him "Weak" instead of Meek.

OMG LOL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 10:44:39 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 10, 2011, 07:59:55 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 10, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
I like to call him Squawstin Beak which is a lot more hurtful to him.

:horrorsurprise:

Sometimes you've just got to go for the jugular with these people, Trim.

I never thought I of all people would have to take lessons on going for the jugular, but you're right.

How about Squawkstin Beak from Blowpeka?  Because he likes to blow dudes.


Hey, if the shoe fits. 

Squawk.  Check.

Beaker.  Check.

Really GAY!  CHECK.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 10, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/austin-meek/2011-04-09/martin-and-miami-no-news-good-news

 :bwpopcorn:

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 10, 2011, 02:52:59 PM
rice to unlv.  per lotsa tweets.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Sports by Brooks
Mizzou: The job was offered to Tubby but he gave Alden impossible contract terms that Tubby knew wouldn't be fulfilled. (It wasn't just about money.) Tubby does this every offseason looking to upgrade his situation at his current school. Open secret. The job was never offered to Painter or Alford. Alford never had any contact with Alden or Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/10/2159809/search-for-um-basketball-coach.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 10, 2011, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Sports by Brooks
Mizzou: The job was offered to Tubby but he gave Alden impossible contract terms that Tubby knew wouldn't be fulfilled. (It wasn't just about money.) Tubby does this every offseason looking to upgrade his situation at his current school. Open secret. The job was never offered to Painter or Alford. Alford never had any contact with Alden or Mizzou.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 11, 2011, 09:21:43 AM
Quote from: doom on April 09, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 09, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
doom, your sig is out of hand. jesus christ.

every thread is now the 2011 recruiting thread.  took me a little while - you'll get used to it too.

Why don't you effers like our recruits?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpackinsider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F10%2Fangelrod.jpg&hash=a2ae48b68c18664e690c7e3eaea76def4bddf81c)

OT: Bigfoot's floppy dick sighting: upper-right corner.
You can't un-see it.  Have a merry Monday.   :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CatsNShocks on April 11, 2011, 10:50:49 AM
 :jerk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
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The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 11, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
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The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.

if they could just finish this already so we can move on with our lives that would be terrific
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
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The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.

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Thought you said Jim Ferry already got the job? RT @AdamZagoria: Multiple sources saying Steve Masiello to Manhattan (jaspers) is `almost done`
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 11, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
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The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.

if they could just finish this already so we can move on with our lives that would be terrific

most of us moved on a long time ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 11, 2011, 10:58:12 AM
Would anyone complain if I modded doom's sig? tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 11, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
Quote
The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.

if they could just finish this already so we can move on with our lives that would be terrific

most of us moved on a long time ago

It was over when they said they were going with a search firm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 11, 2011, 10:58:12 AM
Would anyone complain if I modded doom's sig? tia.

Please add the advertisements from the "LHC Bill Snyder hates the "R" word thread".

TIA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 11, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 11, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Finalists for Miami job
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The Miami Herald reported Saturday that the finalists are Richmond's Chris Mooney, Harvard's Tommy Amaker, Murray State's Billy Kennedy, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Davis, Auburn's Tony Barbee, as well as Jeff Capel and John Pelphrey, fired recently by Oklahoma and Arkansas.

if they could just finish this already so we can move on with our lives that would be terrific

most of us moved on a long time ago

It was over when they said they were going with a search firm.

I know I'm being a bitch, but I sorta have the "what, Frank isn't good enough for you?" feelings that we've been insulted.  Haha, I'm a woman.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 11, 2011, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 11, 2011, 10:58:12 AM
Would anyone complain if I modded doom's sig? tia.
please
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
How soon and where will we see the first, "I wish Frank would have went to Miami post".

I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
How soon and where will we see the first, "I wish Frank would have went to Miami post".

I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-kansasst-martin

Frank is just so "hard" to read.   Excellent job getting the message out to Miami that he's really not making $1.5 million a year.   

What's next Frank, a banner behind a plane over Coral Gables?



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 12:54:08 PM
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MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP)—Florida native Frank Martin says he hasn’t heard from the University of Miami about its vacant coaching position and while he and his family are happy at Kansas State he will always listen to other offers.

The 2010 Big 12 coach of the year, who has become wildly popular with Kansas State fans, also said Monday in an interview with The Associated Press that in the last two years he has been approached by several other schools with talk of significant pay boosts.

“I’ve never had any other options but to be at K-State this year. And I haven’t had any desire but to be at K-State this year,” Martin said.


When Frank Haith left Miami last week to take the job at Missouri, Martin immediately became the center of speculation in both Kansas and Miami. Martin, born and raised in Miami and the son of a Cuban immigrant, was a successful high school coach there and seemed a natural fit for the job.

But the Hurricanes have not called, Martin said. He said that was not necessarily a disappointment.

“I love it here,” said Martin, who is 95-43 in four seasons at Kansas State. “My family loves it here.”

He wonders if a misunderstanding about his salary might have discouraged the Hurricanes.

“Everyone’s reporting that my salary is $1.55 million (annually). Actually, my salary is $1.1 million,” he said. “Now, I’m an old high school teacher who was making 32 grand when I moved to Boston, and I’m extremely grateful and thankful for the salary I make right now.

“If I stayed the length of the (five-year) contract and I collect every bonus on the contract, it will average out to $1.55. And you know what? There is a chance that the University of Miami never called because they think I make $1.5,” he said. “There’s a chance just because it was released at $1.55 the University of Miami said, ‘We can’t call him. Why waste our time? We can’t pay him.”’

Martin said many people urged him to pursue the Miami job.

“I’ve had numerous friends call me, countless people in that community begging me to go back home,” he said. “The one thing that’s unfair to the University of Miami is that all the media people, locally and nationally, are saying it’s not a good job. And that’s not right. But UM never called. So I have no idea. And I’m not pursuing other jobs. I’ve never chased a job in my life.”

Although he has no desire to leave, Martin says he would always listen to another offer.

“I’m never going to say I’m not listening to anybody. Someone might call and it might be an opportunity, a new challenge, something that intrigues me,” he said. “It might be an (athletic director) that I’ve known my whole life and he says, ‘Frank, I need you.’ I’m never going to come out and say I’m not going to listen.”

The Wildcats won a team-record 29 games and advanced to the Elite Eight in 2009-10 and Martin became a hot coaching commodity then.

“I’ve had job opportunities here the last two years and I haven’t talked much about them,” he said. “They’ve called, they’ve inquired. They throw numbers at me and I’ve said no thank you. And for major salary increases.”

The Wildcats finished 23-11 this season, ousted in the first weekend of the NCAA tournament by Wisconsin. It was an odd year: Kansas State was ranked No. 3 in the preseason poll and picked as a favorite in the Big 12.

Instead, two post players—Freddy Asprilla and Wally Judge—quit a struggling team and Martin installed a new offense just as league play was getting under way. The Wildcats responded and got hot enough to knock off Kansas and Texas headed into postseason play.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
Jesus Christ, Frank.  Why don't you just call a press conference to beg Miami to offer you 1 million dollars to go home?  WTF?!?!?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:

it'll be as soon as the transfer(s) come out, but dax may have some competition for the first to get in the punch.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
This is what a Pay Frank campaign looks like when it doesn't get goEMAW's full backing and management.   :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 12:58:49 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
How soon and where will we see the first, "I wish Frank would have went to Miami post".

I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-kansasst-martin

Frank is just so "hard" to read.   Excellent job getting the message out to Miami that he's really not making $1.5 million a year.   

What's next Frank, a banner behind a plane over Coral Gables?



you think Miami didn't know how much he actually makes?? :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
This is what a Pay Frank campaign looks like when it doesn't get goEMAW's full backing and management.   :lol:

i can't believe katz would have signed off on those quotes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2011, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:

it'll be as soon as the transfer(s) come out, but dax may have some competition for the first to get in the punch.  
it's already been posted, by me
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 11, 2011, 01:03:19 PM
Who wrote that previous AP article?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
LMAO, amateur hour. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
This is what a Pay Frank campaign looks like when it doesn't get goEMAW's full backing and management.   :lol:

"Pay Me.  Please?"

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 01:15:44 PM
Yeah, we should start a consulting offshoot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
poor Frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 11, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
:(
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
poor Frank. 

eff him (transfers + begging miami to hire him).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
poor Frank. 

eff him (transfers + begging miami to hire him).

we get oscar Pearl.  and incredible bbs'n during off season.  easily worth the pain.  Frank gets paid.  we all win.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
we get oscar Pearl.  and incredible bbs'n during off season.  easily worth the pain.  Frank gets paid.  we all win.

the time for everyone to win came and went.  now the only way we can win is if martin loses.  it's us against him, and i'm on our side.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2011, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
poor Frank. 

eff him (transfers + begging miami to hire him).

we get oscar Pearl.  and incredible bbs'n during off season.  easily worth the pain.  Frank gets paid.  we all win.
You take this and run with it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
<----still wants Frank to win.   :pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dub on April 11, 2011, 02:00:52 PM
If we get oscar, would it just be another year long Bob?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dub on April 11, 2011, 02:00:52 PM
If we get oscar, would it just be another year long Bob?

Would last more than a year and wouldn't have the immediate impact that Huggs did.  No time off to make his ties, and may have some cred issues on the 'cruit trail.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
<----still wants Frank to win.   :pbj:

pack your bags, benedictnazi cane.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
I love it at K-State, BTW did you know I only make $1.1 million a year, I want you to be clear on that, yeah, that's one point one, I mean I could make more with all my bonuses and stuff, but just 1.1 million for now.    


You got that right, one point one million??   But this is my own little paradise you know.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



BUT...BUT...FAN SUPPORT!!!!! :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
I love it at K-State, BTW did you know I only make $1.1 million a year, I want you to be clear on that, yeah, that's one point one, I mean I could make more with all my bonuses and stuff, but just 1.1 million for now.    


You got that right, one point one million??   But this is my own little paradise you know.





And no one has even asked me to leave this year.  I mean, I love it here and my family loves it here but I would totally listen to someone if they wanted me to coach elsewhere.  I mean hell, all my friends and family have begged me to go back to Miami but they haven't even contacted me or anything.  Totally love MHK though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 11, 2011, 02:07:53 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:28:35 PM
poor Frank.  

eff him (transfers + begging miami to hire him).

we get oscar Pearl.  and incredible bbs'n during off season.  easily worth the pain.  Frank gets paid.  we all win.

The only way it's win-win-win is if we wait one more year, then Pearl will be cleared, and Frank will have had enough of Currie that he's giddy to leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:08:40 PM
I can't help but picture Frank as Nathan Thurm.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!
I'd be pretty damn cool with that season next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.  Would rather this than to be bent over like Purdue and MU fans were.   :dunno:

Pay Frank.  I am cool with that.  

I don't have a good feeling about our next hire if it happens sometime in the next 3-5 yrs.  Would rather pay frank and keep moving on.

Isn't $1.1M kinda chump change anyway?

 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
I hope Frank stays.  He'll be angrier than ever next year.

But, if he gets the call, he's gone.  It should be obvious that the dude will even take a substantial pay cut to go back to Miami.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!

<-- am very satisfied with this as an avg. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!


<-- am very satisfied with this as an avg. 

That's loser talk and that's sure as hell not what Frank's been selling.  Bet you guys were totally happy with last year's football season then, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would effing love him for that cac.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!

I'm plenty cool with second round exits and fourth place in the Big XII at this point.

Two decades of futility against KU in Manhattan and utter irrelevance within the college basketball landscape will do that.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!


<-- am very satisfied with this as an avg. 

That's loser talk and that's sure as hell not what Frank's been selling.  Bet you guys were totally happy with last year's football season then, right?

I guess I didn't realize that the football team finished the year ranked and played in the Alamo Bowl (football equivalent to our basketball season).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!


<-- am very satisfied with this as an avg. 

That's loser talk and that's sure as hell not what Frank's been selling.  Bet you guys were totally happy with last year's football season then, right?

You obviously don't read if you think I was happy with anything associated with last year's football season.

22+ wins per season as an avg, eff yeah I'll take that and run for the next several years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Poor Frank.  He wants to leave so bad.



Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!


<-- am very satisfied with this as an avg. 

That's loser talk and that's sure as hell not what Frank's been selling.  Bet you guys were totally happy with last year's football season then, right?

I guess I didn't realize that the football team finished the year ranked and played in the Alamo Bowl (football equivalent to our basketball season).

The football team wasn't preseason #3 either.  Just saying that if just being decent is your thing, than I imagine your life is pretty sad.  WE MADE IT TO THE ALAMO BOWL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 11, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I don't quite get the play here...

Frank has no leverage for a raise if Miami hasn't called.
Miami knows Frank would listen


So why bother admitting the things he said in the last article?

Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
So, with this article now in tow...and Frank has essentially resorted to trying to orchestrate a job offer from Miami through the media, he at this point couldn't give two cacs if he alienates the entire fan base and university that he works for.

If I'm Miami, get on the phone and simply throw out a low ball offer.  You can have him for cheap because it appears Frank is willing to take a considerable pay cut if it means getting the hell out of Dodge.

And this isn't about leveraging for a raise at K-State.  This is about wanting out.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 11, 2011, 02:32:16 PM
The fact that Miami didn't even seriously consider Frank speaks volumes about his perceived coaching ability.  We'll see if he can win without a guy like Pullen hitting big shot after big shot.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
lol at everyone's reactions  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Frank sounds a lot like Mizzou did during the whole conference realignment thing. "If the Big 10 calls, we will listen."

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
So, with this article now in tow...and Frank has essentially resorted to trying to orchestrate a job offer from Miami through the media, he at this point couldn't give two cacs if he alienates the entire fan base and university that he works for.

If I'm Miami, get on the phone and simply throw out a low ball offer.  You can have him for cheap because it appears Frank is willing to take a considerable pay cut if it means getting the hell out of Dodge.

And this isn't about leveraging for a raise at K-State.  This is about wanting out.





Seems like if he just wanted out, he would have simply had his agent contact Miami directly.  I'm thinking Frank wants more money but, for right now, a better job hasn't presented itself.  Just throw out an article like this, let the KState fans know that he's not getting paid as well as most thought and let everyone know that he is willing to entertain offers from other schools.  Our fanbase will freak out and Currie will pay him more money.  In the next few years, when a really good opportunity is open, he bolts with extra cash in his pocket.  (Possibly to help with his buyout?)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 02:32:16 PM
The fact that Miami didn't even seriously consider Frank speaks volumes about his perceived coaching ability.  We'll see if he can win without a guy like Pullen hitting big shot after big shot.  
One of your more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posts, and that says a lot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 02:32:16 PM
The fact that Miami didn't even seriously consider Frank speaks volumes about his perceived coaching ability.  We'll see if he can win without a guy like Pullen hitting big shot after big shot.  

Would you say that Miami tea-bagged Frank?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 02:32:16 PM
The fact that Miami didn't even seriously consider Frank speaks volumes about his perceived coaching ability.  We'll see if he can win without a guy like Pullen hitting big shot after big shot.  
One of your more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posts, and that says a lot.

Dude, Frank is only good cause he brought in good players.  Didn't you know that?  I'd like to see him win with shitty players, that would prove what kind of coach he really is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
if goEMAW was leading the Pay Frank campaign again Frank would have come out of that piece sounding like an underpaid feel good story instead of Douchy McWantout.  Since I know Katz reads the board this is his open invitation to contact me about once again securing our services  :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Quote
University of Miami officials flew to Boston on Monday to meet with Harvard's Tommy Amaker in an attempt to woo the Crimson coach to the ACC school, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

Amaker, who played and later was an assistant coach at Duke, coached Harvard to its first Ivy League title this past season. The Crimson shared the crown with Princeton and then lost the Ivy League playoff game on a buzzer-beater.

The Crimson then lost at Oklahoma State in the first round of the NIT, finishing 23-7 (12-2 in the Ivy).

Miami is searching for a replacement for Frank Haith, who took the Missouri job earlier this month.

Amaker has already coached in power-six leagues, serving head coach stints at Seton Hall and Michigan, in addition to being an assistant at Duke.

Amaker has told ESPN.com on a number of occasions how much he likes coaching at Harvard and how he wants to coach the Crimson to the NCAA tournament. The Crimson will be the Ivy League favorites next season with the majority of the roster returning, including Ivy League player of the year Keith Wright.

Amaker's chief Ivy rival -- Princeton -- is searching for a head coach after Sydney Johnson abruptly left the school to go to Fairfield.

In addition, Amaker and his wife, who also works at Harvard, have told people around them they love living in Boston and working at the school while trying to revitalize college basketball in the Ivy League at Harvard.

Amaker was contacted by the Atlanta-based Dan Parker search firm last week. Miami is searching for an athletic director, too. The basketball coaching search has been conducted by assistant athletic director Anthony Hernandez in conjunction with the search firm.

The Miami Herald reported that Miami interviewed VCU athletic director Norwood Teague (who just got Shaka Smart to stay on as basketball coach after the Final Four), Cal athletic director Sandy Barbour and Wisconsin assistant athletic director Michael Kelly, for its athletic director job. But the San Jose Mercury News reported Monday that Barbour isn't interested in the position and refuted that she interviewed for the position, saying there was only a phone conversation and there was no interest from Barbour.

Meanwhile, Kansas State coach Frank Martin would listen to Miami and would be willing to go home to his native Miami, according to multiple sources. But those same sources told ESPN.com that the search firm called Martin's representatives and said that Miami and the search firm had no interest in pursuing Martin.

Another coach, who is on Miami's short list, is Wisconsin-Milwaukee's Rob Jeter. Miami president Donna Shalala was a former president at Wisconsin. Jeter was a former assistant coach at Wisconsin under Bo Ryan and if Kelly were to land the athletic director's job that could help Jeter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 11, 2011, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 02:32:16 PM
The fact that Miami didn't even seriously consider Frank speaks volumes about his perceived coaching ability.  We'll see if he can win without a guy like Pullen hitting big shot after big shot.  
One of your more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posts, and that says a lot.

Dude, Frank is only good cause he brought in good players.  Didn't you know that?  I'd like to see him win with cacty players, that would prove what kind of coach he really is.



Huggins brought in Pullen.  We've already covered this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:47:06 PM
How much Frank worth to this K-State fan right now?

$1.6 a year tops. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
Dax, would you say that Frank is "face down, ass up" towards Miami right now? I think it might sound that way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 02:51:19 PM
I think it's Frank saying he needs an "I have to put up with dorkstore Currie" raise.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
Dax, would you say that Frank is "face down, ass up" towards Miami right now? I think it might sound that way.

The Crew thinks so.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  

"i will always listen.  and just so you are completely clear, don't think you have to pay me 1.55, i don't know where that idea came from, 1.1 is fine, it's more than enough.  really, just call me, please call."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  

That's not all he said, though. He went on to say that he thinks the reason Miami hasn't called him is that they might think he makes 1.5 million instead of 1.1 million. He also said that Miami has unfairly been called a bad job. It sounded like he was interviewing for the Miami job, only Miami doesn't want anything to do with him.

If Frank really wants to stay and is just trying to get a raise, he should probably find himself a better agent.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer. 

That's not all he said, though. He went on to say that he thinks the reason Miami hasn't called him is that they might think he makes 1.5 million instead of 1.1 million. He also said that Miami has unfairly been called a bad job. It sounded like he was interviewing for the Miami job, only Miami doesn't want anything to do with him.

If Frank really wants to stay and is just trying to get a raise, he should probably find himself a better agent.

He can keep his agent to do boring contract writing and stuff; he just needs to hire goEMAW PR.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Probably realized that we're not cool with second round exits and fourth place anymore.  Miami fans would rough ridin' love him for that crap.  Hell, some of them might even show up for the games, IN PERSON!!!
I'd be pretty damn cool with that season next year.

we need to find tucker and get the message out:  media reports that kstate fans are not cool with second round exits and fourth place are inaccurate.  we will accept less.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  

That's not all he said, though. He went on to say that he thinks the reason Miami hasn't called him is that they might think he makes 1.5 million instead of 1.1 million. He also said that Miami has unfairly been called a bad job. It sounded like he was interviewing for the Miami job, only Miami doesn't want anything to do with him.

If Frank really wants to stay and is just trying to get a raise, he should probably find himself a better agent.

"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
So, with this article now in tow...and Frank has essentially resorted to trying to orchestrate a job offer from Miami through the media, he at this point couldn't give two cacs if he alienates the entire fan base and university that he works for.

If I'm Miami, get on the phone and simply throw out a low ball offer.  You can have him for cheap because it appears Frank is willing to take a considerable pay cut if it means getting the hell out of Dodge.

And this isn't about leveraging for a raise at K-State.  This is about wanting out.


Seems like if he just wanted out, he would have simply had his agent contact Miami directly.  I'm thinking Frank wants more money but, for right now, a better job hasn't presented itself.  Just throw out an article like this, let the KState fans know that he's not getting paid as well as most thought and let everyone know that he is willing to entertain offers from other schools.  Our fanbase will freak out and Currie will pay him more money.  In the next few years, when a really good opportunity is open, he bolts with extra cash in his pocket.  (Possibly to help with his buyout?)

I’m sure his agent has contacted Miami directly.  There’s probably been a lot of contact through intermediary channels.

Honestly, I think it’s as simple as he really wants to go back to Miami.

I also think UM sees Frank as unattainable because of his salary and the perceived additional support for his assistant coaches, and has conscientiously not reached out to focus on what they believe to be more achievable targets.

If this was about milking another couple hundred grand out of K-State, I just find it hard to believe that this his negotiation tactic is to insult the current athletic department publically by broadcasting how little he thinks he's being paid one year from a raise and contract extension.  To me, it seems exactly as it appears, an attempt to say, "I’m more within reach than what you may perceive and I'm willing to listen".

And I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few days to see Frank start popping up on their coaching list, especially as their shitty targets start to fall by the wayside.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
Until further notice he's Frank Kruger.

This is playing out almost exactly the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
And I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few days to see Frank start popping up on their coaching list, especially as their shitty targets start to fall by the wayside.

It will be their losing McDermott to land Huggins moment.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  

That's not all he said, though. He went on to say that he thinks the reason Miami hasn't called him is that they might think he makes 1.5 million instead of 1.1 million. He also said that Miami has unfairly been called a bad job. It sounded like he was interviewing for the Miami job, only Miami doesn't want anything to do with him.

If Frank really wants to stay and is just trying to get a raise, he should probably find himself a better agent.

"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"



If this is about getting a raise, Frank doesn't really know how to go about it. I would be surprised if he gets anything after this. His chances were much better before that interview.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
And I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few days to see Frank start popping up on their coaching list, especially as their cacty targets start to fall by the wayside.

I'd be massively surprised.

They contacted Tommy Amaker, who coaches Harvard.  Miami has always thought of themselves as the Harvard of the Southeast, and it doesn't shock me one bit that they are looking at an Ivy League coach first and foremost.  Not one bit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 11, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Seems to be something of a passive aggressive way of pushing for a raise.
 

lol, no.  "hey, no one's called about me, but i'd totally leave if anyone ever did" isn't give me a raise.  it's why won't you call me, i've always loved you.

I don't know.  Just sounds like he wants everyone to know that he will always listen, which is employee speak for make me a better offer.  

That's not all he said, though. He went on to say that he thinks the reason Miami hasn't called him is that they might think he makes 1.5 million instead of 1.1 million. He also said that Miami has unfairly been called a bad job. It sounded like he was interviewing for the Miami job, only Miami doesn't want anything to do with him.

If Frank really wants to stay and is just trying to get a raise, he should probably find himself a better agent.

"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"



If this is about getting a raise, Frank doesn't really know how to go about it. I would be surprised if he gets anything after this. His chances were much better before that interview.

This interview means that Pearl's show clause better be pretty short lived because we're in the market for a new coach within three years.  Tops.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
I'm skipping the spring football game in protest of this whole situation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
And I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few days to see Frank start popping up on their coaching list, especially as their cacty targets start to fall by the wayside.

It will be their losing McDermott to land Huggins moment.

The hilarious thing is that Amaker will probably turn then down to stay at Harvard and we've got Frank willing to kill a drifter for a rough ridin' phone call.

This is so K-State.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
I bet the subject line in Frank's e-mail to Tucker offering an interview was "my belated response to that dork trying to take CK from me".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
And I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few days to see Frank start popping up on their coaching list, especially as their cacty targets start to fall by the wayside.

It will be their losing McDermott to land Huggins moment.

The hilarious thing is that Amaker will probably turn then down to stay at Harvard and we've got Frank willing to kill a drifter for a rough ridin' phone call.

This is so K-State.

I would imagine Amaker would turn them down if they offered.  They need to get Capel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 11, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I don't quite get the play here...

Frank has no leverage for a raise if Miami hasn't called.
Miami knows Frank would listen


So why bother admitting the things he said in the last article?

Makes no sense.

so miami knows he's willing to work for less than $1.5M in Miami.  obviously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"

mr. currie has a copy of martin's contract and knows perfectly well that martin does make 1.55/year.  so having tucker tell him he doesn't isn't likely to be a very effective negotiating ploy.

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


there may be something in why this is public rather than private.  obviously, martin doesn't need to use tucker to communicate with either currie or miami.  not sure what that angle might be.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 11, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
It could be Frank just needs an offer for validation, both for himself and his friends and family at home.
Or he really wants a cacy job in his hometown.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
I bet the subject line in Frank's e-mail to Tucker offering an interview was "my belated response to that dork trying to take CK from me".

this couldn't be better for currie.  4 hours ago, tuck nation would have blamed currie for losing martin, now they're all currieites.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"

mr. currie has a copy of martin's contract and knows perfectly well that martin does make 1.55/year.  so having tucker tell him he doesn't isn't likely to be a very effective negotiating ploy.

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


there may be something in why this is public rather than private.  obviously, martin doesn't need to use tucker to communicate with either currie or miami.  not sure what that angle might be.

this is a great post
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
"Mr. Currie, I really like Miami and I don't make as much as our fans think I do.  Did I mention that I really, really like Miami and that it is better there than you think it is?  Do our fans know that I make $400k less a year than what has been recently reported?"

mr. currie has a copy of martin's contract and knows perfectly well that martin does make 1.55/year.  so having tucker tell him he doesn't isn't likely to be a very effective negotiating ploy.

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


there may be something in why this is public rather than private.  obviously, martin doesn't need to use tucker to communicate with either currie or miami.  not sure what that angle might be.

My guess...Currie and Frank had a chat in the last few days, Frank didn't like what he heard, and he's now very keen on looking around.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
<----someone who doesn't want to dig up/read the contract.

is the $1.55M an avg over the life of the contract, or did he in fact actually make that over the last season?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:21:12 PM
Why is Frank doing this? I'm hurt by this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
I bet the subject line in Frank's e-mail to Tucker offering an interview was "my belated response to that dork trying to take CK from me".

this couldn't be better for currie.  4 hours ago, tuck nation would have blamed currie for losing martin, now they're all currieites.

We've been getting along too well with the tucks lately anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
I don't want to start hating Currie.  Hope nothing happens to make me start.

Can't hate Frank, regardless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 11, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I don't quite get the play here...

Frank has no leverage for a raise if Miami hasn't called.
Miami knows Frank would listen


So why bother admitting the things he said in the last article?

Makes no sense.

so miami knows he's willing to work for less than $1.5M in Miami.  obviously.

Ummmm, yeah.

Sounds like his agent hasn't been effective communicating that, so he's now openly begging/lobbying through the media.

It is kind of funny that this is his response in disputing the other media reports from this weekend that he isn't a candidate.

  


  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 11, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
<----someone who doesn't want to dig up/read the contract.

is the $1.55M an avg over the life of the contract, or did he in fact actually make that over the last season?



its the average if he stays teh life of the contract and collects all bonuses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 11, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 11, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
<----someone who doesn't want to dig up/read the contract.

is the $1.55M an avg over the life of the contract, or did he in fact actually make that over the last season?



its the average if he stays teh life of the contract and collects all bonuses.

I think it only includes retention bonuses, not performance-based bonuses. I'm not sure where he is saying these reports are coming from, other than the tuck poll.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


Hey guys, I'm willing to take a 400K annual pay cut.  Just so you know...So, I'm available to talk whenever...

Oh, and don't worry about that Delonte dude.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 11, 2011, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


Hey guys, I'm willing to take a 400K annual pay cut.  Just so you know...So, I'm available to talk whenever...

Oh, and don't worry about that Delonte dude.
Or Undies. I'm sure Currie already has a contract in the inter-office mail for him to sign when Frank bolts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
oscar Pearl would just leave after a couple years anyway. Coaches just don't like being here. Let's face it, it does suck here. Outside of K-State grads nobody thinks this is a good place to be. And none of us can understand why because we have fond memories of Manhattan and K-State. But someone coming in from the outside just tolerates this hell hole and lies straight to everyone's face about how it doesn't suck until a decent opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Hopefully NBAF will help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: Gooch on April 11, 2011, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 03:11:18 PM

miami on the other hand, probably didn't know that martin would take their job for anything over 1.1.


Hey guys, I'm willing to take a 400K annual pay cut.  Just so you know...So, I'm available to talk whenever...

Oh, and don't worry about that Delonte dude.
Or Undies. I'm sure Currie already has a contract in the inter-office mail for him to sign when Frank bolts.

If Currie hires Underwood, a lot of that goodwill he's built up will look like burnt embers in an ash tray.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
Excerpt from the next AP story to run:

"So, I just want to reiterate that I'm willing to work for much less than the lies that are being reported about my current gig".

"I do want to keep my strength guy though.  And my this Figger dude who is my one good recruiter.  Let me know though.  If I need to take an additional pay cut just so your broke asses can afford them, I'm sure we can work something out."

  

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 11, 2011, 03:49:51 PM
"I have a god given talent of intimidating stares.  I'm an ex-coach who has fallen on hard times.  Please! Any help will be greatfully appreciated. Thank you and God bless you/Happy Holidays"

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 03:50:11 PM
So, basically our only hope at this point is Miami's incompetence.

If they make any play whatsoever, he is 100% gone.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
oscar Pearl would just leave after a couple years anyway. Coaches just don't like being here. Let's face it, it does suck here. Outside of K-State grads nobody thinks this is a good place to be. And none of us can understand why because we have fond memories of Manhattan and K-State. But someone coming in from the outside just tolerates this hell hole and lies straight to everyone's face about how it doesn't suck until a decent opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Hopefully NBAF will help.

Huggins liked Manhattan, it was his Alma Mater that came calling.   No personality like Huggins is going to turn down a Big East school that was his Alma Mater, and I suffer from no illusions/delusions that Manhattan is some kind of misunderstood super special place either.    
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 11, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Why can't it be as easy as UM doesn't want some foul mouth hot head screaming at kids representing their university, regardless of salary/pay?  I don't think this has anything to do with money.  I think it's a real reason we may have Frank for a long time.  (I personally have no issue with his sideline demeanor but I can guarantee you a number of academia do)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
oscar Pearl would just leave after a couple years anyway. Coaches just don't like being here. Let's face it, it does suck here. Outside of K-State grads nobody thinks this is a good place to be. And none of us can understand why because we have fond memories of Manhattan and K-State. But someone coming in from the outside just tolerates this hell hole and lies straight to everyone's face about how it doesn't suck until a decent opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Hopefully NBAF will help.

Huggins liked Manhattan, it was his Alma Mater that came calling.   No personality like Huggins is going to turn down a Big East school that was his Alma Mater, and I suffer from no illusions/delusions that Manhattan is some kind of misunderstood super special place either.    

Huggins would have left for any Big East school. I did appreciate how he pretended to be tortured about the decision though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 11, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Why can't it be as easy as UM doesn't want some foul mouth hot head screaming at kids representing their university, regardless of salary/pay?  I don't think this has anything to do with money.  I think it's a real reason we may have Frank for a long time.  (I personally have no issue with his sideline demeanor but I can guarantee you a number of academia do)

A Shalala is one academia type I can see not wanting Frank.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 03:59:18 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  
I agree time to get rid of him. rinse and repeat the process with oscar Pearl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 03:59:51 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

We're waiting on Pearl's show clause to expire, man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 04:00:04 PM
lol @ this thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
oscar Pearl would just leave after a couple years anyway. Coaches just don't like being here. Let's face it, it does suck here. Outside of K-State grads nobody thinks this is a good place to be. And none of us can understand why because we have fond memories of Manhattan and K-State. But someone coming in from the outside just tolerates this hell hole and lies straight to everyone's face about how it doesn't suck until a decent opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Hopefully NBAF will help.

Huggins liked Manhattan, it was his Alma Mater that came calling.   No personality like Huggins is going to turn down a Big East school that was his Alma Mater, and I suffer from no illusions/delusions that Manhattan is some kind of misunderstood super special place either.   

Huggins would have left for any Big East school. I did appreciate how he pretended to be tortured about the decision though.

ksu is no different from any big 12 school not named texas or kansas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
oscar Pearl would just leave after a couple years anyway. Coaches just don't like being here. Let's face it, it does suck here. Outside of K-State grads nobody thinks this is a good place to be. And none of us can understand why because we have fond memories of Manhattan and K-State. But someone coming in from the outside just tolerates this hell hole and lies straight to everyone's face about how it doesn't suck until a decent opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Hopefully NBAF will help.

Huggins liked Manhattan, it was his Alma Mater that came calling.   No personality like Huggins is going to turn down a Big East school that was his Alma Mater, and I suffer from no illusions/delusions that Manhattan is some kind of misunderstood super special place either.    

Huggins would have left for any Big East school. I did appreciate how he pretended to be tortured about the decision though.

Then it appears that we can't find any non midwestern bred non shirt tuck type that we can hire to be a good basketball coach and stick around, and no, Huggins would not have left for any Big East school.

. . . and OH, I'm pretty  :ck: to Frank staying and going at this juncture.   I suppose I want him to stay, but I won't be that broken up about it if he goes.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 11, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Why can't it be as easy as UM doesn't want some foul mouth hot head screaming at kids representing their university, regardless of salary/pay?  I don't think this has anything to do with money.  I think it's a real reason we may have Frank for a long time.  (I personally have no issue with his sideline demeanor but I can guarantee you a number of academia do)

A Shalala is one academia type I can see not wanting Frank.


I doubt she even knows about Frank's reputation.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 11, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
Why can't it be as easy as UM doesn't want some foul mouth hot head screaming at kids representing their university, regardless of salary/pay?  I don't think this has anything to do with money.  I think it's a real reason we may have Frank for a long time.  (I personally have no issue with his sideline demeanor but I can guarantee you a number of academia do)

A Shalala is one academia type I can see not wanting Frank.


I doubt she even knows about Frank's reputation.





Oh, she probably does, but only from a Johnson County Housewife perspective.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
My take is that the Miami deciders don't want Frank, whether it's because he yells or because of the demands he'd put on the school to get the program up to snuff or because they don't want Art/Shakey/MiamiNewTimes'MostWanted around, or whatever.  

That kind of pisses Frank off because he at least wanted the offer so he could bend Currie over, or possibly because if he could get all his demands met of course he would go doom it up in Miami.  

Frank is pissed/hurt that Miami doesn't want him and that he lost that leverage and is rationalizing it to the press by saying Currie sabotaged him and made him seem untouchable salary-wise.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 04:00:04 PM
lol @ this thread

It's a roller coaster, man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
My take is that the Miami deciders don't want Frank, whether it's because he yells or because of the demands he'd put on the school to get the program up to snuff or because they don't want Art/Shakey/MiamiNewTimes'MostWanted around, or whatever.  

That kind of pisses Frank off because he at least wanted the offer so he could bend Currie over, or possibly because if he could get all his demands met of course he would go doom it up in Miami.  

Frank is pissed/hurt that Miami doesn't want him and that he lost that leverage and is rationalizing it to the press by saying Currie sabotaged him and made him seem untouchable salary-wise.  

How bad is it for Miami if $1.5 million is untouchable?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
My take is that the Miami deciders don't want Frank, whether it's because he yells or because of the demands he'd put on the school to get the program up to snuff or because they don't want Art/Shakey/MiamiNewTimes'MostWanted around, or whatever. 

That kind of pisses Frank off because he at least wanted the offer so he could bend Currie over, or possibly because if he could get all his demands met of course he would go doom it up in Miami. 

Frank is pissed/hurt that Miami doesn't want him and that he lost that leverage and is rationalizing it to the press by saying Currie sabotaged him and made him seem untouchable salary-wise. 

How bad is it for Miami if $1.5 million is untouchable?

Well that's my point.  I don't think 1.5 is untouchable nor do I think they think 1.5 is untouchable (or that they've even considered what to pay him).  I don't think they want him and Frank cooked this theory up because he's hurt.  As we've mentioned, he should've turned to us to get his PR right.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
My take is that the Miami deciders don't want Frank, whether it's because he yells or because of the demands he'd put on the school to get the program up to snuff or because they don't want Art/Shakey/MiamiNewTimes'MostWanted around, or whatever.  

That kind of pisses Frank off because he at least wanted the offer so he could bend Currie over, or possibly because if he could get all his demands met of course he would go doom it up in Miami.  

Frank is pissed/hurt that Miami doesn't want him and that he lost that leverage and is rationalizing it to the press by saying Currie sabotaged him and made him seem untouchable salary-wise.  

I kind of agree with this more than any other so far, except for the last sentence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

Before the season:  "Selby will teabag Pullen"  - beems

After the season:  "Selby sucks, needs to stay another year and learn to not suck so bad."  - also beems
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote
austin_meek Austin Meek
So far, K-State hasn't budged on Martin's contract, I'm told.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

John is out for blood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 11, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

The ku fans I know were screaming for Self's head after yet another choke job.  Doesn't mean he will leave for a different job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote
austin_meek Austin Meek
So far, K-State hasn't budged on Martin's contract, I'm told.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

John is out for blood.

Bingo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 11, 2011, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
or because they don't want Art/Shakey/MiamiNewTimes'MostWanted around, or whatever.  


This.

He's far enough away from that stuff here.

I'm a little surprised he isn't going after UNLV.  Frank is backing himself into a corner. Nobody wants him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 11, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

Before the season:  "Selby will teabag Pullen"  - beems

After the season:  "Selby sucks, needs to stay another year and learn to not suck so bad."  - also beems



Things change.  Welcome to reality.


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote
austin_meek Austin Meek
So far, K-State hasn't budged on Martin's contract, I'm told.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

John is out for blood.


why would he budge, martin just shot his foot off in terms of any kstate salary negotiations.  going for blood would be serving him the pay cut that the miami job snub and his public disloyalty have earned him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote
austin_meek Austin Meek
So far, K-State hasn't budged on Martin's contract, I'm told.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

John is out for blood.


why would he budge, martin just shot his foot off in terms of any kstate salary negotiations.  going for blood would be serving him the pay cut that the miami job snub and his public disloyalty have earned him.

meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

Before the season:  "Selby will teabag Pullen"  - beems

After the season:  "Selby sucks, needs to stay another year and learn to not suck so bad."  - also beems



Things change.  Welcome to reality.


 :thumbsup:

you just made yourself look like a dumbass, w2g.   :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.

and?  honesty has consequences.  martin knows very well that there are times for honesty and times when you lie your ass off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 11, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.

and?  honesty has consequences.  martin knows very well that there are times for honesty and times when you lie your ass off.

I don't know.  We are talking about a guy who can't speak to a room full of 60+ year old shirt tucks without using the word "pissed" over and over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
why do I think doug tucker didn't ask frank to clarify the exact details of his contract?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.

and?  honesty has consequences.  martin knows very well that there are times for honesty and times when you lie your ass off.

He didn't even have to lie.  All he had to say was, "I've already commented about the Miami job.  Nothing has changed, and I have no further comment."

Simple, easy, and it would be over with.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 11, 2011, 04:28:06 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

Before the season:  "Selby will teabag Pullen"  - beems

After the season:  "Selby sucks, needs to stay another year and learn to not suck so bad."  - also beems



Things change.  Welcome to reality.


 :thumbsup:

you just made yourself look like a dumbass, w2g.   :lol:

Ben does that a lot.  Welcome to reality.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.

and?  honesty has consequences.  martin knows very well that there are times for honesty and times when you lie your ass off.

what are the consequences? us bbs'ing our asses off? this will all be forgotten in about a week. maybe less. (Depending on when miami actually hires a coach)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 11, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 11, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 11, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
When K-State started conference season 4-6 and players were leaving the program left and right, plenty of posters on this board were ready to run Frank out of town.  The same situation will happen next season, except Frank won't have Jake Pullen to save him.  

Before the season:  "Selby will teabag Pullen"  - beems

After the season:  "Selby sucks, needs to stay another year and learn to not suck so bad."  - also beems



Things change.  Welcome to reality.


 :thumbsup:

you just made yourself look like a dumbass, w2g.   :lol:


 :dubious:


FWIW, I don't think Selby sucks. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 11, 2011, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
meh. he was asked questions by the media, and he answered them honestly. no more no less.

and?  honesty has consequences.  martin knows very well that there are times for honesty and times when you lie your ass off.

what are the consequences? us bbs'ing our asses off? this will all be forgotten in about a week. maybe less. (Depending on when miami actually hires a coach)

The fans will forget, but Currie won't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:29:49 PM
this will all be forgotten in about a week. maybe less.

nope.  martin threw some goodwill on the fire and burned it, he never gets that goodwill back.  he still has plenty, obviously, and he can make more.  but burning goodwill to fuel your smoke signals is as stupid as burning cash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
why do I think doug tucker didn't ask frank to clarify the exact details of his contract?

ft
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:29:49 PM
this will all be forgotten in about a week. maybe less.

nope.  martin threw some goodwill on the fire and burned it, he never gets that goodwill back.  he still has plenty, obviously, and he can make more.  but burning goodwill to fuel your smoke signals is as stupid as burning cash.

i've already forgotten about it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
i've already forgotten about it.

mr. tuck money hasn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 11, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
Frank is going to lie low for a couple of years, and as soon as he has any sort of success again he's going to be gone.  It won't matter where it is as long as it isn't Manhattan, KS.  He probably has Bob Huggins in his ear every day telling him what rubes we all are. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 11, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
I have a feeling that Frank's next job will be on Hugg's bench at WVU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
i've already forgotten about it.

mr. tuck money hasn't.

Quote
FanningKSU Heath Fanning
Thx for pissing in our cereal right in front of us Frank! Wonder how fan interaction will be 4 u next yr? U can blame self 4 that! #Kstate

I am with ETP on this, but I think the 'tucks will have a prob with this after all.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 11, 2011, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: theKSU on April 11, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
Frank is going to lie low for a couple of years, and as soon as he has any sort of success again he's going to be gone.  It won't matter where it is as long as it isn't Manhattan, KS.  He probably has Bob Huggins in his ear every day telling him what rubes we all are. 

I'd never say Frank was "lying low"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this crap went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the crap out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if crap didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a crap about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his crap kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slimz on April 11, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
* EXCLUSIVE *

Guys, I just obtained footage of Frank's communications (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PUrNwvvBk&feature=related) with Donna Shalala/Miami.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:54:55 PM
bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Congrats to my man Doug Tucker of the AP. He is retiring in June. Its all sports fans losses. Good luck Doug! Hes @byevanwest


Tucker just wants to stir the pot before he heads off to the old writers homes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

He's doing a slightly above mediocre job of reloading the talent pool.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 11, 2011, 05:05:05 PM
Seems like we were better last year when Denis was here.  Frank brought him in, right?  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.

Well, instead of "Pullen is gone" let's use...  Pullen, Kelly, Judge, Clemente, and whoever else he has/will run off are gone and being replaced with three freshman and a sex addict from New York.  The point is... the talent pool appears to be dwindling.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.

Well, instead of "Pullen is gone" let's use...  Pullen, Kelly, Judge, Clemente, and whoever else he has/will run off are gone and being replaced with three freshman and a sex addict from New York.  The point is... the talent pool appears to be dwindling.

What the eff are you talking about, seriously shut up.  When you replace seniors with freshmen of course it appears that the talent is getting worse.  eff man no one thought Jacob Pullen was going to be better than Cartier Martin.  The stupidity of your post pisses me off.  rough ridin' Wally Judge sucked, it wont be hard for either freshman big to out produce him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.

Well, instead of "Pullen is gone" let's use...  Pullen, Kelly, Judge, Clemente, and whoever else he has/will run off are gone and being replaced with three freshman and a sex addict from New York.  The point is... the talent pool appears to be dwindling.

What the eff are you talking about, seriously shut up.  When you replace seniors with freshmen of course it appears that the talent is getting worse.  eff man no one thought Jacob Pullen was going to be better than Cartier Martin.  The stupidity of your post pisses me off.  rough ridin' Wally Judge sucked, it wont be hard for either freshman big to out produce him.

MIR you just said the same thing.  We are replacing proven talent and experience with un-proven talent with no-experience.  What did I say that has you so butt hurt?  I like you MIR.  Please don't PI me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 11, 2011, 05:17:49 PM
Yeah all this Frank bashing makes sense... cause Pullen was a 5 star recruit, and Kelly wasn't a 1 ppg loser at UCONN.  IMO, Frank did some pretty amazing things with mediocre players (Pullen, Kelly, Clemente) and who cares about Judge...  I dont see why he wouldnt be able to do it again.

I guess we could go back to Woolly, cause that would be much better... and possibly never get to the NCAA tourney again.  Please remember where we came from...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 11, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
I think it's a mix of Frank being a bit upset Miami hasn't at least reached out, making a bad PR move and getting too honest in an interview, and making a poor play to get a contract negotiation .

I've never been ignorant enough to think Frank doesn't at least have mild interest in the Miami job. I may be ignorant, though, in believing that just because Frank has interest in the Miami job it doesn't mean he hates Manhattan/K-State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:21:56 PM
Hey, it's not my fault Frank wants to get the eff out of here on the first thing smoking.  You guys are mis-directing your anger.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
so what is everyones expectations for Frank and 'cats basketball from here on out?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 11, 2011, 05:25:14 PM
you think if we embezzled some cuban cigars and flew in some miami beach skanks to the little apple Frank will stay?  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
so what is everyones expectations for Frank and 'cats basketball from here on out?

I think 2011-2012 will sting a little, but I think 2012-2013 could be a pretty nice year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.

Well, instead of "Pullen is gone" let's use...  Pullen, Kelly, Judge, Clemente, and whoever else he has/will run off are gone and being replaced with three freshman and a sex addict from New York.  The point is... the talent pool appears to be dwindling.

What the eff are you talking about, seriously shut up.  When you replace seniors with freshmen of course it appears that the talent is getting worse.  eff man no one thought Jacob Pullen was going to be better than Cartier Martin.  The stupidity of your post pisses me off.  rough ridin' Wally Judge sucked, it wont be hard for either freshman big to out produce him.

MIR you just said the same thing.  We are replacing proven talent and experience with un-proven talent with no-experience.  What did I say that has you so butt hurt?  I like you MIR.  Please don't PI me.

No we didn't say the same thing, he's replacing seniors with freshmen, the same thing he's done every single year he's coached.  Literally every single college coach in every single sport is doing the same thing.  Why do you feel the need to point it out as a weakness?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: doom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 11, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Beems is on the money here.  Frank sees the writing on the wall.  The recruits he needs to compete in this league aren't coming to KSU and his stock now that Pullen is gone will only drop.  The time to get out is now and he knows it.  He assumed when this cac went down with Haith to Miami he could just roll out of here and get a fresh start with zero expectations. He'd be home making millions enjoying the cac out of life while he re-built a program.  He would get a minimum of 5 years down there and if cac didn't pan out he could just pass the buck on "nobody gives a cac about basketball down here" and probably go land a good job or assistant job somewhere.  As it stands he is probably going to get his cac kicked in for 2 or 3 years here at KSU, get fired, and have to blow Huggins for a gig at WVU.  

I'b be pissed if I were Frank too. He's no dummy. He knows this ride is coming to an end.

I think the now that pullen is gone talking point is ridic. funny.
I didn't see anything in there that mentioned pullen leaving?  :ck:
And he isn't necessarily reloading the talent pool here either.

agree with doom.

Well, instead of "Pullen is gone" let's use...  Pullen, Kelly, Judge, Clemente, and whoever else he has/will run off are gone and being replaced with three freshman and a sex addict from New York.  The point is... the talent pool appears to be dwindling.

What the eff are you talking about, seriously shut up.  When you replace seniors with freshmen of course it appears that the talent is getting worse.  eff man no one thought Jacob Pullen was going to be better than Cartier Martin.  The stupidity of your post pisses me off.  rough ridin' Wally Judge sucked, it wont be hard for either freshman big to out produce him.

MIR you just said the same thing.  We are replacing proven talent and experience with un-proven talent with no-experience.  What did I say that has you so butt hurt?  I like you MIR.  Please don't PI me.

No we didn't say the same thing, he's replacing seniors with freshmen, the same thing he's done every single year he's coached.  Literally every single college coach in every single sport is doing the same thing.  Why do you feel the need to point it out as a weakness?

Ok.  I guess what I'm saying is despite some of the stats _Fan posted regarding what we have returning compared to other years, I feel that we are returning less this year than we have since we lost Beas/Walker.  The difference being we felt good about having Judge/McGrudes/Kelly on the way and Clemente running the show.  I'm a bit concerned with our immediate future (2011/2012) given what we are losing and what we appear to be returning/recruiting.  Is that a fair enough assesment? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
No we didn't say the same thing, he's replacing seniors with freshmen, the same thing he's done every single year he's coached.  Literally every single college coach in every single sport is doing the same thing.  Why do you feel the need to point it out as a weakness?

i wish he'd replace seniors with freshmen, that usually works out really well.  the replacing sophomores with juniors part is what sucks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
No we didn't say the same thing, he's replacing seniors with freshmen, the same thing he's done every single year he's coached.  Literally every single college coach in every single sport is doing the same thing.  Why do you feel the need to point it out as a weakness?

i wish he'd replace seniors with freshmen, that usually works out really well.  the replacing sophomores with juniors part is what sucks.
But then his "well we have one of the youngest teams in this league" talking point would be taken away.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 05:49:39 PM
But then his "well we have one of the youngest teams in this league" talking point would be taken away.

2011-2012 martin - "we have 6 first year guys, and nino didn't play last year, that's over half our team that has never played a minute in the big 12"

 :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2011, 05:54:28 PM
the guy (marty) screwed up didn't play this hand very well.  who cares.  /thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
No we didn't say the same thing, he's replacing seniors with freshmen, the same thing he's done every single year he's coached.  Literally every single college coach in every single sport is doing the same thing.  Why do you feel the need to point it out as a weakness?

i wish he'd replace seniors with freshmen, that usually works out really well.  the replacing sophomores with juniors part is what sucks.

Well the 2nd & 3rd best players he had were juniors replacing sophomores.  Really outside of Freddy and that stiff from Hutch his transfers haven't been horrible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
Well the 2nd & 3rd best players he had were juniors replacing sophomores.  Really outside of Freddy and that stiff from Hutch his transfers haven't been horrible.

d1 transfers have been good, jucos have been horrible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
Well the 2nd & 3rd best players he had were juniors replacing sophomores.  Really outside of Freddy and that stiff from Hutch his transfers haven't been horrible.

d1 transfers have been good, jucos have been horrible.

The best has been Canada :angry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 11, 2011, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
Well the 2nd & 3rd best players he had were juniors replacing sophomores.  Really outside of Freddy and that stiff from Hutch his transfers haven't been horrible.

d1 transfers have been good, jucos have been horrible.

andre gilbert
abdul herereaerafa
buchi awaji
canadian


freddy, devon, and omari are also, technically, jucos.  

it's a goddman nightmare (sans devon).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 06:19:25 PM
bill walker was better than CK and Clemente. Please.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 06:21:33 PM
Frank wants to get down where the pickens are easier . . . at K-State you actually have to work hard at recruiting, and people start to wonder about "recruiters" who get paid $455K a year but don't seem to recruit anybody.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 06:21:33 PM
Frank wants to get down where the pickens are easier . . . at K-State you actually have to work hard at recruiting.

i suspect that, even at miami, he'd have to actually pick up the phone and extend an offer to joell james and khyle marshall before they'd show up on campus.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 11, 2011, 06:32:42 PM
I agree with pretty much everything sys has said in the past few pages of this thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 11, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
If Frank grovels like that in public, I wonder how pathetic he is in private phone calls.

Also, if Frank left.... would Wefald be invited to come back and cry like a woman scorned in front of the whole nation?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 06:37:44 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 11, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
If Frank grovels like that in public, I wonder how pathetic he is in private phone calls.

Also, if Frank left.... would Wefald be invited to come back and cry like a woman scorned in front of the whole nation?



wow, two absolutely brutal takes in one post. At least one was somewhat original. I guess that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 06:19:25 PM
bill walker was better than CK and Clemente. Please.

100% correct, don't know what the hell I was thinking about, forgot about Jake too.  Doesn't change the point though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 06:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 06:50:55 PM
Nick Wright has done a good job clown suiting us this afternoon.

'Grats Frank. 




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

If Frank happens to have his worst year next year that contract negotiation is going to be awkward as hell.  That contract provision about renegotiating a full year after the benchmark was reached is very weird and frankly I'm a bit stunned that Katz agreeing to it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 11, 2011, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 11, 2011, 06:50:55 PM
Nick Wright has done a good job clown suiting us this afternoon.

'Grats Frank. 






Cliffs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
What has K-State done exactly to be clown suited?   



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 11, 2011, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

If Frank happens to have his worst year next year that contract negotiation is going to be awkward as hell.  That contract provision about renegotiating a full year after the benchmark was reached is very weird and frankly I'm a bit stunned that Katz agreeing to it.


True, but Frank its likely confident enough to not really think about having a really bad season. After this us all over, Frank will have a press conference and make nice with the local media and this will be forgotten by 95% or more of fans. It will only be brought out again next year if something similar happens again after the season. Still extremely unlikely he's anywhere except Manhattan next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 11, 2011, 07:03:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

If Frank happens to have his worst year next year that contract negotiation is going to be awkward as hell.  That contract provision about renegotiating a full year after the benchmark was reached is very weird and frankly I'm a bit stunned that Katz agreeing to it.


Yeah, that's a bit...odd.

Frank: "I met one of my requirements. Let's talk raise."
John: "You also just finished 7-11 in conference and lost in the 2nd round of the NIT."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

I'm actually not very meh about this. It really does look pretty shitty. Even if he was misrepresented, his quotes taken out of context, etc it's still depressing to see him act like such a goddamn Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when so far for the most part every thing he's done and said has been so rough ridin' cool. To me it's not as much that he wants to go to miam as much as how rough ridin' non-elite he looks in all of this and how non-elite he's making all us elite fans look.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Just read the interview again.  I don't think it's that bad.  He's just embarrassed that Miami didn't pick him, regardless of if he'd have gone or been able to work out a deal.

Naturally and not necessarily rationally, I blame Currie.  He should become AD at Miami and him and Shalalalala can tuck each other's shirts in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
Frank needs to speak to a local dood to clear this up. SD, Trim, make the call.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 11, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
Frank needs to speak to a local dood to clear this up. SD, Trim, make the call.

If Frank leaves (likely) how many of you would jump ship if Underwood was promoted?  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

I'm actually not very meh about this. It really does look pretty shitty. Even if he was misrepresented, his quotes taken out of context, etc it's still depressing to see him act like such a goddamn Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when so far for the most part every thing he's done and said has been so rough ridin' cool. To me it's not as much that he wants to go to miam as much as how rough ridin' non-elite he looks in all of this and how non-elite he's making all us elite fans look.

I find it sad/hilarious when adults expect sports figures to act differently than themselves or the other schmuck they share a cubicle with.  He wants to feel wanted by his employer and his people back home.  Frank is sensitive who should care or be surprised.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
Frank needs to speak to a local dood to clear this up. SD, Trim, make the call.

I wonder what J-Mart's doing now that the Final Four is over.  A freelance article on this whole situation would be a nice addition to goEMAW premium.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 07:14:35 PM
I think it comes down to him turning down other jobs and waiting for the miami job to come open and now that it finally has he's super pissed that they haven't even called him when he probably assumed the job was as good as his. Now he's saying all this stupid stuff that hurts our feelings.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
'CANE U HEAR ME NOW?'
Desperate to get Miami's attention, Frank Martin
calls wire service to help him send his message

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg811.imageshack.us%2Fimg811%2F3986%2Fksuvscusp031011rs0224f0.jpg&hash=eac8c1d6e6145144e25b860a3c3d706c7c218e6a) (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/ksuvscusp031011rs0224f0.jpg/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 11, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
frank martin?  more like Butthurt Martin.

p.s. I'm with Trim. Blame Currie.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 07:37:39 PM
Has to be Currie's fault. Frank loves us. He loves us....right :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 11, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
i think it's obvious that frank wants to get the f away from currie.  he (a) states that he's cheaper than is being reported (basically telling Miami..."hey, just get it to 1.1M and we can talk" and (b) basically said Miami isn't a bad job and he likes challenges.  

i hope you're happy currie, you smug SOB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 11, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
i think it's obvious that frank wants to get the f away from currie.  he (a) states that he's cheaper than is being reported (basically telling Miami..."hey, just get it to 1.1M and we can talk" and (b) basically said Miami isn't a bad job and he likes challenges. 

i hope you're happy currie, you smug SOB.

Damn, so close to getting rid of Frank Wooldridge.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
'CANE U HEAR ME NOW?'
Desperate to get Miami's attention, Frank Martin
calls wire service to help him send his message

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg811.imageshack.us%2Fimg811%2F3986%2Fksuvscusp031011rs0224f0.jpg&hash=eac8c1d6e6145144e25b860a3c3d706c7c218e6a) (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/ksuvscusp031011rs0224f0.jpg/)

 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 11, 2011, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 11, 2011, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 11, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

I'm actually not very meh about this. It really does look pretty shitty. Even if he was misrepresented, his quotes taken out of context, etc it's still depressing to see him act like such a goddamn Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when so far for the most part every thing he's done and said has been so rough ridin' cool. To me it's not as much that he wants to go to miam as much as how rough ridin' non-elite he looks in all of this and how non-elite he's making all us elite fans look.

I find it sad/hilarious when adults expect sports figures to act differently than themselves or the other schmuck they share a cubicle with.  He wants to feel wanted by his employer and his people back home.  Frank is sensitive who should care or be surprised.

I've always wondered what would happen if coaches came out and told the truth in a situation like this.  I've thought people would generally respect the honesty.  After reading it from Frank, I have mixed feelings.  I'm interested to see how the situation/my feelings play out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 11, 2011, 07:58:47 PM
Fire Frank ASAP
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:00:14 PM
IN THE BALL PARK, FRANK?
K-State coach volunteers pay cut through media,
Miami prez Shalala to offer $500k yearly salary

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
CURRIE THE F*CK UP!
Desperate to keep Frank Martin in Manhattan,
K-State fans tell AD to pony up — or get out

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F03%2F20%2F00%2F031911ksu_th26.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.80.JPG&hash=ea8938b26aab0c33fc3d51a4078153c8da698aa0)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0% on April 11, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
CORAL GABLES — The University of Miami's search for a men's basketball coach enters its second week today with no signs the Hurricanes will speak to Kansas State's Frank Martin about the vacancy.

Martin, the 2010 Big 12 Coach of the Year and a Miami native, said Monday that he has not been contacted by UM officials even though he would listen to offers.

ESPN.com reported that UM acting athletic director Tony Hernandez and search committee chairman Paul DiMare were in Boston on Monday interviewing Harvard coach Tommy Amaker about replacing Frank Haith, who resigned last week to become coach at Missouri.

University of Alabama-Birmingham coach Mike Davis has also been cited in various reports as a top contender for the UM job. But, as of Monday morning, UM had not sought permission from UAB officials to speak with Davis, according to the Birmingham News.

The Hurricanes are looking for an athletic director, too.

The Miami Herald reported that UM spent Sunday interviewing candidates for that position, including California athletic director Sandy Barbour, Virginia Commonwealth athletic director Norwood Teague and Atlantic Coast Conference associate commissioner Michael Kelly.

Barbour said Monday, however, that she had not spoken to UM about the job.

"I am not a candidate to be athletic director at the University of Miami and categorically deny having interviewed for the position, as has been reported by some media outlets," Barbour said in a statement.

Hernandez, who is spearheading UM's search, is also in the running to become Miami's athletic director. He has been serving in an interim capacity since Kirby Hocutt left UM in early March to become Texas Tech's athletic director.

Hernandez said last week that hiring a basketball coach would continue "independent of where the athletic director search is at."

Hernandez hasn't spoken publicly since meeting with reporters last week to announce Haith's resignation.

Martin's name was one of the first to pop up in connection with the Hurricanes' vacancy. But according to a UM source familiar with the situation, Martin was informed last week through a third party that he was not being considered as a candidate .

Martin's told the Associated Press on Monday that the Hurricanes may have been turned off by a misunderstanding regarding his contract.

"Everyone's reporting that my salary is $1.55 million (annually)," Martin said. "Actually, my salary is $1.1 million.

"If I stayed the length of the (five-year) contract and I collect every bonus on the contract, it will average out to $1.55. And you know what? There is a chance that the University of Miami never called because they think I make $1.5 (million). There's a chance just because it was released at $1.55 (million) the University of Miami said, 'We can't call him. Why waste our time? We can't pay him.' "

But Martin could also be a victim of his controversial past. He was fired at Miami High for breaking rules that included recruiting Heat forward Udonis Haslem and fellow NBA player Steve Blake. Martin has also had to apologize for striking a player and has been criticized for his behavior on the bench.

UM has previously avoided coaching candidates with cloudy resumes . The school did not interview former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach in December after Randy Shannon was fired as football coach.

Leach expressed interest in the position, but UM was scared off by his past conduct. Leach was fired by Texas Tech in December 2009 for insubordination as the result of his alleged mistreatment of a player.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
that guy looks great
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:14:17 PM
HE'S STARTIN' WITH MARTIN!
AD, K-State coach at odds over contract

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:14:29 PM
he really does doesnt he
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
CURRIE THE F*CK UP!
Desperate to keep Frank Martin in Manhattan,
K-State fans tell AD to pony up — or get out

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F03%2F20%2F00%2F031911ksu_th26.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.80.JPG&hash=ea8938b26aab0c33fc3d51a4078153c8da698aa0)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
be strong, currie.  don't let rake and his muckraking media hordes bully you into offering traitor martin more than he's worth (rumored to be 500k from a well placed miami president source).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
Hey Frank, do you not like us anymore?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:25:44 PM
IT'S PATTERSON!
Unable to afford Martin, Canes decide
to hire K-State's OTHER hoops coach

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg156.imageshack.us%2Fimg156%2F3727%2Ftqoayuiitpifvfq20081004.jpg&hash=882d64c519714dd20983195b7470763da0b6797b) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/tqoayuiitpifvfq20081004.jpg/)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:27:06 PM
Are you not enjoying Manhattan still?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wes mantooth on April 11, 2011, 08:27:50 PM
Frank doesn't seem real appreciative of the opportunity we have afforded him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:27:52 PM
Did you mean all those things you said?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:28:29 PM
I just want things to be like they used to be
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 11, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
that guy looks great

probably works out 6 times a week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
Doesn't look like anyones put a ring on that finger  :fatty:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Frank openly hating on us makes me hurt on the inside.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
lol rake (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fsmfone_multicolour%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=a74272c013bc1268d460866bac89e54e65821d3a)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 11, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Frank openly hating on us makes me hurt on the inside.
:ck: but he said we were the greatest fans in America?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 08:50:03 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 11, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
lol rake (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fsmfone_multicolour%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=a74272c013bc1268d460866bac89e54e65821d3a)

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on April 11, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Frank openly hating on us makes me hurt on the inside.
:ck: but he said we were the greatest fans in America?


I'm being serious...

I think Frank is pretty butt hurt right now.  A combination of Currie not wanting to talk extension plus Miami not wanting to talk to him at all...all while Lon Kruger gets $2.2 million to go to OU and Mike Anderson gets $2 million to go to Arkansas, is probably eating at the big chip on his shoulder.

Frank is a guy who feels disrespected a lot.  I get it.  It's who he is, and if I were in his position, I'd probably feel the same way.  However, someone needs to get a muzzle on him because he's starting to look kind of desperate here, and that's not going to endear him to other employers.  He's pretty much the only guy out there openly lobbying for a job right now not named Larry Brown, and it looks pretty bad to basically say, "I'll take less money to go anywhere.  Takers?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on April 11, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Frank openly hating on us makes me hurt on the inside.
:ck: but he said we were the greatest fans in America?


I'm being serious...

I think Frank is pretty butt hurt right now.  A combination of Currie not wanting to talk extension plus Miami not wanting to talk to him at all...all while Lon Kruger gets $2.2 million to go to OU and Mike Anderson gets $2 million to go to Arkansas, is probably eating at the big chip on his shoulder.

Frank is a guy who feels disrespected a lot.  I get it.  It's who he is, and if I were in his position, I'd probably feel the same way.  However, someone needs to get a muzzle on him because he's starting to look kind of desperate here, and that's not going to endear him to other employers.  He's pretty much the only guy out there openly lobbying for a job right now not named Larry Brown, and it looks pretty bad to basically say, "I'll take less money to go anywhere.  Takers?"

Yep. Everyone gets that Frank is emotional and sensitive and says what he thinks, but everyone, even the most loudmouth coaches in America, also know you just don't say things like he did about this kind of stuff, for obvious reasons. I'm sure it took a lot of butthurt to cause this, but a lot of it could have also just been his inexperience in dealing with stuff like this.

The only other explanation is that he just doesn't give a crap about what we think anymore. Which wouldn't be good at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on April 11, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 11, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Frank openly hating on us makes me hurt on the inside.
:ck: but he said we were the greatest fans in America?


I'm being serious...

I think Frank is pretty butt hurt right now.  A combination of Currie not wanting to talk extension plus Miami not wanting to talk to him at all...all while Lon Kruger gets $2.2 million to go to OU and Mike Anderson gets $2 million to go to Arkansas, is probably eating at the big chip on his shoulder.

Frank is a guy who feels disrespected a lot.  I get it.  It's who he is, and if I were in his position, I'd probably feel the same way.  However, someone needs to get a muzzle on him because he's starting to look kind of desperate here, and that's not going to endear him to other employers.  He's pretty much the only guy out there openly lobbying for a job right now not named Larry Brown, and it looks pretty bad to basically say, "I'll take less money to go anywhere.  Takers?"

Yep. Everyone gets that Frank is emotional and sensitive and says what he thinks, but everyone, even the most loudmouth coaches in America, also know you just don't say things like he did about this kind of stuff, for obvious reasons. I'm sure it took a lot of butthurt to cause this, but a lot of it could have also just been his inexperience in dealing with stuff like this.

The only other explanation is that he just doesn't give a cac about what we think anymore. Which wouldn't be good at all.

Never, ever, ever underestimate the impact of this if you're looking at hiring someone.

It doesn't matter if you're an AD or a mid-level manager at a small company, you don't want to waste a bunch of hours dealing with crap like this because someone doesn't know how to handle some pretty basic professional situations.  And if he's this upset that he's not getting an extension or someone didn't offer him a job, do you really think someone at a big time program is going to want to deal with this kind of melodrama?  No.  Way.

Like I said, he needs to stop talking.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
Talk to us Frank. Tell us how you feel. Love us, love us again.  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:16:30 PM
emotional responses aside (fan responses), nobody thinks martin is particularly intelligent, but he's not a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) either.  so we should probably assume he had some reason for making these thoughts public.  something other than being paranoid, hypersensitive and u-mad.

really the only thing i can think of that isn't some deep, ridiculous mindgamey crap would be that he thinks that by making clear how much he wants the miami job, and how cheap he'd be willing to make himself be, he can move some people to pressure shalala, the interim a.d. and whoever else needs to be pressured.  that seems like a real longshot to me, but perhaps he has some indication that makes it seem a more reasonable strategy than it appears.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:19:28 PM
or maybe he is just some fiu Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).


http://www.detnews.com/article/20110411/SPORTS0203/104110408/1361/Report--Tommy-Amaker-has-%E2%80%98serious-offer%E2%80%99-to-coach-Miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 09:20:07 PM
franks been doing this crap for quite a while. This wasn't his first goddam interview, dipshits.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
SNAKE OIL SNAILSMAN!
Even as Miami ups its offer to $501k, K-State
AD Currie slow to offer Martin new contract

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wichitabar.org%2Fimages%2FcurriejSmaller.jpg&hash=637f35e287d04c93c97257c05fd9468a4004cfa8)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:16:30 PM
emotional responses aside (fan responses), nobody thinks martin is particularly intelligent, but he's not a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) either.  so we should probably assume he had some reason for making these thoughts public.  something other than being paranoid, hypersensitive and u-mad.

really the only thing i can think of that isn't some deep, ridiculous mindgamey crap would be that he thinks that by making clear how much he wants the miami job, and how cheap he'd be willing to make himself be, he can move some people to pressure shalala, the interim a.d. and whoever else needs to be pressured.  that seems like a real longshot to me, but perhaps he has some indication that makes it seem a more reasonable strategy than it appears.




So you're leaning toward the "doesn't give a crap what we think" option?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 09:20:07 PM
franks been doing this crap for quite a while. This wasn't his first goddam interview, dipshits.

lol yeah. franks been a somewhat hot commodity for head coaching jobs for decades now and gets shutout by the dream job he thought he had in the bag every couple weeks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
So you're leaning toward the "doesn't give a crap what we think" option?

i was till i saw the amaker offer blurb.  which, if true, moves me into the he's just a dumbass camp.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
So you're leaning toward the "doesn't give a crap what we think" option?

i was till i saw the amaker offer blurb.  which, if true, moves me into the he's just a dumbass camp.

yeah. I'm moving closer and closer to that camp by the minute.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
SNAKE OIL SNAILSMAN!
Even as Miami ups its offer to $501k, K-State
AD Currie slow to offer Martin new contract

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wichitabar.org%2Fimages%2FcurriejSmaller.jpg&hash=637f35e287d04c93c97257c05fd9468a4004cfa8)

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: sys on April 11, 2011, 09:19:28 PM
or maybe he is just some fiu Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).


http://www.detnews.com/article/20110411/SPORTS0203/104110408/1361/Report--Tommy-Amaker-has-%E2%80%98serious-offer%E2%80%99-to-coach-Miami

Katz couldn't have supported Frank talking to Tucker.  Frank probably went off and did that one himself.

I seriously think he's painted himself into a bad situation, doesn't know how to handle it, and is probably going to Sheen this until that job is filled.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 11, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 11, 2011, 09:33:16 PM
Katz couldn't have supported Frank talking to Tucker.  Frank probably went off and did that one himself.

I seriously think he's painted himself into a bad situation, doesn't know how to handle it, and is probably going to Sheen this until that job is filled.

It'll be interesting to hear his response when somebody asks him about the fan perception that he was shopping himself to Miami. Will he give a veiled, coach-speak answer or another "raw and honest" response? Could be fun, or a non-issue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 11, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
CURRIE THE F*CK UP!
Desperate to keep Frank Martin in Manhattan,
K-State fans tell AD to pony up — or get out

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F03%2F20%2F00%2F031911ksu_th26.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.80.JPG&hash=ea8938b26aab0c33fc3d51a4078153c8da698aa0)

Add Ted Danson to the celeb EMAW camp?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:36:02 PM
SHALALA DON'T WANNA PAY YA!
After Miami hires on the cheap, confused
Martin vows to ditch K-State next year

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 11, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
don't stop rake.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 11, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
don't stop rake.

Think I have to. Headlines getting progressively worse.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 11, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
What has K-State done exactly to be clown suited?   





Nothing really.

Isn't this the rundown?

1. Anderson gets $2 mil he's not worth....
2. Kruger gets $2.2 mil he's not really worth...
3. Miami job opens up and they don't even offer Frank an opportunity (whether he accepts or not is moot)
4. Currie doesn't offer an extension/ raise....
5. Frank feels bad because of 4 and 5
6. Frank says things that people laugh at him for in interview..

I can def. see where Currie is coming from.  Frank just got a substantial raise last year.  He was so happy he cried during the presser.  Just because Arky and OU are overpaying for coaches doesn't mean that Currie thinks he has to up Frank's pay right now. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2011, 09:52:19 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2011, 12:58:49 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 11, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
How soon and where will we see the first, "I wish Frank would have went to Miami post".

I say Dax and after the next player leaves. JHR :ohno: Nick :pbj:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-kansasst-martin

Frank is just so "hard" to read.   Excellent job getting the message out to Miami that he's really not making $1.5 million a year.   

What's next Frank, a banner behind a plane over Coral Gables?

The way that article was written makes me highly suspicious that those quotes are used in the correct context.  Every quote is preceded by a paragraph explaining what the quote is supposed to mean.  Pretty bizarre.  

Regardless, the direct quotes on their own are fairly disconcerting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
Frank has given Currie almost no reason to give him a raise, even into the future. He already publicly stated that he's willing to coach somewhere else for less money, so what's the point of paying him more?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 11, 2011, 10:25:02 PM
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/is-frank-martins-style-a-turn-off-miami-169255

Curtis Kitchen weighs in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 11, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 09:20:07 PM
franks been doing this crap for quite a while. This wasn't his first goddam interview, dipshits.

lol yeah. franks been a somewhat hot commodity for head coaching jobs for decades now and gets shutout by the dream job he thought he had in the bag every couple weeks.

He has been offered shitloads of money to go elsewhere and successfully negotiated a raise in the middle of the season. Plus, he has an agent who's been there several times with huggs. But yeah, he probably just got flustered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: fatty fat fat on April 11, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
don't stop rake.

Think I have to. Headlines getting progressively worse.  :frown:

no.  they're great. 

Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
SNAKE OIL SNAILSMAN!
Even as Miami ups its offer to $501k, K-State
AD Currie slow to offer Martin new contract

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wichitabar.org%2Fimages%2FcurriejSmaller.jpg&hash=637f35e287d04c93c97257c05fd9468a4004cfa8)

my fav.  the clever  $501k
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
Being Frank
Frank Martin Calls Florida A&M and UNLV A.D.'s Insisting he only makes 1.1 Million Dollars
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collegehoopsnet.com%2Fsites%2Fcollegehoopsnet.com.new%2Ffiles%2FRaphielle%2520Johnson%2Ffrankmartin.jpeg&hash=44744a616e527af461a78c1d4d8f44e2e826beb6)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 11, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 11, 2011, 10:25:02 PM
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/is-frank-martins-style-a-turn-off-miami-169255

Curtis Kitchen weighs in.

Wow. Frank blew his chances back in November according to Kitchen. But damn, Miami is full of dumbshits.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 11:29:39 PM
NO FEAR IN VANIER!
As K-State fans melt down over Martin,
Snyder's seat doesn't feel so hot anymore

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg684.imageshack.us%2Fimg684%2F1824%2F12661006.jpg&hash=08244dbda8986283e2c5768d860df78e99723e01) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/12661006.jpg/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 11, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
K-STATE PREZ FLUSHES
CURRIE DOWN THE JOHN!
Tired of transparency talk, Schulz
bags AD, tells Martin to cheat more

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg192.imageshack.us%2Fimg192%2F3416%2Fkirkfam.jpg&hash=3ca640362f390bd6b64a2f4ce069ec6a5aafed68) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/kirkfam.jpg/)

Kirk Schulz, pictured above, cheers after firing John Currie.
"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying," Schulz said. "I love
Frank Martin and I want him to cheat like I do with rankings!"


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: raquetcat on April 12, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
j rake you're the highlight of this thead  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 12:11:16 AM
For once I actually agree with Dax.  We keep the same coach (who I believe is pretty good) without giving him a raise while OU and Mizzou throw stupid money at mediocre coaches.   Seems like KSU is winning this round.  Course, we'll likely lose Frank and hire some schlub in the next year or two but the clownsuits are being handed out in Miami, Norman, and Colombia this year, not MHK.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2011, 12:45:20 AM
IT'S PAT!
Bosco gets fed up with Currie's hesitation;
gives raise to Frank himself

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kstatecollegian.com%2Fpolopoly_fs%2F1.2116904%21%2Fimage%2F1835961545.jpg_gen%2Fderivatives%2Flandscape_240%2F1835961545.jpg&hash=fe5931d5c60c480a9f73657c1156b9d6e6b904ad) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/kirkfam.jpg/)

Eerily similar to the Curits Kelly situation,
Bosco saves Kansas State basketball once again
while Currie sits on his ass doing nothing

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 12, 2011, 12:56:30 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
K-STATE PREZ FLUSHES
CURRIE DOWN THE JOHN!
Tired of transparency talk, Schulz
bags AD, tells Martin to cheat more

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg192.imageshack.us%2Fimg192%2F3416%2Fkirkfam.jpg&hash=3ca640362f390bd6b64a2f4ce069ec6a5aafed68) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/kirkfam.jpg/)

Kirk Schulz, pictured above, cheers after firing John Currie.
"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying," Schulz said. "I love
Frank Martin and I want him to cheat like I do with rankings!"



lol holy crap this one is a masterpiece
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 12, 2011, 01:08:42 AM
MORE

MOCK HEADLINES MAKE ME HAPPY SO MUCH

DO THEM WELL TOO. USE RAKE'S TEMPLATE
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 12, 2011, 01:10:04 AM
steves one was good too. i liked the caption.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 12, 2011, 03:51:21 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 12, 2011, 12:56:30 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
K-STATE PREZ FLUSHES
CURRIE DOWN THE JOHN!
Tired of transparency talk, Schulz
bags AD, tells Martin to cheat more

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg192.imageshack.us%2Fimg192%2F3416%2Fkirkfam.jpg&hash=3ca640362f390bd6b64a2f4ce069ec6a5aafed68) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/kirkfam.jpg/)

Kirk Schulz, pictured above, cheers after firing John Currie.
"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying," Schulz said. "I love
Frank Martin and I want him to cheat like I do with rankings!"



lol holy crap this one is a masterpiece

i knew we couldn't stay mad at rake forever
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:21:56 AM
Is it time for the Krause Doctorine??:
Former K-State AD slurs in, "Get me a napkin, a pen, and a scotch"
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.49abcnews.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2009%2F01%2F27%2FKrauseBob_08_t300.JPG%3F8aff03de2423e912a2467e97388a07f5331c05b6&hash=1979a21a8569d03839676e3833ef7662b2491ef9)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:32:16 AM
Why would Kirby Hocutt leave the Miami AD job to go to Lubbock, TX right after hiring a new football coach?

I think we got that question answered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 06:55:18 AM
Frank with some angry eyes and some loud yelling when Tommy Amaker turns down Miami to stay at Harvard.

Gonna be interesting to see how many of UM's top candidates turn them down before Frank finally gets his call. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 07:24:45 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 12, 2011, 03:51:21 AM
i knew we couldn't stay mad at rake forever

why were we mad at rake again?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
It's amazing how the perception of a person can change so quickly. Frank's spent 4 years working on proving his loyalty and brutal honesty, and he was consistent at that (as well as so many other things), that it was easy to root for the guy. Now in the span of a few days he goes from telling some media members that he won't talk about the Miami job (or any other job), to openly questioning why Miami hasn't called.

Integrity and trust is so hard to build up but oh so easy to lose. I agree with Pan, Frank needs to pipe down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 07:34:46 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
It's amazing how the perception of a person can change so quickly. Frank's spent 4 years working on proving his loyalty and brutal honesty, and he was consistent at that (as well as so many other things), that it was easy to root for the guy. Now in the span of a few days he goes from telling some media members that he won't talk about the Miami job (or any other job), to openly questioning why Miami hasn't called.

Integrity and trust is so hard to build up but oh so easy to lose. I agree with Pan, Frank needs to pipe down.

frank has always been full of crap, just like all coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 07:36:38 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 07:34:46 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
It's amazing how the perception of a person can change so quickly. Frank's spent 4 years working on proving his loyalty and brutal honesty, and he was consistent at that (as well as so many other things), that it was easy to root for the guy. Now in the span of a few days he goes from telling some media members that he won't talk about the Miami job (or any other job), to openly questioning why Miami hasn't called.

Integrity and trust is so hard to build up but oh so easy to lose. I agree with Pan, Frank needs to pipe down.

frank has always been full of crap, just like all coaches.

They're all the same. All of them.

Except Mark Few and Chris Petersen (so far).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:43:38 AM
I do agree that they are all the same, but Frank has always seemed to conceal it better.
Granted, it's a minor point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 07:45:26 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:43:38 AM
I do agree that they are all the same, but Frank has always seemed to conceal it better.
Granted, it's a minor point.

well, I guess he did a good job concealing it to morons. No offense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 07:48:06 AM
THIS MARTIN'S NOT PURPLE!
Frank publicly tells ksu fans to go F themselves.  Currie's plan on course.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbnails.cbsig.net%2FCBS_Production_Sports%2F681%2F700%2F020911_sd_frank_martin_640x480.jpg&hash=62cd483771a3a16c098459cef7afc66a03d69e76) (http://thumbnails.cbsig.net/CBS_Production_Sports/681/700/020911_sd_frank_martin_640x480.jpg/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 07:53:38 AM
So I'm picturing Frank waking up every morning now with a big "sigh..."  Walking into the kitchen to make some coffee (kicks the crap out of the dog) and sitting down to a laptop to see what's happening with the Miami search.  After a few moments he mutters... "mother fuckers" a few times, slams the laptop shut, (kicks the crap out of that dog again) and limps off to take a shower.  (Cries in the shower)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 07:56:09 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 06:55:18 AM
Frank with some angry eyes and some loud yelling when Tommy Amaker turns down Miami to stay at Harvard.

Gonna be interesting to see how many of UM's top candidates turn them down before Frank finally gets his call. 



Frank won't get a call.  Miami wants a guy that's squeaky clean.  Frank is shaky clean.

If they won't even call Frank, it doesn't seem like much of a leap to guess that Gruden wanted the football job but was rejected somewhere above the AD level.  Any of the other reasons that have been floated about what caused Hocutt to flee are ridiculous.  That one makes sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 08:12:56 AM
DINNER GOT DANGEROUS!
Source: Night before AD's dismissal, Martin,
Currie threw down at Harry's Uptown

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg822.imageshack.us%2Fimg822%2F3426%2Fx610xh.jpg&hash=c26c2da70ba7595f47c07beb4699e69f7e418897) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/x610xh.jpg/)


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2011, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 11, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
SNAKE OIL SNAILSMAN!
Even as Miami ups its offer to $501k, K-State
AD Currie slow to offer Martin new contract

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wichitabar.org%2Fimages%2FcurriejSmaller.jpg&hash=637f35e287d04c93c97257c05fd9468a4004cfa8)

You're terrible at these.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 07:45:26 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 07:43:38 AM
I do agree that they are all the same, but Frank has always seemed to conceal it better.
Granted, it's a minor point.

well, I guess he did a good job concealing it to morons. No offense.

None taken......guess my primary comparison (until yesterday) has been Mike Anderson who did everything to get speculation out and about, and even he and his agent commented on it. Frank has obviously been speculating around, but he usually refuses to comment on it

Until yesterday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 07:53:38 AM
So I'm picturing Frank waking up every morning now with a big "sigh..."  Walking into the kitchen to make some coffee (kicks the cac out of the dog) and sitting down to a laptop to see what's happening with the Miami search.  After a few moments he mutters... "mother effers" a few times, slams the laptop shut, (kicks the cac out of that dog again) and limps off to take a shower.  (Cries in the shower)

You forgot - checks weather.com for zip code 33109, mumbles "you gotta be rough ridin' kidding me"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Just a little reminder to the board at page fifty something.

All Frank has to do in order to make $1.55 million dollars in 2011-2012 is be alive, and be working as head men's basketball coach at K-State.   That's his salary plus a retention bonus.   For this year he'll make a minimum of $1.3 million, it could go over that depending the APR scores and what not.   Once you toss in all the other little perks, likely non on court related performance bonuses, Frank's total compensation package for 2011-2012 nears $1.7 million .   In addition, just last spring he got a signing bonus of nearly $500K.  

Upon reading that, maybe some of you "guys" will understand why Currie is probably letting Frank sit and stew on his angry chair for awhile.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Just a little reminder to the board at page fifty something.

All Frank has to do in order to make $1.55 million dollars in 2011-2012 is be alive, and be working as head men's basketball coach at K-State.   That's his salary plus a retention bonus.   For this year he'll make a minimum of $1.3 million, it could go over that depending the APR scores and what not.   Once you toss in all the other little perks, likely non on court related performance bonuses, Frank's total compensation package for 2011-2012 nears $1.7 million .   In addition, just last spring he got a signing bonus of nearly $500K.  

Upon reading that, maybe some of you "guys" will understand why Currie is probably letting Frank sit and stew on his angry chair for awhile.  

I agree and think more to blame than Currie is Arkansas, Missouri, and OU for paying stupid money for non-deserving coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 12, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Just a little reminder to the board at page fifty something.

All Frank has to do in order to make $1.55 million dollars in 2011-2012 is be alive, and be working as head men's basketball coach at K-State.   That's his salary plus a retention bonus.   For this year he'll make a minimum of $1.3 million, it could go over that depending the APR scores and what not.   Once you toss in all the other little perks, likely non on court related performance bonuses, Frank's total compensation package for 2011-2012 nears $1.7 million .   In addition, just last spring he got a signing bonus of nearly $500K.  

Upon reading that, maybe some of you "guys" will understand why Currie is probably letting Frank sit and stew on his angry chair for awhile.  

I agree and think more to blame than Currie is Arkansas, Missouri, and OU for paying stupid money for non-deserving coaches.

Absolutely.  How can Frank not want a raise with those 2 fruits getting one?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg638.imageshack.us%2Fimg638%2F3654%2Fgetout.png&hash=c9518942e2dc84038248d6eac8739049f81a0e58) (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/getout.png/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 10:22:35 AM
Not sure what impact, if any, this will have; Miami has an AD: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/12/2163347_um-to-hire-wisconsin-official.html#storylink=addthis
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 07:53:38 AM
So I'm picturing Frank waking up every morning now with a big "sigh..."  Walking into the kitchen to make some coffee (kicks the crap out of the dog) and sitting down to a laptop to see what's happening with the Miami search.  After a few moments he mutters... "mother fuckers" a few times, slams the laptop shut, (kicks the crap out of that dog again) and limps off to take a shower.  (Cries in the shower)

i think martin would say "what a joke" rather than "mother fuckers".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Just a little reminder to the board at page fifty something.

All Frank has to do in order to make $1.55 million dollars in 2011-2012 is be alive, and be working as head men's basketball coach at K-State.   That's his salary plus a retention bonus.   For this year he'll make a minimum of $1.3 million, it could go over that depending the APR scores and what not.   Once you toss in all the other little perks, likely non on court related performance bonuses, Frank's total compensation package for 2011-2012 nears $1.7 million .   In addition, just last spring he got a signing bonus of nearly $500K.  

Upon reading that, maybe some of you "guys" will understand why Currie is probably letting Frank sit and stew on his angry chair for awhile.  

not that it doesn't matter what he's being paid or will be paid but what matters more is how much someone else will pay him.  frank's basically saying "i've turned down jobs that were going to offer me more money, so maybe you (currie) should reconsider how much you pay me or I'm going to leave.  Also, tell miami that i'd run to that job for 1.3M".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on April 12, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
Frank has done nothing this past year to warrent a raise or extention.  If Miami came calling he would have some leverage and he is pissed that they didn't even throw him a bone.  The salary talk is strange and probably a stupid ploy for who knows what reason but it really makes him look dumb. 

I'm kind of meh on the whole thing, he will have a below average season this next year due to the talent drop and learning curve for the new guys.  If he can pull something out of his back side and have a good run in the big 12 next year he could probably have a sit down with Curry and make demands for an extention (if that is what he wants) Still confused by his statements, but until I hear different, I assume he just did a bad job in the wrong place to create leverage.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 10:24:48 AM
frank's basically saying "i've turned down jobs that were going to offer me more money, so maybe you (currie) should reconsider how much you pay me or I'm going to leave.  Also, tell miami that i'd run to that job for 1.3M".

yeah, martin has made it pretty clear that when next year's renegotions open there's not much point in discussing money.  martin will be trying to get the campus relocated to miami, currie may open with keeping the campus in kansas, but if he decides to play hardball he'll push for chicago or eugene.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
Well, this is interesting. The new Miami AD has seen Frank coach in person twice.

I'm sure Bo Ryan will give Frank a ringing endorsement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 10:40:56 AM
Does the new Miami AD really want to have "hired Tommy Amaker" on his resume?

The guy is going to make an aggressive push for FRANK!

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
looks like a less scrawny john currie  :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.miamiherald.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F04%2F12%2F11%2F20267_1.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg&hash=d2ffa849634dfeb27cca09e1a23d189e2019ee38)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
looks like a less scrawny john currie  :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.miamiherald.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F04%2F12%2F11%2F20267_1.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg&hash=d2ffa849634dfeb27cca09e1a23d189e2019ee38)

Very Wisconsin-y looking. Like he eats lots of cheese and could easily be Bruesewitz's uncle.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 10:45:58 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
looks like a less scrawny john currie  :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.miamiherald.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F04%2F12%2F11%2F20267_1.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg&hash=d2ffa849634dfeb27cca09e1a23d189e2019ee38)

OMG that's saul's cousin!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 10:45:39 AM
could easily be Bruesewitz's uncle.

bruesewitz is very attractive, this person is not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 12, 2011, 10:56:11 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
looks like a less scrawny john currie  :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.miamiherald.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F04%2F12%2F11%2F20267_1.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg&hash=d2ffa849634dfeb27cca09e1a23d189e2019ee38)

If I lived in Miami I would be stocking up on a few years worth of sunscreen before this guy gets to town.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
Great now national sport talk personalities are lobbying for Frank to the U. Everyone hates us  :bawl:

Quote from: Jim Rome
The U needs to hire Frank Martin. Fast.....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Just a little reminder to the board at page fifty something.

All Frank has to do in order to make $1.55 million dollars in 2011-2012 is be alive, and be working as head men's basketball coach at K-State.   That's his salary plus a retention bonus.   For this year he'll make a minimum of $1.3 million, it could go over that depending the APR scores and what not.   Once you toss in all the other little perks, likely non on court related performance bonuses, Frank's total compensation package for 2011-2012 nears $1.7 million .   In addition, just last spring he got a signing bonus of nearly $500K.  

Upon reading that, maybe some of you "guys" will understand why Currie is probably letting Frank sit and stew on his angry chair for awhile.  

not that it doesn't matter what he's being paid or will be paid but what matters more is how much someone else will pay him.  frank's basically saying "i've turned down jobs that were going to offer me more money, so maybe you (currie) should reconsider how much you pay me or I'm going to leave.  Also, tell miami that i'd run to that job for 1.3M".

I understand, but he's probably not going to get any more money from K-State right now.   If he wants more money he should have taken those other jobs or found a better agent.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 12, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
Rome talking about it now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 12, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
Rome talking about it now.

'Grats Frank!

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
Gonna be fun as hell to boo Frank and cheer Currie this coming season  :pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 12, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
the last 24 hours have been really interesting.  surprising how many of you became Currie lovers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 12, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
the last 24 hours have been really interesting.  surprising how many of you became Currie lovers

I'm not 100% certain you know what's going on
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
You know, at the end of the day even if Frank doesn't get his dream job he should be proud of himself for the amazing effort he put forth.

At this point, I'm kind of rootin' for him.  

This is truly one of the great performances.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
eff John Currie for making Frank's job so unbearable.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
You know, at the end of the day even if Frank doesn't get his dream job he should be proud of himself for the amazing effort he put forth.

At this point, I'm kind of rootin' for him.  

This is truly one of the great performances.




It has been great. 

And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

Hey Frank . . . go recruit somebody worth a damn will ya!!

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 12, 2011, 11:30:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 12, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
the last 24 hours have been really interesting.  surprising how many of you became Currie lovers

I'm not 100% certain you know what's going on

nobody is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:

Yeah, bad enunciation.  I wouldn't care if Frank got dumped should it be determined he's running the program into the ground.  I care that Currie makes things difficult for Frank because he doesn't fit into the tuck mold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2011, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:

Yeah, bad enunciation.  I wouldn't care if Frank got dumped should it be determined he's running the program into the ground.  I care that Currie makes things difficult for Frank because he doesn't fit into the tuck mold.

Currie knows the tucks pay the bills. He's really done an incredible job when you compare him to our past AD's.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Kind of cool how much the national media loves Frank.  What a team effort for their darling!

I'm gonna really miss that when this new AD tells this dumbass search committee to eff off and hires him.




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
It's hard to hate Currie given that Schulz hired him.

Schulz is just amazing.  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2011, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 12, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
It's hard to hate Currie given that Schulz hired him.

Schulz is just amazing.  :love:

Tier 1! :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 12, 2011, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
eff John Currie for making Frank's job so unbearable.

  Trim gets "it."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:

Yeah, bad enunciation.  I wouldn't care if Frank got dumped should it be determined he's running the program into the ground.  I care that Currie makes things difficult for Frank because he doesn't fit into the tuck mold.

Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PurpleSleezyE on April 12, 2011, 11:41:04 AM
Ok - seriously.  I love Frank, but even he has to understand that some people may actually not want him as their coach.

It is like the girl you have a mad crush on that you would do anything to go out with, but she is not interested.  You can act like a dipcac and look all stupid OR you can start working it more, get a better car, etc.  

Then come back to her when you are more awesome.  Frank is not even close to matching his potential in awesomeness.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 12, 2011, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.
If Pearl isnt' given a "show cause" thingy ma-jig and we hire him, then he would totally alleviate any "Frank is gone" anxiety that I may experience.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:

Yeah, bad enunciation.  I wouldn't care if Frank got dumped should it be determined he's running the program into the ground.  I care that Currie makes things difficult for Frank because he doesn't fit into the tuck mold.

Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 12, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Kind of cool how much the national media loves Frank.  What a team effort for their darling!

I'm gonna really miss that when this new AD tells this dumbass search committee to eff off and hires him.

dunno.  he's boys with shalalalala so one would assume that they've already discussed the hire in the interview process.  but frank is putting the full court press on for miami.  an interview (when he said he wouldn't do one) and now telling rome to lobby for him, all while a new ad gets announced.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.

I was all for bumping Frank's pay if someone was making a legitimate move to get him. That doesn't appear to be happening and he has for whatever reason reacted poorly or at least didn't convey very well what he really wanted to with the AP reporter. So even if he just wanted Miami to be interested, really wanted to go home, or if he's ticked at Currie, it doesn't matter now because he has no leverage unless Miami changes course and comes after him. Probably his best choice now is to just remain quiet, let this play out, make sure he gets Rodriguez signed, then have an informal sit down with the local media guys and get this thing over. Then figure out how he's going to piece next year's team together to hopefully contend for an NCAA birth.

In the unlikely scenario that Frank leaves, I'd be all for going after Pearl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.

yeah, I would be for doing this mid-summer or whenever this rough ridin' stupid show clause thing dipshits keep talking about is cleared up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 12, 2011, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.

I was all for bumping Frank's pay if someone was making a legitimate move to get him. That doesn't appear to be happening and he has for whatever reason reacted poorly or at least didn't convey very well what he really wanted to with the AP reporter. So even if he just wanted Miami to be interested, really wanted to go home, or if he's ticked at Currie, it doesn't matter now because he has no leverage unless Miami changes course and comes after him. Probably his best choice now is to just remain quiet, let this play out, make sure he gets Rodriguez signed, then have an informal sit down with the local media guys and get this thing over. Then figure out how he's going to piece next year's team together to hopefully contend for an NCAA birth.

In the unlikely scenario that Frank leaves, I'd be all for going after Pearl.

I think _FAN and I are the only ones that realize this is just one big misunderstanding. He was taken out of context. This will blow over. Everyone keep loving Frank ok.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 12:20:52 PM
 :bawl: why Frank?  Why???  :bawl: we loved you so much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.

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this. can we fly a banner in the OOD?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
oscar Pearl is permanently contaminated.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 12, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
oscar Pearl is permanently contaminated.

with awesomeness (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fsmfone_multicolour%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=a74272c013bc1268d460866bac89e54e65821d3a)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 04, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
does anyone else think this could work out where ksu cats are better off by letting frank go and hiring steve henson.  don't even try to keep frank, just release him from his contract and use any money it will take to get henson back home within the ksu cats family.  seems like a perfect fit and i'm just reading between the lines sorry guys but no need to meltdown.  hensies is comin hom.e  yes.

stop w/ the pearl talk folks, rumor (strong rumor) that currie is going after hensies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on April 12, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
This is going to take away from the Snyder hate. Hate will be split between the two instead of focused on the one. Don't split your hate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.

I was all for bumping Frank's pay if someone was making a legitimate move to get him. That doesn't appear to be happening and he has for whatever reason reacted poorly or at least didn't convey very well what he really wanted to with the AP reporter. So even if he just wanted Miami to be interested, really wanted to go home, or if he's ticked at Currie, it doesn't matter now because he has no leverage unless Miami changes course and comes after him. Probably his best choice now is to just remain quiet, let this play out, make sure he gets Rodriguez signed, then have an informal sit down with the local media guys and get this thing over. Then figure out how he's going to piece next year's team together to hopefully contend for an NCAA birth.

In the unlikely scenario that Frank leaves, I'd be all for going after Pearl.

what, exactly, did frank want to convey that he didn't mean to?  he wants to coach in miami, wants miami to know that he'd go for less than what's been reported yet doesn't think he's getting paid enough at ksu, and that he's turned down larger contract offers in the past so currie better give him more money or he's leaving as soon as he can.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: _33 on April 12, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
This is going to take away from the Snyder hate. Hate will be split between the two instead of focused on the one. Don't split your hate.

Frank could punch my mom and I would still hate Bill more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
what, exactly, did frank want to convey that he didn't mean to?  he wants to coach in miami, wants miami to know that he'd go for less than what's been reported yet doesn't think he's getting paid enough at ksu, and that he's turned down larger contract offers in the past so currie better give him more money or he's leaving as soon as he can.

I'm not sure, you never know with Frank. Its not like he hasn't messed stuff up with the media before. I have no doubt Frank knows how to use the media and what media to use. I agree with the point that if it was just about wanting Miami to go after him, he could've easily told one of the Miami news organizations, but he told the AP, so he wanted more than just Miami/K-State to be involved. But I also have no doubt that he didn't exactly get out there what he wanted, or how he wanted it to be said. I don't think its just "I want to go to Miami", or "I want to get paid more"; more than likely a bit of both because his ego was hurt.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
bad enunciation.

magnificent usage.   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
Gonna be fun as hell to boo Frank and cheer Currie this coming season  :pbj:

Like, through your t.v. from Omaha?!   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 12, 2011, 10:40:56 AM
Does the new Miami AD really want to have "hired Tommy Amaker" on his resume?

The guy is going to make an aggressive push for FRANK!

 :ksu:

it's good to know that martin's public self-humilation isn't going to be enough to cure the j rake & the local media's butthurt epidemic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
bad enunciation.

magnificent usage.   :love:

 :adored:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 12, 2011, 12:45:57 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 12, 2011, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 11:23:39 AM
And Trim . . . big props to John Currie for showing Frank who is boss.   Otherwise we're headed down the same path we got put on by OB.

I don't care if Frank gets fired because he sucks at being a basketball coach.
If Pearl isnt' given a "show cause" thingy ma-jig and we hire him, then he would totally alleviate any "Frank is gone" anxiety that I may experience.

 :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :surprised: :horrorsurprise: :dubious:

Yeah, bad enunciation.  I wouldn't care if Frank got dumped should it be determined he's running the program into the ground.  I care that Currie makes things difficult for Frank because he doesn't fit into the tuck mold.

Yeah, it's a tough call.  

Hey, more props to Frank if he's praying on non tuck fears and hoping that the administration has non tuck/anti tuck fears as well.  

Wabash . . . but I am secretly holding out for a Frank move to Miami, and then a Pearl hire.   That's almost full time midnight BBS'ing right there son.


If Pearl isnt' given a "show cause" thingy ma-jig and we hire him, then he would totally alleviate any "Frank is gone" anxiety that I may experience.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 12:48:45 PM
We know Frank's been acting a fool w/various media entities, but I'd like a transparency report on what Currie's been doing the last few days.  Getting the yard sign specs finalized?  Equestrian report?  Olive Garden (w/Schulz' gift card)?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 12:52:43 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 12:48:45 PM
We know Frank's been acting a fool w/various media entities, but I'd like a transparency report on what Currie's been doing the last few days.  Getting the yard sign specs finalized?  Equestrian report?  Olive Garden (w/Schulz' gift card)?

he's apparently been sitting back and letting his head basketball coach destroy all contract negotiation bargaining power he may have once had.  so I guess winning to dust off that shitty old charlie sheen meme.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 12, 2011, 01:03:56 PM
Currie playing the Lazzai Fare card. (I know I more than likely spelled that wrong)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Harvard's Tommy Amaker told FOXSports.com he is staying with the Crimson. Flattered by Miami interest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Harvard's Tommy Amaker told FOXSports.com he is staying with the Crimson. Flattered by Miami interest.



:bitchslap: :frank: :bitchslap:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
Flattered by Miami interest.

well, naturally.  who wouldn't be?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pett on April 12, 2011, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Harvard's Tommy Amaker told FOXSports.com he is staying with the Crimson. Flattered by Miami interest.



:bitchslap: :frank: :bitchslap:

He cusses! ALOT! You don't want him U of M! :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
god I hope miami contacts frank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
Flattered by Miami interest.

well, naturally.  who wouldn't be?

Wish I knew what they offered.  Shalalalala could have offered something r-word like 500k.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 12, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
 :bwpopcorn:  :ohno:  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
does currie have the balls to fire frank?  what is his buyout?  does him making an ass out of himself via the media and making the university look like fools for employing him do anything to void the buyout so we can cut ties and walk away now?  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 12, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 12, 2011, 01:29:48 PM
The plates on Frank's Corolla in 5 years.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.images-graphics-pics.com%2Fsigns%2Flicense%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fcolor%3Dblack%26amp%3Bmove%3D40%26amp%3Bmove2%3D10%26amp%3Bfontsize%3D9%26amp%3Btext%3DKSU%2BH8R%26amp%3Bfont%3Dsignage%26amp%3Ballow%3D246490%26amp%3Bpic%3DUSA%2Ffl%2Fflorida2004&hash=3d01df83784511fb70c465bc95d1ce4680667e32)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 12, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 12, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
Gonna be fun as hell to boo Frank and cheer Currie this coming season  :pbj:

Like, through your t.v. from Omaha?!   :emawkid:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
I want Miami to offer Frank 1.75 but not necessarily give him autonomy from dorkstore ADs to where he figures better to be with the dorkstore you know than the dorkstore you don't, and then he can feel good about leveraging the crap out of Currie.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 12, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
I want Miami to offer Frank 1.75 but not necessarily give him autonomy from dorkstore ADs to where he figures better to be with the dorkstore you know than the dorkstore you don't, and then he can feel good about leveraging the crap out of Currie.

they won't though.  will be hilarious to see frank try to leverage a $700k offer into a raise from currie and watch currie just sit back and ignore him. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 12, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.


Hmmmm, a Pre-emptive Fire Martin Campaign.  This is something I could get behind.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 12, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.


Hmmmm, a Pre-emptive Fire Martin Campaign.  This is something I could get behind.

Risky until after June.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Missouri is moving up the "things Stupid Fitz hates" scale.

Just a thought, but when Frank leaves, can we still call it the OOD?  I mean, it just won't be the same without Frank screaming shazbot! and staring at people.

***I was going to come up with something creative instead of Doom for coach Pearl but couldn't think of anything. :frown:  I'm going to miss Doom. It was a fun few years. Go Bat Quats!!!! :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2011, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:01:42 PM


Just a thought, but when Frank leaves, can we still call it the OOD?  I mean, it just won't be the same without Frank screaming shazbot! and staring at people.




short answer: yes. the anger in the arena and general attitude needs to be the student body's responsibility, regardless of what the coach is doing. not that frank's antics don't help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Missouri is moving up the "things Stupid Fitz hates" scale.

Just a thought, but when Frank leaves, can we still call it the OOD?  I mean, it just won't be the same without Frank screaming shazbot! and staring at people.

***I was going to come up with something creative instead of Doom for coach Pearl but couldn't think of anything. :frown:  I'm going to miss Doom. It was a fun few years. Go Bat Quats!!!! :ksu:

Frank has nothing to do with the OOD.  eff people, have some self respect.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 12, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
I had someone tell me that Martin wasn't very happy about a "fire frank" website midway through the season... did anyone see this?  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 12, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
I had someone tell me that Martin wasn't very happy about a "fire frank" website midway through the season... did anyone see this?  :ck:

it didn't exist.  he's probably just all butthurt about this site and talking about dax saying he should be fired.  what a whiny eff.  have we fired this loser yet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Missouri is moving up the "things Stupid Fitz hates" scale.

Just a thought, but when Frank leaves, can we still call it the OOD?  I mean, it just won't be the same without Frank screaming shazbot! and staring at people.

***I was going to come up with something creative instead of Doom for coach Pearl but couldn't think of anything. :frown:  I'm going to miss Doom. It was a fun few years. Go Bat Quats!!!! :ksu:

Frank has nothing to do with the OOD.  eff people, have some self respect.  

I know, but he helped. oscar in a purple suit will be freaking  :pbj: but it won't be the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 02:12:12 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 12, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 12, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.


Hmmmm, a Pre-emptive Fire Martin Campaign.  This is something I could get behind.

Risky until after June.

hensies
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kaiser Soze on April 12, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
This may have been discussed....sorry if I missed it.  With Frank publicly flirting with another job, does Rodriguez still come to KState if Frank stays?  Doubt it.  Why not make the safe play and go to Louisvilel where the coach is more likely to be there in four years when you're done?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 02:12:12 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 12, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 12, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
If Martin doesn't get Miami and pearl is cleared to coach with no penalties then I am starting a fire Martin and hire pearl campaign.


Hmmmm, a Pre-emptive Fire Martin Campaign.  This is something I could get behind.

Risky until after June.

hensies

 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 12, 2011, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on April 12, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
With Frank publicly flirting with another job, does Rodriguez still come to KState if Frank stays?  ne?

who gives a crap? he's a 3 star. big whoop.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on April 12, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
This may have been discussed....sorry if I missed it.  With Frank publicly flirting with another job, does Rodriguez still come to KState if Frank stays?  Doubt it.  Why not make the safe play and go to Louisvilel where the coach is more likely to be there in four years when you're done?


he's a ksu lock as his verbal was binding.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 02:19:32 PM
steve henson, next ksu cat head coach.  someone that k-staters can be PROUD of, he's one of us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 02:19:32 PM
steve henson, next ksu cat head coach.  someone that k-staters can be PROUD of, he's one of us.

I haven't read any recent AP pieces including numerous quotes of him verbally shitting the bed so I'd say he's more qualified than our loser of a current coach. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on April 12, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
This may have been discussed....sorry if I missed it.  With Frank publicly flirting with another job, does Rodriguez still come to KState if Frank stays?  Doubt it.  Why not make the safe play and go to Louisvilel where the coach is more likely to be there in four years when you're done?

Going to Miami with Frank and Stupid Fitz's Frank Doom shirt and coffee mug.  :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank?  All he is good at is getting caught cheating (wouldnt mind a cheater that didnt get caught).  Tennessee never made it farther than the elite 8 under him.  Frank has the same credential, with less tenure...

That being said, no way Pearl is even remotely available to coach this year, might as well forget about him anyway.  The NCAA is a-holes, he will get show caused for sure.

P.S.  All you fire frank peeps are idiots...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank? 

he knows how to talk without sounding like a bumbling jackass. :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank? 

he knows how to talk without sounding like a bumbling jackass. :ck:

Who cares?  Shouldnt it be about who can make kstate bball a nationally relevant program?  Frank has done that... so far.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank? 

That I recall he never crap all over the school he was currently working for  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:34:48 PM
Man oh man Frank really ruffled some goEMAW feathers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank? 

That I recall he never cac all over the school he was currently working for  :ck:

Pretty good argument to fire a coach who took the team to multiple tournaments for the first time in over a decade...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank?  All he is good at is getting caught cheating (wouldnt mind a cheater that didnt get caught).  Tennessee never made it farther than the elite 8 under him.  Frank has the same credential, with less tenure...

That being said, no way Pearl is even remotely available to coach this year, might as well forget about him anyway.  The NCAA is a-holes, he will get show caused for sure.

P.S.  All you fire frank peeps are idiots...

I'm for Frank...

But Pearl has 3 Sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8.

And eight NCAA trips in his last nine years of coaching basketball.

That's pretty good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 12, 2011, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
How is Pearl any better than Frank?  All he is good at is getting caught cheating (wouldnt mind a cheater that didnt get caught).  Tennessee never made it farther than the elite 8 under him.  Frank has the same credential, with less tenure...

That being said, no way Pearl is even remotely available to coach this year, might as well forget about him anyway.  The NCAA is a-holes, he will get show caused for sure.

P.S.  All you fire frank peeps are idiots...

I'm for Frank...

But Pearl has 3 Sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8.

And eight NCAA trips in his last nine years of coaching basketball.

That's pretty good.
At a shitty basketball school nonetheless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on April 12, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
Does anybody hate Pearl for ratting out other cheaters, thus preventing him from ever being able to get away with anything?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: bradleigh on April 12, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
Does anybody hate Pearl for ratting out other cheaters, thus preventing him from ever being able to get away with anything?

No.  Would love to see what he does once in the same conf as Drew.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

theus
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

Worst case scenario. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

Frank goes to Miami... we hire Pearl, cheats his way to an elite 8, then goes to his alma mater Boston College in 4 years.  It's a never ending cycle.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 02:59:03 PM
BTW, now would be a terrible time to lose a coach and have to look for a new one. The late signing period starts tomorrow. Granted, it goes until mid-May, but you don't want to have to deal with a coach leaving, searching for a new coach, hiring a new coach, players leaving, then trying to find new players this late in the game. That part would be terrible. Hiring someone decent like Pearl would make it a bit better, but its still not ideal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 12, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

theus

Weren't you the guy who wanted rick majerus?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on April 12, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.



This!!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fuktard on April 12, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
This board reminds me of the idiots that scream for the second string quarter back anytime the first stringer throws an incompletion.  They're position is safe (warm and fuzzy) as long as the second stringer stays on the bench...they can continue to scream and bitch with impunity, feeling superior in their fantasy decision making prowess.  It's only when the second stringer comes trotting in and promptly throws a pick 6 that the goEAW'er is in jeopardy of looking a fool.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 12, 2011, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 12, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
This board reminds me of the idiots that scream for the second string quarter back anytime the first stringer throws an incompletion.  They're position is safe (warm and fuzzy) as long as the second stringer stays on the bench...they can continue to scream and bitch with impunity, feeling superior in their fantasy decision making prowess.  It's only when the second stringer comes trotting in and promptly throws a pick 6 that the goEAW'er is in jeopardy of looking a fool.

Well if we were going to run a sneak at the end of the half against MU then we should have had Klein in there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bookcat on April 12, 2011, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 12, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
This board reminds me of the idiots that scream for the second string quarter back anytime the first stringer throws an incompletion.  They're position is safe (warm and fuzzy) as long as the second stringer stays on the bench...they can continue to scream and bitch with impunity, feeling superior in their fantasy decision making prowess.  It's only when the second stringer comes trotting in and promptly throws a pick 6 that the goEAW'er is in jeopardy of looking a fool.

good one, fuktard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 12, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
This board reminds me of the idiots that scream for the second string quarter back anytime the first stringer throws an incompletion.  They're position is safe (warm and fuzzy) as long as the second stringer stays on the bench...they can continue to scream and bitch with impunity, feeling superior in their fantasy decision making prowess.  It's only when the second stringer comes trotting in and promptly throws a pick 6 that the goEAW'er is in jeopardy of looking a fool.

Who are the quarterbacks in this analogy?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: doom on April 12, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

theus

Weren't you the guy who wanted rick majerus?

for like an hour 5 years ago. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 03:55:25 PM
steve dave not acknowledging how I trashed him for not going to games.  makes me nervous.   :bait:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 12, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: doom on April 12, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 12, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on April 12, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
So it sounds like some peeps want Frank gone if we can get Pearl.

But what if Frank goes and we can't get Pearl  :dunno: That is what I am most terrified of.

theus
Weren't you the guy who wanted rick majerus?

for like an hour 5 years ago. Sheesh.

I thought Rick Majerus was better than he really is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.





It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on April 12, 2011, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: Fuktard on April 12, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
This board reminds me of the idiots that scream for the second string quarter back anytime the first stringer throws an incompletion.  They're position is safe (warm and fuzzy) as long as the second stringer stays on the bench...they can continue to scream and bitch with impunity, feeling superior in their fantasy decision making prowess.  It's only when the second stringer comes trotting in and promptly throws a pick 6 that the goEAW'er is in jeopardy of looking a fool.

good one, fuktard.

Lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.





It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.

frank's butthurt is enough, beems, we don't need yours as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.






It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.
You are such an obsessed little bitch. I hope you get as cancer or some crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 12, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Gooch on April 12, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.






It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.
You are such an obsessed little bitch. I hope you get as cancer or some cac.



Mission accomplished.  I hope you busted a few capillaries in the process.


 :woot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 12, 2011, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gooch on April 12, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.






It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.
You are such an obsessed little bitch. I hope you get as cancer or some cac.


 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
i feel really bad for princeton.  bad enough to lose their alum-hero coach to fairfield of all ridiculous things, but then to top it off the evil empire's dukie mcmichiganman coach turns down south beach & the acc to for the love of crimson.  my god.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 04:37:19 PM
You can actually hearing Ben, all the way from Oregon, screaming for validation.  "PLEASE NOTICE ME!!!!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 12, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
i feel really bad for princeton.  bad enough to lose their alum-hero coach to fairfield of all ridiculous things, but then to top it off the evil empire's dukie mcmichiganman coach turns down south beach & the acc to for the love of crimson.  my god.

i just can't really relate to that.  i wish i would have studied more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:

Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

AP writer is now on with BITB.  Is this live or taped?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:

Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

AP writer is now on with BITB.  Is this live or taped?

Not sure, but it's pretty entertaining. AP writer just called Frank insecure. (butthurt imo)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 12, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
The collective inferiority complex of powerespect Nation is rubbing off on Frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 05:16:19 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Best is Frank staying . . . just recruit a little better Frank, and win . . . and cheat . . . and win .  .  . a lot.





It's K-State.  The best you guys will ever do is beat KU every once in a while and finish 4th in the Big 12.

STOP FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE AND GET SOME SLEEP.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
Ben calling people insecure is absolutely hilarious.  You spend 99% of your time on this board seeking validation.  It's not even sad anymore, it's rough ridin' tragic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

very good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:36:27 PM
If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:

Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

AP writer is now on with BITB.  Is this live or taped?

Not sure, but it's pretty entertaining. AP writer just called Frank insecure. (butthurt imo)

If Frank were handling himself as a player, he'd say he had an eye hernia or just needed some time to rest and figure things out. I think the writer has a pretty good handle on Frank, not being "wanted" at Miami and not having Currie immediately rework his contract hurt him, whether it should have or not. He just needs Miami to hire someone and get over it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 12, 2011, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 12, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
The collective inferiority complex of powerespect Nation is rubbing off on Frank. 

Says the douche that comes on other teams boards to talk crap and attempt to boost his own self esteem.  Sad existence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:

Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

AP writer is now on with BITB.  Is this live or taped?

Not sure, but it's pretty entertaining. AP writer just called Frank insecure. (butthurt imo)

If Frank were handling himself as a player, he'd say he had an eye hernia or just needed some time to rest and figure things out. I think the writer has a pretty good handle on Frank, not being "wanted" at Miami and not having Currie immediately rework his contract hurt him, whether it should have or not. He just needs Miami to hire someone and get over it.


if only frank had jake there to protect him the way he protected jake from the media.  

Doug Tucker: so, umm, you've done some good things, but currie still hates you.  how does that make you feel?

Jake:  Is that what you wanted? To make Frank cry?  Nice question.

Frank:  I just want to be loved, ya know?  I'm a competitor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Can they open up BSFS tonight for a rally so we can all let Frank know how much we don't want him to take the Miami job? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 12, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
BITB saying he talked to Frank . . . BITB says that Frank indicated that by and large things were good at K-State.

So  :ck:

Of course things are good.  He's making over $1 million a year.  He has fantastic support from the KSU fans.  He has no desire to leave for Miami unless they offer him at least half of his current salary.

AP writer is now on with BITB.  Is this live or taped?

Not sure, but it's pretty entertaining. AP writer just called Frank insecure. (butthurt imo)

If Frank were handling himself as a player, he'd say he had an eye hernia or just needed some time to rest and figure things out. I think the writer has a pretty good handle on Frank, not being "wanted" at Miami and not having Currie immediately rework his contract hurt him, whether it should have or not. He just needs Miami to hire someone and get over it.


if only frank had jake there to protect him the way he protected jake from the media.  

Doug Tucker: so, umm, you've done some good things, but currie still hates you.  how does that make you feel?

Jake:  Is that what you wanted? To make Frank cry?  Nice question.

Frank:  I just want to be loved, ya know?  I'm a competitor.

Sort of, but I think he went to Tucker to vent as much as anything.

"Doug, it's Miami basketball. Why am I not first on their list? Miami?!?! It has to be my salary, maybe I make too much. 1.5 mil looks like a lot, if they knew I only made 1.1 I would have gotten a call. That has to be it. They would have at least given me a call."

Now, what he would have done with it, who knows. Maybe he really wanted it, maybe he wanted more from K-State, or maybe just more validation. But in any case he wanted his ego stroked a little like most big coaches and he didn't get it, he just needs to move on now.

Plus it's not like he hasn't just called random guys in the past, Kent Babb being a great example. He just called someone different to vent, much like he did with the Babb story.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 12, 2011, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Can they open up BSFS tonight for a rally so we can all let Frank know how much we don't want him to take the Miami job? 

I worked out well for ku...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 12, 2011, 06:14:17 PM
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE SEND MIAMI A COPY OF FRANKS CONTRACT!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 12, 2011, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Can they open up BSFS tonight for a rally so we can all let Frank know how much we don't want him to take the Miami job?  

I worked out well for ku...

Totally different deal.  Carolina actually wanted Roy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 12, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 12, 2011, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Can they open up BSFS tonight for a rally so we can all let Frank know how much we don't want him to take the Miami job?  

I worked out well for ku...

Totally different deal.  Carolina actually wanted Roy.

True.  Probably the most fans Memorial Stadium has ever held.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
At this point, I want to know how Frank feels about his statements. If he admitted he handled it poorly, I'd get over it. But I feel like he did something more along the lines of walking up to Currie and saying "DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE MY CONTRACT!! TELL ME I'M A GOOD COACH!! TELL ME!!!!!!" and denied that he did anything wrong.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 07:27:14 PM
Love how frank tried to use the local media, manbeck (who I really like), etc. To write pieces with quotes from shakey or whatever saying frank isn't leaving and then used a full fledged national media attack (Rome, ap writer guy) to get the whole frank to Miami should happen ball rolling. For anybody that questions that he might be new to this and doesn't know what he's doing with the media or quotes were taken out of context then wow, just wow. Using the media might be what frank is best at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 12, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 07:27:14 PM
Love how frank tried to use the local media, manbeck (who I really like), etc. To write pieces with quotes from shakey or whatever saying frank isn't leaving and then used a full fledged national media attack (Rome, ap writer guy) to get the whole frank to Miami should happen ball rolling. For anybody that questions that he might be new to this and doesn't know what he's doing with the media or quotes were taken out of context then wow, just wow. Using the media might be what frank is best at.

Yeah, he's very good.  Very slick.  Something we're not at all accustomed to seeing. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 12, 2011, 07:57:47 PM
Did I miss the part in this thread that we talked about the elephant in the room?  Ya know, the part about how Frank just made his already marginal recruiting even harder.  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 08:10:24 PM
True.  It's pretty bad when a recruit wants to wait to sign until he figures out where Frank will be coaching next season.  Nice work bad person.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
Ben calling people insecure is absolutely hilarious.  You spend 99% of your time on this board seeking validation.  It's not even sad anymore, it's effing tragic.

He fights fire with fire!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 12, 2011, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:36:27 PM
If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.





no crap, could not believe him yesterday.  hilarious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.

well it's a rough ridin' repost anyway
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.

well it's a rough ridin' repost anyway

Didn't feel like combing through the whole thread after a 10 hour work day  :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 12, 2011, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.

well it's a effing repost anyway

Didn't feel like combing through the whole thread after a 10 hour work day  :curse:

Well other people don't feel like reading your old news.   :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2011, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.

well it's a rough ridin' repost anyway

Didn't feel like combing through the whole thread after a 10 hour work day  :curse:
BBS at work then  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2011, 08:32:04 PM
10 hour work day?  Most rich as Gates emaw fans don't work that many hours in a month.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 12, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Miami hired an AD:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6337234

Don't care if repost.

well it's a rough ridin' repost anyway

Didn't feel like combing through the whole thread after a 10 hour work day  :curse:
can't blame you pike, this thread is a cesspool
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
I bet Pike drives a kia to work every day.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
I bet Pike drives a kia to work every day.

I drive a truck god damn it  :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SleepFighter on April 12, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: pike on April 12, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 12, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
I bet Pike drives a kia to work every day.

I drive a truck god damn it  :chainsaw:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kia-world.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fkia_kcv4_mojave_11.jpg&hash=1e02a258e2ff737d2843eb3bc8bb4fbd84daf6a7)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 07:27:14 PM
Love how frank tried to use the local media, manbeck (who I really like), etc. To write pieces with quotes from shakey or whatever saying frank isn't leaving and then used a full fledged national media attack (Rome, ap writer guy) to get the whole frank to Miami should happen ball rolling. For anybody that questions that he might be new to this and doesn't know what he's doing with the media or quotes were taken out of context then wow, just wow. Using the media might be what frank is best at.

No doubt he's good at it and this is about Frank getting attention from Miami, but I don't think its just 100% he wants to go to Miami. I don't equate the AP story to the Brando interview and the early Meek and Cassidy pieces. At that point Frank had complete control. He orchestrated/agreed to the specific interview with Brando and got the quotes out there he wanted. He knew people would call Shakey/Art, he didn't orchestrate those completely, but he knew what they would say. And at that point he probably thought the Miami call was imminent, it just didn't come. Like I said, I'm not going to say 100% that he definitely wants to go there or not, that's still unclear to me, but no doubt he at least wants the call. I think when Miami started looking seriously at Amaker (!), then it got real to Frank. So then Tucker calls or he calls Tucker and a new twist is added to the whole thing.

I think Frank is trying to control the information out of his side of things as best he can, just much different from how Anderson and many others do things. But in Frank's case he isn't getting the type of attention he likely wanted and he is seeing these guys he no doubt thinks he's much better than getting paid $2 mil a year without some sort of yearly increase or large base of incentives and his ego is hurt.

Either way, with an offer from Miami Frank would've looked great. He's either going home to rebuild a bad program or he's staying at the program that gave him a chance. More Frank love from the media. But now he's sitting there seeing Miami go after this list: UAB’s Mike Davis, Auburn’s Tony Barbee, Murray State’s Billy Kennedy, Harvard’s Tommy Amaker, Richmond’s Chris Mooney, as well as former Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel and former Arkansas coach John Pelphrey. I really can't blame Frank for wondering what the heck is going on here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 12, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 12, 2011, 07:27:14 PM
Love how frank tried to use the local media, manbeck (who I really like), etc. To write pieces with quotes from shakey or whatever saying frank isn't leaving and then used a full fledged national media attack (Rome, ap writer guy) to get the whole frank to Miami should happen ball rolling. For anybody that questions that he might be new to this and doesn't know what he's doing with the media or quotes were taken out of context then wow, just wow. Using the media might be what frank is best at.

No doubt he's good at it and this is about Frank getting attention from Miami, but I don't think its just 100% he wants to go to Miami. I don't equate the AP story to the Brando interview and the early Meek and Cassidy pieces. At that point Frank had complete control. He orchestrated/agreed to the specific interview with Brando and got the quotes out there he wanted. He knew people would call Shakey/Art, he didn't orchestrate those completely, but he knew what they would say. And at that point he probably thought the Miami call was imminent, it just didn't come. Like I said, I'm not going to say 100% that he definitely wants to go there or not, that's still unclear to me, but no doubt he at least wants the call. I think when Miami started looking seriously at Amaker (!), then it got real to Frank. So then Tucker calls or he calls Tucker and a new twist is added to the whole thing.

I think Frank is trying to control the information out of his side of things as best he can, just much different from how Anderson and many others do things. But in Frank's case he isn't getting the type of attention he likely wanted and he is seeing these guys he no doubt thinks he's much better than getting paid $2 mil a year without some sort of yearly increase or large base of incentives and his ego is hurt.

Either way, with an offer from Miami Frank would've looked great. He's either going home to rebuild a bad program or he's staying at the program that gave him a chance. More Frank love from the media. But now he's sitting there seeing Miami go after this list: UAB’s Mike Davis, Auburn’s Tony Barbee, Murray State’s Billy Kennedy, Harvard’s Tommy Amaker, Richmond’s Chris Mooney, as well as former Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel and former Arkansas coach John Pelphrey. I really can't blame Frank for wondering what the heck is going on here.

Interesting take, hadn't really thought of it like that.  You're right too. Franks got to be wondering how he doesn't even get a look.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2011, 09:22:26 PM
Maybe just maybe this works out in our favor. Frank doesnt get the Miami job since he is perceived to be a hot head who abuses his players(only good thing Energy was for). The chip on his shoulder grows exponentially and he rededicates himself to recruiting and winning enough games to make Miami look foolish for passing on him for his perceived faults?   :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 12, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Either way, with an offer from Miami Frank would've looked great. He's either going home to rebuild a bad program or he's staying at the program that gave him a chance. More Frank love from the media. But now he's sitting there seeing Miami go after this list: UAB’s Mike Davis, Auburn’s Tony Barbee, Murray State’s Billy Kennedy, Harvard’s Tommy Amaker, Richmond’s Chris Mooney, as well as former Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel and former Arkansas coach John Pelphrey. I really can't blame Frank for wondering what the heck is going on here.

I think Kitchen's piece may have pinpointed why they're going with that particular list.

It could be that the current Miami administration isn't really looking at hiring a guy with a controversial disposition and the New Times up his posse's ass.

This isn't going to change with the new AD.  If they wanted him and wanted to have a serious conversation by now, they would have had it.  Hell, they'd have announced him as the HC already, and he'd be picking out a nice home in a gated community somewhere.  This has to be coming down from Shalala and/or the big money at Miami, and not even Ginger McWhitebread is going to come in swinging for the fences to make a splash in his first week.  I'm sure he's had a conversation with the administration, and "No Frank Martin" has probably already been discussed.

That's why Frank's move doesn't seem calculated to me.  Maybe he's just venting to Tucker for the reasons you mentioned, but you HAVE to think that Katz has already called him and told him to STFU.  He's screwing things up with his current employer for a job he isn't going to even get a serious look at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 12, 2011, 09:24:30 PM
he's far too calculating to merely be pouting.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: ZmoneyKSU on April 12, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Interesting take, hadn't really thought of it like that.  You're right too. Franks got to be wondering how he doesn't even get a look.

Tommy Amaker!?!? I bet that alone had Frank steaming.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 12, 2011, 09:27:07 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: ZmoneyKSU on April 12, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Interesting take, hadn't really thought of it like that.  You're right too. Franks got to be wondering how he doesn't even get a look.

Tommy Amaker!?!? I bet that alone had Frank steaming.

That should have been the big, flashing "NO VACANCY" sign right in his face.

It's not happening there.  Period.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FHSU92 on April 12, 2011, 09:31:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 12, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Either way, with an offer from Miami Frank would've looked great. He's either going home to rebuild a bad program or he's staying at the program that gave him a chance. More Frank love from the media. But now he's sitting there seeing Miami go after this list: UAB’s Mike Davis, Auburn’s Tony Barbee, Murray State’s Billy Kennedy, Harvard’s Tommy Amaker, Richmond’s Chris Mooney, as well as former Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel and former Arkansas coach John Pelphrey. I really can't blame Frank for wondering what the heck is going on here.

I think Kitchen's piece may have pinpointed why they're going with that particular list.

It could be that the current Miami administration isn't really looking at hiring a guy with a controversial disposition and the New Times up his posse's ass.

This isn't going to change with the new AD.  If they wanted him and wanted to have a serious conversation by now, they would have had it.  Hell, they'd have announced him as the HC already, and he'd be picking out a nice home in a gated community somewhere.  This has to be coming down from Shalala and/or the big money at Miami, and not even Ginger McWhitebread is going to come in swinging for the fences to make a splash in his first week.  I'm sure he's had a conversation with the administration, and "No Frank Martin" has probably already been discussed.

That's why Frank's move doesn't seem calculated to me.  Maybe he's just venting to Tucker for the reasons you mentioned, but you HAVE to think that Katz has already called him and told him to STFU.  He's screwing things up with his current employer for a job he isn't going to even get a serious look at.

While not fair, the "hot head" pictures are the one's that make it in news media outside of MHK.  So, when any story about Frank gets out it always has him yelling, stompin, complainin', etc.  Doesn't paint a realistic 24/7 image.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 12, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 12, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
I really can't blame Frank for wondering what the heck is going on here.

But in your scenario Frank openly risks alienating his entire fan base by involving the media because he didn't get attention from a school he would have turned down with the world watching.

Thats pants-on-head Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on Frank's part. Seems well beyond a matter of just ego to risk that much for the satisfaction of turning down a job you don't really want. How much could that really do for your ego?

I'm not sure that jives well when so many people, before Frank's little diatribe, were saying Frank would kill his first born for the Miami job. He can't be a master at media manipulation and yet a colossal moron at the same time as some of the narratives spouted here seem to imply. Seems more like desperation than pure ego. He sees his chance fading away and makes a seemingly subtle (although not so much) attempt at changing Miami's perspective on hiring him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
I'll bring it up again.  This has to be the reason that Kirby Hocutt bailed on Miami.  He most likely had Jon Gruden signed, sealed, and delivered and then some higher up said: "wait a second, he left the Raiders under odd circumstances."

If Jon Gruden is too dirty for Miami, then Frank has absolutely zero chance.

Hocutt hired the squeaky clean Temple coach and then got the hell out of there as soon as he could. He understood that his potential was severely limited there.  And what was the first thing he did at Texas Tech?  Hire Billy Gillespie.  A home run.  Think that could have happened at Miami?

Frank needs to get over his butt hurt and make this his home.  We give second chances at Kansas State.  Miami does not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.


Cause they ran off their AD from K-State who wanted to hire Jon freaking Super Bowl Champion Gruden and made him take a loser from Temple instead.  The joke is on Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 12, 2011, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.


Cause they ran off their AD from K-State who wanted to hire Jon freaking Super Bowl Champion Gruden and made him take a loser from Temple instead.  The joke is on Miami.

It's like the group that wanted to run Jimmy Johnson out of town came back to finish the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gokatgo on April 12, 2011, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

I'm gonna go with this one...probably bullshit, but makes me feel warm inside
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 12, 2011, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: gokatgo on April 12, 2011, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

I'm gonna go with this one...probably bullshit, but makes me feel warm inside

yeah, that's the only moderately plausible feelgood explaino i've seen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Whale on April 12, 2011, 10:45:32 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 12, 2011, 02:19:32 PM
steve henson, next ksu cat head coach.  someone that k-staters can be PROUD of, he's one of us.

man, oh man.  going to be fantastic watching hensies (who wants to be here) clownsuit huggsies in the 'ta. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 11:46:27 PM
Instead of "Miami doesn't care about winning" that should be something like "Miami doesn't care about hard working guys like us.  They want Ivy League types."

I think this theory has merit. Those coaches don't funnel players to Frank without hoping for something in return.  It's much easier for him to provide tickets/connections/access/jobs and whatever else they desire if he is at Miami rather than K-State.  If it looks to them like he will stay in Kansas forever what good is he to them?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 11:46:27 PM
Instead of "Miami doesn't care about winning" that should be something like "Miami doesn't care about hard working guys like us.  They want Ivy League types."

I think this theory has merit. Those coaches don't funnel players to Frank without hoping for something in return.  It's much easier for him to provide tickets/connections/access/jobs and whatever else they desire if he is at Miami rather than K-State.  If it looks to them like he will stay in Kansas forever what good is he to them?
:bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 13, 2011, 01:15:27 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:21:56 AM
Is it time for the Krause Doctorine??:
Former K-State AD slurs in, "Get me a napkin, a pen, and a scotch"
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.49abcnews.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2009%2F01%2F27%2FKrauseBob_08_t300.JPG%3F8aff03de2423e912a2467e97388a07f5331c05b6&hash=1979a21a8569d03839676e3833ef7662b2491ef9)

best
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 13, 2011, 02:04:37 AM
Again, the fact that Miami doesn't even want a whiff of Frank's nut sack says all you need to know about the perception of Frank and K-State.  You are a poor man's NC State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 02:20:17 AM
Yep, a shitty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 13, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 02:20:17 AM
Yep, a cacty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?



Yeah, it took tons of coaching to tell Jake Pullen to shoot lights out from three-point range and go for 38 points.  You were preseason #3 in the country.  You were supposed to win the Big 12.  K-State finished with 10+ losses and 4th in the Big 12.  That's effing pathetic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 03:01:34 AM
Weird that he scares you so much then.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 13, 2011, 05:49:19 AM
He feels slighted, which he hates more than anything
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 13, 2011, 06:00:25 AM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 13, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 02:20:17 AM
Yep, a cacty high school coach that no one else wants.  That whooped KU's ass last season.  How do those nuts taste, Ben?



Yeah, it took tons of coaching to tell Jake Pullen to shoot lights out from three-point range and go for 38 points.  You were preseason #3 in the country.  You were supposed to win the Big 12.  K-State finished with 10+ losses and 4th in the Big 12.  That's effing pathetic.

Quote from: felix rex on March 27, 2011, 09:25:15 PM
If having a high BB IQ means getting called for all sorts of fouls early, getting beat early, yelling at the refs, telling your players to beat people up on defense, getting a T when the refs stop giving you the game, hitting a ridiculous amount of piss poor shots, and still almost losing, then have fun with that style of play.

His team should be ashamed ASHAMED! of how they got that game, but probably not.  They used what they could, including playing the refs and playing the contact and playing the "good, small, classy vs big meany" card to brutal execution against our bigs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 06:26:03 AM
i admit that while this is an impressive list of rationalizations and alternative explanations, maybe people should just stop being so butthurt and acknowledge that frank not only wants to go to miami but is lobbying to do so.  so what if he is?  bfd.

then again, maybe people should also quit getting sucked into sissy fights with bmw.  and we know that won't happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:16:25 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 12, 2011, 09:24:30 PM
he's far too calculating to merely be pouting.  

no, he's genuinely butthurt.  everyone can keep trying to find some hidden meaning in it but ultimately he's throwing a tantrum in an effort to get more money and ruining any shred of bargaining power he may have had.  i am going to enjoy the crap out of the inevitable local media interview he grants to say how it was a big misunderstanding and he loves k-state and he was taken out of context, etc.  i will then begin working on the pay frank 2011 campaign that katz will have reached out to goEMAW to lead since his client and himself have proven to be bumbling retards at trying to orchestrate one.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 13, 2011, 07:22:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:16:25 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 12, 2011, 09:24:30 PM
he's far too calculating to merely be pouting. 

no, he's genuinely butthurt.  everyone can keep trying to find some hidden meaning in it but ultimately he's throwing a tantrum in an effort to get more money and ruining any shred of bargaining power he may have had.  i am going to enjoy the crap out of the inevitable local media interview he grants to say how it was a big misunderstanding and he loves k-state and he was taken out of context, etc.  i will then begin working on the pay frank 2011 campaign that katz will have reached out to goEMAW to lead since his client and himself have proven to be bumbling retards at trying to orchestrate one. 

I've been lifting a lot and have gotten pretty huge.  I'm going to order a bigger PAY FRANK shirt.  An offshoot of PAY FRANK is PAY _FAN.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 07:27:23 AM
Quote
NorthstarBball Alex Schwartz
Can't really go into much detail...but don't expect new Miami AD Shawn Eichorst to pursue Frank Martin. Martin-to-UM talk must cease.
8 hours ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:36:27 PM
If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.





I had to unfollow him a couple weeks back. As enjoyable as his post-ku loss meltdowns are, his nonstop desire to spin anything about KSU/MU in a negative light reeks of small-man syndrome. I couldn't take it any more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:44:56 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2011, 05:36:27 PM
If anyone followed Bob Fescoe last night on Twitter, you saw the pinnacle of low self esteem/constant need for validation in Bandwagonville in all its glory.





I had to unfollow him a couple weeks back. As enjoyable as his post-ku loss meltdowns are, his nonstop desire to spin anything about KSU/MU in a negative light reeks of small-man syndrome. I couldn't take it any more.

that's WHY he's a great follow. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 07:46:40 AM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Louisville assistant Tim Fuller is headed to Missouri, sources told FOXSports.com. He is extremely close with Missouri coach Frank Haith.

Isn't this guy the one they credit a lot of their high end recruiting to?   Isn't he the one who was on Angel?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

unfortunately for frank, currie doesn't seem to be as gullible
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

I hate when people use this phrase. I always get confused. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 08:05:40 AM
Quote from: OregonHawk on April 13, 2011, 02:04:37 AM
Again, the fact that Miami doesn't even want a whiff of Frank's nut sack says all you need to know about the perception of Frank and K-State.  You are a poor man's NC State.

While your opinion may be viewed as true in some circles, I highly doubt UNC and Duke fans spend as much time on the NC State Boards as their own because they really do view them as being pretty much an afterthought.
One would think that if this theory about KSU is true, we wouldn't have KU fans like yourself setting up camp on our site.

But here you are.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

unfortunately for frank, currie doesn't seem to be as gullible

false dilemma.  currie could both believe that and know that miami doesn't want frank.  and that's assuming that currie cares to keep him.

there's really an awful lot of dream job smoke.  if frank's good enough to plant all of it, why would he then go and make a major eff up?  additionally, frank has turned down offers of more money before.  why do that if he's out for every dime?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 13, 2011, 08:33:07 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

I hate when people use this phrase. I always get confused. :frown:

Use this handy guide:  Former :lynchmob: Latter
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:34:59 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

unfortunately for frank, currie doesn't seem to be as gullible

false dilemma.  currie could both believe that and know that miami doesn't want frank.  and that's assuming that currie cares to keep him.

there's really an awful lot of dream job smoke.  if frank's good enough to plant all of it, why would he then go and make a major eff up?  additionally, frank has turned down offers of more money before.  why do that if he's out for every dime?

because he didn't know how to handle the situation.  there was a lot of planted info out there the last round of contract negotiations and it was done much better because there were actual offers.  it sucks, because i like frank.  i don't believe he's out for max money, i believe he's out for max k-state money.  unfortunately, the way he handled the opening and miami's laughing in his face he's not going to get max ksu money.  he should have really waited for another legitimate offer of more money to come out before he blew his load all over the media.  would have held a lot more water in contract talks.  now john currie gets to smile from across the table at him and shake his head.  i hate to think about that but it's the position frank has put himself in.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

unfortunately for frank, currie doesn't seem to be as gullible

false dilemma.  currie could both believe that and know that miami doesn't want frank.  and that's assuming that currie cares to keep him.

there's really an awful lot of dream job smoke.  if frank's good enough to plant all of it, why would he then go and make a major eff up?  additionally, frank has turned down offers of more money before.  why do that if he's out for every dime?

He didn't want to coach at DePaul (no one does), and last year's Oregon search showed no one wants to coach there either.  He can talk about challenges, but the truth is that everyone wants to make the same amount (or more) at an easier job where they're more comfortable.  And he's comfortable here; he already has things moving in the right direction.

I'm personally of the belief that Frank may be interested in other positions, but his family is happy where they are.  I'm thinking that as long as it's tolerable here, and he feels that he's fairly compensated, he will actually stay for a pretty long time (unless a really good job like Florida opens). There's no reason to take a lateral move to another BCS school unless he feels like he's been really, really wronged.

And I think, right now, he feels wronged because Anderson and Kruger are making WAY more than they should, and Currie is playing tight with the money (while his predecessors did not do that).  That's probably exacerbating an already strained relationship, which caused an exponential increase in butthurt.

I'm in the _FAN/sd camp that says Frank's feeling a lot of butthurt right now because Miami hasn't showed on shred of real interest in him, and KSU isn't interested in paying him "market value".  As of right now, I think our coaching situation is pretty stable, but going into next year, I think there's a pretty good chance that Frank will remember all of this butthurt and seriously consider other offers (if they come).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:40:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
but going into next year, I think there's a pretty good chance that Frank will remember all of this butthurt and seriously consider other offers (if they come).

frank is freaking out about contract talks now because he knows we may have a down year next season.  no offers and fewer wins makes for a happy john currie (in the short term).  hopefully frank out performs our talent and gets more money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:40:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
but going into next year, I think there's a pretty good chance that Frank will remember all of this butthurt and seriously consider other offers (if they come).

frank is freaking out about contract talks now because he knows we may have a down year next season.  no offers and fewer wins makes for a happy john currie (in the short term).  hopefully frank out performs our talent and gets more money.

We're going to hear some weird twitter leaks about Frank being connected to some WTF jobs next year to try and figure out how to get another extension/raise.

If we do have a down year, Frank is here for two more years, or until he rights the ship.  But after that, once he has a good year, assuming Currie is still here, I think he bails because he feels so wronged.

But, by then, Pearl won't have a show clause and will probably be ready to step off of the party boat and back into college basketball to clear his good name, so it's all good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:45:58 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:40:46 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
but going into next year, I think there's a pretty good chance that Frank will remember all of this butthurt and seriously consider other offers (if they come).

frank is freaking out about contract talks now because he knows we may have a down year next season.  no offers and fewer wins makes for a happy john currie (in the short term).  hopefully frank out performs our talent and gets more money.

We're going to hear some weird twitter leaks about Frank being connected to some WTF jobs next year to try and figure out how to get another extension/raise.

If we do have a down year, Frank is here for two more years, or until he rights the ship.  But after that, once he has a good year, assuming Currie is still here, I think he bails because he feels so wronged.

But, by then, Pearl won't have a show clause and will probably be ready to step off of the party boat and back into college basketball to clear his good name, so it's all good.

I'm really not concerned about any of that
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
if the story of frank's agenda is going home to miami vs. getting every dime he can, i believe the former. 

unfortunately for frank, currie doesn't seem to be as gullible

false dilemma.  currie could both believe that and know that miami doesn't want frank.  and that's assuming that currie cares to keep him.

there's really an awful lot of dream job smoke.  if frank's good enough to plant all of it, why would he then go and make a major eff up?  additionally, frank has turned down offers of more money before.  why do that if he's out for every dime?

He didn't want to coach at DePaul (no one does), and last year's Oregon search showed no one wants to coach there either.  He can talk about challenges, but the truth is that everyone wants to make the same amount (or more) at an easier job where they're more comfortable.  And he's comfortable here; he already has things moving in the right direction.

I'm personally of the belief that Frank may be interested in other positions, but his family is happy where they are.  I'm thinking that as long as it's tolerable here, and he feels that he's fairly compensated, he will actually stay for a pretty long time (unless a really good job like Florida opens). There's no reason to take a lateral move to another BCS school unless he feels like he's been really, really wronged.

And I think, right now, he feels wronged because Anderson and Kruger are making WAY more than they should, and Currie is playing tight with the money (while his predecessors did not do that).  That's probably exacerbating an already strained relationship, which caused an exponential increase in butthurt.

I'm in the _FAN/sd camp that says Frank's feeling a lot of butthurt right now because Miami hasn't showed on shred of real interest in him, and KSU isn't interested in paying him "market value".  As of right now, I think our coaching situation is pretty stable, but going into next year, I think there's a pretty good chance that Frank will remember all of this butthurt and seriously consider other offers (if they come).

I love Frank, but he has consistently shown that he has a big ego. I'm good with that, almost all successful coaches do, its part of the deal. I do think Frank is just pretty unique in how he handles his ego and I think Tucker was accurate when he said Frank was "insecure". I think him making an unusual call to Babb in early February when things looked bleak shows this, as did the sort of weird interviews with Brando and Tucker. There is no doubt he wanted to get his information out there in some capacity, but I think it changed from the Brando interview to the Tucker interview. Its possible if Miami gave him an offer he couldn't refuse that he would go there, but I don't think that is happening (and I don't think it ever was) but Frank still at least wanted the opportunity to say no. And as it become clear to him it wasn't going to happen in typical Frank fashion he got a bit paranoid as to why it didn't, and I think that contributed to the comments to Tucker much more than any desire to really go to Miami. In part Miami not reaching out to him b/c of his persona and his past in Miami only confirmed complaints some K-State fans had and what the media said when he was hired. I'm sure he thought he was past that, but its clear he is not, at least in Miami.

My opinion on this is just based on how Frank has handled things in the past and was only confirmed by listening to BITB interview Tucker yesterday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:56:46 AM
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I think him making an unusual call to Babb in early February

frank knew babb was working on a piece that was going to shed him in bad light and that is why he called him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:56:46 AM
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I think him making an unusual call to Babb in early February

frank knew babb was working on a piece that was going to shed him in bad light and that is why he called him

Yeah, because he's crazy paranoid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Bottom line, the whole thing makes Frank look like a complete fool regardless...shows that all his talk about life and choices is nothing more than a bunch of bullshit. He talks about honesty and integration but then talks out of both sides of his mouth, feels hurt yet doesn't want to hurt what made him...eff it, I'd have alot more respect for him if he'd just come out and tell the truth. He used kstate as a stepping stone, he can talk all the BS he would like, but its no different than prince. Prince failed, Frank succeeded. Frank doesn't give a rats ass about kstate, he only cares about himself, and to be honest there isn't anything wrong with that, but like I said, I'd have more respect for him if he'd just say it so we can send him packing and find someone who really does want to be here. Although Snyder has sorta ran his course, and the times have caught up with him, I do thiink the guy actually cared about kstate, and I know people will say that if he cared he'd get the eff out...that is true but honestly that time is coming real soon and im at least willing to see what this years team does before going nuts...at least were not a pre season #3 projected to win the big 12 favorite only to dic flop our way into the dance on the back of jake in football, Frank wont have Jake, and he knows his smoke and mirrors in the big 12 are about to come to a end so, I for one do not want anyone who doesn't want to be here...good luck...please leave
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 09:03:13 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Bottom line, the whole thing makes Frank look like a complete fool regardless...shows that all his talk about life and choices is nothing more than a bunch of bullshit. He talks about honesty and integration but then talks out of both sides of his mouth, feels hurt yet doesn't want to hurt what made him...eff it, I'd have alot more respect for him if he'd just come out and tell the truth. He used kstate as a stepping stone, he can talk all the BS he would like, but its no different than prince. Prince failed, Frank succeeded. Frank doesn't give a rats ass about kstate, he only cares about himself, and to be honest there isn't anything wrong with that, but like I said, I'd have more respect for him if he'd just say it so we can send him packing and find someone who really does want to be here. Although Snyder has sorta ran his course, and the times have caught up with him, I do thiink the guy actually cared about kstate, and I know people will say that if he cared he'd get the eff out...that is true but honestly that time is coming real soon and im at least willing to see what this years team does before going nuts...at least were not a pre season #3 projected to win the big 12 favorite only to dic flop our way into the dance on the back of jake in football, Frank wont have Jake, and he knows his smoke and mirrors in the big 12 are about to come to a end so, I for one do not want anyone who doesn't want to be here...good luck...please leave

 :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:56:46 AM
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I think him making an unusual call to Babb in early February

frank knew babb was working on a piece that was going to shed him in bad light and that is why he called him

Yeah, because he's crazy paranoid.

Babb brought this up after the "what a joke" blow up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2011, 09:06:11 AM
i'm completely on board with the thought that Frank is doing all of this as a recruiting tool, like someone said earlier in this thread.


either way, IDGAF.  Frank's not going to Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 09:06:20 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Bottom line, the whole thing makes Frank look like a complete fool regardless...shows that all his talk about life and choices is nothing more than a bunch of bullshit. He talks about honesty and integration but then talks out of both sides of his mouth, feels hurt yet doesn't want to hurt what made him...eff it, I'd have alot more respect for him if he'd just come out and tell the truth. He used kstate as a stepping stone, he can talk all the BS he would like, but its no different than prince. Prince failed, Frank succeeded. Frank doesn't give a rats ass about kstate, he only cares about himself, and to be honest there isn't anything wrong with that, but like I said, I'd have more respect for him if he'd just say it so we can send him packing and find someone who really does want to be here. Although Snyder has sorta ran his course, and the times have caught up with him, I do thiink the guy actually cared about kstate, and I know people will say that if he cared he'd get the eff out...that is true but honestly that time is coming real soon and im at least willing to see what this years team does before going nuts...at least were not a pre season #3 projected to win the big 12 favorite only to dic flop our way into the dance on the back of jake in football, Frank wont have Jake, and he knows his smoke and mirrors in the big 12 are about to come to a end so, I for one do not want anyone who doesn't want to be here...good luck...please leave

This is rough ridin' stupid. No coach really cares about K-State. KSU will always be a stepping stone job and should always prepare for it. At the same time, coaches should never say they look at KSU as a stepping stone (even if they do).  If you were dumb enough to think that KSU was Frank's dream job and that he wanted to be here for ever and was always 100% honest every time he dealt with the media before this week I don't even know where to start. I mean seriously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Bottom line, the whole thing makes Frank look like a complete fool regardless...shows that all his talk about life and choices is nothing more than a bunch of bullcac. He talks about honesty and integration but then talks out of both sides of his mouth, feels hurt yet doesn't want to hurt what made him...eff it, I'd have alot more respect for him if he'd just come out and tell the truth. He used kstate as a stepping stone, he can talk all the BS he would like, but its no different than prince. Prince failed, Frank succeeded. Frank doesn't give a rats ass about kstate, he only cares about himself, and to be honest there isn't anything wrong with that, but like I said, I'd have more respect for him if he'd just say it so we can send him packing and find someone who really does want to be here. Although Snyder has sorta ran his course, and the times have caught up with him, I do thiink the guy actually cared about kstate, and I know people will say that if he cared he'd get the eff out...that is true but honestly that time is coming real soon and im at least willing to see what this years team does before going nuts...at least were not a pre season #3 projected to win the big 12 favorite only to dic flop our way into the dance on the back of jake in football, Frank wont have Jake, and he knows his smoke and mirrors in the big 12 are about to come to a end so, I for one do not want anyone who doesn't want to be here...good luck...please leave

I can understand (a little) being upset at how Frank handled it. It wasn't his best moment.

But wanting him out because of it is just silly. 95% of coaches are going to do the same thing at K-State and when you have a good one that does it you want him to stay as long as possible. The "I want someone that wants to be here" line leads to programs led by Jim Wooldridge. But if Jim would've won decently, he would've likely been out of here too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
I'll bring it up again.  This has to be the reason that Kirby Hocutt bailed on Miami.  He most likely had Jon Gruden signed, sealed, and delivered and then some higher up said: "wait a second, he left the Raiders under odd circumstances."

If Jon Gruden is too dirty for Miami, then Frank has absolutely zero chance.

Hocutt hired the squeaky clean Temple coach and then got the hell out of there as soon as he could. He understood that his potential was severely limited there.  And what was the first thing he did at Texas Tech?  Hire Billy Gillespie.  A home run.  Think that could have happened at Miami?

Frank needs to get over his butt hurt and make this his home.  We give second chances at Kansas State.  Miami does not.

Pretty right on.  Putting the Hocutt hiring of BCG shortly after arriving in Lubbock in perspective.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
LHC Bill Snyder hates K-State and wishes it was dead.  He's the most selfish POS that has ever walked the Manhattan streets.  If he wins football games I'm good with it though.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
John Currie laughs at the silliness thought up by Frank Martin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 13, 2011, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
If he wins football games I'm good with it though.  
Yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
LHC Bill Snyder hates K-State and wishes it was dead.  He's the most selfish POS that has ever walked the Manhattan streets.  If he wins football games I'm good with it though.  

Truth.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
Just saying, it made him look like a dumb ass...and like he was begging to get the eff out, which make kstate look like shipping as well, it could be perceived in many ways, but he hurts his cause by using the media simply because he comes across as a drama queen. eff that crap!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
Just saying, it made him look like a dumb ass...and like he was begging to get the eff out, which make kstate look like shipping as well, it could be perceived in many ways, but he hurts his cause by using the media simply because he comes across as a drama queen. eff that crap!

you're an idiot
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Call Tucker, apparently.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
Just saying, it made him look like a dumb ass...and like he was begging to get the eff out, which make kstate look like shipping as well, it could be perceived in many ways, but he hurts his cause by using the media simply because he comes across as a drama queen. eff that crap!
no one outside of k-state even has a clue what is happening or will remember it come November. Dumbass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 13, 2011, 09:41:13 AM
I have read through the past couple of pages of butthurt and cac and didn't see much on the new AD at UM.  I'm curious to see what peoples perception is on this new guy.  Is he going to come in and say "hey, no more search firm.  I'm going to make this hire.".  Don't you think he would want to make a home run hire (Frank or some other established coach) rather than limit himself to the firm?  Or, is he a "Yes" man.  Did he get the job because Shalala wants to run the show and he agreed to let her use the firm/pick the coach?  The reason I say that is becuase he has no AD experience (Correct me if I'm wrong) and is a relativly young so that makes sense on some level.  The same issues still apply (money, UM is football school/ small arena and so on), but I'm just wondering if this hire chages the direction UM is going.  Does this new AD come in and mix things up or just get his name associated to the firms hire?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: beefpac on April 13, 2011, 09:41:13 AM
I have read through the past couple of pages of butthurt and cac and didn't see much on the new AD at UM.  I'm curious to see what peoples perception is on this new guy.  Is he going to come in and say "hey, no more search firm.  I'm going to make this hire.".  Don't you think he would want to make a home run hire (Frank or some other established coach) rather than limit himself to the firm?  Or, is he a "Yes" man.  Did he get the job because Shalala wants to run the show and he agreed to let her use the firm/pick the coach?  The reason I say that is becuase he has no AD experience (Correct me if I'm wrong) and is a relativly young so that makes sense on some level.  The same issues still apply (money, UM is football school/ small arena and so on), but I'm just wondering if this hire chages the direction UM is going.  Does this new AD come in and mix things up or just get his name associated to the firms hire?

I think his hire makes Frank chances about the same. It went from 0% to 0%. He may indeed want to make his own hire, but I doubt it would be a guy he's seen Wisconsin handle twice in 4 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
Just saying, it made him look like a dumb ass...and like he was begging to get the eff out, which make kstate look like shipping as well, it could be perceived in many ways, but he hurts his cause by using the media simply because he comes across as a drama queen. eff that cac!
no one outside of k-state even has a clue what is happening or will remember it come November. Dumbass

And even if they did, they view us as a stepping stone anyway (i.e. Jim Rome).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 09:53:13 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: beefpac on April 13, 2011, 09:41:13 AM
I have read through the past couple of pages of butthurt and cac and didn't see much on the new AD at UM.  I'm curious to see what peoples perception is on this new guy.  Is he going to come in and say "hey, no more search firm.  I'm going to make this hire.".  Don't you think he would want to make a home run hire (Frank or some other established coach) rather than limit himself to the firm?  Or, is he a "Yes" man.  Did he get the job because Shalala wants to run the show and he agreed to let her use the firm/pick the coach?  The reason I say that is becuase he has no AD experience (Correct me if I'm wrong) and is a relativly young so that makes sense on some level.  The same issues still apply (money, UM is football school/ small arena and so on), but I'm just wondering if this hire chages the direction UM is going.  Does this new AD come in and mix things up or just get his name associated to the firms hire?

I think his hire makes Frank chances about the same. It went from 0% to 0%. He may indeed want to make his own hire, but I doubt it would be a guy he's seen Wisconsin handle twice in 4 years.

That and they've probably already outlined what they're looking for in a basketball coach should he choose to go outside of the firm.

They aren't targeting that particular murderer's row unless a strict set of criteria has been put forth (affordability, lack of controversy, clean image, etc.) by the upper administration (i.e. Shalala) and big money donors.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.

qft.  and the same could be said for ksu.  we have a coach that, if he were at another school, we couldn't afford and/or he woudn't want to come here.  both sides have it pretty good (yet are unsure how long it will last).  if frank pulls an emaw out of his hat next year and gets to the tourney, will be interesting to see how much more currie pays him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.

qft.  and the same could be said for ksu.  we have a coach that, if he were at another school, we couldn't afford and/or he woudn't want to come here.  both sides have it pretty good (yet are unsure how long it will last).  if frank pulls an emaw out of his hat next year and gets to the tourney, will be interesting to see how much more currie pays him.

Frank will have earned a pay hike if he makes the tourney next year. Will be one of his best coaching jobs to date.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
John Currie laughs at the silliness thought up by Frank Martin.
:flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.

qft.  and the same could be said for ksu.  we have a coach that, if he were at another school, we couldn't afford and/or he woudn't want to come here.  both sides have it pretty good (yet are unsure how long it will last).  if frank pulls an emaw out of his hat next year and gets to the tourney, will be interesting to see how much more currie pays him.

Frank will have earned a pay hike if he makes the tourney next year. Will be one of his best coaching jobs to date.

Frank put himself in that position.  If he doesn't make the tourn. it's his own fault.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 10:14:06 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.

qft.  and the same could be said for ksu.  we have a coach that, if he were at another school, we couldn't afford and/or he woudn't want to come here.  both sides have it pretty good (yet are unsure how long it will last).  if frank pulls an emaw out of his hat next year and gets to the tourney, will be interesting to see how much more currie pays him.

If Frank takes the team to the tournament next year Currie has to pony up; rework the deal and get Frank to $2 Mil. JMHO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
John Currie laughs at the silliness thought up by Frank Martin.
:flush:
butthurt?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 10:29:35 AM
how many coaches are good enough for a blueblood offer given that there are only a handful of bluebloods?  and uk hiring bcg makes a blueblood offering frank at least conceivable.  not sure why we're stroking ourselves off on that point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:32:30 AM
caneswatch Jorge Milian
Attention to Frank Martin: Eichorst says "everyone who has an interest (in UM job) will get consideration."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 10:14:06 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).

this is pretty true

I missed this one, but Rusty is spot on here.

qft.  and the same could be said for ksu.  we have a coach that, if he were at another school, we couldn't afford and/or he woudn't want to come here.  both sides have it pretty good (yet are unsure how long it will last).  if frank pulls an emaw out of his hat next year and gets to the tourney, will be interesting to see how much more currie pays him.

If Frank takes the team to the tournament next year Currie has to pony up; rework the deal and get Frank to $2 Mil. JMHO.

hypothetically speaking, if frank gets next year's team to a top 4 finish, what the hell does that say that, regardless of the talent on his roster or the competition, he's going to finish 3 or 4? kinda bad and good I suppose.  also, 1.8M is prolly the number.  it's frank's decision to make 'te 450K rather than te 250K.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
sgorten Steve Gorten
Frank Martin: new #UM AD says EVERYONE will be considered Whatever u do, just don't let Donald Trump write angry note on your behalf. #Leach


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 10:34:11 AM
UCONN will have an opening soon.  It will be interesting to see which member of the non-local media Frank calls to question their decision not to interview him.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 10:34:11 AM
UCONN will have an opening soon.  It will be interesting to see which member of the non-local media Frank calls to question their decision not to interview him.  

Gotta be Jim Rome
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
sgorten Steve Gorten
Frank Martin: new #UM AD says EVERYONE will be considered Whatever u do, just don't let Donald Trump write angry note on your behalf. #Leach


Things are looking up, Frank!

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
Crying at the presser, telling all the shirt tucks what they want to hear, benching Kelly and whoever so the tucks can see that he's in charge, scolding the media so tucks can talk about how he sticks up for his players, using the media to go home, or to have the tucks get behind him, the whole season was a drama, Its funny how all you people could see that when things weren't going so well. All I care about is whether he wins games so if he doesn't want to be here than good luck and goobye...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 10:58:55 AM
Quote from: 5601js on April 13, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
sgorten Steve Gorten
Frank Martin: new #UM AD says EVERYONE will be considered Whatever u do, just don't let Donald Trump write angry note on your behalf. #Leach




Looks like Frank's media maneuvering has worked.  'grats Frank.

That said, please stay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:01:36 AM
pretty great chance frank just copied and pasted that tweet and sent it to Currie with in an email with the title: "I'M GOING TO DO IT! DON'T TRY TO STOP ME!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2011, 11:02:46 AM
i'm totally on team frank right now....i keep checking "the wires" to see if miami has contacted him yet.  go get 'em, marty!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 11:04:04 AM
http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/frank-martin-miami-speculation-heres-fact-may-surprise-you/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
 :pbj: :pbj: :pbj: :pbj:  :pbj:

Frank right about now ^

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 11:04:04 AM
http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/frank-martin-miami-speculation-heres-fact-may-surprise-you/

He wants Frank to leave so bad.

It is unhealthy to hate Frank and KSU so much.  But I guess all of DG county is disgustingly unhealthy.   :barf:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Does Frank get any sleep tonight, or is he up waiting by the phone?

#pleasedontleavefrank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 13, 2011, 11:21:57 AM
876-5309
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 11:27:31 AM
All eight University of Miami fans are  :emawkid: on the streets of South Beach right now.

Hold on, Frank!  It's so close you can taste it!!!!!



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

The "who's gonna want you now" talk from Currie will be an awkward one. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
I give it two days before we're tracking planes.

 :emawkid:





Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
I give it two days before we're tracking planes.

 :emawkid:

dear lord, if that would happen.  i'd pay $9.95 just to see that blood bath.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.

You're making the assumption that the AD has power in this scenario.

It sounds like Shalala (or someone else) has been pulling the strings for some time.  Hence why they hired Al Golden, why Hocutt left for Tech, and why their list of applicants looked like a list you'd see at Wichita State.

I'm sure the AD has been briefed on what they want to see in a coach hired at UM, and Frank Martin does not fit that mold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.

You're making the assumption that the AD has power in this scenario.

It sounds like Shalala (or someone else) has been pulling the strings for some time.  Hence why they hired Al Golden, why Hocutt left for Tech, and why their list of applicants looked like a list you'd see at Wichita State.

I'm sure the AD has been briefed on what they want to see in a coach hired at UM, and Frank Martin does not fit that mold.

Isn't saying this similar to saying that Currie will have no control over Sean being the next FB coach?  Surely the new AD will have finger prints all over the first hire of his tenure.

It's going to be his first official action.  Could be the one his career is initially, if not ultimately, judged on.  No way an AD takes a job just to lay down on things like this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.

You're making the assumption that the AD has power in this scenario.

It sounds like Shalala (or someone else) has been pulling the strings for some time.  Hence why they hired Al Golden, why Hocutt left for Tech, and why their list of applicants looked like a list you'd see at Wichita State.

I'm sure the AD has been briefed on what they want to see in a coach hired at UM, and Frank Martin does not fit that mold.

there was a time when Weiser wasn't even thinking about Huggins.  All it takes is an Eddie Fogler. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
Isn't saying this similar to saying that Currie will have no control over Sean being the next FB coach?  Surely the new AD will have finger prints all over the first hire of his tenure.

It's going to be his first official action.  Could be the one his career is initially, if not ultimately, judged on.  No way an AD takes a job just to lay down on things like this.

If Wefald were still the UP, yes.  With Schulz, no.

I go back to something Dayton Moore said when he was hired with the Royals.  There are only 30 GM jobs in MLB.  When one comes open, you need to take it.  Conversely, there are ~70 BCS Jobs out there.  When you get a chance to have (AD - University of Miami) on your resume, you can pretty much live on that for the rest of your life if that doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:05:22 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.

You're making the assumption that the AD has power in this scenario.

It sounds like Shalala (or someone else) has been pulling the strings for some time.  Hence why they hired Al Golden, why Hocutt left for Tech, and why their list of applicants looked like a list you'd see at Wichita State.

I'm sure the AD has been briefed on what they want to see in a coach hired at UM, and Frank Martin does not fit that mold.

there was a time when Weiser wasn't even thinking about Huggins.  All it takes is an Eddie Fogler. 

I'm not disagreeing, but you're assuming that this guy wants Frank, and that the administration wants Frank.

We know that UM and Frank have talked already through intermediaries.  So they know Frank is/was interested if that's the case. If the administration wanted him, they would have told their lackey AD to draw up an offer.  However, it never even got close to that point.  I don't see how a new AD is going to sell this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No rough ridin' way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 13, 2011, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No effing way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


Allegedly kill a baby in Africa.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No rough ridin' way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


What if you won a bunch of championships and put a few kids in the NBA while killing said baby  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No effing way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


i dunno.  sherron would be/is welcomed back to chicago and  he actually did what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 12:14:22 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:05:22 PM
I'm not disagreeing, but you're assuming that this guy wants Frank, and that the administration wants Frank.

We know that UM and Frank have talked already through intermediaries.  So they know Frank is/was interested if that's the case. If the administration wanted him, they would have told their lackey AD to draw up an offer.  However, it never even got close to that point.  I don't see how a new AD is going to sell this.

And that's even assuming the new AD would want Martin.

I agree that very little has changed in the Miami/Martin drama. The new AD just gives media something to stir up again, and this will quickly go away when Miami starts looking at candidates that were on their original list from last week. Unless Martin decides to get something out there again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
he's going to be so, so sad when he still doesn't get interviewed  :cry:

That statement wasn't intended for Frank.  That statement was to make it seem like Miami wasn't completely resigned to hiring one of those scrubs on their current list.

Now the AD can say that they looked at all available applicants, and Jeff Capel was the best fit for Miami (because that's who the search firm told them to go with).

It's not like the interim AD was really holding up the process, here.  Whatever it was that prevented them from hiring Frank 48 hours ago is still in place.

stupidity is correctable, even by stupid people and even if by accident.

You're making the assumption that the AD has power in this scenario.

It sounds like Shalala (or someone else) has been pulling the strings for some time.  Hence why they hired Al Golden, why Hocutt left for Tech, and why their list of applicants looked like a list you'd see at Wichita State.

I'm sure the AD has been briefed on what they want to see in a coach hired at UM, and Frank Martin does not fit that mold.

These situations are fluid and can change and adjust drastically depending on the current dynamic.

Here's what is in play now that wasn't two days ago:  Their top target rejects them to stay at Harvard (lol).  They now have added their AD to the committee.

And I don't agree that this AD is in a powerless position in the scenario, willing to passively sit back and let this search firm manage the process simply because they started it.  Every AD wants their fingerprints on the hires and personell within their department.  I highly doubt he will not be playing an active role in this hire now and may possibly bring more candidates into the fold, one of them probably being Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No rough ridin' way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


The Miami Herald wants the baby killer to come back and coach basketball. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/12/2162604/miami-hurricanes-foolish-for.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 12:25:53 PM
Frank can be had for 1.1M apparently if I were the new AD I would plea to make a low ball run at him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:05:22 PM
I'm not disagreeing, but you're assuming that this guy wants Frank, and that the administration wants Frank.

We know that UM and Frank have talked already through intermediaries.  So they know Frank is/was interested if that's the case. If the administration wanted him, they would have told their lackey AD to draw up an offer.  However, it never even got close to that point.  I don't see how a new AD is going to sell this.

no, I' not assuming that this guy (or Shalalala) wants frank...atleast right now.  I'm saying that it's (a) stupid for them not to want Frank and (b) this stupidity can change - see KSU hiring Huggins as an example.  i mean, anyone who didn't tuck their shirts in tight wanted Huggins from the moment Wooly was fired, and according to Weiser, huggins wasn't even on his f'ing radar (stupid) until Eddie got in his ear.  Quickly, stupid Wesier changed and convinced our stupid Univ Pres.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-i.html

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Please take note: To this point, no individual has been excluded from consideration. And, no individual has been offered the position to coach at the University of Miami. Any account or report otherwise is inaccurate and pure speculation. From this point forward, I will take complete control of the search. I will exhaust all means to find coach who stands for the great values of this institution, is a fundamentally sound teacher of the game and will positively lead our players with a tremendous amount of passion, integrity and dedication.

Make no mistake, we are committed to doing what it takes to build a program capable of winning basketball championships. We're going to do it the old fashioned way: Hard work and a strong foundation. There are no shortcuts to building a program. In that regard, we will take as much time as necessary to find the right person for the job. It would not be appropriate to me, the University of Miami or any of the folks under consideration for the position to have any further comment regarding the search until we are ready to announce the person who will lead our program.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-i.html#ixzz1JQQOFKFo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 12:05:22 PM
I'm not disagreeing, but you're assuming that this guy wants Frank, and that the administration wants Frank.

We know that UM and Frank have talked already through intermediaries.  So they know Frank is/was interested if that's the case. If the administration wanted him, they would have told their lackey AD to draw up an offer.  However, it never even got close to that point.  I don't see how a new AD is going to sell this.

no, I' not assuming that this guy (or Shalalala) wants frank...atleast right now.  I'm saying that it's (a) stupid for them not to want Frank and (b) this stupidity can change - see KSU hiring Huggins as an example.  i mean, anyone who didn't tuck their shirts in tight wanted Huggins from the moment Wooly was fired, and according to Weiser, huggins wasn't even on his f'ing radar (stupid) until Eddie got in his ear.  Quickly, stupid Wesier changed and convinced our stupid Univ Pres.

This.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 12:30:45 PM
How have I missed this ridiculous looking picture all this time?  That's four buttons you've got on your sailboat sail of a suit jacket Frank.  Also, look at your amazing facial expression  :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.miamiherald.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F04%2F11%2F20%2FB82688819Z.1_20110411202402_000%2BG0V2IJ30C.3-0.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg&hash=38afcf4cc96845325b37563edb16fbaa3be21e34)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
"From this point forward, I will take complete control of the search".

 Buckle back up, boys. 



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
"From this point forward, I will take complete control of the search".

 Buckle back up, boys. 

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-i.html

Quote
Please take note: To this point, no individual has been excluded from consideration. And, no individual has been offered the position to coach at the University of Miami. Any account or report otherwise is inaccurate and pure speculation. From this point forward, I will take complete control of the search. I will exhaust all means to find coach who stands for the great values of this institution, is a fundamentally sound teacher of the game and will positively lead our players with a tremendous amount of passion, integrity and dedication.

Make no mistake, we are committed to doing what it takes to build a program capable of winning basketball championships. We're going to do it the old fashioned way: Hard work and a strong foundation. There are no shortcuts to building a program. In that regard, we will take as much time as necessary to find the right person for the job. It would not be appropriate to me, the University of Miami or any of the folks under consideration for the position to have any further comment regarding the search until we are ready to announce the person who will lead our program.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-i.html#ixzz1JQQOFKFo

goodbye, Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
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What we can do is bring in an ambassador of the game, who will not only to help us build the program by winning games and championships, but be extremely passionate about 'The U.' We have to hold everyone accountable, not just the student-athletes and the coach. We're all going to be held accountable for supporting this program. We're going to get it done.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-ii.html#ixzz1JQSWSDDI

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:37:49 PM
Quote
DOES THE BASKETBALL SEARCH START FROM SCRATCH?

The process is under evaluation at this point too. I'm not really sure, we'll figure things out in next 24 hours. But, again, everyone who has an interest in being our basketball coach at the University of Miami will get consideration. So, at this time, I really can't give you any more information than that.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/04/new-miami-ad-shawn-eichorst-speaks-to-south-florida-media-part-ii.html#ixzz1JQSu2vvM
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:41:13 PM
Warm up the plane tracker, motherfuckers!


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 13, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
He's gone. When was a-r-t supposed to sign? Today? That won't happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
Supposedly the late signing period begins today.  I don't know what the window is though, but I'm sure Frank won't let it happen until everything is resolved with Miami.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
Supposedly the late signing period begins today.  I don't know what the window is though, but I'm sure Frank won't let it happen until everything is resolved with Miami.



Doesn't it last through May, or something like that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 13, 2011, 12:46:54 PM
I'll miss 95 and omari as well. Genius job of using Rome and ap by frank. Rallied the local fans and media into a go get frank frenzy. Was fun while it lasted. Greg Marshall?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
Supposedly the late signing period begins today.  I don't know what the window is though, but I'm sure Frank won't let it happen until everything is resolved with Miami.



Doesn't it last through May, or something like that?

May 18th.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 12:49:22 PM
Cannot wait to see Frank walk for pay cut, higher cost of living, and put Te out on the street
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 12:53:42 PM
Think about how well Frank's F bombs will carry inside a small arena with about 2,000 fans in attendance.  I will be watching that crap.  Wait... will they EVER be on tv? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 12:49:22 PM
Cannot wait to see Frank walk for pay cut, higher cost of living, and put Te out on the street

The absolute pinnacle of K-STATEO.  Will probably never be topped.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 13, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 12:49:22 PM
Cannot wait to see Frank walk for pay cut, higher cost of living, and put Te out on the street

Can't wait for him to go off on Currie in his Miami intro presser, and when Katz or somebody nudges him to shut up, he says "may the bridges I burn light the way".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 13, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 12:49:22 PM
Cannot wait to see Frank walk for pay cut, higher cost of living, and put Te out on the street

Can't wait for him to go off on Currie in his Miami intro presser, and when Katz or somebody nudges him to shut up, he says "may the bridges I burn light the way".

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 13, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
Yeah. That cost of living is just such a bitch. It's the main reason that I chose to live in ogden instead of Manhattan. Don't know what frank is thinking.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 13, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No effing way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach. 

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


The Miami Herald wants the baby killer to come back and coach basketball. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/12/2162604/miami-hurricanes-foolish-for.html)

[email protected]   Warm up the hatemail
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 13, 2011, 12:46:54 PM
I'll miss 95 and omari as well. Genius job of using Rome and ap by frank. Rallied the local fans and media into a go get frank frenzy. Was fun while it lasted. Greg Marshall?

jfc.  there'd be nothing left for me at that point.  though I've been eyeing becoming an OU fan (again).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 13, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 13, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 13, 2011, 12:46:54 PM
I'll miss 95 and omari as well. Genius job of using Rome and ap by frank. Rallied the local fans and media into a go get frank frenzy. Was fun while it lasted. Greg Marshall?

jfc.  there'd be nothing left for me at that point.  though I've been eyeing becoming an OU fan (again).
I think we'll be let down even more. It will be like being an mu fan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
 :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
I love it when goEMAW goes goEMAW. Fun BBSing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
I love it when goEMAW goes goEMAW. Fun BBSing.

yep
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
hey, remember a couple hours ago when i said that I was on team frank?

well i've changed my mind.  eff you, Frank!  I hope you break your finger off in a stripper's ass.  Then they'll always call you "Four Finger Frank"


 :chainsaw: 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 01:38:57 PM
What's really upsetting is that even though Frank isn't going to get this job, we're still going to hear about it until they get a coach because he's going to use every second of this to get more money from Currie.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 01:40:04 PM
Even the Miami New Times is on board (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_sounds_like_hes_j.php)

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The only person they haven't seemed to call is the must-buzzed about and perhaps best option: Kansas State coach Frank Martin.

But they are still mocking him. (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/um_hires_wisconsins_shawn_eich.php)

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The Herald reports that Eichorst will have input in the search for a basketball coach. Maybe he'll actually be the one to reach out and call sad, sad Frank Martin.


  :dubious:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2011, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 12, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
And one more thing to consider:

When Frank says "I've got a lot of people calling me and wanting me to come back" he is most certainly talking about AAU and high school coaches that want to be tight with the U and would be if Frank was there.  He just stuck his neck out for them and made it look very much like he was lobbying for the job.  

Now he can go back to them and say: "crap, I tried as hard as I could and caught all kinds of hell back in Kansas, but Miami doesn't care about winning.  If you have some future Rhodes Scholars that might be a good place for them.  If you have a great basketball player that wants to win games, become a man, and get exposure, please send him my way."

Quote from: John Wefald
:nono:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 01:44:13 PM
This might be a little bit off topic, but from the front page of the Miami New Times: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-04-14/news/sensis-a-new-condom-for-drunks/

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvvoice.vo.llnwd.net%2Fe14%2F%2Fsensis-a-new-condom-for-drunks.6205099.40.jpg&hash=35294e2f4fd13887cfb666d0f563380b6cb29b3a)

 :party:


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
The  :runaway: is really picking up. The Frank stays VS Frank goes was about a 12 hour shift, now things are changing by the hour. The meltdown is going to be amazing. Would be amazing if Frank got an interview and told them to stick it.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
The  :runaway: is really picking up. The Frank stays VS Frank goes was about a 12 hour shift, now things are changing by the hour. The meltdown is going to be amazing. Would be amazing if Frank got an interview and told them to stick it.



0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 02:18:01 PM
...aaand we suddenly have a WHOLE lot more scratch to pay Frank!

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/28497528

 :drool:

Guess this was already on the football board hours ago.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 13, 2011, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 13, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
So is Katz to blame here?  Can't get his client in the mix so his client hail mary's something in the media?

Kinda sounds like it is time for a new agent.

it doesn't take some genius agent representation to know that approaching the situation in the way he did was an awful business decision.  some things Frank should probably be able to figure out on his own. 

I am talking more about Katz not being able to get Miami talking than I am Frank doing the interview.

they hired a search committee.  frank didn't meet their criteria.  what more can you do?

Ya, cheating his ass off at Miami high is cool if you don't ever won't to work in that town again.  No effing way Miami was going to bring him back and let the local gator/Seminole/bulls/knights/international-whatevs  just tee off on their coach.  

Let me give you an analogy that will help convey what I am saying;  If you go kill a baby ina  village in africa, you probably cannot go coach basketball later in that same village in africa...BUT you CAN go coach in Manhattan, KS and get butt hurt about baby killer questions loads less.  Same thing.


What if you won a bunch of championships and put a few kids in the NBA while killing said baby  :dunno:

Did the baby deserve it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2011, 03:10:01 PM
What a ride this has been.

You guys remember what the basketball board was like at ksufans during Wooly?  It's basically Sys respoding to _Fan's posts and vice versa, while throwing in the occasional Fatty mocking of the basketball fans.

Definitely glad I allocated my initial goEMAW capital investment on the football side.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 13, 2011, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 03:10:01 PM
What a ride this has been.

You guys remember what the basketball board was like at ksufans during Wooly?  It's basically Sys respoding to _Fan's posts and vice versa, while throwing in the occasional Fatty mocking of the basketball fans.

Definitely glad I allocated my initial goEMAW capital investment on the football side.

Nothing beat the Rusty "why i'm skeptical" thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 13, 2011, 03:18:55 PM
Naive to think Frank didn't know the TV contract was coming.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 13, 2011, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
I love it when goEMAW goes goEMAW. Fun BBSing.

yep

i do not enjoy this.  people premelting themselves because miami hired some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) northern kid who has vowed to seize complete control?  j. rake is sitting back and laughing (would also laugh at the haters, but lacks the self-confidence), which is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 13, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
Have word that frank might be filming a new AudioJunction Commercial....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Winters on April 13, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
Have word that frank might be filming a new AudioJunction Commercial....

great scoop wintz
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 13, 2011, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Winters on April 13, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
Have word that frank might be filming a new AudioJunction Commercial....

So now his salary totals 1.1025 million?  He's staying!   :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy on April 13, 2011, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 13, 2011, 03:10:01 PM
What a ride this has been.

You guys remember what the basketball board was like at ksufans during Wooly?  It's basically Sys respoding to _Fan's posts and vice versa, while throwing in the occasional Fatty mocking of the basketball fans.

Definitely glad I allocated my initial goEMAW capital investment on the football side.

Nothing beat the Rusty "why i'm skeptical" thread.

LOL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Quote
Miami officials still haven't reached out to Kansas State's Frank Martin now that Amaker is out of the running, according to multiple sources. If Miami can only offer close to $1 million or $1.1 million, that's $500,000 less than what Martin will receive at K-State. According to sources, even if Martin were approached, he wouldn't go for a major pay cut.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6345670/tommy-amaker-content-harvard
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 13, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
I love that all the negotiations are being handled through the press.  Makes this whole process a lot more fun for all of us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 13, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Quote
Miami officials still haven't reached out to Kansas State's Frank Martin now that Amaker is out of the running, according to multiple sources. If Miami can only offer close to $1 million or $1.1 million, that's $500,000 less than what Martin will receive at K-State. According to sources, even if Martin were approached, he wouldn't go for a major pay cut.

wtf?  martin just covered this.  pay attention, fake katz!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: sys on April 13, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Quote
Miami officials still haven't reached out to Kansas State's Frank Martin now that Amaker is out of the running, according to multiple sources. If Miami can only offer close to $1 million or $1.1 million, that's $500,000 less than what Martin will receive at K-State. According to sources, even if Martin were approached, he wouldn't go for a major pay cut.

wtf?  martin just covered this.  pay attention, fake katz!

Heh heh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Quote
Miami officials still haven't reached out to Kansas State's Frank Martin now that Amaker is out of the running, according to multiple sources. If Miami can only offer close to $1 million or $1.1 million, that's $500,000 less than what Martin will receive at K-State. According to sources, even if Martin were approached, he wouldn't go for a major pay cut.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6345670/tommy-amaker-content-harvard

Other item to note:

Quote
Credit Florida's Billy Donovan for making sound hires for his staff this week. Donovan added experience in Norm Roberts, formerly of St. John's, and his good friend and former assistant John Pelphrey, formerly of Arkansas.

So, it would appear that Pelphrey isn't on Miami's radar any longer either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 04:14:17 PM
miss fake katz picking on the recruiting guys
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 04:38:19 PM
Tommy Amaker is such a snob.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on April 13, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
PTI just gave their two cents on the topic. Kornheiser says K-State is a better team with him, but that our AD should tell Miami's AD to call Frank and make the offer because we shouldn't want him anymore. Wilbon responds by saying "When's the last time they were in a championship? There's a school up the road that has."

'grats beems!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Johnny Thunderbone on April 13, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
PTI just gave their two cents on the topic. Kornheiser says K-State is a better team with him, but that our AD should tell Miami's AD to call Frank and make the offer because we shouldn't want him anymore. Wilbon responds by saying "When's the last time they were in a championship? There's a school up the road that has."

'grats beems!  :cheers:

I may be stupid, or it may be Kornheiser being a rambling idiot, but I don't know what he's trying to say here.

We shouldn't want Martin because he makes us better?  Am I getting that right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Johnny Thunderbone on April 13, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
PTI just gave their two cents on the topic. Kornheiser says K-State is a better team with him, but that our AD should tell Miami's AD to call Frank and make the offer because we shouldn't want him anymore. Wilbon responds by saying "When's the last time they were in a championship? There's a school up the road that has."

'grats beems!  :cheers:

I may be stupid, or it may be Kornheiser being a rambling idiot, but I don't know what he's trying to say here.

We shouldn't want Martin because he makes us better?  Am I getting that right?


even though KSU is better with Martin, we should tell Martin to F off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on April 13, 2011, 05:04:54 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 13, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Johnny Thunderbone on April 13, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
PTI just gave their two cents on the topic. Kornheiser says K-State is a better team with him, but that our AD should tell Miami's AD to call Frank and make the offer because we shouldn't want him anymore. Wilbon responds by saying "When's the last time they were in a championship? There's a school up the road that has."

'grats beems!  :cheers:

I may be stupid, or it may be Kornheiser being a rambling idiot, but I don't know what he's trying to say here.

We shouldn't want Martin because he makes us better?  Am I getting that right?


Not sure, really. Assuming he meant if our coach is openly lobbying for another job that we should go after him with pitchforks and fire until he's gone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 13, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
Fantastic advertising to our national following.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
Anyone can see what has taken place, the way I have seen it has been like this...coaches talk, Martain has known either through coach talk or his sources in Miami that Haith was going to be on the first job out of Miami, thus the reason why Angel did not sign immediately at kstate. I'm sure Frank expected a coronation ceremony the day Haith left simply because he was Frank Martin from Miami, he expected that job to be his, but when he wasn't contacted I'm sure he felt like wtf? Miami put a clog in his plan, so yes, he had to use the media to get his message out. Frank probably told angel to wait until April, because he had some inside information. Funny how people kept saying that angel intended to play for Frank, so if Frank had any intention of staying with kstate, than angel would of signed on signing day. Frank isn't stupid, he used Beasley and walker to jump start his coaching career, pullen was a unexpected bonus, lets be honest without pullen this year's team probably wouldn't of even made the nit.....I could care less about the Frank Martin side show, I only care about Winning, and quite honestly I think Franks smoke and mirrors show at kstate is coming to a end.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 13, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
Anyone can see what has taken place, the way I have seen it has been like this...coaches talk, Martain has known either through coach talk or his sources in Miami that Haith was going to be on the first job out of Miami, thus the reason why Angel did not sign immediately at kstate. I'm sure Frank expected a coronation ceremony the day Haith left simply because he was Frank Martin from Miami, he expected that job to be his, but when he wasn't contacted I'm sure he felt like wtf? Miami put a clog in his plan, so yes, he had to use the media to get his message out. Frank probably told angel to wait until April, because he had some inside information. Funny how people kept saying that angel intended to play for Frank, so if Frank had any intention of staying with kstate, than angel would of signed on signing day. Frank isn't stupid, he used Beasley and walker to jump start his coaching career, pullen was a unexpected bonus, lets be honest without pullen this year's team probably wouldn't of even made the nit.....I could care less about the Frank Martin side show, I only care about Winning, and quite honestly I think Franks smoke and mirrors show at kstate is coming to a end.

covers a lot of stupid for a single run on paragraph.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 13, 2011, 05:57:38 PM
Gotta think all this great press thanks to Frank is really helping our recruiting and national brand credibility as a basketball program.

Pretty cool to be perceived as a bigger dead end shithole than the perennial ACC bottom feeder that Tommy rough ridin' Amaker wouldn't even touch with a ten foot pole.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
The shitty thing is we can't even fire him without loading his pockets with $$$.  He just gets to jerk us off until he decides what he's going to do.  I hope Currie is making a list and getting crap lined up for his coaching search rather than contacting Frank about more $$ or an extension.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
The cacty thing is we can't even fire him without loading his pockets with $$$.  He just gets to jerk us off until he decides what he's going to do.  I hope Currie is making a list and getting cac lined up for his coaching search rather than contacting Frank about more $$ or an extension.
AMEN!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 06:14:37 PM
I'm rough ridin' pissed at Frank but I also like being good at basketball.  I doubt we have a legit chance at finding a better coach so I guess I will just have to be butthurt for awhile.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 13, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
The cacty thing is we can't even fire him without loading his pockets with $$$.  He just gets to jerk us off until he decides what he's going to do.  I hope Currie is making a list and getting cac lined up for his coaching search rather than contacting Frank about more $$ or an extension.
AMEN!

LOL Wut, overreact much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dub on April 13, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
Quote from: nicname on April 13, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 13, 2011, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
The cacty thing is we can't even fire him without loading his pockets with $$$.  He just gets to jerk us off until he decides what he's going to do.  I hope Currie is making a list and getting cac lined up for his coaching search rather than contacting Frank about more $$ or an extension.
AMEN!

LOL Wut, overreact much.

I agree.  Also don't think there's any chance in hell that we would hire anyone worth a damn if he left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 13, 2011, 06:42:56 PM
So why do Frank and Currie hate each other?  Is Currie just incompetent or Frank just petulant?  (Sorry I don't read every thread over here)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 13, 2011, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.


Quote
From Andy Katz:

• Milwaukee's Rob Jeter has been contacted by Miami officials and is expected to hear about a possible interview soon, according to sources. Jeter didn't work with new Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst at Wisconsin, but both know each other well through contacts in the state. Jeter had already gone to Milwaukee (from Bo Ryan's Wisconsin staff) when Eichorst was hired to be Barry Alvarez's assistant athletic director with the Badgers. Eichorst said he is taking control of the search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 13, 2011, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: sys on April 13, 2011, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 12, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Nope-AD is from Wisconsin RT @BBryan75: @gottliebshow is Miami going to call Frank Martin?

this is funnier than a whore.


Quote
From Andy Katz:

• Milwaukee's Rob Jeter has been contacted by Miami officials and is expected to hear about a possible interview soon, according to sources. Jeter didn't work with new Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst at Wisconsin, but both know each other well through contacts in the state. Jeter had already gone to Milwaukee (from Bo Ryan's Wisconsin staff) when Eichorst was hired to be Barry Alvarez's assistant athletic director with the Badgers. Eichorst said he is taking control of the search.


Bitb was pimping this guy today
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:

I think football season will be pretty rewarding as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:

I think football season will be pretty rewarding as well.

Yep. Great time to be a kayessyou cats fan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:

I think football season will be pretty rewarding as well.

Yep. Great time to be a kayessyou cats fan.

If you like your bbs'ing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:

I think football season will be pretty rewarding as well.

Yep. Great time to be a kayessyou cats fan.

If you like your bbs'ing.

Which I do!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 13, 2011, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Next bball season is going to be fantastic bbsing. Absolutely fantastic.  :driving:

I think football season will be pretty rewarding as well.

Yep. Great time to be a kayessyou cats fan.

If you like your bbs'ing.

Which I do!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmob946.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad306%2FMusicandMonsters%2FGifs%2Fpump-chest.gif%3Ft%3D1264813722&hash=cd55e8cfbedf1976ecccf298cabc8c755a369d2f)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
Would like to see how one leverages a lower paying job for a higher paying one.  Something different..
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
Would like to see how one leverages a lower paying job for a higher paying one.  Something different..

this is apparently how you attempt to do it.  pretty rough ridin' hilarious so far. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2011, 08:51:40 PM
for the purposes of negotiation, miami's offer is irrelevant.  ksu may feel it needs to offer more to keep him, but the point is not simply to outbid miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 13, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
Curious what the other schools that have had interest in Frank were offering.  Maybe the Pay Frank campaign was totally unnecessary and we're way overpaying him and 'Te?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 13, 2011, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
Would like to see how one leverages a lower paying job for a higher paying one.  Something different..

this is apparently how you attempt to do it.  pretty rough ridin' hilarious so far. 

yeah you're witnessing it buddy. just sit back and enjoy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
a summary in pictures

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi666.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv23%2Fjeremy365%2FMiami_Orange.gif&hash=362113d0e8f1621e959ecf9a82562b52fa9398cd)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 13, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/4/13/harvard-amaker-booster-amakers/

1.1 million dollars!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 13, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Who's the hobbit in that animated pic?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 13, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Who's the hobbit in that animated pic?

donna shalalalalaay, prez at miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Whale on April 13, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
Would make for some incredible bbs'ing if currie could somehow get Miami to hire 'te for their head coach opening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 13, 2011, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: sys on April 13, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/4/13/harvard-amaker-booster-amakers/

1.1 million dollars!!!


Don't want to be around Frank when he hears this
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 13, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Who's the hobbit in that animated pic?

donna shalalalalaay, prez at miami

Reverse auction of sorts Frank has set up here.  He may go 1.05M to stay in the conversation at the U.  KSU may need to counter with 1.7M to keep him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
a summary in pictures

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi666.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv23%2Fjeremy365%2FMiami_Orange.gif&hash=362113d0e8f1621e959ecf9a82562b52fa9398cd)

haha holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on April 13, 2011, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 13, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Who's the hobbit in that animated pic?

donna shalalalalaay, prez at miami

Reverse auction of sorts Frank has set up here.  He may go 1.05M to stay in the conversation at the U.  KSU may need to counter with 1.7M to keep him.

Maybe. Would be hilarious. It would seem that money is far from the biggest issue frank would need to overcome to get into the miami conversation, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 13, 2011, 11:03:49 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chunkles on April 13, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
a summary in pictures

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi666.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv23%2Fjeremy365%2FMiami_Orange.gif&hash=362113d0e8f1621e959ecf9a82562b52fa9398cd)

holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on April 13, 2011, 11:52:04 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 13, 2011, 07:38:09 PM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmob946.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad306%2FMusicandMonsters%2FGifs%2Fpump-chest.gif%3Ft%3D1264813722&hash=cd55e8cfbedf1976ecccf298cabc8c755a369d2f)

lol

Quote from: pissclams on April 13, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
a summary in pictures

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi666.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv23%2Fjeremy365%2FMiami_Orange.gif&hash=362113d0e8f1621e959ecf9a82562b52fa9398cd)

This is great. Between this and j rake's fake headlines, this thread has some gems.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 13, 2011, 11:57:27 PM
kstatefans pushing that he will interview if asked
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 13, 2011, 11:59:20 PM
Being a fan of successful KSU sports >>>>>>>>>>>>>> KSU drama and hot button bbs topics

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 14, 2011, 07:06:38 AM
I see what you did there by including Shalala wearing purple in that pic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2011, 07:11:25 AM
Somebody needs to do one with Frank in front of the U admin building with a boom box.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Fmedia%2Frm233999616%2Ftt0098258&hash=74ae805bf5ef3013713716b6e47ed755727eb48c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 07:23:59 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 13, 2011, 11:59:20 PM
Being a fan of successful KSU sports >>>>>>>>>>>>>> KSU drama and hot button bbs topics
Quote

Being a fan of successful KSU sports = KSU drama and hot button bbs topics = entertainment

otherwise, there's something wrong with your life.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 08:25:28 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2011, 07:11:25 AM
Somebody needs to do one with Frank in front of the U admin building with a boom box.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Fmedia%2Frm233999616%2Ftt0098258&hash=74ae805bf5ef3013713716b6e47ed755727eb48c)
Would be superb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 08:40:35 AM
Quote
And at 7:30?p.m. Saturday, they will be honored by their alma mater in a hall of fame ceremony. Also to be inducted, among others: graduates Frank Martin (the Kansas State basketball coach) and Jamaal Jackson (a Philadelphia Eagles offensive lineman).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 14, 2011, 08:44:12 AM
 
@SaveUMFootball
Papa Cane
 Dear Frank Martin, take the offer.

WTF is this!?!?!?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
Frank should have a clause in his next contract that his salary will automatically be lowered to match whatever he tells the media he makes.  obv. this will not work for raises.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 14, 2011, 08:56:21 AM
bye frank, thanks for keeping us competitive after huggs left.

signed,

cireksu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 09:02:06 AM
Frank,

In the slim chance you leave, please realize you had more fans stay for your post game radio deal in the OOD than you will have in attendance in many/most of your games at Miami.

_FAN

But if you must, you must. (still unlikely)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:06:40 AM
remember huggins' road trip to meet with wvu?  well, i was just thinking about if frank drove down to miami and concluded that it would be one motherfucking bitch of a drive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:06:40 AM
remember huggins' road trip to meet with wvu?  well, i was just thinking about if frank drove down to miami and concluded that it would be one motherfucking bitch of a drive.

families with vans full of kids do that pilgramage to disney world.  it's not impossible. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
Quote from: beefpac on April 14, 2011, 08:44:12 AM

@SaveUMFootball
Papa Cane
 Dear Frank Martin, take the offer.

WTF is this!?!?!?

I would say the offer to interview or whatever.  The whole 'all takers' thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2011, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

many of us did our best melting down the minute Haith was hired, better to just get it out of the way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
Someone needs to call Frank, while faking a voice, and pose as the UM AD.  Toss out a few hypos and just see where we stand.  Tell Frank that you will get back to him, then report it all here.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
WIBW was saying on the radio yesterday from "sources" that Angel R. signed with us yesterday.  That should put an end to the Martin speculation.  No official press release yet.   :pbj: :kstatriot: :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 09:39:22 AM
Quote
curtiskitchen Curtis Kitchen
As of last night, Frank Martin still had not been contacted by #Miami. I took new AD's "interest" comments as lip service. #kstate
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
WIBW was saying on the radio yesterday from "sources" that Angel R. signed with us yesterday.  That should put an end to the Martin speculation.  No official press release yet.   :pbj: :kstatriot: :bracketmouse:

Frank should call Rome and bitch about delivering these top level recruits and only getting paid $900k a year.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
WIBW was saying on the radio yesterday from "sources" that Angel R. signed with us yesterday.  That should put an end to the Martin speculation.  No official press release yet.   :pbj: :kstatriot: :bracketmouse:

Need confirmation. 

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 09:41:28 AM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
WIBW was saying on the radio yesterday from "sources" that Angel R. signed with us yesterday.  That should put an end to the Martin speculation.  No official press release yet.   :pbj: :kstatriot: :bracketmouse:
Yeah, no way he would leave his star recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Just now:

Quote
CNSCasey
CNSCasey CNSCasey
@robcassidy22 did Angel sign with us yesterday?

Quote
Rob Cassidy
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
@CNSCasey Not as of 2:00.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
AM OR PM ROB!?  :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 14, 2011, 10:12:35 AM
had a bad feeling today when i woke up.   :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
yeah, i actually heard nobody signed.... so yeah
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 14, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
yeah, i actually heard nobody signed.... so yeah

Leverage.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 14, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 14, 2011, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 14, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
yeah, i actually heard nobody signed.... so yeah

Leverage.

Nah, AR-11 is much more important to Frank than he is to anyone in the athletic dept.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: doom on April 14, 2011, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 14, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
yeah, i actually heard nobody signed.... so yeah

Leverage.

Nah, AR-11 is much more important to Frank than he is to anyone in the athletic dept.

Well he could just take his ball and go home?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

I agree. It's pretty obvious that his full fledged media attack won him the right to interview. From there, it's pretty much over. I think this thing has just drug on so long that people are worn out on the freaking out front. I'm still betting on Greg Marshall as new headcatcoach. Thoughts? Also maybe underwood as a backup in case Marshall turns it down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
Also, I think its without a doubt a fact that Miami knew frank wanted to come back really, really, really  badly. They make him think that they aren't interested and then boom. Not only does he still really want it, all the sudden he wants it and is willing to do it for several hundreds of thousands less. These Miami people aren't rubes. Surprised people aren't putting the clues together. I mean tommy amaker? Yeah right. Lol. Just a pawn to get frank for 1.1 imo. More like pawny amaker imo.

I mean, just think about it. Negotiations with frank haven't even begun and Miami officials already know exactly how low he's willing to go. Pure genius. Frank has been living in ks too long.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

I agree. It's pretty obvious that his full fledged media attack won him the right to interview. From there, it's pretty much over. I think this thing has just drug on so long that people are worn out on the freaking out front. I'm still betting on Greg Marshall as new headcatcoach. Thoughts? Also maybe underwood as a backup in case Marshall turns it down.

my gut says to go with a hensies undies package deal.  co head coaches maybe?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

I agree. It's pretty obvious that his full fledged media attack won him the right to interview. From there, it's pretty much over. I think this thing has just drug on so long that people are worn out on the freaking out front. I'm still betting on Greg Marshall as new headcatcoach. Thoughts? Also maybe underwood as a backup in case Marshall turns it down.

my gut says to go with a hensies undies package deal.  co head coaches maybe?

those two guys know more about EMAW hoops and EMAW hoops tradition than Donna Shalala has in her dick!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Just now:

Quote
CNSCasey
CNSCasey CNSCasey
@robcassidy22 did Angel sign with us yesterday?

Quote
Rob Cassidy
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
@CNSCasey Not as of 2:00.

Rob is about as informed on KSU athletics as KU is on football...  :jerk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

I agree. It's pretty obvious that his full fledged media attack won him the right to interview. From there, it's pretty much over. I think this thing has just drug on so long that people are worn out on the freaking out front. I'm still betting on Greg Marshall as new headcatcoach. Thoughts? Also maybe underwood as a backup in case Marshall turns it down.

my gut says to go with a hensies undies package deal.  co head coaches maybe?

those two guys know more about EMAW hoops and EMAW hoops tradition than Donna Shalala has in her dick!

Was literally going to post this exact same statement.  Exact, to the letter.  Well put, Steve Dave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Just now:

Quote
CNSCasey
CNSCasey CNSCasey
@robcassidy22 did Angel sign with us yesterday?

Quote
Rob Cassidy
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
@CNSCasey Not as of 2:00.

Rob is about as informed on KSU athletics as KU is on football...  :jerk:

Rob is one of the better writers we have.  I like him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 14, 2011, 01:08:37 PM
B) SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
There Is Another: UM is pursuing another candidate not named Frank Martin who has a UM connection and is highly regarded. Can't share name.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply »
 
A) SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Response To All: Yes, Frank Martin has an offer on the table. See this as Round 2 of negotiations.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

A) F!  
B) YES!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

JFC, we caught lightning in a bottle with the practice facility timing.  Wow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

JFC, we caught lightning in a bottle with the practice facility timing.  Wow.

Won't be enough to get equal level of coach unless we do go for pearl or samps, which I don't see our 'tucks going for.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

JFC, we caught lightning in a bottle with the practice facility timing.  Wow.

Won't be enough to get equal level of coach unless we do go for pearl or samps, which I don't see our 'tucks going for.

Tim Floyd.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

Yeah, just get it done. I've been in the "this is unlikely" camp the whole time, but now a bit more uneasy.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3549%2F3462352705_216f81cbed.jpg&hash=a65aaec44cce9753d11a3749949ff3de6ae7974e)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 14, 2011, 01:19:03 PM
Tarkanian or Geno Auriemma.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 01:19:13 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

JFC, we caught lightning in a bottle with the practice facility timing.  Wow.

Won't be enough to get equal level of coach unless we do go for pearl or samps, which I don't see our 'tucks going for.

Tim Floyd.

Don't see the "right way" crew going for this.  Many hated the Huggs hire initially and all he ever did was drink a bunch and have a player or two punch a horse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over with either way.

Either we're back to rebuilding (i.e. Iowa State), or we go forward.  Regardless, it just needs to end.

Frank, if you are going to leave, please do it soon.

kthxbai

JFC, we caught lightning in a bottle with the practice facility timing.  Wow.

Won't be enough to get equal level of coach unless we do go for pearl or samps, which I don't see our 'tucks going for.

Tim Floyd.

Eh, yeah, I'd take.

Would prefer oscar...The Bold.

(I'm trademarking that right now.)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
so wtf made everyone so uneasy all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_miami_scandal.php
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 14, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
so wtf made everyone so uneasy all of a sudden?

Just want to know. The longer the wait, the more uneasy. But nothing other than that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_miami_scandal.php

Who knew the U would be so tucky?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_miami_scandal.php

Who knew the U would be so tucky?


Quote
"You don't need someone tainted," the official said. "Our reputation is too good for that.

pfft
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 14, 2011, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/04/frank_martin_miami_scandal.php

YESSSS!!!

Maybe we could start spreading rumors that Frank accidentally butt dialed a recruit during the quiet period and the NCAA is investigating.  Could seal his fate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2011, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Just now:

Quote
CNSCasey
CNSCasey CNSCasey
@robcassidy22 did Angel sign with us yesterday?

Quote
Rob Cassidy
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
@CNSCasey Not as of 2:00.

Rob is about as informed on KSU athletics as KU is on football...  :jerk:

Rob is one of the better writers we have.  I like him.

You are a very good poster, but you are still in GPC mode a bit.  There are like 5 tucks over here, you don't have to respond to them.  He's clearly too stupid to get it anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 01:35:06 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.palmbeachpost.com%2Fcaneswatch%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F04%2Feichorst.jpg&hash=95e765a1bd8dad0018b9f34c03f843b0ba9db5c9)

Call me crazy, but I don't think this guy looks like the type of guy to give Frank a call.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 01:35:06 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.palmbeachpost.com%2Fcaneswatch%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F04%2Feichorst.jpg&hash=95e765a1bd8dad0018b9f34c03f843b0ba9db5c9)

Call me crazy, but I don't think this guy looks like the type of guy to give Frank a call.

Looks like he's GP's bro.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 01:36:56 PM
Quote
NorthstarBball Alex Schwartz
I love Twitter& think it's great 4 getting out news.But it also allows people to create rumors..like Frank Martin having an offer from Miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 01:39:37 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 14, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
so wtf made everyone so uneasy all of a sudden?

Just want to know. The longer the wait, the more uneasy. But nothing other than that.

I got uneasy the second I heard Rome going off for five minutes about how Miami needed frank and how they have to hire him, etc. That kind of crap riles up local fan support and phone calls and letters, etc. Then the pres quickly hired an ad so she could come out clean in the whole thing and say "the new ad hired him. Not me." The momentum just kept building and building. They'll end up finally coming to their senses and make the right move by hiring him and we will be stuck with sprads, victor, gips and underwood. Ro will also come back so Everybody can hurry up and get that sports illustrated signed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 14, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
What if Miami wanted Frank to complete their online application and Frank big timed them?  Can't get an interview if you aren't in the system with HR.

Food for thought.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 14, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
so wtf made everyone so uneasy all of a sudden?

realization that previous overconfidence had no factual basis?

a lot has changed, too.  among other things, with the new miami ad, both parties have now stated that they'd at least consider it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 14, 2011, 01:42:59 PM
Hell hath no fury
Martin scorned by taint talk
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 14, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
Quote
A UM official said the reluctance so far to pursue Kansas State's Frank Martin relates to concerns about his past: Miami High vacated two of his state titles because of school employees' and boosters' recruiting violations, and two Kansas State players had NCAA suspensions last season.

We may owe Dillard's an apology.

 The Pat Bosco mean ugly chick who manages Dillard's Basketball Extravaganza
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 14, 2011, 01:54:45 PM
A local charity is going to enjoy hooping with a Frank Autographed bball. Going to send my Frank Doom shirt to Haiti so no one will see it here in the US. Going to put my Frank Doom coffee mug in a drawer somewhere then find it years later and get teary eyed thinking about the good times I had when he was our coach.  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: Tortuga on April 14, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
What if Miami wanted Frank to complete their online application and Frank big timed them?  Can't get an interview if you aren't in the system with HR.

Food for thought.

LOL,  I've done this to a company before.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2011, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 14, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
Quote
A UM official said the reluctance so far to pursue Kansas State's Frank Martin relates to concerns about his past: Miami High vacated two of his state titles because of school employees' and boosters' recruiting violations, and two Kansas State players had NCAA suspensions last season.

We may owe Dillard's an apology.

 The Pat Bosco mean ugly chick who manages Dillard's Basketball Extravaganza

mean ugly chick who manages Dillard's Basketball Extravaganza!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 14, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
someone forward the deadspin article where frank's checking oil to the Miami Herald and the U.  tia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 14, 2011, 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 14, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
someone forward the deadspin article where frank's checking oil to the Miami Herald and the U.  tia.

NO.  The Miami Herald loves Frank.  It's the Miami New Times that is our friend.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 02:16:09 PM
Quote
AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter at Miami today for an interview, per a source
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/4/14/2111297/and-here-we-go
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 14, 2011, 02:27:45 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 02:16:09 PM
Quote
AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter at Miami today for an interview, per a source

i feel a lot better, now.  Isn't the new AD from Wisconsin?  And wasn't Jeter an assistant at Wisconsin?

Seems like that's a done deal already.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 14, 2011, 02:31:16 PM
Good news, guys. 

Rob Jeter listed me as a character reference.  Well, guess who just got a call from the University of Miami HR department?

:cool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/4/14/2111297/and-here-we-go
What's your % now?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2011, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 14, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
there aren't enough meltdowns here.  frank is being aggressive and miami will find him to be very lovable and convincing if they get to know him a little.

I agree. It's pretty obvious that his full fledged media attack won him the right to interview. From there, it's pretty much over. I think this thing has just drug on so long that people are worn out on the freaking out front. I'm still betting on Greg Marshall as new headcatcoach. Thoughts? Also maybe underwood as a backup in case Marshall turns it down.

my gut says to go with a hensies undies package deal.  co head coaches maybe?
i never thought of a hensies undies comboPAK, it's a great idea.  imagine how the b12 would feel after we announce that one, they'd prob kick us out of the conf b/c we would have effectively lock'd up all the trophs for the next decade+ of b12 college hoops.  i can see the b12 board of regents not approving the deal though, would cost too much to pay them both, although you could argue that our marketing revenue would go up after winning 10 straight b12 trophs.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 14, 2011, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 01:31:22 PM

Quote
"You don't need someone tainted," the official said. "Our reputation is too good for that.

pfft


I lol'd too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/4/14/2111297/and-here-we-go
What's your % now?

<20%.

I still think they are much more likely to hire Jeter (or someone like him) than they are to hire Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 14, 2011, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 14, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Just now:

Quote
CNSCasey
CNSCasey CNSCasey
@robcassidy22 did Angel sign with us yesterday?

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Rob Cassidy
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
@CNSCasey Not as of 2:00.

Rob is about as informed on KSU athletics as KU is on football...  :jerk:

Rob is one of the better writers we have.  I like him.

You are a very good poster, but you are still in GPC mode a bit.  There are like 5 tucks over here, you don't have to respond to them.  He's clearly too stupid to get it anyway.

You talking to me?  I'm not on GPC.  and which one of us is stupid?  :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg829.imageshack.us%2Fimg829%2F5919%2Fhensiesundsies.jpg&hash=94da9b5f1080dd76b54b44834f623a016bb6e71f)

stare into their eyes and tell them that you won't box out.  try to tell them that you won't  play defense for them.  you can't. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/4/14/2111297/and-here-we-go
What's your % now?

<20%.

I still think they are much more likely to hire Jeter (or someone like him) than they are to hire Frank.

0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 14, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/4/14/2111297/and-here-we-go
What's your % now?

<20%.

I still think they are much more likely to hire Jeter (or someone like him) than they are to hire Frank.

0%

100%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2011, 02:16:09 PM
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AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter at Miami today for an interview, per a source

They really don't want to win basketball games it appears
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

Uncomfortable meeting, I'm guessing.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 14, 2011, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 14, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg829.imageshack.us%2Fimg829%2F5919%2Fhensiesundsies.jpg&hash=94da9b5f1080dd76b54b44834f623a016bb6e71f)

stare into their eyes and tell them that you won't box out.  try to tell them that you won't  play defense for them.  you can't. 

The Mac Attack
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

Uncomfortable meeting, I'm guessing.

Not uncomfortable for Currie.  I bet at the first mention of the Miami job Currie just says, "Well, it's been real, you'll do great down there!"  and quickly stands up to go and Frank starts blubbering like an idiot. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 14, 2011, 03:10:24 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

Uncomfortable meeting, I'm guessing.

Not uncomfortable for Currie.  I bet at the first mention of the Miami job Currie just says, "Well, it's been real, you'll do great down there!"  and quickly stands up to go and Frank starts blubbering like an idiot. 


I wonder if he leaves if The Patio pulls their cuban menu in a really small-timey way similar to "freedom fries" or maybe they put up a che poster or something.  Would be great.  Merc could cover it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 03:11:19 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

Uncomfortable meeting, I'm guessing.

Not uncomfortable for Currie.  I bet at the first mention of the Miami job Currie just says, "Well, it's been real, you'll do great down there!"  and quickly stands up to go and Frank starts blubbering like an idiot. 

I like to think that JC has the onions to do that.  

If not, there has to be a lot of really uncomfy looks to absorb.  Could you imagine having to get through a meeting with an unhappy Frank.  Would be the bad part of most days.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 14, 2011, 03:15:35 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Not uncomfortable for Currie. 

i hope currie destoys him on questions about mcgruder.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2011, 03:23:48 PM
Quote
Jeff Goodman
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Sources have told FOXSports.com that Jeter is a candidate for Miami - and a meeting could occur between Jeter and new AD in Wisconsin soon.
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Jeff Goodman
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter is NOT in Miami today, per multiple sources. Source said he just left his office a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

I like to envision Currie reading some bullet points from a print out that he got from some random HR software.

"So, Frank, in the last review cycle, one of your goals was to go to the Final Four.  Well, doesn't look like you hit that one.  What could you have done better to achieve that goal?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

I like to envision Currie reading some bullet points from a print out that he got from some random HR software.

"So, Frank, in the last review cycle, one of your goals was to go to the Final Four.  Well, doesn't look like you hit that one.  What could you have done better to achieve that goal?"

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 14, 2011, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 14, 2011, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 14, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
BITB: Frank is meeting with Currie for his annual review as we speak.

Uncomfortable meeting, I'm guessing.

Not uncomfortable for Currie.  I bet at the first mention of the Miami job Currie just says, "Well, it's been real, you'll do great down there!"  and quickly stands up to go and Frank starts blubbering like an idiot. 

More like "well...here's the Miami offer that you thought I couldn't get. Idiot. Don't think I won't take it either. Balls in your court now sparky."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2011, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?

Hope this post gets the appropriate love that it deserves. :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?

Their steaks really are pretty good for the price.  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 14, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?

Their steaks really are pretty good for the price.  :love:

Currie's ability to gauge quality compared to cost extends beyond the athletic department, apparently.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 14, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
Currie: "I'm just gonna go ahead and check 'Needs Improvement' on the Final Four Goal. Mmmkay?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on April 14, 2011, 04:31:48 PM
Quote from: theKSU on April 14, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
Currie: "I'm just gonna go ahead and check 'Needs Improvement' on the Final Four Goal. Mmmkay?"

"But I'm a people person damnit!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 06:51:46 PM
Quote
UMsportsguy Luis Gutierrez
Source tells me Marquette HC Buzz Williams has been contacted by Miami for HC position. New AD Shawn Eichorst really likes him.
:surprised: well, there goes the "they won't pay" talking point.  Buzz will tell them to GTFOOHF but still, huh.  almost hard to believe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 14, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Are we the only ones that like Frank???  Frank is going to pissed when he finds out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2011, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 14, 2011, 06:51:46 PM
Quote
UMsportsguy Luis Gutierrez
Source tells me Marquette HC Buzz Williams has been contacted by Miami for HC position. New AD Shawn Eichorst really likes him.
:surprised: well, there goes the "they won't pay" talking point.  Buzz will tell them to GTFOOHF but still, huh.  almost hard to believe.


cuz it's not about money
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 14, 2011, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 14, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Are we the only ones that like Frank???  Frank is going to pissed when he finds out.

I love Frank.   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 14, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Are we the only ones that like Frank???  Frank is going to pissed when he finds out.

I think a lot of people like Frank, but I don't think they like him enough to employ him.

His "Crazy Frank" shtick makes for amazing television, and he gives great, great interviews.  He's very amiable and approachable off of the field, so he'll always have positive media feedback.

But, with his on court temper, he'll never be a universally desired coach.  You'll have to have a very tolerable fan base (much like a co-dependent girlfriend) that will love him for who he is and is absolutely terrified of being left to fend for themselves without him.

Fans will want him, but the list of ADs willing to take a chance on him is going to be much lower.  He'll always be perceived as a ticking time bomb (like Bobby Knight was) and a potential liability.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
You'll have to have a very tolerable fan base (much like a co-dependent girlfriend) that will love him for who he is and is absolutely terrified of being left to fend for themselves without him.

That is an absolutely awesome and perfect metaphor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 14, 2011, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: Benja on April 14, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
You'll have to have a very tolerable fan base (much like a co-dependent girlfriend) that will love him for who he is and is absolutely terrified of being left to fend for themselves without him.

That is an absolutely awesome and perfect metaphor.

It fits nicely with our "battered wife/no one else could ever love us" football fanbase.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2011, 10:13:30 PM
Oh crap, do we suffer with Stockholm Syndrome in regards to Frank?   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2011, 10:13:30 PM
Oh cac, do we suffer with Stockholm Syndrome in regards to Frank?   :ohno:

It's more appropriate with Bill (who really has taken football hostage), but I think it's true of all of our coaches.

I mean we're paying Deb $700K.  For what?  Two Big 12 titles in a sport no one cares about?  God forbid we lose the winningest coach in KSU Women's Basketball History.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 10:29:52 PM

ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds
Yes, Frank Martin will be in town Saturday, as many of you know, for the Miami High Hall of Fame dinner. Let the rumors fly.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 14, 2011, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 14, 2011, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 14, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
John: Frank, will you come into my office for a second?
Frank: Sure, John. (Walks in, sits down). What is it, John?
John: I just received a phone call from Donna Shalala at the University of Miami. She asked for permission to speak with you about the Head Coaching job down there.
Frank: (Eyes perk up, voice gets more cheery) Wow, John. That comes as a surprise to me. I guess I'll have to speak with her.
John: (Bursts out laughing) Just kidding, Frank. It was actually my wife that just called. She wanted me to pick up some meat from Hy-Vee on my way home. Ah, nice, huh? OK, shouldn't you be out recruiting?

Their steaks really are pretty good for the price.  :love:

Chicken grillers. Santa Fe griller with cream cheese and black bean salsa?  :drool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 11:08:38 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/04/14/sources-milwaukees-jeter-meets-with-miami-ad/
 :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 15, 2011, 01:37:16 AM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 10:29:52 PM

ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds
Yes, Frank Martin will be in town Saturday, as many of you know, for the Miami High Hall of Fame dinner. Let the rumors fly.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
 :runaway:
oh dear
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 15, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: Benja on April 14, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 14, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
You'll have to have a very tolerable fan base (much like a co-dependent girlfriend) that will love him for who he is and is absolutely terrified of being left to fend for themselves without him.

That is an absolutely awesome and perfect metaphor.

This
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 10:29:52 PM

ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds
Yes, Frank Martin will be in town Saturday, as many of you know, for the Miami High Hall of Fame dinner. Let the rumors fly.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
 :runaway:

I wouldn't sweat it.  Frank is going to get a chance to realize there are still a lot of haters in Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jarvis_Cat on April 15, 2011, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 10:29:52 PM

ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds
Yes, Frank Martin will be in town Saturday, as many of you know, for the Miami High Hall of Fame dinner. Let the rumors fly.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
 :runaway:


Its gonna be a long weekend....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Jarvis_Cat on April 15, 2011, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 14, 2011, 10:29:52 PM

ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds
Yes, Frank Martin will be in town Saturday, as many of you know, for the Miami High Hall of Fame dinner. Let the rumors fly.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
 :runaway:


Its gonna be a long weekend....

For us or Frank?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 15, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
Quote from: theKSU on April 14, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
Currie: "I'm just gonna go ahead and check 'Needs Improvement' on the Final Four Goal. Mmmkay?"

LOL!!!  This made me chuckle hard. GREAT LINE!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.point-spreads.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fkansas-state-frank-martin.jpg&hash=f33da86f804028dfc4e1891be22fdcb234ce8b9c)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 15, 2011, 10:16:33 AM
i hope he does a line off a stripper's ass and then leaves her thong w/ "98.6" stitched on the crotch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2011, 10:18:20 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.point-spreads.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fkansas-state-frank-martin.jpg&hash=f33da86f804028dfc4e1891be22fdcb234ce8b9c)

TWO CHICKS AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!111!!1!!  :excited: :surprised: :pbj: :emawkid: :woot:11!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 15, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Even NBA players are trying to get Miami to hire Frank.

 :frown:

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-04-14/sports/fl-udonis-haslem-frank-martin-hurricanes-0414_1_frank-martin-work-ethic-heat-s-udonis-haslem
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
Can you imagine if Mike was still on the Heat!!!!???
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 15, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 15, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
Can you imagine if Mike was still on the Heat!!!!???

Beaz is EMAW, he'd tell Frank to stay with us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.point-spreads.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fkansas-state-frank-martin.jpg&hash=f33da86f804028dfc4e1891be22fdcb234ce8b9c)

double temp probe maneuver by marty.  /thread after that pic
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2011, 12:23:10 PM
You read my mind, Frank.
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

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double temp probe maneuver by marty.  /thread after that pic

gif theme....get started.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 15, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

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double temp probe maneuver by marty.  /thread after that pic

gif theme....get started.
fantastic idea, no CS4 at work though. will have to wait until later.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 15, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
hopefully, frank stays away from the strip clubs.  would hate to have another incident.

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double temp probe maneuver by marty.  /thread after that pic

gif theme....get started.
fantastic idea, no CS4 at work though. will have to wait until later.

Yep.  Get home, relax and get yourself into the right frame of mind.  Do not rush this one. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 01:01:26 PM
Guy on GPC claiming Miami contacted Marshall at Wichita State  :lol:  How does that feel Frank?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 01:01:26 PM
Guy on GPC claiming Miami contacted Marshall at Wichita State  :lol:  How does that feel Frank?

How humiliating for Frank. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2011, 02:10:58 PM
This type of thing could break his will.  He will come crawling home to our warm and comforting embrace.  Soon, he will lose the will to coach in the state of Florida.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).


louisville.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
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MIAMI -- Miami Heat forward Udonis Haslem hopes Kansas State coach Frank Martin has a shot at the Miami Hurricanes' vacant coaching position.

Haslem played for Martin at Miami High and said Friday that "if you don't at least interview Coach Frank for that job, you're making a big mistake."

Martin is 95-43 in four seasons with the Wildcats. The Miami native and Cuban immigrant will be in South Florida this weekend to be enshrined in the Miami High Hall of Fame.

New Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst says that anyone with interest in the position will be considered.

Earlier this week, Martin told The Associated Press that he "loves it" at Kansas State but may listen to offers.



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6362489
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).


louisville.

top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 02:33:35 PM
sign ideas for next year?

"my mom got an interview with Miami"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 15, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).


louisville.

top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.

If ku is a blue-blood, as they claim, UConn definitely is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 15, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 02:33:35 PM
sign ideas for next year?

"my mom got an interview with Miami"

"Hey, Frank! Miami called...everyone else!"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
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top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.

i think they both would.  he might or might not be a top candidate when either job opens, but i don't think either would eliminate him from consideration due to public relation concerns.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
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top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.

i think they both would.  he might or might not be a top candidate when either job opens, but i don't think either would eliminate him from consideration due to public relation concerns.

I don't disagree. I think he would be a long shot at both, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
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top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.

i think they both would.  he might or might not be a top candidate when either job opens, but i don't think either would eliminate him from consideration due to public relation concerns.

I don't disagree. I think he would be a long shot at both, though.

hey guys, i'm on board, i don't disagree either.  def long shot maybe.  either way, good to hear we're all on the same page.  /thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 04:58:20 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 15, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 02:33:35 PM
sign ideas for next year?

"my mom got an interview with Miami"

"Hey, Frank! Miami called...everyone else!"

"Miami is a Vice...Manhattan is a Home"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OregonSmock on April 15, 2011, 05:07:57 PM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 15, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 13, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
Frank is quite simply a coach that isn't good enough for a blue blood job but has built himself a situation that is better for him than virtually any non-blue blood job (Miami being the obvious exception, and they didn't even want to call him).


louisville.

top non-blue-blood. UConn is similar (if they aren't a blue blood). But would Louisville and UConn want Frank? I mean UL went from Denny Crum to Pitino for goodness sakes.

If ku is a blue-blood, as they claim, UConn definitely is.



I don't think you understand the term "blue blood." 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 15, 2011, 05:09:48 PM
"Bienvenido a GTFOOMF"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 05:12:31 PM
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If that last hurdle cannot be cleared then expect UM to hire a person with past UM connections. 2 other candidates out there.
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One Last Hurdle: UM and Frank Martin are very close to becoming an item. There is one last critical hurdle...will they be able to clear it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
now frank is just picking our scab left by huggins.  thanks marty.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 15, 2011, 05:47:31 PM
Let's get a coach that can actually recruit and coach an entire season. Good riddance, Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 05:48:13 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 15, 2011, 05:47:31 PM
Let's get a coach that can actually recruit and coach an entire season. Good riddance, Frank.

eff YA!  HERE WE GO!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2011, 05:49:45 PM
Warm up the Preemptive Fire Frank campaign.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 05:50:48 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
will bring back the angriest fanbase in america which has been absent for a few years so we'll have that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on April 15, 2011, 05:56:12 PM
I'm still pretty angry.  I vote we heckle Frank until he either leaves, or submits.  Kind of like breaking a wild horse I guess.  Some of those sign ideas mentioned earlier would work well for this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 15, 2011, 05:12:31 PM
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SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
If that last hurdle cannot be cleared then expect UM to hire a person with past UM connections. 2 other candidates out there.
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One Last Hurdle: UM and Frank Martin are very close to becoming an item. There is one last critical hurdle...will they be able to clear it?

i wonder if the last hurdle is how many fingers Miami will allow Frank to stick into a stripper's ass.  Don't back down, Frank.  If you want 2 then fight for it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: j-vonfeldt on April 15, 2011, 05:56:12 PM
I'm still pretty angry.  I vote we heckle Frank until he either leaves, or submits.  Kind of like breaking a wild horse I guess.  Some of those sign ideas mentioned earlier would work well for this.

wtf do you think I've been doing here for the last week?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
Quote from: j-vonfeldt on April 15, 2011, 05:56:12 PM
I'm still pretty angry.  I vote we heckle Frank until he either leaves, or submits.  Kind of like breaking a wild horse I guess.  Some of those sign ideas mentioned earlier would work well for this.

Buy in Or Quit, Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on April 15, 2011, 06:02:34 PM
I guess Frank doesn't realize that flirting with these other bitches may anger the angriest fans.

Don't mean to steal your thunder SD, but let's get this uprising started.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
How many percents now SD  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 15, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
Buy in Or Quit, Frank.

heh.  that's good, catzacker.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2011, 06:13:02 PM
WTF does becoming an item mean?  Is this BPC a chick?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
How many percents now SD  :dunno:

0%, I have this situation under control
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 06:51:12 PM
"They'll never hate you like we hate you, Frank"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
How many percents now SD  :dunno:

0%, I have this situation under control
:pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
How many percents now SD  :dunno:

0%, I have this situation under control


 :ohno:

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Names: Rob Jeter, Billy Kennedy and Frank Martin. There you go.
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
congrats on making your way into that arena of heavy weights frank, you rough ridin' doucheass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
congrats on making your way into that arena of heavy weights frank, you rough ridin' doucheass

Lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 15, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
congrats on making your way into that arena of heavy weights frank, you rough ridin' doucheass

Lol
:bawl:  :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 15, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
No need to hate on Frank too much yet.  When his contract was extended last year I personally thought it was a little on the low side in terms of market value then.  This year it appears quite a bit too low in comparison to others, so I think he really just wants Curry to up the contract this year because we might suck next year.  You can't hate him for that; it's just business.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 15, 2011, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: Deez Nutz on April 15, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
No need to hate on Frank too much yet.  When his contract was extended last year I personally thought it was a little on the low side in terms of market value then.  This year it appears quite a bit too low in comparison to others, so I think he really just wants Curry to up the contract this year because we might suck next year.  You can't hate him for that; it's just business.

I hate him because he doesn't want to coach the cats, and he's a jackass.

and also, if he leaves us he is really rough ridin' us in the ass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 15, 2011, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Names: Rob Jeter, Billy Kennedy and Frank Martin. There you go.
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there you go!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 15, 2011, 10:15:41 PM
So his competition is a couple of trash coaches from Milwaukee and Murray State? LOL at how far Frank's stock has dropped the past couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 15, 2011, 10:15:41 PM
So his competition is a couple of trash coaches from Milwaukee and Murray State? LOL at how far Frank's stock has dropped the past couple of weeks.

don't trash on frank's dream job.  there are plenty, PLENTY!, of garbage loser smelly coaches that would take this job if they had no other options and sucked at basketball coaching. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
Pretty sure that Jeter guy is related to that baseball player who married that hot chick so, he will get the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HawaiiCat on April 15, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
So, how does all of this innuendo regarding Franks interest at Miami affect his ability to recruit at K-State? If he stays, will recruits be willing to go to Manhattan to play for a guy who they've heard wants t leave for a job in Florida?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 10:48:01 PM
lol at the idea that frank gave a eff about recruiting.  omg. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 15, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
This whole situation is the eff.  :frown:  

I like Frank.  I don't wanna lose Frank.  I hope he's just looking for a raise.  He really turned this into a dumpster fire and if he stays, he's gonna have some 'splainin to do.  :dubious:

Feels like there's a girl you're with but she's not that into you but you really like her but she keeps flirting with a douchey guy that you know you're better than but the douchey guy doesn't like her so it makes you feel like you're worse than that douchey guy cause she likes him and not you so you don't wanna like her anymore...but you still like her.  Know what I mean?  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 15, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
In order to sleep at night, I fantasize that Currie is secretly in talks with some badass coach and is going to fire Frank's ungrateful ass very soon.  Enjoy your new gig as the HC at some shitty mid major Frank!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 15, 2011, 10:54:16 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 15, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: HawaiiCat on April 15, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
So, how does all of this innuendo regarding Franks interest at Miami affect his ability to recruit at K-State? If he stays, will recruits be willing to go to Manhattan to play for a guy who they've heard wants t leave for a job in Florida?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12275.msg275850#msg275850 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12275.msg275850#msg275850)

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 15, 2011, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: sys on April 15, 2011, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Names: Rob Jeter, Billy Kennedy and Frank Martin. There you go.
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there you go!

I say we hire Rob Jeter or Billy Kennedy when Frank leaves.  Anybody?   :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:20:46 PM
i've never even seen frank's birth certificate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 15, 2011, 11:25:06 PM
Goodbye Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 15, 2011, 11:27:45 PM
Maybe Currie should start a smear campaign against Frank like Lew did to Mangino. That way Frank at least goes down with the ship.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:34:12 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Names: Rob Jeter, Billy Kennedy and Frank Martin. There you go.
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:34:12 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
Names: Rob Jeter, Billy Kennedy and Frank Martin. There you go.
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
frank: I rough ridin' hate kstate, I'll take the job for nothing
donna shelalallala:  no, denied
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:43:13 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
frank: I effing hate kstate, I'll take the job for nothing
donna shelalallala:  no, denied

CLA may be looking for a coach soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:43:13 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
frank: I effing hate kstate, I'll take the job for nothing
donna shelalallala:  no, denied

CLA may be looking for a coach soon.

After we hire him?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 15, 2011, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 15, 2011, 11:43:13 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
frank: I effing hate kstate, I'll take the job for nothing
donna shelalallala:  no, denied

CLA may be looking for a coach soon.

After we hire him?

No, I'm just saying that if he's looking to get back to Miami that bad, he's got opportunities.

CLA...Miami...whatever.  A crap job is a crap job, and he's made it clear he's willing to take a pay cut.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2011, 11:59:14 PM
I won't go to another game until Currie fires that stink finger eff. 

Frank can suck my dick and buy a suit with the ten dollar bill he steals out of my back pocket.  I HATE the way you say tournament. Ass hole!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2011, 11:59:48 PM
Holy crap.  That really felt good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 16, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
... eff one. 

Miami, Kansas State, Wally Judge

Your turn Frank...

"Uhhh... I'll marry Miami, Kill KSU, and eff Wally Judge."

 :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 16, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
can you kill and eff wally and KSU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 12:09:14 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2011, 11:59:14 PM
I won't go to another game until Currie fires that stink finger eff. 

Frank can suck my dick and buy a suit with the ten dollar bill he steals out of my back pocket.  I HATE the way you say tournament. Ass hole!

eff YES, HERE WE GO!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 16, 2011, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: pike on April 16, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
can you kill and eff wally and KSU?

No, because Wally will be rough ridin' beautiful with or without Frank.  We'll get hot and swell up in the sun and then burst into a giant stink ball of rough ridin' maggots.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 16, 2011, 12:18:29 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2011, 11:59:14 PM
I won't go to another game until Currie fires that stink finger eff. 

Frank can suck my dick and buy a suit with the ten dollar bill he steals out of my back pocket.  I HATE the way you say tournament. Ass hole!

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 16, 2011, 12:20:07 AM
I'm not mad at Wally in the least.  That poor bastard had to deal with Frank mind-rough ridin' him for 2 yrs.  God speed Wally!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 16, 2011, 01:07:38 AM
Which will be a better outcome?

1.) Frank ends speculation after he's denied and says "They never called me"

2.) Frank leaves easter weekend, JC is pissed hires oscar Pearl

 :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 16, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
oscar Pearl, no question.  We really need to start a grassroots "eff Frank" movement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on April 16, 2011, 02:51:16 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 16, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
oscar Pearl, no question.  We really need to start a grassroots "eff Frank" movement.

I shouted it as I went by Vanier tonight.  Snyds was out there and gave me a thumbs up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 16, 2011, 06:40:54 AM
frank is awesome for pursuing his dream job so aggressively.  i respect the hell out of that.  plus, i can understand his preference in some way.  for that kind of money, i would definitely choose miami over manhattan.  the major difference for me is that my hometown is manhattan. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2011, 06:41:31 AM
Quote from: j-vonfeldt on April 16, 2011, 02:51:16 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 16, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
oscar Pearl, no question.  We really need to start a grassroots "eff Frank" movement.

I shouted it as I went by Vanier tonight.  Snyds was out there and gave me a thumbs up.

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 15, 2011, 11:20:46 PM
i've never even seen frank's birth certificate.

SD, let's keep Frank's mexican-ess out of the conversation.  it has no place in the discussion.  i'm sure they gave him some kind of card or certificate when he got off the boat.  it's a non issue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 16, 2011, 06:40:54 AM
frank is awesome for pursuing his dream job so aggressively.  i respect the hell out of that.  plus, i can understand his preference in some way.  for that kind of money, i would definitely choose miami over manhattan.  the major difference for me is that my hometown is manhattan. 

It real is pretty amazing to watch. Did you see the udonis haslem article? Frank is basically pi'ING Miami into hiring him. It is going to  work.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 16, 2011, 09:32:57 AM
Quote from: wiley on April 16, 2011, 01:07:38 AM
Which will be a better outcome?

1.) Frank ends speculation after he's denied and says "They never called me"

2.) Frank leaves easter weekend, JC is pissed hires oscar Pearl

 :ck:

3.) Pearls struts into Manhattan with a killer tan and a dazzling Easter suit.  Changes the locks on the basketball offices and starts calling every committed recruit he pleases.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 16, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
Got to give the son of a bitch props, he knew how to play all the tards, tucks, and EMAWer's, and he will give old Donna the stinky finger and play her for HIS job. eff him, he didn't get us to the final 4 this year....so eff him, I'm all for the oscar Pearl campaign.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 16, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
scorned lover bit was all too predictable. expected more out of goEMAW.
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 16, 2011, 10:44:27 AM
BSAC just sent me a text "pearl diving"

Now, he could literally be diving for pearls so I don't know what to make of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 16, 2011, 11:00:54 AM
Shouldn't someone get started on a "Hire oscar Pearl" website?  Does John like Cabelas?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 16, 2011, 10:44:27 AM
BSAC just sent me a text "pearl diving"

Now, he could literally be diving for pearls so I don't know what to make of it.

I don't know. My wife is in Bahrain right now and assures me it is not optimal pearl diving weather.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 16, 2011, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: j-dub on April 16, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
scorned lover bit was all too predictable. expected more out of goEMAW.
 :dubious:


meh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 16, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
Miami told Frank his name doesn't sound Cuban enough.

If hired, he agreed to change it to Francisco Martinez.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 16, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
Miami told Frank his name doesn't sound Cuban enough.

If hired, he agreed to change it to Francisco Martinez.

and j rake makes his triumphant return to the coaching carousel thread!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 16, 2011, 05:08:17 PM
Cassidy guaranteed about an hour ago that Frank stays and Angel signs Tuesday.  NKJF.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:19:31 PM
LOI didn't even get to Miami until friday  :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 16, 2011, 05:25:08 PM
Quote
Papa Cane
SaveUMFootball Papa Cane
One Last Hurdle: UM and Frank Martin are very close to becoming an item. There is one last critical hurdle...will they be able to clear it?

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
http://miami.247sports.com/Board/92/Frank-Martin-Update-1897845

someone sign up for trial
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
http://miami.247sports.com/Board/92/Frank-Martin-Update-1897845

someone sign up for trial

according to powerespect who is NOT going to breach the no premium from another forum rule by copying/pasting the thread contents  :dubious:

Quote
actually read the whole thing, said he'll ( the moderator , not Martin ) receive word on Sunday or Monday if Miami is going to bring him in, which i can only interpret as asking to bring him in for an interview. So at this point Miami still hasn't even inquired for an interview. That's the jist of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
http://miami.247sports.com/Board/92/Frank-Martin-Update-1897845

someone sign up for trial

according to powerespect who is NOT going to breach the no premium from another forum rule by copying/pasting the thread contents  :dubious:

Quote
actually read the whole thing, said he'll ( the moderator , not Martin ) receive word on Sunday or Monday if Miami is going to bring him in, which i can only interpret as asking to bring him in for an interview. So at this point Miami still hasn't even inquired for an interview. That's the jist of it.

Miami is absolutely owning frank in the early parts of this negotiation. Frank will be paying them for the opp to coach there by the time this thing is finally over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 06:36:28 PM
So, Frank's going to get his interview afterall.

Hmmmmm...




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 06:36:28 PM
So, Frank's going to get his interview afterall.

Hmmmmm...






They are going to hire him. They were the whole time. They just want to pay as little as possible. Frank is basically begging and pleading for the job now. They have him right where they want him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 06:36:28 PM
So, Frank's going to get his interview afterall.

Hmmmmm...


They are going to hire him. They were the whole time. They just want to pay as little as possible. Frank is basically begging and pleading for the job now. They have him right where they want him.

Yeah, he weakened his negotiation position pretty early on.

I expect he ultimately will go for a contract around 1.3 a year at the end of the day and Delonte will take a huge cut or will move along to another staff.  crap, they were going to pay Amaker 1.1 over 5 years.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 16, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
http://miami.247sports.com/Board/92/Frank-Martin-Update-1897845

someone sign up for trial

according to powerespect who is NOT going to breach the no premium from another forum rule by copying/pasting the thread contents  :dubious:

Quote
actually read the whole thing, said he'll ( the moderator , not Martin ) receive word on Sunday or Monday if Miami is going to bring him in, which i can only interpret as asking to bring him in for an interview. So at this point Miami still hasn't even inquired for an interview. That's the jist of it.

Miami is absolutely owning frank in the early parts of this negotiation. Frank will be paying them for the opp to coach there by the time this thing is finally over.

qft.  frank's going to show up and miami's going to be all "so, umm, frank, did you bring your $100 new applicant fee?".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.

not for me.  frank can go f*ck himself. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.

not for me.  frank can go f*ck himself. 

Yeah, but then I think about what happens, you know, after.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 16, 2011, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.

not for me.  frank can go f*ck himself. 

some of you are worse than squawks.  are you going to make a Benedict Martin shirt?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 16, 2011, 07:20:45 PM
So are there any martinites left?  I still want to be a martinite.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
Quote from: nicname on April 16, 2011, 07:20:45 PM
So are there any martinites left?  I still want to be a martinite.

I'm very conflicted about this. I went from remembering _fan threads to remembering michcat threads (have not progressed to dax threads yet).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 16, 2011, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: nicname on April 16, 2011, 07:20:45 PM
So are there any martinites left?  I still want to be a martinite.

I love frank. He's great. Who doesn't like him is a better question. I can't think of anyone.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 07:26:06 PM
Still love Frank.  This hurts tremendously.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.

not for me.  frank can go f*ck himself. 

Yeah, but then I think about what happens, you know, after.

we go back to sucking.*

*unless currie grows a pair of balls and hires pearl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 16, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
He's amazing but he's going to turn in his EMAW card, his beard, and his boots soon.  Once that happens... He's the enemy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 16, 2011, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:33:52 PM

we go back to sucking.

That'll happen with or without Frank.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 16, 2011, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:33:52 PM

we go back to sucking.

That'll happen with or without Frank.


don't take your anger towards josh out on ksu.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 16, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Rob just posted on GPC that Angel isn't going to sign until Tuesday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 16, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 16, 2011, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 16, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
This whole situation has triggered a lot of conflicting emotions.

not for me.  frank can go f*ck himself. 

some of you are worse than squawks.  are you going to make a Benedict Martin shirt?

I'd buy one
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 16, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Rob just posted on GPC that Angel isn't going to sign until Tuesday.

i'm sure they're just looking for a pen.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Really like Frank . . . hate his mail it in Recruiting.

Oh well, we're on the verge of being Kruger'ed.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Really like Frank . . . hate his mail it in Recruiting.

Oh well, we're on the verge of being Kruger'ed.


...and we're the cheerleader(s)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
jfc.  I imagine frank standing outside the Miami AD's office holding up a jam box like john cusak.  just leave frank.

Quote
ByTimReynolds
.Miami HS BKB coach Shakey Rodriguez, on Frank Martin-Miami overtures: "There should never be any hesitation. He shouldn't even have to ask." 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 16, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
jfc.  I imagine frank standing outside the Miami AD's office holding up a jam box like john cusak.  just leave frank.

Quote
ByTimReynolds
.Miami HS BKB coach Shakey Rodriguez, on Frank Martin-Miami overtures: "There should never be any hesitation. He shouldn't even have to ask." 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck


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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (NOW FEATURING THE KSU CATS!)
« Reply #2271 on: April 14, 2011, 07:11:25 AM »
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Somebody needs to do one with Frank in front of the U admin building with a boom box.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 16, 2011, 08:43:55 PM
'grats dax  :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:51:09 PM
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ByTimReynolds: Frank Martin going on 20 minutes in his Miami High Hall of Fame address. One cryptic reference to the job "down the street here."
half a minute ago via TweetDeck

can't believe that mongoloid can even talk for 20 minutes.  i'd imagine lots of small words.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 16, 2011, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:51:09 PM
Quote
ByTimReynolds: Frank Martin going on 20 minutes in his Miami High Hall of Fame address. One cryptic reference to the job "down the street here."
half a minute ago via TweetDeck

can't believe that mongoloid can even talk for 20 minutes.  i'd imagine lots of small words.

I vote for warming up the "fire Frank" campaign. If he stays at KSU, he'll be as useful as Mark Mangino would have been had he lasted another year at KU.

Goodbye, Frank. You ass rough rider.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Quote
ByTimReynolds
.He's now going on a rant on how he loathes sports writers.


what a POS human being.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 08:55:48 PM
Honestly I would like to just see this situation be done and over with.  If Frank is going to leave just leave already already be fore he screws around so long the late signing period is over and screws us over no recruit wants to come to a place that isnt sure who there coach is going to be the next yr just get on with it already!!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2011, 08:56:28 PM
Any word on if his speech was in spanish?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
Love Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 16, 2011, 09:05:57 PM
Really?  Needed a new thread for this, huh?  Take it to the rough ridin' Carousel thread.  This isn't GPC.  :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 16, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
SD  :dunno:  :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 16, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 16, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Rob just posted on GPC that Angel isn't going to sign until Tuesday.

Which basically aligns with the date Miami will decide to or not to interview Frank.

All the dots are starting to connect with his little trip down there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 16, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Quote
ByTimReynolds
He's now going on a rant on how he loathes sports writers.


that's fantastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 16, 2011, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 16, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
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ByTimReynolds
Miami HS BKB coach Shakey Rodriguez, on Frank Martin-Miami overtures: "There should never be any hesitation. He shouldn't even have to ask." 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck


sounds like sr-? is gearing up for an all-miami recruiting boycott for the hurricanes.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 16, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!

weird post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 16, 2011, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!
:confused:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 16, 2011, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!
:ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 16, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
I've finally come to closure on this.  Could care less if he stays or goes.

If he stays, I'll like him less.  I don't think there's any way I can't.  I mean, I'll get over it, but still.  It won't ever be the same.

If he goes, I'm interested to see John Currie lead a coaching search.

Regardless, I'm going to love seeing how the fans react to him if he does come back.  There are a few awkward nut fry's in his future.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Andy on April 16, 2011, 11:22:21 PM
it never ends well when coaches flirt with other jobs and end up staying.  they either end up leaving anyway a few years later (roy, m.anderson) or start to suck (dana altman, glen mason). 

currie should probably tell frank he's done if he takes an interview...kinda like boston college did with their coach a few years ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 16, 2011, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 16, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
I've finally come to closure on this.  Could care less if he stays or goes.

If he stays, I'll like him less.  I don't think there's any way I can't.  I mean, I'll get over it, but still.  It won't ever be the same.

If he goes, I'm interested to see John Currie lead a coaching search.

Regardless, I'm going to love seeing how the fans react to him if he does come back.  There are a few awkward nut fry's in his future.
Pretty much exactly how I feel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 16, 2011, 11:41:40 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 16, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
I've finally come to closure on this.  Could care less if he stays or goes.

If he stays, I'll like him less.  I don't think there's any way I can't.  I mean, I'll get over it, but still.  It won't ever be the same.

If he goes, I'm interested to see John Currie lead a coaching search.

Regardless, I'm going to love seeing how the fans react to him if he does come back.  There are a few awkward nut fry's in his future.

Most of the tucks have zero idea how this is playing out.  He'll still be their favorite mexican.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 16, 2011, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 16, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
I've finally come to closure on this.  Could care less if he stays or goes.

If he stays, I'll like him less.  I don't think there's any way I can't.  I mean, I'll get over it, but still.  It won't ever be the same.

If he goes, I'm interested to see John Currie lead a coaching search.

Regardless, I'm going to love seeing how the fans react to him if he does come back.  There are a few awkward nut fry's in his future.

Exactly how I feel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:08:58 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 16, 2011, 11:22:21 PM
it never ends well when coaches flirt with other jobs and end up staying.  they either end up leaving anyway a few years later (roy, m.anderson) or start to suck (dana altman, glen mason).  

currie should probably tell frank he's done if he takes an interview...kinda like boston college did with their coach a few years ago.

Agree. Everyone thought the BC athletic director was nuts, but really he was just smart in foreseeing  what would happen if he stayed. Doesn't sit well with recruits, fan support, etc when it's a known fact that your coach is trying to GTFO.


edit:  :curse: at the whole situation
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2011, 12:16:36 AM
Are you anti-Frankites mad that he wants to have the same job he has now but in rough ridin' Miami and with no John Currie, or because he's let you know it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:23:29 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 17, 2011, 12:16:36 AM
Are you anti-Frankites mad that he wants to have the same job he has now but in rough ridin' Miami and with no John Currie, or because he's let you know it?

The same job of basketball coach, at the U who's bball program is 10 times worse than Nebraska's, and royally rough ridin' us over for God knows how long.

I can foresee powertards and goemawtards alike saying "Wow Frank just knocked of #1 Duke at the U!!! Good for him!!!" while our program sinks back to the Wooly days cause we're the last school on the coaching carousel and get stuck with some shitty bad person. I would/will curse Frank and Miami as long as I'm an EMAW, which will likely be a long time.

Plenty of reasons to be mad, mind you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 17, 2011, 12:16:36 AM
Are you anti-Frankites mad that he wants to have the same job he has now but in effing Miami and with no John Currie, or because he's let you know it?

Public pining for a job you're unlikely to get (and I'm still not 100% convinced he does want an offer; just so butthurt he's not wanted) is just tacky.

It's not that he's lobbying for the job, or he's being open about it, but more how his public begging is just so pathetic and reeks of desperation for whatever end he's trying to achieve.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2011, 12:33:28 AM
WGAF if he looks like a clown right now?  This isn't the first time and won't be the last.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 17, 2011, 12:33:28 AM
WGAF if he looks like a clown right now?  This isn't the first time and won't be the last.

Yeah but this is like the John Wayne Gacy of clowning, and his 30 victims is the University of Kansas State.


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freeinfosociety.com%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F1135.jpg&hash=352b0d362e636b048f477609ca712c93f9d73cdc)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 01:03:46 AM
"hi.  i'd like to thank miami senior for inviting me back for some unknown award thing, and thank you all for coming out tonight.  it feels great to be back in stingaree country!

you know.  there's been a lot of of talk about the job down the street and how happy i am in manhattan, kansas where there is a cuban restaurant (go stingarees!), but i might still be just ol' coach and math teacher paco martin here at miami senior if it hadn't been for the miami new times and their meddling reporters.  and you know, i think i might be just as happy if i were still a stingaree!

but seriously, people, that brings me to what i really want to talk about tonight, something i'm very passionate about, and that's how much i hate sportswriters..."

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
Assuming we can get a decent coach, I want him to leave.  I'm all for whatever makes things entertaining.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on April 17, 2011, 03:06:45 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
Assuming we can get a decent coach, I want him to leave. 

Myself, John Currie, SD, and Catzacker agree with you, but without the decent coach stipulation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
I'm all for whatever makes things entertaining.

after the winning>>>>>>drama post above, i thought to myself that, for all of the success texas football football and basketball have had recently, being a texas fan must be dullsville compared with being a kstate fan.  same crap year after year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 17, 2011, 06:54:52 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
I'm all for whatever makes things entertaining.

after the winning>>>>>>drama post above, i thought to myself that, for all of the success texas football football and basketball have had recently, being a texas fan must be dullsville compared with being a kstate fan.  same crap year after year.

I don't know, I'd imagine the meltdowns would be pretty fantastic
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 17, 2011, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 01:03:46 AM
"hi.  i'd like to thank miami senior for inviting me back for some unknown award thing, and thank you all for coming out tonight.  it feels great to be back in stingaree country!

you know.  there's been a lot of of talk about the job down the street and how happy i am in manhattan, kansas where there is a cuban restaurant (go stingarees!), but i might still be just ol' coach and math teacher paco martin here at miami senior if it hadn't been for the miami new times and their meddling reporters.  and you know, i think i might be just as happy if i were still a stingaree!

but seriously, people, that brings me to what i really want to talk about tonight, something i'm very passionate about, and that's how much i hate sportswriters..."



lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SleepFighter on April 17, 2011, 09:21:29 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
I'm all for whatever makes things entertaining.

after the winning>>>>>>drama post above, i thought to myself that, for all of the success texas football football and basketball have had recently, being a texas fan must be dullsville compared with being a kstate fan.  same crap year after year.

Yeah, the waters have been calm as glass here in Austin over the last year or so.  Might as well call this town "the reflecting pool".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 17, 2011, 09:51:55 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 17, 2011, 06:54:52 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 17, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
I'm all for whatever makes things entertaining.

after the winning>>>>>>drama post above, i thought to myself that, for all of the success texas football football and basketball have had recently, being a texas fan must be dullsville compared with being a kstate fan.  same crap year after year.

I don't know, I'd imagine the meltdowns would be pretty fantastic

The meltdown for football last year and for basketball the last two years was probably awesome.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 17, 2011, 09:58:39 AM
My dream scenario: Miami hires that dude from Milwaukee and then Currie fires Frank a day later.

It'd be the first time an AD essentially said to a successful coach, "You don't have all the power."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
Love Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 17, 2011, 09:58:39 AM
My dream scenario: Miami hires that dude from Milwaukee and then Currie fires Frank a day later.

It'd be the first time an AD essentially said to a successful coach, "You don't have all the power."

It won't happen, but the countdown clock has officially started.  Frank will not be coaching here in three years.  He may be here after next season because the team will probably be down, but one way or the other, Frank won't be here much longer.

This has drug out too long, and Currie has to be absolutely fuming to see our coach opine for the Miami job, which in all reality is a crap gig.  It's bad PR.

I'd say the odds that Currie and Pearl have already had some form of communication are probably pretty high.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 17, 2011, 09:58:39 AM
My dream scenario: Miami hires that dude from Milwaukee and then Currie fires Frank a day later.

It'd be the first time an AD essentially said to a successful coach, "You don't have all the power."

only if he hired oscar pearl on the same day.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!

Wrong board, bro.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 17, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: tbaird on April 16, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Hey guess what rams lick my sweaty nut sack you cac sacker!!!! bahahahahah  your prob. a guy who claims to be a fan thats never played a sport in your life go figure!!!

Wrong board, bro.   


He should be directed to www.gopowercat.com (http://www.gopowercat.com).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CrushNasty on April 17, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Guys, I love Frank. 

But if we get Pearl out of this, we are better off.  Although, oscar would probably get upset his tan isn't pristine year round and heads for Pepperdine after a few years.

So if we get Pearl, even for just a few years, that's what I want.   If no Pearl, I want Frank.  I can get over this ordeal, it's business.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 16, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
SD  :dunno:  :cry:

0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 17, 2011, 10:52:31 AM
oscar Pearl is contaminated. It would be fun and hilarious and I'd love to see the guy in a purple jacket.

But he's contaminated. Unhireable. At least for a year or two.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2011, 10:59:53 AM
Quote
Anyway, it seems like all is well. There's probably no need to worry at this point.

-rob@gpc

 :lol:


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 17, 2011, 11:13:35 AM
BHHCFM...butt hurt head coach Frank..
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 17, 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.
Me too. I'm not near as butt hurt as Frank is. I'm a little embarrassed for him, but I don't dislike him now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 17, 2011, 11:56:55 AM
so he's staying?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 17, 2011, 12:05:10 PM
once we all go through another shitty football season, we won't remember any of this crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipshits are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 


This. He's making everyone look bad in this except Miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 12:46:22 PM
if you're butthurt over this, it means that you badly want a coach who will love you and want to be with you forever and are pretty much a giant rough ridin' powerespect.  

if you think frank is butthurt, it probably also means you're a giant rough ridin' powerespect because you can't even comprehend that he wants to leave you for someone else and is doing what he needs to do to make it happen.  

somewhere in the transition from ksufans to goEMAW, tucks became the enemy instead of powertards and this place is now full of powertards.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 

This. He's making everyone look bad in this except Miami

it's not about making people look bad, at least not directly.  it's knowing that a large portion of the fan base was going to get pissed about this, thus giving dipsh*t currie leverage and further deepening the divide between him and frank which will ultimately lead to frank walking out the door (before he might have otherwise) and at that point, unless pearl is available, I have zero faith in currie hiring anyone worth a sh*t and then we got back to playing on the first day of the big 12 tourney. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 


This. He's making everyone look bad in this except Miami

yup. I'm dreading the hell i'm gonna catch from KU and Nub fans at work. They're just pointing and laughing at little 'ole kstate. jfc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Quote from: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 


This. He's making everyone look bad in this except Miami

It's not really butthurt.  He's begging for a crap job, and it's bad PR.

Basically, it's putting our job on a level with a program that completely shut down their basketball program for a while within the last few decades.  I know some people around here will try to say that they are equal jobs (they aren't) because Miami is great (which it's not) and Manhattan sucks (which isn't completely true), but if you polled a bunch of coaches and put the two jobs on paper, I'd bet you a significant majority would rather coach here.

Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a crap about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.

I don't think anyone here really wants or expects a coach that will just fall in love with Kansas State and spurn all other opportunities because they just love it here so much.  I think most people would just prefer their coach not do everything but offer to suck dick for a crap job all over the damn media.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:03:03 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: pike on April 17, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
i dunno, maybe im in the minority...but this really won't change how i look at Frank. I mean, wgaf.

Yeah, a bunch of dipcacs are acting like they didn't know Frank was from Miami or that he says stupid things sometimes. I mean, who could be butthurt over him exploring the Miami job? I mean honestly.

i could have done w/out the public begging. 


This. He's making everyone look bad in this except Miami

yup. I'm dreading the hell i'm gonna catch from KU and Nub fans at work. They're just pointing and laughing at little 'ole kstate. jfc.

I don't care about that at all.

I'm just really looking forward to Currie having to pound the pavement and try to get more money/donations for the program after all of this.  You know Frank won't even attempt to rationalize or justify this to the tucks.  It's just going to make things awkward for a while.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a crap about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:03:03 PM
You know Frank won't even attempt to rationalize or justify this to the tucks.

he will blame it on sportwriters and 80% of the active fanbase will believe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a crap about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.

I don't think anyone here really wants or expects a coach that will just fall in love with Kansas State and spurn all other opportunities because they just love it here so much.  I think most people would just prefer their coach not do everything but offer to suck dick for a crap job all over the damn media.

It hasn't been "all over the damn media" or "whore yourself to every outlet" though, right? Just Brando, and old balls Doug Tucker. Who knows what Frank is actually thinking. All speculation at this point. Miami taking its sweet time right now is the only thing making this whole deal a bitch. Just overreaction(great bbs'ing) is all it is, imo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

 :jerk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.

I don't think anyone here really wants or expects a coach that will just fall in love with Kansas State and spurn all other opportunities because they just love it here so much.  I think most people would just prefer their coach not do everything but offer to suck dick for a cac job all over the damn media.

It hasn't been "all over the damn media" or "whore yourself to every outlet" though, right? Just Brando, and old balls Doug Tucker. Who knows what Frank is actually thinking. All speculation at this point. Miami taking its sweet time right now is the only thing making this whole deal a bitch. Just overreaction(great bbs'ing) is all it is, imo.

Rome brought it up, there are all of the tweets from various sportswriters with quotes from Haslem, Shakey, etc.

Frank doesn't have to be the one doing all of the talking.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

I'm sure they are just fine with what frank has done. He wasted a little goodwill and negotiating power, but no one wants him gone. This isn't some out of the blue disaster. If it was NC State or DePaul he was lobbying for, you might have a point. But it isn't so you don't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.

I don't think anyone here really wants or expects a coach that will just fall in love with Kansas State and spurn all other opportunities because they just love it here so much.  I think most people would just prefer their coach not do everything but offer to suck dick for a cac job all over the damn media.

It hasn't been "all over the damn media" or "whore yourself to every outlet" though, right? Just Brando, and old balls Doug Tucker. Who knows what Frank is actually thinking. All speculation at this point. Miami taking its sweet time right now is the only thing making this whole deal a bitch. Just overreaction(great bbs'ing) is all it is, imo.

Rome brought it up, there are all of the tweets from various sportswriters with quotes from Haslem, Shakey, etc.

Frank doesn't have to be the one doing all of the talking.

Well, if Frank was actually telling all his friends to put all that stuff out there, then i guess he deserves some crap come his way. But there is no way to know for sure. I think those people would talk no matter what.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
Well, if Frank was actually telling all his friends to put all that stuff out there, then i guess he deserves some crap come his way. But there is no way to know for sure. I think those people would talk no matter what.

ww, come on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:29:11 PM
I just wish Frank would use Haslem for recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

I'm sure they are just fine with what frank has done. He wasted a little goodwill and negotiating power, but no one wants him gone. This isn't some out of the blue disaster. If it was NC State or DePaul he was lobbying for, you might have a point. But it isn't so you don't.

I agree with everything you said with the exception of this.  I don't know how Currie could be okay with this.

I doubt that when they had their "annual review", Currie said, "Sure, you can pretty much say whatever you want to the media in an attempt to get the Miami job.  Don't worry; when I go out to get high dollar donations, and they wonder about the commitment of our coach when they pledge several hundred thousand dollars, I'll smooth it over."

I know Frank loves Miami and probably wants to go home.  And I'm perfectly fine with him doing everything in his power to get that job through appropriate channels.  But if he has to resort to lobbying for the job through the media, someone should counsel him that it's not going to happen, and he doesn't need to put himself in a bad situation here.  All he's doing is hurting himself in contract negotiations, donor conversations, and recruiting because his commitment to the university will be in question.  Some people (us) will realize that this is an exception (even if we disagree on whether or not it should be), but that's not the way that it's going to be perceived by many.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:03:03 PM
You know Frank won't even attempt to rationalize or justify this to the tucks.

he will blame it on sportwriters and 80% of the active fanbase will believe.

Glossed over this.  My bad.  Very good point/observation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 17, 2011, 02:50:21 PM
There was a story a couple years ago about Frank that mentioned his son from his first marriage visiting during Christmas vacation and how badly Frank felt when he had to send him home to Miami, in part because of his relationship his own father. Thought at the time, Frank would do anything to get back there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

I'm sure they are just fine with what frank has done. He wasted a little goodwill and negotiating power, but no one wants him gone. This isn't some out of the blue disaster. If it was NC State or DePaul he was lobbying for, you might have a point. But it isn't so you don't.

I agree with everything you said with the exception of this.  I don't know how Currie could be okay with this.

I doubt that when they had their "annual review", Currie said, "Sure, you can pretty much say whatever you want to the media in an attempt to get the Miami job.  Don't worry; when I go out to get high dollar donations, and they wonder about the commitment of our coach when they pledge several hundred thousand dollars, I'll smooth it over."

I know Frank loves Miami and probably wants to go home.  And I'm perfectly fine with him doing everything in his power to get that job through appropriate channels.  But if he has to resort to lobbying for the job through the media, someone should counsel him that it's not going to happen, and he doesn't need to put himself in a bad situation here.  All he's doing is hurting himself in contract negotiations, donor conversations, and recruiting because his commitment to the university will be in question.  Some people (us) will realize that this is an exception (even if we disagree on whether or not it should be), but that's not the way that it's going to be perceived by many.

Currie is smart enough to realize ksu is not a destination job and can spin this to donors in many ways. The notion that ksu isn't a destination job seems to only be a surprise to you and a few butthurt tucks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

I'm sure they are just fine with what frank has done. He wasted a little goodwill and negotiating power, but no one wants him gone. This isn't some out of the blue disaster. If it was NC State or DePaul he was lobbying for, you might have a point. But it isn't so you don't.

I agree with everything you said with the exception of this.  I don't know how Currie could be okay with this.

I doubt that when they had their "annual review", Currie said, "Sure, you can pretty much say whatever you want to the media in an attempt to get the Miami job.  Don't worry; when I go out to get high dollar donations, and they wonder about the commitment of our coach when they pledge several hundred thousand dollars, I'll smooth it over."

I know Frank loves Miami and probably wants to go home.  And I'm perfectly fine with him doing everything in his power to get that job through appropriate channels.  But if he has to resort to lobbying for the job through the media, someone should counsel him that it's not going to happen, and he doesn't need to put himself in a bad situation here.  All he's doing is hurting himself in contract negotiations, donor conversations, and recruiting because his commitment to the university will be in question.  Some people (us) will realize that this is an exception (even if we disagree on whether or not it should be), but that's not the way that it's going to be perceived by many.

Currie is smart enough to realize ksu is not a destination job and can spin this to donors in many ways. The notion that ksu isn't a destination job seems to only be a surprise to you and a few butthurt tucks.

Find one place in this thread where I said KSU was a destination job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
Well, if Frank was actually telling all his friends to put all that stuff out there, then i guess he deserves some crap come his way. But there is no way to know for sure. I think those people would talk no matter what.

ww, come on.

i tried man, I just can't get worked up over this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 17, 2011, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 12:46:22 PM
if you're butthurt over this, it means that you badly want a coach who will love you and want to be with you forever and are pretty much a giant rough ridin' powerespect.  

if you think frank is butthurt, it probably also means you're a giant rough ridin' powerespect because you can't even comprehend that he wants to leave you for someone else and is doing what he needs to do to make it happen.  

somewhere in the transition from ksufans to goEMAW, tucks became the enemy instead of powertards and this place is now full of powertards.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 02:01:02 PM
Frank can go explore other jobs all he wants.  And I get that Miami is where he's from, and it holds a special place in his heart, blah, blah, etc.  But to publicly whore yourself to every outlet that will listen for a school that A) doesn't give a cac about basketball and B) doesn't want you is kind of bad PR for your institution.


Hey jackass. He's only begging for Miami. That's all he's ever begged for and it's probably all he'll ever beg for. And everyone knows frank is from miami so they know why he's interested and won't look down on poor wittle ksu. Get over your lame self.

I'm sure John Currie and the rest of the big money folks are totally fine with this justification.

I don't care if he's a basketball coach or an accountant.  You can't openly beg for other jobs and not expect some form of negative feedback, no matter what the circumstance.

I'm sure they are just fine with what frank has done. He wasted a little goodwill and negotiating power, but no one wants him gone. This isn't some out of the blue disaster. If it was NC State or DePaul he was lobbying for, you might have a point. But it isn't so you don't.

I agree with everything you said with the exception of this.  I don't know how Currie could be okay with this.

I doubt that when they had their "annual review", Currie said, "Sure, you can pretty much say whatever you want to the media in an attempt to get the Miami job.  Don't worry; when I go out to get high dollar donations, and they wonder about the commitment of our coach when they pledge several hundred thousand dollars, I'll smooth it over."

I know Frank loves Miami and probably wants to go home.  And I'm perfectly fine with him doing everything in his power to get that job through appropriate channels.  But if he has to resort to lobbying for the job through the media, someone should counsel him that it's not going to happen, and he doesn't need to put himself in a bad situation here.  All he's doing is hurting himself in contract negotiations, donor conversations, and recruiting because his commitment to the university will be in question.  Some people (us) will realize that this is an exception (even if we disagree on whether or not it should be), but that's not the way that it's going to be perceived by many.

Currie is smart enough to realize ksu is not a destination job and can spin this to donors in many ways. The notion that ksu isn't a destination job seems to only be a surprise to you and a few butthurt tucks.

Find one place in this thread where I said KSU was a destination job.

Everything you posts sounds like someone who was under the delusion that it was. If you realized KSU wasn't a destination job previously, you would understand what is going on and wouldn't be so goddam butthurt.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 17, 2011, 03:27:51 PM
So, like as of 3:26 on Sunday is he staying or going?  I am trying to keep up, but sometimes it is hard.  Did anything new happen to add an entire page to the thread since this morning?

TIA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 17, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
No better tanning in Knoxville then in Manhattan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 03:21:51 PM
Everything you posts sounds like someone who was under the delusion that it was. If you realized KSU wasn't a destination job previously, you would understand what is going on and wouldn't be so goddam butthurt.

I'm pretty sure that I understand what's going on, and I'm not personally butt hurt.  If he stays, fine.  If he goes, fine.  I've posted that exact phrase in the last couple of days.

I understand that he's doing everything in his power to try and get this job, or force Currie into a negotiation, or position himself into a better situation, regardless of whatever that may be.  Coaches do that.  I get it.  But what I said, and will continue to say, is that he should have seen the writing on the wall a week ago when they wanted to bring in Tommy Amaker and realized it wasn't going to happen (and it's still not going to happen), resign himself to it, and not make his current situation worse before starting a mini-political campaign to get himself the opportunity to interview, let alone get the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
ww, come on.

i tried man, I just can't get worked up over this.

c'mon, don't be delusional.  not c'mon, get worked up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
ww, come on.

i tried man, I just can't get worked up over this.

c'mon, don't be delusional.  not c'mon, get worked up.


if you want to assume something so it fits your thinking/agenda, go ahead.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
if you want to assume something so it fits your thinking/agenda, go ahead.

i don't have an agenda.  i just consider it ludicrous to hold the idea that martin was willing to publicly embarrass himself and his employer by personally lobbying for the miami job, but was uninvolved in his friends dropping on-message hints that cost them and him nothing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
if you want to assume something so it fits your thinking/agenda, go ahead.

i don't have an agenda.  i just consider it ludicrous to hold the idea that martin was willing to publicly embarrass himself and his employer by personally lobbying for the miami job, but was uninvolved in his friends dropping on-message hints that cost them and him nothing.

you don't think Martin can be a bumbling idiot to reporters?? The guy has no filter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
you don't think Martin can be a bumbling idiot to reporters?? The guy has no filter.

i think there are a very few occasions (all postgame, afaik) where he becomes irate with a question, or his perception of a question, and says something that he might not otherwise.  in all other interviews, he has a very aggressive filter on and controls the flow of information as much as any other coach.

i don't think he's ever a bumbling idiot with reporters, he generally has them eating out of his hand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2011, 05:06:45 PM
Pan,

TrimGoPowercat told me to tell you "eff you" regarding your position on how one goes about lobbying for a job.

T-Y,

TrimGoEMAW
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 03:40:29 PM
I understand that he's doing everything in his power to try and get this job, or force Currie into a negotiation, or position himself into a better situation, regardless of whatever that may be.  Coaches do that.  I get it.  But what I said, and will continue to say, is that he should have seen the writing on the wall a week ago when they wanted to bring in Tommy Amaker and realized it wasn't going to happen (and it's still not going to happen), resign himself to it, and not make his current situation worse before starting a mini-political campaign to get himself the opportunity to interview, let alone get the job.

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU. Everyone already thought KSU was a shitty job to begin with. Frank isn't doing anything to make it worse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
like, imo, whether frank was or wasn't lobbying for the job is irrelevant.  what's relevant is that a large percentage of the fan base thinks he was/is.  so, like, regardless of whether you think that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or not, that's kind of how it is.  and there'll be unintended (or intended) consequences in the future because of it.  that is what has me butthurt.  maybe I'm exaggerating or miscalculating the repercussions, dunno.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 03:40:29 PM
But what I said, and will continue to say, is that he should have seen the writing on the wall a week ago when they wanted to bring in Tommy Amaker and realized it wasn't going to happen (and it's still not going to happen), resign himself to it, and not make his current situation worse before starting a mini-political campaign to get himself the opportunity to interview, let alone get the job.

it could happen.  stranger things have certainly happened.  so, why not go for it balls to the wall if you're him?  you're suggesting that frank adopt a loser's mentality.  he's not a loser.  he's very successful.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
like, imo, whether frank was or wasn't lobbying for the job is irrelevant.  what's relevant is that a large percentage of the fan base thinks he was/is.  

Do the really think this?  And a large percentage of them?  I agree with whoever said earlier that hardly anyone is paying any attention to this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2011, 05:47:50 PM
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The guy with the cupcake represents most of our fanbase. They have no rough ridin' clue what's going on behind their backs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
like, imo, whether frank was or wasn't lobbying for the job is irrelevant.  what's relevant is that a large percentage of the fan base thinks he was/is.  

Do the really think this?  And a large percentage of them?  I agree with whoever said earlier that hardly anyone is paying any attention to this.

of our fanbase?  yes.  maybe wrong.  hopefully so.  the average fan probably doesn't know about depaul or oregon and I would probably guess beceause frank didn't publicly comment on either of them (well, then at least.  he described them indirectly talking to doug tucker).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 17, 2011, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.

To be fair, most of us are jackasses though.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.

Only a matter of time. Dumbass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 17, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.

Only a matter of time. Dumbass.

Why in gods name would you want to keep an ad over a coach is just beyond me. Good lord.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 17, 2011, 08:18:23 PM
Currie is just jealous because Frank will likely escape K-State before he can.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 17, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.

Only a matter of time. Dumbass.

Why in gods name would you want to keep an ad over a coach is just beyond me. Good lord.


We're in for some rough times with or without Frank, mostly due to Frank's shitty recruiting. And the "coaching carousel" is absolutely entertaining.

But hey, let's pretend we will enjoy watching JO and Nick play something resembling basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
This thread needs another good PI'ng from MIR to get crap back on track.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2011, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 17, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
This thread needs another good PI'ng from MIR to get cac back on track.

I don't blame MIR for giving up on this thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 17, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.

Only a matter of time. Dumbass.

Why in gods name would you want to keep an ad over a coach is just beyond me. Good lord.


We're in for some rough times with or without Frank, mostly due to Frank's shitty recruiting. And the "coaching carousel" is absolutely entertaining.

But hey, let's pretend we will enjoy watching JO and Nick play something resembling basketball.

the powerespect(s) chum keeps referring to, its you.  I won't even waste anyones time destroying your assessment of Frank.  The fact that you don't understand that fiscally responsible ADs are a dime a dozen tells us all we need to know about you.  John Currie is an accountant who answers powertards emails.

Rusty & chum are puttin in work, no need for me to PI anyone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 17, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 17, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Welcome to the anti-Frank bandwagon, guys.

For the record, I'd rather have Currie than Frank. My biggest worry is it soothes over Curries appetite for a new major coaching hire and Bill gets to die on the sidelines.

no one is on your stupid little bandwagon, dumbass.

Only a matter of time. Dumbass.

Why in gods name would you want to keep an ad over a coach is just beyond me. Good lord.


We're in for some rough times with or without Frank, mostly due to Frank's shitty recruiting. And the "coaching carousel" is absolutely entertaining.

But hey, let's pretend we will enjoy watching JO and Nick play something resembling basketball.

the powerespect(s) chum keeps referring to, its you.  I won't even waste anyones time destroying your assessment of Frank.  The fact that you don't understand that fiscally responsible ADs are a dime a dozen tells us all we need to know about you.  John Currie is an accountant who answers powertards emails.

Rusty & chum are puttin in work, no need for me to PI anyone.

The fact you ass clowns think I'm serious tells me all I need to know about you. 75 pages of this and dipshits are finally getting too sensitive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 17, 2011, 09:10:26 PM
Realistically, we're going to rough ridin' hurt if Frank leaves, because Currie is gonna get some SLTH from a shitty mid major.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 17, 2011, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 17, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
This thread needs another good PI'ng from MIR to get cac back on track.

I don't blame MIR for giving up on this thread.

Lots of the same people saying the same stuff.  I'm looking forward to Miami hiring in the next 24 hours & UCONN looking for a new coach when Yahoo! Sports decides that they aren't done with Calhoun, or whoever they decide to investigate this summer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 17, 2011, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 17, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
This thread needs another good PI'ng from MIR to get cac back on track.

I don't blame MIR for giving up on this thread.

It stalled and the natives are getting restless.

I can't imagine a "Frank Martin/Open Miami Job" situation going well...especially one that lasts a fortnight.

And by going well, I mean not seeing most KSU BBS's turning into "Lord of the Flies".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-dub on April 17, 2011, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 17, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
Love Frank.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 17, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on April 17, 2011, 02:50:21 PM
There was a story a couple years ago about Frank that mentioned his son from his first marriage visiting during Christmas vacation and how badly Frank felt when he had to send him home to Miami, in part because of his relationship his own father. Thought at the time, Frank would do anything to get back there.
he probably has half a dozen little Franks running the streets of Miami, that's got to be it...he's doing it for the children
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Coaching Carousel Master Thread: Day 20

Infighting rampant.  Tribes formed.  Looting begins.  A few couches set on fire.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl244%2Fpanjandrum_01%2FgoEMAW%2FTISC_Steiner.jpg&hash=9c59b0e99953fbff178568c69c0216e47ee2928b)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
imo, the fact this is dragging on and Miami's public targets are Derek Jeter and the dude who invented Facebook, is making this situation worse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 17, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Coaching Carousel Master Thread: Day 20

Infighting rampant.  Tribes formed.  Looting begins.  A few couches set on fire.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl244%2Fpanjandrum_01%2FgoEMAW%2FTISC_Steiner.jpg&hash=9c59b0e99953fbff178568c69c0216e47ee2928b)
nice work

Also, I can't quite figure out why (other than KITN) people are so convinced that Currie's hire after Frank (whether it's not or 3 years from now) will be a shitty one.  What possible evidence is there of that?  I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna knock it out of the park, but we have no evidence either way.  Literally...none.  Does this all just stem from the KITNphobia?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 17, 2011, 10:05:50 PM
The Frankite Tribe is most dangerous when cornered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 17, 2011, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: Rams on April 17, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Coaching Carousel Master Thread: Day 20

Infighting rampant.  Tribes formed.  Looting begins.  A few couches set on fire.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl244%2Fpanjandrum_01%2FgoEMAW%2FTISC_Steiner.jpg&hash=9c59b0e99953fbff178568c69c0216e47ee2928b)
nice work

Also, I can't quite figure out why (other than KITN) people are so convinced that Currie's hire after Frank (whether it's not or 3 years from now) will be a shitty one.  What possible evidence is there of that?  I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna knock it out of the park, but we have no evidence either way.  Literally...none.  Does this all just stem from the KITNphobia?  :dunno:

Just an assumption by most people. It could go either way. Currie needs the bright spot on his resume, but then again he would be hiring for K-State...so could be interesting if/when we need a new coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
imo, the fact this is dragging on and Miami's public targets are Derek Jeter and the dude who invented Facebook, is making this situation worse.

It shouldn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Harry Dunne on April 17, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 17, 2011, 11:37:45 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 17, 2011, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 17, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
like, imo, whether frank was or wasn't lobbying for the job is irrelevant.  what's relevant is that a large percentage of the fan base thinks he was/is.  

Do the really think this?  And a large percentage of them?  I agree with whoever said earlier that hardly anyone is paying any attention to this.

Yeah, I've realized over the past few days that there are very few K-State fans even following this situation very closely. I have a lot of friends that frequent this site regularly and are super EMAW, but they've relied on me updating them on the Frank crap because they aren't even following this thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Andy on April 18, 2011, 12:06:23 AM
i just hope this situation won't further cripple frank's ability to recruit and win games.  It certainly can't help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 18, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
This thread is a well of knowledge.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 18, 2011, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 18, 2011, 12:06:23 AM
i just hope this situation won't further cripple frank's ability to recruit and win games.  It certainly can't help.

This is what I'm worried about.

(see sig)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 01:05:40 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
This thread is a well of knowledge.

I would suggest grabbing anything of value from here before the fire from the burning couches sets this whole thread ablaze.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 18, 2011, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 01:05:40 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
This thread is a well of knowledge.

I would suggest grabbing anything of value from here before the fire from the burning couches sets this whole thread ablaze.

Wait, is it "well" or "wealth"?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CrushNasty on April 18, 2011, 03:32:29 AM
Quote
Former EMAW  :bracketmouse: James Franklin


Just as my eyes were starting to get heavy up here, got a surprise from coach Frank Martin. #kstateFamilia


 :ck:

Not sure if it means anything.  James just had surgery a couple days back (no idea what for).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 18, 2011, 05:20:45 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 01:05:40 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
This thread is a well of knowledge.

I would suggest grabbing anything of value from here before the fire from the burning couches sets this whole thread ablaze.

Wait, is it "well" or "wealth"?

Google it, you dumbass.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 18, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 17, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 17, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Coaching Carousel Master Thread: Day 20

Infighting rampant.  Tribes formed.  Looting begins.  A few couches set on fire.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl244%2Fpanjandrum_01%2FgoEMAW%2FTISC_Steiner.jpg&hash=9c59b0e99953fbff178568c69c0216e47ee2928b)
nice work

Also, I can't quite figure out why (other than KITN) people are so convinced that Currie's hire after Frank (whether it's not or 3 years from now) will be a shitty one.  What possible evidence is there of that?  I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna knock it out of the park, but we have no evidence either way.  Literally...none.  Does this all just stem from the KITNphobia?  :dunno:
I don't think I've been overly impressed with any hires during the coaching carousel, so I wouldn't expect a whole lot being the last guy without a date to the prom. This excludes a "Frank leaves KSU excited, gives them a Pearl necklace" scenario.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 07:19:30 AM
Wisconsin-Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter met with new Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst over the weekend and could be the frontrunner for the Hurricanes' head coaching job, according to The Miami Herald.

Jeter, 41, is 101-89 in five years at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, taking over the program after spending 10 years on Bo Ryan's staff at Wisconsin and Wisconsin-Platteville. Eichorst and Jeter worked together at Wisconsin.

Other names mentioned by Herald as candidates are Mike Davis (UAB), Mike Jarvis (FAU), Frank Martin (Kansas State), Billy Kennedy (Murray State), Gary Waters (Cleveland State), and Donnie Jones (UCF) but none of them has been contacted by UM as of Friday. Some trustees have lobbied for Virginia Tech's Seth Greenberg, but they have not had any formal talks.

In other Miami news, incoming freshman G Bishop Daniels has asked the school for his release in the wake of coach Frank Haith's departure for Missouri. Daniels, from Raleigh, N.C., is expected to enroll at Tennessee or Rutgers, according to The Herald.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 18, 2011, 07:21:01 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2011, 05:20:45 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 01:05:40 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 18, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
This thread is a well of knowledge.

I would suggest grabbing anything of value from here before the fire from the burning couches sets this whole thread ablaze.

Wait, is it "well" or "wealth"?

Google it, you dumbass.

:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 07:23:13 AM
Quote
WILL
sign
next
Week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BP re. Angel posted on sunday so I really have no idea if he's saying, like, next week or this week (tuesday) like Rob said. the number of exclamation points makes and the fact that will is in all caps shows he's confident in his unclear statement though. putting here because it has more to do with the coaching carousel than recruiting.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 07:33:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 07:23:13 AM
Quote
WILL
sign
next
Week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BP re. Angel posted on sunday so I really have no idea if he's saying, like, next week or this week (tuesday) like Rob said. the number of exclamation points makes and the fact that will is in all caps shows he's confident in his unclear statement though. putting here because it has more to do with the coaching carousel than recruiting.  

That capitalization of "week" seems like a good sign, too. I mean, it's capitalized, so that could only mean holy week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 18, 2011, 08:03:17 AM
Quote from: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 07:33:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 07:23:13 AM
Quote
WILL
sign
next
Week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BP re. Angel posted on sunday so I really have no idea if he's saying, like, next week or this week (tuesday) like Rob said. the number of exclamation points makes and the fact that will is in all caps shows he's confident in his unclear statement though. putting here because it has more to do with the coaching carousel than recruiting.  

That capitalization of "week" seems like a good sign, too. I mean, it's capitalized, so that could only mean holy week.

Does not say which school he's signing with.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:14:36 AM
Quote
Frank is going to Miami

He is sitting across from me at the airport right now. What should I say to him?

30 minutes ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mcmwcat on April 18, 2011, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:14:36 AM
Quote
Frank is going to Miami

He is sitting across from me at the airport right now. What should I say to him?

30 minutes ago

thought he was already in Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:19:04 AM
Quote
I don't know where he is going. I thought the Miami thing was this week...Suprisingly, Im not wearing purple.


1 minute ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:19:04 AM
Quote
I don't know where he is going. I thought the Miami thing was this week...Suprisingly, Im not wearing purple.


1 minute ago

Who/Where is this from?

I bet he's in DFW on his way back to MHK, but the poster is confusing it for something else.

:users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 18, 2011, 08:50:10 AM
Anybody else think that our B-Ball coach sitting in an airport terminal waiting on a connecting flight to get home is really KSTATE0?  Think Self would be doing that?  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:58:31 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 08:19:04 AM
Quote
I don't know where he is going. I thought the Miami thing was this week...Suprisingly, Im not wearing purple.


1 minute ago

Who/Where is this from?

I bet he's in DFW on his way back to MHK, but the poster is confusing it for something else.

:users:

I think the guy is in either Manhattan or KC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bozocat on April 18, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2011-04-16/kevin-haskin-hoops-job-attractive-k-state

Pretty lame article here by Haskin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 18, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: bozocat on April 18, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2011-04-16/kevin-haskin-hoops-job-attractive-k-state

Pretty lame article here by Haskin.

Quote
hey, that’s the F-man

 :blank:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 18, 2011, 09:43:29 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 18, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: bozocat on April 18, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2011-04-16/kevin-haskin-hoops-job-attractive-k-state

Pretty lame article here by Haskin.

Quote
hey, that’s the F-man

 :blank:


That was physically hard to read.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 18, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: bozocat on April 18, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2011-04-16/kevin-haskin-hoops-job-attractive-k-state

Pretty lame article here by Haskin.

Quote
hey, that’s the F-man

 :blank:


so, like, people still think that only about 100 or so of us know about Frank'n'Miami?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2011, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.

'te knows that there is no where near $480k in Miami. 

If this goes bad, I would like to hear all available stories about 'te big-timing locals/townies about being the one who brought us Mike as he struggles with being left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 18, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 18, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
So when we hire oscar do we re-name the OOD to "Pearl Harbor" or do we let him name some party cove out at Tuttle that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 18, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 18, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
So when we hire oscar do we re-name the OOD to "Pearl Harbor" or do we let him name some party cove out at Tuttle that?

Lots of potential for this one...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 18, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.

If this is Martin, is it possible that he is there when AR signs if that is supposed to go down tomorrow. ?  Just a thought. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 18, 2011, 11:05:07 AM
Quote from: beefpac on April 18, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.

If this is Martin, is it possible that he is there when AR signs if that is supposed to go down tomorrow. ?  Just a thought. 

At some point he will scare Miami off by coming on too strong.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: beefpac on April 18, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
Quote
I flew out of Manhatan. Dalonte is on the flight too but they aren't sitting together. Someone on this flight is connecting from Chicago to Miami. Ill see what I can find out.

If this is Martin, is it possible that he is there when AR signs if that is supposed to go down tomorrow. ?  Just a thought. 

Coaches can’t talk about recruits before having a valid National Letter of Intent on file, and they can’t attend NLI signings not on an institution’s campus. Not allowing coaches to talk about the players they are recruiting avoids the “one-upmanship” that could (and previously did) occur between coaches in the recruiting process. Prohibiting their presence at signings also alleviates pressure some student-athletes say they felt when they signed. Peal said that if a signing takes place on an institution’s campus, she encourages institutions to have an administrator present in addition to a coach. The administrator can “back up the facts” if a student-athlete later appeals his National Letter of Intent and alleges he was pressured into signing by a coach.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/2011-02-02/history-national-letter-intent
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 18, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 18, 2011, 11:22:41 AM
WHERE THE eff IS OUR MOTHERFUCKING FLIGHT TRACKER?!?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 

i would think a UM or UM booster jet.

I'll say this, if Frank is flying commercially down to Miami to interview one day after flying commercially from Miami to MHK, then goodbye Frank.

Also hilarious that UM waits until he leaves, then calls the next day to make him come right back down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:50:32 AM
FM:  Got a big interview this monday.  
JC:  Oh yeah, sounds really big.  They sending a jet up for you?
FM:  ......BIG interview.
JC:  Ok then, did you want anything else?
FM:  Just to say goodbye I guess....because of the interview for the job....which I will TOTALLY take.
JC:  Ok....bye then.
FM:  BIG!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 18, 2011, 11:50:37 AM
nm
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 18, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:44:59 AM


Also hilarious that UM waits until he leaves, then calls the next day to make him come right back down.

Like a girlfriend making her boy toy do dumb crap cuz it 'proves his devotion. And he does cuz he wants some sex. Its romantic.  :shy:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 18, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:44:59 AM


Also hilarious that UM waits until he leaves, then calls the next day to make him come right back down.

Like a girlfriend making her boy toy do dumb crap cuz it 'proves his devotion. And he does cuz he wants some sex. Its romantic.  :shy:

yes. like i said, hilarious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
If Frank got his liver spleen cancer in Miami he would be dead right now.  Mercy Regional Medical saved him.  Don't think this doesn't come into play.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
If Frank got his liver spleen cancer in Miami he would be dead right now.  Mercy Regional Medical saved him.  Don't think this doesn't come into play.  

but i doubt they would ever run out of calamari. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 

no, but he would certainly either at LEAST get a flight out to somewhere innocuous, then get a connection, or get a boosters plane.   After all, if the boosters are so hot on him....


Frank isn't going to hop on AA and get a connection right into Miami where any jackass could see him and call the media.     And guarantee a hoodie and sunglasses would be involved.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 18, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 

no, but he would certainly either at LEAST get a flight out to somewhere innocuous, then get a connection, or get a boosters plane.   After all, if the boosters are so hot on him....


Frank isn't going to hop on AA and get a connection right into Miami where any jackass could see him and call the media.     And guarantee a hoodie and sunglasses would be involved.

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 

no, but he would certainly either at LEAST get a flight out to somewhere innocuous, then get a connection, or get a boosters plane.   After all, if the boosters are so hot on him....


Frank isn't going to hop on AA and get a connection right into Miami where any jackass could see him and call the media.     And guarantee a hoodie and sunglasses would be involved.

that is all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  why on earth would frank want to keep it quiet if he got an interview?  he would probably fly a banner behind whatever plane he was on if he was offered the chance to interview for the gig.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
If Frank got his liver spleen cancer in Miami he would be dead right now.  Mercy Regional Medical saved him.  Don't think this doesn't come into play.  

but i doubt they would ever run out of calamari. :frown:

NBAF will take care of the calamari situation.  of this I can assure you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bubu54 on April 18, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
keep up with it man....ksu no longer using jet....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: bubu54 on April 18, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
keep up with it man....ksu no longer using jet....

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
phone ringing
John: Hello?
Frank: John, it's Frank. Howya doin?
John: I'm fine, Frank. Just getting ready to hop on a conference call with Phil Knight about new football jerseys. Make it quick.
Frank: Well, I just wanted to call and tell you I'm heading down for an interview to Miami about the head coaching job down there.
John: What's that Frank? (John makes static-y sound) I can't seem to hear you. I think you're breaking up.
Frank: If they offer the job I'm taking it, John.
John: What's that? (banging phone on his desk) You said you're eating lunch at Pizza Shuttle? Have fun!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 18, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
If he did use a Ksu jet, jc probably would of packed his bags and fueled it himself, and of course it probably would of flown into a tall building!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ew2x4 on April 18, 2011, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

you think he takes the KSU jet? 

i would think a UM or UM booster jet.

I'll say this, if Frank is flying commercially down to Miami to interview one day after flying commercially from Miami to MHK, then goodbye Frank.

Also hilarious that UM waits until he leaves, then calls the next day to make him come right back down.

He's trying to get more money out of us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 18, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
If he did use a Ksu jet, jc probably would of packed his bags and fueled it himself, and of course it probably would of flown into a tall building!

ok, apparently my crack about a ksu jet has confused some people.  was not actually insinuating that this was a possibility.  was actually saying it because of the absurdity of it.  so, there you go.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on April 18, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 18, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
If he did use a Ksu jet, jc probably would of packed his bags and fueled it himself, and of course it probably would of flown into a tall building!

ok, apparently my crack about a ksu jet has confused some people.  was not actually insinuating that this was a possibility.  was actually saying it because of the absurdity of it.  so, there you go.  
:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 18, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: unleashthemob on April 18, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
If he did use a Ksu jet, jc probably would of packed his bags and fueled it himself, and of course it probably would of flown into a tall building!

ok, apparently my crack about a ksu jet has confused some people.  was not actually insinuating that this was a possibility.  was actually saying it because of the absurdity of it.  so, there you go.  

yeah, i think you really puzzled some of our powerrespects with the ksu jet thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: unleashthemob on April 18, 2011, 12:38:55 PM
crap, wouldn't surprise me a bit if jc isn't already clearing out Franks office, probably stack it all outside by the ticket office door.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
No way in hell would ksu let him use the jet.  :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
maybe frank was using the ksu jet for recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 18, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
maybe frank was using the ksu jet for recruiting.

oh snap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 18, 2011, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 18, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
maybe frank was using the ksu jet for recruiting.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
uh-oh  :runaway:

Quote
ADBromley
.@Manny_Navarro Some UM Students have gathered in front of Hecht Athletic Center with signs lobbying for Frank Martin.
less than a minute ago via Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 18, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
i dunno guys. I think he might be able to lie and get plane. Like "Hey John, Can i get the keys to the jet?"

"Uhh, why?"

"Just to fill it up."

"Oh, ok. have it back by 11."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 01:01:50 PM
If they haven't already, they are going to hire him. Kudos to both parties. Was a delight to watch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 18, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
_FAN? steve dave?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 18, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
_FAN? steve dave?

0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 18, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
y'all chill. it's done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 18, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 18, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
y'all chill. it's done.

0%  :pbj:

What is done???  WHAT IS DONE????  :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 18, 2011, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 18, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
_FAN? steve dave?

0%

Everyone should listen to steve dave.*

*Unless he's wrong.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 18, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
Quote
JHolihan John Holihan
Loose talk on @JayhawkSlant boards that Frank Martin is heading out to visit with Miami today. Anyone else heard that? #ksubball

grats SD :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 18, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
Quote
JHolihan John Holihan
Loose talk on @JayhawkSlant boards that Frank Martin is heading out to visit with Miami today. Anyone else heard that? #ksubball

grats SD :lol:

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 18, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

agreed, if he was going to miami he would be walking over coals.



btw, there are three days left open in the spring contact period.  most recruits will have gotten home yesterday from whatever aau tournament they played in over the weekend.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 18, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
tsnmike Michael DeCourcy
Martin denies wrongdoing, but program never was accused of anything more "scandalous" than recruiting players. In college, that's job No. 1.
43 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

tsnmike Michael DeCourcy
Miami Herald reports controversy from F. Martin's days coaching HS hurting chances of coaching Canes. If that's the problem, it's a joke.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 18, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Secertary: Mr. Schultz, Frank Martin is on the phone for you.
KSUPKS: Tell him I'm busy and he should call John.
Sec:  Mr. Martin told me that Mr. Currie told him to call you.
KSUPKS: Can't you have him call Weefs or something?  I just figured out how Slingbox "Game of Thrones", this is going to be sweet!
Secretary: He wanted you to know the students at Miami are rioting to get him hired.
KSUPKS: Well if the students demand it, we had better give in.  Don't want some Egyptian revolt down there or anything.  Tell him we respect the Miami U student's decision.  It's tough, but fair.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 18, 2011, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: sys on April 18, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
chalk me up as one who doesn't believe Frank would fly commercial, out of Manhattan, to interview for Miami.

agreed, if he was going to miami he would be walking over coals.



btw, there are three days left open in the spring contact period.  most recruits will have gotten home yesterday from whatever aau tournament they played in over the weekend.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bruce on April 18, 2011, 02:49:07 PM
tornament
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 18, 2011, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


On his way to Mayfield to find another Pullen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 18, 2011, 03:43:28 PM
THE CUBAN FLIES AMERICAN!
After Miami refuses to send private jet, Francisco
Martinez takes commercial flight to job interview

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcrunchgear.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Famerican-airlines-767.jpg&hash=769bf278b52ef34f7694d92a7d294a74c6d9c800)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 18, 2011, 03:43:28 PM
THE CUBAN FLIES AMERICAN!
After Miami refuses to send private jet, Francisco
Martinez takes commercial flight to job interview

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcrunchgear.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Famerican-airlines-767.jpg&hash=769bf278b52ef34f7694d92a7d294a74c6d9c800)



HE'S BACK
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


Actually not true.

pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 18, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
rankin scoop.

Quote
Just spoke with my man coach Jeff Duncan and Sonny Parker in Chicago and Simeon is loaded with coaches today. Bradley, Loyola (IL) K-State

would be great if martin/hill were watching jabari parker, but prolly not.  with bradley and loyola as the other mentions, it doesn't feel that elite.  maybe kendrick nunn?  he's meanstreets.  parker and taylor are mac irvin fire.  jones was from simeon too, so worst case scenario would involve him.


i'm putting this in the 2013 thread too, on hopes of parker or nunn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


Actually not true.

pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.

Actually not true

for efficiency purposes (time), it would be dfw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


Actually not true.

pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.

Actually not true

for efficiency purposes (time), it would be dfw.

Not much of a difference really. Plus, who wants to wake up early enough to get the dfw 6:30. Not me. That's who. Time to face reality etp. Frank is gone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: sys on April 18, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
rankin scoop.

Quote
Just spoke with my man coach Jeff Duncan and Sonny Parker in Chicago and Simeon is loaded with coaches today. Bradley, Loyola (IL) K-State

would be great if martin/hill were watching jabari parker, but prolly not.  with bradley and loyola as the other mentions, it doesn't feel that elite.  maybe kendrick nunn?  he's meanstreets.  parker and taylor are mac irvin fire.  jones was from simeon too, so worst case scenario would involve him.


i'm putting this in the 2013 thread too, on hopes of parker or nunn.

is this a thing? are we already saying it? don't know, but like it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 18, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
@Collegiate_hoop
College Basketball
 RT @DMcDonaldHoops: 2012 guard Chris Bolden just decommitted from Miami (FL).
3 minutes ago

I know this probably should go tin Recruiting thread, but maybe this has something to do wtih Frank and why he went to Miami  :ck:  

PS I know he didn't go to Miami.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


Actually not true.

pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.

Actually not true

for efficiency purposes (time), it would be dfw.

Not much of a difference really. Plus, who wants to wake up early enough to get the dfw 6:30. Not me. That's who. Time to face reality etp. Frank is gone.

if i were frank, i wouldn't mind getting up at 6:00, shower and eat breakfast, catch the 6:30 flight, hang out for an hour in dfw, then off to miami.

seems more likely here, rd. let's get real.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 18, 2011, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 18, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
why in the hell would he be on a flight to miami, a day after being there?

I don't know that it was ever confirmed that he was.  Was confirmed he was on a flight to Chicago and someone on that flight had a Miami connection but that was it.  Seems like a scoop that get_hit would have......

why in the hell would he be on a flight to chicago?  Illinois-Chicago?  :ohno:


Actually not true.

pretty much this.

if you fly  :AA: to miami, you'd probably be routed through dfw.

Actually not true

for efficiency purposes (time), it would be dfw.

Not much of a difference really. Plus, who wants to wake up early enough to get the dfw 6:30. Not me. That's who. Time to face reality etp. Frank is gone.

if i were frank, i wouldn't mind getting up at 6:00, shower and eat breakfast, catch the 6:30 flight, hang out for an hour in dfw, then off to miami.

seems more likely here, rd. let's get real.

DFW you could leave at like noon or 4 because of multiple flights.  Chicago you have to make the 6 or 7am one or whatever the hell it is
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 18, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
is this a thing? are we already saying it? don't know, but like it.

meanstreets is a chicago area aau team sponsored/coached by tai streets.  pullen played with them and tai streets has been seen at a couple of kstate games.

afaik, there's never been any association between the mac irvin fire and kstate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: sys on April 18, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 18, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
is this a thing? are we already saying it? don't know, but like it.

meanstreets is a chicago area aau team sponsored/coached by tai streets.  pullen played with them and tai streets has been seen at a couple of kstate games.

afaik, there's never been any association between the mac irvin fire and kstate.

I guess I was hoping for a broader, more possibly demographic-type meaning. That's how I'm gonna use it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 18, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago

do u have any nbaf updates
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago

Smith Rivera?   :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 18, 2011, 08:24:49 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Smith Rivera?   :horrorsurprise:

 :excited:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 18, 2011, 10:55:37 PM
Quote from: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago

Any truth to the rumor that Deb is recruiting Lexy and Stephany as a package deal?  Dalonte could be a draw for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 18, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago

Hmmm....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cannoncat on April 19, 2011, 12:11:52 AM
 :pbj: :pbj: :pbj: :pbj: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 19, 2011, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: Cannoncat on April 19, 2011, 12:11:52 AM
:pbj: :pbj: :pbj: :pbj: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
:bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 19, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
Damn, BSAC really knows how to calm the waters. This thread felt like a funeral yesterday, now we are all  :emawkid: about Frank and $500K'te
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 19, 2011, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: AbeFroman on April 19, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
Damn, BSAC really knows how to calm the waters. This thread felt like a funeral yesterday, now we are all  :emawkid: about Frank and $500K'te
speak for yourself. I'm with Mac
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 18, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Frank was going to Indianapolis....Dalonte to Chicago

Smith Rivera?   :horrorsurprise:

http://kentsterling.com/2011/03/08/dvauntes-smith-rivera-smash-and-run-costs-him-the-hinkle-regional-opener/

He's got that fighting mentality!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 19, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
So today is pretty much D-Day for Frank to Miami right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 19, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
So today is pretty much D-Day for Frank to Miami right?


and more than likely off season bbs'ing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 19, 2011, 11:30:56 AM
 :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 19, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
So today is pretty much D-Day for Frank to Miami right?


huh?

why? Angel signing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Worthy of a bolded meh, but not too excited until he lands one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Worthy of a bolded meh, but not too excited until he lands one.

you should be mildly excited because it's been a long ass time since KSU has been spotted in a gym outside of Kansas to see any recruits rated nearly as highly as the collection Frank and Dalonte are visiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 19, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
I'll take the occasional "swing and a miss" on a legit NBA-type recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Worthy of a bolded meh, but not too excited until he lands one.

you should be mildly excited because it's been a long ass time since KSU has been spotted in a gym outside of Kansas to see any recruits rated nearly as highly as the collection Frank and Dalonte are visiting.
I see your point, but it's hard to be legitimately excited when I think there is 0% that we get someone like that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Worthy of a bolded meh, but not too excited until he lands one.

you should be mildly excited because it's been a long ass time since KSU has been spotted in a gym outside of Kansas to see any recruits rated nearly as highly as the collection Frank and Dalonte are visiting.
I see your point, but it's hard to be legitimately excited when I think there is 0% that we get someone like that.

you can't win if you don't play
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 19, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
So today is pretty much D-Day for Frank to Miami right?


huh?

why? Angel signing?



Quote
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Tuesday signing.

Art Alvarez told me that Angel is set to sign on Tuesday as well.

That goes along with Rob's earlier post from Shakey Rodriguez.

We'll let you know as soon as we get confirmation that it has taken place.



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Yeah, so it's now 1.00PM in Miami and still nothing.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 12:06:52 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: doom on April 19, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Dub on April 19, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Sorry if stupid Q, who's in Chicago?

Quote from:  from recruiting thread
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State, Northwestern, DePaul, Oregon, BYU, Wisconsin, Ohio State & more watched 2013 forward Jabari Parker of Simeon (IL) today.
seems like a pipe dream, am I wrong?

You are missing the big picture here.  Te is recruiting someone worth a damn. 

 :pbj:
Worthy of a bolded meh, but not too excited until he lands one.

you should be mildly excited because it's been a long ass time since KSU has been spotted in a gym outside of Kansas to see any recruits rated nearly as highly as the collection Frank and Dalonte are visiting.
I see your point, but it's hard to be legitimately excited when I think there is 0% that we get someone like that.

you can't win if you don't play
Fair enough. Let me know when we win.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 19, 2011, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
you should be mildly excited.

in the last week, mentions with four new 2012 & 2013 elite recruits plus a followup mention with elite 2012, dsr.  i'm more than mildly excited.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: sys on April 19, 2011, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
you should be mildly excited.

in the last week, mentions with four new 2012 & 2013 elite recruits plus a followup mention with elite 2012, dsr.  i'm more than mildly excited.
mentions don't do anything for me anymore. I need more to get the same effect. Mentions are like Playboy magazines or drugs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 19, 2011, 12:33:21 PM
http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/source_gillispie_getting_it_done_already_with_staff_hire/4585908

former houston aau coach.  big time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
damn  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2011, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: sys on April 19, 2011, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
you should be mildly excited.

in the last week, mentions with four new 2012 & 2013 elite recruits plus a followup mention with elite 2012, dsr.  i'm more than mildly excited.
mentions don't do anything for me anymore. I need more to get the same effect. Mentions are like Playboy magazines or drugs.

this.  was nice during the kadj and boynton days.  but now, it's a hollow, empty feeling. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2011, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
damn  :horrorsurprise:

feel bad for jay.  no one that good looking should ever lose an assistant to a person as ugly as billy clyde.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 19, 2011, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
damn  :horrorsurprise:

feel bad for jay.  no one that good looking should ever lose an assistant to a person as ugly as billy clyde.


makes me feel bad for us not hiring billy clyde
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
caneswatch Jorge Milian
Donna Shalala at the podium about to introduce new UM athletic director Shawn Eichorst.

caneswatch Jorge Milian
Eichorst on basketball coaching search: "I am the search committee."

caneswatch Jorge Milian
Eichorst said he's "personally not interviewed anyone."

caneswatch Jorge Milian
Eichorst: "There are a lot of people interested in being coach of the University of Miami..." Add that "time is on our side."

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
"time is on our side."

lol wut
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
"time is on our side."

lol wut
Rolling Stones fan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 19, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
jesus christ, make it stop.  hire someone already!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 01:46:24 PM
0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
Time to hunker down and start rationing provisions.  This thread may go on for awhile.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 19, 2011, 01:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:54:08 PM
Looks like we may need to take shifts on the free trials of the Miami message boards. Are there enough goEMAW'ers to each take a free trial back to back to back, etc. AND make it thru this entire process?

Then again, does Miami have any quality boards to go thru the effort to sign up?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: beefpac on April 19, 2011, 02:25:10 PM
@KyleNeddenriep
Kyle Neddenriep
Kansas State coach Frank Martin, Louisville coach Rick Pitino and Tennessee assistant saw North Central's D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera Monday.

Boom!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 19, 2011, 02:29:23 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:54:08 PM
Looks like we may need to take shifts on the free trials of the Miami message boards. Are there enough goEMAW'ers to each take a free trial back to back to back, etc. AND make it thru this entire process?

Then again, does Miami have any quality boards to go thru the effort to sign up?

If the Emawinatti want to read a board, they do so.  No signing up needed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 19, 2011, 02:41:39 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 19, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
"time is on our side."

lol wut

A moratorium has been put on the U's basketball program until the field of candidates improves.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 19, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: 5601js on April 19, 2011, 01:54:08 PM
Looks like we may need to take shifts on the free trials of the Miami message boards. Are there enough goEMAW'ers to each take a free trial back to back to back, etc. AND make it thru this entire process?

Then again, does Miami have any quality boards to go thru the effort to sign up?

I don't think they'll approve our applications.  I tried last week and I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 19, 2011, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 18, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
y'all chill. it's done.

just kidding, do your best fukushima impressions
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BMWWcat on April 19, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Did Angel sign yet???
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: BMWWcat on April 19, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Did Angel sign yet???

No.  And he's probably not going to.

For some reason GoPowercat is incapable of understanding why Angel has not signed (and probably won't), yet continues to contact these morons like Shakey Rodriguez and gullibly allow themselves to be strung along with false information...



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 19, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: BMWWcat on April 19, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Did Angel sign yet???

No.  And he's probably not going to.

For some reason GoPowercat is incapable of understanding why Angel has not signed (and probably won't), yet continues to contact these morons like Shakey Rodriguez and gullibly allow themselves to be strung along with false information...


I bet he ends up at Louisville. Pitino is hot on him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 19, 2011, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on April 19, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: BMWWcat on April 19, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Did Angel sign yet???

No.  And he's probably not going to.

For some reason GoPowercat is incapable of understanding why Angel has not signed (and probably won't), yet continues to contact these morons like Shakey Rodriguez and gullibly allow themselves to be strung along with false information...


I bet he ends up at Louisville. Pitino is hot on him


That would be awful.  That is the only way I will be pissed at Frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 19, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
katz - frank, i was reading goEMAW.com and it looks like the fans are turning on us.  not just the whoring with miami, but also the transfers.

martin - i'll go get us some elite mentions.  they love those, it'll be fine.   :woot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2011, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: BMWWcat on April 19, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Did Angel sign yet???

No.  And he's probably not going to.

For some reason GoPowercat is incapable of understanding why Angel has not signed (and probably won't), yet continues to contact these morons like Shakey Rodriguez and gullibly allow themselves to be strung along with false information...


jfc.  frank is really holding out for that miami job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 06:35:44 PM
I don't know what is more comical at this point, Frank's behavior or the tard's inability to comprehend what is unfolding right in front of them.

Our fan base is reaching a new level of stupidity that I never thought possible.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 19, 2011, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: sys on April 19, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
katz - frank, i was reading goEMAW.com and it looks like the fans are turning on us.  not just the whoring with miami, but also the transfers.

martin - i'll go get us some elite mentions.  they love those, it'll be fine.   :woot:

I had to  :lol: at how true this statement is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 19, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
This thread sucks now. So boring. Like Fatty's posting style.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 19, 2011, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 19, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
This thread sucks now. So boring. Like Fatty's posting style.



 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
Coaching Carousel Master Thread: Day 22

Escaped civilization.  Made my way to woods to escape certain doom.  Hope TrimGoPowercat is still not angry with me.  Became friends with a volleyball.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 19, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Has this not been posted yet?  :dunno:

Moving on from Martin
by: Steve Gorten April 19th, 2011 | 8:50 PM

CORAL GABLES – If you listened between the lines Tuesday, Hurricanes AD Shawn Eichorst all but said Kansas State’s Frank Martin has no chance of being hired as his men’s basketball coach.

Eichorst described his coach-to-be as “a fundamentally sound person who is positive and treats young people with the utmost respect” and later added, “I want our kids to be treated in a very respectful and loving manner. I want a positive person. I don’t like negative people.”

Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game, doesn’t exactly exude loving and positive. 

He’s more like the drill sergeant from the GEICO commercials.

And so we move on…..
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 20, 2011, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Has this not been posted yet?  :dunno:

Moving on from Martin
by: Steve Gorten April 19th, 2011 | 8:50 PM

CORAL GABLES – If you listened between the lines Tuesday, Hurricanes AD Shawn Eichorst all but said Kansas State’s Frank Martin has no chance of being hired as his men’s basketball coach.

Eichorst described his coach-to-be as “a fundamentally sound person who is positive and treats young people with the utmost respect” and later added, “I want our kids to be treated in a very respectful and loving manner. I want a positive person. I don’t like negative people.”

Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game, doesn’t exactly exude loving and positive. 

He’s more like the drill sergeant from the GEICO commercials.

And so we move on…..

Sounds like Miami is after a SLTH
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2011, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

yep
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

If kicking the crap out of Chris Merriewether on occasion is what it takes for KSU to have coaching stability SO BE IT!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:23:03 AM
Have fun with your fundamentally unsound, hateful, negative jackass coach who doesn't treat young people the right way.  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:23:03 AM
Have fun with your fundamentally unsound, hateful, negative jackass coach who doesn't treat young people the right way.  :lol:

ok, thanks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:23:03 AM
Have fun with your fundamentally unsound, hateful, negative jackass coach who doesn't treat young people the right way.  :lol:

thanks, will take
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

pretty great that the same kind of factors that let us get Huggie will let us keep Martin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
"Frank is a jerk. But he's our jerk."

This Eichorst guy might be worse than John Currie, btw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
"Frank is a jerk. But he's our jerk."

This Eichorst guy might be worse than John Currie, btw.

he's not a jerk to anyone but journalists.  who, let's face it, rough ridin' deserve it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:31:45 AM
Haha, fair enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stacie Owens on April 20, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

"eff" you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:39:48 AM
NO JERKS ALLOWED!
Miami's dorky new AD would rather
have a [Rob] Jeter than a cheater

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmms.businesswire.com%2Fbwapps%2Fmediaserver%2FViewMedia%3Fmgid%3D270392%26amp%3Bvid%3D4&hash=3e43af4df230b11b7e8d22944884043700f2a360)
"I want a positive person," Eichorst
said. I don’t like negative people.”

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 08:40:26 AM
I still blame Merriewether for us not making the Final 4, so I'm pretty okay with this. Don't see a downside.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: Stacie Owens on April 20, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

"eff" you.

stats straight
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2011, 08:40:55 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
"Frank is a jerk. But he's our jerk."

This Eichorst guy might be worse than John Currie, btw.

he's not a jerk to anyone but journalists.  who, let's face it, effing deserve it.  

If they weren't so effing lazy he would respect them more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 20, 2011, 08:48:56 AM
All for our hot headed, angry coach staying as long as he starts recruiting better.

Running around scraping the bottom of the barrel for a warm body from the Juco Ranks to fill the ride(s) of guys the hot headed angry coach has run off is not by definition recruiting better.

Now the legit fear is that hot headed angry coach and his trusty side kick Te450K are our swinging for the fences again, which is fine, as long as there is legit plan B and C's as well . . . and legit plan B's and C's are not Canadian Juco guards and Te Irving types.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 20, 2011, 08:49:47 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:31:45 AM
Haha, fair enough.

CHECK YOUR SOURCE!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 20, 2011, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: Stacie Owens on April 20, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

"eff" you.

one of our better socks
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 20, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
This could be the job for Jankovich, if he didn't outright suck at coaching.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 20, 2011, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Martin, who this past season hit guard Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand and then apologized after the game

I knew that would help us in the long run.

If kicking the crap out of Chris Merriewether on occasion is what it takes for KSU to have coaching stability SO BE IT!

SO BE IT. :pbj:

Plus Merri deserved every punch gave him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 08:40:26 AM
I still blame Merriewether for us not making the Final 4, so I'm pretty okay with this. Don't see a downside.  :dunno:

This.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 20, 2011, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 20, 2011, 08:39:48 AM
NO JERKS ALLOWED!
Miami's dorky new AD would rather
have a [Rob] Jeter than a cheater

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmms.businesswire.com%2Fbwapps%2Fmediaserver%2FViewMedia%3Fmgid%3D270392%26amp%3Bvid%3D4&hash=3e43af4df230b11b7e8d22944884043700f2a360)
"I want a positive person," Eichorst
said. I don’t like negative people.”



JFC, I thought that was Kenneth from 30 Rock at first.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Benja on April 20, 2011, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 20, 2011, 10:45:16 AM
Plus Merri deserved every punch gave him.

This sentence bothers me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2011, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 20, 2011, 11:33:43 AM


JFC, I thought that was Kenneth from 30 Rock at first.

Iknowrite!

Jesus, he looks like they just yanked him off a farm in Door County.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 20, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
Relax.  Fitz says so.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1214002&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 11:44:15 AM
Quote from: Joker on April 20, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
Relax.  Fitz says so.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1214002&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Bunch of cheap shots taken at Frank in this Tim Fitzgerald piece.  Disgusting. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 20, 2011, 11:46:51 AM
Sign Up Now for a FREE Trial! - nothx
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 20, 2011, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 11:46:51 AM
Sign Up Now for a FREE Trial! - nothx

Yeah, I'm just going off the headline.  That's all I need from Fitz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 20, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

eff your mother
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

I love Tim Fitzgerald.  The only thing he's ever done to me was ban me from GPC which I can live with.  cac means you have your word filter turned on (you can turn this off in your user settings), BITB means Best In The Biz and usually refers to Kevin Kietzman but sometimes others in different fields and tuck is an old loser fan who tucks in his tshirt into his jeans and advocates for things that people who tuck their tshirt in at ksu games would advocate for.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

I love Tim Fitzgerald.  The only thing he's ever done to me was ban me from GPC which I can live with.  cac means you have your word filter turned on (you can turn this off in your user settings), BITH means Best In The Biz and usually refers to Kevin Kietzman but sometimes others in different fields and tuck is an old loser fan who tucks in his tshirt into his jeans and advocates for things that people who tuck their tshirt in at ksu games would advocate for. 

thanks. Now can you teach me how to twitter?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2011, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

Check out the Announcement board.  Should resolve a few of your initial questions.  If that doesn't fully satisfy your, see the board's Director of Poster Relations.    He's here to help.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 20, 2011, 12:47:46 PM
crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 20, 2011, 12:48:01 PM
finally.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 20, 2011, 12:54:15 PM
Most Fitz hate has to do with how he mumped up the GP deal. That's basically like getting away with murder. Has nothing to do with the "haterz" and jeaousy of his "job". Just that he's the reason we got stuck with Old Balls
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 20, 2011, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on April 20, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
This could be the job for Jankovich, if he didn't outright suck at coaching.

jank would be perfect if he wasn't a horrible coach.  the same is true for all the rest of us townies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 20, 2011, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: pike on April 20, 2011, 12:54:15 PM
Most Fitz hate has to do with how he effed up the GP deal. That's basically like getting away with murder. Has nothing to do with the "haterz" and jeaousy of his "job". Just that he's the reason we got stuck with Old Balls

don't forget is inflatted ego and self worth.  But yes, everytime I watch TCU play I think "what if we hadn't fitzed that up".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 20, 2011, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

Odds that this is a first and last post?   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on April 20, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
Quote from: Rams on April 20, 2011, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: bulzeye31 on April 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
So I'm new to goEMAW.com....was on gpc for about two years...got tired of all the whining over there.

But I've noticed a lot of animosity towards Tim Fitzgerald over here....can anyone explain why people dislike him so much?

Oh - and what the hell does cac, BITB, and tuck mean?

TIA!

Odds that this is a first and last post?   :popcorn:

Fitz just needed an update on his lingo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.

lol, the 5th result is the Joe Davis/rockchawkjayblog butthurt guy

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.

lol, the 5th result is the Joe Davis/rockchawkjayblog butthurt guy

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

I would love to see a BSAC vs. Joe Davis court battle.

Love.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

This chic looks horrified.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 20, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: Gooch on April 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

This chic looks horrified.
Not bad looking for this fat slob.  Jesus, does the 'Try to be funny fat guy' thing really work?  I think his tit's are bigger than hers??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 08:42:29 PM
Quote from: Gooch on April 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

This chic looks horrified.

"Look towards the jukebox if you're being held hostage."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWgeddon on April 20, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.

lol, the 5th result is the Joe Davis/rockchawkjayblog butthurt guy

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

Last night Joe Davis sent me a twitter message that said

"your EMAW friends aren't very nice"

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 20, 2011, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: EMAWgeddon on April 20, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.

lol, the 5th result is the Joe Davis/rockchawkjayblog butthurt guy

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

Last night Joe Davis sent me a twitter message that said

"your EMAW friends aren't very nice"



EPAW looks like Gary Busey
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWgeddon on April 20, 2011, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: pike on April 20, 2011, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: EMAWgeddon on April 20, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 20, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on April 20, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

Can I buy those K-State cowboy boots or not? 

Interesting that that search brings up avatars of people that posted in our threads about KSTATE0.  Makes us (unfairly) look a bit KSTATE0 ourselves.

lol, the 5th result is the Joe Davis/rockchawkjayblog butthurt guy

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhprofile-ak-snc4%2Fhs646.snc3%2F27456_511397349_8160_n.jpg&hash=8f8fea4df3e3d0d4d583390c42139c42466eb718)

Last night Joe Davis sent me a twitter message that said

"your EMAW friends aren't very nice"



EPAW looks like Gary Busey

He got his hair did for his carrot contest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 20, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote
dailythunder Royce Young
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin is in the crowd tonight. He's not wearing the blue shirt but did have it draped across his chest.
56 minutes ago


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 20, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 20, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote
dailythunder Royce Young
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin is in the crowd tonight. He's not wearing the blue shirt but did have it draped across his chest.
56 minutes ago


kstate hasn't been associated with any okc recruits that i know of.  could have come up from dfw or down from wichita, i suppose.  though gates reported underwood in wichita for ellis.  i would assume he would have reported martin too, if he had been there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: VGibsonLives on April 20, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Quote from: sys on April 20, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 20, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote
dailythunder Royce Young
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin is in the crowd tonight. He's not wearing the blue shirt but did have it draped across his chest.
56 minutes ago


kstate hasn't been associated with any okc recruits that i know of.  could have come up from dfw or down from wichita, i suppose.  though gates reported underwood in wichita for ellis.  i would assume he would have reported martin too, if he had been there.

joannachadwick Joanna Chadwick
KU's Bill Self, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall and assistants from Oklahoma and K-State were at Heights for pickup games tonight.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:

the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 20, 2011, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I'm sure most experts on the subject would say you should probably wear ear protection.  What the eff do you know.   :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 20, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.

 :users:
its also probably time to get rid of the walkman grandpa.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 20, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.

 :users:
its also probably time to get rid of the walkman grandpa.

Would it change any opinions if I said it had a very modest antenna and was colored in a stylish yellow and black?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 20, 2011, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 20, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.

 :users:
its also probably time to get rid of the walkman grandpa.

Would it change any opinions if I said it had a very modest antenna and was colored in a stylish yellow and black?
Yes.  Now I want to murder you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 20, 2011, 11:28:27 PM
The professionals that mow my lawn always wear jeans and ear protection.    :dunno:

Don't think they tuck in their shirts, but I'll pay more attention next time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
Quote from: Rams on April 20, 2011, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 20, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: wiley on April 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 20, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

I have hearing protection, but it has a radio in it.

I kind of like having something to listen to while I mow.

 :users:

ear buds, stop embarrassing your children.

 :users:
its also probably time to get rid of the walkman grandpa.

Would it change any opinions if I said it had a very modest antenna and was colored in a stylish yellow and black?
Yes.  Now I want to murder you.

Probably pretty easy to do since I won't be able to hear you coming for me.

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 20, 2011, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 20, 2011, 11:28:27 PM
The professionals that mow my lawn always wear jeans and ear protection.    :dunno:

Don't think they tuck in their shirts, but I'll pay more attention next time.

If it's something you do all day, then yeah I'm down with that

Maybe an insurance issue?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 20, 2011, 11:38:46 PM
Quote from: pike on April 20, 2011, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 20, 2011, 11:28:27 PM
The professionals that mow my lawn always wear jeans and ear protection.    :dunno:

Don't think they tuck in their shirts, but I'll pay more attention next time.

If it's something you do all day, then yeah I'm down with that

Maybe an insurance issue?

Could be an insurance issue.  I would ask, but we have a language barrier.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 21, 2011, 06:53:44 AM
If there's one thing that's really hip it's hearing loss.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 07:22:44 AM
the crew that mows my yard are all high school/college aged kids.  they do a bang up job.  during their break time they pull their mowers up next to each other and smoke cigarettes.  now that everyone is finally starting to accept my 0% prognostication this thread has taken an interesting turn. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 07:55:24 AM
Quote
cd1015 Corey Dean
The Pig Out for Parkinsons is today at Cox Bro's BBQ. We're live from 11 - 1. Grab some grub for a great cause and meet Frank Martin

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 08:19:51 AM
Quote from: VGibsonLives on April 20, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Quote from: sys on April 20, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 20, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote
dailythunder Royce Young
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin is in the crowd tonight. He's not wearing the blue shirt but did have it draped across his chest.
56 minutes ago


kstate hasn't been associated with any okc recruits that i know of.  could have come up from dfw or down from wichita, i suppose.  though gates reported underwood in wichita for ellis.  i would assume he would have reported martin too, if he had been there.

joannachadwick Joanna Chadwick
KU's Bill Self, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall and assistants from Oklahoma and K-State were at Heights for pickup games tonight.

that's good.  frank's too busy watching the thunder and texting Miami's new AD to make it to watch ellis.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:23:11 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 08:19:51 AM
Quote from: VGibsonLives on April 20, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Quote from: sys on April 20, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 20, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote
dailythunder Royce Young
Kansas State basketball coach Frank Martin is in the crowd tonight. He's not wearing the blue shirt but did have it draped across his chest.
56 minutes ago


kstate hasn't been associated with any okc recruits that i know of.  could have come up from dfw or down from wichita, i suppose.  though gates reported underwood in wichita for ellis.  i would assume he would have reported martin too, if he had been there.

joannachadwick Joanna Chadwick
KU's Bill Self, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall and assistants from Oklahoma and K-State were at Heights for pickup games tonight.

that's good.  frank's too busy watching the thunder and texting Miami's new AD to make it to watch ellis.

he's been visiting better recruits
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?

this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

:pbj:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 08:40:59 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?

this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

:pbj:

So, swinging for the fences again, with fall back positions of Te Irving and Canadian JC guard types.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 21, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: Ira Hayes on April 20, 2011, 11:28:27 PM
The professionals that mow my lawn always wear jeans and ear protection.    :dunno:

Don't think they tuck in their shirts, but I'll pay more attention next time.

I'll always mow my own lawn.  ALWAYS.  I may eventually have a live in maid and personal chef, but I'm still going to mow my own lawn.  Matter of fact, I may pull a Forest Gump and sell my company for millions and just mow lawns all day for free.  There's some extremely cathartic about it to me.  Some people pray.  Some people meditate.  I mow.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 08:53:54 AM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 07:55:24 AM
Quote
cd1015 Corey Dean
The Pig Out for Parkinsons is today at Cox Bro's BBQ. We're live from 11 - 1. Grab some grub for a great cause and meet Frank Martin

 :users:


He'll cancel.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2011, 09:02:30 AM
i mow myself with a rebuilt mower from craigslist.  it's self propelled, but i just push it for extra exercise.  yep.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 21, 2011, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Rick Daris on April 20, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:

the god damn hearing protection is the biggest tuck part of the picture. yeah dumbass, you really need to protect your ears w/ that god damn push mower of yours. god damn jesus eff. i mean seriously. "oh my god, this sears craftsman of mine and all, i better put some hearing protection on."   :flush:

Quote from: Hank Hill
While safety goggles make you look cool, they also are a necessary piece of safety equipment
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 21, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
I'll always mow my own lawn.  ALWAYS.  I may eventually have a live in maid and personal chef, but I'm still going to mow my own lawn.  Matter of fact, I may pull a Forest Gump and sell my company for millions and just mow lawns all day for free.  There's some extremely cathartic about it to me.  Some people pray.  Some people meditate.  I mow.  :dunno:

Agreed. I have about 2 acres, most of which is mowed with a 42" Craftsman Lawn Tractor. Takes about 2 hours. Very enjoyable while listening to some Pandora radio on my Droid Incredible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:
Hey hayseed, chaps are inherently ass-less.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 21, 2011, 09:49:25 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthytippingpoint.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2FDacshunds.jpg&hash=07cf44c86a838cbd316314dd75a001385a652c1f)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?

this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

:pbj:

you make a case that any elite recruit that frank or his staff watch is a waste of time. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 21, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Tortuga on April 21, 2011, 09:49:25 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthytippingpoint.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2FDacshunds.jpg&hash=07cf44c86a838cbd316314dd75a001385a652c1f)

<------Has 2. Married into one and bought the second to distract my wife from wanting kids. Loved them before I had children.  Now free to a good home.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 21, 2011, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 08:40:59 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?

this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

:pbj:

So, swinging for the fences again, with fall back positions of Te Irving and Canadian JC guard types.


It's better than swinging for the Te Irving and Canadian JC guard types.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Irving was not a bad fall back option.  He had legit high valley offers. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 10:20:25 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Irving was not a bad fall back option.  He had legit high valley offers. 

Fantastic BBS'ing right there.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 08:40:59 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: rcjh88 on April 21, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
He's not going to get Ellis anyway, why waste his time?

this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

:pbj:

So, swinging for the fences again, with fall back positions of Te Irving and Canadian JC guard types.


they never really swung for the fences after the Judge and McGruder commitments. I mean, I know Boynton mentioned us, but I don't recall us being spotted in a gym where he was like they were with MANY elites earlier this week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Irving was not a bad fall back option.  He had legit high valley offers.  

He did have an offer from and visited a Final Four team.

 :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 21, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Irving was not a bad fall back option.  He had legit high valley offers.  

He did have an offer from and visited a Final Four team.

 :users:


Is Richmond, VA, considered the Bible Belt?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 21, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 21, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Irving was not a bad fall back option.  He had legit high valley offers.  

He did have an offer from and visited a Final Four team.

 :users:


Is Richmond, VA, considered the Bible Belt?
No it's in the slavery belt, well, at least according to some EMAJs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 21, 2011, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 07:22:44 AM
the crew that mows my yard are all high school/college aged kids.  they do a bang up job.  during their break time they pull their mowers up next to each other and smoke cigarettes.  now that everyone is finally starting to accept my 0% prognostication this thread has taken an interesting turn. 

I don't know who mows the grounds at my weekday residence.  It just gets mowed and looks fantastic.

I mow the yard at the summer lake house, for the exercise.  I do it shirtless so the neighbor's wife can pretend her husband is me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 10:34:41 AM
Also: the smell of freshly cut grass is fantastic. As is the smell of spring rain.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 21, 2011, 10:43:15 AM
This thread is  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChEtah on April 21, 2011, 11:38:35 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 21, 2011, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: Rams on April 21, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
I'll always mow my own lawn.  ALWAYS.  I may eventually have a live in maid and personal chef, but I'm still going to mow my own lawn.  Matter of fact, I may pull a Forest Gump and sell my company for millions and just mow lawns all day for free.  There's some extremely cathartic about it to me.  Some people pray.  Some people meditate.  I mow.  :dunno:

Agreed. I have about 2 acres, most of which is mowed with a 42" Craftsman Lawn Tractor. Takes about 2 hours. Very enjoyable while listening to some Pandora radio on my Droid Incredible.

I mow with a 52 inch Hustler Super Z.  It is made is Hesston, Kansas, which qualifies it as an EMAW mower.  The admins should hit them up to sponsor this site.

Slightly off topic, but do we have a new coach yet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Dax's Frank Martin Watch Alert Status:

Frankcon 2 . . . I repeat Frankcon 2.

Developing . . .
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Dax's Frank Martin Watch Alert Status:

Frankcon 2 . . . I repeat Frankcon 2.

Developing . . .

:excited:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 21, 2011, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Dax's Frank Martin Watch Alert Status:

Frankcon 2 . . . I repeat Frankcon 2.

Developing . . .
deets pleez
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 21, 2011, 11:48:49 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Just my thoughts.

AR not signing, he's clearly being told not to . . . the whole Miami hiring process is being slow rolled (again My Opinion) to give time to "explain" Frank to Shalala types, I suspect that Miami money types want Frank, and they're saying so, and likely make a strong play that this Jeter guy doesn't have Frank's recruiting ties.    There's likely all kinds of stuff going on behind the scenes to put it all together. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 21, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:
Hey hayseed, chaps are inherently ass-less.
please note the specific ass cut out.  Come to the big city and I will open your eyes.


And to those wondering about hearing protection, yes there is an insurance issue.  Also you should not use headphones while mowing.  Get and over the ear muff and then ear buds or some sort of integrated system.  If you are just using your head phones and listening to music you will have to increase the volume a lot to hear the music over the mower.  
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 21, 2011, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Just my thoughts.

AR not signing, he's clearly being told not to . . . the whole Miami hiring process is being slow rolled (again My Opinion) to give time to "explain" Frank to Shalala types, I suspect that Miami money types want Frank, and they're saying so, and likely make a strong play that this Jeter guy doesn't have Frank's recruiting ties.    There's likely all kinds of stuff going on behind the scenes to put it all together. 



seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 12:01:29 PM
I just think Art and Shaky live in their own bizarro (and highly entertaining) world and Angel is pulled into it.

And I don't think Miami is into playing some smoke-screen game to get Frank. More proof: http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/28705752

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
1%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 12:09:56 PM
Dax just got bodyslammed by Gary Parrish.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:21:05 PM
Yeah, because when an AD is in discussions with a coach about a job, that absolutely means the job will ultimately be offered.   :rolleyes: 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 12:23:17 PM
Gary Parrish just took the ball from Dax, drained a fadeaway 3 and walked off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2011, 12:23:56 PM
Yeah, because when the Miami hiring process has taken longer than expected, that means there is a 70% chance Frank will be hired.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
When's Angel signing fellas, thought that was going down 2 days ago, how long has the early signing period been open now, a week right??  How come AR hasn't signed his LOI??

If Frank's not going anywhere, how come AR hasn't put his signature on the line that his dotted over a week into the signing period??



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Dax just got finished raking his yard full of leaves, and Gary Parrish just came through and jumped in his piles.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MeatSauce on April 21, 2011, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
When's Angel signing fellas, thought that was going down 2 days ago, how long has the early signing period been open now, a week right??  How come AR hasn't signed his LOI??

If Frank's not going anywhere, how come AR hasn't put his signature on the line that his dotted over a week into the signing period??


If that's worth 70%, what do interviewed candidates Jeter and Larranaga come in at?  :users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Ell full of angst and hoping for the best, but still won't answer the question.  Why hasn't AR signed his LOI?  He's committed to Frank Martin right?  Isn't that what all the tucks, powertards, frankites and emawtards say.  So if AR is committed to Frank Martin, and if the prospect of Frank Martin leaving K-State has null/void/settled, why hasn't the Art controlled Angel Rodriquez signed his LOI??

Meat . . . have Jeter and Larranega been offered the job??   


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
I think in today's twitter reporting world, sources and leaks are going to get out there. The trend in the past week has been moving away from Frank (especially by the Miami locals) and towards others, namely Jeter and now Larranaga. I'm not willing to give the sources and leaks enough credit to believe they could dry up the Martin to Miami talk while behind the scenes it was actually increasing and at the same time letting out the smoke screens of Jeter/Larranaga. I think its giving way too much credit to the mess that has been the Miami coaching search to believe that they could pull that off and get Martin in there. It just seems clear to me that no one in any power at Miami to hire a coach or influence the hire wants Frank Martin.

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
When's Angel signing fellas, thought that was going down 2 days ago, how long has the early signing period been open now, a week right??  How come AR hasn't signed his LOI??

If Frank's not going anywhere, how come AR hasn't put his signature on the line that his dotted over a week into the signing period??

Name me the Art/Shaky signee that has gone completely according to some sort of logical plan? I just think Art/Shaky have told Angel to wait until Miami hires their coach to make absolutely sure that Frank is staying at K-State. I'm sure Frank doesn't care either way, he trusts those guys to get him the players he wants. The signing period doesn't end until mid-May anyway. I would only be concerned if info was getting out there that some other high-major was making a run at Angel while he waited, and there has been nothing like that out there.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Thanks for making my point FAN . . . Art and Shaky both know that Frank and Miami is still in play and anybody who thinks that isn't the case is just a dumbass.

In about 80% of coaching searches AD's talk to more than 1 guy, so Tweets about the Miami AD talking to this coach or that coach don't mean all that much.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 21, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Thanks for making my point FAN . . . Art and Shaky both know that Frank and Miami is still in play and anybody who thinks that isn't the case is just a dumbass.

In about 80% of coaching searches AD's talk to more than 1 guy, so Tweets about the Miami AD talking to this coach or that coach don't mean all that much.





Until Miami announces a coach not named Frank Martin there is always a chance, I just think it is still extremely slight.

And I'm not talking about the Parrish tweet, I'm talking about those from around Miami the past couple of days. All of them point to Miami not going after Frank at this point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 12:45:13 PM
Dax just boarded a US Airways flight in coach, only to see Gary Parrish on the same flight posted up in first class.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 12:45:13 PM
Dax just boarded a US Airways flight in coach, only to see Gary Parrish on the same flight posted up in first class.

It's US Airways, on many flights they don't have 1st class, and on the one's they do, who  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:51:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 21, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Thanks for making my point FAN . . . Art and Shaky both know that Frank and Miami is still in play and anybody who thinks that isn't the case is just a dumbass.

In about 80% of coaching searches AD's talk to more than 1 guy, so Tweets about the Miami AD talking to this coach or that coach don't mean all that much.





Until Miami announces a coach not named Frank Martin there is always a chance, I just think it is still extremely slight.

And I'm not talking about the Parrish tweet, I'm talking about those from around Miami the past couple of days. All of them point to Miami not going after Frank at this point.

There's always 15 things going on behind the scenes that people don't even know about in these deals.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 21, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
I was at about a 40% chance Frank gets hired before. The 'we want a guy who respects his players' talk moved it to about a 15% chance.

Still a chance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
Well I suppose if you buy into the necessary feel good P.R. talk than you've probably got a point Brick.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 01:16:48 PM
0%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 21, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
i also say 0%. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 21, 2011, 01:28:10 PM
Wonder how Frank feels being UM's standby ho? They're gonna try everyone else first, and if nobody takes them, they'll go back to FM (who will be ready by the phone).

All the AR non-signing tells me is exactly how much FM wants to go. Even when all signs show that UM doesn't want FM, FM is telling AR to sit steady while he's going mad with hope that he actually gets a call from UM. Must be a massive blow to FMs ego. One would think anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 21, 2011, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on April 21, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
i also say 0%. 

I do too, and I've been wanting this to happen for the last 15 months, back when I thought Miami would never bring Frank Haith back for 2010-11.

The new AD came out and said what he's looking for in a coach. Frank Martin fit none of the criteria.

It's over.  :frown:


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: ednksu on April 21, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 20, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 20, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Chingon on April 20, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 20, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 20, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 20, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Even after that very informational thread, I can't figure out WTF Kstateo is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kstateo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=945

It's pretty great that this pulls up the national ag safety database, too (complete with tuck)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnasdonline.org%2Fstatic_content%2Fdocuments%2F1943%2F26.gif&hash=528813d56e00ef2828471987d93a9467bed2dca6)

looks shirtless to me :horrorsurprise:


Only a tuck would mow their yard with their shirt tucked in, or possibly even shirtless.  And of course wearing jeans while mowing.
ass-less chaps :horrorsurprise:
Hey hayseed, chaps are inherently ass-less.
please note the specific ass cut out.  Come to the big city and I will open your eyes. 

Then those would be pants, not chaps.  Hayseed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
EllToPay bringing it strong today.  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Nothing like making a 61 year old, soon to be 62 year old life time mid major coach the top target for an ACC program.   Nothing says "we're serious about basketball" than that (potential) hire.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 21, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Nothing like making a 61 year old, soon to be 62 year old life time mid major coach the top target for an ACC program.   Nothing says "we're serious about basketball" than that (potential) hire.

 :rolleyes:

That's why it's a garbage job and nobody in their right mind (who could do better) would actually want to coach there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on April 21, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Nothing like making a 61 year old, soon to be 62 year old life time mid major coach the top target for an ACC program.   Nothing says "we're serious about basketball" than that (potential) hire.

 :rolleyes:

That's why it's a garbage job and nobody in their right mind (who could do better) would actually want to coach there.

Yet Frank in so many words practically begged for the job.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
one thing is for certain.  frank isn't trying to bring high profile recruits to kstate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChEtah on April 21, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
I wonder if Frank listened to Haith's introduction press conference.  He pretty much gave a 20 minute explanation of why the U sucks at basketball and why the NIT was the best they were ever going to do given the support from the alumni, school, and local fan base.  This was also his basis for why he was mediocre in Miami but will be the crap in Missouri. 

Frank obviously wants to go home bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
When's Angel signing fellas, thought that was going down 2 days ago, how long has the early signing period been open now, a week right??  How come AR hasn't signed his LOI??

If Frank's not going anywhere, how come AR hasn't put his signature on the line that his dotted over a week into the signing period??

dax, just because martin thinks he has a chance, doesn't mean he has a chance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
When's Angel signing fellas, thought that was going down 2 days ago, how long has the early signing period been open now, a week right??  How come AR hasn't signed his LOI??

If Frank's not going anywhere, how come AR hasn't put his signature on the line that his dotted over a week into the signing period??

dax, just because martin thinks he has a chance, doesn't mean he has a chance.

Yet, you have no idea if he doesn't.   Clearly Team Frank still thinks he has a chance.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
this is true. I actually bitched about him paying so much attention to Ellis when he probably had a better chance with other elite recruits that he was ignoring. But now he's not ignoring the other elites!

1.  kstate still has a small chance.  it's down a lot from self's (otherwise funny) nosedive in '11 recruiting, but he could concievably still pull something out his ass in '11 and get other early '12s.
2.  it's important for perception to compete for elite instate talent.  if you accept your own status as second tier, it makes it very easy for everyone else to do the same.  competing for elites makes you a more acceptable choice for the top 50-150 type locals that ku routinely passes up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Yet, you have no idea if he doesn't.   Clearly Team Frank still thinks he has a chance.

i'm a lot smarter than martin is, and not as emotionally invested.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Yet, you have no idea if he doesn't.   Clearly Team Frank still thinks he has a chance.

i'm a lot smarter than martin is, and not as emotionally invested.

Grats sys . . . but that changes nothing.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 02:53:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
2.  it's important for perception to compete for elite instate talent.  if you accept your own status as second tier, it makes it very easy for everyone else to do the same.  competing for elites makes you a more acceptable choice for the top 50-150 type locals that ku routinely passes up.

that's a really good point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 02:53:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
2.  it's important for perception to compete for elite instate talent.  if you accept your own status as second tier, it makes it very easy for everyone else to do the same.  competing for elites makes you a more acceptable choice for the top 50-150 type locals that ku routinely passes up.

that's a really good point.

it is.  glad we sent Unds.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

I actually LOVE that idea.  If he's off the blow, he's ready to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

I actually LOVE that idea.  If he's off the blow, he's ready to go.

I would prefer he was not off the blow
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 21, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

I actually LOVE that idea.  If he's off the blow, he's ready to go.

I would prefer he was not off the blow

I think Pete was on the blow when he posted that he wanted Quinn off the blow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2011, 02:53:47 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
2.  it's important for perception to compete for elite instate talent.  if you accept your own status as second tier, it makes it very easy for everyone else to do the same.  competing for elites makes you a more acceptable choice for the top 50-150 type locals that ku routinely passes up.

that's a really good point.

it is.  glad we sent Unds.

You're forcing this meltdown pretty hard. :jerk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 21, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

I actually LOVE that idea.  If he's off the blow, he's ready to go.

I would prefer he was not off the blow

I think Pete was on the blow when he posted that he wanted Quinn off the blow.

Are you suggesting that it was the blow that made him the dynamic recruiter and impassioned instructor?  You prolly have a point if you are saying that (cough, cough, venables,  mike stoops, cough, cough)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 03:41:40 PM
cassidy & alvarez on 1350 @ 4:00.

 :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 21, 2011, 03:52:16 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 21, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

I actually LOVE that idea.  If he's off the blow, he's ready to go.

I would prefer he was not off the blow

I think Pete was on the blow when he posted that he wanted Quinn off the blow.

Are you suggesting that it was the blow that made him the dynamic recruiter and impassioned instructor?  You prolly have a point if you are saying that (cough, cough, venables,  mike stoops, cough, cough)

Everything was better on the blow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 03:41:40 PM
cassidy & alvarez on 1350 @ 4:00.

 :D

cassidy lied, alvarez not coming on till 5:10.  why the delay, cassidy!?!

 :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
 :chainsaw: :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 21, 2011, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
Well I suppose if you buy into the necessary feel good P.R. talk than you've probably got a point Brick.



It wasn't feel good P.R.

It was an obvious reference to Frank. A personal dig. Seems so to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
"Angel will go where Frank goes".

Translation: Angel will sign his LOI when Miami hires a coach.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
"Angel will go where Frank goes".

Translation: Angel will sign his LOI when Miami hires a coach.





Meaning Frank and Miami are still very much in play. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
"Angel will go where Frank goes".

Translation: Angel will sign his LOI when Miami hires a coach.





Meaning Frank and Miami are still very much in play. 



I'm with _FAN on this.  I think they want him to be in play, but they're the only ones keeping this alive.

Miami has pretty much done everything but flat out say they aren't interested, and the only people keeping this alive are Art and Shakey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 21, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
LARRANAGA GENESIS!
After passing on Frank Martin, Miami prez
targets crusty old dude from George Mason

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics8.nytimes.com%2Fimages%2Fblogs%2Fthequad%2Flarranagaobama.JPG&hash=32d75feeb2ff9ef98774dabda0209952e5457660)
"Yes, I'm absolutely a better head coach than Frank Martin,"
Larranaga said. "I got two words for you: Final Four!"

George Mason University men’s basketball coach Jim Larranaga is reportedly a serious candidate for the head coaching vacancy at the University of Miami. A Patriots’ spokesperson has confirmed that the 61-year-old Larranaga was given permission to interview with Miami athletic department officials.

“We can confirm that Miami reached out and we have granted permission for Coach Larranaga to speak with Miami,” said Dan Reisig, the George Mason University Athletic Communications Director for Men’s Basketball. “Other than that I'm not sure of any other details.”

Gary Parrish of CBSSports.com also reported on Thursday that Larranaga “has had serious discussions with Miami officials about the coaching vacancy.”
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 05:44:41 PM
re. ar-t signinggate - lawrence hasn't signed yet either, why isn't anyone all mad as hell and not going to post nice stuff about martin on messageboards anymore about that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 21, 2011, 05:45:05 PM
Frank to George Mason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 05:44:41 PM
re. ar-t signinggate - lawrence hasn't signed yet either, why isn't anyone all mad as hell and not going to post nice stuff about martin on messageboards anymore about that?

cause lawrence not signing isn't a sign that frank is doing everything he can and/or believing with every ounce of his soul that a miami offer is on the way.  it's really pathetic.  i'm waiting for a nice clip of martin saying "I'm ready for my close-up Mr. Demille".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 21, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
Does Omari even need to sign an LOI?  He's not getting a schollie, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
cause lawrence not signing isn't a sign that frank is doing everything he can and/or believing with every ounce of his soul that a miami offer is on the way.

why not?  what else would lawrence be waiting for?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 21, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
Does Omari even need to sign an LOI?  He's not getting a schollie, right?

no one has to sign, he will be on scholarship.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: cas4ksu on April 21, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Bring in Quin.

Definitely my 2nd and 3rd choice.

1. oscar Pearl
2. Quin on blow
3. Quin not on blow

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:19:40 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
cause lawrence not signing isn't a sign that frank is doing everything he can and/or believing with every ounce of his soul that a miami offer is on the way.

why not?  what else would lawrence be waiting for?

now you're just being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:19:40 PM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
why not?  what else would lawrence be waiting for?

now you're just being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

in what way?  give another plausible reason to wait, if you can come up with one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Art Alverez just told me Gloria Estefan lobbied Miami to interview Frank Martin. Fantastic radio on @1350kman this afternoon.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
 :emawkid:

http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I (http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
I'm dropping my % to 50.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Art Alverez just told me Gloria Estefan lobbied Miami to interview Frank Martin. Fantastic radio on @1350kman this afternoon.

 :horrorsurprise:

I honestly think Art Alvarez is the AAU version of Gary Busey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 21, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
HOW AM I DOING TODAY ART ALVEREZ?  YOU'RE DOING GREAT!!!  THANKS, I'LL KEEP IT UP!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Art Alverez just told me Gloria Estefan lobbied Miami to interview Frank Martin. Fantastic radio on @1350kman this afternoon.

 :horrorsurprise:

I honestly think Art Alvarez is the AAU version of Gary Busey.

no...Art's a warlock and drinks tiger blood.  Art is WINNING.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 21, 2011, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
:emawkid:

http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I (http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I)


So, it's over?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 07:07:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
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robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Art Alverez just told me Gloria Estefan lobbied Miami to interview Frank Martin. Fantastic radio on @1350kman this afternoon.

 :horrorsurprise:

I honestly think Art Alvarez is the AAU version of Gary Busey.

no...Art's a warlock and drinks tiger blood.  Art is WINNING.

Could Gloria Estefan lobby for a free Maple Bacon Sundae at Denny's?  When was the last time she was relevant?  1994?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Quote

@Englishscope24
Kim English
 I hope Frank Martin stays at #KState. Def one of the funnest coaches to play against. Always raps with me whenever inbounding by their bench

see, frank, everyone loves you, you f'ing insecure prick.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 07:07:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Scary Smart on April 21, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
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robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Art Alverez just told me Gloria Estefan lobbied Miami to interview Frank Martin. Fantastic radio on @1350kman this afternoon.

 :horrorsurprise:

I honestly think Art Alvarez is the AAU version of Gary Busey.

no...Art's a warlock and drinks tiger blood.  Art is WINNING.

Could Gloria Estefan lobby for a free Maple Bacon Sundae at Denny's?  When was the last time she was relevant?  1994?

can't is the cancer of happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 07:34:39 PM
Hey dumbasses, Jim Larranaga to Miami.

*sources
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2011, 07:36:15 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I#ixzz1KCYxa1RG

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George Mason coach Jim Larranaga is meeting with his players Thursday night, a strong sign he is leaving to take the head coaching job at Miami, a source told The Post.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I#ixzz1KCxDbBCo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 21, 2011, 07:36:15 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I#ixzz1KCYxa1RG

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George Mason coach Jim Larranaga is meeting with his players Thursday night, a strong sign he is leaving to take the head coaching job at Miami, a source told The Post.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/george_mason_coach_leaving_for_miami_A2jPE1xg3uUsETvk0pSg6I#ixzz1KCxDbBCo

sorry frank, you're stuck with us for one more year. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2011, 07:55:30 PM
IT'S LARRANAGA   :runaway:

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goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Source said no team meeting at George Mason.
4 minutes ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
Omg this going to be great. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 21, 2011, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 21, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
Omg this going to be great. :popcorn:

Dear God.  This is going to go on until June.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bruce on April 21, 2011, 08:22:04 PM
GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Updated Larranaga/Miami story: http://bit.ly/fiWCBQ It's not done. He remains undecided.

Edit: Post #69  :party: :lick:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
most of you people are retards
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 21, 2011, 08:41:50 PM
RCB15 Rion Brown
WE FINALLY GOT A COACH...THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!!
44 minutes ago Favorite Reply
 :woot: :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
Hahaha.

Frank to Miami afterall.

But only after Amaker, Larranaga, the dumbass from Wisconsin Green Bay and every other scrub mid-major coach in the country turns the job down.

JFC.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2011, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
most of you people are retards

What %?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 11:56:25 PM
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Larranaga, a 61-year-old New York native who reportedly has Cuban ancestry.

boom, estefan is appeased.



http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/21/2179385/um-likely-to-hire-george-mason.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on April 22, 2011, 01:14:25 AM
Quote from: sys on April 21, 2011, 11:56:25 PM
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Larranaga, a 61-year-old New York native who reportedly has Cuban ancestry.

boom, estefan is appeased.



http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/21/2179385/um-likely-to-hire-george-mason.html

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 22, 2011, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: wildcat1979 on April 21, 2011, 08:41:50 PM
RCB15 Rion Brown
WE FINALLY GOT A COACH...THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!!
44 minutes ago Favorite Reply
 :woot: :ksu:


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: youchooseausername on April 22, 2011, 02:39:57 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
Hahaha.

Frank to Miami afterall.

But only after Amaker, Larranaga, the dumbass from Wisconsin Green Bay and every other scrub mid-major coach in the country turns the job down.

JFC.




Say what?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 22, 2011, 06:57:13 AM
Quote from: youchooseausername on April 22, 2011, 02:39:57 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 21, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
Hahaha.

Frank to Miami afterall.

But only after Amaker, Larranaga, the dumbass from Wisconsin Green Bay and every other scrub mid-major coach in the country turns the job down.

JFC.




Say what?

Wouldn't be surprised to see him Amaker Miami and milk another 100 grand out of George Mason.




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank

it's kind of hilarious that a coach (frank) that seems to be so insecure and needs to feel wanted, is letting himself be treated like a $2 whore and is just giddy about it.  amaker, larranaga, that stupid UW-Milwaukee coach....all wanted by Miami.  frank?  not so much, until all those guys said "no".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 07:23:08 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank

it's kind of hilarious that a coach (frank) that seems to be so insecure and needs to feel wanted, is letting himself be treated like a $2 whore and is just giddy about it.  amaker, larranaga, that stupid UW-Milwaukee coach....all wanted by Miami.  frank?  not so much, until all those guys said "no".

I think Frank knows why they don't want him and has moved on. And I find it highly unlikely that they'll go through all these coaches and come back to Frank. They'll keep going through nice guy coaches until they find one that says yes, Frank just doesn't fit what they want.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:29:54 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 07:23:08 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank

it's kind of hilarious that a coach (frank) that seems to be so insecure and needs to feel wanted, is letting himself be treated like a $2 whore and is just giddy about it.  amaker, larranaga, that stupid UW-Milwaukee coach....all wanted by Miami.  frank?  not so much, until all those guys said "no".

I think Frank knows why they don't want him and has moved on. And I find it highly unlikely that they'll go through all these coaches and come back to Frank. They'll keep going through nice guy coaches until they find one that says yes, Frank just doesn't fit what they want.

yeah, but sooner or later the tards down there will say, oh well, we tried.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:55:42 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:29:54 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 07:23:08 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank

it's kind of hilarious that a coach (frank) that seems to be so insecure and needs to feel wanted, is letting himself be treated like a $2 whore and is just giddy about it.  amaker, larranaga, that stupid UW-Milwaukee coach....all wanted by Miami.  frank?  not so much, until all those guys said "no".

I think Frank knows why they don't want him and has moved on. And I find it highly unlikely that they'll go through all these coaches and come back to Frank. They'll keep going through nice guy coaches until they find one that says yes, Frank just doesn't fit what they want.

yeah, but sooner or later the tards down there will say, oh well, we tried.

with every nice guy that says no, the viva frank mob grows louder and louder.  next thing you know, fidel will be lobbying for frank. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rams on April 22, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 07:23:08 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 22, 2011, 07:07:54 AM
They have to hire frank

it's kind of hilarious that a coach (frank) that seems to be so insecure and needs to feel wanted, is letting himself be treated like a $2 whore and is just giddy about it.  amaker, larranaga, that stupid UW-Milwaukee coach....all wanted by Miami.  frank?  not so much, until all those guys said "no".

I think Frank knows why they don't want him and has moved on. And I find it highly unlikely that they'll go through all these coaches and come back to Frank. They'll keep going through nice guy coaches until they find one that says yes, Frank just doesn't fit what they want.

This. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
Angel should be signing anytime now...

http://bit.ly/hI8vjz
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
Angel should be signing anytime now...

http://bit.ly/hI8vjz

frank's going to need some cymbalta to get through this.  must be tough knowing that a 125year old coach is going to be living your dream in miami.  But chin up, frank, he'll die soon and you can start the Miami Soundmachine back up again and lobby for the job again. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 22, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
guess that about wraps this thread up.

mods, can we put this in the goEMAW HALL OF FAME?






mods, can we create a goEMAW HALL OF FAME?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
Angel should be signing anytime now...

http://bit.ly/hI8vjz

frank's going to need some cymbalta to get through this.  must be tough knowing that a 125year old coach is going to be living your dream in miami.  But chin up, frank, he'll die soon and you can start the Miami Soundmachine back up again and lobby for the job again. 

Meh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wildcat1979 on April 22, 2011, 10:04:33 AM
http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/28731914
 :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
Angel should be signing anytime now...

http://bit.ly/hI8vjz

frank's going to need some cymbalta to get through this.  must be tough knowing that a 125year old coach is going to be living your dream in miami.  But chin up, frank, he'll die soon and you can start the Miami Soundmachine back up again and lobby for the job again. 

Meh.

i'm sure kicking nick russell and rod off the team will give him the pick-me-up he needs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:08:22 AM
Quote
JasonBelzer Jason Belzer
New Miami AD with a knock out hire. Jim Larranga will get it done. Les not forget Frank Martin, couldn't get KState to the Final 4.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 22, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:08:22 AM
Quote
JasonBelzer Jason Belzer
New Miami AD with a knock out hire. Jim Larranga will get it done. Les not forget Frank Martin, couldn't get KState to the Final 4.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:24:18 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Dax's Frank Martin Watch Alert Status:

Frankcon 2 . . . I repeat Frankcon 2.

Developing . . .

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 22, 2011, 10:28:44 AM
some people trying too hard in here. also, i agree with ok_cat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 22, 2011, 10:28:44 AM
some people trying too hard in here. also, i agree with ok_cat.

This is/was a very fun thread. Just need to make sure we keep it in the system for 4-5 years from now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 22, 2011, 10:41:26 AM
If frank goes to george mason, he could probably take wally and rod.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:47:09 AM
The brass at K-State already had contingency plans in place earlier this week and last to start a coaching search, and Frank had gone silent.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:47:09 AM
The brass at K-State already had contingency plans in place earlier this week and last to start a coaching search, and Frank had gone silent.



I'm glad they had a plan at least.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
#butthurtdax
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
#butthurtdax

It's good to see you'll always be cheering your little ass off no matter what for the guy who openly lobbied for the worst job in the ACC Ell.

Grats . . .  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllToPay on April 22, 2011, 10:52:46 AM
Keep posting that inside info, Dax. You've got me clicking refresh every 3 minutes with those 'tidbits.'
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:54:03 AM
Quote from: EllToPay on April 22, 2011, 10:52:46 AM
Keep posting that inside info, Dax. You've got me clicking refresh every 3 minutes with those 'tidbits.'

Grats Ell . . . you're a true Frankite.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on April 22, 2011, 11:00:08 AM
meh, thought this had the legs to outdistance the "smoke your cigars" thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 22, 2011, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:47:09 AM
The brass at K-State already had contingency plans in place earlier this week and last to start a coaching search, and Frank had gone silent.

so undies wasn't gonna get the nod then  :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Could you imagine the coaching search.... :excited: :users:

Im a little disappointed he's staying is that wrong?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 22, 2011, 11:11:33 AM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Could you imagine the coaching search.... :excited: :users:

Im a little disappointed he's staying is that wrong?
Coaching searches are very exciting time to be a fan. The whole future ahead of you with anything possible. But then reality crashes in and you're left with someone like Frank Haith.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on April 22, 2011, 11:12:36 AM
We are going to underappreciate President poopy pants airing it out with the media when a coach leaves. These guys are way too professional
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 5601js on April 22, 2011, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:08:22 AM
Quote
JasonBelzer Jason Belzer
New Miami AD with a knock out hire. Jim Larranga will get it done. Les not forget Frank Martin, couldn't get KState to the Final 4.

Never seen the man in my life, but based on this alone, it's obvious Jason Belzer strongly resembles a circus clown.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Whale on April 22, 2011, 12:04:08 PM
God damn it Miami.  First you fire your football coach before playing the q@s, giving OB a better shot at a win, and making it harder for Currie to fire him and get Leach; then you can't follow through on your basketball coaching search and cockblock Currie from hiring Pearl.


 :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 22, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Dalonte to George Mason?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2011, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 22, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Dalonte to George Mason?

Capel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2011, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 22, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Dalonte to George Mason?

would be a fantastic fit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on April 22, 2011, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 22, 2011, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 22, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Dalonte to George Mason?

would be a fantastic fit

pre-meltdown in order to tempt GMU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 12:43:28 PM
A classic name from early to mid 2000s recruiting chimes in...

Quote
GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio
Larranaga leaving George Mason for Miami is not much of a story...get a clue Shalala, your program is dead in the water...errr ocean! #sad

Quote
GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio
Shalala hired a search firm for this? I would've only taken $10,000 to to tell you to hire Frank Martin and start a real program. #TheU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 10:47:09 AM
The brass at K-State already had contingency plans in place earlier this week and last to start a coaching search, and Frank had gone silent.



Please tell me it started and ended with Pearl.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kaiser Soze on April 22, 2011, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Dax's Frank Martin Watch Alert Status:

Frankcon 2 . . . I repeat Frankcon 2.

Developing . . .

  :confused:  :blah:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
Tuckville has deduced that Frank to Miami was all just a "conspiracy", yet one of Frank's "top" recruits who is under the wings of Frank's Miami Mafia still hasn't signed and is clearly still waiting until contracts are signed between Miami and their new coach before the kid signs with Frank (K-State).   

Yet, it was all just a conspiracy theory.

I remind myself that these are the same people who thought Jon Wefald and Tim Weiser were the end all and the be all . . . now the new administration at K-State are firmly cementing the Wefald/Weiser period as Clown Suit USA.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Frank on with BITB at 4:30!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: oodfan on April 22, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Frank on with BITB at 4:30!
Said he couldn't do it at 4:00.  Busy with Angel?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 22, 2011, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Frank on with BITB at 4:30!

I hope this gets a podcast.  I'm going to be on a plane.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 22, 2011, 03:00:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 22, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 22, 2011, 03:00:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

 :lol: at what a crusty ancient dude miami hired...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: PowerCat96 on April 22, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 22, 2011, 03:00:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6409458&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

 :lol: at what a crusty ancient dude miami hired...

61

:frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on April 22, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
Not sure if this will help anybody else but Amazon has a free radio app today that works great if you have an Android phone.  Listening to 810 on it right now and it sounds good.

http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2011, 04:11:16 PM
810 has an android and blackberry app to listen live as well
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 22, 2011, 04:25:09 PM
I dloaded the radio pro app this morning and it isn't able to play 810 right now.  Opened the f(cking 810 app and IT isn't playing either. COME ON BITB!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-04-22/currie-no-worries-about-martin-miami
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2011, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-04-22/currie-no-worries-about-martin-miami

Quote
"I trusted him when he told me he was going to be at K-State and he was committed to K-State."

so damn smooth
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 22, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
Quote
"The people that have the right kind of values -- LHC Bill Snyder values, championship values, family values -- this is the right kind of place for them."

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 22, 2011, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

At least he doesn't hate young black athletes and their hopes and aspirations. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

Well squawk, Frank is currently about a 4.2 on the (10 point) Glen Mason Scale.  



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2011, 05:31:33 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

being quite the respect today, hope this doesn't continue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 22, 2011, 05:35:23 PM
larranaga was a done deal as soon as miami got the wiscy kid a.d.


http://www.midmajority.com/p/1785
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 22, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

haven't seen that on twitter at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 22, 2011, 06:57:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-04-22/currie-no-worries-about-martin-miami

Currie is just glad that he's still alive in the side bet between him and Frank over who can escape Manhattan first.

Good god that guy is so full of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2011, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 22, 2011, 06:57:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 22, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-04-22/currie-no-worries-about-martin-miami

Currie is just glad that he's still alive in the side bet between him and Frank over who can escape Manhattan first.

Good god that guy is so full of it.

He really wasn't all that worried about it. 

Sorry Frankites.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on April 22, 2011, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 22, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Goldbrick on April 17, 2011, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:41 PM

You're right, but I think most people Frank's action made Frank and Miami look like the jackasses in the situation, not KSU.

If he leaves, I agree with this.

If he gets rejected, he easily makes Ksu and its fans look like jackasses.



LOL, everyone is still laughing at Miami, not KSU.

Ksu is now about to full-scale rationalize the fact that their head coach badly wants to be somewhere else. Trust me, they (everyone) are laughing at Ksu just as much as Miami.

I think in all honesty, few of you even on this site will be able to look at Frank the same way or even your program the same way under Frank's control from here on out. He's too pathetic and too openly interested in other jobs, not to have some pride kick in. And it will kick in, when Frank goes about losing badly in the next few seasons.

Actually, pretty much everyone knew Miami was a special situation for Frank, and realized he would probably seriously consider going to there the next time it came up. Like I said earlier, it wasn't like he was whoring himself out for NC State or Oregon or DePaul - it was Miami, and I really don't have a problem with him trying to explore the possibility.

Furthermore, no one looked at KSU as a destination job before this. This changes nothing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on April 22, 2011, 08:00:17 PM
Didn't realize Goldbrick would be so butt hurt about Frank staying. #butthurtkufan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2011, 09:10:38 PM
Wow Currie is so good @ speaking to his target audience.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2011, 09:26:22 PM
surprised at how butthurt goldbrick is.  Never  took him for a huge sports fan.  who knew.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 23, 2011, 08:38:46 AM
Despite Goldy's Kansas State University education, he continues to be butthurt about all things KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 23, 2011, 09:12:20 AM
Quote from: Joker on April 23, 2011, 08:38:46 AM
Despite Goldy's Kansas State University education, he continues to be butthurt about all things KSU.
it is surprising, but you have to respect his ability to separate his sports loyalty from the obvious path to greater riches. Shunning the ku "education" was definitely a big boy move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 23, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
Quote from: KITNfury on April 23, 2011, 09:12:20 AM
Quote from: Joker on April 23, 2011, 08:38:46 AM
Despite Goldy's Kansas State University education, he continues to be butthurt about all things KSU.
it is surprising, but you have to respect his ability to separate his sports loyalty from the obvious path to greater riches. Shunning the ku "education" was definitely a big boy move.

Good point.

Because of KSU, he was able to break free from his life as a factory worker at McCall Pattern Company for a richer, more fulfilling life as a KSU grad.

Thanks KSU!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2011, 11:20:59 AM
The rich stay richer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 23, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
You guys will always suck
You guys will suck when Huggins leaves
You guys will suck when Beasley leaves
You guys will suck when Pullen leaves
You guys will suck when Martin leaves stays
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 23, 2011, 04:41:09 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 23, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
We will always suck
We will suck when Huggins leaves
We will suck when Beasley leaves
We will suck when Pullen leaves
We will suck when Martin leaves stays

I know plenty of people with this mentality*.  :dunno:

*myself included (to some extent)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 23, 2011, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 23, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
You guys will always suck
You guys will suck when Huggins leaves
You guys will suck when Beasley leaves
You guys will suck when Pullen leaves
You guys will suck when Martin leaves stays

classic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 23, 2011, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: I_have_purplewood on April 23, 2011, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 23, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
You guys will always suck
You guys will suck when Huggins leaves
You guys will suck when Beasley leaves
You guys will suck when Pullen leaves
You guys will suck when Martin leaves stays

classic.

I have said all those things. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 25, 2011, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 23, 2011, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: I_have_purplewood on April 23, 2011, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: felix rex on April 23, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
You guys will always suck
You guys will suck when Huggins leaves
You guys will suck when Beasley leaves
You guys will suck when Pullen leaves
You guys will suck when Martin leaves stays

classic.

I have said all those things. :lol:

You said it couldn't be done. . .
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 02:49:59 PM
Dalonte has got a couple of great jobs open calling his name right now  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
hobbs was a super hot name around the time we canned wooly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.

Very solid PF recruit may have just become available, Erik Copes from Philly, might be too much like Gipson for the KSU Cats to make a run at him, but should he decide to look for another school due to Hobbs being ousted, might be a really big late steal for somebody.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4499773
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on April 25, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
"But I thought they'd hire Frank Martin,'' Larranaga said...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6425776/larranaga-unique-opportunity-miami (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/6425776/larranaga-unique-opportunity-miami)


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
Conspiracy.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
If 'te doesn't get a sniff from George Washington he may as well pack it in now. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
If 'te doesn't get a sniff from George Washington he may as well pack it in now. 

Wasn't 'te on the OU rumor list at the beginning?    Gotta think if he made an OU list, he could make a GW list  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.

Very solid PF recruit may have just become available, Erik Copes from Philly, might be too much like Gipson for the KSU Cats to make a run at him, but should he decide to look for another school due to Hobbs being ousted, might be a really big late steal for somebody.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4499773


His Uncle is Roland Houston one of the assistants on that former staff of Hobbs.  Wouldn't you think his uncle would possibly leverage his commitment into a new assistant gig somewhere?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.

I remember when Hobbs was one of the hottest mid-major coaches out there. Several thought he would've been a good replacement for Huggs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 05:40:41 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.

Very solid PF recruit may have just become available, Erik Copes from Philly, might be too much like Gipson for the KSU Cats to make a run at him, but should he decide to look for another school due to Hobbs being ousted, might be a really big late steal for somebody.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4499773


His Uncle is Roland Houston one of the assistants on that former staff of Hobbs.  Wouldn't you think his uncle would possibly leverage his commitment into a new assistant gig somewhere?

I believe that would be construed as a "package deal" by the NCAA which has deemed those to be outlawed in the past couple years. Good thought, but don't think Houston could get away with it in the current NCAA landscape.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 25, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 05:40:41 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
George Washington coach Karl Hobbs has been let go, sources told FOXSports.com.


Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas assistant Joe Dooley played at George Washington in the mid-80's.

Very solid PF recruit may have just become available, Erik Copes from Philly, might be too much like Gipson for the KSU Cats to make a run at him, but should he decide to look for another school due to Hobbs being ousted, might be a really big late steal for somebody.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4499773


His Uncle is Roland Houston one of the assistants on that former staff of Hobbs.  Wouldn't you think his uncle would possibly leverage his commitment into a new assistant gig somewhere?

I believe that would be construed as a "package deal" by the NCAA which has deemed those to be outlawed in the past couple years. Good thought, but don't think Houston could get away with it in the current NCAA landscape.

I thought that only related to DOBO or some administrative staff.  I thought the rule basically forced you to make them an assistant coach.  I dunno.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 25, 2011, 06:15:24 PM
Yeah, pretty sure it only applies to non-coaching positions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 06:34:47 PM
"non-coaching positions" is the way the legislation reads which would lead you to believe that hiring the party as an assistant would be permissible.

All I can say is that ever since the rule was implemented(early 2009 I believe), I have not seen 1 instance of an assistant being brought on along with a player, aka the traditional package deal. I certainly could have missed it, but don't think there have been any high-profile exapmles.

Houston/Copes might be a good test of that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 25, 2011, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on April 25, 2011, 06:34:47 PM
"non-coaching positions" is the way the legislation reads which would lead you to believe that hiring the party as an assistant would be permissible.

it's fine for asst. coaches.  washington may be hiring jabari parker's brother in a few days.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 25, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
I'd be totally cool with hiring a new assistant every few years to secure a blue chip type of player.  Keep Figgs and Undie around and just use 'Te's position as a rotating recruiting tool.  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2011, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: jtksu on April 25, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
I'd be totally cool with hiring a new assistant every few years to secure a blue chip type of player.  Keep Figgs and Undie around and just use 'Te's position as a rotating recruiting tool.  :ck:

We do it with the players. Why not the coaches?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2011, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 25, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
If 'te doesn't get a sniff from George Washington he may as well pack it in now. 

Wasn't 'te on the OU rumor list at the beginning?    Gotta think if he made an OU list, he could make a GW list  :dunno:

No shot he was really on their list.  High majors no matter how little they care about basketball would have someone with Delonte's resume on their list for a head coaching job, it would be unprecedented.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2011, 06:59:40 AM
He was mentioned with Charlotte and something like Townson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 26, 2011, 08:41:54 AM
gwu should hire bozeman.  apparently they already employ his brother.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fr@ck me on April 26, 2011, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 25, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
If 'te doesn't get a sniff from George Washington he may as well pack it in now. 

Wasn't 'te on the OU rumor list at the beginning?    Gotta think if he made an OU list, he could make a GW list  :dunno:

is 'te the Venables of basketball assistants?  :ck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WavetheWheat on April 26, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
The third local school will be  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: soon if Popovich retires.  RC's first call will be to Bill.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 26, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 26, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
The third local school will be  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: soon if Popovich retires.  RC's first call will be to Bill.

He's got life pretty good.  Doubt he'd leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 26, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: doom on April 26, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 26, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
The third local school will be  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: soon if Popovich retires.  RC's first call will be to Bill.

He's got life pretty good.  Doubt he'd leave.

this.  The list of reasons to stay in Lawrence far out number the list of reasons to go someplace that will actually demand results.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: Limestone on April 26, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: doom on April 26, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: WavetheWheat on April 26, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
The third local school will be  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: soon if Popovich retires.  RC's first call will be to Bill.

He's got life pretty good.  Doubt he'd leave.

this.  The list of reasons to stay in Lawrence far out number the list of reasons to go someplace that will actually demand results.

Porn Stars
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 26, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
I don't know, the repeated stiff arms Bill has received from his top shelf recruiting targets  may make him consider the league more and more.

His son is what 15 or 16, right? If junior does not want and/or sucks so bad he can't play for Dad, I could see Bill getting very excited about creeping the riverwalk.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
He currently lives in Lawrence, KS.  He will leave if offered and would take a paycut to do so. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 26, 2011, 12:42:08 PM
42's occasionally daily texan axiom:

san antonio does not suck
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on April 26, 2011, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
He currently lives in Lawrence, KS.  He will leave if offered and would take a paycut to do so. 
Striking right to the heart of beaker insecurities. Well done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2011, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: fr@ck me on April 26, 2011, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 25, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
If 'te doesn't get a sniff from George Washington he may as well pack it in now. 

Wasn't 'te on the OU rumor list at the beginning?    Gotta think if he made an OU list, he could make a GW list  :dunno:

is 'te the Venables of basketball assistants?  :ck:

Situations aren't at all alike.  Not uncommon for a long time assistant to get a decent job in college football, it is extremely rare for it to happen in basketball.  Te' will get a job at a school like George Washington or Howard before he will be considered for a job like OU.  I sure BV could have had a FCS job by now if he wanted one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on May 05, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Maryland coach Gary Williams retiring, sources told FOXSports.com. Announcement could come as early as today - http://on-msn.com/msCIyL
2 minutes ago
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2011, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: doom on May 05, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Maryland coach Gary Williams retiring, sources told FOXSports.com. Announcement could come as early as today - http://on-msn.com/msCIyL
2 minutes ago

So Rutgers it is for Wallace
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2011, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on May 05, 2011, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: doom on May 05, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Maryland coach Gary Williams retiring, sources told FOXSports.com. Announcement could come as early as today - http://on-msn.com/msCIyL
2 minutes ago

So Rutgers it is for Wallace

I don't know that Gary Williams retiring would be a negative to Wally going there...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 05, 2011, 03:23:05 PM
seems like awfully late to decide this. weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 05, 2011, 03:23:05 PM
seems like awfully late to decide this. weird.

possible lute olsen stroke out scenario in play
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 05, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 05, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 05, 2011, 03:23:05 PM
seems like awfully late to decide this. weird.

possible lute olsen stroke out scenario in play

debbie yow making her move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 05, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
Quote
Maryland just became the most wanted job in America. I know coaches that would crawl there.

goddamn katz is fast.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on May 05, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: sys on May 05, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
Quote
Maryland just became the most wanted job in America. I know coaches that would crawl there.

goddamn katz is fast.

What about walk over hot coals?   :ohno:   :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 03:49:36 PM
Would be hilarious for Wally to sign with Maryland only to have Frank get hired as the new guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on May 05, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
What makes Maryland such a great job ('sides proximity to bball players)? Not insinuating that it isn't great, I really don't know much about them besides the basic to be honest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on May 05, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
What makes Maryland such a great job ('sides proximity to bball players)? Not insinuating that it isn't great, I really don't know much about them besides the basic to be honest.

History of Success(somewhat recent NC) and lots of good players close by.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 04:13:02 PM
Quote
franfraschilla Fran Fraschilla
Worked for Gary Williams at Ohio State.The guy won 668 games in 3 great leagues without cheating, not impossible but rare!
53 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
Quote
curtiskitchen Curtis Kitchen
RT @demathahoops: like everyone else, hearing Rick Barnes, Jay Wright as well as dark horse many won't hear. Who knows if they're interested
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 05, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
Maryland is way too good for Frank Martin.  Though maybe we might be able to get rid of Dead Weight 'Te when the new Maryland coach gets hired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 05, 2011, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 05, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
Quote
curtiskitchen Curtis Kitchen
RT @demathahoops: like everyone else, hearing Rick Barnes, Jay Wright as well as dark horse many won't hear. Who knows if they're interested

 :horrorsurprise:

the darkest horse of them all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 05, 2011, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: sys on May 05, 2011, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 05, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
Quote
curtiskitchen Curtis Kitchen
RT @demathahoops: like everyone else, hearing Rick Barnes, Jay Wright as well as dark horse many won't hear. Who knows if they're interested

 :horrorsurprise:

the darkest horse of them all.

todd bozeman is light skinned, I thought.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 05, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
Sean Miller is alleged to be the dark horse candidate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
So that might be fun.
52 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Rob Cassidy
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
After speaking with people plugged in at Maryland, I won't be surprised if Todd Bozeman finds his way into this search as a dark horse.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 05, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
So that might be fun.
52 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Rob Cassidy
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
After speaking with people plugged in at Maryland, I won't be surprised if Todd Bozeman finds his way into this search as a dark horse.

 :surprised:

Quote from: CNS Casey on May 05, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
So that might be fun.
52 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Rob Cassidy
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
After speaking with people plugged in at Maryland, I won't be surprised if Todd Bozeman finds his way into this search as a dark horse.

 :surprised:

Recently read Mitch Albom's "Fab Five" and saw his name in there and finally made the connection.  Didn't realize San Diego State's OBZ coach was the guy that recruited the fab five and won the title in 89.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on May 05, 2011, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 05, 2011, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: KITNfury on May 05, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
What makes Maryland such a great job ('sides proximity to bball players)? Not insinuating that it isn't great, I really don't know much about them besides the basic to be honest.

History of Success(somewhat recent NC) and lots of good players close by.


Yeah, know about all that. I guess I just never really think about them when "basketball powers" come up. I realize KSU doesn't either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on May 05, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Maryland is a pretty sweet job.  Not sure if it's because of Williams' work or not.  Probably location.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2011, 10:20:30 AM
Quote
Collegiate_hoop College Basketball
I'm hearing Jay Wrights name a lot for the #Terps head coaching vacancy
2 minutes ago

 :frown:

I like Jay where he is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on May 06, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Maryland sits in the center of prolly the best recruiting grounds in the country
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on May 06, 2011, 11:20:33 AM
Maryland is on the coast, right? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2011, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 06, 2011, 10:20:30 AM
Quote
Collegiate_hoop College Basketball
I'm hearing Jay Wrights name a lot for the #Terps head coaching vacancy
2 minutes ago

 :frown:

I like Jay where he is.

I think Jay likes Jay where he is too.  He would do well in the ACC though. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on May 06, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
College Park is a great place to coach and/or get stabbed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 07, 2011, 04:30:30 PM
Miller to Maryland seems to be a lock.

Pastner to Arizona? If so, who goes to Memphis?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2011, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on May 07, 2011, 04:30:30 PM
Miller to Maryland seems to be a lock.

Pastner to Arizona? If so, who goes to Memphis?

maybe when frank was walking on hot coals to Miami he stopped off in Memphis and made friends.   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on May 07, 2011, 04:43:17 PM
I think Hoiburg is the most logical candidate for Memphis.  He's got the experience working in moldy arenas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: penncat on May 08, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Looks like Miller is staying put at Arizona, next target is likely Stevens

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6504485 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6504485)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on May 08, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: penncat on May 08, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Looks like Miller is staying put at Arizona, next target is likely Stevens

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6504485 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6504485)

@goodmanonfox: Brad Stevens has spurned interest from Maryland, sources told FOXSports.com. Now it appears as though Mike Brey is next on the list.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 08, 2011, 11:53:41 AM
Brad is making me uncomfy turning down Maryland.  What is he waiting for?  And don't tell me "Indiana", 'cause Indiana over Maryland is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on May 08, 2011, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 08, 2011, 11:53:41 AM
Brad is making me uncomfy turning down Maryland.  What is he waiting for?  And don't tell me "Indiana", 'cause Indiana over Maryland is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

I don't know.  Any coach would crawl to a job with the chance to face Doc twice a year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 08, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
Capel is supposedly going to be an assistant at Duke.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on May 08, 2011, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on May 08, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
Capel is supposedly going to be an assistant at Duke.

 :eek:  They demoted an assistant to do it to, Nate James.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2011, 07:08:35 AM
http://www.kstatesports.com/blog/2011/05/hill-underwood-to-attend-villa-7.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
Quote from: Trim on May 09, 2011, 07:08:35 AM
http://www.kstatesports.com/blog/2011/05/hill-underwood-to-attend-villa-7.html

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: Scotch Underwood
"It's a nice honor for Dalonte and me to be invited," said Underwood
  :nono:

Quote from: Scotch Underwood
"One of the hardest things to do is keep up on the constantly changing business of trying to become a head basketball coach.  The days are gone where you have a head coach call an AD.  It's a lot more complicated now with all the search firms involved.
glad to see he's ready to move on


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2011, 09:38:31 AM
Quote from: pissclams on May 09, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: Scotch Underwood
"It's a nice honor for Dalonte and me to be invited," said Underwood
  :nono:

Actually, "and me" is the correct grammar in this sentence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on May 09, 2011, 09:46:03 AM
"It's a nice honor for I to be invited" :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on May 09, 2011, 09:38:31 AM
Quote from: pissclams on May 09, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: Scotch Underwood
"It's a nice honor for Dalonte and me to be invited," said Underwood
  :nono:

Actually, "and me" is the correct grammar in this sentence.
not if i say it's not.  sounds amateur hour.  sounds better to me like this "it's a nice honor for dalonte and I to be invited"  i don't care what the books say, you can shove the books up your dennison hall smelling ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on May 09, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
Maryland is reportedly going hard after Turg.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on May 09, 2011, 02:27:14 PM
Turd?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2011, 02:31:18 PM
Quote from: jtksu on May 09, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
Maryland is reportedly going hard after Turg.

Really? Do they know that Frank only makes $1.1 million?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 09, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
BITB throwing some gas on the fire today w/ "Would the Lakers make an offer to Self?  Would he consider? Just throwing that out there...  :fatty:"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 09, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on May 06, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Maryland sits in the center of prolly the best recruiting grounds in the country

At a school with a decent amount of $$ and that cares less about it's shitty football program than uk.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 09, 2011, 04:18:52 PM
Goodman thinks Turgeon takes the job and is about to announce another D1 opening within the hour.   :popcorn:

Update: Other coach was Navy's coach going to work under Jay Wright at 'Nova.  Pffft.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:30:52 PM
if it's true that he actually has an offer, he's gotta go.  you can't turn down maryland for a&m.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:30:52 PM
if it's true that he actually has an offer, he's gotta go.  you can't turn down maryland for a&m.

Brad Stevens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 09, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Brad Stevens.

different model.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 09, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:30:52 PM
if it's true that he actually has an offer, he's gotta go.  you can't turn down maryland for a&m.

Brad Stevens.

He's holding out for Indiana. That's every bit as good of a job as Maryland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on May 09, 2011, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on May 09, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 09, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:30:52 PM
if it's true that he actually has an offer, he's gotta go.  you can't turn down maryland for a&m.

Brad Stevens.

He's holding out for Indiana. That's every bit as good of a job as Maryland.

It's a better job, IMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Scary Smart on May 09, 2011, 07:02:58 PM
I always just figured that Fescoe said stupid crap when he was butthurt about KU stuff, but apparently he's a dumbass all the time.

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bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
btw, is Maryland a better job than TAMU? I don't think so
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on May 09, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
 :lol: if a&m is the BigXII school that has to go searching for a new coach this late in the game
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
See ya Turg.

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goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Maryland has hired Texas A&M's Mark Turgeon, source told FOXsports.com
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on May 09, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: joda on May 09, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
:lol: if a&m is the BigXII school that has to go searching for a new coach this late in the game

Yeah that really sucks. No one saw this coming a month ago.

But then again, it's aTm so they deserve bad things upon them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on May 09, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
Gonna miss that winey bitch and his stupid rough ridin' spot in his hair.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 09, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Gary Blair is the most obvious choice to fill the vacancy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pike on May 09, 2011, 08:11:59 PM
Does the coaching carousel usually last this long? At this rate we're gonna go into June
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2011, 08:18:13 PM
texags is pretty sweet right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
turgeon will build a monster at maryland.  a beautiful, fierce, dominating monster.


i wonder if malone is mad at hill, or just at kstate?  if turgeon chose to invite him along could he suddenly pull two years of dcas like the rutgers guy did when he left georgetown?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 09, 2011, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
turgeon will build a monster at maryland.  a beautiful, fierce, dominating monster.


i wonder if malone is mad at hill, or just at kstate?  if turgeon chose to invite him along could he suddenly pull two years of dcas like the rutgers guy did when he left georgetown?

Is there a chance of Turgeon doing this, or are you just playing the "what if?" game?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 08:46:33 PM
it's just what iffy.  but it's within the realm of possibility, if malone still likes hill.  turgeon isn't stupid.



on the other front,   :crossfingers: hire "doc" sadler or "dumbstick" fox.   :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on May 09, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: pike on May 09, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: joda on May 09, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
:lol: if a&m is the BigXII school that has to go searching for a new coach this late in the game

Yeah that really sucks. No one saw this coming a month ago.

But then again, it's aTm so they deserve bad things upon them

Agree... hope they have a nice epic fail coaching search and have to settle for the DOBO at TX-Pan Am
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 10:17:31 PM
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Jeff Capel to Duke may open the door for the Blue Devils into Perry Ellis' recruitment, per a source. "We will just have to wait and see."

 :surprised:

i remember from an old interview somewhere, or maybe from bbhoops, that ellis was a duke fan as a kid.  also capel was in texas recruiting randle and a 2014 teammate prior to his hiring being announced.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 10:17:31 PM
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Jeff Capel to Duke may open the door for the Blue Devils into Perry Ellis' recruitment, per a source. "We will just have to wait and see."

 :surprised:

i remember from an old interview somewhere, or maybe from bbhoops, that ellis was a duke fan as a kid.  also capel was in texas recruiting randle and a 2014 teammate prior to his hiring being announced.

 oh sweet jesus. rough ridin' coach K.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2011, 11:02:03 PM
i'm pretty sure that anyone that duke recruits is a duke fan, fwiw.  dumbasses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on May 09, 2011, 11:49:08 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on May 09, 2011, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: sys on May 09, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
turgeon will build a monster at maryland.  a beautiful, fierce, dominating monster.


i wonder if malone is mad at hill, or just at kstate?  if turgeon chose to invite him along could he suddenly pull two years of dcas like the rutgers guy did when he left georgetown?

Is there a chance of Turgeon doing this, or are you just playing the "what if?" game?

No chance. Didn't do much at a&m. That program ain't been crap since billy clyde
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on May 10, 2011, 10:01:00 AM
Turd needs an interim, perceived better job before he ever bids on the KU one so this is it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 10, 2011, 11:25:36 AM
would Turd going to Maryland have any effect on his Houston recruiting?  Maybe Figs can actually do some work now instead of getting us guys that Frank will run off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote
lukewinn Luke Winn
To get Buzz, A&M would have to pay $2+MM buyout, plus beat his 7yr, $14MM Marquette deal. Is that really going to happen?

Last guy in the carousel usually gets the shittiest seat.  Looks like A&M may be looking for a seat without gum or vomit on it pretty soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on May 10, 2011, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 10, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
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lukewinn Luke Winn
To get Buzz, A&M would have to pay $2+MM buyout, plus beat his 7yr, $14MM Marquette deal. Is that really going to happen?

Last guy in the carousel usually gets the shittiest seat.  Looks like A&M may be looking for a seat without gum or vomit on it pretty soon.

I'd be shocked if A&M hired a major conference HC.  Its just too close to the bottom tier of coaching jobs amongst those schools for anyone to find it a step up, barring ridiculous money.  Pretty much have to go mid-major or asst coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 10, 2011, 10:25:17 PM
i think they're prepared to pay, if they have to (reasonable money, not buzz williams money).  but the mid-major coach hypothesis seems pretty likely.  some pretty dece options in the region.  utep, n. texas, tulsa, wichita st, the other sutton kid.

n. texas guy looks pretty good, has recruited dfw well.  has ties to louisiana.  add those to a&m's home region of houston - pretty nice base to build a team.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 10, 2011, 10:35:42 PM
other thought - spinelli could be their martin.  but i dunno if their incoming recruits are good enough to force that hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 10, 2011, 10:36:45 PM
We need the Mean Grean'r poster to comment on this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on May 11, 2011, 01:38:52 AM
WOULD TAKE

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/bohls/entries/2011/05/10/texas_am_no_duk.html?cxntfid=blogs_bohl_games (http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/bohls/entries/2011/05/10/texas_am_no_duk.html?cxntfid=blogs_bohl_games)

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Texas A&M no Duke of the West
By Kirk Bohls | Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 05:02 PM

It’s a shame Mark Turgeon left Texas A&M for Maryland, the third-best coaching gig in the Atlantic Coast Conference. He’s an outstanding coach, a terrific person and should do well with the Terrapins.

The Aggies, however, are left with having to replace a great coach for the third time in six years. Billy Gillispie left after two solid seasons to take over Kentucky before getting fired and resurfacing in Texas Tech. Turgeon’s Aggies reached the NCAA Tournament all four of his seasons and were widely known as great defensive teams that milked all of their potential.

That said, A&M isn’t Duke. Not even close. It hasn’t had the rich history of a basketball powerhouse like Kansas or even a perennial Top 25 program like Texas.
For instance, while the Aggies have never won the Big 12 title, the Longhorns have won or shared three of them. Three Aggies are playing in the NBA, but none is remotely considered a star, not even the much-heralded point guard Acie Law. Texas has 10 in the pros, including two-time NBA scoring champion Kevin Durant, with three more on the way from Rick Barnes’ last team. Only two Aggies have even been selected to the All-Big 12 team — Donald Sloan and Law. Ten Longhorns — including Chris Mihm twice — have been chosen to the all-conference first team.

While the Aggies have never been higher than a third seed in the NCAA Tournament during the Big 12 era and gone 6-6 in Tournament play with one Sweet 16 appearance, the Longhorns have won 34 games (to the Aggies’ nine overall) and been to a Final Four although they have dropped off of late.
All this suggests A&M is a place for basketball overachieving and not exactly a destination for NBA talent, so it might not be able to lure a coach with high stature like the types Maryland was courting in Sean Miller, Jay Wright and Mike Brey.

That said, Bill Byrne has made one great hire after another and scored big with his last two basketball hires. Buzz Williams of Marquette would be a steal if Byrne can lure him away, but I’m thinking he’d come away with someone like Nebraska’s Doc Sadler.

He fits the mold as a hard-scrabble, defensive-minded, well-respected and popular coach with Texas roots as a former Texas-El Paso head coach and an assistant at Lamar, Houston and Texas Tech. Plus, Sadler is much more affordable, making just $900,000 a year after a recent raise. I also think he would greatly prefer the Big 12 over the Big Ten with its great coaches and great scouting.



Come back to us, old friend :love:

 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 11, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
Mike Dikorsy (I know I crap the bed on that spelling) was saying on 810 this morning that Doc Saddler would be a good hire at A&M. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 11, 2011, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on May 11, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
Mike Dikorsy (I know I crap the bed on that spelling) was saying on 810 this morning that Doc Saddler would be a good hire at A&M. 

 :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on May 11, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on May 11, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
Mike DeCoursey was saying on 810 this morning that Doc Sadler would be a good hire at A&M. 

fyp
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 11, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Tad Boyle rumblings on twitter in regards to the A&M gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 11, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on May 11, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Tad Boyle rumblings on twitter in regards to the A&M gig.

great.  mark down 2 losses every year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on May 11, 2011, 11:24:37 AM
I'd take a hard look at Marshall for A&M.  He'd probably do a pretty decent job just getting a bunch of kids from eastern Texas.

But that's just me.  I'd be thrilled to have Doc back.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on May 11, 2011, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: catzacker on May 11, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on May 11, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Tad Boyle rumblings on twitter in regards to the A&M gig.

great.  mark down 2 losses every year.

Would be hilarious because of how much he's spewed the whole, "CU is my dream job," hyperbole.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
Wow Frank would have be be  :ohno: in his K-State Cowboy Boots if his lord and master Tad Boyle goes to A&M.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
Can we work on a return of Doc poster?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on May 11, 2011, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
Wow Frank would have be be  :ohno: in his K-State Cowboy Boots if his lord and master Tad Boyle goes to A&M.



 :jerk: unless Higgins and Burke magically appear on A&M's roster
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cas4ksu on May 13, 2011, 09:33:28 AM
Rumors of A&M reaching out to Jeff Van Gundy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 13, 2011, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: cas4ksu on May 13, 2011, 09:33:28 AM
Rumors of A&M reaching out to Jeff Van Gundy.

Not rumor, he confirmed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2011, 02:50:21 PM
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Friday, May 13, 2011
Maryland, Dalonte Hill will talk or have already

Wouldn't this be a full-circle at its finest...


After we just a few days ago revisited Gary Williams' comments about Kansas State associate head coach Dalonte Hill, the man who replaced him, Mark Turgeon, is now trying to get Hill to join the Terrapins bench.


Confirmed through sources, Hill and Maryland today either talked already, or will, to at least discuss the possibility of him leaving Manhattan for home - a story that has become more than just well-known to KSU fans over the past few seasons.

Kansas State is aware of the situation.

Known for having brought Michael Beasley to K-State, having Hill return home with his recruiting ties would be a major coup for Turgeon, who has watched virtually the entire incoming class ask for its release since his hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 13, 2011, 03:01:09 PM
turgeon isn't stupid, which means malone still likes hill, just not martin.  would be a win-win for him to move on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 13, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Would we promote from within and then steal Pastrana from Labette Co.?  I say YES!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PoetWarrior on May 13, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
We would not replace Dalonte with someone of Dalonte's potential.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
Would Pearls Show Cause keep him from being an assistant?

No, I don't believe that this is possible at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 13, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
Jeff Van Gundy, come on down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 13, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: sys on May 13, 2011, 03:01:09 PM
turgeon isn't stupid, which means malone still likes hill, just not martin.  would be a win-win for him to move on.

this deduction/fact is beyond disheartening.  and a reason why everyone should start hating frank until he quits treating college recruiting like nfl free agency.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2011, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: catzacker on May 13, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: sys on May 13, 2011, 03:01:09 PM
turgeon isn't stupid, which means malone still likes hill, just not martin.  would be a win-win for him to move on.

this deduction/fact is beyond disheartening. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 14, 2011, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on May 13, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
We would not replace Dalonte with someone of Dalonte's potential.
:flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bozocat on May 14, 2011, 10:58:26 AM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on May 13, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Would we promote from within and then steal Pastrana from Labette Co.?  I say YES!!

http://boxofmess.com/2011/04/24/erik-pastrana-dreaming-far/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 14, 2011, 03:04:35 PM
Quote from: bozocat on May 14, 2011, 10:58:26 AM
http://boxofmess.com/2011/04/24/erik-pastrana-dreaming-far/

great article by dca's favorite author.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 14, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
a&m beat sports "journalist" is tweeting that it will be billy kennedy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 15, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: sys on May 14, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
a&m beat sports "journalist" is tweeting that it will be billy kennedy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6553151

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcollege-basketball-coaches.findthebest.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F642%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2FMurray%2520State%2520-%2520Billy%2520Kennedy.jpg&hash=b2d2f900938f94d15678ef6f607708d40913ce78)

Looks more like an AD than a BBall coach.  Also, kind of looks like Doc's richer, more successful, younger brother.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 15, 2011, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:09:39 PM


His Uncle is Roland Houston one of the assistants on that former staff of Hobbs.  Wouldn't you think his uncle would possibly leverage his commitment into a new assistant gig somewhere?

http://zagsblog.com/ (http://zagsblog.com/)

Quote
Copes, who was released from his letter of intent with George Washington on Tuesday, decided it was best to move on. The program fired head coach Karl Hobbs, who along with Copes’ uncle, Roland Houston, recruited the star senior to George Washington. Houston was recently hired by new George Mason head coach Paul Hewitt as an assistant. This led to Copes taking an official visit this weekend and his ultimate decision.

Looks like Roland made it work for himself.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 17, 2011, 12:43:34 PM
No worries bros, we almost had this guy a couple years back(I guess we're on his resume  :dunno:), he's been paying his dues with some of the most elite talent in the country in some incredibly intense situations and now he's ready to step in and do the job for the KSU Cats.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg1d2c_basketball-coach-learns-to-teach-new-age-group_news
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 20, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Quote
Gary Parrish
Memphis assistant G Cyprien is leaving to become the associate head coach at Texas A&M, source told CBSSports.com.

Seems weird. Is he a good recruiter?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 21, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on May 20, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Quote
Gary Parrish
Memphis assistant G Cyprien is leaving to become the associate head coach at Texas A&M, source told CBSSports.com.

Seems weird. Is he a good recruiter?

yes, bigfucking name.  goddamn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2011, 12:57:08 AM
Quote from: sys on May 21, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on May 20, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Quote
Gary Parrish
Memphis assistant G Cyprien is leaving to become the associate head coach at Texas A&M, source told CBSSports.com.

Seems weird. Is he a good recruiter?

yes, bigfucking name.  goddamn.

damnit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 21, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
it turns out it was shingler & judge that finally took williams down.   :emawkid:


http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Wally-Judge-recruitment-was-the-last-straw-for-Gary-2349995/1

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 21, 2011, 08:10:46 AM
didnt want to believe the TC, FP, etc, but there it is.  damn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on May 21, 2011, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: sys on May 21, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
it turns out it was shingler & judge that finally took williams down.   :emawkid:


http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Wally-Judge-recruitment-was-the-last-straw-for-Gary-2349995/1



 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 21, 2011, 01:27:06 PM
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Judge met with Gary and had a diva attitude and Gary was like 'ya know what, can't deal with kids like this anymore' and retired

Incredible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: sys on May 21, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
it turns out it was shingler & judge that finally took williams down.   :emawkid:


http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Wally-Judge-recruitment-was-the-last-straw-for-Gary-2349995/1



omg, that is fantastic. eff ya wally.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 23, 2011, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: steve dave on May 21, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: sys on May 21, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
it turns out it was shingler & judge that finally took williams down.   :emawkid:


http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Wally-Judge-recruitment-was-the-last-straw-for-Gary-2349995/1



omg, that is fantastic. eff ya wally.

Explains his sissy tweets and Frank's refusal to let him come back.  Glad he didn't taint McOrebs too bad. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 23, 2011, 09:47:14 AM
So maybe, just hear me out on this, Wally ruined Nick, and not the other way around.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2011, 11:12:53 AM
Quote from:  bp re. assistant coaching search
Frank does not need "help" in South Florida.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on May 23, 2011, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: steve dave on May 23, 2011, 11:12:53 AM
Quote from:  bp re. assistant coaching search
Frank does not need "help" in South Florida.

...just the rest of the united states of america.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 23, 2011, 12:37:34 PM
there was a feelgood extended martin mention in a haslem article in the sunday times.  it really helped me rekindle the flames, so to speak.  catzacker, if you have a chance, i think it would do you a lot of good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on May 23, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6580565

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalintegritynow.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2Fuser93_pic165_1217457841-300x240.png&hash=fa1068261e7880dab448145a08c95d94853ef6db)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on May 23, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6580565

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good lord, he just takes his big 10 alma mater to the tourny for the first time in ten years and bails for the navy job. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on May 23, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Navy's coach would rather be an assistant @ Nova and Penn State's coach would rather be the HC @ Navy.  Damn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 24, 2011, 01:57:20 PM
this is hilarious.  glad to see he's making money at it now.

Quote
The timing of the departure will make it even harder for Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and Eddie Fogler, who was hired to help with the search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 24, 2011, 02:08:53 PM
Quote from: sys on May 24, 2011, 01:57:20 PM
this is hilarious.  glad to see he's making money at it now.

Quote
The timing of the departure will make it even harder for Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and Eddie Fogler, who was hired to help with the search.

holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on May 24, 2011, 11:13:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 23, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on May 23, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6580565

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good lord, he just takes his big 10 alma mater to the tourny for the first time in ten years and bails for the navy job. 

He doesn't have a contract, he knew he was going to get fired next season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Evans :blindfold:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Evans :blindfold:

yeah, maybe we can make those connections pay off now that he can take recruiting trips though :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:53:37 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Evans :blindfold:

yeah, maybe we can make those connections pay off now that he can take recruiting trips though :dunno:

hope so. I'd like to know who Cassidy's source in the article was though. I'm guessing Dalonte.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on May 27, 2011, 03:55:07 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Evans :blindfold:

yeah, so......we're effed, right?

instead of using the $400k to go after some elite recruiter, we will presumably pocket most of that to keep Currie's balance sheet nice and pretty (until we start losing again), and promote our G.A. for, what, ~$100k?

eff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:53:37 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Evans :blindfold:

yeah, maybe we can make those connections pay off now that he can take recruiting trips though :dunno:

hope so. I'd like to know who Cassidy's source in the article was though. I'm guessing Dalonte.

we will hopefully never know.  I'm just elated that our journos are starting to roll in the anon (best) sources.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
Also, congrats on cassidy for breaking that story and having the original piece on it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on May 27, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Is he black? That is most important to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: AppleJack on May 27, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Is he black? That is most important to me.

yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.

great point here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on May 27, 2011, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of.  

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.
eff this is starting get expensive. Need to look into lease option.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.

great point here

If we added said flag, what would have to occur in a game to incite vigorous waving?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Trim on May 27, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.

great point here

If we added said flag, what would have to occur in a game to incite vigorous waving?



maybe, like, handing frank a water
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2011, 05:31:30 PM
maybe pre-game shoot around?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2011, 09:20:52 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Trim on May 27, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: sys on May 27, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: steve dave on May 27, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
yeah.  he's from the bahamas which I was not aware of. 

sounds like a fantastic hire, also adds another flag to the 17 collection.

great point here

If we added said flag, what would have to occur in a game to incite vigorous waving?



maybe, like, handing frank a water

 :kstatriot: (but with Bahamas for flag and being waved by q@ fans instead of the wind)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 27, 2011, 09:23:06 PM
Friday before a three day weekend.  Should tell you what you need to know there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on May 27, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on May 27, 2011, 09:23:06 PM
Friday before a three day weekend.  Should tell you what you need to know there.

media theory applies to press conferences & releases, not to cassidy scoops.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on July 16, 2011, 05:53:35 PM
'grats to a&m.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/aggies/2011/07/insider-bryan%E2%80%99s-reese-will-fill-out-kennedy%E2%80%99s-staff/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on July 21, 2011, 01:44:47 PM
apparently reese decided against accepting a&m's offer.  huge slap in the face for the aggies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2011, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: sys on July 21, 2011, 01:44:47 PM
apparently reese decided against accepting a&m's offer.  huge slap in the face for the aggies.

J-Mychal just commited to A&M :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2011, 05:08:45 PM
interesting turn of events
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 05, 2011, 06:24:55 PM
have k nunn in on an unofficial too.  a&m staff is slapping the rest of college bball in the face.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 06, 2011, 01:30:18 AM
tough luck for whoever thought they had been hired to be a&m's coach instead of reese.


http://blog.mysanantonio.com/aggies/2011/08/top-hoops-prospect-reese-commits-to-aggies/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on August 06, 2011, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: sys on August 06, 2011, 01:30:18 AM
tough luck for whoever thought they had been hired to be a&m's coach instead of reese.


http://blog.mysanantonio.com/aggies/2011/08/top-hoops-prospect-reese-commits-to-aggies/

i'd love their strategy if i weren't so damned jealous about how things are unfolding
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 06, 2011, 01:39:59 AM
texags has posters saying that john reese is denying the report.  but many seem to think that someone named mitch cole will serve as coach for a year then be bumped down when reese arrives after coaching his kid's senior year.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 07, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
nunn commits to a&m.  holy crap.

 :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 07, 2011, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: sys on August 07, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
nunn commits to a&m.  holy crap.

 :eek:

JFC, Billy K and crew, the beast that nobody saw coming.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on August 07, 2011, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on August 07, 2011, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: sys on August 07, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
nunn commits to a&m.  holy crap.

 :eek:

JFC, Billy K and crew, the beast that nobody saw coming.

i don't even understand how this all came about.  i'm waiting for the "ellis to take an official to college station, per mother" tweet at this point
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 07, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
The longstanding theory is holding true, if Cyprien is involved, never count him out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 07, 2011, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on August 07, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
The longstanding theory is holding true, if Cyprien is involved, never count him out.

faith in cyp.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on August 07, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
so like they can't pick up smart now, right? Right?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on August 07, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on August 07, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
so like they can't pick up smart now, right? Right?!

scholarshipwise they can.  they are starting to get a lot of combos though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2013, 07:20:51 PM
Doug Davalos fired from Texas State!  42 let's see some candidate chatter. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2013, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 18, 2013, 07:20:51 PM
Doug Davalos fired from Texas State!  42 let's see some candidate chatter.

Serious question or bbs'n?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2013, 08:08:38 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 18, 2013, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 18, 2013, 07:20:51 PM
Doug Davalos fired from Texas State!  42 let's see some candidate chatter.

Serious question or bbs'n?

Serious
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2013, 08:13:17 PM
Everyone wants Danny Kaspar from SFA. He's been consistently good with them and SFA didn't exactly have a great run of success before him. The problem is our program isn't that much better than theirs in terms of intangibles (the stadium and facilities are slightly nicer, conference is better, salary is a wild card) and on the court we've sucked ass since 1996 so we'd have to make it rain to lure him.

Another name being thrown around is Russell Springman, Texas asst. coach, aka the guy the recruited Durant, Augustin, and Damion James. Doesn't have a great HC resume (light on experience) but we can't be picky.

A couple of names thrown against the wall by our rivals site are Billy Gillispie since he used to work at Texas State and.....drumroll....DOC!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 18, 2013, 08:13:17 PM
Everyone wants Danny Kaspar from SFA. He's been consistently good with them and SFA didn't exactly have a great run of success before him. The problem is our program isn't that much better than theirs (the stadium and facilities are slightly nicer, conference is better, salary is a wild card) so we'd have to make it rain to lure him.

Another name being thrown around is Russell Springman, Texas asst. coach, aka the guy the recruited Durant, Augustin, and Damion James. Doesn't have a great HC resume but we can't be picky.

A couple of names thrown against the wall by our rivals site are Billy Gillispie since he used to work at Texas State and.....drumroll....DOC!

Doc.  If he'll have you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2013, 08:15:01 PM
Yeah I mean would take. They're throwing around his name at Tech too, which would be goddamn hilarious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
crap, I'd take Springman at K-State
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2013, 08:16:44 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 18, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
crap, I'd take Springman at K-State

Yeah, I'd be pretty excited if we got him. The scuttlebutt up in Austin is that he's been waiting for this opening for a while, but who knows how true that is or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2013, 08:23:15 PM
Pretty decent prospects, I'd probably take the stud recruiter over known XO genius doc if it were me. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
Knowing our athletic director though we'll hire whoever is coaching at Our Lady of the Lake :jerk: (San Antonio equivalent of MCC)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
I'm sorry, 42, but I want Tech to get Doc. This conference deserves it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 18, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
I'm sorry, 42, but I want Tech to get Doc. This conference deserves it.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
I'm sorry, 42, but I want Tech to get Doc. This conference deserves it.

eff those hick West Texans if they let Walker go for Doc Sadler.

Also nothing more annoying than anyone other than SD or _fan talking about Doc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 19, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
I'm sorry, 42, but I want Tech to get Doc. This conference deserves it.

I'd be ok with it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 19, 2013, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
I'm sorry, 42, but I want Tech to get Doc. This conference deserves it.

eff those hick West Texans if they let Walker go for Doc Sadler.

Also nothing more annoying than anyone other than SD or _fan talking about Doc.

I would think it was extra funny after their football hire and subsequent donor email about turning Tech into the swag capital of the southwest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 19, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
So...is Weber leaving or are we just dreaming/pondering?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2013, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: BackPayne on March 19, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
So...is Weber leaving or are we just dreaming/pondering?

why would you dream he would leave?  we just won the big 12/4 seed. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
Some guy from Louisville took the UMKC job, apparently not knowing that the state does everything in its power to doom UMKC athletics.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 19, 2013, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 19, 2013, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: BackPayne on March 19, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
So...is Weber leaving or are we just dreaming/pondering?

why would you dream he would leave?  we just won the big 12/4 seed.

Ride the Webber train until it crashes into the NIT IMO. Then start campaigning to sack him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 19, 2013, 10:37:59 PM
I live close to Columbia (COMO is awful) what rumblings I hear from MU diehards (Tiger Tards all over)
1. Haith not long term
2. Coach to replace him has been targeted
3. Targeted coach is Dana Altman, whose family misses the midwest (Oregon to Columbia a shitty trade) 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 19, 2013, 10:37:59 PM
I live close to Columbia (COMO is awful) what rumblings I hear from MU diehards (Tiger Tards all over)
1. Haith not long term
2. Coach to replace him has been targeted
3. Targeted coach is Dana Altman, whose family misses the midwest (Oregon to Columbia a shitty trade)

Someone is rough ridin' with you
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 19, 2013, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on March 19, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 19, 2013, 10:37:59 PM
I live close to Columbia (COMO is awful) what rumblings I hear from MU diehards (Tiger Tards all over)
1. Haith not long term
2. Coach to replace him has been targeted
3. Targeted coach is Dana Altman, whose family misses the midwest (Oregon to Columbia a shitty trade)

Someone is rough ridin' with you

CNS Casey has this right.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 19, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I would think Oregon to MU is not a good move, but Altman is not exactly a west coast guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 20, 2013, 12:10:00 AM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 19, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I would think Oregon to MU is not a good move, but Altman is not exactly a west coast guy

No move to MU is a good move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on March 20, 2013, 08:50:03 AM
Dana Altman needs to realize that CoMo is not the Midwest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2013, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: MadCat on March 20, 2013, 08:50:03 AM
Dana Altman needs to realize that CoMo is not the Midwest.

Yeah, it's the Midsouth.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

I was beating that drum hard last spring.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2013, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

I was beating that drum hard last spring.  :frown:

We might as well have just pursued coach K. We would have had a roughly equal chance of landing him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU

The only thing good about Memphis is that's where Cal came from?  :dunno:  I guess fan attendance?

Crappy conference, only have 1 final four (1973).  I guess I'm saying if he's a good coach he'll leave Memphis for somewhere else.  Probably not KSU, but he will leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 20, 2013, 09:14:34 AM
Pastner needs to win a game in the tourney for Memphis to be something more than a mid-major again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU

The only thing good about Memphis is that's where Cal came from?  :dunno:  I guess fan attendance?

Crappy conference, only have 1 final four (1973).  I guess I'm saying if he's a good coach he'll leave Memphis for somewhere else.  Probably not KSU, but he will leave.

next time you search wikipedia for memphis basketball facts try to remember that making it to a final means you made it to a final four.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
So?  My logic was that final fours show a propensity for success whereas a lone appearance in a final could be a fluke.  KSU exceeds Memphis' accomplishments in every category, that was the main point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2013, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
So?  My logic was that final fours show a propensity for success whereas a lone appearance in a final could be a fluke.  KSU exceeds Memphis' accomplishments in every category, that was the main point.

He's telling you that Memphis has been to 3 Final Fours, dumbass, including one in 2008 which I'm not sure how you can't remember.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2013, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
So?  My logic was that final fours show a propensity for success whereas a lone appearance in a final could be a fluke.  KSU exceeds Memphis' accomplishments in every category, that was the main point.

Pro tip: even without the factual deficiencies (which were lawl) your logic is crap.  Coaches don't just look at final four banners/paint and make a move.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 21, 2013, 09:31:42 AM
Texas State is setting up an interview with SFA's coach. Apparently he's pretty interested.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 25, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Go home to the Big 10 oscar, go home.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948116/tubby-smith-out-at-minnesota
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 25, 2013, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 25, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Go home to the Big 10 oscar, go home.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948116/tubby-smith-out-at-minnesota

no one would be excited about oscar weber, even after tying for the championship.  i'd imagine minnesota thinks they are better than oscar weber.  MINNESOTA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 25, 2013, 12:07:45 PM
Tubby is a worse version of oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2013, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 25, 2013, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 25, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Go home to the Big 10 oscar, go home.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948116/tubby-smith-out-at-minnesota

no one would be excited about oscar weber, even after tying for the championship.  i'd imagine minnesota thinks they are better than oscar weber.  MINNESOTA.

plus they just fired their coach who was previously fired. (basically).

Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 25, 2013, 12:07:45 PM
Tubby is a worse version of oscar

I'd say he's a better version, but we'd kind of be splitting hairs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on March 25, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fteam-pastner.png&hash=2e16ba03eccafc21b27c43fd2c27dec6b28a2254)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 25, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
Curly Cankles isn't leaving Memphis, bro-dozers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kougar24 on March 25, 2013, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: mocat on March 25, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
Curly Cankles isn't leaving Memphis, bro-dozers

we know
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 25, 2013, 12:21:00 PM
Quote from: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 25, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Go home to the Big 10 oscar, go home.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948116/tubby-smith-out-at-minnesota

"There will be those who say that Minnesota should be content going to an NCAA tournament every other year, but Teague and Ellis clearly want to take this program to the next level"


 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: RickRampus on March 25, 2013, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on March 25, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fteam-pastner.png&hash=2e16ba03eccafc21b27c43fd2c27dec6b28a2254)
:drool: / :swoon:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Willesgirl on March 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
I have negative bb coaching IQ, but pro-tip: The town of Memphis is a complete and total tear down, as in, they should bulldoze it and start all over. Any human with poor enough judgment to remain in Memphis when they have an opportunity to leave, isn't good enough for K-State, IMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on March 25, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Willesgirl on March 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
I have negative bb coaching IQ, but pro-tip: The town of Memphis is a complete and total tear down, as in, they should bulldoze it and start all over. Any human with poor enough judgment to remain in Memphis when they have an opportunity to leave, isn't good enough for K-State, IMO.
I have low MemphisIQ: would that include Graceland?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 25, 2013, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: Willesgirl on March 25, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
I have negative bb coaching IQ, but pro-tip: The town of Memphis is a complete and total tear down, as in, they should bulldoze it and start all over. Any human with poor enough judgment to remain in Memphis when they have an opportunity to leave, isn't good enough for K-State, IMO.

:opcat:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Willesgirl on March 25, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
No Bread, you're the :opcat:

Have you been to Memphis? It's repulsiveness has nothing to do with race. I mean Graceland, which yes, burn it down, isn't exactly a multicultural mecca.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 25, 2013, 03:03:54 PM
Have you been to Gus's Fried Chicken? Amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 25, 2013, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: Willesgirl on March 25, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
I mean Graceland, which yes, burn it down, isn't exactly a multicultural mecca.

You've got me there. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 25, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
Tubby out at frozen wasteland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 25, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
enjoying the memphis discussion, but remember: Memphis is a hotbed for basketball talent, so it would take some serious coin to pry pastner away from such an easy situation. I don't doubt k-state and others will try though. It'd be good for my team if someone was to pilfer pastner away from Memphis State. We haven't got the top player from memphis since Nolan left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 25, 2013, 09:09:09 PM
Minnesota is going to hire a loser.  At least this is what has to happen for me to maintain my sanity.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 25, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
enjoying the memphis discussion, but remember: Memphis is a hotbed for basketball talent, so it would take some serious coin to pry pastner away from such an easy situation. I don't doubt k-state and others will try thoU hhugh. It'd be good for my team if someone was to pilfer pastner away from Memphis State. We haven't got the top player from memphis since Nolan left.
POD,  what are your thoughts on Mike Anderson so far?  I miss  having  him in the conference,  he was a fun adversary,  it was enjoyable to root against him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 26, 2013, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 25, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 25, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
enjoying the memphis discussion, but remember: Memphis is a hotbed for basketball talent, so it would take some serious coin to pry pastner away from such an easy situation. I don't doubt k-state and others will try thoU hhugh. It'd be good for my team if someone was to pilfer pastner away from Memphis State. We haven't got the top player from memphis since Nolan left.
POD,  what are your thoughts on Mike Anderson so far?  I miss  having  him in the conference,  he was a fun adversary,  it was enjoyable to root against him.

Well i love mike, as most arkansans' do but there is one thing. I really don't like his offense. i love the defense, and once he gets all his players in place i will judge his ability then. his system struggles without any post players, and we didn't have much besides 6'7 powell this season besides mickelson, who is the softest big man ever. luckily we brought in a top 15 powerforward and a top 50 center. what we do next year will help me decide whether i approve of the hire or not. really though i won't be happy until they build a statue of Nolan. People play down the adversity he faced over here during his tenure. The AD at the time used to call him the N word to his face and publicly humiliate him. Embarassing for our state. atleast the bad person and all his cronies are gone now.
POD
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 20, 2013, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
So?  My logic was that final fours show a propensity for success whereas a lone appearance in a final could be a fluke.  KSU exceeds Memphis' accomplishments in every category, that was the main point.

He's telling you that Memphis has been to 3 Final Fours, dumbass, including one in 2008 which I'm not sure how you can't remember.

Weren't most of those revoked or whatevs? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 26, 2013, 11:35:14 AM
So Memphis is a bad place?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 26, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: Super PurpleCat on March 26, 2013, 11:35:14 AM
So Memphis is a bad place?

There is quite a bit of crime(think Detroit/Oakland) and low-income areas.  Drive down Poplar Ave (https://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=bail+bonds+memphis&fb=1&gl=us&hq=bail+bonds&hnear=0x87d57e1eea439745:0xd193f315601ab6fe,Memphis,+TN&sa=X&ei=PNdRUZnlJ5KBqQGDhoHACQ&ved=0CNoBELYD) and you'll find out that bail bonds is the leading industry.  Plenty of good eats(amazing dry rub BBQ and fried chicken) and Beale Street can be a lot of fun if you like clubs or  bars with rockabilly bands like The Dempseys.  Of course any city would be nice to live in if you're a Millionaire Basketball Coach. Jeff Buckley drowned to death there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 26, 2013, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: Super PurpleCat on March 26, 2013, 11:35:14 AM
So Memphis is a bad place?
the better barbecue is actually across the river in West Memphis
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 20, 2013, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
So?  My logic was that final fours show a propensity for success whereas a lone appearance in a final could be a fluke.  KSU exceeds Memphis' accomplishments in every category, that was the main point.

He's telling you that Memphis has been to 3 Final Fours, dumbass, including one in 2008 which I'm not sure how you can't remember.

Weren't most of those revoked or whatevs? 

You aren't hinting that this is what you meant are you? That would be hilarious if so. The NCAA no longer recognizes the 2008 Final Four for some reason. We all still, well most of us apparently, saw them in the final four.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
That is what I'm hinting at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
I'd sure be interested in hearing your explanation as to how you feel that's relevant to your larger point or  the conversation that was being had.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2013, 05:05:25 PM
The larger point was that mayhaps Memphis isn't so obviously a better job than say, KSU.  It may in fact be, just that it's not night and day difference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
I shouldn't have even asked, I knew better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
So I missed that Tech fired the entire basketball staff except for Walker. He is still a candidate, along with Doc, Barry Hinson, Steve McClain, and Scott Sutton. And rivals #22 Keith Frazier is supposed to decide between Tech and SMU on Thursday, Walker is his main recruiter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
We should offer that kid

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:

damn, that's a nice list
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

My Oakland experience is "limited" to having owned several Too Short albums, but I think JT is on point here.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:30:40 PM
Oakland is like a shittier version of Baltimore, its rough ridin' awful.  Comparing it to KC is comical.


Mike Brown to UCLA rumors  :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 26, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
So I missed that Tech fired the entire basketball staff except for Walker. He is still a candidate, along with Doc, Barry Hinson, Steve McClain, and Scott Sutton. And rivals #22 Keith Frazier is supposed to decide between Tech and SMU on Thursday, Walker is his main recruiter.

Ridiculous that Walker has to compete for a job against those retreads, he did a very good job at Tech considering the circumstances. That list is a freaking joke, none of those guys should be candidates at a BCS school. I wish black coaches got as many chances to flame out as those losers. Ridiculous that one of those white coaches is getting that job while Todd Bozeman is still stuck at Morgan State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

Much of it is quite lovely. I'm guessing FSD has never been to Oakland (or Baltimore).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

Much of it is quite lovely. I'm guessing FSD has never been to Oakland (or Baltimore).

We all know he is a racist troll. I haven't seen any posts from him in these two coaching threads surprising or worth responding to.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

Much of it is quite lovely. I'm guessing FSD has never been to Oakland (or Baltimore).

Take this bullshit elsewhere.  Your guess is wrong, been to both.  If all of KC was that area east of Holmes and west of 435 with a downtown that consisted only of the buildings east of grand and the seaport from beverly hills cop, KC would be very similar to Oakland.  You're either delusional or were raised in the Soviet Block if you think Oakland is "lovely" 



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

Much of it is quite lovely. I'm guessing FSD has never been to Oakland (or Baltimore).

We all know he is a racist troll. I haven't seen any posts from him in these two coaching threads surprising or worth responding to.

Chris Walker should keep his job, dipshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
hey, Oakland isn't any worse than KC.

Never been to Oakland but I was always led to believe it was a hellhole. :dunno:

Much of it is quite lovely. I'm guessing FSD has never been to Oakland (or Baltimore).

Take this bullshit elsewhere.  Your guess is wrong, been to both.  If all of KC was that area east of Holmes and west of 435 with a downtown that consisted only of the buildings east of grand and the seaport from beverly hills cop, KC would be very similar to Oakland.  You're either delusional or were raised in the Soviet Block if you think Oakland is "lovely"

Oh, and you'd have to add ridiculous traffic, horrible air quality and even more violent crime to those parts of KC, then it would be similar to Oakland. 


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
the seaport from beverly hills cop

I did enjoy this line, but you just confirmed you've never been there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
I wish black coaches got as many chances to flame out as those losers.

Weird thing to wish for
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
the seaport from beverly hills cop

I did enjoy this line, but you just confirmed you've never been there.

How's that? You talking about Oakland, MI or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
What's going on here?  Oakland is unequivocally one of the worst places in the entire USA.  Arguing against that is like arguing 2 is more than 8.  Yet MICHIGANcat is defending it and goes so far to purport its nice (it is NOT).

Is there some goEMAW joke I don't know about?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
What's going on here?  Oakland is unequivocally one of the worst places in the entire USA.  Arguing against that is like arguing 2 is more than 8.  Yet MICHIGANcat is defending it and goes so far to purport its nice (it is NOT).

Is there some goEMAW joke I don't know about?

Oakland is a very nice place. You've obviously never been there, so I won't discuss it with you any more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 26, 2013, 11:17:10 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
What's going on here?  Oakland is unequivocally one of the worst places in the entire USA.  Arguing against that is like arguing 2 is more than 8.  Yet MICHIGANcat is defending it and goes so far to purport its nice (it is NOT).

Is there some goEMAW joke I don't know about?

there are a lot of goEMAW jokes you don't know about
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
I wish black coaches got as many chances to flame out as those losers.

Weird thing to wish for

Equality, who needs it?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
What's going on here?  Oakland is unequivocally one of the worst places in the entire USA.  Arguing against that is like arguing 2 is more than 8.  Yet MICHIGANcat is defending it and goes so far to purport its nice (it is NOT).

Is there some goEMAW joke I don't know about?

Oakland is a very nice place. You've obviously never been there, so I won't discuss it with you any more.

Clearly you've never been there or can't read a map or are from Beirut or other godforsaken place.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
I wish black coaches got as many chances to flame out as those losers.

Weird thing to wish for

Equality, who needs it?

I forgot you were one of these guys  :clac:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 26, 2013, 11:40:22 PM
I've spent a good amount of time in the last few hours googling and binging (bing.com, not binging in the drinking sense...although I'll admit to a few cocktails along the way) "oscar Weber" and variations thereof. I have yet to find a single hit indicating any school has an interest in interviewing oscar. Maybe my search techniques and skills are deteriorating. If not, it looks like oscar is sparking no interest anywhere.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

that's a great line. I may use it someday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 27, 2013, 01:14:51 AM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
What's going on here?  Oakland is unequivocally one of the worst places in the entire USA.  Arguing against that is like arguing 2 is more than 8.  Yet MICHIGANcat is defending it and goes so far to purport its nice (it is NOT).

Is there some goEMAW joke I don't know about?

Oakland is a very nice place. You've obviously never been there, so I won't discuss it with you any more.

Clearly you've never been there or can't read a map or are from Beirut or other godforsaken place.

worse, western kansas  :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 27, 2013, 01:38:10 AM
Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.

I had no idea that Stl Mo was that dangerous.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 27, 2013, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: jtksu on March 27, 2013, 01:38:10 AM
Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.

I had no idea that Stl Mo was that dangerous.

someone hasn't seen national lampoon's vacation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 06:16:32 AM
Quote from: jtksu on March 27, 2013, 01:38:10 AM
Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.

I had no idea that Stl Mo was that dangerous.

My cousin is a Yale grad who grew a super long beard after college, started a rare record shipping business, and moved into an abandoned brick school house in a terrible neighborhood in St. Louis. We argue a lot over whether STL or DC gentrification is more compelling. But we both agree STL is grosser/more dangerous.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Why isn't UCLA interested in Bill Self?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on March 27, 2013, 07:55:25 AM
Oakland for the most part is nice, in fact Downtown Oakland has some nice parts, especially on the waterfront.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: Limestone on March 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Why isn't UCLA interested in Bill Self?

UCLA prides it's self on the high quality pros it produces.  No dream crushing monsters for them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 27, 2013, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: Limestone on March 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Why isn't UCLA interested in Bill Self?

Probably because they know it would be a waste of time to try and hire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2013, 08:55:54 AM
Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.

Poor people don't visit Oakland, though. You are basically saying that all of us would have a nice experience if we spent a weekend in Oakland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2013, 09:22:45 AM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on March 27, 2013, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: Limestone on March 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Why isn't UCLA interested in Bill Self?

Probably because they know it would be a waste of time to try and hire him.

They can pick anyone they want.  I guess there is something scaring them off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 27, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
late to the party, but kansas city is a really shitty place.  no offense, bros.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2013, 09:28:42 AM
every city over 500k is both pretty cool and really shitty simultaneously.  Now STFU about it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
Quote from: Limestone on March 27, 2013, 09:22:45 AM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on March 27, 2013, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: Limestone on March 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Why isn't UCLA interested in Bill Self?

Probably because they know it would be a waste of time to try and hire him.

They can pick anyone they want.  I guess there is something scaring them off.

hit the nail on the head. no school in their right mind would touch self right now with everything that he has going on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Toxic.  They know as soon as he moves from a mildly followed team to a spotlight program that the dirt will be easy for all to see.

Bill's best option is to stay in the dark where no one really takes the time to care or see what he does.

Sad.  I mean, think what he could be if he would go to one of the spotlight programs and could somehow stay clean.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.

Quote
“Mark said he wants it and the boosters want Mark Gottfried,” the source told SNY.tv. “He’s got the support of the boosters.”

Quote
Gottfried has deep ties to UCLA, having served as an assistant there for eight years, including the 1994-95 national championship season under Jim Harrick.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Nothing quite like the Harrick coaching tree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 27, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
Gottfried couldn't sustain anything at Alabama and was fired/resigned, correct?   This is where UCLA is at?  This is why UP's are stupid.  If you're a tradition rich proram and you can't hire elite talent, it's because the guy that's doing the hiring has made it a horrible environment and should be fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 27, 2013, 08:55:54 AM
Poor people don't visit Oakland, though. You are basically saying that all of us would have a nice experience if we spent a weekend in Oakland.

you would have a lovely time. :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.

Quote
“Mark said he wants it and the boosters want Mark Gottfried,” the source told SNY.tv. “He’s got the support of the boosters.”

Quote
Gottfried has deep ties to UCLA, having served as an assistant there for eight years, including the 1994-95 national championship season under Jim Harrick.

:dunno:

None of that contradicts what I posted. So are we going to ignore his head coaching record or are we going to focus on his time as an assistant 18 years ago? They may select him, and that's fine, but he seems to be a dime a dozen as far as college basketball coaches go. How is he any different than oscar Weber? Pretty sure we would have been angry, not as though, if Gottfried replaced Martin. It's UCLfreakingA they either need to go get someone with accomplishments or a rising star assistant who has shown the ability to get lots of players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 10:38:14 AM
Pastner would build a monster at UCLA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 27, 2013, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 10:38:14 AM
Pastner would build a monster at UCLA.

Pastner needs to get out of Memphis this year.  I’m not sure what job would open up that he’d want next year – maybe if Barnes has another bad year, UT fires him and the ripple affect opens a job up for Pastner.  But if Pastner leaves next year I would imagine oscar Pearl would (or I guess should) be #1 on Memphis’ list (as Pearl’s probation is up in Aug ’14).  And if Pearl goes to Memphis, there would be zero chance of him ever coming to KSU – not that there’s much anyway but at that point, that hope would just bite down on the cyanide pill.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2013, 11:12:57 AM
If Self leaves next year and KU hires Pearl, do we give up on basketball forever or what?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 27, 2013, 11:29:03 AM
 :bait:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 27, 2013, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 27, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Nothing quite like the Harrick coaching tree.

Yep, the boosters support of Gottfried is in no small part due to the fact that they know he'll pull the same crap as Harrick.  Smart move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 27, 2013, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 27, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Nothing quite like the Harrick coaching tree.

Yep, the boosters support of Gottfried is in no small part due to the fact that they know he'll pull the same crap as Harrick.  Smart move.

Hell yes he will.  He's already been doing it at NC State.  He's landed three McD's AAs in his first two classes along with several other top-100 studs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
Pastner would build a monster at Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.

Quote
“Mark said he wants it and the boosters want Mark Gottfried,” the source told SNY.tv. “He’s got the support of the boosters.”

Quote
Gottfried has deep ties to UCLA, having served as an assistant there for eight years, including the 1994-95 national championship season under Jim Harrick.

:dunno:

None of that contradicts what I posted. So are we going to ignore his head coaching record or are we going to focus on his time as an assistant 18 years ago? They may select him, and that's fine, but he seems to be a dime a dozen as far as college basketball coaches go. How is he any different than oscar Weber? Pretty sure we would have been angry, not as though, if Gottfried replaced Martin. It's UCLfreakingA they either need to go get someone with accomplishments or a rising star assistant who has shown the ability to get lots of players.

He has apprently learned how to recruit at an elite level.  In his first two classes at NC State he's landed three McD's AAs and all six of his NC State recruits thus far have been RSCI top-100 players (2012: #17, #27 and #43 and 2013: #9, #40 and #72).  I'd say that sets him just a little apart from oscar seeing as how oscar didn't land a single RSCI top-100 player in the same time frame let alone a McD's AA.  I imagine if UCLA is interested, that's what they're seeing.  A basketball team full of studs every year.  Generally that has a positive impact on fan interest and support. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
Oh, and we should hire Bozeman to be our next coach. We'd be fine.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2013, 06:25:28 PM
So something spooked UCLA off of Self.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:

damn, that's a nice list

Right? Absolutely nobody small timey on there. It's completely the opposite of what I'm used to. Word is we're willing to offer about 200-225k for the next coach which is not quite double what we paid our last garbage coach. I'm really excited.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2013, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 27, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:

damn, that's a nice list

Right? Absolutely nobody small timey on there. It's completely the opposite of what I'm used to. Word is we're willing to offer about 200-225k for the next coach which is not quite double what we paid our last garbage coach. I'm really excited.

You might have a new team worth watching soon, lucky bastard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SwiftCat on March 27, 2013, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 26, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
I forgot you were one of these guys  :clac:

Umm...What the eff?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 27, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Wait, Texas State is a real school?  I thought it was just a place where Kathy Ireland kicked field goals in the movies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 27, 2013, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: seven on March 27, 2013, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: jtksu on March 27, 2013, 01:38:10 AM
Quote from: FuzzyWuzzy on March 27, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: sys on March 26, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
oakland isn't what people think oakland is.  richmond is maybe what people think oakland is.

i haven't lived in oakland, but it appears crime & poverty are still problems:  http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/oakland_stockton_make_forbes_most_v.php
i'm sure much of the city is lovely, but i'm also sure that at least a handful of neighborhoods have serious problems.  the same thing with Memphis.  Sure, you can stay in The Peabody and watch the ducks take the elevator down from the penthouse for their daily swim in the fountain, but you can also live a half-mile away where 80%+ are below poverty.
i think you could have a nice experience in pretty much any city as long as you are :kstategrad: and not a poor.  some cities have areas of poors and high crime. oakland is one of those cities.  doesn't mean the whole place sucks.

I had no idea that Stl Mo was that dangerous.

someone hasn't seen national lampoon's vacation.

Their experience in the hood happened before they're crossed the river so I assumed it was in Illinois. :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 27, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 26, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
So I missed that Tech fired the entire basketball staff except for Walker. He is still a candidate, along with Doc, Barry Hinson, Steve McClain, and Scott Sutton. And rivals #22 Keith Frazier is supposed to decide between Tech and SMU on Thursday, Walker is his main recruiter.

mr. walker just got himself hired.

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/2013/03/report-five-star-kimball-g-keith-frazier-to-commit-to-texas-tech-over-smu-delay-his-announcement.html/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 27, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
ESPN reporting Shaka texted them tonight and said he's staying ay VCU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 27, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
ESPN reporting Shaka texted them tonight and said he's staying ay VCU.

Extended through 2023

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2013, 09:57:39 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 27, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Wait, Texas State is a real school?  I thought it was just a place where Kathy Ireland kicked field goals in the movies.

DO YOU WALK THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD TO WORK HUR HUR
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 12:11:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.

Quote
“Mark said he wants it and the boosters want Mark Gottfried,” the source told SNY.tv. “He’s got the support of the boosters.”

Quote
Gottfried has deep ties to UCLA, having served as an assistant there for eight years, including the 1994-95 national championship season under Jim Harrick.

:dunno:

None of that contradicts what I posted. So are we going to ignore his head coaching record or are we going to focus on his time as an assistant 18 years ago? They may select him, and that's fine, but he seems to be a dime a dozen as far as college basketball coaches go. How is he any different than oscar Weber? Pretty sure we would have been angry, not as though, if Gottfried replaced Martin. It's UCLfreakingA they either need to go get someone with accomplishments or a rising star assistant who has shown the ability to get lots of players.

He has apprently learned how to recruit at an elite level.  In his first two classes at NC State he's landed three McD's AAs and all six of his NC State recruits thus far have been RSCI top-100 players (2012: #17, #27 and #43 and 2013: #9, #40 and #72).  I'd say that sets him just a little apart from oscar seeing as how oscar didn't land a single RSCI top-100 player in the same time frame let alone a McD's AA.  I imagine if UCLA is interested, that's what they're seeing.  A basketball team full of studs every year.  Generally that has a positive impact on fan interest and support.

His recruiting results are great, no doubt. It just seems odd to me that UCLA would be interested in a coach that has been high on promise but low on delivery. Considering history and location it very well may be the best job in America.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 12:11:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 27, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
Zagsblog saying it's likely Gottfried to UCLA now.  NC State has a stud 2013 class.  Feeding frenzy if he leaves.     

That seems like a poor fit. Zagoria has a pretty poor record of being right about anything that happens outside of the 212.

Quote
“Mark said he wants it and the boosters want Mark Gottfried,” the source told SNY.tv. “He’s got the support of the boosters.”

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Gottfried has deep ties to UCLA, having served as an assistant there for eight years, including the 1994-95 national championship season under Jim Harrick.

:dunno:

None of that contradicts what I posted. So are we going to ignore his head coaching record or are we going to focus on his time as an assistant 18 years ago? They may select him, and that's fine, but he seems to be a dime a dozen as far as college basketball coaches go. How is he any different than oscar Weber? Pretty sure we would have been angry, not as though, if Gottfried replaced Martin. It's UCLfreakingA they either need to go get someone with accomplishments or a rising star assistant who has shown the ability to get lots of players.

He has apprently learned how to recruit at an elite level.  In his first two classes at NC State he's landed three McD's AAs and all six of his NC State recruits thus far have been RSCI top-100 players (2012: #17, #27 and #43 and 2013: #9, #40 and #72).  I'd say that sets him just a little apart from oscar seeing as how oscar didn't land a single RSCI top-100 player in the same time frame let alone a McD's AA.  I imagine if UCLA is interested, that's what they're seeing.  A basketball team full of studs every year.  Generally that has a positive impact on fan interest and support.

His recruiting results are great, no doubt. It just seems odd to me that UCLA would be interested in a coach that has been high on promise but low on delivery. Considering history and location it very well may be the best job in America.

Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on March 28, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
I think Shaka turning down the UCLA job is such a dumb decision.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 28, 2013, 01:34:00 AM
Didn't see "Chris Collins to Northwestern" posted anywhere. Anyways, Chris Collins is going to Northwestern.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America. 

I feel like you are asking or hinting at something other than what you asked because there isn't much debate on the top five programs, the debate is in the order, and frankly who cares about the order.

1. UCLA- all of the history and tradition of Kentucky without the loony fans and the fact that it isn't in Kentucky
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Kansas



5. Duke, Syracuse, Indiana, Arizona, Florida

I'm guessing this wouldn't look much different for most. I didn't put Duke alone in the top 5 simply because they can't get any player.

Quote from: PowercatPat on March 28, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
I think Shaka turning down the UCLA job is such a dumb decision.

If he truly turned down an offer I agree. He won't get a better one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 02:19:15 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America. 

I feel like you are asking or hinting at something other than what you asked because there isn't much debate on the top five programs, the debate is in the order, and frankly who cares about the order.

1. UCLA- all of the history and tradition of Kentucky without the loony fans and the fact that it isn't in Kentucky
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Kansas



5. Duke, Syracuse, Indiana, Arizona, Florida

I'm guessing this wouldn't look much different for most. I didn't put Duke alone in the top 5 simply because they can't get any player.

Quote from: PowercatPat on March 28, 2013, 12:56:39 AM

if you are going to argue syracuse, arizona, and florida, you might as well include arkansas and michigan state.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 02:49:51 AM
Yeah, I forgot Michigan State on that list of the others. It took me forever to post that because I knew I forgot one and it was driving me crazy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 03:11:19 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 02:49:51 AM
Yeah, I forgot Michigan State on that list of the others. It took me forever to post that because I knew I forgot one and it was driving me crazy.
Eh, man it happens. Don't mind me, im just here to give everyone crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2013, 07:11:29 AM
i don't think ucla is as good a job as people think.  they handicap themselves by not being sure if they really want to compete in the big budget era of college athletics (facilities, salaries, etc).  also, they'll fire your ass if you aren't wooden v2 and west coast teams don't get on natl tv as much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2013, 07:11:29 AM
i don't think ucla is as good a job as people think.  they handicap themselves by not being sure if they really want to compete in the big budget era of college athletics (facilities, salaries, etc).  also, they'll fire your ass if you aren't wooden v2 and west coast teams don't get on natl tv as much.

plus there's so many more recruits relatively close to you in a place like north Carolina or Syracuse. I bet Shaka is waiting for a big east coast job to open up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 27, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:

damn, that's a nice list

Right? Absolutely nobody small timey on there. It's completely the opposite of what I'm used to. Word is we're willing to offer about 200-225k for the next coach which is not quite double what we paid our last garbage coach. I'm really excited.

If Tang went to Texas State....that a good thing or bad thing?  Would it mean UT, KU gets more of those kids?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 28, 2013, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
Quote from: 42 on March 27, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 26, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
Texas State is interviewing Springmann from UT, Kaspar from SFA, Jerome Tang from Baylor and Brad Autry from Marquette :surprised:

damn, that's a nice list

Right? Absolutely nobody small timey on there. It's completely the opposite of what I'm used to. Word is we're willing to offer about 200-225k for the next coach which is not quite double what we paid our last garbage coach. I'm really excited.

If Tang went to Texas State....that a good thing or bad thing?  Would it mean UT, KU gets more of those kids?

I'm not real informed on Baylor's recruiting, so is Tang the main reason Baylor is getting the majority of the recruits? Sorry for the ignorance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2013, 07:11:29 AM
i don't think ucla is as good a job as people think.  they handicap themselves by not being sure if they really want to compete in the big budget era of college athletics (facilities, salaries, etc).  also, they'll fire your ass if you aren't wooden v2 and west coast teams don't get on natl tv as much.

They just upgraded Pauley and history actually indicates they are very patient with coaches. They've only had 3 coaches since 1988, the problem with UCLA coaches is they tend to find trouble for the program outside the scope of wins and losses.

You're right about players being everywhere, but there is only one Westwood. I don't have to tell you how amazing So Cal can be for a young guy.

The greatest indication of how good of a job UCLA is since John Wooden retired UCLA has had 9 head coaches, the worst losing percentage of these 9 coaches is Walt Hazzard at 62%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America. 

I feel like you are asking or hinting at something other than what you asked because there isn't much debate on the top five programs, the debate is in the order, and frankly who cares about the order.

1. UCLA- all of the history and tradition of Kentucky without the loony fans and the fact that it isn't in Kentucky
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Kansas



5. Duke, Syracuse, Indiana, Arizona, Florida

I'm guessing this wouldn't look much different for most. I didn't put Duke alone in the top 5 simply because they can't get any player.

No just wondered.  It just made me think a little bit.  I agree with the top tier programs for the most part, but I started questioning the actual value, to a high-end coach of being at UCLA. 

The things I questioned:
1. prominence - sure, UCLA is a high-clout job in cbb, but is it still that big of a deal in LA?  I count Dodgers, Angels, USC football, Lakers, and now Clippers as bigger tickets than UCLA bball.  They have to compete directly with 1/2 of USC football season, and all of the LAkers and Clippers.

2. The support and funding for UCLA bball as compared to other top-tier programs.  I don't think it compares and other "football first" schools also heavily fund bball and there is little pressure. 

I would say that there are a lot of recruits in the CA area though.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America. 

I feel like you are asking or hinting at something other than what you asked because there isn't much debate on the top five programs, the debate is in the order, and frankly who cares about the order.

1. UCLA- all of the history and tradition of Kentucky without the loony fans and the fact that it isn't in Kentucky
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Kansas



5. Duke, Syracuse, Indiana, Arizona, Florida

I'm guessing this wouldn't look much different for most. I didn't put Duke alone in the top 5 simply because they can't get any player.

No just wondered.  It just made me think a little bit.  I agree with the top tier programs for the most part, but I started questioning the actual value, to a high-end coach of being at UCLA. 

The things I questioned:
1. prominence - sure, UCLA is a high-clout job in cbb, but is it still that big of a deal in LA?  I count Dodgers, Angels, USC football, Lakers, and now Clippers as bigger tickets than UCLA bball.  They have to compete directly with 1/2 of USC football season, and all of the LAkers and Clippers.

2. The support and funding for UCLA bball as compared to other top-tier programs.  I don't think it compares and other "football first" schools also heavily fund bball and there is little pressure. 

I would say that there are a lot of recruits in the CA area though.
I would put UCLA below UNC for the above reasons and add recruiting - when there is a great player in North Carolina the odds are much higher that UNC gets him than UCLA with similar recruits.  UK and KU are the same way but obviously produce fewer can't miss prospects.

Additionally, I imagine the LA lifestyle may not appeal to some guys - most college coaches come from pretty simple backgrounds
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA--->  clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) &  bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
Would someone please slap the idiot who thinks UCLA isn't a premier job. that is all :dance:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA--->  clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) &  bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.
Where does Coach Clams live in LA after he signs his 5 year, $20 million contract?  Westwood? Brentwood? Santa Monica close to the water?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2013, 04:19:49 PM
I am accepting the coaching job at USC.  Am hiring _FAN immediately.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA--->  clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) &  bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.
Where does Coach Clams live in LA after he signs his 5 year, $20 million contract?  Westwood? Brentwood? Santa Monica close to the water?
right across the street from holmby park (easy access to both campus and w hollywood)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

At some point you have to be able to stop failing into jobs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

At some point you have to be able to stop failing into jobs.

I can see that side of it, but one doesn't pass on a disciple of Pitino. Tubby Smith can win at a high level, but like all Pitino disciples he runs a clean ship, so it will take alot longer. If Billy Donovan and Tubby were willing to cheat they would be fielding teams of one and dones just like Calipari. A team will take a pass at Tubby, probably a mid major and he will finish out his career their. If the right team gets ahold of tubby smith look the eff out. Minnesota is ignorant if they think they can do better than he.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 05:56:41 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR
:jerk: :sdeek: : :barf:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 28, 2013, 06:03:57 PM
That kid that just committed to Tech would be so sad, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR

enjoyed this  ;)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 28, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
Also, what is Tech's obsession with hiring washed-up "used to great" coaches?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
If I were Tech, I don't blame them for getting Tubby for 3-4 years to get the program to somewhat competitive and wash the stink off the job.  Then I would fire him and try for a good coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
Is hoiberg talking to Minnesota? The dude thinks so, so it must be a 100% lock.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
Is hoiberg talking to Minnesota? The dude thinks so, so it must be a 100% lock.

oh my, I'd be devastated, and I'm not even an ISU fan. Could you imagine if you were them?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 28, 2013, 06:42:13 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 28, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
Also, what is Tech's obsession with hiring washed-up "used to great" Kentucky coaches?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 28, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
Doc in Ames is a marriage waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
Just spitballing but maybe it's a Tubby as HC, Walker as Dalonte situation.  Keep the 5 star but put a recognizable face on the program?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA--->  clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) &  bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.

Would take!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

excellent point
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

McDermott, can't believe I forgot his name.  Anyway, I think his son will go to the draft.  And I think ISU would be a good fit.  IIRC, he coached at some valley school in iowa.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

McDermott, can't believe I forgot his name.  Anyway, I think his son will go to the draft.  And I think ISU would be a good fit.  IIRC, he coached at some valley school in iowa.

You are right, McDermott may set sail for the pro's, but i really doubt it he does unless he has a legitimate shot at the first round. then again bj young and marshawn powell are leaving for the draft at Arkansas, so it wouldn't surprise me if McDermott leaves creighton. It'd be a good year to go since their aren't very many clear cut stars in the class(other than mclemore, smart, young, porter and noel who will all get drafted because of their potential)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 28, 2013, 07:38:33 PM
pffft :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 28, 2013, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA--->  clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) &  bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.

So I am the Brad Korn of the group.  Super. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 07:45:38 PM
korn is great man, he's a grad assistant, son!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 28, 2013, 07:38:33 PM
pffft :lol:

keep your stale table humor to yourself, french toast
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
ISU is convinced its them or the NBA for the Mayor. They would be crushed. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
then again bj young and marshawn powell are leaving for the draft at Arkansas.

are you serious?  bj young, holy crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
then again bj young and marshawn powell are leaving for the draft at Arkansas.

are you serious?  bj young, holy crap.

sys, are you considering my job offer?  at least think about it, may be the break you've been looking for.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
then again bj young and marshawn powell are leaving for the draft at Arkansas.

are you serious?  bj young, holy crap.

he's john wall with an even worse shot. he'll get drafted. prolly late first early second, but he will get drafted
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
sys, are you considering my job offer?  at least think about it, may be the break you've been looking for.  :thumbs:

no, too many asst head coaches.  it dilutes all meaning and is basically an insult.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
you're the only one in allowed to recruit.  i won't even let the other guys leave westwood except for games.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
he's john wall with an even worse shot. he'll get drafted. prolly late first early second, but he will get drafted

you know, i was thinking the other day about how being fast is super important among grade school american males, but then isn't important at all for 99.9999999% of adult males (worldwide).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
you're the only one in allowed to recruit.  i won't even let the other guys leave westwood except for games.

ok, then.  but only if michigancat accepts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
Quote from: sys on March 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
he's john wall with an even worse shot. he'll get drafted. prolly late first early second, but he will get drafted

you know, i was thinking the other day about how being fast is super important among grade school american males, but then isn't important at all for 99.9999999% of adult males (worldwide).

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lxnnw3by881rn6kcpo1_500.jpg&hash=bd6d00af7ab845f59bc454ae36c399908e643651)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Texas State update for all 2 people with a minor interest in our coaching search:

They just interviewed Oregon assistant Tony Stubblefield and Maryland assistant Scott Spinelli along with Kaspar from SFA. Indiana associate head coach Scott McClain has been added to the interview list :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
rusty is our offensive coordinator - sake's alive cant imagine he'd turn that down
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
rusty is our offensive coordinator - sake's alive cant imagine he'd turn that down

the music tastes of emaw athletes just got super refined :dance:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
arizona just pulled within 1. gah i hope they send OSU packing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2013, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
ISU is convinced its them or the NBA for the Mayor. They would be crushed. :popcorn:

nvm.

Quote
@IASTATEAD: Excited to share that Coach Hoiberg has agreed to a 10 yr, $20 million contract to stay a Cyclone!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
breaking news. Indiana getting manhandled
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 28, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Texas State update for all 2 people with a minor interest in our coaching search:

They just interviewed Oregon assistant Tony Stubblefield and Maryland assistant Scott Spinelli along with Kaspar from SFA. Indiana associate head coach Scott McClain has been added to the interview list :sdeek:
man, who is the TSU AD?  He is running a hell of a coaching search
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2013, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 28, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Texas State update for all 2 people with a minor interest in our coaching search:

They just interviewed Oregon assistant Tony Stubblefield and Maryland assistant Scott Spinelli along with Kaspar from SFA. Indiana associate head coach Scott McClain has been added to the interview list :sdeek:
man, who is the TSU AD?  He is running a hell of a coaching search

The same guy who hired (and fired) a high school coach for our football team and a mbb coach from Division 3 Sul Ross State (who wasn't even all that good in D3).  I think someone kidnapped him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
breaking news. Indiana getting manhandled
yep, Boehiem  loves exploiting these  Midwestern  teams  that  don't  see much zone  from teams with elite  athletes.   Also,  take this to the Other NCAA  tourny games  thread.  tia
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 28, 2013, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 28, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Texas State update for all 2 people with a minor interest in our coaching search:

They just interviewed Oregon assistant Tony Stubblefield and Maryland assistant Scott Spinelli along with Kaspar from SFA. Indiana associate head coach Scott McClain has been added to the interview list :sdeek:
man, who is the TSU AD?  He is running a hell of a coaching search

The same guy who hired (and fired) a high school coach for our football team and a mbb coach from Division 3 Sul Ross State (who wasn't even all that good in D3).  I think someone kidnapped him.
I  guess  the  question now is which  search firm is he using
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
Parker.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 28, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2013, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
ISU is convinced its them or the NBA for the Mayor. They would be crushed. :popcorn:

nvm.

Quote
@IASTATEAD: Excited to share that Coach Hoiberg has agreed to a 10 yr, $20 million contract to stay a Cyclone!

He'd be stupid to ever leave Ames. He's clearly acclimated himself and is thus immune to the mold levels and that job is his until he dies. Maintain mediocrity and keep cashing checks for life.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 28, 2013, 10:50:41 PM

Hoiberg staying in Ames. Guess he couldn't resist whatever makes people stay in Ames. Money didn't hurt, I'm sure. Everybody has their price.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9110451/fred-hoiberg-agrees-new-deal-stay-iowa-state-cyclones
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 28, 2013, 10:50:41 PM

Hoiberg staying in Ames. Guess he couldn't resist whatever makes people stay in Ames. Money didn't hurt, I'm sure. Everybody has their price.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9110451/fred-hoiberg-agrees-new-deal-stay-iowa-state-cyclones

are you rough ridin' kidding me
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 28, 2013, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 28, 2013, 10:50:41 PM

Hoiberg staying in Ames. Guess he couldn't resist whatever makes people stay in Ames. Money didn't hurt, I'm sure. Everybody has their price.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9110451/fred-hoiberg-agrees-new-deal-stay-iowa-state-cyclones

Dude, 2 mil can buy a man a lot of sandbags.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in  this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR

My thoughts on this are quite clear, it should be Walker's job. That being said Tubby is about 200x more accomplished than that previous list of losers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2013, 11:37:01 PM
1. McDermott is declaring for the draft, he participated in Creighton's senior day and was the last player to be subbed for when they blew out WSU to conclude the regular season.
2. LHC Bill Snyder should take lessons from Hoiberg with regards to giving the hometown discount. At $2 million he will be no higher than the 8th highest paid coach in the conference. If Tech hires Tubby Smith it will certainly be for at least 2. Trent Johnson is at 1.5
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
Not news, but every time I see the title of this thread I get excited and think maybe oscar got hired away or retired to run his chicken nuggets stand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 29, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
Not news, but every time I see the title of this thread I get excited and think maybe oscar got hired away or retired to run his chicken nuggets stand.

Me too bro, me too.   :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: jtksu on March 28, 2013, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 28, 2013, 10:50:41 PM

Hoiberg staying in Ames. Guess he couldn't resist whatever makes people stay in Ames. Money didn't hurt, I'm sure. Everybody has their price.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9110451/fred-hoiberg-agrees-new-deal-stay-iowa-state-cyclones

Dude, 2 mil can buy a man a lot of sandbags.

Good point. He'll need them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on March 29, 2013, 02:28:43 AM
Quote from: jtksu on March 29, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
Not news, but every time I see the title of this thread I get excited and think maybe oscar got hired away or retired to run his chicken nuggets stand.

Me too bro, me too.   :cry:

It'll happen some day. And it will be a day of mixed emotions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wabash909 on March 30, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
@DanWolken: Andy Katz reporting Steve Alford to UCLA. Wow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: "storm"nut on March 30, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
Would Weber go to New Mexico?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 30, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach.  He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 30, 2013, 10:42:48 AM
Quote from: wabash909 on March 30, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
@DanWolken: Andy Katz reporting Steve Alford to UCLA. Wow.

Wow is right.  Maybe oscar really did have a shot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2013, 10:53:32 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20383.msg505744#msg505744
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2013, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2013, 10:53:32 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20383.msg505744#msg505744

wow, what an awful day.

and college basketball hiring is starting to look like the NFL. good grief, give someone new a chance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2013, 11:00:12 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2013, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2013, 10:53:32 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20383.msg505744#msg505744

wow, what an awful day.

and college basketball hiring is starting to look like the NFL. good grief, give someone new a chance.

Fired a guy that went to 3 straight Final 4s, hired a guy with 1 Sweet 16 14 years ago at Missouri State. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
They know his winning percentage in Big Ten games at Iowa was .477 right? Its on his wikipedia page, anyone can look it up. That's where I'd start if I was UCLA.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on March 30, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
They know his winning percentage in Big Ten games at Iowa was .477 right? Its on his wikipedia page, anyone can look it up. That's where I'd start if I was UCLA.



One time he tied with the current Big 12 COY for 2nd in the league!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 30, 2013, 11:18:53 AM
Jeesh, Steve Alford is horrible..............WTF is UCLA thinking?  Glad he just signed some 10 year extension or something w/ NM, right?



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
Of course those on the tuck boards love them some Alford. For some, it will always be a white man's world.

"Alford was my #1 choice as well, but I am certainly happy with Weber at this point."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2013, 12:22:17 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 30, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
Quote
Lavin: five S16s in six years = FIRED! Howland: three straight F4s = FIRED! Alford: no S16s since '99 = HIRED!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
 :sdeek: :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2013, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
:sdeek: :lol:

Texas State is conducting a better search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 30, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
yeah i don't even
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 30, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
Didn't Lavin get caught cheating like crazy or something leading to his firing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 30, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
Didn't Lavin get caught cheating like crazy or something leading to his firing?

I think you're thinking of the guy before him, Jim Harrick.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 30, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
Funny how people haven't learned from oscar's performance this year that proven, veteran coaches are the best way to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 30, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
Funny how people haven't learned from oscar's performance this year that proven, veteran coaches are the best way to go.
I think it just proves that ADs for the most part are unimaginative and cowardly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: POD Lasalle Edition on March 30, 2013, 02:11:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9114861/ucla-bruins-hire-new-mexico-lobos-coach-steve-alford
Quote
UCLA hired New Mexico coach Steve Alford on Saturday to replace Ben Howland, ending a process that had rapidly changed direction several times over the past few days.

"It's been a difficult morning to tell a team that I dearly love and a team and built last six years," Alford said in a Saturday afternoon news conference in Albuquerque.
dude can't even form a coherent sentence.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: skycat on March 30, 2013, 06:10:36 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2013, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: 42 on March 30, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
:sdeek: :lol:

Texas State is conducting a better search.

Even UMKC got a better coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 30, 2013, 07:09:31 PM
Why in the world did UCLA hire somebody before talking with Gregg Marshall?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2013, 08:43:05 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.

It's a pretty good job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.

After today, he's in LHC Bill Snyder territory at WSU. I'm guessing he, Smart and Stevens pretty come up for every opening. They'll probably only get picked off by the real blue bloods or Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on March 30, 2013, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.

After today, he's in LHC Bill Snyder territory at WSU. I'm guessing he, Smart and Stevens pretty come up for every opening. They'll probably only get picked off by the real blue bloods or Texas.

If they didn't leave for UCLA I don't think they'll leave for Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
 in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2013, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.

After today, he's in LHC LHC Bill Snyder territory at WSU. I'm guessing he, Smart and Stevens pretty come up for every opening. They'll probably only get picked off by the real blue bloods or Texas.

Today was gold for Wichita State.  This is the kind of thing that could get them bumped into the Big East if they expand to higher numbers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
If I were a UCLA fan I would be disappointed with Alford.  However, if I were a UCLA fan I'd be furious with the administration for their squandering of a great program.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2013, 10:37:58 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 30, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
If I were a UCLA fan I would be disappointed with Alford.  However, if I were a UCLA fan I'd be furious with the administration for their squandering of a great program.

As a K-State fan, I would have been disappointed with Alford.  I don't think he's any better than oscar, personally, and if he is, the difference is marginal at best.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 30, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2013, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
I kinda think Greg Marshall is crazy enough to stay at Wichita State until he flames out and gets fired.

After today, he's in LHC LHC Bill Snyder territory at WSU. I'm guessing he, Smart and Stevens pretty come up for every opening. They'll probably only get picked off by the real blue bloods or Texas.

Today was gold for Wichita State.  This is the kind of thing that could get them bumped into the Big East if they expand to higher numbers.

I don't know if it will get them into the new or old Big East, but it might get them considered as a non-football MWC member which I think would be a pretty good fit for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 31, 2013, 12:31:37 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2013, 10:37:58 PM
As a K-State fan, I would have been disappointed with Alford.  I don't think he's any better than oscar, personally, and if he is, the difference is marginal at best.

he's significantly worse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on March 31, 2013, 12:42:16 AM
Yeah. I may have been a little meh if we hired Alford instead of Weber, but not disappointed. Now, if I'm UCLA, I'd probably be a little angry.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on March 31, 2013, 02:53:23 AM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: jtksu on March 30, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
Didn't Lavin get caught cheating like crazy or something leading to his firing?

I think you're thinking of the guy before him, Jim Harrick.

Yep, totally just combined the two into one dude. I didn't realize how long Lavin was doing tv. I thought he coached at URI and Georgia, then went into TV.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 31, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
Big surprise here folks, Jason King thinks Alford was the perfect fit for small time UCLA

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on March 31, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
Big surprise here folks, Jason King thinks Alford was the perfect fit for small time UCLA

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball)

Quote
Stevens and Smart would seem out of place amid the bright lights of Los Angeles. They're not Hollywood enough.

ha ha, what a white midwesterner thing to say.

he does have a good point about recruiting California, but the rest of that column was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on March 31, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
Big surprise here folks, Jason King thinks Alford was the perfect fit for small time UCLA

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball)

Quote
Stevens and Smart would seem out of place amid the bright lights of Los Angeles. They're not Hollywood enough.

ha ha, what a white midwesterner thing to say.

he does have a good point about recruiting California, but the rest of that column was pretty bad.

When I think Steve Alford, I think "Hollywood."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2013, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 30, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
Funny how people haven't learned from oscar's performance this year that proven, veteran coaches are the best way to go.
I think it just proves that ADs for the most part are unimaginative and cowardly.
COWARDLY
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: CartierFor3 on March 31, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
Big surprise here folks, Jason King thinks Alford was the perfect fit for small time UCLA

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9115258/steve-alford-well-right-fit-ucla-bruins-new-head-coach-ncaa-men-college-basketball)

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Stevens and Smart would seem out of place amid the bright lights of Los Angeles. They're not Hollywood enough.

ha ha, what a white midwesterner thing to say.

he does have a good point about recruiting California, but the rest of that column was pretty bad.

When I think Steve Alford, I think "Hollywood."

Funny, I think "swag".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 31, 2013, 11:05:21 AM
I think nutritional supplement conferences in Omaha.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMADUB on March 31, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 30, 2013, 07:09:31 PM
Why in the world did UCLA hire somebody before talking with Gregg Marshall?

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“@GrantMeech12: Was told by someone close to Marshall, that he spoke to UCLA twice this week but told them to call back after tourney run was over"

Eagle said Wichita state had not been contacted by UCLA. Sorry if luked. I am so pumped I figured out how to quote a tweet on here and look like a professional BBSer
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on March 31, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
They set out to find the best and came back with Steve Alford
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 31, 2013, 10:45:24 PM
The UCLA thing is still mind boggling to me. All I can think of is:

Thad Matta
Buzz Williams
Jay Wright
Jamie Dixon
John Beilein
Sean Miller

They just spent $138MM dollars to rebuild their arena, but can't come up with an extra $10MM over the next 5 years to get one of these six before they settled on Steve Alford?  You're UCLA, step it the eff up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 31, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: MadCat on March 31, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
They set out to find the best and came back with Steve Alford

Mission definitely not accomplished.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 01, 2013, 12:10:48 AM
Now that Marshall has reached (at least) the FF, dude has to parlay that into a big time job, right? I mean, his stock is never going to be higher. I guess a huge raise and some absurd like 15 yr  contract would be acceptable too, I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 01, 2013, 12:10:48 AM
Now that Marshall has reached (at least) the FF, dude has to parlay that into a big time job, right? I mean, his stock is never going to be higher. I guess a huge raise and some absurd like 15 yr  contract would be acceptable too, I guess.

yeah, he's the new Jim Larranaga
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 01, 2013, 12:28:18 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 01, 2013, 12:10:48 AM
Now that Marshall has reached (at least) the FF, dude has to parlay that into a big time job, right? I mean, his stock is never going to be higher. I guess a huge raise and some absurd like 15 yr  contract would be acceptable too, I guess.

yeah, he's the new Jim Larranaga

He's even better than the old Larranaga because he has Miami Larranaga in the back of everyone's mind.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.


Would Wichita be willing/able to pay as much as a Big 10 athletic department, for example?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 01, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
marshall isn't a jumper and won't leave for any currently open jobs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 01, 2013, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: felix rex on April 01, 2013, 12:28:18 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: jtksu on April 01, 2013, 12:10:48 AM
Now that Marshall has reached (at least) the FF, dude has to parlay that into a big time job, right? I mean, his stock is never going to be higher. I guess a huge raise and some absurd like 15 yr  contract would be acceptable too, I guess.

yeah, he's the new Jim Larranaga

He's even better than the old Larranaga because he has Miami Larranaga in the back of everyone's mind.

And is younger, which I think is what kept Larranaga as Miami's B or C plan (Frank was plan F)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.


Would Wichita be willing/able to pay as much as a Big 10 athletic department, for example?

They can and will. He isn't leaving this season and I wouldn't doubt if he got a contract similar to the one Hoiberg just got. I don't think he will stay at WSU if he continues to win. Marshall has a world famous giant ego, even for coaches. Stevens and Smart seem very comfortable where they are. Marshall would have taken the UCLA job if Dan Guerreo was patient. Its also entirely possible that the big boosters at UCLA, who are agents BTW, didn't feel Marshall fit what they wanted.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: GoodForAnother on April 01, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
marshall isn't a jumper and won't leave for any currently open jobs

He won't leave for any of the current jobs because they aren't any good. Not sure what you mean by saying he isn't a jumper. He has interviewed for other jobs since he's been at WSU and routinely makes Royesque shows about deciding to stay at WSU and Winthrop before that, of course he stays after contract renegotiations.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd

How many is "a lot?"

I will name a few:

Better facilities
Bigger budget for recruiting (assumption)
Better private planes (assumption)
Higher pay
Lower performance goals that must be met to retain employment



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.


Would Wichita be willing/able to pay as much as a Big 10 athletic department, for example?

They can and will. He isn't leaving this season and I wouldn't doubt if he got a contract similar to the one Hoiberg just got. I don't think he will stay at WSU if he continues to win. Marshall has a world famous giant ego, even for coaches. Stevens and Smart seem very comfortable where they are. Marshall would have taken the UCLA job if Dan Guerreo was patient. Its also entirely possible that the big boosters at UCLA, who are agents BTW, didn't feel Marshall fit what they wanted.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but how is Alford what they want wanted? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.


Would Wichita be willing/able to pay as much as a Big 10 athletic department, for example?

They can and will. He isn't leaving this season and I wouldn't doubt if he got a contract similar to the one Hoiberg just got. I don't think he will stay at WSU if he continues to win. Marshall has a world famous giant ego, even for coaches. Stevens and Smart seem very comfortable where they are. Marshall would have taken the UCLA job if Dan Guerreo was patient. Its also entirely possible that the big boosters at UCLA, who are agents BTW, didn't feel Marshall fit what they wanted.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but how is Alford what they want wanted?

You're asking the wrong person. They hired Alford while WSU is still playing, clearly someone there valued Alford over Marshall. Alford fits a similar mold as Jim Mora Jr.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:40:30 AM


You're asking the wrong person. They hired Alford while WSU is still playing, clearly someone there valued Alford over Marshall. Alford fits a similar mold as Jim Mora Jr.

That's a really good point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:40:30 AM


You're asking the wrong person. They hired Alford while WSU is still playing, clearly someone there valued Alford over Marshall. Alford fits a similar mold as Jim Mora Jr.

That's a really good point.

Are they? Frat guys with decent hair, kind of jerks, decent builds. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:40:30 AM


You're asking the wrong person. They hired Alford while WSU is still playing, clearly someone there valued Alford over Marshall. Alford fits a similar mold as Jim Mora Jr.

That's a really good point.

Are they? Frat guys with decent hair, kind of jerks, decent builds.

Not really successful in past, but had good rep's for some reason, and didn't get it done a decent schools.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2013, 10:51:47 AM
We'll see how Marshall ends up, but its clear not all the really good non-AQ coaches are looking to jump at their first chance. Few really started it and Smart and Stephens have followed. Altman and Larrananga are a couple that jumped, but stayed at their programs several more seasons after they peaked. If anything, they left when their non-AQ programs were on a downward trend, but still could get a decent AQ job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd

How many is "a lot?"

I will name a few:

Better facilities
Bigger budget for recruiting (assumption)
Better private planes (assumption)
Higher pay
Lower performance goals that must be met to retain employment

The only one of those things that are inarguably true is the last point and that doesn't make it a better job. Coaches would commit homicide to coach at Kentucky where they will fire you after one season. Nebraska has Tim Miles. Also the recruiting budget thing isn't as big of a deal at UCLA or UT for that matter, they have quick and cheap access to many of the best players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 01, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
So, of the current open "big" jobs, why would he go to Minnesota, New Mexico, or USC? Minnesota is not a BB power, New Mexico tries to be, and USC? USC's last claim to fame was O.J. Mayo, and that didn't work out too well.


Would Wichita be willing/able to pay as much as a Big 10 athletic department, for example?

They can and will. He isn't leaving this season and I wouldn't doubt if he got a contract similar to the one Hoiberg just got. I don't think he will stay at WSU if he continues to win. Marshall has a world famous giant ego, even for coaches. Stevens and Smart seem very comfortable where they are. Marshall would have taken the UCLA job if Dan Guerreo was patient. Its also entirely possible that the big boosters at UCLA, who are agents BTW, didn't feel Marshall fit what they wanted.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but how is Alford what they want wanted?

You're asking the wrong person. They hired Alford while WSU is still playing, clearly someone there valued Alford over Marshall. Alford fits a similar mold as Jim Mora Jr.
How does a coach who had success in the NFL but ultimately washed out compare to a coach who only had sporadic, mediocre success at a middling big 10 school?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 01, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd

How many is "a lot?"

I will name a few:

Better facilities
Bigger budget for recruiting (assumption)
Better private planes (assumption)
Higher pay
Lower performance goals that must be met to retain employment

The only one of those things that are inarguably true is the last point and that doesn't make it a better job. Coaches would commit homicide to coach at Kentucky where they will fire you after one season. Nebraska has Tim Miles. Also the recruiting budget thing isn't as big of a deal at UCLA or UT for that matter, they have quick and cheap access to many of the best players.
I don't think saying UT has more resources than UCLA is arguable, one just needs to look at the budgets, UT's is over half what UCLA's is. 

UCLA's AD maybe a moron (his FB hire looks pretty good) and/or the agent boosters may have run a terrible search but I would bet UT has a much better coaching search and hires a better candidate when the job comes up next.

Even the quality of life in Austin may appeal to some guys over the UCLA job, not everyone wants the headaches of LA - it's not like the 4 or 5 2 to 3 mill UCLA is going to pay is enough to afford the helo that true ballers use to get around
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 01, 2013, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd

Yeah, I don't agree with that at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
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Jon Krawczynski ?@APkrawczynski 6m
Tubby Smith has agreed to terms to become the head coach at Texas Tech, sources tell AP.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 01, 2013, 01:53:13 PM
Quote from: emawblast on April 01, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
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Jon Krawczynski ?@APkrawczynski 6m
Tubby Smith has agreed to terms to become the head coach at Texas Tech, sources tell AP.

Good hire for Tech.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on April 01, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: emawblast on April 01, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
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Jon Krawczynski ?@APkrawczynski 6m
Tubby Smith has agreed to terms to become the head coach at Texas Tech, sources tell AP.

JFC.   The League of Losers. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
can't wait for texas tech to give tubby his makeover
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2013, 02:06:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
can't wait for texas tech to give tubby his makeover

coach #dap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
So TT is racist right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
Lots of old balls coaching in the Big XII these days.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: puniraptor on April 01, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
what if oscar told orris he was leaving so he is transferring to follow oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 01, 2013, 05:01:50 PM
Maybe we can get Keith Frazier for our late signee! :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
So TT is racist right?

I tried baiting him earlier with no luck.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 01, 2013, 07:40:09 PM
what a slap to the face of that poor five-star.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jtksu on April 01, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
Maybe I'm I'll informed/ignorant/naive but if I was a college coach, the UT job (in any sport) would be on my very short list of dream jobs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: puniraptor on April 01, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
what if oscar told orris he was leaving so he is transferring to follow oscar

Interesting thought.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
So TT is racist right?

I tried baiting him earlier with no luck.

If you were that unimaginative I would still be P.I.ing you. We all know Emo is a rough ridin' moron, this isn't breaking new ground here. He read what I wrote and took out of it that I would have thought TT were racists if they hired a white coach. Why would I waste the time on a paste eating mouthbreather who wouldn't understand anyway?



Also if I wasn't previously clear, this hire was stupid and walker should have gotten the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2013, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
So TT is racist right?

I tried baiting him earlier with no luck.

If you were that unimaginative I would still be P.I.ing you. We all know Emo is a rough ridin' moron, this isn't breaking new ground here. He read what I wrote and took out of it that I would have thought TT were racists if they hired a white coach. Why would I waste the time on a paste eating mouthbreather who wouldn't understand anyway?



Also if I wasn't previously clear, this hire was stupid and walker should have gotten the job.

Some ADs like the "safe" hire. Weber was safe for Currie. Tubby is safe for Holcutt. .
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on April 01, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 30, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
in a  lot of ways,  Texas  is a  better job  than UCLA

absurd

How many is "a lot?"

I will name a few:

Better facilities
Bigger budget for recruiting (assumption)
Better private planes (assumption)
Higher pay
Lower performance goals that must be met to retain employment

The only one of those things that are inarguably true is the last point and that doesn't make it a better job. Coaches would commit homicide to coach at Kentucky where they will fire you after one season. Nebraska has Tim Miles. Also the recruiting budget thing isn't as big of a deal at UCLA or UT for that matter, they have quick and cheap access to many of the best players.
I don't think saying UT has more resources than UCLA is arguable, one just needs to look at the budgets, UT's is over half what UCLA's is. 

UCLA's AD maybe a moron (his FB hire looks pretty good) and/or the agent boosters may have run a terrible search but I would bet UT has a much better coaching search and hires a better candidate when the job comes up next.

Even the quality of life in Austin may appeal to some guys over the UCLA job, not everyone wants the headaches of LA - it's not like the 4 or 5 2 to 3 mill UCLA is going to pay is enough to afford the helo that true ballers use to get around

I don't disagree with any of this. I think those of you arguing the UT job is better are arguing what it should be and I again don't disagree with any of the points, but the reality is that college basketball views UCLA as a better job. Using the arguments you guys are making you can say UT is a top 2 job but no one believes that. Deloss doesn't have the confidence in the job that some of you do as evidenced by his latitude given to Barnes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
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BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 01, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
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BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA
that is just mind bottling to me.  I mean USC?  How much of a step up is that?  Of course the area will be great, and I'm sure the dump trucks are going to be backing up to his door step, but.....USC?.......weird......
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: ednksu on April 01, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote
BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA
that is just mind bottling to me.  I mean USC?  How much of a step up is that?  Of course the area will be great, and I'm sure the dump trucks are going to be backing up to his door step, but.....USC?.......weird......
Only two years head coaching experience and 5 years as an assistance at FSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2013, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: ednksu on April 01, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote
BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA
that is just mind bottling to me.  I mean USC?  How much of a step up is that?  Of course the area will be great, and I'm sure the dump trucks are going to be backing up to his door step, but.....USC?.......weird......

I like it. Not a safe hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote
BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA

There is no "might of" here.

Alford was a really bad hire.  Really, really bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 01, 2013, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote
BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA

There is no "might of" here.

Alford was a really bad hire.  Really, really bad.

Has taken Iowa and UNM to 3 seeds in the NCAAs. Granted, he's a prick, and he lacks tournament success, but if you can win at Iowa you can win at UCLA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Also if I wasn't previously clear, this hire was stupid and walker should have gotten the job.

Kirby Hocutt has no guts.

You have nothing to lose.  And you hire Tubby?  Tubby?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 01, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Also if I wasn't previously clear, this hire was stupid and walker should have gotten the job.

Kirby Hocutt has no guts.

You have nothing to lose.  And you hire Tubby?  Tubby?

Yeah most of my Tech friends who are still paying attention are either pissed or have lapsed into complete apathy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 01, 2013, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
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BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA

There is no "might of" here.

Alford was a really bad hire.  Really, really bad.

Has taken Iowa and UNM to 3 seeds in the NCAAs. Granted, he's a prick, and he lacks tournament success, but if you can win at Iowa you can win at UCLA.

He didn't really win at Iowa, though.  He had a losing Big Ten record over eight years.  He only had three seasons with a winning record in the Big Ten.

In 18 years as a D1 coach, he's been to the NCAA tournament 7 times.  He's only gotten out of the first weekend one time (1999).

His resume was worse than oscar's...

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 01, 2013, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Gary Parrish
That's trolling UCLA fans, right? RT @USC_Athletics: Andy Enfield: "I am looking forward to bringing an up-tempo style of play to USC."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 01, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
why's alford a dick?  I don't know anything about him at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 01, 2013, 11:36:34 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 01, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
why's alford a dick?  I don't know anything about him at all.

Grew up watching Iowa hoops when he was there, but from what a remember a sophomore guard was accused of rape, entered a guilty plea and through all that Alford was very publicly advocating his innocence and questioning the credibility of the victim. Even after he had pled guilty.

And then last week he signed a 10 year extension with UNM, and then took the UCLA job the day before his buyout went from 175k to 1m.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 01, 2013, 11:41:02 PM
Remember last year when there were rumors that Alford was our next coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 01, 2013, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
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BREAKING: FGCU coach Andy Enfield is close to a deal to become USC's new head coach: bit.ly/11eHYLl (via @SIPeteThamel)
Might of out done UCLA

There is no "might of" here.

Alford was a really bad hire.  Really, really bad.

Has taken Iowa and UNM to 3 seeds in the NCAAs. Granted, he's a prick, and he lacks tournament success, but if you can win at Iowa you can win at UCLA.

First of all the three coaches before him were Tom Davis, George Raveling, and Lute Olson. He didn't outperform any of them. Secondly, he didn't win at Iowa. A 58% winning clip, is real average.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2013, 12:14:31 AM
UCLA was getting desperate. Had to get a coach in place pretty quickly and settled on a familiar name. Alford won't be there five years from now...or maybe three.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: eastcat on April 02, 2013, 12:37:17 AM
Why is everyone too big of a pussy to hire oscar pearl?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 02, 2013, 01:56:57 AM
Quote from: eastcat on April 02, 2013, 12:37:17 AM
Why is everyone too big of a pussy to hire oscar pearl?
Show Cause
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6892118/tennessee-volunteers-former-coach-oscar-pearl-assistants-punished-ncaa
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2013, 07:08:54 AM
Quote from: Cire on April 01, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
why's alford a dick?  I don't know anything about him at all.

His college coach probably influenced him quite a bit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 02, 2013, 08:00:06 AM
Alford would walk into stores (hardware, clothing, appliance, etc.) and walk out with merchandise without paying because hey's king crap of eff mountain and he's owed these things. One time I guess he just loaded up a like a snowblower into his truck and drove off.  I think these are pretty "open" secrets if you ask Iowa fans.  I am sure stories from UNM will be coming out soon as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
As a youngster, I borrowed this VHS from my older brother and worked it in the driveway:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-EfwQaE3wHnk%2FT2ANXeJjBkI%2FAAAAAAAAAGE%2FLmZ2oYVUpMU%2Fs320%2FAlford%252BAll-American%252BWorkout.jpg&hash=326b053c949e350b516f271d743f50392015a621)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2013, 08:21:31 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
First of all the three coaches before him were Tom Davis, George Raveling, and Lute Olson. He didn't outperform any of them. Secondly, he didn't win at Iowa. A 58% winning clip, is real average.

As a coach, Alford is pretty much Dana Altman part 2. His exit from Iowa was very similar to Altman's exit from K-State; both "resigned" and took jobs at non-AQ schools. Alford's success at New Mexico is very similar to Altman's at Creighton.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: felix rex on April 02, 2013, 08:39:54 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 02, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
As a youngster, I borrowed this VHS from my older brother and worked it in the driveway:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-EfwQaE3wHnk%2FT2ANXeJjBkI%2FAAAAAAAAAGE%2FLmZ2oYVUpMU%2Fs320%2FAlford%252BAll-American%252BWorkout.jpg&hash=326b053c949e350b516f271d743f50392015a621)

between the ages of 10 and 12, I probably read this 5 times:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.imagesbn.com%2Fp%2F9780671724412_p0_v1_s260x420.JPG&hash=f917114b32e4a5bb99da870e8fb954aecf71d3a9)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 02, 2013, 10:10:58 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
So TT is racist right?

I tried baiting him earlier with no luck.

If you were that unimaginative I would still be P.I.ing you. We all know Emo is a rough ridin' moron, this isn't breaking new ground here. He read what I wrote and took out of it that I would have thought TT were racists if they hired a white coach. Why would I waste the time on a paste eating mouthbreather who wouldn't understand anyway?



Also if I wasn't previously clear, this hire was stupid and walker should have gotten the job.

How narcissistic of you.  I made the comment completely independent of what anyone else has said.  I don't care what you think about TT or the hire or anything else really.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2013, 01:19:10 PM
Theus got hired at Cal-State Northridge.

http://sundial.csun.edu/2013/04/former-nba-head-coach-reggie-theus-hired-by-csun/

Can't believe he didn't get a better look. He was outstanding at NMSU. I would have taken him to replace Frank in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 02, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Quote
@coachbruceweber: Congrats to Texas Tech on hiring of Tubby Smith. He is great addition to the Big 12. You can't get a better representative for basketball.

No one had ONE bad thing to say about him!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 02, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
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@coachbruceweber: Congrats to Texas Tech on hiring of Tubby Smith. He is great addition to the Big 12. You can't get a better representative for basketball.

No one had ONE bad thing to say about him!

Nice to know that Brad Korn likes Tubby Smith
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 02, 2013, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 02, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 02, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Quote
@coachbruceweber: Congrats to Texas Tech on hiring of Tubby Smith. He is great addition to the Big 12. You can't get a better representative for basketball.

No one had ONE bad thing to say about him!

Nice to know that Brad Korn likes Tubby Smith

Lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 03, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
I never minded Steve at Iowa. Plus, the amount of butthurt Hawks in the last week has been enjoyable. Really hope ISU can schedule a game vs UCLA soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 03, 2013, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: Haverhill on April 03, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
I never minded Steve at Iowa. Plus, the amount of butthurt Hawks in the last week has been enjoyable. Really hope ISU can schedule a game vs UCLA soon.

You are just jealous the Hawks are playing for a championship. We are jealous of the Bears too, so its okay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 03, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
Richard Pitino to Minnesota.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 03, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Dick Pitino is not a flattering name.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 03, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: pvegs on April 03, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
Richard Pitino to Minnesota.

After one year of finishing 5th in the Sun Belt?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2013, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on April 03, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: pvegs on April 03, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
Richard Pitino to Minnesota.

After one year of finishing 5th in the Sun Belt?

to be fair, he did win more games than Isaiah had the previous two years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 03, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
richard pitino is an excellent hire. he will coach for five years at minny and then take the louisville job.

congrats to richard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 03, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
richard pitino is an excellent hire. he will coach for five years at minny and then take the louisville job.

congrats to richard.

He doesn't seem to fit your "mold".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Texas State is hiring Kaspar from SFA. Bit of a comedown considering some of the names that were out there but it's better than our last coach at least (mediocre D3 coach).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 04, 2013, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: j rake on April 03, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
richard pitino is an excellent hire. he will coach for five years at minny and then take the louisville job.

congrats to richard.
Pitinos coach basketball how it was meant to be coached, loose and fast!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
How is the Italian restaurant scene in Minny?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2013, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Texas State is hiring Kaspar from SFA. Bit of a comedown considering some of the names that were out there but it's better than our last coach at least (mediocre D3 coach).

Won in Norman this year.

Good coach (really good defense), but ssssllllloooooowwwww paced and a big believer in "3PTers are fools gold" philosophy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2013, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Texas State is hiring Kaspar from SFA. Bit of a comedown considering some of the names that were out there but it's better than our last coach at least (mediocre D3 coach).

Won in Norman this year.

Good coach (really good defense), but ssssllllloooooowwwww paced and a big believer in "3PTers are fools gold" philosophy.

Yeah, it's not going to be the most attractive brand of basketball to watch. I got a chance to see a little bit of SFA-NWST in the SLC championship and it was very  :sdeek:

if he helps us win for the first time since 1996 though (shouldn't be that hard to do in the Sun Belt) then I don't care how bad we look.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 04, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
if he helps us win for the first time since 1996 though (shouldn't be that hard to do in the Sun Belt) then I don't care how bad we look.

And we all know who built the program in the mid-90s...  :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 04, 2013, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
if he helps us win for the first time since 1996 though (shouldn't be that hard to do in the Sun Belt) then I don't care how bad we look.

And we all know who built the program in the mid-90s...  :gocho:

fwiw i would've totally been fine with oscar at texas state.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
What the eff is Rick's full name if it's not Richard?  Are they both Richard?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 04, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 02, 2013, 01:19:10 PM
Theus got hired at Cal-State Northridge.

http://sundial.csun.edu/2013/04/former-nba-head-coach-reggie-theus-hired-by-csun/

Can't believe he didn't get a better look. He was outstanding at NMSU. I would have taken him to replace Frank in a heartbeat.

 :lol:  are you rough ridin' serious? 

What the eff is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ManBearPig on April 05, 2013, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
How is the Italian restaurant scene in Minny?

Pretty atrocious... However, most of the gopher fans i talk to seem to be pretty happy with the hire. There's a lot of 2014 talent around the twin cities and most of the alumni believe that Dick has the ability to keep them in state...it'll be interesting. Everyone was just happy to see Tubby and his disgusting son leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 05, 2013, 12:28:05 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
if he helps us win for the first time since 1996 though (shouldn't be that hard to do in the Sun Belt) then I don't care how bad we look.

And we all know who built the program in the mid-90s...  :gocho:

fwiw i would've totally been fine with oscar at texas state.

oscar would have done well at Texas State. Just my opinion. But I think I'm right.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 05, 2013, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
How is the Italian restaurant scene in Minny?

Doesn't beat the Olive Garden.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2013, 11:14:27 AM
Quote from: Haverhill on April 05, 2013, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on April 04, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
How is the Italian restaurant scene in Minny?

Doesn't beat the Olive Garden.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 05, 2013, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: bones129 on April 05, 2013, 12:28:05 AM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 04, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
if he helps us win for the first time since 1996 though (shouldn't be that hard to do in the Sun Belt) then I don't care how bad we look.

And we all know who built the program in the mid-90s...  :gocho:

fwiw i would've totally been fine with oscar at texas state.

oscar would have done well at Texas State. Just my opinion. But I think I'm right.

That was a really subtle _FAN bait post too but he didn't respond :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 05, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: 42 on April 05, 2013, 01:25:41 PM
That was a really subtle _FAN bait post too but he didn't respond :cry:

Did you know?

In 1994 Jimmy Wooldridge took Texas State to the NCAA tournament with a 25-7 record. In 16 seasons since, his teams have finished over .500 just 5 times, his best season was a 17-12 mark in the 2005 campaign at Kansas State, and no Wooldridge coached teams have made it to post season play.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on April 05, 2013, 01:40:39 PM
he could've been a legend :cry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 04:52:33 PM
Sources: Virginia Tech to hire Marquette coach Buzz Williams

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Is Buzz Williams the new Lon Kruger?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Is Buzz Williams the new Frank Martin?

Why yes he is. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2014, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Is Buzz Williams the new Frank Martin?

Why yes he is. 

Almost went that route. Maybe they're competing to be the next Lon Kruger? :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2014, 06:21:26 PM
Holy crap that's a great hire for them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
Will Milwaukee native and proven commodity oscar Weber get a look!?  It hurts to be spurned by a fiery douche bag in favor of a lesser program.  Sometimes your program needs a warm awkward hug.   :eek: :horrorsurprise: :ohno: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2014, 07:43:26 PM
Tom Crean boomerang back to Marquette would be pretty great. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 21, 2014, 07:47:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
Will Milwaukee native and proven commodity oscar Weber get a look!?  It hurts to be spurned by a fiery douche bag in favor of a lesser program.  Sometimes your program needs a warm awkward hug.   :eek: :horrorsurprise: :ohno: :popcorn:

 :dunno:   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 22, 2014, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 04:52:33 PM
Sources: Virginia Tech to hire Marquette coach Buzz Williams

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html)

Just had him on one of the CBS studio chats with the group.  Okay-ish interview.  I really wonder about the comparo to Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 22, 2014, 05:47:58 PM
Quote from: ednksu on March 22, 2014, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 04:52:33 PM
Sources: Virginia Tech to hire Marquette coach Buzz Williams

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--virginia-tech-to-hire-marquette-coach-buzz-williams-214413688.html)

Just had him on one of the CBS studio chats with the group.  Okay-ish interview.  I really wonder about the comparo to Frank.

The lead benefactor for Marquette basketball is Dick Strong, a spectacular maniacal narcissist of the highest order.  Good for Buzz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
#Weber4Marquette?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 11:45:34 AM

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
#Weber4Marquette?

Would be the funniest thing ever to happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 11:45:34 AM

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
#Weber4Marquette?

Would be the funniest thing ever to happen.

Brad or Doug infighting would tear us apart.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 12:01:01 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 11:45:34 AM

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
#Weber4Marquette?

Would be the funniest thing ever to happen.

Brad or Doug infighting would tear us apart.

Was Brad a good recruiter here? Idr.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2014, 12:07:11 PM
We need to get this #Weber4Marquette thing going.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
http://m.jsonline.com/more/sports/goldeneagles/buzz-williams-needed-someone-new-to-appreciate-him-b99230830z1-251607361.html

They pay A LOT
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
http://m.jsonline.com/more/sports/goldeneagles/buzz-williams-needed-someone-new-to-appreciate-him-b99230830z1-251607361.html

They pay A LOT

Dick Strong used to pay Crean over $200K a year to come give a couple talks at Strong Funds.  I assume he's still doing that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 11:45:34 AM

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
#Weber4Marquette?

Would be the funniest thing ever to happen.

Brad or Doug infighting would tear us apart.
So who do we want if he did leave?  I'll say Brad, but would really like either hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 23, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Brad or Doug is a win-win.  I would like to see Foster in the pinwheel though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 23, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Brad or Doug is a win-win.  I would like to see Foster in the pinwheel though.
Yes, and it would be a huge mistake to hire someone else.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 23, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Brad or Doug is a win-win.  I would like to see Foster in the pinwheel though.
:thumbs:, A scenario where we could get both would be amazeballs, Brad's X's & O's and Doug recruiting  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 23, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 23, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Brad or Doug is a win-win.  I would like to see Foster in the pinwheel though.

I guess if we had to look tomorrow, we could hire someone other than Brad, but I'd be floored if it wasn't him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 23, 2014, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 23, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
http://m.jsonline.com/more/sports/goldeneagles/buzz-williams-needed-someone-new-to-appreciate-him-b99230830z1-251607361.html

They pay A LOT

Dick Strong used to pay Crean over $200K a year to come give a couple talks at Strong Funds.  I assume he's still doing that.

I don't believe there is a person named Dick Strong
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.

I would imagine the main reason that people are bringing him up (and I realize much of it is gEing) is because he had a really great season (and it was a great season).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2014, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.

fanning has
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on March 23, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.

I would imagine the main reason that people are bringing him up (and I realize much of it is gEing) is because he had a really great season (and it was a great season).
I think he did a good job while he was here as an assistant as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.

I would imagine the main reason that people are bringing him up (and I realize much of it is gEing) is because he had a really great season (and it was a great season).

Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.

Yes. (and I think he'll probably be pretty good)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ManBearPig on March 23, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on March 23, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I really like Brad, but hiring because of his connection to K-State and overall experience would be a much better reason than hiring him for what his team did this season. It was nice, but teams are made fun of (and often fail) for hiring coaches like Brad all the time.

Legitimate question, have been people been using that as a reason for him being hired on this board? Haven't paid attention. I mean, a season like this certainly doesn't hurt, and all thing being equal then it might become a factor, but lots of bad hires are definitely made using that criterion.

I would imagine the main reason that people are bringing him up (and I realize much of it is gEing) is because he had a really great season (and it was a great season).

Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.

Same criterion used for oscar w/ this years team
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
Brad should be at SFA for at least two more years (during which he will likely have a successful run as head coach), hopefully around that time oscar will be on his way out. I think he'll be the best option for us at that point in time. I don't think Doug will still be available in two years. Speaking of Doug, if Ford is fired soon is there any chance of the Pokes looking at him?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb566%2Fdrayc89%2FGottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg&hash=840eab0ba0ea58693de3bd93c5f02f12408bc351) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/drayc89/media/Gottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.

Yes. (and I think he'll probably be pretty good)

Why? Didn't they return like one of their top 5 scorers from last season?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
Speaking of Doug, if Ford is fired soon is there any chance of the Pokes looking at him?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb566%2Fdrayc89%2FGottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg&hash=840eab0ba0ea58693de3bd93c5f02f12408bc351) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/drayc89/media/Gottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg.html)

No. The Doug thing is over. Even if it weren't the differences between he and Hoiberg before he got to ISU are pretty broad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.

Yes. (and I think he'll probably be pretty good)

Why? Didn't they return like one of their top 5 scorers from last season?

I'm pretty sure just about every contributor was recruited by the previous coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 23, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
Brad should be at SFA for at least two more years (during which he will likely have a successful run as head coach), hopefully around that time oscar will be on his way out. I think he'll be the best option for us at that point in time. I don't think Doug will still be available in two years. Speaking of Doug, if Ford is fired soon is there any chance of the Pokes looking at him?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb566%2Fdrayc89%2FGottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg&hash=840eab0ba0ea58693de3bd93c5f02f12408bc351) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/drayc89/media/Gottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg.html)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2014, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2014, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Next year will be a much better indicator of how good of a head coach Brad is.

Yes. (and I think he'll probably be pretty good)

Why? Didn't they return like one of their top 5 scorers from last season?

I'm pretty sure just about every contributor was recruited by the previous coach

Yeah, they lost some good players, but all his good players this year were there last year. He loses 3 seniors.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
Speaking of Doug, if Ford is fired soon is there any chance of the Pokes looking at him?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb566%2Fdrayc89%2FGottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg&hash=840eab0ba0ea58693de3bd93c5f02f12408bc351) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/drayc89/media/Gottlieb_zpsb59efc01.jpg.html)

No. The Doug thing is over. Even if it weren't the differences between he and Hoiberg before he got to ISU are pretty broad.
I'll agree he's no Hoiberg, just an interesting prospect for the Pokes from my point of view. The OKstate fans I know all want Ford fired but they don't have a clear cut choice for his replacement.

Quote from: kim carnes on March 23, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 23, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
I don't think Doug will still be available in two years.



 :lol:
I didn't necessarily mean he'd already be coaching somewhere, just that he might have given up on it and settled in his broadcasting career
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2014, 09:15:29 PM
Yeah, Gottlieb is far from universally loved by that fan base the way Hoiberg was by ISU before he came back. Eddie Sutton barred him from practice for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 23, 2014, 09:43:49 PM
What about Archie Miller?  Nah, eff that.  We talkin' 'bout BRAD and DOUG, man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 23, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
#Bradillac
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on March 23, 2014, 09:50:09 PM
Let's hire Gottlieb as an assistant.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 23, 2014, 11:02:53 PM
Slightly off topic, but I re-read the first twenty pages of this thread, up to where Missouri hired Haith, and it was awesome stuff.  What a time capsule.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 24, 2014, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU

DJDT is talking about Memphis firing him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 24, 2014, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 24, 2014, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU

DJDT is talking about Memphis firing him.

Hmm.  He's really saying that?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2014, 04:47:50 AM
There are rumors in Stillwater of fans/donors wanting Doug. But if you have the money OSU does why in the world would you throw money at an unproven coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 24, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 24, 2014, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 24, 2014, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 20, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: eastcat on March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
We need this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Pastner

lol at the idea of Pastner leaving Memphis for KSU

DJDT is talking about Memphis firing him.

Hmm.  He's really saying that?

Quote
Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  9h
Ok, done with Memphis talk tonight. Thanks for letting me vent a bit! Almost back to Manhattan. Ready to decompress for a day.

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  9h
Talking with my Dad on it more, we think Pastner lives to fight another year... but that seat warmer button just got pushed for sure. Sucks.

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  9h
@kylewhut There are connections to Memphis assistants, but not really Pastner himself. Plus, who leaves for someone to come in? Doubt it.

Retweeted by Ryan Wallace
 DJamer Stephens ?@DdotJAY30  10h
Feeling it for my young boys... All my seniors keep your heads up #Tigernation

Retweeted by Ryan Wallace
 Antonio Anderson ?@ToneAnderson5  10h
Take this loss like a man but UVA isn't 20pts better than us

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
I'm torn down the middle. I love Pastner but it's becoming hard to ignore. Wouldn't surprise me if Memphis is in a coaching search this week

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
Those two losses to finish a year are about as bad as I can remember in 10 years or so. With a team loaded in experience. I don't get it.

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
Between UConn in the AAC Tournament and now Virginia in the NCAAs, I've witnessed two unbelievably embarrassing losses. Maybe change IS due.

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
@MWZKC I know. Small minority

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
Really hope Memphis doesn't rush to judgement with Pastner after this. I like him & think the potential is there, but his seat is scorching.

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
Memphis is hardly giving any effort. It's like a 1 vs. a 16 as opposed to an 8. #HORRIBLE

Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE  10h
If the vocal displeasure of Josh Pastner is as loud as my relatives say it is in the city, if anyone cares for a stud recruiter, well...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Dude is bipolar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
He is such a dumbass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 24, 2014, 08:49:07 AM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Dude is bipolar

He hadn't decompressed yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2014, 08:56:16 AM
#scorching seats
#makin'news
#compression
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2014, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 24, 2014, 08:56:16 AM
#scorching seats
#makin'news
#compression

#seatwarmerbutton
#pressed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
Tony Bennett did put a clownsuit on Too Cool for School Favorite Josh Pastner last night.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 24, 2014, 08:49:07 AM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Dude is bipolar

He hadn't decompressed yet.

by decompressed do you mean beat that beat up?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 24, 2014, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: PowercatPat on March 23, 2014, 09:50:09 PM
Let's hire Gottlieb as an assistant.

Good idea.  Might make the #Dougites #BID crowd content, at last?  It's always seemed so small-timey to me to want to hire some guy with zero experience to run your program/business, just because he's sort of well-known for being on tee-vee.  Leave that type of hire to the Sun Belt schools.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 24, 2014, 12:09:22 PM
Bukaty brought up the oscar to marquette "rumors" on the border patrol this morning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 24, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
Gregg Marshall is surely  :driving: ??  Right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on March 24, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
Gregg Marshall is surely  :driving: ??  Right?

If he thinks his stock will go down this next year, he could maybe jump to Marquette.  If he thinks he can sustain success at WSU (of course not undefeated but tournament team), he will stick it out until better openings come around.

I think Mid-Major coaches used to think they had to go to a lower tier BCS job before getting the elite job.  Now they know they can just stick at their lower tier, dominate comfortably and still get that elite gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 24, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on March 24, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
Gregg Marshall is surely  :driving: ??  Right?

If he thinks his stock will go down this next year, he could maybe jump to Marquette.  If he thinks he can sustain success at WSU (of course not undefeated but tournament team), he will stick it out until better openings come around.

I think Mid-Major coaches used to think they had to go to a lower tier BCS job before getting the elite job.  Now they know they can just stick at their lower tier, dominate comfortably and still get that elite gig.
you can bet your ass wsu will play a tough non-con next year. he seems like the type that wants to shut people up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 24, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
 :peek: Underwood and Marshall are both moving  :peek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
Quote from: The1BigWillie on March 24, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
:peek: Underwood and Marshall are both moving  :peek:

Marshall to Marquette
Underwood to Wichita St
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
It will be interesting to see who Marquette gets.

Quote
At more than $260,000 per player per year, Marquette spends more on men's basketball than any school in the country except Duke. At $2.8 million a season, Williams was drawing a top-10 salary. The Golden Eagles stay in five-star hotels and little expense is spared on the coach during recruiting trips.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/buzz-williams-needed-someone-new-to-appreciate-him-b99230830z1-251607361.html#ixzz2wuAAZf9l
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2014, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
It will be interesting to see who Marquette gets.

Quote
At more than $260,000 per player per year, Marquette spends more on men's basketball than any school in the country except Duke. At $2.8 million a season, Williams was drawing a top-10 salary. The Golden Eagles stay in five-star hotels and little expense is spared on the coach during recruiting trips.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/buzz-williams-needed-someone-new-to-appreciate-him-b99230830z1-251607361.html#ixzz2wuAAZf9l


Mike Hunt really wanted to call Buzz the C word there
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 01:26:34 PM
Shaka Smart to 'Quette
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2014, 01:27:31 PM
Marshall should stay put this year. He has enough clout to get a blue-blood even if he drops off over the next couple of years. (I mean, how can it NOT drop off?)

If Underwood can land a WSU or equivalent, he should take it ASAP.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2014, 01:41:57 PM
Underwood should at least get somewhere that is not conference tournament or bust.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
I think Marquette is a pretty great job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Limestone on March 24, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
I think Marquette is a pretty great job

Cushy, if you will.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2014, 01:53:50 PM
Any of these coaches would be fools to go to Wake.  Syracuse, Duke, UNC, Louisville, VaTech just hired a pretty good coach, and Virginia may string together some good seasons.  No reason to take over a mid-level program in that hornet's nest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next

nice scoop, ksluke
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 24, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
So Marquette >> UCLA?  :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Tigerboard really wants Haith gone, but who of any merit would take a job at that hell hole?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next

nice scoop, ksluke
oh i thought you were just spitballin'

apologies there ERII
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Tigerboard really wants Haith gone, but who of any merit would take a job at that hell hole?

Brad Underwood probably would take it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
Didn't Shaka have some other decent schools trying to hire him in the last two yrs?  I mean, was he holding out for a job that was filled by someone else recently and decided to to take the next decent train? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Tigerboard really wants Haith gone, but who of any merit would take a job at that hell hole?

Brad Underwood probably would take it.

This is true.  How sad for us and him if that were to happen. 

You could have a really good team and there would be 1000's of empty seats for most games.  It really is a pathetic fan base given their logistics and the fact that their university system only allows one campus to really succeed.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next

nice scoop, ksluke
oh i thought you were just spitballin'

apologies there ERII

Who is reporting this?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 24, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next

nice scoop, ksluke
oh i thought you were just spitballin'

apologies there ERII

Who is reporting this?

I think this ended up being a "It's Patterson" sitch now that this late breaking oscar news popped up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
Marquette using Shaka as a pawn to force the oscar negotiations along.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).

Ford's wife looked like she was going to have a mental meltdown during their NCAA game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2014, 04:53:31 PM
James Dickey out at Houston, Alvin's Dad is now jobless  :Crybaby: 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).

I really wouldn't understand this. IMO you just ride it out with Ford as long as his classes continue to be as good as they are.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 24, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
There's probably a 5% chance they fire ford. Would cost a lot of $$$
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2014, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 24, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 24, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: kslim on March 24, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
shaka to marquette

next

nice scoop, ksluke
oh i thought you were just spitballin'

apologies there ERII

Who is reporting this?

I think it's just a bunch of VCU fans who want Shaka out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: OK Cat_24 on March 24, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
There's probably a 5% chance they fire ford. Would cost a lot of $$$
This was the biggest concern in one of the articles I read. OSU owes him another 11 million through 2019. He would have to have another high paying job waiting for him in order to keep OSU from losing that money. http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/johnehoover/john-e-hoover-if-travis-ford-is-out-at-osu/article_0eadc864-94a8-5971-aaf9-3178c7db9496.html.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
So, he becomes fireable in 3-4 yrs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 07:27:22 PM

Quote from: CNS on March 24, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
So, he becomes fireable in 3-4 yrs.
He can be our backup plan for oscar's replacement if Brad doesn't work out!!


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 07:27:22 PM

Quote from: CNS on March 24, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
So, he becomes fireable in 3-4 yrs.
He can be our backup plan for oscar's replacement if Brad doesn't work out!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
would rather not
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).

I really wouldn't understand this. IMO you just ride it out with Ford as long as his classes continue to be as good as they are.

Do you watch Oklahoma State games? The entire fan base hates him, those empty seats aren't producing a plug nickle. They can't ride this out until his buyout is pared down. Their already sad ticket revenue will no doubt be worse next season. If this continues next year, and it will, they have to cut him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 24, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Skinny(er) Jack Black has them in the Red?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 24, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Skinny(er) Jack Black has them in the Red?

:confused: don't see it


They're not in the red, that's nearly impossible for a high major mens basketball program; but they are certainly leaving cash on the table, lots of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 12:35:07 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).

I really wouldn't understand this. IMO you just ride it out with Ford as long as his classes continue to be as good as they are.

Do you watch Oklahoma State games? The entire fan base hates him, those empty seats aren't producing a plug nickle. They can't ride this out until his buyout is pared down. Their already sad ticket revenue will no doubt be worse next season. If this continues next year, and it will, they have to cut him.

yeah, but I think they would end up with someone worse, such as Mercer's head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 12:35:07 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Demo158 on March 24, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Grumblings that Ford will be fired and that the Pokes are taking a hard look at Bob Hoffman (Mercer's head coach with an Oklahoma background, presumably discovered Blake Griffin for OU).

I really wouldn't understand this. IMO you just ride it out with Ford as long as his classes continue to be as good as they are.

Do you watch Oklahoma State games? The entire fan base hates him, those empty seats aren't producing a plug nickle. They can't ride this out until his buyout is pared down. Their already sad ticket revenue will no doubt be worse next season. If this continues next year, and it will, they have to cut him.

yeah, but I think they would end up with someone worse, such as Mercer's head coach.

Probably. I wonder if they would have started talks with oscar Pearl if he was available last weekend. I think it would have been a great fit for both parties. They could poach someone elses coach too like VA Tech did.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 25, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
Those who think about Ford's buyout amuse me.

T. Boone. Pickens.

Case closed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 25, 2014, 01:14:12 AM
I still think he'll get one more year to prove himself (with either a confy win or tourney run). It seems like their Athletic department is much more concerned with Football anyways. But then again, I can't predict crap and Ford could very well be looking for a job by this time next week. Pearl did seem like a homerun hire for them if Ford is crap-canned...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 25, 2014, 08:16:55 AM
Quote from: bones129 on March 25, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
Those who think about Ford's buyout amuse me.

T. Boone. Pickens.

Case closed.

hobby sport.  t'pick is a football guy first.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
osu just needs to falsify some "for cause" issues like ku did w/ mangino and fire the guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksufan44 on March 25, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 25, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
osu just needs to falsify some "for cause" issues like ku did w/ mangino and fire the guy

Some made up story like Marcus Smart claiming he flops so much because he is constantly in fear when playing, from being physically assaulted in practice by Ford so much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 24, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Skinny(er) Jack Black has them in the Red?

:confused: don't see it


They're not in the red, that's nearly impossible for a high major mens basketball program; but they are certainly leaving cash on the table, lots of it.

Still don't see it?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbinaryapi.ap.org%2F7fcf4eb310bf4ab9933137f7d81cc0a5%2F460x.jpg&hash=d850d4365a1067c480b119136cac038699e3276d)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcollider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgullivers_travels_poster_jack_black_slice.jpg&hash=978770281fd25cd38b6259753af8ca959a953aff)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Calvin Simpson to Houston? I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on March 25, 2014, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Calvin Simpson to Houston? I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Purple denim shirts??   :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 25, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
Those who think about Ford's buyout amuse me.

T. Boone. Pickens.

Case closed.

Yeah he got rich by giving a mediocre basketball coach $10 million to go home and watch Maury because Mike Holder is a moron
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 24, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Skinny(er) Jack Black has them in the Red?

:confused: don't see it


They're not in the red, that's nearly impossible for a high major mens basketball program; but they are certainly leaving cash on the table, lots of it.

Still don't see it?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbinaryapi.ap.org%2F7fcf4eb310bf4ab9933137f7d81cc0a5%2F460x.jpg&hash=d850d4365a1067c480b119136cac038699e3276d)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcollider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgullivers_travels_poster_jack_black_slice.jpg&hash=978770281fd25cd38b6259753af8ca959a953aff)

:dunno: sorry friend

can someone else weigh in here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 25, 2014, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
:dunno: sorry friend

can someone else weigh in here

i've got nothing here either.  might be best left to daris.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 25, 2014, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
:dunno: sorry friend

can someone else weigh in here

i've got nothing here either.  might be best left to daris.

I dunno.  Maybe it's just the peaked eyebrows.  Can you see the second picture?  Was trying to make a joke by way of metaphor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 25, 2014, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Calvin Simpson

is that a joke that i don't get?  :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: mocat on March 25, 2014, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Calvin Simpson

is that a joke that i don't get?  :confused:

yes
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
Can you see the second picture?

nope
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
Can you see the second picture?

nope

Was a picture of Jack Black in Gulliver's Travells.  The scene where he's tied down by the Lilliputians in Lilliput. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2014, 04:42:12 PM
i see the resemblance and so anyone who can't = dumbass of the supreme order 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 25, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
does jack black look like a fat travis ford?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2014, 05:05:59 PM
Going to need Nacho Libre mock ups to make a judgment
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 25, 2014, 05:07:50 PM
someone put travis ford and jack black into one of those baby maker things
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2014, 05:09:47 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 25, 2014, 04:42:12 PM
i see the resemblance and so anyone who can't = dumbass of the supreme order

:runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2014, 05:32:54 PM
hey man, 37 yrs old eyes just don't work like they used to
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 26, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
What a dumbass.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10675532/south-florida-bulls-kill-coaching-deal-steve-masiello-lying-resume (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10675532/south-florida-bulls-kill-coaching-deal-steve-masiello-lying-resume)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: lopakman on March 26, 2014, 09:59:45 AM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 26, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
What a dumbass.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10675532/south-florida-bulls-kill-coaching-deal-steve-masiello-lying-resume (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10675532/south-florida-bulls-kill-coaching-deal-steve-masiello-lying-resume)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.sbnation.com%2Fimported_assets%2F551649%2Fwhitelies.jpg&hash=a476151605ec036ac5aa1e6ac94a096bb3ba9cfa)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MadCat on March 26, 2014, 12:36:48 PM
I'm not sure Travis Ford really is a fat man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF

Didn't somebody say that we interviewed him and he turned us down?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF

Didn't somebody say that we interviewed him and he turned us down?

don't remember the details, but i remember him being talked about a decent amount on here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF

Didn't somebody say that we interviewed him and he turned us down?

don't remember the details, but i remember him being talked about a decent amount on here

I wanted him more than anybody else.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2014, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF

Didn't somebody say that we interviewed him and he turned us down?

we just talked about him. I doubt currie even knows who he is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 31, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
UK's orlando antigua (hurrricane) to USF

Didn't somebody say that we interviewed him and he turned us down?

don't remember the details, but i remember him being talked about a decent amount on here

well if traditional blue blood USF was in on him i doubt we had a chance
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
I think Captain Crap hinted he wasn't interested in us in a very condescending way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20554.msg509568#msg509568
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20554.msg509568#msg509568

 :surprised: did not remember that
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 31, 2014, 03:26:37 PM
that was such a touchy part of that thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
I was such a dork. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 31, 2014, 05:28:19 PM
Sad to think about what could have been with Antigua. Can you imagine having the Harrison twins this year?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
Hide yo assistants hide yo players if cal needs a new recruiter. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on March 31, 2014, 06:37:58 PM
Interesting that we're discussing this on the 2 year anniversary of his hiring.  Also, yes, it was a terrible hire on paper.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 31, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
Hide yo assistants hide yo players if cal needs a new recruiter.

How funny would it be if Cal went after Josh Pastner?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 31, 2014, 10:08:11 PM

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
Hide yo assistants hide yo players if cal needs a new recruiter.

How funny would it be if Cal went after Josh Pastner?

Real funny.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2014, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 31, 2014, 10:08:11 PM

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
Hide yo assistants hide yo players if cal needs a new recruiter.

How funny would it be if Cal went after Josh Pastner?

Real funny.

 :lol:, and they'd catch UCLA in a hurry.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 01, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
ITS WOJO


sorry, oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 01, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
ITS WOJO


sorry, oscar.

wow.  he's recently just took additional responsibility at sister school duke after collins left.  the duke guys are on a roll right now though. glad for our sister school.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 01, 2014, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 01, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
ITS WOJO


sorry, oscar.

wow.  he's recently just took additional responsibility at sister school duke after collins left.  the duke guys are on a roll right now though. glad for our sister school.
How much longer is K going to coach?  Does the dizziness during the Wake game this year cause him to re-evaluate or are K and Boeheim locked into a (friendlier?) death match for all time victories like Bowden and Paterno?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 12:11:44 PM
K was quoted recently as saying at least 5 more years, but i think you're right, all time wins death match.

just had this convo while watching the 1st round games in hollywood with some elite sister school duke alums.  our consensus was that K will be there as long as it takes for collins to be ready and K to secure all time wins

wojo is too young and dawkins is too old
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 01, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 12:11:44 PM
K was quoted recently as saying at least 5 more years, but i think you're right, all time wins death match.

just had this convo while watching the 1st round games in hollywood with some elite sister school duke alums.  our consensus was that K will be there as long as it takes for collins to be ready and K to secure all time wins

wojo is too young and dawkins is too old
What about Tommy?

On the death match, I would not of guessed K is 3 years younger than Boeheim until I looked it up, I thought it was the other way around. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 12:21:15 PM
amaker was discussed too- did you know this is his 3rd HC gig?  my money would be on collins though
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 12:11:44 PM
K was quoted recently as saying at least 5 more years, but i think you're right, all time wins death match.

just had this convo while watching the 1st round games in hollywood with some elite sister school duke alums.  our consensus was that K will be there as long as it takes for collins to be ready and K to secure all time wins

wojo is too young and dawkins is too old

Did your Hollywood Duke party bros and broettes say what qualifies as ready as far as Collins is concerned?  Seems pretty vague for some rabid Tinseltown USA Blue Devil fanatics. :Bullsh!t: :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
ya we agreed about 5 years, USA time
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:19:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
ya we agreed about 5 years, USA time

Even if he stinks it up for the other purple wild wildcats of Evanston, IL?  Wojo has already delivered a nice meaty slappity slap to Chris' lips with the much better first job oppie.  Wojo is going to be gun blading NCAA tourney births and running train on BE confy 'ships while Chrissy is going to be the last segment in a Mark Turgeon-Tim Miles human centipede.  NCAA tourney I hardly knew ye says CC.  :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:22:42 PM
I think Wojo is exactly the kind of big headed shorty that would give Crissy a job oppie after he fails.  No associate head coach though.  It will be done to him as it was done to Jeff. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
When it comes down to it, Wojo is just a really solid good dude that will continue to behave accordingly.  We're all better for it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
When it comes down to it, Wojo is just a really solid good dude that will continue to behave accordingly.  We're all better for it.

Would love to have a beer with Wojo and swap stories about life.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
When it comes down to it, Wojo is just a really solid good dude that will continue to behave accordingly.  We're all better for it.

Would love to have a beer with Wojo and swap stories about life.

He's a little bull dog and I happen to have two of my own and therefore know they are fantastic friends.  Just the best kind of people. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
When it comes down to it, Wojo is just a really solid good dude that will continue to behave accordingly.  We're all better for it.

Would love to have a beer with Wojo and swap stories about life.

He's a little bull dog and I happen to have two of my own and therefore know they are fantastic friends.  Just the best kind of people.

Can they eat wings?  I picture Wojo and I having wings and beer, not just beer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
When it comes down to it, Wojo is just a really solid good dude that will continue to behave accordingly.  We're all better for it.

Would love to have a beer with Wojo and swap stories about life.

He's a little bull dog and I happen to have two of my own and therefore know they are fantastic friends.  Just the best kind of people.

Can they eat wings?  I picture Wojo and I having wings and beer, not just beer.

They eat everything.  Love all sorts of party type good time foods.  Except chocolate and grapes.  Those kill them. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on April 01, 2014, 03:48:08 PM


They eat everything.  Love all sorts of party type good time foods.  Except chocolate and grapes.  Those kill them.

No chocolate or grapes with Wojo.  Done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
if you're ever in durham and want wings w/ wojo, just hit up satisfactions, best sports bar in town

would love to see both wojo and chris gunblading ncaa apperos for years to come but dunno maybe it's just not possible in this atmosphere's milky way.  i guess tho if that's the case just teleport to a 3D printer locashe and transform the fax line it's attached to into a wormhole.  duh.  #wordy #noexplainoneccesaro
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 02, 2014, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
if you're ever in durham and want wings w/ wojo, just hit up satisfactions, best sports bar in town

would love to see both wojo and chris gunblading ncaa apperos for years to come but dunno maybe it's just not possible in this atmosphere's milky way.  i guess tho if that's the case just teleport to a 3D printer locashe and transform the fax line it's attached to into a wormhole.  duh.  #wordy #noexplainoneccesaro

this sounds like a strip club. my mom won't let me go to those kind of places.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
no strip club bro, just a great little sports pub in durham, nc usa. 

i love how everyone here can do nothing but talk about naked girls though, #telling
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 02, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 02, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
no strip club bro, just a great little sports pub in durham, nc usa. 

i love how everyone here can do nothing but talk about naked girls though, #telling

hey, I don't frequent those type of establishments. I'm just calling them like I see them, pal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Katpappy on April 02, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: Metalhead on April 02, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 02, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
no strip club bro, just a great little sports pub in durham, nc usa. 

i love how everyone here can do nothing but talk about naked girls though, #telling

hey, I don't frequent those type of establishments. I'm just calling them like I see them, pal.
Well it's all clear now; we at gE don't pay to BBS and we don't pay for our women either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10716167/mark-fox-georgia-bulldogs-given-2-year-contract-extension
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 02, 2014, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Katdaddy on April 02, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: Metalhead on April 02, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 02, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
no strip club bro, just a great little sports pub in durham, nc usa. 

i love how everyone here can do nothing but talk about naked girls though, #telling

hey, I don't frequent those type of establishments. I'm just calling them like I see them, pal.
Well it's all clear now; we at gE don't pay to BBS and we don't pay for our women either.

i really wish you wouldn't post about the opposite sex.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 02, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Danny Manning visiting with Wake Forest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 02, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
kelvin sampson to u of houston
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 02, 2014, 05:17:40 PM

Quote from: Tobias on April 02, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
kelvin sampson to u of houston

Good fur him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ManBearPig on April 03, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
Boston College just hired Jim Christian from Ohio. They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel imo. He Went 49-22 w/ Groce's players the past 2 years ad was a total dud at TCU before that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2014, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: ManBearPig on April 03, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
Boston College just hired Jim Christian from Ohio. They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel imo. He Went 49-22 w/ Groce's players the past 2 years ad was a total dud at TCU before that.

Well, Boston College is a bottom of the barrel kind of program.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GCJayhawker on April 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Reports are that Danny Manning accepted the Wake Forest job.  Why did you do it Danny, that place is a black hole for coaching careers.

Rumors are that Joe Dooley is going to be in the mix to replace Danny at Tulsa.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 04, 2014, 09:26:41 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2014, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: ManBearPig on April 03, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
Boston College just hired Jim Christian from Ohio. They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel imo. He Went 49-22 w/ Groce's players the past 2 years ad was a total dud at TCU before that.

Well, Boston College is a bottom of the barrel kind of program.

That Donahue hire couldn't have gone worse unless he was charged with major recruiting violations or maybe a sex crime.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gatoveintisiete on April 04, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
 :clap: Bread is the best I ever saw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 04, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on April 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Reports are that Danny Manning accepted the Wake Forest job.  Why did you do it Danny, that place is a black hole for coaching careers.

Rumors are that Joe Dooley is going to be in the mix to replace Danny at Tulsa.

Danny took the job today, which I'm OK with. He'll do a short turnaround with them to align himself to take the KU job when Bill leaves for whatever reason Bill leaves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 04, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on April 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Reports are that Danny Manning accepted the Wake Forest job.  Why did you do it Danny, that place is a black hole for coaching careers.

Rumors are that Joe Dooley is going to be in the mix to replace Danny at Tulsa.

Danny took the job today, which I'm OK with. He'll do a short turnaround with them to align himself to take the KU job when Bill leaves for whatever reason Bill leaves.

Danny, Tad, and Mark think they are going to be candidates but KU isn't stupid enough to fall into that trap. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2014, 08:33:21 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 04, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on April 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Reports are that Danny Manning accepted the Wake Forest job.  Why did you do it Danny, that place is a black hole for coaching careers.

Rumors are that Joe Dooley is going to be in the mix to replace Danny at Tulsa.

Danny took the job today, which I'm OK with. He'll do a short turnaround with them to align himself to take the KU job when Bill leaves for whatever reason Bill leaves.

Danny, Tad, and Mark think they are going to be candidates but KU isn't stupid enough to fall into that trap.

I hope you're right, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 05, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 05, 2014, 08:33:21 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 04, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: GCJayhawker on April 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Reports are that Danny Manning accepted the Wake Forest job.  Why did you do it Danny, that place is a black hole for coaching careers.

Rumors are that Joe Dooley is going to be in the mix to replace Danny at Tulsa.

Danny took the job today, which I'm OK with. He'll do a short turnaround with them to align himself to take the KU job when Bill leaves for whatever reason Bill leaves.

Danny, Tad, and Mark think they are going to be candidates but KU isn't stupid enough to fall into that trap.

I hope you're right, but I'm not sure.

KU won't need to, but if Zenger is still the AD, I wouldn't put it past them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 05, 2014, 09:46:38 PM
Phoggies are talking Doc Sadler or Norm Roberts to Tulsa. They're afraid Norm will take his recruiting prowess out of Lawrence. Doc would likely take it just to be in charge again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2014, 07:33:39 PM
Rumblings Cal is going to NBA next season.  Kentucky being open would get this thing spinning again. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 07, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
You gotta think Self would sprint to that Kentucky job, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2014, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 07, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
You gotta think Self would sprint to that Kentucky job, right?

Could you imagine?  I mean Roy went home and they are still super butthurt.  Can you imagine if Roy went to a school that wasn't a "home" scenario?  And Roy didn't NC with them.  Would get super ugly.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on April 07, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
if i were kentucky, i'd take kevin ollie over self 7 days a week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Cuonzo Martin to Cal
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 12:26:45 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Cuonzo Martin to Cal

weird
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2014, 12:31:37 PM
Holy crap he must really hate those guys. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2014, 12:32:24 PM
now Tennessee is going to come get oscar :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
Did oscar pearl leave that orange blazer for him?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 15, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Early smoke says It's Shaka
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
I mean, that's a lateral move, right? Besides getting to live in California and stuff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 15, 2014, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 15, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
I mean, that's a lateral move, right? Besides getting to live in California and stuff.
Lateral Job, Better Job (Better pay, Better Job Security, Jordan brand  :blush:)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 15, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Early smoke says It's Shaka

From Tennessee maybe.  Shaka ain't going near that job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
I'd consider Cal a worse job than Tennessee.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 15, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Early smoke always says Shaka
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 15, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Early smoke always says Shaka

or Brad Stevens
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 15, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 15, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 15, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Early smoke always says Shaka

or Brad Stevens

don't forget oscar weber
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 15, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 15, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: Limestone on April 15, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 15, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Early smoke always says Shaka

or Brad Stevens

don't forget oscar weber

What about that up and coming coach over at SFA?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
I'd consider Cal a worse job than Tennessee.

Martin hated the AD and the fans were calling for his firing this year. Tennessee was looking underwhelming next year, so it's as good a time as any to jump.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2014, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
I'd consider Cal a worse job than Tennessee.

Martin hated the AD and the fans were calling for his firing this year. Tennessee was looking underwhelming next year, so it's as good a time as any to jump.

Cal for one and So Carolina for the other
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
I'd consider Cal a worse job than Tennessee.

Martin hated the AD and the fans were calling for his firing this year. Tennessee was looking underwhelming next year, so it's as good a time as any to jump.

They were pretty shitty to Martin, they wanted him gone last year. Bad fit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Quote
GoodmanESPN: Tulsa has zeroed in on Missouri's Frank Haith, sources told ESPN. "Job is his if he wants it."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:38:07 PM
Quote
Jeff Borzelo of CBSSports.com reports that SMU assistant Ulric Maligi is a candidate to replace Kevin Keatts at Louisville.
This is good news for us! Will open up the Dallas Mustang pipeline up for us and Alvin. Hopefully Larry doesn't go after and get Alvin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
Yeah, Alvin has been a really pleasant surprise
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Quote
GoodmanESPN: Tulsa has zeroed in on Missouri's Frank Haith, sources told ESPN. "Job is his if he wants it."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What in the world?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
if mizzou loses a coach to Tulsa :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
A lot of action today.

Quote
GoodmanESPN: Marshall meeting with Stephen F. Austin head coach Brad Underwood today, sources told ESPN.

1. Underwood vs Huggins yearly matchup  :love: :love: :love:
2. Hope Underwood gets some good prep school connections before he starts his dynasty here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 17, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
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GoodmanESPN: Tulsa has zeroed in on Missouri's Frank Haith, sources told ESPN. "Job is his if he wants it."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What in the world?
What a weird situation for Mike Alden, also Frank Haith agent might be the BITB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 17, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Does Mizzou come after Weber?   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on April 17, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Does Mizzou come after Weber?   :ohno:

he gone
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2014, 02:42:56 PM
Sources close to the K-State basketball program are scared oscar would leave for Mizzou if offered. Take it fwiw STAY TUNED.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 02:46:46 PM
Missouri is close to Illinois. That used to be oscar's home. Lot of smoke here, guys.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on April 17, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 02:46:46 PM
Missouri is close to Illinois. That used to be oscar's home. Lot of smoke here, guys.
It gets him closer to Chicago, where he has won so many recruiting battles.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
 :nono: Stop it, guise. He's about to land a stud recruit. Not now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2014, 02:57:57 PM
CEASE FIRE!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2014, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 17, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 17, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Quote
GoodmanESPN: Tulsa has zeroed in on Missouri's Frank Haith, sources told ESPN. "Job is his if he wants it."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What in the world?
What a weird situation for Mike Alden, also Frank Haith agent might be the BITB.

I picture Mike Alden having the exact reaction I had; loling hard while reading this rumor on his device while enjoying a hearty poo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
confirmed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
Quote from: emawblast on April 17, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
if mizzou loses a coach to Tulsa :lol:

KSU to S Carolina isn't even as bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 17, 2014, 04:32:24 PM
This just greatly improved the quality of my drive home tonight.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on April 17, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
Mizzou to Tulsa? WTF?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2014, 05:54:28 PM
This thing spinning is so much fun you guys. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2014, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: emawblast on April 17, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
confirmed

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10797288/frank-haith-missouri-tigers-deal-coach-tulsa-golden-hurricane-per-sources (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10797288/frank-haith-missouri-tigers-deal-coach-tulsa-golden-hurricane-per-sources)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
Exciting to see who they get.  I hope he's a bad recruiter. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 17, 2014, 06:18:18 PM
Funny story:  On the radio they were throwing around the name of former Mizzou player Kim Anderson as a candidate that should be considered for the Mizzou job, and for a minute I was thinking "Kim English" and I was like "Wow, and they gave us crap about Gottlieb." But, turns out that they are not at all the same guy at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2014, 06:21:02 PM
Twitter says Tim Miles is the first one on their list.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 17, 2014, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 17, 2014, 06:18:18 PM
...But, turns out that they are not at all the same guy at all, because one isn't even a guy.

Phogged your post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2014, 06:47:44 PM
but it really is pretty amazing that there are two MU boy hoopsters named Kim.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 17, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
i hope someone writes an explanation of this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: sys on April 17, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
i hope someone writes an explanation of this.
In my line of work, ppl jump ship to another institution when not doing well and they get a raise for experience from the next school. I think this is a similar sitch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 17, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
In my line of work, ppl jump ship to another institution when not doing well and they get a raise for experience from the next school. I think this is a similar sitch.

i know manning was a "new" coach and all and i have no idea what resources tulsa has, but haith was making in the neighborhood of $1M more at mizzou than manning was at tulsa
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 17, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
In my line of work, ppl jump ship to another institution when not doing well and they get a raise for experience from the next school. I think this is a similar sitch.

i know manning was a "new" coach and all and i have no idea what resources tulsa has, but haith was making in the neighborhood of $1M more at mizzou than manning was at tulsa
I guess a few mill in the future is better than none after the next year. :dunno: I think he's pretty self aware at this point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 17, 2014, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
Quote from: WackySquawk08 on April 17, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
In my line of work, ppl jump ship to another institution when not doing well and they get a raise for experience from the next school. I think this is a similar sitch.

i know manning was a "new" coach and all and i have no idea what resources tulsa has, but haith was making in the neighborhood of $1M more at mizzou than manning was at tulsa

Rumor is Haith is getting in the 1.5 range.  Also, they offered Manning 1.7 to stay. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
i was seeing that tulsa was offering to bump manning up to 1.0-1.2 to stay (have to speculate on what he makes now) and that haith's mizzou contract was in the 1.6-1.7 range?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
also, "troubles" or not haith has a 0.614 as an HC at high majors and i don't imagine he would have had a ton of trouble finding a tulsa-level job after one more year at mizzou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 17, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
i was seeing that tulsa was offering to bump manning up to 1.0-1.2 to stay (have to speculate on what he makes now) and that haith's mizzou contract was in the 1.6-1.7 range?

Just saying what they were saying on Tulsa radio.  The guys talking about it were a mid-90s TU grad that's covered TU for 20 years and another guy who has written for the Tulsa World since the 70s.  Both are pretty well connected.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 17, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
Yeah, I seen the same thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
:thumbs:

i think haith had a guaranteed of 1.7 so tulsa's (private) pay is the real variable here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
Maybe Mizzou is just that rough ridin' miserable. Also, maybe his morals go as high ad the Miami fl job and all the corruption they've had lately steered him away. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 09:56:59 PM
congrats to coach haith, a proven winner both on and off the court.  the golden hurricanes got a good one, folks.  some might consider this Christmas in April, 3 days before Easter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 17, 2014, 09:58:10 PM
Jesus, that's a busy 4 day span...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
born, died and risen.   quite a week for our square headed master of hoops. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PowercatPat on April 17, 2014, 10:18:20 PM
I'd be happy if I were a Mizzou fan. Haith is awful.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 17, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
Mizzou is such a crap show right now. If anyone gave a crap about that school, then they would be taking an unbelievable amount of heat right now. Seriously, guys like Jay Bilas care more about K-State women's basketball than they do about Mizzou's entire athletic department.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
hopefully Brad gets a nice gig out of this shuffling of coaches. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 17, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
hopefully Brad gets a nice gig out of this shuffling of coaches.
I don't want him at Marshall tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 18, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
HEY-O

Quote
?@LostLettermen 
T'wolves reportedly want Fred Hoiberg. Batten down the hatches, Iowa St. fans. Will be very tempting offer...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 18, 2014, 08:31:31 AM
Although Haith was a lot more successful, this reminds me a bit of Altman to Creighton.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
If I were Hoiberg, I would bolt.  He could have limited success in the NBA for the next 3 years and still come back down to college to a better job than Iowa St.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: emawblast on April 18, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
HEY-O

Quote
?@LostLettermen 
T'wolves reportedly want Fred Hoiberg. Batten down the hatches, Iowa St. fans. Will be very tempting offer...

I hate to say this, but ISU is a better job than Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 18, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 18, 2014, 08:31:31 AM
Although Haith was a lot more successful, this reminds me a bit of Altman to Creighton.

ya it's very similar actually although I think when altman left he was at the end of his KSU rope and I believe Haith still had another year left at Missouri before being not fired/fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on April 18, 2014, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: emawblast on April 18, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
HEY-O

Quote
?@LostLettermen 
T'wolves reportedly want Fred Hoiberg. Batten down the hatches, Iowa St. fans. Will be very tempting offer...

Oh man.  The meltdown with FloodAggies will be glorious! :drool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2014, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
If I were Hoiberg, I would bolt.  He could have limited success in the NBA for the next 3 years and still come back down to college to a better job than Iowa St.

Yeah, he needs to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 18, 2014, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
If I were Hoiberg, I would bolt.  He could have limited success in the NBA for the next 3 years and still come back down to college to a better job than Iowa St.

There may be two or three jobs he considers better than ISU. I don't think he will go. He has 3 school aged kids, and he's at a place where he'll be loved more than he would anywhere else. This place is home for her and his wife also has the best job security ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 18, 2014, 12:13:40 PM
If I'm Alden I hire Underwood now. Seems like a no-brainer. Maybe Pastner? Gregg Marshall isn't going to pick up the phone for Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 18, 2014, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 18, 2014, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
If I were Hoiberg, I would bolt.  He could have limited success in the NBA for the next 3 years and still come back down to college to a better job than Iowa St.

There may be two or three jobs he considers better than ISU. I don't think he will go. He has 3 school aged kids, and he's at a place where he'll be loved more than he would anywhere else. This place is home for her and his wife also has the best job security ever.

this guy isn't and will never have to worry about job security.  he will pick where and when he works for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 18, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
This is a serious kick in the clangers for MethU fans and their misplaced SEC egos.   Your head men's b-ball coach just left you for . . . Tulsa (nothing against Tulsa).


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 18, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
This is a serious kick in the clangers for MethU fans and their misplaced SEC egos.   Your head men's b-ball coach just left you for . . . Tulsa (nothing against Tulsa).

They have already found excuses to explain the reasoning for him leaving.  Many are saying him leaving did MU a favor. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
adelman has officially retired
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
adelman has officially retired

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleacherreport.net%2Fimages_root%2Fslides%2Fphotos%2F002%2F388%2F952%2F50910003_display_image.jpg%3F1341585435&hash=13346e27d67f522109f25b8ae66b113b7e4d0007)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 10:55:49 AM
#GoHomeHoi
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2014, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
adelman has officially retired

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleacherreport.net%2Fimages_root%2Fslides%2Fphotos%2F002%2F388%2F952%2F50910003_display_image.jpg%3F1341585435&hash=13346e27d67f522109f25b8ae66b113b7e4d0007)

lol that picture is awesome.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
if Hoi left for the NBA would that result in the greatest ISU meltdown of all time?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2014, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
if Hoi left for the NBA would that result in the greatest ISU meltdown of all time?

if he left for KU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2014, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
if Hoi left for the NBA would that result in the greatest ISU meltdown of all time?

if he left for KU.

Oh man, had not considered this :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
if Hoi left for the NBA would that result in the greatest ISU meltdown of all time?

He isn't leaving but it would be hilarious to see their coaching lists include Smart and Marshall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2014, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: scottwildcat on April 21, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
if Hoi left for the NBA would that result in the greatest ISU meltdown of all time?

if he left for KU.

Oh man, had not considered this :lol:

"He wouldn't leave us for our biggest basketball rival."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
i really don't understand how someone like him doesn't take the NBA opportunity.  it's the highest level of the sport he's spent his life playing and involved with.  the thought of him turning down the opportunity to compete with and against the best for a world championship just doesn't seem to jive with the athlete/competitor that he is. 

ames will always be there unless another massive flood tries to wipe it out.  he can always return home.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

What does this mean? Can someone fill me in on the status of Fred's heart?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

it's just so Iowa statey
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 21, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

it's just so Iowa statey

Having a heart condition is Iowa Statey?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yat on April 21, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on April 21, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

it's just so Iowa statey

Having a heart condition is Iowa Statey?

Thinking that he'll receive better care for his heart condition from his friends and family in Ames, IA, than he would in any of the major metro areas where NBA teams are located is rather Iowa Statey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 21, 2014, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: yat on April 21, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on April 21, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

it's just so Iowa statey

Having a heart condition is Iowa Statey?

Thinking that he'll receive better care for his heart condition from his friends and family in Ames, IA, than he would in any of the major metro areas where NBA teams are located is rather Iowa Statey.

Hard to say. The big thing with that is family nearby means support for his kids and wife during the procedure, which will apparently take over a month of recovery. If it was in summer time, they could be sent to Ames too. Who knows. We don't want to lose our guy. It doesn't take a genius to realize that. Fans are obviously on pins and needles and are capable of making stupid comments while not on pins and needles.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on April 21, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: pvegs on April 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
"Fred has also said he knows he will have to have a major heart procedure sometime in the future. Given what he has in terms of security and family here in Ames, I just don't think he's going to consider a move--maybe EVER, but at the very least until that is done and over and he's completely recuperated."

it's just so Iowa statey

Having a heart condition is Iowa Statey?

no.  the post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
a whole month of recovery? :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 22, 2014, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
a whole month of recovery? :surprised:

Not uncommon with heart surgery, especially those requiring chest cracks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2014, 12:40:36 AM
Quote from: bones129 on April 22, 2014, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 21, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
a whole month of recovery? :surprised:

Not uncommon with heart surgery, especially those requiring chest cracks.

Golly, how would an NBA coach be able to afford babysitters and nurses for such a long time?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 22, 2014, 06:04:35 AM
The Mayo clinic is in greater Minneapolis.  I've heard good things about their doctors.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 22, 2014, 08:48:21 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 22, 2014, 06:04:35 AM
The Mayo clinic is in greater Minneapolis.  I've heard good things about their doctors.

The Mayo Clinic (in Rochester) is probably where the surgery would occur, even if he was still the coach in Ames.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2014, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 22, 2014, 06:04:35 AM
The Mayo clinic is in greater Minneapolis.  I've heard good things about their doctors.

Yeah.  A friend had a mystery illness that doctors in Charleston and Atlanta couldn't diagnose.

Went to Mayo, blam-diagnosed, symptoms mitigated, now fully recovered.

Fred should probably just move close by. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
if he truly does have a heart issue - and i want to be clear that i personally don't believe he does, the last place he will want to be is in ames, iowa, hundreds of miles from the closest competent cardiologist.

like i said though, i believe this heart thing is made up.  i'm guessing he came up with the idea to make recruits feel sorry for him so that they would transfer there.  "listen royce white, if you don't transfer here i might die"  type of crap.  very low brow. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HELLHAMMER on April 22, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
The price for a heart valve replacement in Ames is 5 show quality lambs and a gallon of homemade butter.  That could be a huge factor in him staying.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hemmy on April 22, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
My brother went to Mayo like 7 years ago and they couldn't figure out crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 22, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
My 80 year old grandmother (maybe 100 pounds soaking wet) had heart surgery and it only took 2 weeks to recover completely.

So it's either made up or he's a giant pussy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 22, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
I think they NBA may pay him enough to his family out.  Could probably even afford to put some of them up in a Days Inn if someone is already sleeping on his sofa in what will no doubt be a two bedroom cottage.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
hey guys my heart hurts can we have a 6 seed? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 11:16:54 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
hey guys my heart hurts can we have a 6 seed?

Sure, but don't expect any calls. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
hey i think i'm having a heart attack, can you switch your commitment from Duke to ISU since they're basically the same thing?  because otherwise i might die.   :jerk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 22, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
Flip Saunders is the Minnesota GM
Quote
"It's not the right opportunity for him to go to the NBA," Saunders told Hartman, "Do I feel someday he's going to be in the NBA? There's no question. He's going to be there. From a timing perspective, no matter where it's at, this is not the time."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 22, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
Flip Saunders is the Minnesota GM
Quote
"It's not the right opportunity for him to go to the NBA," Saunders told Hartman, "Do I feel someday he's going to be in the NBA? There's no question. He's going to be there. From a timing perspective, no matter where it's at, this is not the time."

that's too bad, i want this lying scumbag out of our league asap.  sadly, it looks like saunders is caught up in "the mayor's" little charade. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 22, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
Flip Saunders is the Minnesota GM
Quote
"It's not the right opportunity for him to go to the NBA," Saunders told Hartman, "Do I feel someday he's going to be in the NBA? There's no question. He's going to be there. From a timing perspective, no matter where it's at, this is not the time."

that's too bad, i want this lying scumbag out of our league asap.  sadly, it looks like saunders is caught up in "the mayor's" little charade. 



I think it's kind of sad that ISU employs the two coaches that are considered the biggest liars in the Big 12. More like Iowa Sketch if you ask me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 22, 2014, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 22, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
Flip Saunders is the Minnesota GM
Quote
"It's not the right opportunity for him to go to the NBA," Saunders told Hartman, "Do I feel someday he's going to be in the NBA? There's no question. He's going to be there. From a timing perspective, no matter where it's at, this is not the time."

that's too bad, i want this lying scumbag out of our league asap.  sadly, it looks like saunders is caught up in "the mayor's" little charade. 



I think it's kind of sad that ISU employs the two coaches that are considered the biggest liars in the Big 12. More like Iowa Sketch if you ask me.

Can you imagine the tall tales that those two have rolling off their forked tongues in the recruiting process?

Mercy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 22, 2014, 11:06:28 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/04/22/4975911/mu-reaches-out-to-kim-anderson.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/04/22/4975911/mu-reaches-out-to-kim-anderson.html)

It'll be great when they hire Wooly instead of Floyd.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theKSU on April 23, 2014, 07:17:11 PM
Quote
Stephen F. Austin coach Brad Underwood, a former Kansas State assistant for six seasons under Bob Huggins and Frank Martin, has not been contacted by Missouri, though Underwood told The Star on Tuesday that he’d be interested.

“That’s an unbelievable job,” he said. “That’s my type of job. The basketball aside, it’s been a great spot for many years with a ton of great players. It’s a great university, but I’m still the coach at Stephen F.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/04/22/4975911/mu-reaches-out-to-kim-anderson.html#storylink=cpy

Unless Mizzou is about to make a Gregg Marshall HR-type hire, they look really really dumb right now. Or they are just giving up on basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Hoibergs Horrible Heart on April 23, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
if he truly does have a heart issue - and i want to be clear that i personally don't believe he does, the last place he will want to be is in ames, iowa, hundreds of miles from the closest competent cardiologist.

like i said though, i believe this heart thing is made up.  i'm guessing he came up with the idea to make recruits feel sorry for him so that they would transfer there.  "listen royce white, if you don't transfer here i might die"  type of crap.  very low brow.

I'm not sure that you know exactly what you're talking about...

...Sorry, didn't mean to fly off the handle like that...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 24, 2014, 12:08:18 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/sports/ncaabasketball/iowa-states-fred-hoiberg-coaches-despite-heart-problems.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
Guys KK was really mean to Jack again last night.   :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
Kim Anderson :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 28, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
Kim Anderson :lol:

Amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 03:37:35 PM
MU fans are going to rage.   :Lurk: but with a bunch of these guys  :curse: and break crap signs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 03:38:10 PM
This basically means that they were told no by basically everyone from Gottlieb through Cal, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 28, 2014, 03:38:33 PM
Search firms are where the money is at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 03:39:35 PM
To be fair, MU finally hired a coach capable of making a F4 run...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Not sure why people are lol'ing at this. It's a good hire for Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 03:39:35 PM
To be fair, MU finally hired a coach capable of making a F4 run...

Pinkle.  Playoffs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Not sure why people are lol'ing at this. It's a good hire for Mizzou.
It's a very meh hire to me and a lot others. It's hard to project his D2 success to D1. I know he played there, but it just feels like a lazy hire to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 28, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Not sure why people are lol'ing at this. It's a good hire for Mizzou.

Because they had to hire a recruiting firm to get a guy that would have taken the job no questions asked, that's what's so funny.  Also, I'm assuming here, that Anderson was at the bottom of their list, so that's also funny.  It's clearly pretty funny. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 04:08:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 28, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Not sure why people are lol'ing at this. It's a good hire for Mizzou.

Because they had to hire a recruiting firm to get a guy that would have taken the job no questions asked, that's what's so funny.  Also, I'm assuming here, that Anderson was at the bottom of their list, so that's also funny.  It's clearly pretty funny.

Yes, it is funny they wasted 50,000 or whatever it was. And I doubt he was on the bottom of the list. The guy won 75% of his games at Central Mizzou. They weren't going to shell out the big bucks to steal a high profile HC. I'm sure they would have rather of had Ben Howland but he probably turned them down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 28, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
Searching firm provides liability for Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

This would be us hiring Bob Chipman when Altman left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AppleJack on April 28, 2014, 04:23:38 PM
Football school. Good move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
Quote
Alex Kline ?@TheRecruitScoop ·2 mins
RT @JucoRecruiting: JUCO SG Kevin Punter has decommitted from Missouri.

 :lol: That was quick.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 28, 2014, 04:40:47 PM
already got kim'd :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:42:50 PM
Great fit. Solid long term hire. Good job ole Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 04:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 28, 2014, 04:40:47 PM
already got kim'd :love:
Definitely!

https://sports.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Punter-153770
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 28, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 17, 2014, 06:18:18 PM
Funny story:  On the radio they were throwing around the name of former Mizzou player Kim Anderson as a candidate that should be considered for the Mizzou job, and for a minute I was thinking "Kim English" and I was like "Wow, and they gave us crap about Gottlieb." But, turns out that they are not at all the same guy at all.

Turns out Kim Anderson and Rich Daly are also not the same person, which I may or may not have thought.  (Obivously I need to spend more time thinking about Mizzou basketball assistants.)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.

http://m.kwch.com/sports/marshall-says-he-didnt-give-much-thought-to-leaving-wsu/25702332
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.
That's not true according to Jenn Bates tweets.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
my god I would be melting down so hard if I was mizzou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 28, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
A 59 year old D-2 coach who hasn't recruited against big boy schools in fifteen years is rough.  Given the lack of big spending to land the HC doesn't sound like they'll be going all out for assistants.  What's MU's transfer policy?  They better be huge dicks. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
How many times did Norm have to tell them he was happy in retirement this weekend before they moved on to Kim?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
This is quite a thing. http://www.kansascity.com/2014/04/26/4984552/alden-wouldnt-be-wrong-by-returning.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
This is Illinois hiring oscar from Southern Illinois only without Bill Self or Bill Self's players ever being in the equation. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 05:22:22 PM
Just think about it. Frank Haith left for Tulsa (conference USA school?) and they just hired on a D2 coach to take over. Leave out the names and look at it from that angle.  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
I mean, they could have at least swapped for Manning or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
This is Illinois hiring oscar from Southern Illinois only without Bill Self or Bill Self's players ever being in the equation.

Or without Weber's Sweet 16 and back to back NCAA appearances. Other than that, exactly the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2014, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 28, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
This is Illinois hiring oscar from Southern Illinois only without Bill Self or Bill Self's players ever being in the equation.

Or workout Weber's Sweet 16 and back to back NCAA appearances. Other than that, exactly the same.

. . . or years as a Big 10 assistant.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2014, 05:32:10 PM
So let me get this straight, an SEC school just hired a DII coach from just down the highway?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 28, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
This is Illinois hiring oscar from Southern Illinois only without Bill Self or Bill Self's players ever being in the equation.

No.  The Illinois AD at the time hired oscar because it was an ultra-safe hire.  oscar was never going to leave like Kruger and Self did.  It was dickless and weak and scared.  Illinois was attractive at the time.  Self and Kruger had it rolling.  He could have hired another up and coming guy like say Matta who would have been a challenge to hold onto if he blew up.  He was a small-minded scorned coward instead. 

This seems like a lack of options more than a safe hire.  I mean their last hire was very questionable and then he beat the posse out of town.  They're hurting.  They didn't want this, they had to accept it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
Fine
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.

http://m.kwch.com/sports/marshall-says-he-didnt-give-much-thought-to-leaving-wsu/25702332

It was pretty common knowledge that they weren't going to pay a coach $2 million and it's equally well known that Marshall isn't leaving WSU for less than $2.7, minimum, so I have to wonder how serious and lengthy the conversation went. They must have talked over the weekend because as of Friday Gary Parrish, obvs a better source than Jenn Bates, said that Mizzou didn't contact Marshall or his attorney. I'm guessing it was a last hail mary before settling on Anderson. Non old ballz Mizzou fans must be seeking answers as to why they couldn't make it work with Howland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.

http://m.kwch.com/sports/marshall-says-he-didnt-give-much-thought-to-leaving-wsu/25702332

It was pretty common knowledge that they weren't going to pay a coach $2 million and it's equally well known that Marshall isn't leaving WSU for less than $2.7, minimum, so I have to wonder how serious and lengthy the conversation went. They must have talked over the weekend because as of Friday Gary Parrish, obvs a better source than Jenn Bates, said that Mizzou didn't contact Marshall or his attorney. I'm guessing it was a last hail mary before settling on Anderson. Non old ballz Mizzou fans must be seeking answers as to why they couldn't make it work with Howland.

Yeah, I don't think they had any chance with Marshall. It is interesting that they talked. And yes, to seemingly make no attempt at Howland has to be infuriating to much of their fan base.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 05:55:11 PM
the smart fans rarely matter when it comes to coaching searches.  at least i know that no one from the AD contacted me during BruceWatch12 and i'm very smart and also have a cell phone (available 24/7)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 28, 2014, 07:09:25 PM
Everybody shut up and tell me exactly when BITB is going to have Jack Harry on his show to rip him apart for this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 28, 2014, 07:09:25 PM
Everybody shut up and tell me exactly when BITB is going to have Jack Harry on his show to rip him apart for this.
He's on every Wednesday.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Also, BITB has been saying he likes this hire all day. He likes him as a person and his chances of being successful at Mizzou.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 28, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 28, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Also, BITB has been saying he likes this hire all day. He likes him as a person and his chances of being successful at Mizzou.

BITB
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 07:58:04 PM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on April 28, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 28, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Also, BITB has been saying he likes this hire all day. He likes him as a person and his chances of being successful at Mizzou.

BITB
Definitely! He also said: "Listen Mizzou fans, I'm seeing the negative feedback out there from KU fans. IGNORE IT! They wish they had what you have in football and you wouldn't change that in a million years for what they have in basketball. YOU ARE WINNING THIS!" :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2014, 10:32:12 PM
BITB is fantastic . . . because he's trying to faux placate the fans of an SEC school who just went down the Interstate to hire the local DII head basketball coach.

Now Anderson may turn out great, but for any MethU fan who rolled with the SEC/SEC/SEC shtick this situation has to be embarrassing.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 28, 2014, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2014, 10:32:12 PM
BITB is fantastic . . . because he's trying to faux placate the fans of an SEC school who just went down the Interstate to hire the local DII head basketball coach.

Now Anderson may turn out great, but for any MethU fan who rolled with the SEC/SEC/SEC shtick this situation has to be embarrassing.

It took them about 18 months to completely turn their backs on basketball. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 28, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 28, 2014, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2014, 10:32:12 PM
BITB is fantastic . . . because he's trying to faux placate the fans of an SEC school who just went down the Interstate to hire the local DII head basketball coach.

Now Anderson may turn out great, but for any MethU fan who rolled with the SEC/SEC/SEC shtick this situation has to be embarrassing.

It took them about 18 months to completely turn their backs on basketball.

If Nebraska keeps getting better in basketball will they turn their backs on football  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.

http://m.kwch.com/sports/marshall-says-he-didnt-give-much-thought-to-leaving-wsu/25702332

It was pretty common knowledge that they weren't going to pay a coach $2 million and it's equally well known that Marshall isn't leaving WSU for less than $2.7, minimum, so I have to wonder how serious and lengthy the conversation went. They must have talked over the weekend because as of Friday Gary Parrish, obvs a better source than Jenn Bates, said that Mizzou didn't contact Marshall or his attorney. I'm guessing it was a last hail mary before settling on Anderson. Non old ballz Mizzou fans must be seeking answers as to why they couldn't make it work with Howland.

I was surprised how candid Marshall was about the meeting and the possibility of leaving WSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 28, 2014, 11:56:48 PM
I like Marshall. I don't like Mizzou. Glad he didn't seriously entertain going to Columbia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2014, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 28, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 28, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 28, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Its worse than if we hired Steve Henson, when Frank left, after being told no by clearly everyone else we could call for two weeks.

I don't think they got told no by as many people as you think. The price they were willing to pay a coach kinda limited who they were going to get. Hearing that they were going to be in the neighborhood of $1.5 mil, it seemed obvious that their targets were Anderson, Mike White, and an assistant somewhere. They didn't contact Gregg Marshall and I wonder if they didn't contact Ben Howland either. They really should have ended up with Howland.

http://m.kwch.com/sports/marshall-says-he-didnt-give-much-thought-to-leaving-wsu/25702332

It was pretty common knowledge that they weren't going to pay a coach $2 million and it's equally well known that Marshall isn't leaving WSU for less than $2.7, minimum, so I have to wonder how serious and lengthy the conversation went. They must have talked over the weekend because as of Friday Gary Parrish, obvs a better source than Jenn Bates, said that Mizzou didn't contact Marshall or his attorney. I'm guessing it was a last hail mary before settling on Anderson. Non old ballz Mizzou fans must be seeking answers as to why they couldn't make it work with Howland.

I was surprised how candid Marshall was about the meeting and the possibility of leaving WSU.

Speculation is that he's waiting for either Michigan State, Florida, Indiana, Louisville, UNC, or Kentucky; all of which could potentially be open as soon as next week or as late as 5 years from now.

Quote from: bones129 on April 28, 2014, 11:56:48 PM
I like Marshall. I don't like Mizzou. Glad he didn't seriously entertain going to Columbia.

:sdeek: there are hardcore WSU fans that don't like 2Gs; good coach, known assface
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2014, 09:02:43 AM
i honestly haven't watched WSU much outside of a few times this past couple of seasons...  what is marshall doing that has him seeing so much success?  common denominator of just having better players? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 09:21:01 AM
Some dope named Pat Forde is trashing Howland on 810 (now that Missou didn't get him)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: illBisonYourdele on April 29, 2014, 09:21:45 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2014, 09:02:43 AM
i honestly haven't watched WSU much outside of a few times this past couple of seasons...  what is marshall doing that has him seeing so much success?  common denominator of just having better players?

they have a dedicated chaplain/'character' coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2014, 09:02:43 AM
i honestly haven't watched WSU much outside of a few times this past couple of seasons...

no one has
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2014, 11:27:06 AM
Guys could it be said that Fort Hayes State plays at a higher level of basketball than the school that this Kim guy came from? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 29, 2014, 01:35:57 PM
I feel sorry for my co-worker Mizzou guy.  He actually didn't go to MIZ and I went to school with his KSU wife.  So, he's not obnoxious. 

But man, he took the Kim Anderson news hard.  As he should. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2014, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 29, 2014, 01:35:57 PM
I feel sorry for my co-worker Mizzou guy.  He actually didn't go to MIZ and I went to school with his KSU wife.  So, he's not obnoxious. 

But man, he took the Kim Anderson news hard.  As he should.

This MU hire is going to bring droves of similar ppl to us as tshirt fans.   Beginning of the end?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
Quote
I cheer for MU in Football but KSU in basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 29, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
Quote
I cheer for MU in Football but KSU in basketball.

Gotta say, I welcome our new T-Shirt B-ball fans.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 29, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
Quote
I cheer for MU in Football but KSU in basketball.

Gotta say, I welcome our new T-Shirt B-ball fans.

They are going to be super conflicted whenever Titletown comes up in convo.  But, hey, as long as they boo well, who am I to judge?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 30, 2014, 08:22:00 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 30, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 30, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
The real winners here are the tailors in Hattiesburg.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 08:50:53 PM
I hate being a stepping stone to Southern Miss.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
 :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxoEpVDGvPE

 :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
This is me right now guys:

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
He's just so perfect, guys.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 08:57:08 PM
 :love:

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Hoibergs Horrible Heart on April 30, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
A little piece of that man will stay inside me forever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 09:02:25 PM
I need some West Town Nachos.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 30, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
He looks so Ioway, yet so Nebraska-ey at the same time.  Maybe there isn't a difference?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 30, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 30, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
He looks so Ioway, yet so Nebraska-ey at the same time.  Maybe there isn't a difference?

HE WAS ALL OURS. OURS.

AND NOW HES GONE.

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rock Lobster on April 30, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 30, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
He looks so Ioway, yet so Nebraska-ey at the same time.  Maybe there isn't a difference?

Insider source tells me he gets his exercise by swimming the width of the Missouri River. That way at some point he gets to be in both states at the same time if only for a second.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 30, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
he was never yours, he belongs to no one

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on May 01, 2014, 12:19:46 AM
Do the Lakers get Bill or Cal.   I think its *time* for Bill to move on.  He has already accomplished so much.  He really needs a new challenge to spread his wings again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on May 01, 2014, 12:22:43 AM
Cal will stay where he is, too much talent to leave. Bill will stay at KU, too much "talent", per Tharpe, in Gardern to leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on May 01, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
Kobe turns 36 in August and is coming off of two major injuries. The LA job is dogcrap right now. Whoever becomes HC will be looking for work in 24 months.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on May 01, 2014, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: bones129 on May 01, 2014, 12:22:43 AM
Cal will stay where he is, too much talent to leave. Bill will stay at KU, too much "talent", per Tharpe, in Gardern to leave.

Self is gone if the OKC job opens up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on May 01, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on May 01, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
Kobe turns 36 in August and is coming off of two major injuries. The LA job is dogcrap right now. Whoever becomes HC will be looking for work in 24 months.

All of that is true, but you know they'll pay well. If I was a big name college coach I'd take the gig, make bank for a couple seasons, then when I'm fired snag some nice college gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on May 01, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
Kobe turns 36 in August and is coming off of two major injuries. The LA job is dogcrap right now. Whoever becomes HC will be looking for work in 24 months.

Go read the Lakers wiki page and ask yourself what they have had consistent success since they left Minneapolis.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on May 01, 2014, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on May 01, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on May 01, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
Kobe turns 36 in August and is coming off of two major injuries. The LA job is dogcrap right now. Whoever becomes HC will be looking for work in 24 months.

Go read the Lakers wiki page and ask yourself what they have had consistent success since they left Minneapolis.

They owe Kobe and Nash $33M next year. Unless LeBron goes there this summer (won't happen) they aren't in a very good situation. If Pau doesn't re-sign they are screwed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on May 01, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
They'll keep cap space open for KD for the offseason after next


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on June 23, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
D-2 Kim hired the Huntington Prep head coach as an assistant at Mizzorah. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on June 23, 2014, 08:06:11 PM

Quote from: Mr Bread on June 23, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
D-2 Kim hired the Huntington Prep head coach as an assistant at Mizzorah.

Amazing move.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on June 23, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
Could be.  Ballsy at least. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on June 24, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on June 23, 2014, 08:06:11 PM

Quote from: Mr Bread on June 23, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
D-2 Kim hired the Huntington Prep head coach as an assistant at Mizzorah.

Amazing move.


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Meh. Still need to coach or at least manage talent once it reaches Columbia. Greg McDermott could barely get 4 conference wins with Wesley Johnson and Craig Brackins, NBA players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on June 24, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
Hiring Prep coaches is stupid, go find a young guy with a couple ties that is willing to be road warrior.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on June 24, 2014, 11:49:16 PM
Frankly, don't think this is as big a deal as some think. Mizzou, after all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on June 25, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: bones129 on June 24, 2014, 11:49:16 PM
Frankly, don't think this is as big a deal as some think. Mizzou, after all.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on June 25, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
Lower tier gEers are terrified of mizzou.  hmm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on June 25, 2014, 12:28:58 PM
hopefully it goes better than aggie hiring John Reese and then dismissing his kid a few years later for drugs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 23, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Ben Howland to Miss State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 23, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Ben Howland to Miss State.

hmm, not bad. Wonder if he'll change anything about his style.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 11:47:57 AM
is bama still open or did they find someone?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 12:11:28 PM
https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/580053382787964928
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them

yep

It'll be interesting to see who Bama ends up with. I'm guessing they end up paying a lot less than $3 million for someone a lot shittier than gregg Marshall
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them

why
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 23, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
Bill is averaging 5.3 over his 10 years.  Surprised Bama isn't flaunting it more and going above 4 mil.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them

why

because he could go coach Indiana or a place like that if he just holds his horses
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 12:37:30 PM
oh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them

why

because he could go coach Indiana or a place like that if he just holds his horses

Marshall has put himself in position to pretty much pick his job, if he even wants to leave Wichita.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
alabama would be one of the least desirable power 5 jobs IMO. Its questionable where it even ranks in the SEC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
It's rough ridin' stupid for him to go to Alabama, and he only needs to look at Anthony Grant and Shaka Smart to see why. Rebuilding is stupid hard when you haven't been a head coach at that level. If I were Marshall, I wouldn't take Indiana, Texas, or any other program that fired its previous coach. Hold out for Self or Cal retiring or going to the NBA or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
It's rough ridin' stupid for him to go to Alabama, and he only needs to look at Anthony Grant and Shaka Smart to see why. Rebuilding is stupid hard when you haven't been a head coach at that level. If I were Marshall, I wouldn't take Indiana, Texas, or any other program that fired its previous coach. Hold out for Self or Cal retiring or going to the NBA or something.

Yeah, he can wait for what he wants.

This type of interest should get Wichita to pay him $2 Mil (or more) though. He's at $1.75 Mil now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2015, 12:53:57 PM
Roy will retire before Self or Cal. That being said, I really didn't think Self would ever leave for an NBA job. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Self considers it with the way his dumbass fanbase treats him. Maybe he doesn't care, but how the hell can you win 11 Big 12 titles in a row and have your fan base be unsatisfied because of your performance in the tournament after you won an NC 7 years ago?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 23, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
If I'm Gregg Marshall I only even listen to a handful of schools, and Alabama is not one of them

why

because he could go coach Indiana or a place like that if he just holds his horses

Marshall has put himself in position to pretty much pick his job, if he even wants to leave Wichita.
he wants to leave Wichita because he wants to win a national title and you cant' do that without recruiting real honest to god bigs. I mean, he brought Hurt in for an official visit for god's sake.

I want him at Texas soooo badly but I think he might listen to somebody like Bama.  He is a Southerner so I don't think he as hung up on being the HC at football school as his mannerisms might indicate.  I do think he wants a job that has a roster that can win right away and Bama's top 2 scorers graduating makes it unlikely imo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:57:45 PM
wherever he goes, it should be somewhere that the coach leaves in good standing. Like, if Anthony Grant had been kicking ass and took the Indiana job or something, then looking closely at Bama makes sense. The only case Marshall should consider replacing a fired coach is if Barnes for some stupid reason gets let go. But that's different, obviously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2015, 01:03:57 PM
marshall is a weird guy. like, doesn't he interview for a lot of gigs and get passed over because he's weird?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
ku would never hire gregG

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:57:45 PM
wherever he goes, it should be somewhere that the coach leaves in good standing. Like, if Anthony Grant had been kicking ass and took the Indiana job or something, then looking closely at Bama makes sense. The only case Marshall should consider replacing a fired coach is if Barnes for some stupid reason gets let go. But that's different, obviously.
I will be surprised if Barnes is back, if the new AD fired Mack after going 8-4 (7-2) with a chance to win the conference on the last game of the year there is no way he will keep Barnes.

Also, Donovan to the Magic rumblings are out there again and that job seems perfect for Gregg but I could see Florida preferring Shaka Smart.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 23, 2015, 01:10:32 PM
Unless a true blueblood like Kentucky or Duke wants him Marshall should stay at WSU and turn them into the Gonzaga of the Midwest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2015, 01:11:19 PM
I love when this thread gets fired up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
ku would never hire gregG



probably not. I wonder who they'd go for?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
Turgeon is about the only "family" hire.  I don't think Shaka turned down UCLA and Illinois but takes KU.  I could see a Jaime Dixon type taking it in a established coach needs a change of scenery kind of move. 

The one thing I do know is that KU fans will be scared shitless with the Cheyenne Zulu/BGL braintrust making the hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2015, 01:30:17 PM
i don't know who BGL is but every time somebody posts it i say Broseph Gordon Levitt in my head and smile
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2015, 01:30:47 PM
If it happened this year it'd be Turgeon for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 23, 2015, 01:37:43 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
ku would never hire gregG



probably not. I wonder who they'd go for?

Is KU a better job than Arizona?  I’d throw all the money in the world at Miller.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dual Ju on March 23, 2015, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: mocat on March 23, 2015, 01:30:17 PM
i don't know who BGL is but every time somebody posts it i say Broseph Gordon Levitt in my head and smile

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 23, 2015, 01:37:43 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
ku would never hire gregG



probably not. I wonder who they'd go for?

Is KU a better job than Arizona?  I’d throw all the money in the world at Miller.
KU might be a slightly better job (tradition is really KUs biggest adv) but I don't see Miller leaving something that he already has up and running just to play in AFH in town with worse weather and more recruiting challenges.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Tuscon is pretty isolated
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
i don't think that the appeal of running over a relatively weak b12, year in and year out, can be overstated.  with that said, i do think that bill self will leave KU for the NBA sooner rather than later.
no real rebuilding necessary either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
i don't think that the appeal of running over a relatively weak b12, year in and year out, can be overstated.  with that said, i do think that bill self will leave KU for the NBA sooner rather than later.
no real rebuilding necessary either.

It's instantly the best job unless Roy leaves the same year. But that doesn't necessarily mean they'd get whoever they want.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Tuscon is pretty isolated
its the same distance to PHX as MHK is to KC and it will always be easier to recruit Cali kids to AZ than KU.

Really, KU has the most in common with Indiana of all the blue bloods and that should give them real pause.  Hell, Indiana has much better regional recruiting than KU does.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 23, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
The one thing I do know is that KU fans will be scared shitless with the Cheyenne Zulu/BGL braintrust making the hire.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kansas.com%2Fsports%2Fcollege%2Fbig-12%2Funiversity-of-kansas%2Fur0j40%2Fpicture4363353%2FALTERNATES%2FFREE_960%2FKansas%2520Coach%2520Football.JPG&hash=7294450a8f16820cd37121757c543adc945ae76f)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2015, 02:10:46 PM
Have to think Tony Bennett would be at the top of KU or UNC's list.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
i don't think that the appeal of running over a relatively weak b12, year in and year out, can be overstated.  with that said, i do think that bill self will leave KU for the NBA sooner rather than later.
no real rebuilding necessary either.

It's instantly the best job unless Roy leaves the same year. But that doesn't necessarily mean they'd get whoever they want.


i don't think they'd offer just anyone.  seems like it would have to be the best of the younger long term guys?  the miller idea is a good one.  i would love for them to hire turgeon.
i'm also not sure if there are any nba guys who would consider the move but those guys are mostly all older and their age would disqualify them from consideration.

bennett is also a good younger long term stud candidate.  he's only 45, sheesh.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 23, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
KU fans I talk to all say "Brad Stevens" over and over again.

It's like Kentucky and Louisville got a big time college guy that failed in the NBA, so they need to get one of those, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Tuscon is pretty isolated
its the same distance to PHX as MHK is to KC and it will always be easier to recruit Cali kids to AZ than KU.

Really, KU has the most in common with Indiana of all the blue bloods and that should give them real pause.  Hell, Indiana has much better regional recruiting than KU does.

PHX/KC are irrelevant for a program the stature of AZ/KU. Really, national recruiting is far more important than both, but I would argue KU's proximity to Chicago and Texas and being closer to the East Coast is a lot more valuable.

And you are absolutely right that Indiana has much better natural recruiting base than KU does. (So does Notre Dame, for example).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 02:46:05 PM
Why would they want Turg?  That seems like a bad move for them, IMO.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
If I were Zulu, I'd go after somebody who can recruit. Scott Drew would probably be one of my top choices.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 23, 2015, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 23, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
KU fans I talk to all say "Brad Stevens" over and over again.

It's like Kentucky and Louisville got a big time college guy that failed in the NBA, so they need to get one of those, too.
Stevens is not failing at all in Boston. Their roster has been completely gutted for future 1st round picks and he has them 1/2 a game out of the playoffs. He's not leaving any time soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
Could you guys even imagine the kind of talent Rick Barnes would get at Kansas?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 23, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
Could you guys even imagine the kind of talent Rick Barnes would get at Kansas?

a smooth transition going to the Texas of Kansas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 23, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 23, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
KU fans I talk to all say "Brad Stevens" over and over again.

It's like Kentucky and Louisville got a big time college guy that failed in the NBA, so they need to get one of those, too.

Brad Stevens would hate the KU job, hates recruiting. KU fans have outrageous recruiting expectations to what limited resources they truly have (location).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on March 23, 2015, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 23, 2015, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 23, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
KU fans I talk to all say "Brad Stevens" over and over again.

It's like Kentucky and Louisville got a big time college guy that failed in the NBA, so they need to get one of those, too.
Stevens is not failing at all in Boston. Their roster has been completely gutted for future 1st round picks and he has them 1/2 a game out of the playoffs. He's not leaving any time soon.

This is correct. He's doing great.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2015, 07:17:03 PM

UNC will only hire a UNC guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2015, 07:18:40 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2015, 07:17:03 PM

UNC will only hire a UNC guy.

MAYBE they would slum it for a member of Roy's staff.  CB is what, 38? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 08:22:30 PM
Steve Robinson is 57, I don't know how they keep it in the family.  cb is too young,  maybe they do go outside  when it was their own people that oversaw the mess that they're in now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 08:31:50 PM
I think they have to go outside
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2015, 08:51:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/580183916478218240
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2015, 07:18:40 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2015, 07:17:03 PM

UNC will only hire a UNC guy.

MAYBE they would slum it for a member of Roy's staff.  CB is what, 38?
maybe they get addicted to Haase?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
I don't know what some of you are doing with the Texas and Alabama jobs.  They are for all intents and purposes the same job.  Yes, Texas is absolutely better but all of the things people trumpet that makes Texas great, Alabama has the same elements. 

They both have all the money a basketball program needs. They both are football schools in football states which leads to not nearly as much pressure on the basketball coach. They both play in conferences with one blue blood and a bunch of other schools that can easily be passed. They both have close access to many talented players. Alabama recruits Georgia, Florida,  Mississippi, Tennessee, and Louisiana just as easily as UT recruits east and west Texas.

If he's offered both UT is the better choice because they're more ready to win now but Alabama isn't nearly the pit some of you think it is. The $3 million was a starting point, Parrish said he wouldn't be surprised if they went to 4 or 5 for 3Gs.  He also said that Alabama will commit to improving facilities. Mike Slive apparently sent a directive to the schools outlining why it is important that they take basketball seriously. Finally Parrish said that Nick Saban will be actively involved in the bid for Marshall. He thinks Gregg will leave WSU for Alabama but will take UT if it's offered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 23, 2015, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
I don't know what some of you are doing with the Texas and Alabama jobs.  They are for all intents and purposes the same job.  Yes, Texas is absolutely better but all of the things people trumpet that makes Texas great, Alabama has the same elements. 

They both have all the money a basketball program needs. They both are football schools in football states which leads to not nearly as much pressure on the basketball coach. They both play in conferences with one blue blood and a bunch of other schools that can easily be passed. They both have close access to many talented players. Alabama recruits Georgia, Florida,  Mississippi, Tennessee, and Louisiana just as easily as UT recruits east and west Texas.

If he's offered both UT is the better choice because they're more ready to win now but Alabama isn't nearly the pit some of you think it is. The $3 million was a starting point, Parrish said he wouldn't be surprised if they went to 4 or 5 for 3Gs.  He also said that Alabama will commit to improving facilities. Mike Slive apparently sent a directive to the schools outlining why it is important that they take basketball seriously. Finally Parrish said that Nick Saban will be actively involved in the bid for Marshall. He thinks Gregg will leave WSU for Alabama but will take UT if it's offered.

Very interesting if true. Can't see Marshall staying where he is his entire career.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
4 milly is top 5 salary isnt it?  I was thinking that was more than thad, billy and izzo make.  5 million would be jaw dropping.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 23, 2015, 11:13:04 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
4 milly is top 5 salary isnt it?  I was thinking that was more than thad, billy and izzo make.  5 million would be jaw dropping.

'Bama wants it all. A natty in the big sports.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
4 milly is top 5 salary isnt it?  I was thinking that was more than thad, billy and izzo make.  5 million would be jaw dropping.

On his podcast Parrish mentioned 7 years $28 million.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 11:52:29 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
I don't know what some of you are doing with the Texas and Alabama jobs.  They are for all intents and purposes the same job.  Yes, Texas is absolutely better but all of the things people trumpet that makes Texas great, Alabama has the same elements. 

They both have all the money a basketball program needs. They both are football schools in football states which leads to not nearly as much pressure on the basketball coach. They both play in conferences with one blue blood and a bunch of other schools that can easily be passed. They both have close access to many talented players. Alabama recruits Georgia, Florida,  Mississippi, Tennessee, and Louisiana just as easily as UT recruits east and west Texas.

If he's offered both UT is the better choice because they're more ready to win now but Alabama isn't nearly the pit some of you think it is. The $3 million was a starting point, Parrish said he wouldn't be surprised if they went to 4 or 5 for 3Gs.  He also said that Alabama will commit to improving facilities. Mike Slive apparently sent a directive to the schools outlining why it is important that they take basketball seriously. Finally Parrish said that Nick Saban will be actively involved in the bid for Marshall. He thinks Gregg will leave WSU for Alabama but will take UT if it's offered.

The fact that Texas can easily win now is a pretty major difference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 23, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Greg is now in the spotlight.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 02:00:20 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 11:52:29 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
I don't know what some of you are doing with the Texas and Alabama jobs.  They are for all intents and purposes the same job.  Yes, Texas is absolutely better but all of the things people trumpet that makes Texas great, Alabama has the same elements. 

They both have all the money a basketball program needs. They both are football schools in football states which leads to not nearly as much pressure on the basketball coach. They both play in conferences with one blue blood and a bunch of other schools that can easily be passed. They both have close access to many talented players. Alabama recruits Georgia, Florida,  Mississippi, Tennessee, and Louisiana just as easily as UT recruits east and west Texas.

If he's offered both UT is the better choice because they're more ready to win now but Alabama isn't nearly the pit some of you think it is. The $3 million was a starting point, Parrish said he wouldn't be surprised if they went to 4 or 5 for 3Gs.  He also said that Alabama will commit to improving facilities. Mike Slive apparently sent a directive to the schools outlining why it is important that they take basketball seriously. Finally Parrish said that Nick Saban will be actively involved in the bid for Marshall. He thinks Gregg will leave WSU for Alabama but will take UT if it's offered.

The fact that Texas can easily win now is a pretty major difference.

Of course, but the point is that Alabama isn't some dog.  The advantage UT has now is almost solely attributable to Barnes. Also most competitive guys will absolutely think they can win at Alabama quickly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 02:04:18 AM
Quote from: bones129 on March 23, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Greg is now in the spotlight.   :popcorn:

He has been for the last two seasons. He wanted UCLA but they wouldn't wait for WSUs final four run to end.  Last year there wasn't a job good enough or a marginal job willing to pay him $4 million a year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 02:17:55 AM
I also want to talk about what Mississippi State did to Rick Ray :opcat:

Yes they were no good after his third year but when he took over the entire team was in Mississippi State's drug program. Pretty tough to get a team cleaned up, improve the grades and improve the apr, and win at a place like Mississippi State. So he cleans up the program and they repay him by working with Adidas to work out a deal with another coach while he still has a job. Also eff Ben Howland for doing that to another coach.

I wish the BCA actually had some power because this is the type of bullshit they fight against.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 24, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Not sure about the full story on Stansbury, but he "retired" after a 21 win season. The program may have had some off the court problems but it was still winning. Ray lost 19+ games all three years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2015, 08:39:02 AM
fire up the d@x signal
if anyone knows their budget, it would be him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 08:44:20 AM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 02:00:20 AM

Of course, but the point is that Alabama isn't some dog.  The advantage UT has now is almost solely attributable to Barnes. Also most competitive guys will absolutely think they can win at Alabama quickly.

I agree. I'm pretty sure I said he should consider Bama if Grant had improved the program and went for greener pastures. I don't think Barnes should be fired, because you're absolutely right that they are comparable to schools like Bama and LSU and he has blown them out of the water.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 08:54:36 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 24, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Not sure about the full story on Stansbury, but he "retired" after a 21 win season. The program may have had some off the court problems but it was still winning. Ray lost 19+ games all three years.

Yeah, I don't know either. I'm sure MIR is correct that the program was a mess when he arrived, but I would think Ray could make more push than he did in 3 years. The guy lost 62% of his games (75% in conference) and beat 5 total Top 100 teams over his first 3 seasons.

Also, I'm sure Stansbury is the probably the ultimate Bruceketball nightmare.

1998–99   Mississippi State   20–13   8–8   T–3rd (West)   NIT 1st Round
1999–00   Mississippi State   14–16   5–11   T–5th (West)   
2000–01   Mississippi State   18–13   7–9   T–4th (West)   NIT Quarterfinals
2001–02   Mississippi State   27–8   10–6   2nd (West)   NCAA 2nd Round
2002–03   Mississippi State   21–10   9–7   1st (West)   NCAA 1st Round
2003–04   Mississippi State   26–4   14–2   1st (West)   NCAA 2nd Round
2004–05   Mississippi State   23–11   9–7   3rd (West)   NCAA 2nd Round
2005–06   Mississippi State   15–15   5–11   5th (West)   
2006–07   Mississippi State   21–14   8–8   T–1st (West)   NIT Final Four
2007–08   Mississippi State   23–11   12–4   1st (West)   NCAA 2nd Round
2008–09   Mississippi State   23–13   9–7   3rd (West)   NCAA 1st Round
2009–10   Mississippi State   24–12   9–7   T–1st (West)   NIT 2nd Round
2010–11   Mississippi State   17–13   9–7   2nd (West)   
2011–12   Mississippi State   21–12   8–8   T–6th   NIT 1st Round

Mississippi State:   293–165 (.641)   122–102 (.545)   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2015, 09:40:26 AM
SEC basketball  :flush:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

Billy Clyde recently was fired after less than three.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2015, 09:43:53 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

You have to be REALLY bad... 38-57 bad... like, get blown out by Greg McDermott twice bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Lickliter

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2015, 09:45:46 AM
usually they have to go full Billy Clyde
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

Billy Clyde recently was fired after less than three.
TWICE!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 09:47:14 AM
LOL 3 years is BCG's longest stint at any school.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 24, 2015, 09:43:53 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

You have to be REALLY bad... 38-57 bad... like, get blown out by Greg McDermott twice bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Lickliter



Lickliter and Ray had nearly identical records over 3 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
everyone's favorite polo shirt model Pat Knight was also fired after 3 seasons (twice if you don't count Bob bailing mid season)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 24, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
If the BCA wants to make sure no black coaches ever get hired, they should cry racism every time a black coach is fired for failing miserably.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 24, 2015, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

Doherty
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
James Johnson was fired after two seasons. :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 24, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
everyone's favorite polo shirt model Pat Knight was also fired after 3 seasons (twice if you don't count Bob bailing mid season)
Also twice! :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 10:19:42 AM
Sean Sutton was fired after just 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 10:19:42 AM
Sean Sutton was fired after just 2 seasons.

Yeah, but the fact that he looked like an extra in the Walking Dead and sweat bourbon didn't help matters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
he was also addicted to painkillers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:29:09 AM
Also, RE: Alabama...

Grant proved that you could recruit at a high level there, and I guess I parallel that job to Florida more than Texas.  The SEC is ripe for a lot of meaningless wins (theoretically...hasn't panned out for Mizzou or Frank, unfortunately, though).  If Marshall just got them to the tournament 4/5 years, even at 4 million, I think they'd probably build a statue of him somewhere.

I mean, it would be somewhere they put statues of non-Football coaches, but it would be a statue nonetheless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
he was also addicted to painkillers

So, there's that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
he was also addicted to painkillers

So, there's that.

Definitely. But had Sean been to back to back NCAAs instead of NITs, OSU probably finds a way to "make it work".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2015, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
he was also addicted to painkillers

So, there's that.

Definitely. But had Sean been to back to back NCAAs instead of NITs, OSU probably finds a way to "make it work".

ISU and Larry  :bawl:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 24, 2015, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 24, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
he was also addicted to painkillers

So, there's that.

Definitely. But had Sean been to back to back NCAAs instead of NITs, OSU probably finds a way to "make it work".

ISU and Larry  :bawl:

Similar. If Larry's alcoholism and pics at Frat parties had been "discovered" two years earlier, ISU likely does all they can to help Larry while still keeping him on as coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 24, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Not sure about the full story on Stansbury, but he "retired" after a 21 win season. The program may have had some off the court problems but it was still winning. Ray lost 19+ games all three years.

Stansbury got players but the program was completely in shambles. His last year was a 20+ win season by it was also the same session where Renardo Sidney was fighting his teammates in the stands at the Diamondhead. The, I believe, top 6 scorers from that team were gone the next year because of graduation, the draft, or being kicked out of school. MUS didn't commit to basketball the way they should have so Stansbury cut corners to make it work. Ray got the directive to clean up the program but they still didn't commit resources. Ray did what they asked him to do, he got kids to go to class and pass drug tests and he didn't take kids like Renardo Sidney. He got them clean then they blindsided him. Now Howland gets the benefit of not having to change the culture of the program and he will absolutely get the benefit of greater resources.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Arizona State fired their coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 24, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Not sure about the full story on Stansbury, but he "retired" after a 21 win season. The program may have had some off the court problems but it was still winning. Ray lost 19+ games all three years.

Stansbury got players but the program was completely in shambles. His last year was a 20+ win season by it was also the same session where Renardo Sidney was fighting his teammates in the stands at the Diamondhead. The, I believe, top 6 scorers from that team were gone the next year because of graduation, the draft, or being kicked out of school. MUS didn't commit to basketball the way they should have so Stansbury cut corners to make it work. Ray got the directive to clean up the program but they still didn't commit resources. Ray did what they asked him to do, he got kids to go to class and pass drug tests and he didn't take kids like Renardo Sidney. He got them clean then they blindsided him. Now Howland gets the benefit of not having to change the culture of the program and he will absolutely get the benefit of greater resources.

That makes sense, but he still won less than 40% of his games there. Its hard to be patient in that situation and if a program in that situations puts out feelers and finds out they can hire a Howland, they are going to do it. Its not fair to Ray, but their fans want to win (even if their basketball fan base isn't huge) and I'm sure their patience had run out.

As for oscar, going back to Mo Valley level makes some sense. Its similar to why Buzz left Marquette for V Tech. Some guys don't want to put with the expectations (which seems to be a big part of why Buzz left).

Quote
Was Williams in trouble at Marquette?

Not at all.

He had made five NCAA Tournaments (in his first six seasons), advanced to the Sweet 16 three times and the Elite Eight once before the age 40, and most young coaches would become intoxicated with that level of success. Not Williams, though. He instead identified it as the bar set, and then he assembled "facts and data" in an attempt to determine whether it was reasonable to expect to maintain that level of success in a less-attractive Big East while playing league games off of ESPN and on Fox Sports 1. He concluded that it probably wasn't. And what would happen if he didn't? Answer: Williams would fall out of favor with his own fans the same way Ben Howland once did at UCLA, the same way most coaches who stay too long at any basketball-centric school eventually do. Consequently, Williams determined it was wiser to jump while he was still ahead, and though his contract at Virginia Tech is technically for less money on a per-year basis, it's a seven-year deal with an automatic rollover clause that will never allow it to be less than a five-year deal, meaning the security provided makes it a better deal for a man openly planning for the day he's fired.

Beyond that, the bar he set at Marquette no longer exists.

He has a fresh contract and fans with fresh sets of expectations.

Granted its much earlier in his tenure at K-State for oscar, but I'm sure with the issues this season brought, the draw of coaching at a lower level before he retires could be crossing his mind. He may even be having deja vu of his time at Illinois and be thinking, "why go through that again?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2015, 12:36:22 PM
im getting jacked for this thing to start spinning.   Hopefully texas opens up and then Self leaves for the NBA or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2015, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Arizona State fired their coach.

Going after Jeff Capel!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2015, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Arizona State fired their coach.

Going after Jeff Capel!

from one recently fired coach to another. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 24, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Not sure about the full story on Stansbury, but he "retired" after a 21 win season. The program may have had some off the court problems but it was still winning. Ray lost 19+ games all three years.

Stansbury got players but the program was completely in shambles. His last year was a 20+ win season by it was also the same session where Renardo Sidney was fighting his teammates in the stands at the Diamondhead. The, I believe, top 6 scorers from that team were gone the next year because of graduation, the draft, or being kicked out of school. MUS didn't commit to basketball the way they should have so Stansbury cut corners to make it work. Ray got the directive to clean up the program but they still didn't commit resources. Ray did what they asked him to do, he got kids to go to class and pass drug tests and he didn't take kids like Renardo Sidney. He got them clean then they blindsided him. Now Howland gets the benefit of not having to change the culture of the program and he will absolutely get the benefit of greater resources.

That makes sense, but he still won less than 40% of his games there. Its hard to be patient in that situation and if a program in that situations puts out feelers and finds out they can hire a Howland, they are going to do it. Its not fair to Ray, but their fans want to win (even if their basketball fan base isn't huge) and I'm sure their patience had run out.

As for oscar, going back to Mo Valley level makes some sense. Its similar to why Buzz left Marquette for V Tech. Some guys don't want to put with the expectations (which seems to be a big part of why Buzz left).

Quote
Was Williams in trouble at Marquette?

Not at all.

He had made five NCAA Tournaments (in his first six seasons), advanced to the Sweet 16 three times and the Elite Eight once before the age 40, and most young coaches would become intoxicated with that level of success. Not Williams, though. He instead identified it as the bar set, and then he assembled "facts and data" in an attempt to determine whether it was reasonable to expect to maintain that level of success in a less-attractive Big East while playing league games off of ESPN and on Fox Sports 1. He concluded that it probably wasn't. And what would happen if he didn't? Answer: Williams would fall out of favor with his own fans the same way Ben Howland once did at UCLA, the same way most coaches who stay too long at any basketball-centric school eventually do. Consequently, Williams determined it was wiser to jump while he was still ahead, and though his contract at Virginia Tech is technically for less money on a per-year basis, it's a seven-year deal with an automatic rollover clause that will never allow it to be less than a five-year deal, meaning the security provided makes it a better deal for a man openly planning for the day he's fired.

Beyond that, the bar he set at Marquette no longer exists.

He has a fresh contract and fans with fresh sets of expectations.

Granted its much earlier in his tenure at K-State for oscar, but I'm sure with the issues this season brought, the draw of coaching at a lower level before he retires could be crossing his mind. He may even be having deja vu of his time at Illinois and be thinking, "why go through that again?"

A big factor for Buzz was getting out of a basketball-only conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 24, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
dana wasn't fired when he left ksu for creighton  :Chirp:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
A big factor for Buzz was getting out of a basketball-only conference.

Yeah, Goodman mentioned in that article (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24592329/new-faces-new-places-why-did-buzz-williams-leave-marquette-for-vtu) about him studying leagues/teams that didn't have ESPN contracts. That article also makes me really like Buzz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
A big factor for Buzz was getting out of a basketball-only conference.

Yeah, Goodman mentioned in that article (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24592329/new-faces-new-places-why-did-buzz-williams-leave-marquette-for-vtu) about him studying leagues/teams that didn't have ESPN contracts. That article also makes me really like Buzz.

I liked Buzz way before that article. :hipsterbasketballfan:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on July 01, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
I love Buzz. 

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.

 :Chirp:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 12:59:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on July 01, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
I love Buzz. 

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.

 :Chirp:

Impressive. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 01:10:06 PM
FWIW, DJamer Newbill, the player Buzz dropped in the first link I quoted, averaged 21/game for Penn State this year

http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/12/dj_newbills_journey_to_penn_st.html

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

I mean, at least we got a GRCOAT out of the deal
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

One that drinks a lot and gets kicked out of West Towne Pub in Ames.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2015, 02:25:10 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

Matt Doherty
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 24, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

man when are you going to STOP talking about dana altman?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2015, 02:28:29 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 24, 2015, 02:25:10 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Do white guys ever get fired after three seasons?

Matt Doherty

Bread already said this, sorry
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
I'm thinking most coaches that have sub .400 records over 3 year stretches usually get fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2015, 03:01:44 PM
chezik made it 4
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
I'm thinking most coaches that have sub .400 records over 3 year stretches usually get fired.

just cause I looked up DJamer Newbill today

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Chambers

.391 after 3 years, AND got an extension this year after a 4-14 big 10 record
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 24, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

One that drinks a lot and gets kicked out of West Towne Pub in Ames.

Keitz told a story about when Chuggins left Manhattan he left a $13,000 tab at a bar/restaurant and he made K-State pay the tab because it was supposedly part of his contract.  Does anyone know the establishment, Harry's?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2015, 03:14:17 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 24, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

One that drinks a lot and gets kicked out of West Towne Pub in Ames.

Keitz told a story about when Chuggins left Manhattan he left a $13,000 tab at a bar/restaurant and he made K-State pay the tab because it was supposedly part of his contract.  Does anyone know the establishment, Harry's?

The Lou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
I'm thinking most coaches that have sub .400 records over 3 year stretches usually get fired.

just cause I looked up DJamer Newbill today

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Chambers

.391 after 3 years, AND got an extension this year after a 4-14 big 10 record

Wow. That's really bad. I guess that CBI quarterfinal appearance must have a lot of pull at Penn State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: Haverhill on March 24, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Buzz Williams has always really wanted the Texas Job, that is something to look for this offseason. Maybe Jamie Dixon, also has Texas roots.

What kind of punk coach would go somewhere for one year, then leave those fans in despair when the job they really wanted comes calling?

One that drinks a lot and gets kicked out of West Towne Pub in Ames.

Keitz told a story about when Chuggins left Manhattan he left a $13,000 tab at a bar/restaurant and he made K-State pay the tab because it was supposedly part of his contract.  Does anyone know the establishment, Harry's?

IIRC he hung out at a steak place next to Hillside Cafe and the giant Asian buffet who's name I can't remember. Townies?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
Including a bar tab in a coaching contract is pretty boss.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
Jeff Bzdelik finished 4 seasons at Wake with a .402 win%, but his last season he went 17-16. And that was AFTER a .382 record in three seasons at CU. :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
Doe's Eat Place
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
Jeff Bzdelik finished 4 seasons at Wake with a .402 win%, but his last season he went 17-16. And that was AFTER a .382 record in three seasons at CU. :sdeek:

Man, he was awful, outside his two years at Air Force. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bzdelik
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 24, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
Doe's Eat Place

LOL didn't they go out of business within a year or two of him leaving town?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2015, 03:28:18 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:30:15 PM
Matt Doherty went .385 in 4 seasons at SMU AND got two more years.

Sorry, this is interesting to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:30:15 PM
Matt Doherty went .385 in 4 seasons at SMU AND got two more years.

Sorry, this is interesting to me.

Oh, I agree, its very interesting. Find more!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:30:15 PM
Matt Doherty went .385 in 4 seasons at SMU AND got two more years.

Sorry, this is interesting to me.

Oh, I agree, its very interesting. Find more!

It's amazing how hard it is to find anyone that went under .400 over any period of time, at least at a high major.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:47:27 PM
Oliver Purnell went .340 at DePaul, (after going .611 at Clemson!)

Lesson: Don't take a job for money, Gregggg Marshall
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:47:27 PM
Oliver Purnell went .340 at DePaul, (after going .611 at Clemson!)

Lesson: Don't take a job for money, Gregggg Marshall

And in case you're wondering, the lowest winning % among active P5 coaches?

Buzz Williams, at .333

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2015-coaches.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
Surprisingly enough, Trent Johnson has made it three seasons with a sub-.400 record.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
Surprisingly enough, Trent Johnson has made it three seasons with a sub-.400 record.

He has upward trajectory. It's hard to find a job where that can ever be the case.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
Surprisingly enough, Trent Johnson has made it three seasons with a sub-.400 record.

He has upward trajectory. It's hard to find a job where that can ever be the case.

I was surprised he was that low
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 24, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
Surprisingly enough, Trent Johnson has made it three seasons with a sub-.400 record.

He has upward trajectory. It's hard to find a job where that can ever be the case.

They lose Anderson and Ziegler, I would expect them to take a step back next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Bzzz went 3 seasons with a sub-.400 record at Colorado and Wake Forest came along to hire him. :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 24, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.

Pfft
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.

Pfft

Gregg Marshall told Gary Parrish that, not sure why he would lie about it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.

Pfft

Gregg Marshall told Gary Parrish that, not sure why he would lie about it

Because it would alienate like half of the country, that's probably a decent reason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2015, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.
Looks like Buffalo wants to keep him. Drama.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.
Looks like Buffalo wants to keep him. Drama.
He brings most of his team at UB back next year. Probably not worth the move now when it could be a larger career jump next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2015, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.
Looks like Buffalo wants to keep him. Drama.
He brings most of his team at UB back next year. Probably not worth the move now when it could be a larger career jump next year.
I agree. Hold out for the KSU Cats next year. :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.

Pfft

Gregg Marshall told Gary Parrish that, not sure why he would lie about it

Because it would alienate like half of the country, that's probably a decent reason.

Why in the hell would Gregg Marshall even consider what someone in Brooklyn who may happen to hear Gary Parrish's podcast think about who is and isn't a donor for Wichita State basketball? Even if the Koch Brothers openly pumped millions of dollars into the program why would any liberal care and if they did, and if so it still wouldn't have any negative ramifications for Wichita State basketball? The Koch brothers give money to Kansas State University and there are about 10 people who spend any time even thinking about it. I seriously doubt there would be a single person that matters that would object if the Koch's gave $10,000,000 to KU or KSU athletics.

There is plenty of empirical evidence to show that the Koch's aren't involved in WSU basketball, like the fact that WSU had to buy a jet to fly to Omaha last week instead of using the buses the NCAA provides. Anyone who lives in Wichita knows that the Koch's have multiple jets and if they were big basketball supporters they absolutely would have given WSU athletics the use of one for that 45 minute flight. I also know for a 100% A+++ fact that at least as of 5 years or so ago there were no appearances by the Koch Brothers at very private WSU basketball events.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: joda on March 24, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 24, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I didn't know that stuff about Miss St when Ray got there. He did take over a program that won a little bit under Stansbury though and Ray's teams were awful. It would be hard to be patient with very little sign that the program was getting better.

And if Alabama is truly willing to double Gregg's salary, he should absolutely listen. What is the max Wichita will go to keep him? $2 Mil? $2.5?

I have no idea what WSU's athletics budget is but driving that entire budget is hoops so I have a hard time seeing how they wouldn't make more of an effort to keep him.

It depends partly on how much the Koch brothers will pay to keep him in Wichita.

The Koch brothers have their name on the arena, well Charles anyway, but they are not involved in the basketball program at all.

Pfft

Gregg Marshall told Gary Parrish that, not sure why he would lie about it

Because it would alienate like half of the country, that's probably a decent reason.

Why in the hell would Gregg Marshall even consider what someone in Brooklyn who may happen to hear Gary Parrish's podcast think about who is and isn't a donor for Wichita State basketball? Even if the Koch Brothers openly pumped millions of dollars into the program why would any liberal care and if they did, and if so it still wouldn't have any negative ramifications for Wichita State basketball? The Koch brothers give money to Kansas State University and there are about 10 people who spend any time even thinking about it. I seriously doubt there would be a single person that matters that would object if the Koch's gave $10,000,000 to KU or KSU athletics.

There is plenty of empirical evidence to show that the Koch's aren't involved in WSU basketball, like the fact that WSU had to buy a jet to fly to Omaha last week instead of using the buses the NCAA provides. Anyone who lives in Wichita knows that the Koch's have multiple jets and if they were big basketball supporters they absolutely would have given WSU athletics the use of one for that 45 minute flight. I also know for a 100% A+++ fact that at least as of 5 years or so ago there were no appearances by the Koch Brothers at very private WSU basketball events.

I wasn't trying to say that they were involved with the program. Just saying if they were closely involved with the program, then Gregg Marshal would have plenty of reason to lie about it. Just the possible distraction it could become would be enough reason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:43:26 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
I wasn't trying to say that they were involved with the program. Just saying if they were closely involved with the program, then Gregg Marshal would have plenty of reason to lie about it. Just the possible distraction it could become would be enough reason.

Nah. Everyone who knows or cares wrongly assumes they do anyway, even people in the media. You have to be a pretty devoted college basketball fan to know that Charles Koch's name is on the arena. Devoted sports fans are not the type of people who would give a crap about the political leanings of a donor, we're not talking about the EBC or the KKK.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 25, 2015, 09:10:06 PM
I'm not saying the Koch's are deeply involved, but there's definitely a relationship. If you google Gregg Marshall Charles Koch half the results involve the two people instead of the arena, including the ice bucket challenge video.

Koch wouldn't break the bank to keep Marshall there, but I'd bet he's part of the equation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on March 25, 2015, 09:19:15 PM
If he wanted to, Koch could pay Marshall the most ludicrous salary in CBB history for a decade with the equivalent of loose change buried beneath sofa cushions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2015, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: TheProdigiousTalent on March 25, 2015, 09:19:15 PM
If he wanted to, Koch could pay Marshall the most ludicrous salary in CBB history for a decade with the equivalent of loose change buried beneath sofa cushions.

Charles Koch is rich? I call bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 26, 2015, 03:00:11 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/581182500669652992


crap is about to get crazy. Apparently the Bradley job is about to get filled. I hope oscar gets a chance to run. Everything is too messy. I hope Cal and Self take NBA jobs. I want to watch everything burn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
I wonder how tied JC is to oscar if a quality guy hit the market and might have interest?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 07:56:18 PM
warm up the gregg Marshall to Alabama
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 08:16:38 PM
Yep.  Getting your ass handed to you in the.post season,  after public speculation about taking another job, is usually a pretty good indication.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 27, 2015, 08:35:12 AM
Add Tennessee to the list of schools in the SEC making a coaching change... Donnie Tyndall has been canned for NCAA violations he made at Southern Miss.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 27, 2015, 08:44:11 AM
Tennessee is a better job than Bama IMO. More tradition, better facilities, and doesn't have as big of a shadow from football.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2015, 09:09:41 AM
poor donnie
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 27, 2015, 09:15:40 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12566848/texas-longhorns-mulling-rick-barnes-job-status

What ya got Rick?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 09:18:23 AM
we should hire him immediately
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 27, 2015, 09:22:33 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 09:18:23 AM
we should hire him immediately

omg yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on March 27, 2015, 09:26:09 AM
I'd be ok with beating K-State three times a year and having them barely slip into the tournament.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 27, 2015, 09:26:56 AM
beat it havs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
NBA talent on our home court would rule this conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 27, 2015, 08:44:11 AM
Tennessee is a better job than Bama IMO. More tradition, better facilities, and doesn't have as big of a shadow from football.

Miles better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 09:40:49 AM
Do it, JC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 27, 2015, 09:44:18 AM
But if they can get Gregg Marshall they should ask Barnes to retire or whatever
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on March 27, 2015, 10:02:08 AM
But, but, Stanbot says that ADJC is peachy with Brucey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 27, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Barnes/Mack/DeLoss in a package deal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 27, 2015, 08:35:12 AM
Add Tennessee to the list of schools in the SEC making a coaching change... Donnie Tyndall has been canned for NCAA violations he made at Southern Miss.

:sdeek: damn

Quote from: nicname on March 27, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 27, 2015, 08:44:11 AM
Tennessee is a better job than Bama IMO. More tradition, better facilities, and doesn't have as big of a shadow from football.

Miles better.

It isn't better if they aren't willing to do the things Alabama will do now.  History and tradition doesn't mean a damn thing if your current commitment doesn't evolve with your peers. And that football point is bogus if you think Texas is one of the best jobs because the lack of basketball pressure because of the football team is largely cited as one of the reasons.  Also in this specific case if the most powerful coach in all of college athletics is willing to recruit you and cosign your hire it can only help you and the momentum of your program.

It's also worth noting that Alabama gave the last guy nine years and Tennessee essentially ran off a coach the same year he went to the sweet 16 then fired the next guy one year later for something he allegedly did at another school. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 27, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 27, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Barnes/Mack/DeLoss in a package deal.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2Fpost-29385-Ron-Swanson-YEAH-eyebrows-gif-tHVW.gif&hash=91e5be0556b884849c25921d4e304c947e5a3c5d)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2015, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
It's also worth noting that Alabama gave the last guy nine years and Tennessee essentially ran off a coach the same year he went to the sweet 16 then fired the next guy one year later for something he allegedly did at another school. 

I think this is the biggest thing. I'm sure a lot of coaches think Martin got the shaft there, even his own players at Tennessee were fine with him leaving last year. The perception there is the fans just want Pearl or whoever is the coach to be like Pearl. That's a hard personality to live up to.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 10:20:04 AM
Tennessee Altman'd Cuonzo? I didn't realize that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 27, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 27, 2015, 09:09:41 AM
poor donnie
yeah :frown:
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 10:21:34 AM
Omg
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2015, 10:22:40 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 10:20:04 AM
Tennessee Altman'd Cuonzo? I didn't realize that.

Kind of a mix of Altman'd and Frank'd.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24624246/new-faces-new-places-cuonzo-martin-knew-it-was-time-to-leave-vols
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2015, 10:40:03 AM
Alabama has nice b-ball facilities, Coleman got a pretty expansive overhaul awhile back, it seats 15,000 and they just opened Cribs Men's B-Ball Practice facility.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 10:52:46 AM
Quote from: Chingon on March 27, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 27, 2015, 09:09:41 AM
poor donnie
yeah :frown:
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Holy crap! How did you find a cartoon sad Donnie Tyndal?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Reggie Singlegur on March 27, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Quote
Tennessee is in such need of stability that it cannot take any risks with its next hire. It must find a coach who is squeaky clean in the eyes of the NCAA and committed to building a program in Knoxville for the long haul.

I know a guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2015, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: Reggie Singlegur on March 27, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Quote
Tennessee is in such need of stability that it cannot take any risks with its next hire. It must find a coach who is squeaky clean in the eyes of the NCAA and committed to building a program in Knoxville for the long haul.

I know a guy

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 27, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2015, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: Reggie Singlegur on March 27, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Quote
Tennessee is in such need of stability that it cannot take any risks with its next hire. It must find a coach who is squeaky clean in the eyes of the NCAA and committed to building a program in Knoxville for the long haul.

I know a guy

 :thumbsup:

#Bruceforvols #notpearl
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Catman2 on March 27, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.

So true, DePaul hasn't had a coach that could keep kids home since Ray Meyer in the 80's. Kentucky, Duke or KU get the best ones now.
1997-98 Conf. Champ team @ ILL, Kruger's roster had 14 of 16 in-state kids. That was amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2015, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2015, 10:40:03 AM
Alabama has nice b-ball facilities, Coleman got a pretty expansive overhaul awhile back, it seats 15,000 and they just opened Cribs Men's B-Ball Practice facility.
Bama actually had a pretty decent run in the 80s under Wimp and his plaid jacket.  Looking up his record on wiki (10 NCAA bids in 12 years :surprised:) i was reminded of his "exit"
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Nancy Watts, his longtime secretary, filed a sexual discrimination lawsuit against him and the university... Both Sanderson and Watts admitted they had had an affair from about 1970 to 1985, but both offered conflicting stories about what happened on March 17, 1992.

Watts said that on that day, two days before Alabama was to play Stanford in the NCAA Tournament, Sanderson punched her in the face, giving her a black eye, during an argument. Sanderson said Watts had become hysterical and that, in an effort to defend himself, he stuck out his hand. She collided with it, giving her a black eye

I guess there weren't any sinks in the room
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2015, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on March 27, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 27, 2015, 10:07:50 AM
Barnes/Mack/DeLoss in a package deal.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2Fpost-29385-Ron-Swanson-YEAH-eyebrows-gif-tHVW.gif&hash=91e5be0556b884849c25921d4e304c947e5a3c5d)

ya know what, eff it. I'm 100% on board with this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
Lavin out @ SJU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
Lavin out @ SJU

like, what happened there? they just made the ncaa. they aren't horrible losers like KSU. eff, I'd hire lavin. I'd actually hire most of the recently fired losers ITT. that's what we've become.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
Lavin out @ SJU

like, what happened there? they just made the ncaa. they aren't horrible losers like KSU. eff, I'd hire lavin. I'd actually hire most of the recently fired losers ITT. that's what we've become.

ADs who fire or otherwise run off coaches that consistently make the tourney are rough ridin' stupid and deserve every bad thing that ever happens to them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
Lavin out @ SJU

like, what happened there? they just made the ncaa. they aren't horrible losers like KSU. eff, I'd hire lavin. I'd actually hire most of the recently fired losers ITT. that's what we've become.

some ncaa thing maybe?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
i think it was just they could not agree on the terms of the contract going forward, and Lavin said he'll take his chances elsewhere
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
i think it was just they could agree on the terms of the contract going forward, and Lavin said he'll take his chances elsewhere

KANSAS STATE IS IN ELSEWHERE!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2015, 01:48:10 PM
yes would take
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2015, 01:48:14 PM
this thing is HEATING UP!
http://texas.247sports.com/Board/21/Contents/Texas-head-coach-Rick-Barnes-not-expected-to-return-36439238 (http://texas.247sports.com/Board/21/Contents/Texas-head-coach-Rick-Barnes-not-expected-to-return-36439238)

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Multiple sources have told 247Sports that Rick Barnes is not expected to return for an 18th season as the Texas Longhorns head coach.

Texas Men's Athletic Director Steve Patterson has demanded wholesale changes with the assistant coaching staff from Barnes, and Barnes is not expected to acquiesce to these demands.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
Lavin out @ SJU

like, what happened there? they just made the ncaa. they aren't horrible losers like KSU. eff, I'd hire lavin. I'd actually hire most of the recently fired losers ITT. that's what we've become.

Lavin only made the tourney twice in five years. He had a stacked experience team year 1 (#3 in experience per kenpom) and had to rebuild after that. But I mean, they've had fairly steady improvement after that. Kenpom went 37, 153, 107, 61, 49.

But again he's super experienced this year (#9) so they probably expected more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
If oscar can get Nigel out, he may save his job.  I mean, how many kids do you need kicked out before other candidates see the job as too much of a rebuild?  We gotta be pretty close to that, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Lavin, like oscar, is from the Keady coaching tree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 27, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
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The list for replacements, should Barnes opt to leave, will be long, as Texas is one of the top ten coaching jobs in the country. Gregg Marshall, Shaka Smart and Buzz Williams are among the names that will likely be involved.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/27/sources-rick-barnes-not-expected-to-return-to-texas/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/27/sources-rick-barnes-not-expected-to-return-to-texas/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 03:12:43 PM
Would love if we woke up like Tuesday and had Rick as a coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 27, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 28, 2012, 02:07:42 PM
steve dave: add weber to the "burn it down" list tia
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
If currie fired oscar and hired rick barnes he would easily have made the best hire in the history of the scho
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 04:06:27 PM
Minus my meltdown on Underwood hasn't recruited his own players (which apparently I was wrong. I can admit it. Minus last years team), I want him pretty badly. It would be an amazing fit!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 04:11:52 PM
Would rather Barnes. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 04:13:50 PM
I don't think Barnes is EMAW enough or young enough to want to take on the challenge that is our roster situation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 27, 2015, 04:15:10 PM

I have to believe that Tennessee has already asked ADJC permission to talk to oscar.    :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
hmm, does Barnes have the courage to take on Greggg like 5 heart oscar?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 1863 on March 27, 2015, 04:27:18 PM
Tennessee could use a squeaky clean image coach. With their situation they probably want a guy that won't rock the boat, won't make waves, draw attention to them, etc. oscar would actually make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 04:28:27 PM
Are you guys sure you wanna hire someone again, who just got fired?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
Keep oscar for next season and let barnes put together a team like 2005 huggs and rock the league in 16-17
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
Tennessee seems like the kind of place that wants to win, so that rules out oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2015, 04:32:37 PM
oscar would never take the Tenn job, they were mean to Cuonzo who is also a branch on the Keady coaching tree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 04:33:37 PM
Barnes and oscar are night and day.  I would hire a fired Barnes in a second.  We should go after him hard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 1863 on March 27, 2015, 04:39:08 PM
Not taking job because a program was mean to someone else on the same coaching tree has to be the dumbest way to make career choices.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 27, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: 1863 on March 27, 2015, 04:27:18 PM
Tennessee could use a squeaky clean image coach. With their situation they probably want a guy that won't rock the boat, won't make waves, draw attention to them, etc. oscar would actually make a lot of sense.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
Crean is safe. For now.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/03/27/glass-supports-crean-still-expects-iu-hoops/70561080/

And I don't think Texas let Barnes go without a good idea for his replacement already lined up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 05:13:47 PM
One of 3G's assistants just left for the East Tennessee job :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2015, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 05:13:47 PM
One of 3G's assistants just left for the East Tennessee job :runaway:

HE GONE
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 27, 2015, 05:33:54 PM

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2015, 05:35:01 PM
WSU would be a great oscar location.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
gregggg has had several assistants leave over the years, hasn't he?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
DAAWWWWNNIE!!!  no!  eff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 27, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
gregggg has had several assistants leave over the years, hasn't he?

Yes, he's replaced his "top assistant" about every other year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
if oscar Pearl played for King DeBruce, King DeBruce would dismiss him from the team
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
It would be entertaining if Pearl went back to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 08:20:45 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 27, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
It would be entertaining if Pearl went back to Tennessee.

Yes, wow
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2015, 08:30:04 PM
possible now that currie is gone
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2015, 11:05:03 PM
The good folks at shaggy bevo believe an announcement is coming monday.  They think its between utah's coach and greg marshall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2015, 11:07:58 PM
I think it's just stupid that Lon is out there being all successful at dumb, stupid schools like UNLV and OU when he could be here. Just stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
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Brian Davis
@BDavisAAS
Source tells @kbohls and myself that Texas officials will release Rick Barnes. They want swim team to get the big headlines today at NCAAs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:23:39 PM
#Barnes4KSU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
what if barnes came to ksu and took us to the ncaa 16 out of 17 seasons  :surprised:

it's not unprecedented that we'd let some stud legend coach to that age  :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
what if barnes came to ksu and took us to the ncaa 16 out of 17 seasons  :surprised:

it's not unprecedented that we'd let some stud legend coach to that age  :surprised:

oscar only has to have 14 straight NCAAs and he's done that too tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 28, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
Since Weber burned our barn to the ground, we need a new one...?


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
Rick Barnes Family Coliseum  :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
we could make Barn Stormers shirts!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
did you guys know that rick barnes had a higher winning percentage at texas than LHC Bill Snyder does at kstate? just a little food for thought for your brains.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
what did we learn from the failed gottlieb4ksu campaign that we can use for the barnes4ksu campaign?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
what did we learn from the failed gottlieb4ksu campaign that we can use for the barnes4ksu campaign?

be more aggressive
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 04:37:29 PM
Like calling curries personal residence?  i want to do my part.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
I already tweeted #Barnes4KSU and my nephew favorited it. I dunno what else I can do
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
oh man now Scott Wildcat retweeted me!  :ksu: This is gaining steam
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 28, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
oh man now Scott Wildcat retweeted me!  :ksu: This is gaining steam

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2015, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.

Get me the phone number and the exact time to do it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 04:58:01 PM
 
Quote from: Trim on March 28, 2015, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.

Get me the phone number and the exact time to do it.

 :horrorsurprise:
 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 28, 2015, 05:02:51 PM

SEIZE THE MOMENT.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12571138/rick-barnes-coach-texas-longhorns
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Isn't Rick a very clean no NCAA trouble kind of coach? Seems like we're into that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 28, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
Tennessee will snap Barnes up and he won't have to buy new ties or anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 28, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
So is texas all in on ggregggg?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
Patterson will probably go get an NBA guy and the fanbase will meltdown.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: uncle clean jeans on March 28, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.

:lol:

I love this
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 28, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
Could it be possible that we make the NCAA next yr AND fire oscar ?  why not. Texas just did.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 28, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
Quote from: Boondock Poonhound on March 28, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
Could it be possible that we make the NCAA next yr AND fire oscar ?  why not. Texas just did.

Minnesota did it to Tubby Smith and ucla did it to Ben Howland. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 09:56:15 PM
if we make the ncaa next year there's NO chance oscar gets fired
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 28, 2015, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 28, 2015, 09:56:15 PM
if we make the ncaa next year there's NO chance oscar gets fired

Ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 28, 2015, 10:18:52 PM

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
If he makes the tournament next year, he shouldn't be fired. GMAFB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 10:24:50 PM
Fire him before he has the chance
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2015, 10:28:30 PM
The best part about any discussion of oscar is everyone lives in their own carefully curated fantasy/nightmare with only the occasional brush with reality.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 28, 2015, 10:42:31 PM
Now we know Barnes is free, but if we are not going to free oscar, we should let coaches Lowery go, and make Barnes an associate coach.  This way oscar can give up the coaching, and be the PR guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 11:25:20 AM
Rumors out of Wichita of Gregg to Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 29, 2015, 11:26:41 AM
Oh man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 29, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.
holy crap this could work
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 29, 2015, 01:06:44 PM
Marshall ---> Texas
Chris Jan ---> WSU
Barnes ---> Tennessee
Capel --->  ASU
Dan Hurley ---> St. Johns 
Lavin ---> Bama
Weber ---> Bradley
Underwood ---> KSU
 
:gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
Bradley already got filled by Green Bay's Wardle. I also think there's a decent chance that Tennessee goes after Brad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
eff barnes.  i only want underwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 29, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
has underwood proven he can be successful with his own players?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2015, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: memphis on March 29, 2015, 02:11:02 PM
What if he goes to Bama?

currie should be fired immediately.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2015, 03:48:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 29, 2015, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: memphis on March 29, 2015, 02:11:02 PM
What if he goes to Bama?

currie should be fired immediately.

This has kind of become my stance, regardless.  I'm tired of him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2015, 04:20:42 PM

Quote from: 'taterblast on March 29, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
has underwood proven he can be successful with his own players?
lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: turnbull on March 29, 2015, 04:27:42 PM
If Gregg Marshall  leaves Wichita State  for Texas can we fire up the oscar Weber  to WSU talks
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 29, 2015, 04:36:16 PM
Quote from: turnbull on March 29, 2015, 04:27:42 PM
If Gregg Marshall  leaves Wichita State  for Texas can we fire up the oscar Weber  to WSU talks

Of course
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: uncle clean jeans on March 29, 2015, 04:42:57 PM
I want Brad too, but would honestly be 100% happy for him to show out at WSU. WSU would still be a great step up but also leave room for us to scoop him after a few years when we rid ourselves of an AD who doesn't care about winning basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 29, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 29, 2015, 01:06:44 PM
Marshall ---> Texas
Chris Jan ---> WSU
Barnes ---> Tennessee
Capel --->  ASU
Dan Hurley ---> St. Johns 
Lavin ---> Bama
Weber ---> Bradley
Underwood ---> KSU
 
:gocho:
St Johns has offered Chris Mullin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
hurley to st johns makes too much sense
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2015, 04:56:12 PM
Jeff Van Gundy @ texas would be a good fit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 29, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
https://twitter.com/brucefeldmncfb/status/582304527665094656

Edit: This actually may be a fake account

Edit2: This is a fake account
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 29, 2015, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 29, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
https://twitter.com/brucefeldmncfb/status/582304527665094656

Whoa! I figured he would go to Tejas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 29, 2015, 07:04:17 PM
Underwood to WSU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 29, 2015, 07:04:55 PM
Wow. Alabama?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: BackPayne on March 29, 2015, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 29, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
https://twitter.com/brucefeldmncfb/status/582304527665094656

Whoa! I figured he would go to Tejas.

I figured he was gone, but not to 'Bama. Shaka to the 'Horns?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 29, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
Fake account
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 29, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/03/29/wichita-state-gregg-marshall-texas-alabama

Did Texas mush 3G?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on March 29, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
Fake account

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
Whoever does take the Wichita St. job is definitely set for their first year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2015, 08:09:20 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
Whoever does take the Wichita St. job is definitely set for their first year.
Given the last 12 yrs or so, it's a good job that can get you a great job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2015, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
Whoever does take the Wichita St. job is definitely set for their first year.

This sounds like an argument for oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
So like is he going to Bama?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 29, 2015, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
Whoever does take the Wichita St. job is definitely set for their first year.

This sounds like an argument for oscar.

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(https://nbccollegebasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/spt-110214-weber_standard.jpg?w=298)

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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k-state.edu%2Ftoday%2Fcustom-images%2F2013-Jul-29_1247_54-big12_c.jpg&hash=01befd0ee4f3e8c93b563aa7e3be869c6ada81db)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2015, 08:33:39 PM

Inspiring.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 30, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
Can we change this thread's title to remove the featuring of the KSU cats?  Everytime I see it I get a glimmer of false hope.  When that day does come, when we are released from our bondage, I want to know the truth, the gospel of joy returning to KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2015, 07:38:01 AM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/582518577804275712 (https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/582518577804275712)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 30, 2015, 07:57:09 AM
Insider info from Pizza Hut money donor is Marshall is going to Texas. B source, as I am not certain as to how connected this person is.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
Quote from: Tobias on March 30, 2015, 07:38:01 AM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/582518577804275712 (https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/582518577804275712)
TBH, I'm surprised Lowery has stayed 3 years. When we hired him I thought it was a 1 or 2 year gig before he got another HC job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
TBH, I'm surprised Lowery has stayed 3 years. When we hired him I thought it was a 1 or 2 year gig before he got another HC job.

wut? either way, I'll be happy to see him go if we can unload him on someone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 09:05:43 AM


Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
TBH, I'm surprised Lowery has stayed 3 years. When we hired him I thought it was a 1 or 2 year gig before he got another HC job.

wut? either way, I'll be happy to see him go if we can unload him on someone.

When you consider what he's accomplished as both an AC and a HC, and that he's only 42 it's not ridiculous at all to think he'll get another shot. There are 351 D1 teams...that's a lot of head coaches and many of them aren't nearly as qualified.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2015, 09:08:29 AM
Also, good time for him to jump ship.  I mean, what is his value the longer oscar fucks crap up while he is on staff?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

That was Milwaukee not Green Bay. UW-GB is where Dick Bennett was before Wisconsin hired him. UW-GB is a better program than UW-Milwaukee
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

That was Milwaukee not Green Bay. UW-GB is where Dick Bennett was before Wisconsin hired him. UW-GB is a better program than UW-Milwaukee

Ah, crap.  Thanks for correcting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

I can't see anything that Lowry brings to the table. Maybe he does something positive that I'm not aware of but I have a hard time finding anything positive that anyone on this staff does.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

I can't see anything that Lowry brings to the table. Maybe he does something positive that I'm not aware of but I have a hard time finding anything positive that anyone on this staff does.

Brooks recruited Foster
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2015, 12:47:47 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

I can't see anything that Lowry brings to the table. Maybe he does something positive that I'm not aware of but I have a hard time finding anything positive that anyone on this staff does.

I'm positive he could eat the most cookies of anyone in Manhattan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 30, 2015, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
I can't see anything that Lowry brings to the table. Maybe he does something positive that I'm not aware of but I have a hard time finding anything positive that anyone on this staff does.

He used to always tweet about PURPLE!!!!! but he's either stopped or blocked us all so either way eff him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
the best thing he has done is the time he tweeted the picture of the bowl game ticket line and claimed it was people lining up for a KSU Hoops game
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 30, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 30, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
I was kind of surprised Lowry didn't find a spot after year 2. The end of his tenure at Southern Illinois was pretty bad though.

Green Bay is far enough down the list that they gave Pearl a shot after he was black listed.

So, I consider it a nice second chance gig that can be a jumping off point for bigger things.

If we get rid of Lowry, we'll either get better, or things will fall apart even more.  Either way, I'm not upset at all if he goes.

I can't see anything that Lowry brings to the table. Maybe he does something positive that I'm not aware of but I have a hard time finding anything positive that anyone on this staff does.

Brooks recruited Foster
Does Lowery get credit for Malik?  He definitely gets credit for DJamer and Tre and I think he was the lead on Hurt.  I lay the blame for Orris sole only oscar. It is pretty sad that we have over 40+ years of coaching exp in Indiana and Illinois and the best recruit from that area was because Buzz left and didn't want to take him along.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 30, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
Can't wait to see how we upgrade our coaching staff when he takes another job!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2015, 01:39:26 PM

Quote from: steve dave on March 30, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
the best thing he has done is the time he tweeted the picture of the bowl game ticket line and claimed it was people lining up for a KSU Hoops game

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 30, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/582630178322546688
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
wowzers!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2015, 02:53:54 PM
the fighting @leecrowe's! :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 30, 2015, 03:05:38 PM
Thank you Texas! there were rumblings UTenn might hire Underwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
If Bama gets a big name the SEC is going to have some great coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 03:09:53 PM
Jesus Christ that was fast.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2015, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
If Bama gets a big name the SEC is going to have some great coaches.

Their AD met with 3Gs this morning. I'd expect the Marshall decision to be made between Alabama, UT, and WSU by Wednesday morning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Catman2 on March 27, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.

So true, DePaul hasn't had a coach that could keep kids home since Ray Meyer in the 80's. Kentucky, Duke or KU get the best ones now.
1997-98 Conf. Champ team @ ILL, Kruger's roster had 14 of 16 in-state kids. That was amazing.
They rehired Leitao. He's the only one to have any kind of success there the last 25 years so maybe it's a good fit :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 03:59:40 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 30, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Catman2 on March 27, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 25, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bobby Hurley to Big East?
I have never understood how DePaul is so bad at basketball when they're surrounded by so much talent in Chicago.

So true, DePaul hasn't had a coach that could keep kids home since Ray Meyer in the 80's. Kentucky, Duke or KU get the best ones now.
1997-98 Conf. Champ team @ ILL, Kruger's roster had 14 of 16 in-state kids. That was amazing.
They rehired Leitao. He's the only one to have any kind of success there the last 25 years so maybe it's a good fit :dunno:

Interesting. Coaching searches are a lot different than they used to be. I imagine most people were scared shitless of DePaul. Leitao probably won't last more than 4 seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>VCU's Shaka Smart is in discussions with Texas about its head coaching vacancy, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSports">@CBSSports</a>. Story: <a href="http://t.co/0MH97vKYn9">http://t.co/0MH97vKYn9</a></p>&mdash; Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/582653253139173379">March 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 30, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 30, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>VCU's Shaka Smart is in discussions with Texas about its head coaching vacancy, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSports">@CBSSports</a>. Story: <a href="http://t.co/0MH97vKYn9">http://t.co/0MH97vKYn9</a></p>&mdash; Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/582653253139173379">March 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Great post for TT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzified on March 30, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 28, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
Tennessee will snap Barnes up and he won't have to buy new ties or anything.
Nailed it. Underwood to WSU probably has legs too after 3G moves on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
Shaka at Texas is NOT what I wanted.  He is likable, and I do not want to see KU fans spew their hatred at him...I would have enjoyed Marshall being on the receiving end of that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
i have a tennessee friend and wanted to compare the Barnes hire to the oscar hire but no. hell no. Barnes has been in the NCAA tourney 19 out of the last 20 years in his career. he has sucked lately in the tourney, but he's still gotten there. and i know, it's texas. but still.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
i have a tennessee friend and wanted to compare the Barnes hire to the oscar hire but no. hell no. Barnes has been in the NCAA tourney 19 out of the last 20 years in his career. he has sucked lately in the tourney, but he's still gotten there. and i know, it's texas. but still.



yeah, what makes Texas a better job than Tennessee?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
i have a tennessee friend and wanted to compare the Barnes hire to the oscar hire but no. hell no. Barnes has been in the NCAA tourney 19 out of the last 20 years in his career. he has sucked lately in the tourney, but he's still gotten there. and i know, it's texas. but still.



yeah, what makes Texas a better job than Tennessee?

matthew mcconaughey
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 30, 2015, 06:43:06 PM
Someone posted a link to top recruits landed by school recently. Texas was right behind KU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2015, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 28, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
Tennessee will snap Barnes up and he won't have to buy new ties or anything.
Nailed it. Underwood to WSU probably has legs too after 3G moves on.

Chris Jans
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 30, 2015, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2015, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 30, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 28, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
Tennessee will snap Barnes up and he won't have to buy new ties or anything.
Nailed it. Underwood to WSU probably has legs too after 3G moves on.

Chris Jans

This makes more sense. Their returning players, mainly, VV, Baker, & Wessel would have some continuity while being Manhuggined'

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 08:37:52 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
i have a tennessee friend and wanted to compare the Barnes hire to the oscar hire but no. hell no. Barnes has been in the NCAA tourney 19 out of the last 20 years in his career. he has sucked lately in the tourney, but he's still gotten there. and i know, it's texas. but still.



yeah, what makes Texas a better job than Tennessee?

there's more talent to recruit in texas. other than that, not much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:40:12 PM
You have to live in Tennessee
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2015, 08:43:23 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:40:12 PM
You have to live in Tennessee
its gotta be better than kansas

Nashville? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 30, 2015, 08:43:23 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:40:12 PM
You have to live in Tennessee
its gotta be better than kansas

Nashville? 

Oh I thought we were comparing it to Austin, Texas. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
knoxville's nice.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 30, 2015, 08:50:18 PM
The Smoky Mountains are amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2015, 08:52:27 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 30, 2015, 08:43:23 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2015, 08:40:12 PM
You have to live in Tennessee
its gotta be better than kansas

Nashville? 

Oh I thought we were comparing it to Austin, Texas.
you weren't comparisoing it to anything, you were implyo that living in Tennessee would be bad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
If you're Texas and you have your pick who do you choose? Smart? Marshall? Someone else?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 30, 2015, 11:10:08 PM

Quote from: Trim on March 28, 2015, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: steve dave on March 28, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
to seriously get this ball rolling trim's going to have to call currie doing the oscar impersonation and quit. nothing's getting done until that happens.

Get me the phone number and the exact time to do it.

It'll absolutely work.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2015, 01:16:07 AM
Bitb also made a bunch of barnes/weber comparisons today and concluded that ksu made a better hire than tenn (if true)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 31, 2015, 01:17:30 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

Agree with MIR. Shaka owns VCU and they love him. Why go to Austin and play in the shadow of football?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 31, 2015, 05:51:21 AM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on March 31, 2015, 01:16:07 AM
Bitb also made a bunch of barnes/weber comparisons today and concluded that ksu made a better hire than tenn (if true)

Ha
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2015, 07:45:17 AM

Quote from: bones129 on March 31, 2015, 01:17:30 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

Agree with MIR. Shaka owns VCU and they love him. Why go to Austin and play in the shadow of football?

I bet Shaka thinks UT is a better job than VCU.  He seems like a rational human being.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
With the Donovan to the NBA possibilities Shaka may be slow playing Texas as I am sure he would rather have Florida. 

I think Marshall would be more fun have in the league and the current roster is a better fit.


Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 08:32:08 AM
Quote from: bones129 on March 31, 2015, 01:17:30 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

Agree with MIR. Shaka owns VCU and they love him. Why go to Austin and play in the shadow of football?

Umm, that's not what I said, I don't agree with that at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:34:13 AM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

It's because he hasn't made any final fours since that one and it's how people measure success. It's wrong, but it's what happens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 31, 2015, 08:35:41 AM
i would like a new coach, when do we get to put our quarter in the carousel?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:35:45 AM
If I were Texas and I could get anyone, I'd get Brad Stevens. Unfortunately the new normal for Texas does not involve choosing whoever they want. As it is for their peer schools.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 08:39:33 AM
Quote from: chum1 on March 30, 2015, 06:43:06 PM
Someone posted a link to top recruits landed by school recently. Texas was right behind KU.

Barnes was right behind Self.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 08:46:41 AM
Yeah, being a Texas fan these past few years would have been very frustrating. He's still getting good results, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 31, 2015, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:35:45 AM
If I were Texas and I could get anyone, I'd get Brad Stevens. Unfortunately the new normal for Texas does not involve choosing whoever they want. As it is for their peer schools.
this still baffles me. I honestly think this coaching movement is far from over esp if ford gets bought out. i just hope someone sees something in weber that we all know isnt there
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
I would hire buzz ahead of either smart or marshall
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 09:36:09 AM
Buzz is probably the most attainable, too. (note: I have no idea what his buyout situation is at VT)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
Well, I know F'ite/TCfS Nation loves them some Rick Barnes, and hey, I kind of like Rick myself  (I mean I still love the guy from when he was at Clemson and decided he wasn't going to homered in the Dean Dome anymore and pretty much met Dean Smith at half court).   There was something that just wasn't right at Texas these past few years and they did underachieve IMO.
i am not sure if I saw it here or on ShaggyBevo but allegedly Barnes got super into his faith and church in the last few years  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
OSU going to buy out ford and hire #gottlieb4ksu :(
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
OSU going to buy out ford and hire #gottlieb4ksu :(
:horrorsurprise:

is this from your super good source?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
Well, I know F'ite/TCfS Nation loves them some Rick Barnes, and hey, I kind of like Rick myself  (I mean I still love the guy from when he was at Clemson and decided he wasn't going to homered in the Dean Dome anymore and pretty much met Dean Smith at half court).   There was something that just wasn't right at Texas these past few years and they did underachieve IMO.
i am not sure if I saw it here or on ShaggyBevo but allegedly Barnes got super into his faith and church in the last few years  :dunno:
Heard that as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 09:47:02 AM
Source: B+.  :(
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:34:13 AM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

It's because he hasn't made any final fours since that one and it's how people measure success. It's wrong, but it's what happens.

He's never finished first in any of the dogshit conferences he's been in. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on March 31, 2015, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 09:47:02 AM
Source: B+.  :(
have been reading this most of the morning, him or marshall have been mentioned but marshall is obv a wait and see
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
What makes you think Stevens isn't staying in the NBA? Cause he is
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
Yeah.  I get that.  Someone mentioned it above and I was addressing that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
What makes you think Stevens isn't staying in the NBA? Cause he is
The scenario was "what if Texas could hire anyone they want?" and I said Stevens, while noting that Texas can't hire anyone they want but congrats on being the smartest guy in the room with this new illuminating information
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 10:05:56 AM
Okay
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
What makes you think Stevens isn't staying in the NBA? Cause he is
The scenario was "what if Texas could hire anyone they want?" and I said Stevens, while noting that Texas can't hire anyone they want but congrats on being the smartest guy in the room with this new illuminating information
there have been rumblings in the NBA that the Cs have been more aggressive in adding pieces instead of just rough ridin' around and collecting assets like the 76ers because Stevens told them he doesn't want to keep losing and will go back to college.  It took a remarkable confluence of events with the 2 superstars in Ray Allen and Garnett that don't really care about going out for Boston to build a championship team.  I bet Stevens is back in college in less than 2 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 31, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
Well, I know F'ite/TCfS Nation loves them some Rick Barnes, and hey, I kind of like Rick myself  (I mean I still love the guy from when he was at Clemson and decided he wasn't going to homered in the Dean Dome anymore and pretty much met Dean Smith at half court).   There was something that just wasn't right at Texas these past few years and they did underachieve IMO.
i am not sure if I saw it here or on ShaggyBevo but allegedly Barnes got super into his faith and church in the last few years  :dunno:
Heard that as well.

Yeah there's talk within the Texas AD that this has led to his slippage because his priorities changed. Because of this they thought/hoped that he was just going to go home and quit at the end of the season. Guess not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:05:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:34:13 AM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

It's because he hasn't made any final fours since that one and it's how people measure success. It's wrong, but it's what happens.

He's never finished first in any of the dogshit conferences he's been in.

The A-10 isn't dogshit and they likely win it this year if they don't lose Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
Is marshall out of the running at texas already?  Something I read said it was down to shaka, Utah coach K and Chris Mack.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
What makes you think Stevens isn't staying in the NBA? Cause he is
The scenario was "what if Texas could hire anyone they want?" and I said Stevens, while noting that Texas can't hire anyone they want but congrats on being the smartest guy in the room with this new illuminating information
there have been rumblings in the NBA that the Cs have been more aggressive in adding pieces instead of just rough ridin' around and collecting assets like the 76ers because Stevens told them he doesn't want to keep losing and will go back to college.  It took a remarkable confluence of events with the 2 superstars in Ray Allen and Garnett that don't really care about going out for Boston to build a championship team.  I bet Stevens is back in college in less than 2 years.

If he leaves Boston his next job will be an NBA job, they love him. He's two failures away from having to go back to college. Good pro coaches don't leave the pros. There isn't a NBA gm that would take Self or Hoiberg over Stevens right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
Is marshall out of the running at texas already?  Something I read said it was down to shaka, Utah coach K and Chris Mack.

He hasn't talked to them yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Brad's holding onto that 8 seed in the East!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: sunny_cat on March 31, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Buzz would be great there.  I also like the idea of Stevens.
What makes you think Stevens isn't staying in the NBA? Cause he is
The scenario was "what if Texas could hire anyone they want?" and I said Stevens, while noting that Texas can't hire anyone they want but congrats on being the smartest guy in the room with this new illuminating information
there have been rumblings in the NBA that the Cs have been more aggressive in adding pieces instead of just rough ridin' around and collecting assets like the 76ers because Stevens told them he doesn't want to keep losing and will go back to college.  It took a remarkable confluence of events with the 2 superstars in Ray Allen and Garnett that don't really care about going out for Boston to build a championship team.  I bet Stevens is back in college in less than 2 years.

If he leaves Boston his next job will be an NBA job, they love him. He's two failures away from having to go back to college. Good pro coaches don't leave the pros. There isn't a NBA gm that would take Self or Hoiberg over Stevens right now.
I agree Brad is good but if Boston gets stuck in the same rebuild cycle they have been for 20+ years (with only the Big 3 run and the Pierce/Antoine ECF miracle run year as the exceptions) I don't see Brad choosing to stay in the NBA for what will likely be a 2nd tier job at best (current Trailblazers type job) instead of the 1st tier jobs waiting for him in cbb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I could see the NBA being very attractive for certain college coaches who don't enjoy the recruiting part of the gig.  I have no clue if Stevens is one of these guys.

Looking back, this specific reason makes me wonder why Bill never took a shot at the NFL. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I could see the NBA being very attractive for certain college coaches who don't enjoy the recruiting part of the gig.  I have no clue if Stevens is one of these guys.

Looking back, this specific reason makes me wonder why Bill never took a shot at the NFL.

Bill was good at recruiting back when NFL teams might have been interested in him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I could see the NBA being very attractive for certain college coaches who don't enjoy the recruiting part of the gig.  I have no clue if Stevens is one of these guys.

Looking back, this specific reason makes me wonder why Bill never took a shot at the NFL.

Bill was good at recruiting back when NFL teams might have been interested in him.

Just because he was good at it doesn't mean he likes it.  He himself has said that he never liked that part of the game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I could see the NBA being very attractive for certain college coaches who don't enjoy the recruiting part of the gig.  I have no clue if Stevens is one of these guys.

Looking back, this specific reason makes me wonder why Bill never took a shot at the NFL.

Bill was good at recruiting back when NFL teams might have been interested in him.

Just because he was good at it doesn't mean he likes it.  He himself has said that he never liked that part of the game.
Bill lies/says a lot of crap he doesn't mean
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 02:38:15 PM
If you're a NBA coach there is no college job better than any NBA job. NBA jobs don't have tiers like college jobs do. Either you're good or you're not. Of the three jobs that would be considered blue bloods if they were tiered like college jobs; two of them are complete disasters right now and one is the job Stevens has now battling for the last playoff spot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 31, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I could see the NBA being very attractive for certain college coaches who don't enjoy the recruiting part of the gig.  I have no clue if Stevens is one of these guys.

Looking back, this specific reason makes me wonder why Bill never took a shot at the NFL.

Bill was good at recruiting back when NFL teams might have been interested in him.

Just because he was good at it doesn't mean he likes it.  He himself has said that he never liked that part of the game.
Bill lies/says a lot of crap he doesn't mean

Well, yeah, but this one seems likely, if not true, given that he isn't exactly lining up the high rated kids.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
between the lakers and the knicks, i would take the LA job.  the problem in LA, which i agree could be traced back to management, is kobe
the knicks on the other hand have james dolan and that sucks worse than anything 
and i'm a life long knicks fan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 02:49:01 PM
there are absolutely tiers for NBA jobs.  The big market teams in great cities to live in will always have a draw elite free agents over Boston, Minn, Utah, Portland, OKC, etc.  If Boston fails to draft or sign an elite player like it did after pierce and before the big 3 could you blame Stevens for going to a place like UNC or Duke where he is in the home of any kid he wants?  Even the great football school jobs (Fla, Texas, tOSU) have built in advantages that make competing for titles much easier than even a pretty good NBA job like Portland.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 31, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
between the lakers and the knicks, i would take the LA job.  the problem in LA, which i agree could be traced back to management, is kobe
the knicks on the other hand have james dolan and that sucks worse than anything 
and i'm a life long knicks fan
another issue where college has the advantage over pro - the Blue Bloods will have the blood of an AD(Crushed Dove) and maybe even a President it if they cross a great coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 31, 2015, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 31, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
Well, I know F'ite/TCfS Nation loves them some Rick Barnes, and hey, I kind of like Rick myself  (I mean I still love the guy from when he was at Clemson and decided he wasn't going to homered in the Dean Dome anymore and pretty much met Dean Smith at half court).   There was something that just wasn't right at Texas these past few years and they did underachieve IMO.
i am not sure if I saw it here or on ShaggyBevo but allegedly Barnes got super into his faith and church in the last few years  :dunno:
Heard that as well.

Yeah there's talk within the Texas AD that this has led to his slippage because his priorities changed. Because of this they thought/hoped that he was just going to go home and quit at the end of the season. Guess not.

His wife had cancer which I think caused a lot of reflection on making meaning out of life.  After Dodds left, I think the "it being time to move on" was absolutely a two-way street between the people at UT (new AD, boosters) and Barnes.  Dodds got along with the old boy coaches and one by one they are leaving.  I doubt Augie has much time there anyway, but Patterson probably doesn't care nearly as much about baseball.

The way in which Patterson went about it was incredibly cowardly as well.  Good for Barnes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:05:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 08:34:13 AM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: nicname on March 30, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 30, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Smart

His style would be more fun, and would be very good with Texas-sized recruits, but his shine has worn a bit for me. He's been in a much tougher conference the last few years tho.

Why has the shine worn off, they're still winning?

It's because he hasn't made any final fours since that one and it's how people measure success. It's wrong, but it's what happens.

He's never finished first in any of the dogshit conferences he's been in.

The A-10 isn't dogshit and they likely win it this year if they don't lose Weber.

Not winning the A-10 or the Colonial once in six years is not impressive. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 04:16:33 PM
it did take Gregg 5 seasons at WSU to win the valley
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?
other than his DITRing he did win a pretty decent recruiting battle for Early.   I would love to know where he finds his unlimited supply of tough 6-7 posts that are very effective vs P5 bigs in the tournament.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 04:16:33 PM
it did take Gregg 5 seasons at WSU to win the valley

He won the crap out of the Big South.  Early and often. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?

Absolutely. The sustained success shows their recruits are contributing very soon, and they aren't having good seasons just by having a very experienced team. I mean Marshall started two sophomores for an undefeated regular season, of course he can recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?

Absolutely. The sustained success shows their recruits are contributing very soon, and they aren't having good seasons just by having a very experienced team. I mean Marshall started two sophomores for an undefeated regular season, of course he can recruit.

Good. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?

Absolutely. The sustained success shows their recruits are contributing very soon, and they aren't having good seasons just by having a very experienced team. I mean Marshall started two sophomores for an undefeated regular season, of course he can recruit.

My general point is that all too often mid-major coaches have great seasons because they luck into an experienced team - this isn't the case with Smart and Marshall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 31, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Making the tourney five years in a row is a significant accomplishment at Smart's level. It shows he can recruit, which is really what's most important.

Would you say that Gregg Marshall "can recruit" or more specifically that he has shown that as well?

Absolutely. The sustained success shows their recruits are contributing very soon, and they aren't having good seasons just by having a very experienced team. I mean Marshall started two sophomores for an undefeated regular season, of course he can recruit.

My general point is that all too often mid-major coaches have great seasons because they luck into an experienced team - this isn't the case with Smart and Marshall.
ya, ol' Dr. Tom Davis did this for his son Keno at Drake and he got the Providence job from the one good season. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
I would say Marshall lucked into Baker, but every coach walks into a diamond in the rough from time-to-time. Walk-on greats tho, are very rare in the basketball world.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 31, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
https://twitter.com/boonepickens/status/583029315945762816
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 31, 2015, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 31, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
I would say Marshall lucked into Baker, but every coach walks into a diamond in the rough from time-to-time. Walk-on greats tho, are very rare in the basketball world.

Kinda of lucked in to Fred Van Vleet, developed so much after he signed. Some smelly bigger schools were push him to go to prep school to get a chance to recruit him late. He also landed the Oregon transfer as a walk-on. That was big.

Marshall computers number plus his limited resources compared to Smart make him look far better. Marshall has been really good with his bigs. That will transfer anywhere.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Landry Shamet was a big get for him. Recognizing Van Vleet was somewhat lucky, similar to us with Foster. But really, at any level, it's good recruiting when you target a recruit that does better than most expected.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 06:25:05 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 31, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
https://twitter.com/boonepickens/status/583029315945762816

Will be fun to see what happens. The power struggle between the AD and Boone has been going on for a while, and it may get interesting with this. AD wants Ford gone, and now we see Boone wanting him to stay.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
Nevermind...AD just made statement that Ford is the coach. Guess Boone wins again!

#gottlieb4ksu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 31, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
IIIIIIIIII waaaaaaaaaaant Daaaaaaaaaaaalonte.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Hoiberg lost an assistant that came to ISU with him to St. John's today. The guy's name is too long and hard to spell.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Hoiberg lost an assistant that came to ISU with him to St. John's today. The guy's name is too long and hard to spell.

A powerful St. Johns would be very cool. They haven't been good for a long time.

Edit to add: Why on earth did Fran leave his NYC comfort zone for New Mexico? That was a career derailing choice.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 31, 2015, 11:26:26 PM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 31, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
Nevermind...AD just made statement that Ford is the coach. Guess Boone wins again!

#gottlieb4ksu

Great scoop
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 31, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Hoiberg lost an assistant that came to ISU with him to St. John's today. The guy's name is too long and hard to spell.

A powerful St. Johns would be very cool. They haven't been good for a long time.

Edit to add: Why on earth did Fran leave his NYC comfort zone for New Mexico? That was a career derailing choice.

fired

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/fran-fraschilla-st-johns-texas-am

he actually sat out a year before landing at New Mexico
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2015, 11:49:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 31, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Hoiberg lost an assistant that came to ISU with him to St. John's today. The guy's name is too long and hard to spell.

A powerful St. Johns would be very cool. They haven't been good for a long time.

Edit to add: Why on earth did Fran leave his NYC comfort zone for New Mexico? That was a career derailing choice.

fired

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/fran-fraschilla-st-johns-texas-am

he actually sat out a year before landing at New Mexico

Didn't realize. Very odd. I remember him from being very good at Manhattan in my youth. St.John's is such a weird story. Remember Felipe Lopez on the cover of SI with those funky looking city-skyline uniforms, Wth? It was a top-tier job for a long time after Carnesecca too. It still gets a lot of attention. NYC HS hoops, I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2015, 07:04:58 AM
St. Johns is the NYC version of DePaul.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 01, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Ford's buyout was pretty much his remaining contract value and about 10 mil.  Unless Pickens wanted Ford gone and was willing to foot the bill, he was never going anywhere.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 01, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Ford's buyout was pretty much his remaining contract value and about 10 mil.  Unless Pickens wanted Ford gone and was willing to foot the bill, he was never going anywhere.

Its possible (likely) that Boone/OSU put out feelers for who they wanted (Bill) and when those came back negative the best choice was keeping Ford around. Once Boone announced his support it was pretty much done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 01, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Ford's buyout was pretty much his remaining contract value and about 10 mil.  Unless Pickens wanted Ford gone and was willing to foot the bill, he was never going anywhere.

Its possible (likely) that Boone/OSU put out feelers for who they wanted (Bill) and when those came back negative the best choice was keeping Ford around. Once Boone announced his support it was pretty much done.

With a Burger Boy committed, I think waiting another year isn't the worst thing ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 01, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 07:04:58 AM
St. Johns is the NYC version of DePaul.
Yes, but their failure for success is much worse. They've been in a better conference longer and play their home games in the Garden. The post-Carnesecca era has been a nightmare.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2015, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 01, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Ford's buyout was pretty much his remaining contract value and about 10 mil.  Unless Pickens wanted Ford gone and was willing to foot the bill, he was never going anywhere.

Its possible (likely) that Boone/OSU put out feelers for who they wanted (Bill) and when those came back negative the best choice was keeping Ford around. Once Boone announced his support it was pretty much done.

He's not their only multi-billionaire donor, but he's definitely the face.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 01, 2015, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 01, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Ford's buyout was pretty much his remaining contract value and about 10 mil.  Unless Pickens wanted Ford gone and was willing to foot the bill, he was never going anywhere.

Its possible (likely) that Boone/OSU put out feelers for who they wanted (Bill) and when those came back negative the best choice was keeping Ford around. Once Boone announced his support it was pretty much done.

Would make sense.  I just thought that saying it showed a disconnect between the AD and Boone was a stretch. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 01, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
I sure hope this bidding war for oscar between Bama and Texas doesn't get too out of hand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 01, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 01, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 07:04:58 AM
St. Johns is the NYC version of DePaul.
Yes, but their failure for success is much worse. They've been in a better conference longer and play their home games in the Garden. The post-Carnesecca era has been a nightmare.

St. John's and DePaul both had unsustainable success during the Carnesecca and Ray Meyer eras. They were lucky enough to have top notch coaches at reasonable cost, something that would never happen today. The Garden, when no one is in attendance, is not all that compelling of a place to play compared to a packed Rupp, Allen Fieldhouse, Cameron, etc. I'm not even sure the Garden means a damn thing to 18 year old kids these days anyways. Saint Johns got lucky when a local boy decided to stay home (Mullin). DePaul was only good in the post Ray Meyer era when a few local kids (Q. Richardson, B. Simmons, L. Williams) decided to stay home. This is also unsustainable considering the top players in these cities will be courted by schools with much better programs, facilities, etc. They're schools in major league cities where no one gives a damn about them for the most part. Yes, they are in locations where good basketball talent resides, but the best players in those cities are leaving when Kentucky, Duke, KU, etc. come calling. What's left is not as great as people might presume (does the name Jevon Thomas ring a bell?). In the end, DePaul and Saint Johns are harder to win at then people tend to believe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2015, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on April 01, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 01, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 01, 2015, 07:04:58 AM
St. Johns is the NYC version of DePaul.
Yes, but their failure for success is much worse. They've been in a better conference longer and play their home games in the Garden. The post-Carnesecca era has been a nightmare.

St. John's and DePaul both had unsustainable success during the Carnesecca and Ray Meyer eras. They were lucky enough to have top notch coaches at reasonable cost, something that would never happen today. The Garden, when no one is in attendance, is not all that compelling of a place to play compared to a packed Rupp, Allen Fieldhouse, Cameron, etc. I'm not even sure the Garden means a damn thing to 18 year old kids these days anyways. Saint Johns got lucky when a local boy decided to stay home (Mullin). DePaul was only good in the post Ray Meyer era when a few local kids (Q. Richardson, B. Simmons, L. Williams) decided to stay home. This is also unsustainable considering the top players in these cities will be courted by schools with much better programs, facilities, etc. They're schools in major league cities where no one gives a damn about them for the most part. Yes, they are in locations where good basketball talent resides, but the best players in those cities are leaving when Kentucky, Duke, KU, etc. come calling. What's left is not as great as people might presume (does the name Jevon Thomas ring a bell?). In the end, DePaul and Saint Johns are harder to win at then people tend to believe.

That's a lot of block text. St. John's have an on campus gym they play their home games in, Carnseca Court.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2015, 09:19:32 PM
This year they split their home games about 50/50.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/stjo-m-baskbl-sched.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Rece Davis @ESPN_ReceDavis
Gregg Marshall has reached a deal to stay at Wichita State a source tells me tonight. Won't visit Alabama this week as previously planned.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
I'm guessing Texas didn't reach out to him for whatever reason, because staying at Wichita over Texas would be losery IMO
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 09:46:24 PM
It's too late in the day for April's fools jokes !
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 01, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
If true, wow.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
I'm guessing Texas didn't reach out to him for whatever reason, because staying at Wichita over Texas would be losery IMO

Texas AD didn't like Marshall as a person after their meeting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 01, 2015, 10:02:30 PM
 :Take the Bait: no
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
I'm guessing Texas didn't reach out to him for whatever reason, because staying at Wichita over Texas would be losery IMO
Where did you get this? I haven't seen any reports they even met.

Texas AD didn't like Marshall as a person after their meeting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Rece Davis @ESPN_ReceDavis
Gregg Marshall has reached a deal to stay at Wichita State a source tells me tonight. Won't visit Alabama this week as previously planned.

The article that tweet is referencing says wichita locked him up for 3.3 mill a year for 7 years.  Dayum.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2015, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Rece Davis @ESPN_ReceDavis
Gregg Marshall has reached a deal to stay at Wichita State a source tells me tonight. Won't visit Alabama this week as previously planned.

The article that tweet is referencing says wichita locked him up for 3.3 mill a year for 7 years.  Dayum.
Holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Rece Davis @ESPN_ReceDavis
Gregg Marshall has reached a deal to stay at Wichita State a source tells me tonight. Won't visit Alabama this week as previously planned.

The article that tweet is referencing says wichita locked him up for 3.3 mill a year for 7 years.  Dayum.
Rolling and I would bet he got all the leverage on the buyout. Basically if crap hits the fan at WSU they won't be able to fire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on April 01, 2015, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 01, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Rece Davis @ESPN_ReceDavis
Gregg Marshall has reached a deal to stay at Wichita State a source tells me tonight. Won't visit Alabama this week as previously planned.

The article that tweet is referencing says wichita locked him up for 3.3 mill a year for 7 years.  Dayum.
Rolling and I would bet he got all the leverage on the buyout. Basically if crap hits the fan at WSU they won't be able to fire him.

Is that the case with most successful coaches :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
Marshall staying at Wichita is boring AF.  It does keep the door open for Jeff Van Gundy @ texas Tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: theymightbegiants on April 01, 2015, 10:48:14 PM
From reading the VCU board they believe Marshall sets a good example.  I highly doubt he becomes the norm and he may yet move when a job he actually wants comes open. I get the impression VCU thinks 2M+ keeps the longhorn away and I personally hope they are right.  It's a little embarrassing WSU has a higher commitment to winning than us IMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 01, 2015, 11:01:36 PM
Isn't Shaka to UT, like, already old news???
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/583660403097477123

Kind of a strange situation. Jans was Marshall's top assistant at WSU before taking the BG job last year. BG administration is citing "public misconduct" as the reason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/583660403097477123

Kind of a strange situation. Jans was Marshall's top assistant at WSU before taking the BG job last year. BG administration is citing "public misconduct" as the reason.

Yeah, it must have been pretty bad, they had their best season since 2002 this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cas4ksu on April 02, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Beating some kid up at a bar? Maybe getting a little frisky with some laaaaaadddddieees?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/583687161435795457

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 02, 2015, 12:56:18 PM
My guess is Shaka would rather have Florida than Texas
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2015, 12:59:21 PM
my guess is that oscar to florida is a lock
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 02, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
we may be days away from a Texas-Bama bidding war for Underwood
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2015, 01:05:00 PM

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
the thing is we're still a ways from NBA jobs opening up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Could totally see Frank Campaign his ass off for the Florida Job. Would be cool to see Matt Figger get promoted at USCjr.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
frank could have made a KSU->UF jump but he sure as crap isn't making that jump from USC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 02, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
the thing is we're still a ways from NBA jobs opening up
Orlando has been open for awhile, the Chicago thing as well

Donovan did just sign a 1 year extension yesterday fwiw but his kid that was on the team this year is a Sr  :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 02, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/583660403097477123

Kind of a strange situation. Jans was Marshall's top assistant at WSU before taking the BG job last year. BG administration is citing "public misconduct" as the reason.

Yeah, it must have been pretty bad, they had their best season since 2002 this year.

Word emanating from Twin Peaks that Jans is a GOOD person.

https://twitter.com/JasonKingBR/status/583664841606373377
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on April 02, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
the thing is we're still a ways from NBA jobs opening up
Orlando has been open for awhile, the Chicago thing as well

Donovan did just sign a 1 year extension yesterday fwiw but his kid that was on the team this year is a Sr  :confused:

Denver also has a coaching vacancy right now. The regular season ends in 2 weeks, so not that far away.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 02, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 02, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/583660403097477123

Kind of a strange situation. Jans was Marshall's top assistant at WSU before taking the BG job last year. BG administration is citing "public misconduct" as the reason.

Yeah, it must have been pretty bad, they had their best season since 2002 this year.

Word emanating from Twin Peaks that Jans is a GOOD person.

https://twitter.com/JasonKingBR/status/583664841606373377

Jason King is heading fast towards full blown mid life crisis. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 02, 2015, 03:00:37 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 02, 2015, 12:59:21 PM
my guess is that oscar to florida is a lock

Rumor has it (don't shoot the messenger here) that oscar's family likes to vacation in Florida.  Could be some legs to this...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 05:24:47 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 02, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 02, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 02, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/583660403097477123

Kind of a strange situation. Jans was Marshall's top assistant at WSU before taking the BG job last year. BG administration is citing "public misconduct" as the reason.

Yeah, it must have been pretty bad, they had their best season since 2002 this year.

Word emanating from Twin Peaks that Jans is a GOOD person.

https://twitter.com/JasonKingBR/status/583664841606373377

Jason King is heading fast towards full blown mid life crisis. Can't wait.

Of course Jason King is supporting him...

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2015, 05:45:12 PM
So he will be at Wichita as assistant coach now since the other guy left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2015, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 02, 2015, 05:45:12 PM
So he will be at Wichita as assistant coach now since the other guy left.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/field-house-wichita

:runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2015, 06:21:49 PM

Bowling Green NEEDS oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Missouriscribe on April 02, 2015, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Could totally see Frank Campaign his ass off for the Florida Job. Would be cool to see Matt Figger get promoted at USCjr.

Hopefully he comes off more smoothly than he dui during his bid for the Miami opening a few years back.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/583769603492470784

Almost official.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 02, 2015, 06:30:51 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
Shaka can recruit, I think it might be his best asset. He single handily is going raise the talent level in the big 12. Texas landing the elite kids just means more second tier kid for other Big 12 schools. Alvin is going to have to earn his keep.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
I'm convinced you are a troll now. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2015, 06:58:24 PM
how about that beak on shaka, huh?  i mean, good grief man, see a plastic surgeon and get that thing trimmed down a few sizes.  you can afford it now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
Shaka to Texas is pretty cool.  #bruce4vcu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2015, 11:00:13 PM

VCU NEEDS oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 02, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
I'm really hoping that oscar's exit from KSU involves some kind of Tipping Point scenario where this blog creates a movement so powerful that it convinces a school, who had no intention of even considering oscar Weber for their opening, to offer him more money than he currently makes at Powercats University.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 11:13:31 PM
https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/583842182068621312
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2015, 11:30:19 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 02, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
I'm really hoping that oscar's exit from KSU involves some kind of Tipping Point scenario where this blog creates a movement so powerful that it convinces a school, who had no intention of even considering oscar Weber for their opening, to offer him more money than he currently makes at Powercats University.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 02, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
oscar would be a great fit at Alabama. Win-win-win if you ask me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 02, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
oscar would be a great fit at Alabama. Win-win-win if you ask me.
Richard Pitino taking Alabama job could lead to a futile Minnesota coaching search and Weber trying to get closer to home.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2015, 02:15:43 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 02, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 02, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
oscar would be a great fit at Alabama. Win-win-win if you ask me.
Richard Pitino taking Alabama job could lead to a futile Minnesota coaching search and Weber trying to get closer to home.

 :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 05, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
Avery Johnson is taking the Bama job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2015, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 05, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
Avery Johnson is taking the Bama job.
They obviously got mushed a lot, but I like the hire. I like any hire that is different.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 05, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
Man, they're really trying hard to be good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
avery johnson is a great hire for alabama imo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 07, 2015, 11:58:27 AM
https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/585486108940771332
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:04:53 PM

Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
avery johnson is a great hire for alabama imo

Not when you factor in the way he talks. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 08, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/basketball/small-plane-returning-from-ncaa-title-game-crashes-killing-7-including-illinois-state-coach/article23829643/?click=sf_globefb
Indiana Illinois State looking for a new Associate Head Coach and Deputy Athletics Director  :frown:

and luked!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:23:57 AM
nice scoop ednluke
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2015, 11:24:29 AM
Also, not Indiana State. IIrc
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 08, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:23:57 AM
nice scoop ednluke
I challenge your luking.  Searched for Illinois State, Illinois St, Plane Crash didn't see it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 08, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:23:57 AM
nice scoop ednluke
I challenge your luking.  Searched for Illinois State, Illinois St, Plane Crash didn't see it.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=842.6050

also you were an hour late on the nigel tweet as well. get better every day
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on April 08, 2015, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: ednksu on April 08, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:23:57 AM
nice scoop ednluke
I challenge your luking.  Searched for Illinois State, Illinois St, Plane Crash didn't see it.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=842.6050

also you were an hour late on the nigel tweet as well. get better every day

An unsearchable tweet in a unrelated thread  :jerk:

Oh no, I didn't go back enough pages and I only went back an hour instead of an hour and 10 minutes, boo rough ridin' hoo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 08, 2015, 11:44:43 AM
hey man dont get mad at me for being right. thats very  :powerespect:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 09, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/586283557066317825
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 09, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
They must've really wanted a Duke guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 12, 2015, 07:17:32 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:04:53 PM

Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
avery johnson is a great hire for alabama imo

Not when you factor in the way he talks.

I'm having a hard time seeing Avery Johnson being successful at Bama. Someone convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 12, 2015, 01:21:10 PM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on April 12, 2015, 07:17:32 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:04:53 PM

Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
avery johnson is a great hire for alabama imo

Not when you factor in the way he talks.

I'm having a hard time seeing Avery Johnson being successful at Bama. Someone convince me otherwise.
He has really struggled since the 1st round of the '07 playoffs. Never really recovered from that loss to GS.

I also question how he'll handle recruiting since he seems like a weird guy (mostly his voice).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 12, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 12, 2015, 01:21:10 PM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on April 12, 2015, 07:17:32 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:04:53 PM

Quote from: steve dave on April 06, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
avery johnson is a great hire for alabama imo

Not when you factor in the way he talks.

I'm having a hard time seeing Avery Johnson being successful at Bama. Someone convince me otherwise.
He has really struggled since the 1st round of the '07 playoffs. Never really recovered from that loss to GS.

I also question how he'll handle recruiting since he seems like a weird guy (mostly his voice).

I'd love to play for Avery Johnson even more so as an eighteen year old. I'd imagine I'd love him even more if I was a godfearing southerner. I also have no problem with his accent as with most people.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 12, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Always enjoyed Johnson's voice and personality on air. Still a bit of a head scratcher for a P5 college hire imo.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 12, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Avery Johnson vs. oscar Pearl


wow   :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 12, 2015, 08:18:55 PM

Quote from: Winters on April 12, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Avery Johnson vs. oscar Pearl


wow   :eek:

Do they have a name for the basketball games?  Iron court? :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 12, 2015, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: nicname on April 12, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Always enjoyed Johnson's voice and personality on air. Still a bit of a head scratcher for a P5 college hire imo.

They hired AVERY Johnson... Not GUS.

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 12, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 12:32:41 PM
OKC Thunder available..... Come on Self......
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 22, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2015, 12:38:45 PM
Ollie already agreed to it or they wouldn't have fired Brooks. Not to mention Durant likes Ollie and this move is 100% about getting Durant to stay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 22, 2015, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2015, 12:38:45 PM
Ollie already agreed to it or they wouldn't have fired Brooks. Not to mention Durant likes Ollie and this move is 100% about getting Durant to stay.

quiet
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:44:23 PM
Ollie is a great fit for OKC. He played like 100 years in the NBA. Self would be about my 10th option because he'd probably run off Durant next summer. He's really good at holding back talent...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Serious question... Who is the best NBA player that Self has coached?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sunny_cat on April 22, 2015, 12:52:37 PM
Deron Williams
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 22, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
Brooks needed to go and they wouldn't be able to make a change next year with KD in free agency and a staunch defender of Brooks.  OKC has been successful but never actually close to winning a title.  Self, Ollie, and Mark Jackson could get a long look.  Ollie gave a non-denial denial already.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 22, 2015, 01:31:11 PM
They're bringing up Donovan again too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Serious question... Who is the best NBA player that Self has coached?

Andrew Wiggins
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Serious question... Who is the best NBA player that Self has coached?

Andrew Wiggins
And how well did Self coach Andy last year? Would you say he really tapped into his potential? I wouldn't.

OKC would be insane to hire Self to handle Durant and Westbrook.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2015, 01:43:26 PM
Self won't have to develop players as much as a college coach does. His biggest task would be getting players to buy in and play together, which he's been pretty good at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Serious question... Who is the best NBA player that Self has coached?

Andrew Wiggins
And how well did Self coach Andy last year? Would you say he really tapped into his potential? I wouldn't.

OKC would be insane to hire Self to handle Durant and Westbrook.

you'd be insane to walk around with a dumb face but you do it all day everyday
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 22, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Serious question... Who is the best NBA player that Self has coached?

Andrew Wiggins
And how well did Self coach Andy last year? Would you say he really tapped into his potential? I wouldn't.

OKC would be insane to hire Self to handle Durant and Westbrook.

you'd be insane to walk around with a dumb face but you do it all day everyday
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.desktopwallpapers4.me%2Fmedia%2Fthumbs_400x250%2F2%2F12118.jpg&hash=ed8c9a5348a258fe5ef484e94efa583f4fb676ab)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 29, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
The Thunder are making a hard push for Donovan. If that job opens up a lot of dominoes could fall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 29, 2015, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 29, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
The Thunder are making a hard push for Donovan. If that job opens up a lot of dominoes could fall.

The Donovan chase should be interesting, given he flirted with the Magic and basically reneged on a contract, I have to think teams will be somewhat cautious. I don't know if he'd be all that great at the pro level anyway. More guesstimation than anything. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 29, 2015, 11:55:20 AM
He's coached a lot of successful pros (Noah, Miller, Horford, Beal, etc) and has had a lot of tourney success, but my gut tells me this won't work well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 29, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
The Thunder are making a hard push for Donovan. If that job opens up a lot of dominoes could fall.
code for oscar to florida?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on April 29, 2015, 03:21:29 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on April 29, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
The Thunder are making a hard push for Donovan. If that job opens up a lot of dominoes could fall.
code for oscar to florida?

Lol at the thought of this ever happening. Especially so late in the process.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed
oscar going to SEC. SEC would be blessed by his presence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 29, 2015, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed

Lawn mowing is 12 months a year down there.  Is it possible to keep that up during the season?  My gut tells me no.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 29, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
Florida needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 06:56:41 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 29, 2015, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed

Lawn mowing is 12 months a year down there.  Is it possible to keep that up during the season?  My gut tells me no.
maybe not possible upon his arrival.  but if he makes a commitment to work hard and get better, he'll be mowing lawns year round in no time
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 29, 2015, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 06:56:41 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 29, 2015, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed

Lawn mowing is 12 months a year down there.  Is it possible to keep that up during the season?  My gut tells me no.
maybe not possible upon his arrival.  but if he makes a commitment to work hard and get better, he'll be mowing lawns year round in no time

He'll be fine.  The key is loading up with palm trees and whatnot and not worrying so much about the grass. 

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6219-SW-93rd-Ave-Gainesville-FL-32608/42725243_zpid/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on April 29, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
Quote from: Trim on April 29, 2015, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 06:56:41 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 29, 2015, 05:36:45 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 29, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on April 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Looks like billy donovan is probably gonna go to Thunder. Sam Presti likes him and Durant has shown interest.

more importantly, oscar has indicated via private channels, that he is willing to coach at florida until the waters are calmed

Lawn mowing is 12 months a year down there.  Is it possible to keep that up during the season?  My gut tells me no.
maybe not possible upon his arrival.  but if he makes a commitment to work hard and get better, he'll be mowing lawns year round in no time

He'll be fine.  The key is loading up with palm trees and whatnot and not worrying so much about the grass. 

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6219-SW-93rd-Ave-Gainesville-FL-32608/42725243_zpid/

oscar is willing to go the extra mile. Overseed with Rye and let it rain !
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 30, 2015, 11:53:17 AM
I'm excited because I've always wondered what kind of coach Florida could lure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Does Florida give Frank a call?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2015, 11:58:48 AM
Imagine if Frank was still killing it here. We'd be really worried right about now, but because he left and he kinda sucks now, I bet Florida doesn't pick up the phone.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2015, 12:03:09 PM
It was in everyone's best interest for him to stay, but whatevs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2015, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 30, 2015, 12:03:09 PM
It was in everyone's best interest for him to stay, but whatevs.
Oh yeah, I agree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
I'd much rather be worrying about our coach leaving than wishing he would leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on May 01, 2015, 03:43:00 AM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
I'd much rather be worrying about our coach leaving than wishing he would leave.
Yes.
Knowing that Weber isn't getting a phone call re: UF is worse than wondering if he might get a phone call from UF.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on May 01, 2015, 09:39:06 AM
Has Mike Evans ever been considered for a coaching search? That is if one is in our future?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2015, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: slobber on May 01, 2015, 03:43:00 AM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
I'd much rather be worrying about our coach leaving than wishing he would leave.
Yes.
Knowing that Weber isn't getting a phone call re: UF is worse than wondering if he might get a phone call from UF.


Gonna win 'em all!
Well duh. It's just interesting to think about.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on June 29, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
http://fox6now.com/2015/06/29/university-of-wisconsin-basketball-coach-bo-ryan-to-retire-after-next-season/ (http://fox6now.com/2015/06/29/university-of-wisconsin-basketball-coach-bo-ryan-to-retire-after-next-season/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on June 29, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
oscar would be perfect for Wiscy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on June 29, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: CNS on June 29, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
oscar would be perfect for Wiscy.

Wisconsin needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2015, 09:34:08 AM
oscar turned down Marquette. He probably was holding out for this.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on June 30, 2015, 10:47:14 AM
Bo may have ruined it for oscar with last season, but other than that, that fanbase wants 50pt games.  They want Bruceketball. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on June 30, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
I mean, they could probably just hire oscar, keep it quiet, and no one would even notice something changed until year two or so.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2015, 10:54:54 AM
Did you guys know that Milwaukee, WI is the chicken nuggets capital of the world?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2015, 11:41:25 PM
New crap has come to light dude
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on June 30, 2015, 11:57:15 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 14, 2016, 03:35:56 PM
Oklahoma State, TCU, and Stanford. Any others?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 14, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
Stanford needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 14, 2016, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 14, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
Stanford needs oscar Weber.

Perfect fit.  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2016, 09:06:12 PM
Tulane. Go get it Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 16, 2016, 03:58:29 PM
 :runaway:

Quote from: some guy on gpc
I heard from a guy, who heard (indirectly) from a connected basketball guy(not a K-State guy), who heard from a connected OU guy, that K-State has been visiting with Steve Henson.

The above statement is 100% true. This is 100% what I was told. I have absolutely no idea what it means. I'm just happy I heard anything that gives me a glimmer of hope that oscar still may be shown the door. This is how desparate I am. I don't even want Steve Henson, but I'd take him over oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2016, 04:01:55 PM
Hey, bad person! Look in the firebrucethread first!  :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 16, 2016, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 16, 2016, 04:01:55 PM
Hey, bad person! Look in the firebrucethread first!  :curse:

yeah i even thought about that but whatever
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 16, 2016, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 16, 2016, 03:58:29 PM
:runaway:

Quote from: some guy on gpc
I heard from a guy, who heard (indirectly) from a connected basketball guy(not a K-State guy), who heard from a connected OU guy, that K-State has been visiting with Steve Henson.

The above statement is 100% true. This is 100% what I was told. I have absolutely no idea what it means. I'm just happy I heard anything that gives me a glimmer of hope that oscar still may be shown the door. This is how desparate I am. I don't even want Steve Henson, but I'd take him over oscar.

Scuba Steve, the poster not the coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: RickRampus on March 17, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
steve has not been approached by ksu and isn't interested as of right now. source: close family member of steve's
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2016, 09:10:17 AM
IN YOUR FACE CLAMS!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 17, 2016, 10:25:30 AM
AS OF RIGHT NOW

i think we all know what that means
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: RickRampus on March 17, 2016, 12:34:52 PM
I guess there was a little bit of smoke coming from the Henson camp when Frank left, but he never got a meeting in the Hotel Room of Doom
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2016, 03:25:30 PM

Quote from: RickRampus on March 17, 2016, 12:34:52 PM
I guess there was a little bit of smoke coming from the Henson camp when Frank left, but he never got a meeting in the Hotel Room of Doom


I will bet you a zillion dollars that ALL of that smoke is coming from Henson himself and his family/cronies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2016, 03:26:05 PM
...as in "not reciprocated by anyone at KSU."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: RickRampus on March 17, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
I do not disagree

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
I've always said Pete is the smartest and best poster on this board
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 17, 2016, 08:56:05 PM
Oscar is not leaving, better chance of a new football coach this September than new basketball guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 18, 2016, 05:44:01 AM

Quote from: ELL3 on March 17, 2016, 08:56:05 PM
Oscar is not leaving, better chance of a new football coach this September than new basketball guy

Interesting if true


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 18, 2016, 07:39:08 AM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 17, 2016, 08:56:05 PM
Oscar is not leaving, better chance of a new football coach this September than new basketball guy

This. It's more likely that Snyder says a late goodbye and puts KSU in a position to probably give Sean a one year interim gig, kind of like what Bo Ryan did at Wisconsin this year to give his asst. a shot. oscar is back! Embrace him! Love him! Put up with him!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 18, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Nope. I can't . I won't
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2016, 08:14:56 PM
This is going to be a pretty great year.  Full Saturdays to do whatevs I want.  No reason to worry about missing any kind of game what so ever.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 18, 2016, 08:31:21 PM
Nobody is talking to Steve short of congratulating him on a good year. Also, shouldn't there have been some firings by now?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 18, 2016, 11:58:25 PM
This may be a boring thread this year. Not many coaches on the hot seat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 12:00:57 AM
Someone at a high profile job will leave for the NBA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 19, 2016, 12:52:16 AM
Travis is officially gone.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15010168/travis-ford-oklahoma-state-cowboys-part-ways
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 01:24:42 AM
If Oklahoma State hires Underwood I'm done with college sports.  I'll never watch another kstate game again. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 01:36:35 AM
I'd like for one of these to happen:

1) Miami wins it all, Larranaga decides to go out on top, Frank gets that job and SCAR brings back Brad who finishes their turnaround.

2) Brad goes to OSU or TCU and when they play in the fOOD next year, it's the only game with over 10K fans and the majority are actively rooting for Brad's team.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 19, 2016, 01:36:35 AM
I'd like for one of these to happen:

1) Miami wins it all, Larranaga decides to go out on top, Frank gets that job and SCAR brings back Brad who finishes their turnaround.

2) Brad goes to OSU or TCU and when they play in the fOOD next year, it's the only game with over 10K fans and the majority are actively rooting for Brad's team.

I hope he goes to Oklahoma State, because I think he'll have more success there than at TCU.  However, as long as he is in the conference and serves as a constant reminder to Kansas State fans, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
The current edition of the eye on in college basketball indirectly offers two glances of light for us not losing our shot at Brad
1. They talked about two very recent cases of a power 5 AD firing a coach after they secured their target; Stan Heath at Arkansas and Rick Ray at Mississippi State. If I remember correctly Ray was fired after the final four.
2. The juicier news is that apparently TCU and OSU are about to go on a bidding war for Buzz Williams, who if this news is out there his people are clearly floating the possibility. It's also possible that Brad is OSU's third choice behind the UALR coach, the Oklahoma schools have a fairly extensive history of looking to Arkansas for coaches.

I hadn't really thought about it until I heard this but right now St. Louis is the second best opening right now. The best case scenario for us is for Buzz to get the OSU job, I think that is the only job currently open that we can't get Brad from next year or in 2018. If oscar doesn't get fired, ideally Currie leaves this summer then oscar gets gassed next. With a new AD oscar could get fired next year even if he makes the tournament and doesn't win a game while there.

Here's the podcast info, the coaching stuff is 21:40-34:00

Quote
Gary Parrish, Chip Patterson and Sam Vecenie use this episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast to discuss Providence's win over USC, UALR's win over Purdue, the terrible tone some reporter used to ask Baylor's Taurean Prince a stupid question, and the coaching carousel (and how Stephen F. Austin's Brad Underwood might fit into). Beyond that, they discussed the way the committee seeds teams. And they previewed Kentucky-Indiana, of course.

* Duration: 56:46, Played

* Published: 3/18/16 11:45:14 AM

* Episode Download Link (52 MB): http://cstvpodcast.cstv.com.edgesuite.net/mensbasketball0708/031816_mbb.mp3

* Episode Feed: CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast - http://podcasts.cstv.com/feeds/mensbasketball.xml
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 10:56:28 AM
I think the only way we realistically get rid of oscar in the next 2 years, regardless of whether or not this is a tournament team, is if a collection of donors at the Ice/Vanier/Edgerley level went to Currie and said that all of the money fueling Currie's building projects is frozen until they remove Weber and replace him with Underwood.  And it will specifically need to be Underwood because Currie can easily dismiss Steve Henson, or some non-affiliated coach like Tad Boyle, because oscar will always be "right there" and "this close" to turning that corner again.  Brad's success, specifically, and very public affections towards Kansas State, and the fact that he was here and wanting the job four years ago, is a huge black eye on Currie's tenure.

It's going to take that level of donor effort, in my opinion, to remove Weber while we still have a shot at Brad.  I think it's highly likely we'll see some form of improvement with increased experience and physical maturity.  So we're going to be an NCAA bubble team for the next 2-3 years.

And while I don't think Currie will screw around with football, due to how it's the engine that fuels all of his goals, I think his ego will get the best of him in basketball because it's the one area where he's heavily come under fire.  The only way you'll overcome what I believe will be an irrational desire to stick with Weber, is for those folks that give him millions to say enough is enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

I agree. Currie may be stubborn because this is his hire, but he's not that stupid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

#teamMIR*

*especially when it comes to this and the Shockers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.
don't underestimate the tactics the AD will go thru to prop up attendance - Taco John ticket drops are coming
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

I'm guessing a slightly better team will lead to slightly better attendance. But were actual ticket sales a problem this year? Attendance listed for every conference game was 11k+. (I'm guessing that is paid attendance, really all that matters). IMO they'd have to be A LOT worse to make much of a dent in that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

absolutely it would be enough. Fans would be thrilled.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

absolutely it would be enough. Fans would be thrilled.

Not this fan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:46:57 AM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.
don't underestimate the tactics the AD will go thru to prop up attendance - Taco John ticket drops are coming

That is their job, as much as we want to see a 1/3 full building, the AD can't have that happen.

Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

I'm guessing a slightly better team will lead to slightly better attendance. But were actual ticket sales a problem this year? Attendance listed for every conference game was 11k+. (I'm guessing that is paid attendance, really all that matters). IMO they'd have to be A LOT worse to make much of a dent in that.

We're a long long long away from our building looking like Gallaher-Iba, ticket revenue will tell the story.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

oscar won't have a season like this one next year. The team will be a little better and that will seriously be enough.

I disagree on the notion that slightly better will be enough. I guess we'll see what the attendance looks like but if fans aren't buying in oscar won't be kept.

What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

A Texas Tech type of season isn't a slight improvement. They comfortably made the tournament even after losing to one of the five worst Big 12 teams ever, we didn't even make the NIT. A Tech type season is a slight improvement if you believe the oscar 5 possession talking point. This season was very similar to Wooly's last season, Huggs had a huge improvement and made the NIT. We will see ultimately but I don't think that 8-10 in the conference will get you in the tournament next year. The conference is obviously losing a ton of talent, I am not sure yet if the conference RPI and kenpom the last couple of years is more attributable to the talent in it or because of the round robin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 12:00:30 PM
I would say it is the round robin and the bottom feeders (TT, TCU & KSU) getting the noncon schedulemakers on their side
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

I agree with this.

I think the point about Tech is basicallybeing a bubble team, though to be fair Tech did go on a nice run to put themselves clearly on the right side of the bubble. Probably a more realistic comparison would be a Vandy or Michigan type season and be one of the last 4 teams in the field.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
And perception is all that matters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
And perception is all that matters.

You're making assumptions about Currie's perception to fit your own narrative. We have no idea how this season is perceived by oscar's bosses. There is simply no way the administration has their fingers stuck in their ears. The grumbling has gone far beyond a couple dozen of annoying goEMAW posters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2016, 12:37:08 PM
Rutgers hired the Stony Point or whatevs guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

Some believe this, sure. But I don't think its majority or even 50% right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:38:59 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
And perception is all that matters.

You're making assumptions about Currie's perception to fit your own narrative. We have no idea how this season is perceived by oscar's bosses. There is simply no way the administration has their fingers stuck in their ears. The grumbling has gone far beyond a couple dozen of annoying goEMAW posters.

I'm assuming Currie doesn't care about how the basketball team performs as long as there is enough revenue and no NCAA headaches. The perception I'm referring to is that of the fans buying tickets. I think a lot of that grumbling goes away if next we have a bubble team next year. If fans think we're improving and therefore buying tickets, Weber is indefinitely safe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ptolemy on March 19, 2016, 01:05:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.
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The only way that "many" saw this year as improvement was if "many" are oscar Weber fans and make excuses. Nobody with an objective eye can see a far worse conference record as an improvement, especially with THIS Big 12. Season ticket sales will show it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:10:19 PM
kenpom is objective.  kstate unambiguously performed better in 2016 than 2015.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:10:19 PM
kenpom is objective.  kstate unambiguously performed better in 2016 than 2015.

I guess there is value in not having the bad losses that we had last year, but last year was also much better against quality opponents.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
I guess there is value in not having the bad losses that we had last year, but last year was also much better against quality opponents.

they were very different years.  you could devise a system that overweights performance against higher quality opponents and it would give you different numbers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Kenpom performance is irrelevant to AD's, season ticket holders, and selection committees
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

I agree. Currie may be stubborn because this is his hire, but he's not that stupid.

I've said, many times, that Currie is first and foremost a CFO.  His gift, and what's gotten him the vast majority of his goodwill here is how well he handles the department, financially.

I went and looked at the available Equity in Athletics reports that are out on the KSU site.  We are consistently running a profit of about $2.2-2.6 million the majority of years, even going back to Frank.  I'm not sure what made Frank's last year so much different (maybe BTF funds getting put into this number...), but regardless of how we monkey with the prices, the margin is roughly the same.

2014-2015: ~$2.36 million
2013-2014: ~$2.65 million
2012-2013: ~$2.22 million
2011-2012: ~$4.76 million
2010-2011: ~$2.59 million

It's been two years since oscar has been extended, so he has three years left on his deal. The last copy of the contract that I saw said we had to pay him $2.5 million to terminate his deal, or if the sum total of his remaining contract is less, that's what we owe.  Since he'll make around $2.2 million there at the end of his deal, we're out $2+ million, regardless. 

Considering that the margins have mostly been static, even going back to Pullen's last year, to make sense, financially, we'd have to see a $500k per year increase in margin for five years before it made financial sense to get rid of oscar.  And, historically, we just haven't seen that kind of positive YOY growth outside that one year, which is kind of an anomaly.

This is why Currie can stubbornly hold onto him, especially if we're "right there".  It will be enough to keep the fans buying tickets at the point where he can realistically sit behind the financial justification.  In fact, even if a number of donors want to come to him and complain, he can just say that the $2.5 million is a big set back to the East Side renovations, or a redesign of the Bramlage concourse, etc.

Now, as I said, if the big donors that are writing those multi-million dollar checks get together and say THAT pool of funds is going to get impacted if he doesn't make a move on oscar, he will have to move.  But historically, we've found ways to have a consistent profit margin in basketball, and manipulating ticket prices to inflate attendance will allow Currie to stand behind his coach as long as he keeps expenses in check.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

I agree. Currie may be stubborn because this is his hire, but he's not that stupid.

I've said, many times, that Currie is first and foremost a CFO.  His gift, and what's gotten him the vast majority of his goodwill here is how well he handles the department, financially.

I went and looked at the available Equity in Athletics reports that are out on the KSU site.  We are consistently running a profit of about $2.2-2.6 million the majority of years, even going back to Frank.  I'm not sure what made Frank's last year so much different (maybe BTF funds getting put into this number...), but regardless of how we monkey with the prices, the margin is roughly the same.

2014-2015: ~$2.36 million
2013-2014: ~$2.65 million
2012-2013: ~$2.22 million
2011-2012: ~$4.76 million
2010-2011: ~$2.59 million

It's been two years since oscar has been extended, so he has three years left on his deal. The last copy of the contract that I saw said we had to pay him $2.5 million to terminate his deal, or if the sum total of his remaining contract is less, that's what we owe.  Since he'll make around $2.2 million there at the end of his deal, we're out $2+ million, regardless. 

Considering that the margins have mostly been static, even going back to Pullen's last year, to make sense, financially, we'd have to see a $500k per year increase in margin for five years before it made financial sense to get rid of oscar.  And, historically, we just haven't seen that kind of positive YOY growth outside that one year, which is kind of an anomaly.

This is why Currie can stubbornly hold onto him, especially if we're "right there".  It will be enough to keep the fans buying tickets at the point where he can realistically sit behind the financial justification.  In fact, even if a number of donors want to come to him and complain, he can just say that the $2.5 million is a big set back to the East Side renovations, or a redesign of the Bramlage concourse, etc.

Now, as I said, if the big donors that are writing those multi-million dollar checks get together and say THAT pool of funds is going to get impacted if he doesn't make a move on oscar, he will have to move.  But historically, we've found ways to have a consistent profit margin in basketball, and manipulating ticket prices to inflate attendance will allow Currie to stand behind his coach as long as he keeps expenses in check.





Good points.

FTR, as BBB as I've been, I realize its pretty moot at this point. oscar is back next year and its probable he does well enough to stay for a while. That said, I've still enjoyed this brief period of BBB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.

weber won't survive a successful big 12 underwood but that point is moot because if seeing a successful big 12 underwood is what gets oscar canned, then Currie is actually not smart enough.


currie shouldn't have to see a house in ashes to realize a fire might destroy one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:10:19 PM
kenpom is objective.  kstate unambiguously performed better in 2016 than 2015.

Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
I guess there is value in not having the bad losses that we had last year, but last year was also much better against quality opponents.

they were very different years.  you could devise a system that overweights performance against higher quality opponents and it would give you different numbers.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 01:31:49 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.

weber won't survive a successful big 12 underwood but that point is moot because if seeing a successful big 12 underwood is what gets oscar canned, then Currie is actually not smart enough.


currie shouldn't have to see a house in ashes to realize a fire might destroy one.

I still think moving houses is a better option than buying fire insurance at the going rate for Currie.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
if they sell 9k tickets next year instead of 11k, that's $2 million plus.  kstaters might surprise me, but i'd expect underwood driven tickets sales alone would contribute enough revenue to offset weber's buyout.

i don't think budget constraints have any bearing on weber vs underwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.

I agree with this, but I think a lot of us are projecting what we want to happen (which is also logical), and I agree with MC that Currie's main goal in basketball is to have static revenue with limited to no NCAA infractions.  oscar provides these things.

I believe Currie looks at football in a vacuum and everything else is on the periphery.  For basketball and non-revenue sports, he wants them to win enough to either make X amount of dollars or only lose Y amount of dollars, and he doesn't want them to put the rest of his department in jeopardy.

Underwood pressure will have to come from the big money.  Average KSU fans, from the comments of pockets that I've seen on Facebook, Twitter, etc., are fine with oscar because they believe we're right on the doorstep.  And I agree with others that we're likely to see a Texas Tech like year next year, and that's going to give Currie the justification to push forward because that same 10-11k will renew their season tickets to keep our margins in that $2.2-$2.6 million range.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
Either the conference RPI will suck next year and we won't get in because of it, or the conference will be good and we won't get in because we win very few conference games again. The talent we have coming in vs. what we're replacing is not a big enough boost to overcome either of those things. We are losing the only guy on our team that could drive the lane, and he also happened to be our leading scorer. Probably slight improvement from some guys, but Budke is going to be playing significant minutes on this team again next year, because no way that both of those big men from last year (Williams and Maurice) will be contributors on this team, maybe neither of them will be. We just weren't nearly as close as oscar told everyone that we were. Our RPI was 90th, seriously doubt it will jump over 50 spots next year. Guess I could be wrong, but I'm not.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
if they sell 9k tickets next year instead of 11k, that's $2 million plus.  kstaters might surprise me, but i'd expect underwood driven tickets sales alone would contribute enough revenue to offset weber's buyout.

i don't think budget constraints have any bearing on weber vs underwood.

We're returning almost the entire team of 5-heart try hards, including fan favorites DJamer and Wes, a Top 100 recruit, and we had a white kid from St. John on the All-Big 12 freshman team.

Now, I could be wrong, but if I know John Q. Average KSU Fan well enough, I think those things will see a spike in season ticket sales.  I could be surprised as well, but our aggregate fan base seems to care about some weird things.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
You can't possibly think that, you're smarter than that. When most people post that it's because they're trolling. If oscar has another season like this one next year, he's obviously going to get fired. We can't have what OSU has had throughout the Ford era. We cannot afford to be playing conference games in front of 4000 people.

I'll bet every dollar I have that two years from today either Weber or Currie will be gone, odds are heavily in my favor.

I agree. Currie may be stubborn because this is his hire, but he's not that stupid.

I've said, many times, that Currie is first and foremost a CFO.  His gift, and what's gotten him the vast majority of his goodwill here is how well he handles the department, financially.

I went and looked at the available Equity in Athletics reports that are out on the KSU site.  We are consistently running a profit of about $2.2-2.6 million the majority of years, even going back to Frank.  I'm not sure what made Frank's last year so much different (maybe BTF funds getting put into this number...), but regardless of how we monkey with the prices, the margin is roughly the same.

2014-2015: ~$2.36 million
2013-2014: ~$2.65 million
2012-2013: ~$2.22 million
2011-2012: ~$4.76 million
2010-2011: ~$2.59 million

It's been two years since oscar has been extended, so he has three years left on his deal. The last copy of the contract that I saw said we had to pay him $2.5 million to terminate his deal, or if the sum total of his remaining contract is less, that's what we owe.  Since he'll make around $2.2 million there at the end of his deal, we're out $2+ million, regardless. 

Considering that the margins have mostly been static, even going back to Pullen's last year, to make sense, financially, we'd have to see a $500k per year increase in margin for five years before it made financial sense to get rid of oscar.  And, historically, we just haven't seen that kind of positive YOY growth outside that one year, which is kind of an anomaly.

This is why Currie can stubbornly hold onto him, especially if we're "right there".  It will be enough to keep the fans buying tickets at the point where he can realistically sit behind the financial justification.  In fact, even if a number of donors want to come to him and complain, he can just say that the $2.5 million is a big set back to the East Side renovations, or a redesign of the Bramlage concourse, etc.

Now, as I said, if the big donors that are writing those multi-million dollar checks get together and say THAT pool of funds is going to get impacted if he doesn't make a move on oscar, he will have to move.  But historically, we've found ways to have a consistent profit margin in basketball, and manipulating ticket prices to inflate attendance will allow Currie to stand behind his coach as long as he keeps expenses in check.

Incomplete picture though. I'd like to see what revenues and expenditures look like, it's completely possible that the athletic department has a mandate that the basketball program remain at a certain profit margin, that steady profit sure makes it seem that way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 01:22:47 PM
Good points.

FTR, as BBB as I've been, I realize its pretty moot at this point. oscar is back next year and its probable he does well enough to stay for a while. That said, I've still enjoyed this brief period of BBB.

As I've said on BOTC many times, the day we have Brent Venables and Brad Underwood running our programs is the day I'm so happy that I'm running stark naked down Metcalf.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
if they sell 9k tickets next year instead of 11k, that's $2 million plus.  kstaters might surprise me, but i'd expect underwood driven tickets sales alone would contribute enough revenue to offset weber's buyout.

i don't think budget constraints have any bearing on weber vs underwood.

We're returning almost the entire team of 5-heart try hards, including fan favorites DJamer and Wes, a Top 100 recruit, and we had a white kid from St. John on the All-Big 12 freshman team.

Now, I could be wrong, but if I know John Q. Average KSU Fan well enough, I think those things will see a spike in season ticket sales.  I could be surprised as well, but our aggregate fan base seems to care about some weird things.
Well put
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 01:31:49 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.

weber won't survive a successful big 12 underwood but that point is moot because if seeing a successful big 12 underwood is what gets oscar canned, then Currie is actually not smart enough.


currie shouldn't have to see a house in ashes to realize a fire might destroy one.

I still think moving houses is a better option than buying fire insurance at the going rate for Currie.


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I agree, but I am not an incredible dumbass like Currie. It isn't like Brad couldn't come in an win with this "nucleus". But Weber will get next year (and the year after at a minimum) and Brad will leave SFA for OSU or somewhere else and that will be that.

Curtis will not fire oscar until he absolutely has to. And our stupid ass fan base [and major donors] won't demand that until it is too late.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 01:31:49 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
the narrative is no longer confined to kstate's team and their performance.  underwood is placing an enormous amount of pressure on them.  it'll be transitory if he leaves the region, but if he goes to tcu or osu, that pressure will be constant (if he does well).

currie is smart enough to see that too.  weber cannot survive a successful underwood in the big 12.

weber won't survive a successful big 12 underwood but that point is moot because if seeing a successful big 12 underwood is what gets oscar canned, then Currie is actually not smart enough.


currie shouldn't have to see a house in ashes to realize a fire might destroy one.

I still think moving houses is a better option than buying fire insurance at the going rate for Currie.


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Can we go back to my point that Brad may very well be the third or fourth option for OSU? We can absolutely get him from TCU anytime we want.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Incomplete picture though. I'd like to see what revenues and expenditures look like, it's completely possible that the athletic department has a mandate that the basketball program remain at a certain profit margin, that steady profit sure makes it seem that way.

I can try to pull that later tonight, but if the mandate is that we hit "plan" every year, and we can do that with oscar, we'll make a move in two years when we have one year left on his deal and there's no extension in sight. 

I will concede that Currie isn't stupid enough to have a lame duck coach, and it mimimizes the buyout as much as possible.  It also takes this class of Freshmen through their junior year, and if they've stuck around, they're more likely to stay for the new guy as Seniors to bridge the transition.  If they have two years left to play, it probably increases the likelihood that they'd leave.

Two years from now makes the most financial sense with the greatest opportunity to maintain a full roster for the new coach.

Again, I'm not advocating this.  Two years of Weber makes me want to vomit, but if I'm Currie, and my scoreboard is financial, not literal, this is where my head is at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 01:48:46 PM
Let's be realistic, K-State is much more likely to have 2 more years of oscar than to have Brad coach here ever. Like by a lot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
i cannot imagine that they will sell more tickets than this year.  the decline may not be as great as i'd expect, but it is unfathomable that there is an increase.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
Stop it _BBB :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

There is no such thing as the NIT bubble. It is full of teams that ended up on the wrong side of the NCAA tournament bubble and teams who won their crappy conference in the regular season but blew it in the conference tournament. Nobody who gets into the NIT is happy to be there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:56:49 PM


Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

There is no such thing as the NIT bubble. It is full of teams that ended up on the wrong side of the NCAA tournament bubble and teams who won their crappy conference in the regular season but blew it in the conference tournament. Nobody who gets into the NIT is happy to be there.

Perception is all that matters
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 01:57:44 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

There is no such thing as the NIT bubble. It is full of teams that ended up on the wrong side of the NCAA tournament bubble and teams who won their crappy conference in the regular season but blew it in the conference tournament. Nobody who gets into the NIT is happy to be there.

oscar would be if he could get there
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
i cannot imagine that they will sell more tickets than this year.  the decline may not be as great as i'd expect, but it is unfathomable that there is an increase.
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:56:49 PM


Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

There is no such thing as the NIT bubble. It is full of teams that ended up on the wrong side of the NCAA tournament bubble and teams who won their crappy conference in the regular season but blew it in the conference tournament. Nobody who gets into the NIT is happy to be there.

Perception is all that matters

perceived perception
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 02:02:16 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
i cannot imagine that they will sell more tickets than this year.  the decline may not be as great as i'd expect, but it is unfathomable that there is an increase.
Why would you expect a decline?

common sense
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
I like the couple of you talking about Currie's house burning down with him in it.  Figuratively of course.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:07:03 PM
People defend oscar because they feel like people who don't like oscar are Frankites. I think oscar's support is much more the inability to say that they were wrong about Frank. This team was rough ridin' terrible to watch this year. Even folks who say they've got oscar's back will decide they've got better crap to do than watch oscar lick his lips for two hours. I just don't think there's a lot of gungho oscar fans out there. Attendance won't go down a ton, but it will go down noticeably.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 01:57:44 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 11:51:17 AM
Another thing to consider is  Fan is right that Currie isn't stupid, which is why he wouldn't fire a coach showing any improvement in consecutive seasons after letting him blow up the roster and rebuild.

This team did not show any improvement from last season.
It was perceived as improvement by many. Plus a better overall record and NIT bubble.

There is no such thing as the NIT bubble. It is full of teams that ended up on the wrong side of the NCAA tournament bubble and teams who won their crappy conference in the regular season but blew it in the conference tournament. Nobody who gets into the NIT is happy to be there.

oscar would be if he could get there

This is why we never had a chance to get in. There is no better test than asking yourself if your team would be happy with an NIT bid. If the answer is "yes" then they aren't getting in. If it's "no" then they are most likely NIT-bound because if they were going to the NCAA you wouldn't be worried enough to ponder the NIT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 02:16:29 PM
yeah, I think we have reached the bottom on attendance.  OkState is a fan base more accustomed to winning after 15 years of Eddie and we don't have an elite NBA team in KC.  It will take a Ohfer or close to it for us to get back to 4k for a conference home game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.

b.  because the mood of kstate fans on message boards is substantially more critical than it was last year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:18:23 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 19, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
I like the couple of you talking about Currie's house burning down with him in it.  Figuratively of course.

it's not a threat, it's an expression of concern.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
The only people I know that still go are RealMikeT and KK+1.  I'm sure RealMikeT will keep going, KK probably has to, not sure about +1.  But that's at least a 66% retention rate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
There is no better test than asking yourself if your team would be happy with an NIT bid. If the answer is "yes" then they aren't getting in. If it's "no" then they are most likely NIT-bound because if they were going to the NCAA you wouldn't be worried enough to ponder the NIT.

that's a good observation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 02:24:36 PM
I think there will be plenty of fans like canary next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2016, 02:27:39 PM
oscar just needs to win 3 more conference gsmes next year to assure he'll be back for at least two more.   

Honestly all that really needs to happen is a compelling excuse and he's fine.  KSU fans and or AD  have shown themselves more than willing to tolerate mediocre basketball. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:33:59 PM
I don't think oscar will win 8 conference games next year. Counting on two dudes who had season ending injuries (one of whom never played a single minute) and a guy who is still not eligible yet, plus two projects and a backup for Westicles somehow doesn't add up to 8 wins for me, especially when you take away our starting center and leading scorer from last year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
8 wins isn't that hard.  i'd probably put my expectations at 7-11 give or take 2 wins in either direction.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:40:45 PM
why would it be different?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?

There were plenty of Wooly supporters, everybody pretty much generally supported the guy at least for awhile. The arena was rough ridin' barren in spite of that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?
Even if it was, I'm not convinced KSU ticket buyers perceived this season as worse than last.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
they don't have to perceive it as worse.  it's just two poor years vs one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?
Even if it was, I'm not convinced KSU ticket buyers perceived this season as worse than last.

Not the same thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
Cap'n will tell us the truth.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?
Even if it was, I'm not convinced KSU ticket buyers perceived this season as worse than last.

Not the same thing.

yeah, I guess I'm saying many KSU fans who considered 14-15 to be a poor year (bad attitudes and NBA dreams, stoners) are likely to not consider 15-16 to be a poor year (better than expected, kansan on all freshman team, bad injury luck). So the cumulative poor season buildup does not apply.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 03:12:00 PM
i think the conference record will trump those considerations.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 04:28:23 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Why would you expect a decline? I can understand why you might have expected one before this season or after Angel left, but not from this season to next.

a.  because that's what happens when a team has a poor year.  ticket sales reflect the previous year far more than they do predictions for the year the tickets are for.  and successive poor years generates a cumulative effect.
Has this been shown to be true at ksu?
Even if it was, I'm not convinced KSU ticket buyers perceived this season as worse than last.

Not the same thing.

yeah, I guess I'm saying many KSU fans who considered 14-15 to be a poor year (bad attitudes and NBA dreams, stoners) are likely to not consider 15-16 to be a poor year (better than expected, kansan on all freshman team, bad injury luck). So the cumulative poor season buildup does not apply.

I think the playing up of tuck talking points is overplayed. It's very heavy handed to assume people will give oscar credit for Wade when Wade's people have been very vocal with their issues with oscar and the program.

At some point mocking and trolling became legitimate coping mechanisms for people on this site. There are faint signs of support for this coach right now. The thought that only we know what's best for the program and everyone else are blind lemmings is dead.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
I'm not mocking or trolling anyone. I'm just being realistic about what I think is the mindset of Currie and the fanbase as a whole.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
I'm not mocking or trolling anyone. I'm just being realistic about what I think is the mindset of Currie and the fanbase as a whole.
I don't see anything on the web, in the media, or on social media that supports any structured support for oscar Weber within this fan base. The rare, isolated signs of support generally think he needs more time, it's been a very long time since I've seen anyone state that they think oscar is the right coach here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
I'm not mocking or trolling anyone. I'm just being realistic about what I think is the mindset of Currie and the fanbase as a whole.
I don't see anything on the web, in the media, or on social media that supports any structured support for oscar Weber within this fan base. The rare, isolated signs of support generally think he needs more time, it's been a very long time since I've seen anyone state that they think oscar is the right coach here.

Yep, which is why attendance will decline. A confluence of disinterest and apathetic feelings toward oscar. A milkshake that the majority is pretty 'meh' on, and that a passionate minority hates, will indeed not bring many boys to the yard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
oscar is being made a scapegoat.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 04:59:30 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
I'm not mocking or trolling anyone. I'm just being realistic about what I think is the mindset of Currie and the fanbase as a whole.
I don't see anything on the web, in the media, or on social media that supports any structured support for oscar Weber within this fan base. The rare, isolated signs of support generally think he needs more time, it's been a very long time since I've seen anyone state that they think oscar is the right coach here.

Have you seen the posts here about facebook comments on KSU AD posts? Or seen the paid attendance figures in conference play?

Also, columns like this are out there (if you've seen anyone in the media suggest he be fired, please let me know):

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/vahe-gregorian/article59710166.html

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article62158357.html

and this one that basically states why oscar is likely back for at least two more seasons:

http://m.cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-03-10/kevin-haskin-beat-goes-weber-cats-crumble-big-12-tourney#gsc.tab=0

Yes, it's all lukewarm, but no one thinks he should be fired besides a few optimistic goEMAW'ers. Again, if you show me a column or group of folks in favor of firing oscar, please let me know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
The Animal's twitter interactions show the administration is still behind oscar imo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 05:20:52 PM
Feels like people are talking past each other here. Mich didn't say that oscar had strong support, and MiR didn't say that your average tuck wants oscar canned. Sounds like you both agree on what the general attitude of the fanbase is, but disagree on what conditions are necessary for lower attendance and/or coaching dismissal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 05:29:10 PM
At best, based on the same kind of anecdotal evidence that MC has linked, I'd say we are 50/50 on removing oscar next year based on fan expectations.

A huge portion of this fan base sees the NIT as a good year because we got locked out for the better part of 15 years. And a big portion of tuck/casual fans have it in their head that you can't win unless you cheat or pay players. And that goes against the moral pedestal that a huge number of our fans want to stand on.

I'm honestly not trolling. I'm very, very pessimistic towards our aggregate fan base. Sure, a number of the younger fans are done with oscar and out for blood. But a lot of older, rural, nostalgic folks get off on the fact that a white bread, boring, positive guy that recruits Claws and plays Hot Horndogs is running the show. If anything, these folks can go to church on Sunday, or work on Monday, and throw a bunch of morally superior crap at KU fans.

I think the divide here is that some think we have an evolved fan base, and that's probably true for younger folks and recent alumni. But for folks over 50, and our t-shirt fans, their definition of success is more gray and tied to strange, subjective moral victories. And oscar fits that mold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
The Animal's twitter interactions show the administration is still behind oscar imo
This will be the case until the tweet that announces a change was made.  Until then, oscar is their guy, and you don't publicly run down your guy.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2016, 05:36:15 PM
For example, my neighbor is a fifty-something baseball alumni. He interacts with Currie via the Diamond Cats. I criticized Currie for oscar, and he quickly responded that he cares about facilities and what Currie has done on that front. He's not concerned so much with oscar. And he donates a decent amount of money.

So, again, this is where we are at. It's gotta come from the big donors, and I think most of them are so dug in with Currie that oscar gets a pass as long as the cranes are still parked on campus.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2016, 05:38:14 PM


Quote from: CNS on March 19, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
The Animal's twitter interactions show the administration is still behind oscar imo
This will be the case until the tweet that announces a change was made.  Until then, oscar is their guy, and you don't publicly run down your guy.

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The Animal took it a lot further than just "not publicly running down his guy." When you're engaging fans directly who voice disapproval of someone, you aren't in the ballpark of firing them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 05:45:29 PM
Is he engaging? Seems he is just blocking

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 19, 2016, 05:45:29 PM
Is he engaging? Seems he is just blocking

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"He's" not doing anything anymore.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 06:02:07 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
8 wins isn't that hard.  i'd probably put my expectations at 7-11 give or take 2 wins in either direction.

Yeah.

K-State returns a good bit of production. Its reasonable to expect several of those guys to improve. We have a 4 star coming in and 2 bigs that have been around the program for a year.

That's where thinking 8 wins isn't ridiculous barring defections or injuries next year.

MIN   74.2%
FGM   72.3%
FGA   72.3%
FTM   74.7%
FTA   75.1%
3PM   69.1%
3PA   70.7%
PTS   72.6%
OFFR   62.5%
DEFR   64.8%
REB   63.9%
AST   74.2%
TO   70.7%
STL   69.1%
BLK   68.1%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: porky morgan on March 19, 2016, 06:03:41 PM
I don't know man. I'm over 50 and went to KState largely because of the basketball program. I got to see A LOT of great basketball and it was the most fun part of college. Then I turned my back with apathy during the down years and then got very excited again during Huggs/Frank. Now I see it taken away from me, again, and I am pissed this time. Not like I'm any kind of big donor or anything, but a lot of guys I went to school with feel the same as me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 19, 2016, 06:05:20 PM
I have tried really hard to get blocked by him. Idk what I'm doing wrong?


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
This is very depressing.  Pan's posts have illuminated the obvious, which I should have already been keenly aware of but was sort of in denial....and that is that Currie gives no fucks about "winning" and is here to run a successful business.  It makes good financial sense to keep oscar, because JUST ENOUGH of our fan base will tolerate oscar.

Kansas State fans are getting exactly what they are asking for.

This is so disheartening, because I cannot support K-State basketball as long as oscar is the coach.  I have zero respect for him.  None.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 19, 2016, 06:19:52 PM
I'd probably be upset, too, if I didn't think so many of these posts are nothing but bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 19, 2016, 06:19:52 PM
I'd probably be upset, too, if I didn't think so many of these posts are nothing but bullshit.

I mean, it's gE so yeah, but I do believe that Currie isn't going to fire oscar anytime soon.  That, alone, is enough to make me sour on K-State hoops.  Which is upsetting.  I'm sure you understand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 19, 2016, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: porky morgan on March 19, 2016, 06:03:41 PM
I don't know man. I'm over 50 and went to KState largely because of the basketball program. I got to see A LOT of great basketball and it was the most fun part of college. Then I turned my back with apathy during the down years and then got very excited again during Huggs/Frank. Now I see it taken away from me, again, and I am pissed this time. Not like I'm any kind of big donor or anything, but a lot of guys I went to school with feel the same as me.

Yup, this is my dad and his friends. They all disliked oscar from day one tho. He didn't watch a single game this year
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2016, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
This is so disheartening, because I cannot support K-State basketball as long as oscar is the coach.  I have zero respect for him.  None.

SCAR, Creighton, whoever Brad's coaching.  There's plenty of college basketball for you to take interest in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 06:28:15 PM
That is next year for me.  This year, I was too frustrated at us to enjoy any.  I am pretty much past that now and will be back to just enjoying whatever good match up is on next year


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:33:14 PM
Maybe we need a JoCo / Washburn type board added to the site where we just embrace the eff out being KU in basketball and K-State in football?  :dunno: 

Though, maybe OU in football and KU in basketball is more sustainable.  I'd say UT but I just don't know about Charlie Strong, man.   I just really don't know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 19, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
I've adopted UK in basketball. I'm giving Billy Snyd one more year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 06:41:24 PM
I will just watch whatever football game is on when I am done doing crap for the day.  I don't need my own team.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 19, 2016, 06:41:36 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:33:14 PM
Maybe we need a JoCo / Washburn type board added to the site where we just embrace the eff out being KU in basketball and K-State in football?  :dunno: 

Though, maybe OU in football and KU in basketball is more sustainable.  I'd say UT but I just don't know about Charlie Strong, man.   I just really don't know.

OU and wsu for our western KS Wichita friends
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2016, 06:44:10 PM
Me and K-State basketball...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frebelmommybookblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F10%2F7dc314b0-1ccd-0132-0882-0eae5eefacd9.gif&hash=a621098c8a87c5c913f4e162b7b18b5268fe69bc)

So I'll be here with my stats with whoever is interested.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 06:56:28 PM
We deserve better, _BBB
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 19, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
Not that is matters in the grand scheme, but it's interesting.  Since last night I've got texts from 4 OSU people about then wanting Brad.  Wore my KSU hat to the store, had 2 OSU people say they wanted "the KSU guy at SFA".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:07:42 PM
Those assholes still think their first call has to be to Bill Self.  I hope they strike out and get hung with Johnny Dawkins
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 07:11:12 PM
Paige is their guy.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 19, 2016, 07:11:12 PM
Paige is their guy.

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Who?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
Who will Kentucky go after when cal bounces for the show?  Maybe Tony Bennett.  Gregg probably couldn't handle the pressure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
Keiton Paige

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
It makes good financial sense to keep oscar, because JUST ENOUGH of our fan base will tolerate oscar.

he didn't demonstrate that at all.  weber's buyout is reasonable, and even if you assume no ticket sales decline (which is highly improbable), there is plenty of room to increase ticket sales with a more popular coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
rooting against kstate is actually almost as fun as rooting for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 07:46:11 PM
see, i just dont get that
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 07:47:25 PM
eff guys, I spend my time listening to and posting about the OSU job and it's like it never happened. rough ridin' oscar is also ruining the coaching carousel thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
It makes good financial sense to keep oscar, because JUST ENOUGH of our fan base will tolerate oscar.

he didn't demonstrate that at all.  weber's buyout is reasonable, and even if you assume no ticket sales decline (which is highly improbable), there is plenty of room to increase ticket sales with a more popular coach.

Does your plan have risk? Because keeping oscar has zero risk.  Have you met a goPowercat KSU fan before?  Zero risk.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Rooting against the Cats is a good way to still be engaged with the team you've traditionally cheered for, without having to feel like a sadist for inviting more of this shitty basketball upon yourself. I've found it effective in dealing with the cognitive dissonance that has come with oscar being our coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 07:49:19 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
rooting against kstate is actually almost as fun as rooting for them.
the process can be enjoyable but I don't like my feels when the game ends
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
do you honestly think his best job offer is going to be TCU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 19, 2016, 07:50:24 PM

Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
rooting against kstate is actually almost as fun as rooting for them.
Its more of a 'making fun of the team you are rooting for' situation for me.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
if you honestly feel a sense of accomplishment and a positive feeling rooting against a team, i dont see how you genuinely care about that team.  that defeats the purpose.  now if its because the end goal is to make them better, i mean i guess, but to find enjoyment in that process is rough ridin' weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 19, 2016, 07:53:22 PM
I can't give up kstate hoops.....I just can't . I will cuss oscar every day and visit firebrucewebernow frequently though.

Also, if Brad goes to OSU or TCU, I may just give up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 07:48:12 PM
Does your plan have risk? Because keeping oscar has zero risk.  Have you met a goPowercat KSU fan before?  Zero risk.

keeping weber also entails risk.  and have you visited gpc recently?  about 90% of bball posts are antiweber or prounderwood posts
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Rooting against the Cats is a good way to still be engaged with the team you've traditionally cheered for, without having to feel like a sadist for inviting more of this shitty basketball upon yourself. I've found it effective in dealing with the cognitive dissonance that has come with oscar being our coach.

yes.  that's it exactly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
if you honestly feel a sense of accomplishment and a positive feeling rooting against a team, i dont see how you genuinely care about that team.  that defeats the purpose.  now if its because the end goal is to make them better, i mean i guess, but to find enjoyment in that process is rough ridin' weird.

I mean, every game we lose, we're one game closer to oscar Weber getting shitcanned. I guess it's not hard for me to be positive about the process when it's framed that way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 07:48:12 PM
Does your plan have risk? Because keeping oscar has zero risk.  Have you met a goPowercat KSU fan before?  Zero risk.

keeping weber also entails risk.  and have you visited gpc recently?  about 90% of bball posts are antiweber or prounderwood posts

the only risk with keeping weber is that you may not get brad.  and that, to me, isn't a risk Currie gives a crap about because he believes he can find another coach should oscar suck next year.  this is the man that let the best basketball coach we had in like 15-20yrs walk.  we were making money (relatively speaking).  and he let him go.  you think he's going to blink at giving oscar another year? 

Currie hired this eff head after getting fired for basically being the coach he is now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
if you honestly feel a sense of accomplishment and a positive feeling rooting against a team, i dont see how you genuinely care about that team.  that defeats the purpose.  now if its because the end goal is to make them better, i mean i guess, but to find enjoyment in that process is rough ridin' weird.

I mean, every game we lose, we're one game closer to oscar Weber getting shitcanned. I guess it's not hard for me to be positive about the process when it's framed that way.

are we really that much closer, honestly?  if we are being real here after the 4 consecutive worst seasons(which is the first of its kind in school history) and the face the AD has put on everything, i just dont know.  i want oscar gone more than anyone, but i still hate losing.  maybe its because i am a very very competitive person, but every time we lose, whether its close or embarrassing, it still hurts.  i do not enjoy the process.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 08:07:07 PM
If beard or buzz are their main targets OSU can now move quickly as they both lost today. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
you think he's going to blink at giving oscar another year? 

i don't think currie is going to fire weber.  i think kstate is going to sell fewer tickets in 2016-2017 than 2015-2106.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
you think he's going to blink at giving oscar another year? 

i don't think currie is going to fire weber.  i think kstate is going to sell fewer tickets in 2016-2017 than 2015-2106.

I don't see why ticket sales will matter. At the point we'll know our ticket sales it will be too late.  Like finding out you won the lottery but you're the last person alive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
if you honestly feel a sense of accomplishment and a positive feeling rooting against a team, i dont see how you genuinely care about that team.  that defeats the purpose.  now if its because the end goal is to make them better, i mean i guess, but to find enjoyment in that process is rough ridin' weird.

I mean, every game we lose, we're one game closer to oscar Weber getting shitcanned. I guess it's not hard for me to be positive about the process when it's framed that way.

are we really that much closer, honestly?  if we are being real here after the 4 consecutive worst seasons(which is the first of its kind in school history) and the face the AD has put on everything, i just dont know.  i want oscar gone more than anyone, but i still hate losing.  maybe its because i am a very very competitive person, but every time we lose, whether its close or embarrassing, it still hurts.  i do not enjoy the process.

If we miss the tourney next year, oscar will get fired. If he makes the tourney, I don't know what I'll do. I don't think my mind is capable of overcoming oscar and finding enjoyment in rooting for the Cats anymore. It's like one of those trick pictures, where you see it one way at first, but then you see it from a different perspective and you can never see it the first way again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
i just want him gone now and Brad at the helm and not have to worry about it  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2016, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:14:21 PM
I don't see why ticket sales will matter. At the point we'll know our ticket sales it will be too late.  Like finding out you won the lottery but you're the last person alive.

it's just something to argue about on a message board, which is something i enjoy doing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:30 PM
As an adult I find it very hard to root "against" any team. Disengaging is much less effort.

When I was younger I had a lot more hate in me tho and I rooted against everything
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:24:53 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:14:21 PM
I don't see why ticket sales will matter. At the point we'll know our ticket sales it will be too late.  Like finding out you won the lottery but you're the last person alive.

it's just something to argue about on a message board, which is something i enjoy doing.

Oh. In that case I agree that ticket sales will be slightly down. Maybe a hundred less season ticket holders. Actual attendance down 4.7%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
do you honestly think his best job offer is going to be TCU?

No because SLU is a better job. If offered he should go to SLU, if TCU or Tulane ends up being his best offers he should just stay at SFA for another season, it isn't like they aren't going to dominate the Southland again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
do you honestly think his best job offer is going to be TCU?

No because SLU is a better job. If offered he should go to SLU, if TCU or Tulane ends up being his best offers he should just stay at SFA for another season, it isn't like they aren't going to dominate the Southland again.

Really anywhere other than P5 (TCU excepted, they blow) is fine for keeping the BBB dream alive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 19, 2016, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
Who will Kentucky go after when cal bounces for the show?  Maybe Tony Bennett.  Gregg probably couldn't handle the pressure.
Cal isn't leaving Kentucky.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
do you honestly think his best job offer is going to be TCU?

No because SLU is a better job. If offered he should go to SLU, if TCU or Tulane ends up being his best offers he should just stay at SFA for another season, it isn't like they aren't going to dominate the Southland again.
if Gregg leaves you can put Brad to WSU in ink, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
do you honestly think his best job offer is going to be TCU?

No because SLU is a better job. If offered he should go to SLU, if TCU or Tulane ends up being his best offers he should just stay at SFA for another season, it isn't like they aren't going to dominate the Southland again.
if Gregg leaves you can put Brad to WSU in ink, right?

For sure, but Gregg has made it clear that he's only leaving for a blue blood and since Crean made the Sweet 16 there won't be any of those jobs opening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2016, 08:39:49 PM
Is North Carolina considered a blue blood?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Yeah, if Roy retires they are likely to hire Hubert Davis or King Rice. Gregg isn't in the family even though he has Carolina ties.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Yeah, if Roy retires they are likely to hire Hubert Davis or King Rice. Gregg isn't in the family even though he has Carolina ties.

You might laugh, but I would not be surprised if they hired CB McGrath next.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Canary on March 19, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2016, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 19, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
you think he's going to blink at giving oscar another year? 

i don't think currie is going to fire weber.  i think kstate is going to sell fewer tickets in 2016-2017 than 2015-2106.
They sold two fewer from my checkbook. Not huge but won't pay for what we are getting right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Yeah, if Roy retires they are likely to hire Hubert Davis or King Rice. Gregg isn't in the family even though he has Carolina ties.

You might laugh, but I would not be surprised if they hired CB McGrath next.

Not anymore crazier than Rice or Davis. They really should hire Gregg but they are going to be hellbent on hiring a guy with Carolina ties.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Yeah, if Roy retires they are likely to hire Hubert Davis or King Rice. Gregg isn't in the family even though he has Carolina ties.

You might laugh, but I would not be surprised if they hired CB McGrath next.

Not anymore crazier than Rice or Davis. They really should hire Gregg but they are going to be hellbent on hiring a guy with Carolina ties.

CB isn't a grad, obviously, but he IS Roy's boy for sure.  Roy loves the crap out of him. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 19, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Yeah, if Roy retires they are likely to hire Hubert Davis or King Rice. Gregg isn't in the family even though he has Carolina ties.

You might laugh, but I would not be surprised if they hired CB McGrath next.

Not anymore crazier than Rice or Davis. They really should hire Gregg but they are going to be hellbent on hiring a guy with Carolina ties.

CB isn't a grad, obviously, but he IS Roy's boy for sure.  Roy loves the crap out of him.

He's Roy's Coach Gut
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb.  He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel.  He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank.  He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?)  I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not.  Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.

I am saying that I am going to wait until after the Final Four to extinguish all hope on the life of K-State hoops.  For now, I take succor in the words of John Fogerty.

Pack my bag and let's get moving
'Cause I'm bound to drift awhile
Though I'm gone, gone
You don't have to worry
Long as I can see the light
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 19, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
i really do hope Currie at least reconsiders
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
Cold blooded Currie hired oscar because he knew he would win right away.  It's the only logical explanation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 20, 2016, 02:32:55 AM
Look at/listen to this rough ridin' stud of studs.

https://youtu.be/Ko1lwWkxEHs?t=44s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUZ1lhYndpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBjIQzRRwo

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 08:42:04 AM
He talks like Frank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 09:18:17 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb.  He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel.  He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank.  He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?)  I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not.  Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.

Deb was making 600K/yr.  Mittie came in and made 375K/yr (w/ 25K escalations each year).  I don't know what we had to pay her when she left, but John made money on firing Deb.  Or it was close to a neutral proposition.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 20, 2016, 10:34:24 AM
Why were we paying wbb coach that much and not winning tourneys?


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb.  He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel.  He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank.  He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?)  I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not.  Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.

Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb.  He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel.  He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank.  He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?)  I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not.  Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.

Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.

Re:  Angel, see Leti's allegations.  We will never hear Currie on the record on the matter due to FERPA.  http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they)

The Frank-Currie relationship was a complete lol-fest and it is completely unnecessary to go blow-by-blow on how Currie mishandled it.  I am not excusing Frank's role, but Currie was certainly the number one reason Frank left.

I attempted to make clear that Brad was not the consensus pick, but everyone would've rallied around it.  It had the benefit of following the model of Frank Martin, which was a successful hire by almost any measure and internal assistant hires from successful programs are very normal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.

A Texas Tech season would give us an 8 seed in the tourney, and would give us a five year stretch of 3 NCAAs in 5 years with a conference title.

Over any 5 year period:
1. what is your definition of "success" for K-State basketball
2. what do believe is john currie's definition of "success" for K-State basketball
3. does style matter (personality of coach, likability, having a brand etc) more than the results
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 20, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
Over a 5 year period I want 4 NCAAs 1 NIT no losing season, 2 seasons in the top 3 in the big 12 one run to a Sweet 16 or better, never a losing season.

Currie's definition for success is no scandal and post season 3 out of 5 years.

Yes having a brand and a non loser personality matters.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.

A Texas Tech season would give us an 8 seed in the tourney, and would give us a five year stretch of 3 NCAAs in 5 years with a conference title.

Over any 5 year period:
1. what is your definition of "success" for K-State basketball
2. what do believe is john currie's definition of "success" for K-State basketball
3. does style matter (personality of coach, likability, having a brand etc)

1. Minimum: Reason for hope for a sweet 16 every few years.  A Tech like season next year doesn't do it.  Also, stop with including "with a conference title".  No reasonable KSU fans believe oscar can recreate the situation he walked into his first year.
2. Good enough so the revenue isn't so low that he doesn't have to fire oscar before he moves on.
3. You're trying to make this a style thing.  I don't consider excuse making a style attribute.  Continual excuse making and begging for NITs, like oscar did, is a factor.  It leads to the no hope feeling in point 1.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
Re:  Angel, see Leti's allegations.  We will never hear Currie on the record on the matter due to FERPA.  http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they)

Leti was wrong, either accidentally or intentionally.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27475.msg1098233#msg1098233

No one else, including Angel himself, has given any indication that Angel was not able to transfer when he wanted.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
Also, a tech like season next year doesn't equal an 8 seed.  With what ISU and OU are losing, I doubt the conference will have the RPI to get its 7th place team an 8 seed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb.  He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel.  He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank.  He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?)  I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not.  Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.

Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.

I'm one of your biggest supporters here, but your 2 about Frank is a bold face lie and makes people here really question you.  And yeah some wanted Doug, I believe, after it was clear ADJC was burning down the entire coaching staff and starting new.  Most wanted Doug for the fun of it being outside the box.  Instead we got a coach worse than Romeo Crennel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 20, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
Our school should never miss the post season and never post a sub-.500 record. Doing either, for any reason, is failing. I don't believe anyone would find this unreasonable
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.


A Texas Tech season would give us an 8 seed in the tourney, and would give us a five year stretch of 3 NCAAs in 5 years with a conference title.

Over any 5 year period:
1. what is your definition of "success" for K-State basketball
2. what do believe is john currie's definition of "success" for K-State basketball
3. does style matter (personality of coach, likability, having a brand etc) more than the results

being a complete dipshit who cannot string a coherent sentence together. having no respect from your players bc you sound and act like said dipshit. you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 12:52:55 PM
Blackcats is much more my speed.  At least he brings the zeal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
OMFG, Captain.  Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk.  This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs.  Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success.  OMG.  eff you, dude.  eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you.  Seriously. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 20, 2016, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 19, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: BostonPancake on March 19, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
What is slightly better?  Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him?  That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare.  I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.

This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.

A Texas Tech season would give us an 8 seed in the tourney, and would give us a five year stretch of 3 NCAAs in 5 years with a conference title.

Over any 5 year period:
1. what is your definition of "success" for K-State basketball
2. what do believe is john currie's definition of "success" for K-State basketball
3. does style matter (personality of coach, likability, having a brand etc) more than the results

1.  I want to be in the NCAA tournament every year.  When we make the NCAA tournament we should at least play to our seed 3 out of every 4 years.  But, in the event we are not in the NCAA I want to make the NIT.  Further, the reason we didn't make it is because we were in some type of transition because we had some really good / great players from the previous year graduate and now we are building back up to that level.  We would have struggled early on, but by the end of the year we could really see things coming together and and NIT berth would set the stage for the next year to be something exciting.  We should also be able to win a game or two.

2.  Revenue stays at whatever level he deems appropriate.  Recruit outstanding student athletes and other non quantifiable measures.

3.  Winning makes up for any shortcoming with style, likability, etc.  Doesn't matter to me if we are winning.  If we are winning, those things will take care of themselves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 12:58:05 PM
It's not a good time right now to ask Angel about the Leti/transfer stuff.  He's in the middle of something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM

Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.

I'm one of your biggest supporters here, but your 2 about Frank is a bold face lie and makes people here really question you.

JC and FM were not best friends, but they don't have to be. There was no reason FM couldn't have remained as kstates head coach. He was offered a contract extension.

Frank was/is very popular, so it is very easy to blame Currie for Frank leaving (making him unhappy, not trying harder to keep him, etc). Frank was ultimately the one who decided it wasn't sustainable here and chose to leave. At minimum, they both are to blame (and to be fair, I think several people on here have said this). It isn't accurate to paint Currie alone as the reason FM is gone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: DOD Take 2 on March 20, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
Our school should never miss the post season and never post a sub-.500 record. Doing either, for any reason, is failing. I don't believe anyone would find this unreasonable

I agree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
OMFG, Captain.  Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk.  This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs.  Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success.  OMG.  eff you, dude.  eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you.  Seriously.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 20, 2016, 01:15:27 PM
We should not only make the NCAA next year, we have to win a freakin game! If we make it and bow out after day one, then Weber will have 0 post season wins in 5 years!!!

Unfreakin unacceptable... Texas Tech season? Play above average ball and get thumped day one? If that is acceptable for the administration, then I give up ..... :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on March 20, 2016, 01:22:46 PM
The thing that is the most frustrating is that this magical first season where we won the title gets trotted out like it's proof that Oscar can lead us to the promised land. We went 0-3 against KU and lost our first tournament game. That's still not getting it done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2016, 01:32:51 PM
John Currie is the sole reason Frank left


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 20, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
eff Currie, eff oscar, eff K-State Basketball, and especially eff you captaincrap and the rest of you rough ridin' excuse making losers. You deserve this piece of crap coach, piece of crap team, and piece of crap loser excuses from a worthless, crybaby, excuse-making, loser coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
OMFG, Captain.  Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk.  This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs.  Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success.  OMG.  eff you, dude.  eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you.  Seriously.

 :confused:

Your responses are, as usual, disingenuous at best.  and it's insulting.  however it does provide insight to how the administration thinks, which is appreciated.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 20, 2016, 01:41:11 PM
Thanks for being a voice at reason in a field of panic petunias captain.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on March 20, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
eff Currie, eff oscar, eff K-State Basketball, and especially eff you captaincrap and the rest of you rough ridin' excuse making losers. You deserve this piece of crap coach, piece of crap team, and piece of crap loser excuses from a worthless, crybaby, excuse-making, loser coach

So angry. I don't believe I made any excuses. I apologize for offending you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
OMFG, Captain.  Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk.  This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs.  Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success.  OMG.  eff you, dude.  eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you.  Seriously.

 :confused:

Your responses are, as usual, disingenuous at best.  and it's insulting.  however it does provide insight to how the administration thinks, which is appreciated.

I am interested to hear how you think me saying I am confused is disingenuous.

"Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success.  "

 I have never said this or indicated this. I stated a fact and asked a question. That it triggered such an angry response indicates you have a larger issue in play.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 20, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
:lol:

Thanks for your input redacted
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Even with 0 wins?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Even with 0 wins?
I've always said I don't give a crap about NCAA tournament performance, at least when it comes to evaluating the overall performance of a coach and program.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Would need to be NIT other two years tho, I think. I personally don't think K-State should ever miss postseason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Currie didn't think 4 out of 5 yrs of NCAA's and 5 post seasons, no losing records, an E8 run, and a NCAA tourney win every NCAA appearance was good enough to make reasonable efforts to keep that coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
Gary Parrish saying Jamie Dixon pondering TCU job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:23:59 PM


Quote from: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Currie didn't think 4 out of 5 yrs of NCAA's and 5 post seasons, no losing records, an E8 run, and a NCAA tourney win every NCAA appearance was good enough to make reasonable efforts to keep that coach.

We all know that had nothing to do with on-court performance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Would need to be NIT other two years tho, I think. I personally don't think K-State should ever miss postseason.
So you're saying you think Weber should have been fired after last season?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 20, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
:lol:

Thanks for your input Josh

are we using each other's real names now, captain?  i wouldn't wish to be rude.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.

Would need to be NIT other two years tho, I think. I personally don't think K-State should ever miss postseason.
So you're saying you think Weber should have been fired after last season?

No, that's not what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
are we using each other's real names now, captain?  i wouldn't wish to be rude.

Yeah, was poor form by me. Apologies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
The years we don't go to the NCAA, we should be bitching about bubbles and east cost bias.  We should be that close, rather than being super shitty and knowing weeks before that there is no way we get selected.  The latter is a fireable offense, imo.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
are we using each other's real names now, captain?  i wouldn't wish to be rude.

Yeah, was poor form by me. Apologies.

You can always use the generic "boss" or "chief" too, unless that's reserved for big wins.  But I'll answer to Trim or Josh if you holler at me in the street.  I'm back in town June 18!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
the whole discussion is pointless, btw.  no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass.  the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach.  it's about underwood, not weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
the whole discussion is pointless, btw.  no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass.  the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach.  it's about underwood, not weber.

I agree, if Weber was fired tomorrow, I don't think there would be much explanation needed from Currie, and the national perception would be that it was justified -- the reaction to Stanford's coach firing proves that.

Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
Gary Parrish saying Jamie Dixon pondering TCU job.

That isn't good news for our hopes of somehow getting Brad in 2017. I don't understand the move for Dixon. I get doing the old Haith Reset but TCU is one of the five worst power five jobs with BC, Rutgers, Washington State, and Northwestern.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
the whole discussion is pointless, btw.  no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass.  the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach.  it's about underwood, not weber.

I agree, if Weber was fired tomorrow, I don't think there would be much explanation needed from Currie, and the national perception would be that it was justified -- the reaction to Stanford's coach firing proves that.

Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?

Like a coach that has been to the tourney 3 of the last 4 years and recruited several NBA players in that time frame?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on March 20, 2016, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
the whole discussion is pointless, btw.  no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass.  the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach.  it's about underwood, not weber.

I agree, if Weber was fired tomorrow, I don't think there would be much explanation needed from Currie, and the national perception would be that it was justified -- the reaction to Stanford's coach firing proves that.

Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?

I'm in. Not bound to an Underwood hire. Weber is just repeating his tenure at Illinois, and it is maddening we hired that to begin with. Take the B12 title, some decent talent left behind, and cut your losses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 03:05:54 PM


Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: sys on March 20, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
the whole discussion is pointless, btw.  no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass.  the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach.  it's about underwood, not weber.

I agree, if Weber was fired tomorrow, I don't think there would be much explanation needed from Currie, and the national perception would be that it was justified -- the reaction to Stanford's coach firing proves that.

Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?

Depends on the wins
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Why does our coach have to have P5 experience? Illinois stupid for hiring Self? KSU stupid for hiring Lon? Frank? Weber had all kinds of P5 experience.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Maybe another recently fired coach?  That would show me a commitment to winning basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 20, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?

then, hypothetically, he should go be ad of some other school that wants to hire buzz williams.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
I think if you can make a clear upgrade at a coaching position you almost always should do it.  There is almost no loyalty in the business and loyalty can have its downsides even when it is mutual and merited.  Currie has shown has tasted blood before, let's see if he still has the killer instinct.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 03:15:54 PM
Buzz has done great things on his own without the leftovers of others.
 He is the type of coach you hire and give time to, especially when cleaning up a oscar.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 03:18:06 PM

Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
Re:  Angel, see Leti's allegations.  We will never hear Currie on the record on the matter due to FERPA.  http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they)

Leti was wrong, either accidentally or intentionally.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27475.msg1098233#msg1098233

No one else, including Angel himself, has given any indication that Angel was not able to transfer when he wanted.

I appreciate your response here.  It is almost impossible to know whether angel was offered a deal.  What we do know is how Currie behaved during the Leti saga, and in the Curtis Kelly saga.  Both indicate that Currie is willing to use the full extent of the the procedural power available to him when he wants something.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 03:18:41 PM

Quote from: Chingon on March 20, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Maybe another recently fired coach?  That would show me a commitment to winning basketball.

Rick Barnes?


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 03:18:41 PM

Quote from: Chingon on March 20, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Maybe another recently fired coach?  That would show me a commitment to winning basketball.

Rick Barnes?


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Too late!!

But in a couple of years he might be available again. Then we can reach those lofty heights that only programs like Texas Tech get to. To dream.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 03:24:04 PM
John-ny Daw-kins clap-clap-clapclapclap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 03:25:05 PM
Travis Ford recruited 3 NBA players, went to the tournament 3 of the last 4 years. I heard he was available.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2016, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 20, 2016, 03:24:04 PM
John-ny Daw-kins clap-clap-clapclapclap
The daxes of our fan base would never allow it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
oh man
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 03:36:27 PM
Brad is almost in the sweet 16.  That should be an auto offer, imo.  If the AD will ever be open to hiring brad, what would/could they even be waiting for after that?

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 20, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 20, 2016, 03:18:41 PM

Quote from: Chingon on March 20, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Maybe another recently fired coach?  That would show me a commitment to winning basketball.

Rick Barnes?


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Too late!!

But in a couple of years he might be available again. Then we can reach those lofty heights that only programs like Texas Tech get to. To dream.

It is amazing how far expectations have fallen in such a short period of time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
Wow, SFA was " " close to really putting some uncomfortable pressure on our AD for another week.  Would have been a  whole week of chatter on goPowercat about that one for sure.  They are really up in arms about how much they hate oscar Weber, and by extension many seem to really hate Currie.  DODGED A BULLET!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
GPC hates Weber?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM

Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.

I'm one of your biggest supporters here, but your 2 about Frank is a bold face lie and makes people here really question you.

JC and FM were not best friends, but they don't have to be. There was no reason FM couldn't have remained as kstates head coach. He was offered a contract extension.

Frank was/is very popular, so it is very easy to blame Currie for Frank leaving (making him unhappy, not trying harder to keep him, etc). Frank was ultimately the one who decided it wasn't sustainable here and chose to leave. At minimum, they both are to blame (and to be fair, I think several people on here have said this). It isn't accurate to paint Currie alone as the reason FM is gone.

Agree 100% that they are both responsible.  They are both to blame for tearing down the program for nothing more than petty bullshit building up over time.  Yeah Jam Sam was the final straw under the bus, but that relationship was sour because of Currie poisoning the well. You can't blame Frank for looking elsewhere when you have bitter water to drink and now you have an AD actively undermining your program, failing to back your student athletes, and misrepresenting the rules all in a quest to make himself look clean. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
GPC hates Weber?

Yep. 

I didn't believe it when Sys first told me that, but I went over there and read thread after thread confirming just that.  It's really impressive.  They despise Weber.  The ONLY thing they seem divided on is how much to blame Currie.  50-50 on whether Currie should be out as well, it would seem.  Interesting for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
It amazes me that ADs fire coaches and than hire retread coaches who have proven to be failures at a P5 level.  I've still yet to hear one example of a coach fired for being a loser at a P5 school who went on to success somewhere (P5) else. You have to take the risk on a lower level coach or assistant with no track record over a loser like Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
GPC hates Weber?

Yep. 

I didn't believe it when Sys first told me that, but I went over there and read thread after thread confirming just that.  It's really impressive.  They despise Weber.  They ONLY thing they seem divided on is how much to blame Currie.  50-50 on whether Currie should be out as well, it would seem.  Interesting for sure.

D. Scott's commentary on Twitter has to be a factor in that.  He's really passive aggressive about oscar.

A work friend of mine who frequents GPC tells me the same things after he texts me curse word laden epithets about oscar after each loss.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:13:21 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
GPC hates Weber?

Yep. 

I didn't believe it when Sys first told me that, but I went over there and read thread after thread confirming just that.  It's really impressive.  They despise Weber.  The ONLY thing they seem divided on is how much to blame Currie.  50-50 on whether Currie should be out as well, it would seem.  Interesting for sure.

If we hate Weber, and they hate Weber, who the eff is attending these home games? I think this calls for an investigation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:13:54 PM
Maybe the scout board is sending their people?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:21:55 PM
Kansas State fans still attend games because they are loyal.  They hate oscar Weber, but still attend....this makes them very uncomfortable, as it would anyone.  This can only last so long before they start to hate the person that they perceive as being responsible for this uncomfortable situation. 

Take your guesses about what they'll do with that blame....and where/how that blame will rear it's head when it's time to pick a football coach.   :users:


Currie is playing with fire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 20, 2016, 04:22:07 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 04:13:54 PM
Maybe the scout board is sending their people?

I forget that's still a thing


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 04:25:39 PM
Ksu fans went a long time without attending bball games in the 90's.  It can happen .

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2016, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 20, 2016, 04:21:55 PM
Kansas State fans still attend games because they are loyal.  They hate oscar Weber, but still attend....this makes them very uncomfortable, as it would anyone.  This can only last so long before they start to hate the person that they perceive as being responsible for this uncomfortable situation. 

Take your guesses about what they'll do with that blame....and where/how that blame will rear it's head when it's time to pick a football coach.   :users:


Currie is playing with fire.

We are a state that re-elected a guy with a 26% approval rating.  It's kind of in our DNA.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adweek.com%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fnode-blog%2Fblogs%2Fdirectv-settler-hed-2016.jpg&hash=9878bf8e5a11563da38a64423be9e9b7a7bf3cb6)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
https://twitter.com/JayMart/status/711664150993211392
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 20, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
Bring Lon home
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
Would take

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 04:38:12 PM
I am unhappy with the direction of the football program but I'm upgrading, a lot. Sorry 'bout it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 20, 2016, 06:31:05 PM
probably lukes
http://collegespun.com/acc/pittsburgh/report-pitts-jamie-dixon-considering-taking-head-coaching-job-at-tcu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 06:33:47 PM
I feel like there's been Dixon to TCU chatter every time the job's been open.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2016, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 06:33:47 PM
I feel like there's been Dixon to TCU chatter every time the job's been open.

I guess sometimes people will listen to their alma mater.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.

you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 20, 2016, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 20, 2016, 03:24:04 PM
John-ny Daw-kins clap-clap-clapclapclap
The daxes of our fan base would never allow it.

WTF are you talking about ChinButtHurt?

So rough riding weird and a total dork store.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 20, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
nice article by fitz.  really gonna be hard to rationalize holding onto oscar when seemingly the entire fanbase wants him gone.

currie has to at least think about it, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 07:58:42 PM
I appreciate the push

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2016, 08:00:54 PM

Quote from: CNS on March 20, 2016, 07:58:42 PM
I appreciate the push

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People can talk all they want about their opinion on Fitz, but there is no doubt he has sway with a big group of fans. This is a gigantic domino to fall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 08:01:40 PM
Agreed. It may be enough but it may take a year still. 

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state

Sometimes you get glimpses of what fitz is capable of as a writer and human being like this and think fondly of him, and then you remember he is likely ogling an 18 year olds tits at some bar in the ville.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.

you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.

I personally don't think missing postseason completely is ok, much less twice in a row, so I am certainly not telling/implying you to be ok with it.

I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read. I would remind you all again that Currie does not like losing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state

But Currie's accepts a total Chingon like dork looking like an idiot standing the whole game??
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 08:09:03 PM

Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.

you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.

I personally don't think missing postseason completely is ok, much less twice in a row, so I am certainly not telling/implying you to be ok with it.

I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read. I would remind you all again that Currie does not like losing.

As of right now he should be livid, the 3 primary men's sports are faltering, badly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:09:26 PM
What is stopping Currie from hiring Brad Underwood?  2 million dollars he doesn't have?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 20, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:09:26 PM
What is stopping Currie from hiring Brad Underwood?  2 million dollars he doesn't have?
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Get Carl and Mary on the line. We need to Ice oscar first.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 08:18:12 PM
Is pursuing brad as easy of a choice now as not hiring oscar was 4 years ago? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
How hard would it be for us to raise 2 million dollars tonight? Like a gofundme that pays out to the athletic department if Brad is hired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 20, 2016, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
How hard would it be for us to raise 2 million dollars tonight? Like a gofundme that pays out to the athletic department if Brad is hired.

ICATwo hundred.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 20, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
A minority of K-State fans have never forgiven Currie for his handling of Martin, who won games but did so in a manner that made Currie uncomfortable. He regularly complained to Martin about his sideline demeanor, his yelling at players, and often much more trivial matters. Five years ago, Martin told me Currie informed him that one of Martin’s assistant coaches “stood up” too often during games. That coach was Brad Underwood.

TF ?  Really ?   :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.

you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.

I personally don't think missing postseason completely is ok, much less twice in a row, so I am certainly not telling/implying you to be ok with it.

I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read. I would remind you all again that Currie does not like losing.

If oscar is not fired after this season, it seems that the administration is 100% OK with missing postseason two years in a row.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: muqluk on March 20, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state

Damn that's a well written 'off with his head' article
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 08:44:01 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Sometimes you get glimpses of what fitz is capable of as a writer and human being like this and think fondly of him, and then you remember he is likely ogling an 18 year olds tits at some bar in the ville.

Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read.

The lesson as always is that gE needs more boob pics on here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
I thought it was a sloppy, wordy, disorganized mess of a piece, but I can still appreciate his sentiment.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2016, 08:54:10 PM
It's good to have fitz on board


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
Rampant drug use LOL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 08:59:12 PM

Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: captaincrap on March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 20, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.

Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.

you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.

I personally don't think missing postseason completely is ok, much less twice in a row, so I am certainly not telling/implying you to be ok with it.

I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read. I would remind you all again that Currie does not like losing.

No one thinks he likes it.  We believe he is indifferent to losing at K-State...it's just another line on his balanced scorecard, on which he examines his opportunities for personal advancement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 08:59:27 PM
The only plausible explanation for all of this madness is that Underwood has promised to build a wall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Quote from: Cire on March 20, 2016, 08:54:10 PM
It's good to have fitz on board


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Yep.  All corners of the K-State world are getting ready to line up against John Currie.   

John Currie is playing with fire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 09:06:52 PM
If a fitz letter is all it takes, that guy needs to pay more attention to this board.  I mean, the entire letter was basically an apology to gE and an admission that we were right and he was wrong
 

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I like that his source on all things Brad is a guy named Muff.  Also eff yea Salina!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2016, 09:16:27 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 08:59:27 PM
The only plausible explanation for all of this madness is that Underwood has promised to build a wall.

Make K-State Great Again!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 09:35:52 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
I thought it was a sloppy, wordy, disorganized mess of a piece, but I can still appreciate his sentiment.

This guy. Pffft
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
The great thing about firing oscar next year is that we won't be limiting ourselves to a knee-jerk candidate like Underwood and can get someone better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2016, 09:47:18 PM

Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
The great thing about firing oscar next year is that we won't be limiting ourselves to a knee-jerk candidate like Underwood and can get someone better.

Let's just focus on the getting rid of oscar at all costs part.  The rest will work itself out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 20, 2016, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I like that his source on all things Brad is a guy named Muff.  Also eff yea Salina!

First time I read it I scrolled one paragraph too far.  I thought he was talking about his wife.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
The great thing about firing oscar next year is that we won't be limiting ourselves to a knee-jerk candidate like Underwood and can get someone better.

Who is better right now or next year?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 20, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Quote from: Cire on March 20, 2016, 08:54:10 PM
It's good to have fitz on board


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Yep.  All corners of the K-State world are getting ready to line up against John Currie.   

John Currie is playing with fire.

Welcome everyone.

https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/711018318501531648
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 20, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
i really agree with pete about this being a dangerous time for currie.  everyone wants underwood.  given the circumstances, underwood won't be available next year. 

if this doesn't happen, people are going to be pissed. if it does happen, it needs to happen fast.  this opportunity won't be here a week from now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
There will be riots.

Gonna build a wall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 10:20:52 PM
Quicker than that. We should be on the phone in the next day or two, at most.  I mean, we don't have to have an offer, but at least  make contact and have the initial discussion so that brad knows it could be a possibility to weigh.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 10:23:17 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 20, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
i really agree with pete about this being a dangerous time for currie.  everyone wants underwood.  given the circumstances, underwood won't be available next year. 

if this doesn't happen, people are going to be pissed. if it does happen, it needs to happen fast.  this opportunity won't be here a week from now.

If basketball sucks, having riots at every football and basketball game is a pretty cool ying to that yang.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 10:28:03 PM
People are going to be pissed.  I mean really pissed.  They will still buy tickets and go to games, but by god they will be pissed the entire time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 10:28:03 PM
People are going to be pissed.  I mean really pissed.  They will still buy tickets and go to games, but by god they will be pissed the entire time.

:emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2016, 10:34:54 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
There will be riots.

Gonna build a wall.

https://twitter.com/PJ_BOTC/status/711757342065369089
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state

But Currie's accepts a total Chingon like dork looking like an idiot standing the whole game??

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frs851.pbsrc.com%2Falbums%2Fab72%2Fmot667%2FGif%2520Collection%2FFLAIL.gif%7Ec200&hash=32da916633d7a59f1be7662dc868c6f5f83b1ef1)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gE_Temp on March 20, 2016, 11:10:23 PM
Posted in another thread, but firebrucewebernow.com supports Fitz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2016, 11:56:23 PM
Even as sanitized as it's become, I might have to fly back for nutPAK if everything stays as is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 21, 2016, 08:24:11 AM
TCU has reportedly offered to double Dixon's current contract.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 08:33:56 AM
Read somewhere his Pitt buyout is 10 million
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
JFC, it's 9:10am.  Has this Brad thing happened yet?!!?!???

 :impatient:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2016, 09:15:14 AM
I think the oscar thing needs to happen first, maybe?!?!?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2016, 09:16:12 AM
Or maybe Currie gets Brad to tell oscar.

"hey man, you're in my office."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:17:04 AM
Just stop paying oscar, he won't do anything about it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:17:04 AM
Just stop paying oscar, he won't do anything about it.

Yep.  Move his desk down to the storage level and have Accounting  "correct" Currie's mistake.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Phil Titola on March 21, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
Flight watch 2016
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Demo158 on March 21, 2016, 09:50:48 AM
Everything will be alright. We'll hire Brad, the pokes will hire Doug. Brad's cats and Doug's pokes will instantly overthrow Bill's squawks and Lon's landthieves for the most dominant Big 12 teams and all will be right with the world...

It's unfortunate that this pipe dream of mine will never be reality




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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:20:32 AM
I hope OSU hires Doug and their highs and lows are ridic high and low.  That will be fun.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 21, 2016, 10:28:10 AM

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 20, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 20, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 20, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
Fitz FTW! https://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-underwood-has-earned-his-shot-at-k-state

But Currie's accepts a total Chingon like dork looking like an idiot standing the whole game??

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frs851.pbsrc.com%2Falbums%2Fab72%2Fmot667%2FGif%2520Collection%2FFLAIL.gif%7Ec200&hash=32da916633d7a59f1be7662dc868c6f5f83b1ef1)
I thought MIR was a black dude.
(See how fake it sounds when a white guy says black 'dude'?)


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 10:28:30 AM

Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:20:32 AM
I hope OSU hires Doug and their highs and lows are ridic high and low.  That will be fun.

It's not happening. Their version of gE is wanting him, but the tucks want Brad or Buzz. The AD made a point of saying that Doug has no coaching experience and 'that is huge' (his words)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:29:48 AM
It would be pretty great to have buzz in conf.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 21, 2016, 10:38:05 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:29:48 AM
It would be pretty great to have buzz in conf.

I wonder if he's been back to Morgontown since he danced at mid-court.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: TheHamburglar on March 21, 2016, 10:38:05 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:29:48 AM
It would be pretty great to have buzz in conf.

I wonder if he's been back to Morgontown since he danced at mid-court.

I would certainly watch that match up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on March 21, 2016, 10:50:56 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 10:28:30 AM

Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:20:32 AM
I hope OSU hires Doug and their highs and lows are ridic high and low.  That will be fun.

It's not happening. Their version of gE is wanting him, but the tucks want Brad or Buzz. The AD made a point of saying that Doug has no coaching experience and 'that is huge' (his words)

Sheesh, AD's are the dumbest people in the world.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 21, 2016, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: _33 on March 21, 2016, 10:50:56 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 10:28:30 AM

Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:20:32 AM
I hope OSU hires Doug and their highs and lows are ridic high and low.  That will be fun.

It's not happening. Their version of gE is wanting him, but the tucks want Brad or Buzz. The AD made a point of saying that Doug has no coaching experience and 'that is huge' (his words)

Sheesh, AD's are the dumbest people in the world.

We need the riverside AD.  He'd get it done.  Super nice guy, KSU ties, does it the right way etc.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 11:00:03 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 10:29:48 AM
It would be pretty great to have buzz in conf.
yes, he seems like a slightly saner and soberer Mike Leach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Hearing OSU has offered Underwood. Friday deadline.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 21, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Hearing OSU has offered Underwood. Friday deadline.

rough ridin' Currie.  He's going to take it.  eff you, John Currie. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 11:06:11 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on March 21, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
Rally at Bramlage?!?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 21, 2016, 11:08:26 AM
God damnit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Let just hire Buzz instead
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 21, 2016, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: _33 on March 21, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
Rally at Bramlage?!?!

Because that worked so rough ridin' great last time. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 11:10:03 AM
What is the equivalent of gE for OSU sports? Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 21, 2016, 11:10:13 AM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoman on March 21, 2016, 11:10:42 AM
Quote from: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Hearing OSU has offered Underwood. Friday deadline.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 11:11:12 AM
If one was going to buy a torch or pitchfork, where would one buy those?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: doom on March 21, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Hearing OSU has offered Underwood. Friday deadline.

rough ridin' Currie.  He's going to take it.  eff you, John Currie.

Well, how exactly did you think you would end up as AD?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2016, 11:16:30 AM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on March 21, 2016, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 11:11:12 AM
If one was going to buy a torch or pitchfork, where would one buy those?

No clue on torches but pitchforks are readily available at Lowes or Home Depot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 11:11:12 AM
If one was going to buy a torch or pitchfork, where would one buy those?

Orscheln's.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 21, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Underwood to OSU.  Makes you want to pull out your pubics.  Bland average oscar is our lot.  Hope is still present but shaky. Curdog loves oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2016, 11:30:09 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 11:10:03 AM
What is the equivalent of gE for OSU sports? Asking for a friend.

I hope he isn't referring to pistols firing, that proprietor is a whiny bitch.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 12:24:21 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 11:10:03 AM
What is the equivalent of gE for OSU sports? Asking for a friend.

I hope he isn't referring to pistols firing, that proprietor is a whiny bitch.

I have no idea, just assuming it's their too-cool-for-school faction
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 21, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Hearing OSU has offered Underwood. Friday deadline.

Good for them. They deserve something nice since they gave Sean a shot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slackcat on March 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM
Hoping Brad takes the offer and kills it there, he deserves good things. :)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 01:18:37 PM

Quote from: slackcat on March 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM
Hoping Brad takes the offer and kills it there, he deserves good things. :)


Yep.  I hope he owns us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on March 21, 2016, 01:21:25 PM
Well first I hope he miraculously ends up here and kills it at KSU, but after that I hope those things that you guys said.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
I hope Pastrana finds adequate places in Stillwater to enjoy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CatsNShocks on March 21, 2016, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 01:18:37 PM

Quote from: slackcat on March 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM
Hoping Brad takes the offer and kills it there, he deserves good things. :)


Yep.  I hope he owns us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on March 21, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: CatsNShocks on March 21, 2016, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 01:18:37 PM

Quote from: slackcat on March 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM
Hoping Brad takes the offer and kills it there, he deserves good things. :)


Yep.  I hope he owns us.

he will.  the first day
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 21, 2016, 01:29:21 PM
Can't wait to see Brad clownsuit the ever living crap out of oscar.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
I won't be upset if Brad blows oscar up in Currie's face.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
I must be different than most of you, I'll never be able to watch that.  It will hurt too much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2016, 02:20:09 PM
At least we get to keep our free time guys. I've spent the oscar years catching up on my reading.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 02:21:19 PM
That has been nice.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 21, 2016, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
I won't be upset if Brad blows oscar up in Currie's face.

I'm going to admit that I like seeing your dark side.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum on March 21, 2016, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
I won't be upset if Brad blows oscar up in Currie's face.

I'm going to admit that I like seeing your dark side.

This decision seems so logical and easy. Yeah, there is some admitting he was wrong with hiring oscar, but he heals nearly any residue of that decision by hiring Brad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2016, 02:37:57 PM
Considering we all know how this will end, the best thing that could happen is when Currie has to fire oscar next year, he calls Brad at OSU and gets a very loud go eff yourself.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 21, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
Wouldn't the best scenario be if Brad does well at OSU and KSU just hired him away like OSU is some kind of a farm system for us? Would really depend on Brad bleeding purple.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 21, 2016, 02:38:42 PM
Sorry if luked, but....


Jaime Dixon to TCU  :surprised: :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 21, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
Wouldn't the best scenario be if Brad does well at OSU and KSU just hired him away like OSU is some kind of a farm system for us? Would really depend on Brad bleeding purple.

In your opinion I guess
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 21, 2016, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 21, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
Wouldn't the best scenario be if Brad does well at OSU and KSU just hired him away like OSU is some kind of a farm system for us? Would really depend on Brad bleeding purple.

I would rather have him right now. I like to imagine Brad's absolute floor being a year like we just had with Oscar, but Brad having a much higher ceiling than oscar  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: whodoneditdit on March 21, 2016, 02:42:31 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 21, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
I hope Pastrana finds adequate places in Stillwater to enjoy.


 :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
Currie was heavily involved in hiring a successful low major coach to revitalize a P5 school's basketball before.

I'm sure he hasn't forgotten.

Pearl went from Milwaukee to Tennessee and was wildly successful. Currie has gotten a ton of credit for being instrumental in the hire as an associate AD.

This one makes a lot more sense than that one.

He just has to admit he made a mistake.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 02:55:05 PM

Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 02:46:06 PM






He just has to admit he made a mistake.






Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2016, 02:56:25 PM
He doesn't need to admit he made a mistake tho. Just throw out the same ole deb p punchlines and look like a badass when you bring back home america's sweetheart.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 21, 2016, 02:57:08 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
Currie was heavily involved in hiring a successful low major coach to revitalize a P5 school's basketball before.

I'm sure he hasn't forgotten.

Pearl went from Milwaukee to Tennessee and was wildly successful. Currie has gotten a ton of credit for being instrumental in the hire as an associate AD.

This one makes a lot more sense than that one.

He just has to admit he made a mistake.

Why does he need admit a mistake. Move forward do what is right for program. This shouldn't be hard. eff do what is right for your career and don't place yourself in tough spot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 03:01:18 PM
I'm not saying he has to verbally admit a mistake. I'm just saying making the hire in the minds of many will be admitting a mistake, but still the right decision.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on March 21, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
I don't think _FAN is saying he would have to verbally admit a mistake, but that the act of firing oscar and hiring brad would, in and of itself, be an admission.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on March 21, 2016, 03:04:05 PM
Oh, you already defended yourself.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 21, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
I think _FAN's clear expectation of Currie verbally admitting a mistake is unlikely
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2016, 03:05:52 PM
got some idiots on this board if they really thought _BBB meant an actual apology
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:06:42 PM
I want him to apoligize explicitly to gE.com, and acknowledge picking coaches is within our skill set.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 21, 2016, 03:08:53 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 03:01:18 PM
I'm not saying he has to verbally admit a mistake. I'm just saying making the hire in the minds of many will be admitting a mistake, but still the right decision.

I don't think that is necessarily true, most hires don't pan out. I think about it is taking the right shots. Not walking the tight rope of perfection. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 21, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Dixon to TCU is a done deal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 21, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Dixon to TCU is a done deal.

Good hire from them. They wanted him bad last time and had to settle for Johnson.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2016, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 21, 2016, 03:05:52 PM
got some idiots on this board if they really thought _BBB meant an actual apology
Well, no one actually thought that, but he'll have to explain the move either way in the presser. We get what _fan was saying, I just think there's a way he can win the presser, without saying the basketball program was going in the dumpster (because of his dumbass hire). You could probably say it was an opportunity too good to miss out on and no one would gaf, and question why. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:17:26 PM
Is Pitt a job that Frank would want?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2016, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 21, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
Wouldn't the best scenario be if Brad does well at OSU and KSU just hired him away like OSU is some kind of a farm system for us? Would really depend on Brad bleeding purple.

Brad won't come here to coach a bunch of losers when he already has a bunch of winners in the same conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:17:26 PM
Is Pitt a job that Frank would want?

That would be great.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
I guess Sean Miller played there, guess we will see how strong the appeal of alma mater is.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 03:26:31 PM
TCU just showed it to be pretty strong
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
I guess Sean Miller played there, guess we will see how strong the appeal of alma mater is.

I'd guess they'll get the other Miller.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2016, 03:27:25 PM
It's neat watching schools care about basketball and doing things that prove it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2016, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2016, 03:27:25 PM
It's neat watching schools care about basketball and doing things that prove it.

and bringing back successful alums
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
Archie is intriguing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
We obviously love Brad but given what OSU's targets seemingly are it would be insane if they already offered him, which is to say I absolutely do not believe he has already been offered, there's literally no way. I do believe he's been contacted but he has not been offered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:32:46 PM
You see Dixon to TCU and start to think we could have made a run for Lon early in Wooldridge's tenure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 21, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
Great hire for TCU.  For as long as we have Weber, the only thing that will stop us from a 9th or 10th place finish every year would be conference expansion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 03:38:46 PM
Big 12 is going to be a monster in the short term.   
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 21, 2016, 03:41:51 PM
Pretty safe to say we have the worst coach in the big 12 now.  And, OSU has no coach.

Big 12 Coach rankings

1. Bill Self
2-8 The field
9. OSU vacancy
10. oscar Weber
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:32:46 PM
You see Dixon to TCU and start to think we could have made a run for Lon early in Wooldridge's tenure.
Not sure about that. TCU just upgraded their facilities and Dixon needed a reset. The only time Lon needed a reset was after he failed with the Hawks and I'm not sure how well received he would have been at that point. When UNLV hired him they were a long away from Tark the Shark, Lon was five coaches removed from their glory days.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.
I wouldn't put him anywhere near weberville, he had a legit great run with his own guys in year 5 when they went to the elite 8 with Blair, Young, Fields, etc.   He is more likely what Frank would of turned out to be had he stayed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:51:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:32:46 PM
You see Dixon to TCU and start to think we could have made a run for Lon early in Wooldridge's tenure.
Not sure about that. TCU just upgraded their facilities and Dixon needed a reset. The only time Lon needed a reset was after he failed with the Hawks and I'm not sure how well received he would have been at that point. When UNLV hired him they were a long away from Tark the Shark, Lon was five coaches removed from their glory days.

yeah I was thinking around the time he left the Hawks/Knicks. IIRC he was the Knicks interim when 93-52 happened.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.
I wouldn't put him anywhere near weberville, he had a legit great run with his own guys in year 5 when they went to the elite 8 with Blair, Young, Fields, etc.   He is more likely what Frank would of turned out to be had he stayed.

His last five seasons have been similar to what oscar's five seasons here will look like. You are correct he did much better earlier though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.

I'll be interested in what the eye on college basketball guys say about this hire because a month ago they said a coach with options should never take a job that is traditionally one of the worst jobs in any conference. Dixon is thought of as a good coach and TCU is clearly the worst job in the conference and one of the worst in the power five. He's got a ton of work but because he's an alum and they have no idea what success looks like he should get a ton of time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.
I wouldn't put him anywhere near weberville, he had a legit great run with his own guys in year 5 when they went to the elite 8 with Blair, Young, Fields, etc.   He is more likely what Frank would of turned out to be had he stayed.

His last five seasons have been similar to what oscar's five seasons here will look like. You are correct he did much better earlier though.

He won a CBI title!

2011–12   Pittsburgh   22–17   5–13   T–13th   CBI Champions
2012–13   Pittsburgh   24–9   12–6   4th   NCAA Second Round
2013–14   Pittsburgh   26–10   11–7   5th   NCAA Third Round
2014–15   Pittsburgh   19–15   8–10   T–9th   NIT First Round
2015–16   Pittsburgh   21–12   9–9   T–9th   NCAA First Round
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
Not their official twitter, but it looks to be happening soon

https://twitter.com/LumberjackFans/status/711923148921253888
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
Not their official twitter, but it looks to be happening soon

https://twitter.com/LumberjackFans/status/711923148921253888

Nope, not unless they're already gotten about three nos
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 04:00:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 21, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Dixon isn't successful. It's really hard to turn around a program and he inherited a successful program and turned it into Weberville.
I wouldn't put him anywhere near weberville, he had a legit great run with his own guys in year 5 when they went to the elite 8 with Blair, Young, Fields, etc.   He is more likely what Frank would of turned out to be had he stayed.

His last five seasons have been similar to what oscar's five seasons here will look like. You are correct he did much better earlier though.

He won a CBI title!

2011–12   Pittsburgh   22–17   5–13   T–13th   CBI Champions
2012–13   Pittsburgh   24–9   12–6   4th   NCAA Second Round
2013–14   Pittsburgh   26–10   11–7   5th   NCAA Third Round
2014–15   Pittsburgh   19–15   8–10   T–9th   NIT First Round
2015–16   Pittsburgh   21–12   9–9   T–9th   NCAA First Round

It's like they say there's a fine line between the NIT bubble and a CBI title.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 04:01:12 PM
Another interesting aspect of this is that Gottlieb and Underwood share the same agent, who is officially meeting with OSU this week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 04:01:12 PM
Another interesting aspect of this is that Gottlieb and Underwood share the same agent, who is officially meeting with OSU this week.
really? Do you know the name?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 04:01:12 PM
Another interesting aspect of this is that Gottlieb and Underwood share the same agent, who is officially meeting with OSU this week.

Holder had a press conference over the weekend that seemed like it's only purpose was to throw water on Gottlieb. He came right out and said what his criteria was and it was the old John Currie, needs previous experience, he also mentioned ability to recruit Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 04:16:21 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WildcatNation on March 21, 2016, 04:01:12 PM
Another interesting aspect of this is that Gottlieb and Underwood share the same agent, who is officially meeting with OSU this week.

Holder had a press conference over the weekend that seemed like it's only purpose was to throw water on Gottlieb. He came right out and said what his criteria was and it was the old John Currie, needs previous experience, he also mentioned ability to recruit Texas.

So, Rick Barnes?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 21, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?

2nd
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?

Obviously, yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 21, 2016, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?

I call Brad because I know Marshall ain't answering and if Buzz did answer, I would be concerned.  If Currie's goal is to keep people quiet about basketball and focus resources on football, Brad is the first call regardless.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 04:36:51 PM
I'd call him before Enfield
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 21, 2016, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?

I call Brad because I know Marshall ain't answering and if Buzz did answer, I would be concerned.  If Currie's goal is to keep people quiet about basketball and focus resources on football, Brad is the first call regardless.

They're all on your list because they're all answering your call. We can have a separate conversation about why these coaches are rumored for OSU but they wouldn't be for K-State, but as far as this conversation goes they're all answering the phone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 04:36:51 PM
I'd call him before Enfield

He essentially built one program and rebuilt a power five school on the complete opposite coast. Not many, if any, have done that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 21, 2016, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
You're the AD of any school, K-State included and your list looks like this:
Andy Einfield
Brad Underwood
Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall

Aren't you contacting Brad 4th, even at K-State?


Honestly:
Buzz (I have a weird hard on for him)
Andy (Dunk Fuckin' City, bros. COME ON)
Gregg (I mean, I don't really know)





then...
Brad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 04:47:17 PM
I'm going

3G
Enfield
Buzz
Brad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2016, 05:04:03 PM
3G
Brad
Enfield
Buzz
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 21, 2016, 05:05:15 PM
I think if you make the move this year, you do it with one call to Brad.  If you are making a move in future years, you can likely start the process earlier as it become apparent a change will be made.  I wouldn't call Buzz as his lateral moves would be concerning.  I'd probably call Brad 2nd but wouldn't argue with 3rd.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
Buzz reportedly took a pretty big pay cut going to VT and I think he wants a raise more than a big 12 job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2016, 05:40:41 PM

Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
Buzz reportedly took a pretty big pay cut going to VT and I think he wants a raise more than a big 12 job.

Buzz wanted out of Marquette.

http://painttouches.com/2014/03/23/greska-pulling-the-curtain-on-buzz-williams/

It will be interesting to see if he has interest in any of these other jobs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: manpow5 on March 21, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/712076149640327168
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
We obviously love Brad but given what OSU's targets seemingly are it would be insane if they already offered him, which is to say I absolutely do not believe he has already been offered, there's literally no way. I do believe he's been contacted but he has not been offered.

LO rough ridin' L
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on March 21, 2016, 07:44:09 PM
It's official, Brad to OSU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2016, 07:50:42 PM
At least it will be sort of fun having a Big 12 team to root for.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
Brad always kinda seemed like an OSU fan when he was on our bench.  like he wanted to coach them more than us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
Brad always kinda seemed like an OSU fan when he was on our bench.  like he wanted to coach them more than us.

I bet OSU won't have somebody on his ass all the time for standing up too much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 07:59:46 PM
the octogon of doom better really give brad the business if he has the balls to show his face in manhattan.   emaw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Currie is what we thought. 

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 21, 2016, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
Brad always kinda seemed like an OSU fan when he was on our bench.  like he wanted to coach them more than us.

Not from where we were sitting. 

@trim @mir @bbf$cat

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2016, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Johnny Wichita on March 21, 2016, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
Brad always kinda seemed like an OSU fan when he was on our bench.  like he wanted to coach them more than us.

Not from where we were sitting. 

@trim @mir @bbf$cat



:lol:

Brad and the 'boys are strange bedfellows brought together by Currie & Schulz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2016, 08:15:56 PM
his passion for the cowboys was obviously more apparent on the tv broadcast
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 21, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
_BBB, this would need your approval, but I am thinking another name change is in order: _FFF (FormerFanknownasFan or just effeffeff.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2016, 08:19:33 PM
Quote from: slobber on March 21, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
_BBB, this would need your approval, but I am thinking another name change is in order: _FFF (FormerFanknownasFan or just effeffeff.

No, that name's retired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 08:23:56 PM
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on-college-basketball/25526072/oklahoma-state-hires-stephen-f-austins-brad-underwood-to-coach-cowboys

Sometimes I hate being right more than I hate being wrong.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: Blackcats on March 21, 2016, 08:23:56 PM
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on-college-basketball/25526072/oklahoma-state-hires-stephen-f-austins-brad-underwood-to-coach-cowboys

Sometimes I hate being right more than I hate being wrong.

Self, calipari, and coach k said no so they went with option 4.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
So, a bunch of ppl have said we will be better next yr win wise. However three of our wins this year just hired substantially better coaches.  Thoughts on winning that extra 2-3 games next yr?  Not a great chance, imo

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
So, a bunch of ppl have said we will be better next yr win wise. However three of our wins this year just hired substantially better coaches.  Thoughts on winning that extra 2-3 games next yr?  Not a great chance, imo

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Next year isn't the problem, the league is going to be way down.  That bastard might sneak into the tourney and get re upped for another 5 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2016, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
So, a bunch of ppl have said we will be better next yr win wise. However three of our wins this year just hired substantially better coaches.  Thoughts on winning that extra 2-3 games next yr?  Not a great chance, imo

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I think TCU is a couple of years away from being miles better than us, but I may be wrong about that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 08:50:45 PM
I don't see a road win but that is no thin limb
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 08:53:23 PM
OSU TCU and TECH won't be any good next year.  Look at oscar Pearl, Frank Martin, Buzz Williams first years at their jobs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 08:55:02 PM
Maybe Fitz is right, and there is a chance oscar bolts for SLU later this week?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 08:53:23 PM
OSU TCU and TECH won't be any good next year.  Look at oscar Pearl, Frank Martin, Buzz Williams first years at their jobs.
Heck, look at Pearl and Frank's first two seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 08:55:52 PM
I do hope this gets us Buzz Williams, though. Man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 08:56:56 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 08:55:52 PM
I do hope this gets us Buzz Williams, though. Man.

He mocked WVU fans right to their faces on their home court.  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
I would recover quickly if this happened.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 08:58:22 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 08:56:56 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 08:55:52 PM
I do hope this gets us Buzz Williams, though. Man.

He mocked WVU fans right to their faces on their home court.  :love:
https://youtu.be/CJliqfmyFyc

:love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
I would recover quickly if this happened.

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Recover from what?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:01:29 PM
If Brad can keep Forte and Evans around he might have the best backcourt in the conference
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:03:09 PM
oh look, its pisschings
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:03:16 PM
Hopefully, no one from SLU catches wind about how both Illinois AND Kansas State fans all hate oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 09:08:34 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
I would recover quickly if this happened.

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Recover from what?
Disappointment

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:01:29 PM
If Brad can keep Forte and Evans around he might have the best backcourt in the conference

What the eff
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:14:55 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 09:08:34 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: CNS on March 21, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
I would recover quickly if this happened.

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Recover from what?
Disappointment

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I probably should have gone with Brad Who?  It was poorly delivered.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2016, 09:16:54 PM
No, it's me.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:20:09 PM
Honestly I will be over this by tomorrow. I haven't really cared on an emotional level since the La Salle game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:20:09 PM
Honestly I will be over this by tomorrow. I haven't really cared on an emotional level since the La Salle game.

You can lie to yourself, but not to us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:27:34 PM
I watched one game all the way through this year, because I won a seat to the KU game from my Fatty Fest Auction bidding. 

I won't watch next year either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
13 days until opening night.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:30:04 PM

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
13 days until opening night.

Right into football, right into The holidays, then a couple weeks of NCAA pools and back into baseball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
I didn't watch a single minute this season and my life is a lot better for it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
Spend some time reading and hitting up my fav coffee joint, some pizza a Kenos after, that's how you spend a winter in OP.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:30:04 PM

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
13 days until opening night.

Right into football, right into The holidays, then a couple weeks of NCAA pools and back into baseball.

Just as God intended
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:31:47 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
I didn't watch a single minute this season and my life is a lot better for it.

It's freedom!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:31:47 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
I didn't watch a single minute this season and my life is a lot better for it.

It's freedom!

The next step is to go Trim style and watch all of the games and mock the crap out of them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 21, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
He's got a daughter there. Also, probably most of So IL has no internet in their shacks and trailers, so there might be a population of people who still thinks he's good.

Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:03:16 PM
Hopefully, no one from SLU catches wind about how both Illinois AND Kansas State fans all hate oscar.

I'd say try it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
We obviously love Brad but given what OSU's targets seemingly are it would be insane if they already offered him, which is to say I absolutely do not believe he has already been offered, there's literally no way. I do believe he's been contacted but he has not been offered.

LO rough ridin' L

WOAH, a seemingly wrong opinion on a message board, so rough ridin' rare.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
Let's go get Jerrod Hasse or CB McGrath.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 21, 2016, 09:44:50 PM
Rex Walters just got fired I think


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:01:29 PM
If Brad can keep Forte and Evans around he might have the best backcourt in the conference

What the eff
big 12 teams play games that don't involve ksu and they are usually more entertaining
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2016, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: Cire on March 21, 2016, 09:44:50 PM
Rex Walters just got fired I think

Sundance! No!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 21, 2016, 09:01:29 PM
If Brad can keep Forte and Evans around he might have the best backcourt in the conference

What the eff
big 12 teams play games that don't involve ksu and they are usually more entertaining

I meant the back court thing, but you are understandably in a bad state of mind at the moment so I'll just chalk it up to that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cDubya on March 21, 2016, 09:51:05 PM
T's and P's, guys...  :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
I hope Huggins has a heart attack and you end up with Chris lowery
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 21, 2016, 10:04:51 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:31:47 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
I didn't watch a single minute this season and my life is a lot better for it.

It's freedom!

The next step is to go Trim style and watch all of the games and mock the crap out of them

it's freedom, really
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2016, 10:12:17 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 21, 2016, 10:04:51 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM

Quote from: Pete on March 21, 2016, 09:31:47 PM

Quote from: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
I didn't watch a single minute this season and my life is a lot better for it.

It's freedom!

The next step is to go Trim style and watch all of the games and mock the crap out of them

it's freedom, really

You just gotta get your mind open to a whole new way of enjoying basketball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cDubya on March 21, 2016, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
I hope Huggins has a heart attack and you end up with Chris lowery

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 21, 2016, 10:52:43 PM
We really need to change the title of this thread.  Cats won't be featured for a while.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Ptolemy on March 22, 2016, 12:03:10 AM
At this point, with no hope for a future for KState basketball, my only drive is to make sure that EVERYONE finally learns what I learned after the Kentucky game.  And once we miss the NCAA for a third straight season, when they are sure oscar needs to go, I'm going to ask,

"WHY NOW?"

What happened to convince you finally that KState basketball is heading in the wrong direction? Because I really want to know...
 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 22, 2016, 02:18:10 AM
Quote from: manpow5 on March 21, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/712076149640327168

'grats to brad. guy busted his ass, paid his dues, and made it happen. respect. i look forward to him whipping our cats and our rhetorically-bereft trogolydicatlly-inclined coach 2x a year, minimum.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 22, 2016, 02:25:35 AM
the real question i have is does this mean they will un-ban me on gpc. will have to tweet at fitz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on March 22, 2016, 09:09:42 AM
DAT GOOD HIRE THO

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15035722/jamie-dixon-leaving-pittsburgh-panthers-take-tcu-horned-frogs-job (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15035722/jamie-dixon-leaving-pittsburgh-panthers-take-tcu-horned-frogs-job)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2016, 09:11:12 AM
Quote from: TCUHornedFrog on March 22, 2016, 09:09:42 AM
DAT GOOD HIRE THO

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15035722/jamie-dixon-leaving-pittsburgh-panthers-take-tcu-horned-frogs-job (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15035722/jamie-dixon-leaving-pittsburgh-panthers-take-tcu-horned-frogs-job)

when was the last time dixon brought in a burger boy?  i'm guessing never.  hire grade: c
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2016, 09:35:47 PM
Mick Cronin playing footsie with UNLV, could help keep this thing spinning.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 25, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
Floor Burns is taking the Stanford gig.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15064911/stanford-cardinal-expected-hire-jerod-haase-head-basketball-coach (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15064911/stanford-cardinal-expected-hire-jerod-haase-head-basketball-coach)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Weird hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2016, 11:11:06 AM
I guess if the bland fruit of the Duke tree fails to satisfy then try the milquetoast fruit of the Carolina
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 25, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Weird hire.

How so? He's a California guy who improved his win total every year at UAB. Won an NCAA game last year and went 26-7 this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2016, 12:10:07 PM

Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Weird hire.

How so? He's a California guy who improved his win total every year at UAB. Won an NCAA game last year and went 26-7 this year.

Great pedigree too.  And, he got great grades in college and grad school.  I was in a graduate class with him, he was a very serious student.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 25, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
the bozeman coaching tree grows another limb.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:41:15 PM
Quote from: sys on March 25, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
the bozeman coaching tree grows another limb.
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2016, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Weird hire.

How so? He's a California guy who improved his win total every year at UAB. Won an NCAA game last year and went 26-7 this year.

It's kinda weird that the University of San Francisco just canned Rex Walters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 25, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Weird hire.

How so? He's a California guy who improved his win total every year at UAB. Won an NCAA game last year and went 26-7 this year.

Pretty far removed from California, although I'm not sure if/how he recruited there at KU, UNC, and UAB. Also I realize that his win total at UAB has improved but to me he just doesn't seem dynamic in any way. Weird was probably the wrong terminology, should have went with underwhelming. I guess that falls in line with what Stanford's hiring practices for these positions seem to be though. It's Stanford and Stanford is amazing, I expect them to make these big splash hires and that's not what they do.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
ya they're one school that can continually roll the dice with no real repercussions
also as has been pointed out, he's an academic and fits what they are doing out there
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 25, 2016, 01:02:51 PM
I am in the fine state of Arkansas as we speak. Rumors that Mike Anderson (on hot seat entering 2016) may be headed back to UAB
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 25, 2016, 01:02:51 PM
I am in the fine state of Arkansas as we speak. Rumors that Mike Anderson (on hot seat entering 2016) may be headed back to UAB

Haith reset!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 25, 2016, 01:27:18 PM
Arkansas needs oscar Weber. So does UAB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 25, 2016, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: bones129 on March 25, 2016, 01:27:18 PM
Arkansas needs oscar Weber. So does UAB.

I floated the Oscar mention at a meeting and was almost thrown across the room by an Arky
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 25, 2016, 03:59:47 PM
Oscar to Georgia Tech!


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 25, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
I hope Huggins has a heart attack and you end up with Chris lowery
This was just hurtful and quite frankly mean
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Gooch on March 25, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
I hope Huggins has a heart attack and you end up with Chris lowery
This was just hurtful and quite frankly mean

I was in a b(r)ad place, I should probably apologize for my actions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 25, 2016, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Gooch on March 25, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
I hope Huggins has a heart attack and you end up with Chris lowery
This was just hurtful and quite frankly mean

I was in a b(r)ad place, I should probably apologize for my actions.
I'm sure Cdubya knows you were just lashing out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
Brian Gregory getting fired is interesting. They were very bad for 4 and a half years, then they turned it around the second half of this season playing the best basketball they have played under him. They beat the hell out of South Carolina earlier this week. He must have had a NCAA or bust edict which is odd for a program that had no post season under that coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
Brian Gregory getting fired is interesting. They were very bad for 4 and a half years, then they turned it around the second half of this season playing the best basketball they have played under him. They beat the hell out of South Carolina earlier this week. He must have had a NCAA or bust edict which is odd for a program that had no post season under that coach.

Was it NIT title or bust? Why play in the thing in the first place, you could have fired him and had another week to look for a coach. Or maybe they just let him coach and were looking behind the scenes anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
Gregory was kind of a strange hire. His teams had finished 11th, 7th, 7th, 2nd, 7th, and 8th in the A10 before he got hired by GT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:13:26 PM
Twitter saying that Stallings is a strong candidate at Pitt. Interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2016, 09:15:01 PM
#Martin4Vandy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:13:26 PM
Twitter saying that Stallings is a strong candidate at Pitt. Interesting.
Coaching searches don't make much sense to me any more.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2016, 09:24:39 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:13:26 PM
Twitter saying that Stallings is a strong candidate at Pitt. Interesting.
Coaching searches don't make much sense to me any more.

It's all about resetting clocks on guaranteed contracts
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2016, 09:25:38 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 26, 2016, 09:24:39 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:13:26 PM
Twitter saying that Stallings is a strong candidate at Pitt. Interesting.
Coaching searches don't make much sense to me any more.

It's all about resetting clocks on guaranteed contracts
I understand why Stallings would be interested, not why Pitt would.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
Oh.  Good question.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Pitt's AD didn't exactly fight to keep Dixon, I am sure he wants to win the presser
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 26, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Pitt's AD didn't exactly fight to keep Dixon, I am sure he wants to win the presser

He also hired Stallings at Vandy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2016, 10:10:49 PM
Stallings is garbage. 

The results of most coaching searches now terrify me for K-State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 27, 2016, 12:50:31 AM
Vandy oscar has a nice ring to it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: joda on March 27, 2016, 12:50:31 AM
Vandy oscar has a nice ring to it

Pretty much.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4699921-kevin-stallings-pittsburgh-hire-jamie-dixon-coach-record?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Except he didn't implode and get fired, but if he hadn't snuck in this year he might have.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:23:42 AM
Meanwhile, our old friend...

https://twitter.com/ChrisDokish
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:25:59 AM
http://wkrn.com/2015/02/27/vanderbilts-men-basketball-coach-apologizes-for-cursing-at-player/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 26, 2016, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 26, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Pitt's AD didn't exactly fight to keep Dixon, I am sure he wants to win the presser

He also hired Stallings at Vandy.

My mistake here. Pitt's AD is Scott Barnes, who just took over last April. He hired a search firm headed by Todd Turner, former AD at Vandy who hired Stallings to coach there. Turner recommended Stalling to Barnes via his search firm.

I guess be careful of your new AD and the search firm they hire (or don't hire) is the real lesson here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:47:03 AM
Oh man, this makes it even better.

https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/714099693014401025

https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/714100188751740930
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 27, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:47:03 AM
Oh man, this makes it even better.

https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/714099693014401025

https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/714100188751740930

See, this is where NCAA transfer rules are cruel.  That kid (and the rest of them at Pitt) should be allowed to transfer freely if their coach departs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:08:03 AM
 NCAA basketball is turning into the NFL when it comes to coaching searches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
wonder if pitt reached out to oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
Weber4vandy


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
wonder if pitt reached out to oscar
It wouldn't be that surprising at this point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
wonder if pitt reached out to oscar
It wouldn't be that surprising at this point.

he received offers from Oklahoma, Oregon and Wake Forest while at Illinois. Didn't Marquette go after him a few years ago?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2016, 10:40:43 AM
LOL at the search firm being the former AD that hired Stallings.  That is unreal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoman on March 27, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
wonder if pitt reached out to oscar
It wouldn't be that surprising at this point.

he received offers from Oklahoma, Oregon and Wake Forest while at Illinois. Didn't Marquette go after him a few years ago?

No, well at least not seriously. We  (universal gE we) drummed that up on Twitter. We created the smoke there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: yoman on March 27, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 27, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: jasn88cubs on March 27, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
wonder if pitt reached out to oscar
It wouldn't be that surprising at this point.

he received offers from Oklahoma, Oregon and Wake Forest while at Illinois. Didn't Marquette go after him a few years ago?

No, well at least not seriously. We  (universal gE we) drummed that up on Twitter. We created the smoke there.
A Milwaukee paper mentioned him as a possibility but that doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 27, 2016, 11:17:17 AM
This is a fun re-read: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=31708.0
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 27, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
Stallings to Pitt or Weber to KState. Which is the greater capitulation to mediocrity?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Groce to Illinois is the worst IMO
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 27, 2016, 12:35:11 PM
Quote from: rob mccolley on March 27, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
Stallings to Pitt or Weber to KState. Which is the greater capitulation to mediocrity?

If I'm picking a coach and it's between oscar and Stallings I think I actually choose oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 27, 2016, 01:53:11 PM
Vandy needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 27, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Picking a known loser has to be worse than picking an unknown.

Quote from: wetwillie on March 27, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Groce to Illinois is the worst IMO

I'm curious, though. Reading goEMAW suggests there's a large group of "tucks" who really liked Weber from the get-go, and still do. Is there a Pitt fan in the known universe who's not shaking his fist at this hire?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2016, 02:37:39 PM
it's not like pitt was going to be good anyway


^actual quote from pitt ad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 27, 2016, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: rob mccolley on March 27, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
I'm curious, though. Reading goEMAW suggests there's a large group of "tucks" who really liked Weber from the get-go.

no one liked weber before he was hired.  kstate fans just have an amazing capacity to accept and affirm authority.  we'd make great nazis.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2016, 03:06:34 PM
"We're going to build a shitty basketball program and make KSU pay for it!"

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 27, 2016, 03:11:40 PM

Quote from: sys on March 27, 2016, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: rob mccolley on March 27, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
I'm curious, though. Reading goEMAW suggests there's a large group of "tucks" who really liked Weber from the get-go.

no one liked weber before he was hired.  kstate fans just have an amazing capacity to accept and affirm authority.  we'd make great nazis.

Astute observation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 27, 2016, 09:47:03 AM
Oh man, this makes it even better.

https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/714099693014401025

https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/714100188751740930
yeah, Stallings is an bad person of the first class and poor Jeter was coming here before Currie went dumpster diving.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 27, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
man, that really sucks for that guy.  i hope the ncaa lets him transfer wo penalty if he chooses to.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 27, 2016, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: sys on March 27, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
man, that really sucks for that guy.  i hope the ncaa lets him transfer wo penalty if he chooses to.

lol @ the ncaa caring about any of that
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 12:21:12 AM
Chris Beard to UNLV
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 12:21:12 AM
Chris Beard to UNLV
Was he any good at his d2 schools?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 07:27:48 AM
He went 28-6 and made the D2 sweet 16 last year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 08:54:57 AM
 You all need to join Billikens boards by the dozen, and pine for SLU to hire Brooth. Remember to choose usernames like ArchFan, Spoon Hour and Papist so they think you're real.

Weber's eldest is a pharmacist there.  Employ a reuniting family angle.

Now get to work.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on March 28, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 08:54:57 AM
You all need to join Billikens boards by the dozen, and pine for SLU to hire Brooth. Remember to choose usernames like ArchFan, Spoon Hour and Papist so they think you're real.

Weber's eldest is a pharmacist there.  Employ a reuniting family angle.

Now get to work.
His alma mater's job is also open...Milwaukee-Wisconsin?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Who would we get this late in the game tho? Hensen? It would probably be another crap hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 09:05:06 AM
Quote from: O-town Kat on March 28, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
His alma mater's job is also open...Milwaukee-Wisconsin?

Yeah, do that too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2016, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Who would we get this late in the game tho? Hensen? It would probably be another crap hire.

I would take whatever is behind door #2 over oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Who would we get this late in the game tho? Hensen? It would probably be another crap hire.

Douglas Gottlieb
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 28, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Who would we get this late in the game tho? Hensen? It would probably be another crap hire.

Douglas Gottlieb

Would still take
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 28, 2016, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Who would we get this late in the game tho? Hensen? It would probably be another crap hire.

Douglas Gottlieb

Would still take
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 09:13:37 AM
 Steve Henson. He'll be free next week.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 09:15:13 AM
March 28 is not late.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
Rumors that Roy is retiring after this year.  If that happens, there will be other major dominoes going.  It's not too late at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
I would root for UNC to snag Self.  Would be a great meltdown
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on March 28, 2016, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
I would root for UNC to snag Self.  Would be a great meltdown

The meltdown would be glorious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
I would root for UNC to snag Self. 
That move makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 09:51:33 AM
The UNC/Roy Williams coaching tree isn't that great. The only current head coaches right now that warrant any consideration are King Rice and Floor Burns.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 09:51:33 AM
The UNC/Roy Williams coaching tree isn't that great. The only current head coaches right now that warrant any consideration are King Rice and Floor Burns.

Brad Stevens!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/714459579447259136

 :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 10:58:50 AM
https://twitter.com/TheLoboLair/status/714284717642686465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 10:59:47 AM
 :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:02:02 AM
:surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
If no one else is around, Weber's replacement may have to be hired by interim whatever, Pat Bosco.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
If no one else is around, Weber's replacement may have to be hired by interim whatever, Pat Bosco.

Welcome back, Frank Martin!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:10:38 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
If no one else is around, Weber's replacement may have to be hired by interim whatever, Pat Bosco.

Welcome back, Frank Martin!

would take, 100%
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
 :driving: :ksu: :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
frank would not compete with the current crop of b12 coaches
the idea of getting rid of oscar is not to get worse regardless of how annoying the idiot is
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2016, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 28, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 28, 2016, 09:51:33 AM
The UNC/Roy Williams coaching tree isn't that great. The only current head coaches right now that warrant any consideration are King Rice and Floor Burns.

Brad Stevens!

I love folks that assume he'd come back.  He's doing great in the NBA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2016, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: rob mccolley on March 28, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
I would root for UNC to snag Self. 
That move makes zero sense.

Well yeah but a guy can dream
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:27:26 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
frank would not compete with the current crop of b12 coaches

he'd be fine
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:32:23 AM
no, he really wouldn't be.
the days of pullen, clemente, and curt are gone.  let them go. 
he couldn't even get his team into the ncaa's this season with the benefit of playing in the sec and with the easiest rotation of the sec schedule that he will ever have.  he would be far underwater in this conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 28, 2016, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:27:26 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
frank would not compete with the current crop of b12 coaches

he'd be fine

No, he wouldn't.  He's a rough ridin' idiot who is in over his head
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2016, 11:34:14 AM
It'd be great if Frank came back and gave a speech about doing so because of the people and needing to calm the waters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:32:23 AM
no, he really wouldn't be.
the days of pullen, clemente, and curt are gone.  let them go. 
he couldn't even get his team into the ncaa's this season with the benefit of playing in the sec and with the easiest rotation of the sec schedule that he will ever have.  he would be far underwater in this conference.

He'd be starting with a better roster
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:32:23 AM
no, he really wouldn't be.
the days of pullen, clemente, and curt are gone.  let them go. 
he couldn't even get his team into the ncaa's this season with the benefit of playing in the sec and with the easiest rotation of the sec schedule that he will ever have.  he would be far underwater in this conference.

He'd be starting with a better roster

(thanks oscar)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 11:38:17 AM
nah, he'd frank half of the team.  these guys have been playing for oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2016, 12:07:37 PM
Id prefer Frank get fired, round up GRCOAT 2.0 with his bud dalonte and then come back in 2018
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
Ok, Sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 01:20:10 PM
SLU fans sure seem to want oscar.

http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26846&page=35
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: AbeFroman on March 28, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Frank would absolutely ruin Wade's head. It'd be Spradling all over again but would make for great BBSing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 01:23:37 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on March 28, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Frank would absolutely ruin Wade's head. It'd be Spradling all over again but would make for great BBSing

because they're both white
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2016, 01:28:09 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 01:23:37 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on March 28, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Frank would absolutely ruin Wade's head. It'd be Spradling all over again but would make for great BBSing

because they're both white

Yes.  They aren't used to being spoke to by Latinos in that fashion, Michigancat. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kim carnes on March 28, 2016, 01:38:17 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on March 28, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Frank would absolutely ruin Wade's head. It'd be Spradling all over again but would make for great BBSing

wade would never play a game under frank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on March 28, 2016, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 01:20:10 PM
SLU fans sure seem to want oscar.

http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26846&page=35

SLU fans sound like idiots, but such lovable idiots that may take oscar away from us. :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 01:42:25 PM
is there anything at this point that would stop SLU from hiring oscar? doesn't look like it if you ask me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 01:42:25 PM
is there anything at this point that would stop SLU from hiring oscar? doesn't look like it if you ask me.

Contract extension and a pay raise. Currie already lost one coach to a lesser program, he'll be damned if it happens again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2016, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on March 28, 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 01:42:25 PM
is there anything at this point that would stop SLU from hiring oscar? doesn't look like it if you ask me.

Contract extension and a pay raise. Currie already lost one coach to a lesser program, he'll be damned if it happens again

Would it surprise you?  With the Underwood ship having sailed, I am thinking Currie would double down on Weber long before he lets the job open up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2016, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2016, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on March 28, 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 01:42:25 PM
is there anything at this point that would stop SLU from hiring oscar? doesn't look like it if you ask me.

Contract extension and a pay raise. Currie already lost one coach to a lesser program, he'll be damned if it happens again

Would it surprise you?  With the Underwood ship having sailed, I am thinking Currie would double down on Weber long before he lets the job open up
that would be amazing. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 02:00:11 PM
In all seriousness when I see Pitt hiring Kevin Stallings I'm scared shitless about what a coaching search would look like for us. (KK said this first)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 28, 2016, 02:10:17 PM
Interesting that oscar is even an option. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 02:12:55 PM
we need to pay eddie fogler's search firm to a-list oscar asap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2016, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Washington State
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2016, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Washington State
Hmmm
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 02:25:38 PM
Whoa, did not realize Washington State hired the recently fired Ernie Kent. How embarrassing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 28, 2016, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 02:25:38 PM
Whoa, did not realize Washington State hired the recently fired Ernie Kent. How embarrassing.

I didn't even realize the Ken Bone era was over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2016, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 02:00:11 PM
In all seriousness when I see Pitt hiring Kevin Stallings I'm scared shitless about what a coaching search would look like for us. (KK said this first)

I have been wincing/hoping/praying for come home Brent/Brad style saviors since Nebraska football fired Bo/hired Mike Riley.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?
I'm sure his reputation with the NCAA was a factor. But yeah, I think an NCAA Rooney rule would be good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?

He is one of the best available for ksu and their ilk. We would be lucky to have him. The NCAA thing wasn't really that bad if you look at it. He just lied about phone calls, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2016, 03:17:56 PM
I think NCAA even changed the rule and what he did is no longer illegal
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 28, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?

He is one of the best available for ksu and their ilk. We would be lucky to have him. The NCAA thing wasn't really that bad if you look at it. He just lied about phone calls, right?

Yeah, most of what he did is now legal.

Kelvin was 1B beside Brad's 1A when I had a silly sliver of hope that a change might come this year. 

The biggest knock on Kelvin is his age, he's 60 now. If he has a good year next year and takes Houston to the NCAAs, someone will go after him though. I'd be happy for it to be us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
Basically an innocent man
Quote
The rules Sampson and his staff broke related to phone calls to recruits that violated NCAA rules or restrictions from previous NCAA violations Sampson committed at Oklahoma. Most of those rules have been since been eliminated. Phone contact with recruits is barely restricted.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2013/11/26/kelvin-sampson-former-indiana-hoosiers-coach-ncaa-penalty-ends/3745133/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2013/11/26/kelvin-sampson-former-indiana-hoosiers-coach-ncaa-penalty-ends/3745133/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Woogy on March 28, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Anyway - half the Final Four this year is there despite open academic fraud.  Why bother?

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 28, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 28, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?

He is one of the best available for ksu and their ilk. We would be lucky to have him. The NCAA thing wasn't really that bad if you look at it. He just lied about phone calls, right?

Yeah, most of what he did is now legal.

Kelvin was 1B beside Brad's 1A when I had a silly sliver of hope that a change might come this year. 

The biggest knock on Kelvin is his age, he's 60 now. If he has a good year next year and takes Houston to the NCAAs, someone will go after him though. I'd be happy for it to be us.

I'd take 5 years of Kelvin Sampson in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 04:43:23 PM
the ncaa seems to hate being lied/deceived to more than actually doing something against the rules.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 04:57:35 PM

We really should be cheating our asses of then trade out our Always Reppin tourney shirts, next year, with Always Cheatin.  Should make things fine.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 28, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Which lucky school will realize Kelvin is coaching at Houston?

Well it seems the two big 12 jobs were the best fits and they went after other, less qualified, coaches first. CBB Rooney Rule?

He is one of the best available for ksu and their ilk. We would be lucky to have him. The NCAA thing wasn't really that bad if you look at it. He just lied about phone calls, right?

Yeah, most of what he did is now legal.

Kelvin was 1B beside Brad's 1A when I had a silly sliver of hope that a change might come this year. 

The biggest knock on Kelvin is his age, he's 60 now. If he has a good year next year and takes Houston to the NCAAs, someone will go after him though. I'd be happy for it to be us.

His age is fantastic for KSU - might keep the riff raff away.  Plus, most of our fan base has/wears denim shirts - this seems like a natural fit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 04:43:23 PM
the ncaa seems to hate being lied/deceived to more than actually doing something against the rules.

Just like actual people
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 29, 2016, 10:42:50 AM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 10:58:50 AM
https://twitter.com/TheLoboLair/status/714284717642686465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Please, dear Lord!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 11:17:29 AM
you people that still want to fire weber annoy me.  the last thing i want is to start a new clock on some random new coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
So you just want to hang with oscar until the next "perfect" replacement comes along?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 29, 2016, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: memphis on March 29, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
So you just want to hang with oscar until the next "perfect" replacement comes along?

I think sys is still planning a Machiavellian way to get Brad

Brad Underwood, via the methods of Frank Underwood
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
So you just want to hang with oscar until the next "perfect" replacement comes along?

i would prefer to root against weber/currie kstate than for random coach/currie kstate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2016, 11:58:32 AM
We may not get a choice in the matter, looks like oscar is working on the SLU job. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2016, 12:04:35 PM
Then Lowry would simply be promoted to HC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: mocat on March 29, 2016, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: memphis on March 29, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
So you just want to hang with oscar until the next "perfect" replacement comes along?

I think sys is still planning a Machiavellian way to get Brad

Brad Underwood, via the methods of Frank Underwood

I've heard sys clearly re: eliminating Currie.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: sys on March 29, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: tdaver on March 29, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
So you just want to hang with oscar until the next "perfect" replacement comes along?

i would prefer to root against weber/currie kstate than for random coach/currie kstate.

So you want to hang with oscar until he buries Currie.  Got it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 29, 2016, 11:58:32 AM
We may not get a choice in the matter, looks like oscar is working on the SLU job.

a vile rumor, weber loves kstate too much.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 29, 2016, 12:49:26 PM
if oscar did leave, would be the perfect opportunity to go get Dougie Basketball
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on March 29, 2016, 12:54:14 PM
I am more than a bit disappointed that Derick Hammes's name isn't mentioned in any of this. And before some wise ass says something about 'wrong sport', let me remind you that Derick Hammes is in the Kansas State High School Athletic Association HOF for .....basketball!!


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 29, 2016, 01:46:56 PM
never heard of him (her?)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
Dear sweet 8lb 6oz baby jesus...please let the USPS lose Brad's paperwork. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 09:51:51 PM
travis ford to slu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 30, 2016, 12:12:38 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 09:51:51 PM
travis ford to slu

This just means oscar needs to find another place to go.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 30, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
guys I'm worried oscar isn't trying to find another place at all. :(
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
oscar couldn't even beat Travis Ford out for a job. What a rough ridin' loser.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 31, 2016, 02:00:18 PM
Henson supposedly to UTSA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 31, 2016, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 31, 2016, 02:00:18 PM
Henson supposedly to UTSA

Yup. And Lew Hill is going to UT-RGV. Both have been with Lon since he started at UNLV.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 04, 2016, 11:51:01 AM
Upgrade from Stallings
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 04, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
I would love to coach Vandy.  Baseline benches  :love:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 06, 2016, 08:55:35 AM
Quote from: doom on April 04, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
I would love to coach Vandy.  Baseline benches  :love:

One of the bigger home court advantages in all of sports.  Also, kudos to a mid-level program losing a coach and still upgrading.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 06, 2016, 06:32:46 PM
Looks like we are in the market for a new assistant coach.  #deebrown4ksu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2016, 07:01:49 PM
puff your chests out, boys.  we had a coach good enough to be hired by baylor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on April 06, 2016, 08:48:05 PM
Good man, but didn't reel in any Tx big fishies.  Who is Jarret Allen's coach?  Hire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on April 06, 2016, 10:09:49 PM
Jarrett Allen is the 5-star cenrer recruit from Austin.  He put the Cats in the final 8 of his choices.  Still undecided.  His hs coach is Steve Mulqueen, and has good bb credentials.  Let's pull a manning like ku.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 06, 2016, 10:18:17 PM
This gives oscar a face-saving route to get the correct AB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 07, 2016, 12:08:55 PM
Epidemic
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: memphis on April 07, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
Does this shake up recruiting?

Lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2016, 12:45:54 PM
Was he really a K-State Guy though?  Lately, I don't really trust myself to make that call, so any insight into his would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 07, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
I remember seeing him at breakfast with oscar and some 'cruits at whatever that losery breakfast place is over in Candlewood.  The look on his face as oscar squeaked away down at the end of the table...I bet he spread his resume around the whole country
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 08, 2016, 09:48:09 AM
Pastner to Georgia Tech. Memphis might send them a thank you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2016, 09:49:56 AM
Marshall to Memphis rumblings. I don't understand why he'd see that job more enticing than freaking Texas?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2016, 09:54:52 AM
Who are some names for that Memphis job?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2016, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: memphis on April 08, 2016, 09:52:36 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 08, 2016, 09:49:56 AM
Marshall to Memphis rumblings. I don't understand why he'd see that job more enticing than freaking Texas?

That's assuming UT even called once they contacted Shaka
Yeah, I guess i've just heard his name come up a lot for bigger gigs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2016, 10:13:53 AM
Memphis would be surprising.  Marshall may have though he would get a better offer before Van Vleet and Baker graduated but is now looking to jump while his stock is still high.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
He can come to the cats
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2016, 10:58:56 AM
Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on April 08, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
He can come to the cats

If I learned one thing this year, it was that a mid-major coach with a history of NCAA tournaments cannot come to the cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 08, 2016, 02:21:38 PM
Headline:   Georgia Tech hiring Josh Pastner really might make sense, if he grows up

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4701284-josh-pastner-georgia-tech-hire-coach-memphis-yellow-jackets-tigers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on April 08, 2016, 10:13:12 PM
La Tech women's team needs a coach I hear  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 08, 2016, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: PIPE on April 08, 2016, 10:13:12 PM
La Tech women's team needs a coach I hear  :facepalm:

La Tech's women's team needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 13, 2016, 12:20:31 PM
Tubby Smith to Memphis?

 :surprised:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/aac/2016/04/13/memphis-tubby-smith-coach-texas-tech-college-basketball/82984406/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/aac/2016/04/13/memphis-tubby-smith-coach-texas-tech-college-basketball/82984406/)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
Texas Tech should hire oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2016, 07:43:22 PM
Tubby to Memphis is like the greatest thing ever for oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 13, 2016, 08:45:51 PM
Tubby to Memphis is the biggest win for oscar since the loss vs UNC.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on April 13, 2016, 08:47:20 PM
 Our local 4H needs a county leader.  Put a green jacket on oscar, and let him do his happy and tippsy leprechaun routine.  Tubby Memphis means.a.rise to 8th in the league.  Rising without even sitting on the pot crappin
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 14, 2016, 01:13:28 AM
If Tubby flees, Texas Tech needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 14, 2016, 01:32:22 AM
Quote from: renocat on April 13, 2016, 08:47:20 PM
a.rise to 8th in the league
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2016, 07:51:39 AM
Progress. 

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2016, 08:48:22 AM
Tubby gone.   #bruceforTTU
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 09:14:10 AM
good for him, no one deserves lubbock
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2016, 09:36:14 AM
Rumblings Chris Beard is their guy.  Sounds weird but would be pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2016, 09:47:02 AM
Rumblings that the AD put out for a few TX names and nothing came back.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on April 14, 2016, 09:53:56 AM
#Bruce4UNLV


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2016, 10:52:23 AM
This is tough on Tech. Its somewhat late for a change and lots of good candidates are already gone now. I'm sure they thought when they hired him that they were getting a good coach in his early 60s, if he built it back up he would be there to stay. Then he gets them to the tournament in only 3 seasons and leaves because its easier to win at Memphis, even though he's 64.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 14, 2016, 11:21:05 AM
I am sure Tubby has told TT Saul is their guy #family
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2016, 11:29:17 AM
NCAA BB is the new NFL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
never been a fan of texas tech, they seem like a little brother school like iowa state.  they don't bring anything to the conference, like iowa state, and are generally just a drain on the big 12's resources.  would rather we just cut bait and let them join the mountain west or some other place where they better fit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 12:08:29 PM
tubby's getting paid, 5 years, $15M
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2016, 12:14:01 PM
Minnesota must be sick right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
All announcers talked about this year was how great Tubby and the guy from TCU were.  Guess they really aren't the best at judging coaching talent
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 12:22:37 PM
They sure think the world of oscar tho
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
All announcers talked about this year was how great Tubby and the guy from TCU were.  Guess they really aren't the best at judging coaching talent

This post is very confusing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CatMission on April 14, 2016, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
Texas Tech should hire oscar.
If Kirby wants to prove his loyalty to K-State, he should do this immediately.

Dr. Sheahon is working on destroying KU from the inside, now Kirby can do his part.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 14, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
Quote from: CatMission on April 14, 2016, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
Texas Tech should hire oscar.
If Kirby wants to prove his loyalty to K-State, he should do this immediately.

Dr. Sheahon is working on destroying KU from the inside, now Kirby can do his part.

oscar would be perfect for TT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 14, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
Quote from: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
All announcers talked about this year was how great Tubby and the guy from TCU were.  Guess they really aren't the best at judging coaching talent

This post is very confusing.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
to be the best at judging coaching talent, not only would they have been right about tubby, but also trent johnson- but they were WRONG about the trentster so they're not the best at judging talent amirite TBT?

 :cool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
/thread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 15, 2016, 12:35:19 AM
They have at least one (and possibly another) Freddy's in Lubbock!

oscar, this is your destiny. This is what you were born to achieve. TTU is for you.

http://freddysusa.com/store/lubbock-19th-st-tx/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksu101 on April 15, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
Go get it oscar!  We are all rooting for you!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on April 15, 2016, 01:19:52 PM
Chris Beard to Tech
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 15, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on April 15, 2016, 01:19:52 PM
Chris Beard to Tech

UNLV needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 15, 2016, 02:40:59 PM
god bless chris beard for making this socially acceptable to other big 12 coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2016, 02:50:14 PM
#bruce4UNLV
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on April 15, 2016, 04:06:31 PM
UNLV rolls craps.  Not.good news 4 our efforts 2  be mid-level Big 12 champions.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 15, 2016, 04:31:46 PM
Quote from: memphis on April 15, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
Apparently George Karl has interest in UNLV   :surprised:

:frown:

Quote from: Trim on September 16, 2015, 03:21:36 PM
I've been keeping an eye on Sacramento and hoping that some unthinkable controversy w/Boogie and their crazy-ass owner leaves George Karl semi-disgraced and looking for work.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 15, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
Tech appears to be a "win at all costs," program. Good for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on April 16, 2016, 01:27:15 AM
Tech is Tech. That's the way it is and the way it will always be.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on April 17, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Who finna be your new assistant coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 17, 2016, 01:36:20 PM

Quote from: rob mccolley on April 17, 2016, 12:52:30 PM
Who finna be your new assistant coach?

Someone who is absolutely desperate for a D1 job. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
rholheder?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 17, 2016, 02:10:39 PM

Quote from: pissclams on April 17, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
rholheder?

He does do things the right way, and is a K-State guy.  Great suggestion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on April 17, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
Need a bigs coach though, right? Not that Vulture isn't totally rough ridin', as far as I know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 17, 2016, 07:16:16 PM
Once the white tiger proves his chops this summer, he is a shoo in.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 18, 2016, 09:48:36 AM
lol, i don't even know, did we lose a coach? which one?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/722139498671255552
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2016, 03:16:47 PM
what the eff, oscar, you suck.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2016, 03:18:24 PM
He wants a Texas guy so he calls Rodney?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 18, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
market research (twitter intern / software) showed positive reaction to TBT
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
I love Rod, but godamnit!

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 18, 2016, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: Tobias on April 18, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
market research (twitter intern / software) showed positive reaction to TBT
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 19, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
i enjoy that i still don't know which coach we lost. only that hot rod or tx is generally part of the search. alvin brooks?? i'm really not even sure who he is. but he has a tx name.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on April 19, 2016, 02:24:26 AM
In turn,  I like it that you Emaws have been so emotionally abused about your ex-basketball program that some of you don't even know the names of your three assistants.

Quote from: pvegs on April 19, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
i enjoy that i still don't know which coach we lost. only that hot rod or tx is generally part of the search. alvin brooks?? i'm really not even sure who he is. but he has a tx name.

I continue to feel your pain.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on April 19, 2016, 03:44:01 AM
Is Spradling the next call?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 19, 2016, 06:18:33 AM
Quote from: BackPayne on April 19, 2016, 03:44:01 AM
Is Spradling the next call?

He does have coaching experience.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on April 19, 2016, 07:29:44 AM
Quote from: BackPayne on April 19, 2016, 03:44:01 AM
Is Spradling the next call?

Kenn State has their guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWforever on April 19, 2016, 11:11:06 AM
Whats Big Gip doing.  he is from Texas correct? Bring some toughness back
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 19, 2016, 12:07:54 PM
Is Cartier on the staff yet or no? No, because he'd mush oscar so hard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 19, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: EMAWforever on April 19, 2016, 11:11:06 AM
Whats Big Gip doing.  he is from Texas correct? Bring some toughness back
They couldn't afford him. He's making bank overseas. It actually would have been a raise for McGruder. The D-League pays almost as worse as the WNBA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
oscar wants guys that know his system and don't know enough else to disagree or potentially improve the team.  He had an interview on KMAN yesterday were he basically said as much.  Fresh ideas and innovation need not apply.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 19, 2016, 12:57:03 PM
there's probably a job posted on craigslist for this
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
On the plus side, this hire is going to be hilarious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: eastcat on April 19, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
Aren't we competing with the JCHS women's BB coach opening?  :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 19, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
On the plus side, this hire is going to be hilarious.
Yes. Instead of a carousel, this will be more of a coin operated toddler ride outside of the local Ray's Applemarket.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 19, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
On the plus side, this hire is going to be hilarious.
Yes. Instead of a carousel, this will be more of a coin operated toddler ride outside of the local Ray's Applemarket.

It's like a broken coin-op toddler ride where the parent puts the kid on the ride, inserts the quarter, then nothing happens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 19, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
On the plus side, this hire is going to be hilarious.
Yes. Instead of a carousel, this will be more of a coin operated toddler ride outside of the local Ray's Applemarket.

It's like a broken coin-op toddler ride where the parent puts the kid on the ride, inserts the quarter, then nothing happens.
I was thinking it would be more fun than that, but you are probably right. We will think it has the potential for fun, but then when it actually happens, it will be sucksville USA.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 19, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
On the plus side, this hire is going to be hilarious.
Yes. Instead of a carousel, this will be more of a coin operated toddler ride outside of the local Ray's Applemarket.

It's like a broken coin-op toddler ride where the parent puts the kid on the ride, inserts the quarter, then nothing happens.
I was thinking it would be more fun than that, but you are probably right. We will think it has the potential for fun, but then when it actually happens, it will be sucksville USA.

We will be sitting on that god damned broken horse crying while oscar unsuccessfully tries to get his quarter back from the store manager.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 20, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
It's MI3
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2016, 03:00:47 PM
For real or parody post?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 20, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: rob mccolley on April 19, 2016, 02:24:26 AM
In turn,  I like it that you Emaws have been so emotionally abused about your ex-basketball program that some of you don't even know the names of your three assistants.

Quote from: pvegs on April 19, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
i enjoy that i still don't know which coach we lost. only that hot rod or tx is generally part of the search. alvin brooks?? i'm really not even sure who he is. but he has a tx name.

I continue to feel your pain.

I couldn't tell you our 2015-16 Starting 5.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 22, 2016, 03:34:08 AM
Quote from: nicname on April 20, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: rob mccolley on April 19, 2016, 02:24:26 AM
In turn,  I like it that you Emaws have been so emotionally abused about your ex-basketball program that some of you don't even know the names of your three assistants.

Quote from: pvegs on April 19, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
i enjoy that i still don't know which coach we lost. only that hot rod or tx is generally part of the search. alvin brooks?? i'm really not even sure who he is. but he has a tx name.

I continue to feel your pain.

I couldn't tell you our 2015-16 Starting 5.

I even googled it and still have no idea. That's a great metaphor for Cat hoops present day.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 16, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 20, 2016, 11:56:23 PM
Even as sanitized as it's become, I might have to fly back for nutPAK if everything stays as is.

I'm not flying back, but it's Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on July 08, 2016, 11:08:46 AM
Brown out, Jank in at SMU. Very strange timing considering July is the biggest recruiting month of the year.

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article/report-larry-brown-resigning-after-4-seasons-smus-coach (http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article/report-larry-brown-resigning-after-4-seasons-smus-coach)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 09, 2016, 08:01:55 AM
Man, SMU is going to suck slightly more, but still do well in there mid major conference
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on July 09, 2016, 12:43:28 PM
Hopefully Jank can shut up all the haters and come home soon!


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 11, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
If Weber misses the tourney this year and gets fired and Hoiberg's insane roster he is putting together gets him canned from Chicago, would love to see us bring that dude in. I just want fun basketball to watch, even if it means playing no defense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on July 11, 2016, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 11, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
If Weber misses the tourney this year and gets fired and Hoiberg's insane roster he is putting together gets him canned from Chicago, would love to see us bring that dude in. I just want fun basketball to watch, even if it means playing no defense.

if that happened oh man lol cyclone fans would all kill themselves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on July 11, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
Hmm, does Hoi have similar feelings for Jaime Pollard as Brad does for our AD?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on July 11, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
but I still think Chicago turns Wade into Love at some point
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on July 11, 2016, 05:09:21 PM
Hoiberg LOL's at even the thought of taking over the KSU basketball program. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on July 12, 2016, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on July 11, 2016, 05:09:21 PM
Hoiberg LOL's at even the thought of taking over the KSU basketball program.

word?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on July 14, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
Post this article: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/17020423/stability-rankings-big-12-basketball-coaches
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: That_Guy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:27 PM
Quote from: Trim on July 14, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
Post this article: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/17020423/stability-rankings-big-12-basketball-coaches

Well, at least we don't need ESPN insider to know here oscar would rank!


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2017, 10:58:49 PM
Lorenzo Romar is being retained by Washington :ROFL: and we're complaining about oscar :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: Washington clearly gives no effs about basketball.

I would say he should take a job reset, rumored for the Mizzou job, but it seems obvious that he has the Washington job for life.

For this who don't know this will be Washington's 6th straight year without a NCAA bid and they finished dead ass last in the Pac 12 with two whole wins. They are the last P5 team in kenpom behind such powerhouses like Penn, Troy, Lipscomb, and Trim's favorite program, Grand Canyon U.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 06, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
He's got a grcoat adjace coming next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2017, 11:23:50 PM
the thread title got me momentarily pumped. :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
And yeah, UW is getting their Beasley
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 06, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
He's got a grcoat adjace coming next year.

Quote from: michigancat on March 06, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
And yeah, UW is getting their Beasley

Did I just fall asleep and wake up in April of 2016? He just had his worst season with a top two draft pick. Two years ago he had three top 60 recruits, not counting the guy who will be a top two pick in three months and has done dick since landing any of these dudes. They're going to get Porter next season, end up with a fourth place finish in the Pac 12, a nine seed, one and done in the tournament then Porter will be gone and UW will still have Romar. YAY :party:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 07, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 06, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
He's got a grcoat adjace coming next year.

Quote from: michigancat on March 06, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
And yeah, UW is getting their Beasley

Did I just fall asleep and wake up in April of 2016? He just had his worst season with a top two draft pick. Two years ago he had three top 60 recruits, not counting the guy who will be a top two pick in three months and has done dick since landing any of these dudes. They're going to get Porter next season, end up with a fourth place finish in the Pac 12, a nine seed, one and done in the tournament then Porter will be gone and UW will still have Romar. YAY :party:


UW wants Romar gone or at least the people I talk to. Porter has four little brothers, one is a junior in a high school and is more of a true post. He is fighting for that fifth star. The Porter gravy train has just started.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
I saw somewhere Romar also has a $3.5 million buyout.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
This is a great class and don't the porters have another kid coming up?

https://washington.rivals.com/commitments/basketball/2017
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 07, 2017, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 07, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 06, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
He's got a grcoat adjace coming next year.

Quote from: michigancat on March 06, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
And yeah, UW is getting their Beasley

Did I just fall asleep and wake up in April of 2016? He just had his worst season with a top two draft pick. Two years ago he had three top 60 recruits, not counting the guy who will be a top two pick in three months and has done dick since landing any of these dudes. They're going to get Porter next season, end up with a fourth place finish in the Pac 12, a nine seed, one and done in the tournament then Porter will be gone and UW will still have Romar. YAY :party:


UW wants Romar gone or at least the people I talk to. Porter has four little brothers, one is a junior in a high school and is more of a true post. He is fighting for that fifth star. The Porter gravy train has just started.

Yeah, they've had good recruits lately and sucked, but next year will be the first year of the players that are part of the moapd (mother of all package deals) that they're bigly invested in with both money and effort. 

They gave the unqualified Porter dad an assistant coach job (I think the highest-paying one on their staff).  The whole family moved up, and Brandon Roy was installed as head coach of one of the shittiest high school basketball teams in the city.  All the home-schooled Porter kids signed up to play there, and then other good players transferred, and the team just wrapped up an undefeated state 'ship, with them all saying they're committed to Romar, not UW.  The 2nd oldest kid who is theoretically a "junior" is probably gonna be home-schooled extra so he can go to UW next year w/his older brother.  As mcat pointed out, Romar's got a ridic buyout - especially when you view it as pay this in exchange for losing your grcoata - and I think even the lol assistant coach dad has a contract that would have to get bought out.  And Roy probably has some sort of promise to move up to UW soon.

You can def suspect that this is a poor strategy, but the costs are pretty much sunk at this point, so why not take a shot?

There's some small similarities in the whole thing to us hiring Frank.  It pretty much had to be done for the recruits, and there wasn't some alternative coach out there that would be worth blowing the whole thing up for.  IIRC, we then finished 4th, got an 11 seed, WHIPPED USC'S ASS before bowing out, and then still had Frank.  But in our case, it certainly was worth it as it snowballed into the best KSU basketball in decades.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
I saw somewhere Romar also has a $3.5 million buyout.

Wow :eek: good for him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
I saw somewhere Romar also has a $3.5 million buyout.

Wow :eek: good for him

This says it may be closer to $5 million!

http://washington.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Lorenzo-Romar-returning-next-season-to-Washington--51642447
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 07, 2017, 10:56:57 AM
great agent
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 08, 2017, 02:54:01 PM
Local talk Monday was that UW money people would come up w/the money, but only if they had an awesome coach already lined up to come in.  Notwithstanding how that would even work practically, then you'd be looking at buying out the current staff AND paying a shitload to a new elite coach.

Worlds colliding, there was a segment yesterday on all this w/guest Doug Gottlieb, who at about 5 minutes in took a shot at Wichita compared to Seattle.

https://www.iheart.com/show/139-Softy-Interviews/?episode_id=28031391
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 05:10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/842135311484370945
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 15, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
Cuonzo to Mizzou - 7 years at 21+ million.  Goodness.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 05:10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/842135311484370945

In your fat face MIR!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
didn't think cuonzo made much sense until i saw he was adding michael porter sr as a coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
didn't think cuonzo made much sense until i saw he was adding michael porter sr as a coach

Yea that's what they are paying 21 million for.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:08:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
didn't think cuonzo made much sense until i saw he was adding michael porter sr as a coach

Yea that's what they are paying 21 million for.

yeah that or they were wowed by his 2010 CIT title
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
also never go to hardcorehusky.com. i wanted to see who they think will replace ro and they have a thread about kelsey plum's pubes 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
Quote from: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
didn't think cuonzo made much sense until i saw he was adding michael porter sr as a coach

whoa
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 15, 2017, 07:19:32 PM
Very interesting that these two moves happened on the same day. This will be fun to watch.

Quote from: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 05:10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/842135311484370945

In your fat face MIR!

You better put that in trims and rustys faces, I was mocking UW when they said they were going to keep him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2017, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 15, 2017, 07:19:32 PM
Very interesting that these two moves happened on the same day. This will be fun to watch.

Quote from: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 05:10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/842135311484370945

In your fat face MIR!

You better put that in trims and rustys faces, I was mocking UW when they said they were going to keep him.
Well it was obviously all about Porter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 15, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
So, I am behind on this...Porter must have bailed on Romar to head to Mizzou, so Washington canned him (because they only let him stick around for Porter)?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 15, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
So, I am behind on this...Porter must have bailed on Romar to head to Mizzou, so Washington canned him (because they only let him stick around for Porter)?

It's maybe the most compelling cbb story since GRCOAT
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bradleigh on March 15, 2017, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 15, 2017, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 15, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
So, I am behind on this...Porter must have bailed on Romar to head to Mizzou, so Washington canned him (because they only let him stick around for Porter)?

It's maybe the most compelling cbb story since GRCOAT

Uh...  Are we talking about Mizzou?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 15, 2017, 10:30:05 PM
nah porter jr was 100 on team ro. think ro is his godfather or something and porter jr played for brandon roy at nathan hale hs. uw just decided to blow it up and martin swooped in
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
Ah, OK.  Just wondered if there was something more linking those events.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2017, 10:37:32 AM
If those two things are coincidences, that'd be wild, especially given UW already said they'd keep Romar. What has changed between last week and this week other than Cuonzo getting the Mizzou job and hiring Porters dad? Porter Jr. might be 100 on team ro but I'm guessing he's 1000 team dad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2017, 10:47:20 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 16, 2017, 10:37:32 AM
If those two things are coincidences, that'd be wild, especially given UW already said they'd keep Romar. What has changed between last week and this week other than Cuonzo getting the Mizzou job and hiring Porters dad? Porter Jr. might be 100 on team ro but I'm guessing he's 1000 team dad.

Yeah, these connections aren't hard to make.

Porter SR is playing the game right though.

Quote
sked about the prospect of his son playing at Mizzou, Porter Sr. said last year, "We’ll see. You know kids, they get enamored with the cute chick at the moment in terms of programs. Some programs that are really making noise right now have his attention."

Porter JR is too.

https://twitter.com/TheMPJ1/status/842145237174706177
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 16, 2017, 11:16:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/842398451258277889
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 16, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
the timing of this  :lol:

https://twitter.com/insidethehall/status/842409369450999808
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: Original oscar #1 Fan on March 16, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
the timing of this  :lol:

https://twitter.com/insidethehall/status/842409369450999808

this was pretty lol http://deadspin.com/indianas-season-ends-quietly-after-dumb-nit-stadium-con-1793283796
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 16, 2017, 11:47:34 AM
Tom!

really surprised he didn't get it done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2017, 12:07:14 AM
Quote from: Joker on March 16, 2017, 11:16:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/842398451258277889

Jordan's as trustworthy as his dad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 17, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
With Cuonzo in Columbia, does our Saint Louis recruiting pipeline dry up soon? Or do we stay true to Saint Lou and just bring in its version of Michael Orris, while the studs go to MU? Or, are hard chargin' oscar's connects so strong that we can maintain?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben ji on March 17, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on March 17, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
With Cuonzo in Columbia, does our Saint Louis recruiting pipeline dry up soon? Or do we stay true to Saint Lou and just bring in its version of Michael Orris, while the studs go to MU? Or, are hard chargin' oscar's connects so strong that we can maintain?

I think its lowery that has the STL connections....but yeah, probably not good for the katz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 17, 2017, 09:17:18 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 17, 2017, 12:07:14 AM
Quote from: Joker on March 16, 2017, 11:16:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/842398451258277889

Jordan's as trustworthy as his dad.

I'm sure the coffee business provides a lot of interesting sources.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
I am very jealous of Mizzou at the moment.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 17, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
I am very jealous of Mizzou at the moment.

Things I never thought I'd see Pete post on this message board for 100 Alex.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 17, 2017, 09:34:35 AM
Mizzou will be a lot better than they are now, but I don't think they are going to start competing for SEC championships or anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
I know!  It's so Mizzou tho, to have football nose dive just as basketball becomes promising again.  The SEC will be such a miserable place for them. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: Joker on March 17, 2017, 09:17:18 AM
I'm sure the coffee business provides a lot of interesting sources.

https://twitter.com/csh_uw/status/842421235652874240

https://twitter.com/alexSSN/status/842437264630206464
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
MIR, you might be entertained by these.  This was the local station that's most down w/UW on Wednesday afternoon as it was all unraveling; first Cuonzo and how that could affect the Porters, then the firing, then Porter officially being at mizzou, and then Romar himself called in and then the AD spoke.  The common tone was that he probably deserved to be fired but holy crap we just paid another $3.5 million to within hours have everything we invested in the past few years go to rough ridin' missouri.

https://www.iheart.com/show/139-Dave-Softy-Mahler/?episode_id=28045672

https://www.iheart.com/show/139-Dave-Softy-Mahler/?episode_id=28045671

https://www.iheart.com/show/139-Dave-Softy-Mahler/?episode_id=28045661
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 17, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on March 17, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
With Cuonzo in Columbia, does our Saint Louis recruiting pipeline dry up soon? Or do we stay true to Saint Lou and just bring in its version of Michael Orris, while the studs go to MU? Or, are hard chargin' oscar's connects so strong that we can maintain?
We still have our beachhead in western Kansas although Hutch Juco may give us stiff competition.  Its sad to see us slip below Tigerpooh.  I would say Tech, TCU and Okiewood have passed us.  If oscar stays, he better get some flash meat with his past two recruiting spots.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
He's trolling right? Holy crap if there's something to this

https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/842884928253509632
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 17, 2017, 08:34:23 PM
https://twitter.com/NCState/status/842893728876564480
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 17, 2017, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 17, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
He's trolling right? Holy crap if there's something to this

https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/842884928253509632
his escape clause to the deal he made with LaDevil
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 17, 2017, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 17, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
He's trolling right? Holy crap if there's something to this

https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/842884928253509632

Skipping town before NCAA hammer comes down?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
Is this actually going to happen
https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/842925198777159681
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fun muffin on March 18, 2017, 12:40:53 AM
Keatts to NC State
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 18, 2017, 01:04:19 AM
Quote from: fun muffin on March 18, 2017, 12:40:53 AM
Keatts to NC State

Thanks Luke Muffins.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on March 18, 2017, 06:57:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 17, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
Is this actually going to happen
https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/842925198777159681
Yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
Now that Iowa State is done I'll mention again that there are rumors that Prohm may pull an Underwood and dip to LSU. It's pretty clear they're looking for someone who was working this weekend.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
Now that Iowa State is done I'll mention again that there are rumors that Prohm may pull an Underwood and dip to LSU. It's pretty clear they're looking for someone who was working this weekend.
Interesting. Prohm would be kinda dumb to make that move. Would ISU try to bring back Fred?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2017, 10:51:18 PM
Yeah, ISU is a great job. They never fire anybody and it doesn't seem to be that hard to win there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2017, 11:01:18 PM
Man oh man Fred crawling back to Aimes would be amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
That would be interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
Man, LSU is a garbage-ass job. I'd find it really hard to believe that Prohm would take a step down like that unless he has some sort of a beef with Pollard, which seems unlikely given that Pollard's doesn't actively pick fights with his own coaches like Currie did.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2017, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Original oscar #1 Fan on March 18, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
Man, LSU is a garbage-ass job. I'd find it really hard to believe that Prohm would take a step down like that unless he has some sort of a beef with Pollard, which seems unlikely given that Pollard's doesn't actively pick fights with his own coaches like Currie did.

LSU had their own version of Beasley and couldn't make the tournament. Jones is pretty bad though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 18, 2017, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 18, 2017, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Original oscar #1 Fan on March 18, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
Man, LSU is a garbage-ass job. I'd find it really hard to believe that Prohm would take a step down like that unless he has some sort of a beef with Pollard, which seems unlikely given that Pollard's doesn't actively pick fights with his own coaches like Currie did.

LSU had their own version of Beasley and couldn't make the tournament. Jones is pretty bad though.

Oh yeah, Johnny Jones was lol worthy. But their fans and admin are just like 75% of every other SEC school in that they just do not care about the sport whatsoever. Sure, football has their athletic department awash in money, but I doubt ISU would have a problem matching them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2017, 11:17:16 PM
Jones stole Tony Mitchell and Shawn Forrest from us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2017, 11:46:11 PM
Iowa State is going to be terrible next year, no transfer coming to save their asses. They have nearly nothing coming back, only returning 25% of their minutes and 18% of their scoring. You guys are wrong about the fans, they won't be nearly as patient with basketball, they've been good nearly consistently for 30 years.

Other than the roster if Prohm leaves for LSU it's worth noting that he's lived in the south his entire life. He also is only making $1.5 million, LSU has that in their couch. I don't know if it's gotten any better but remember even under Hoiberg the basketball team had to sleep in a hotel ballroom because the AD wouldn't spring for rooms when they had travel problems in the tournament a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
they're senior heavy, for sure.  but some of their underclassmen look fine.  and they apparently have a couple of four stars signed.  maybe they still need to do well in the spring, and maybe that's a bit of a red flag, but i don't see why he'd run from that.  not to lsu.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2017, 02:32:29 AM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
they're senior heavy, for sure.  but some of their underclassmen look fine.  and they apparently have a couple of four stars signed.  maybe they still need to do well in the spring, and maybe that's a bit of a red flag, but i don't see why he'd run from that.  not to lsu.

Quote from: sys on March 18, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
the lesson people should take from this is that it's stupid to try to underpay coaches.

2nd in the state
8th in the conference
around 40th nationally
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KITNfury on March 19, 2017, 07:24:45 AM
So Underwood to Illinois
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 19, 2017, 08:23:58 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2017, 02:32:29 AM
Quote from: sys on March 19, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
they're senior heavy, for sure.  but some of their underclassmen look fine.  and they apparently have a couple of four stars signed.  maybe they still need to do well in the spring, and maybe that's a bit of a red flag, but i don't see why he'd run from that.  not to lsu.

Quote from: sys on March 18, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
the lesson people should take from this is that it's stupid to try to underpay coaches.

2nd in the state
8th in the conference
around 40th nationally

Edit: also what MIR said about the hotel cheapskate thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2017, 09:33:26 AM
Yes lacey, I just said that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 19, 2017, 09:44:28 AM
How are these other schools underpaying good coaches yet we are overpaying for a bad coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 10:14:48 AM
LSU has infinitely more tradition and history than flood aggie, they're just in some epic slumber ala kstate 1992-2007. Plus, winning the SEC is far easier than the big 12
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 19, 2017, 10:41:41 AM
mike hopkins to the malamutes. apparently were close to getting tony bennett instead...

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/report-washington-will-hire-syracuses-mike-hopkins/?utm_content=buffer59956&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=owned_buffer_tw_m
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2017, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 10:14:48 AM
LSU has infinitely more tradition and history than flood aggie, they're just in some epic slumber ala kstate 1992-2007. Plus, winning the SEC is far easier than the big 12

Florida or Kentucky have won the league the last 8 years. It might be easier, but unseating one of those 2 looks just as difficult unseating the one team in our league for the near future.

Also, 2nd in the SEC hasn't gotten better than a 4 seed in that span. Meanwhile in the Big 12 has had 1/3/4, 1/2/3/4, 2/3/3/3, 2/3, 1/4, 2/2/3 seeds the last 6 seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2017, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 19, 2017, 10:41:41 AM
mike hopkins to the malamutes
huh. you'd think a west coast guy would be especially important at Washington
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 19, 2017, 11:17:09 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 19, 2017, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 19, 2017, 10:41:41 AM
mike hopkins to the malamutes
huh. you'd think a west coast guy would be especially important at Washington

yeah it's weird. hopkins' has never coached anywhere but syracuse
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 19, 2017, 11:21:10 AM
Just saw that UW hired Syracuse's hciw. Is that not a bit short sighted as he will probably head back when Boeheim leaves? Or possibly risky for him if he flounders at UW?

I know you can't turn down the money. I wouldn't. Just my two thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 19, 2017, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: SdK on March 19, 2017, 11:21:10 AM
Just saw that UW hired Syracuse's hciw. Is that not a bit short sighted as he will probably head back when Boeheim leaves? Or possibly risky for him if he flounders at UW?

I know you can't turn down the money. I wouldn't. Just my two thoughts on the matter.
Remember Mushy leaving Texas after Mack decided to stay another year?  If you are perpetually "in waiting" I could see the move.  This seems like it would be a big enough program that he wouldn't necessary bolt back, I would for sure agree if he went mid major.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 19, 2017, 12:21:02 PM
It might be a little risky, but still worthwhile.  If Muschamp had been successful at Florida, Texas probably would have made a big push for him when Mack got forced out.  But even if that happened, that means you have a much more attractive program (with more active donors/fan support) for a new head coach to take over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 19, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
If oSu hires Doug Gottlieb after hiring Brad Underwood it would make me furious with Currie all over again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2017, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 19, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
If oSu hires Doug Gottlieb after hiring Brad Underwood it would make me furious with Currie all over again.


I welcome the chance for goEMAW to prove Currie wrong in yet another way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 19, 2017, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 10:14:48 AM
LSU has infinitely more tradition and history than flood aggie, they're just in some epic slumber ala kstate 1992-2007. Plus, winning the SEC is far easier than the big 12

Florida or Kentucky have won the league the last 8 years. It might be easier, but unseating one of those 2 looks just as difficult unseating the one team in our league for the near future.

Also, 2nd in the SEC hasn't gotten better than a 4 seed in that span. Meanwhile in the Big 12 has had 1/3/4, 1/2/3/4, 2/3/3/3, 2/3, 1/4, 2/2/3 seeds the last 6 seasons.

Yeah, it's easier to win in the sec. It's like playing in the nortard every year, except you can drive not more than 100 miles from campus to recruit and still rake talent.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Teddy_Westside on March 19, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
When was the last time a HCIW (FB or BB) actually went on to be the HC at the school that made him HCIW?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 19, 2017, 02:22:00 PM
jank did at smu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2017, 02:26:16 PM
Jimbo Fisher
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2017, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
Yeah, it's easier to win in the sec. It's like playing in the nortard every year, except you can drive not more than 100 miles from campus to recruit and still rake talent.

I think you missed my point. It may be a bit easier to win in the SEC, but no one is really taking advantage of it. Also, "winning" in the SEC doesn't mean as much, if you finish 2nd in the league you are looking at a 4 seed at best. Finish 3rd and maybe you will get a 7. Too much of the league is no good and even with these hotbeds of talent, few coaches can take advantage of it and it continually remain average at best. Of course, perhaps the benefit is most schools don't care and Georgia will keep a guy like Fox for 8 seasons and Ole Miss will keep Kennedy for 11. Simply put, if you aren't going to coach at Kentucky or Florida the current make up of the SEC shows that you will be choosing a mediocre basketball school to be a mediocre coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2017, 02:42:06 PM
if it were easier to recruit and win in the sec, people would be recruiting better and winning more there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 19, 2017, 02:46:48 PM
Did Fan just call Martin mediocre? Jk bud. I get your point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2017, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: SdK on March 19, 2017, 02:46:48 PM
Did Fan just call Martin mediocre? Jk bud. I get your point.

He kind of has been, but the last two seasons he's been pretty good. Will be interesting to see if he can put together a run of NCAAs now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 19, 2017, 03:32:35 PM
It will be interesting. If UK can hold on and have 3 SEC teams in the sweet sixteen that would be nice.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2017, 03:58:44 PM
frank is losing his best player (who grew up in usc's backyard) to the nba.  next year will be very telling.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2017, 04:13:05 PM
is thornwell an nba player?  i never thought he was; watched at least parts of around 10 usc games this year.  his stats suggest he might have a chance, high orating to go with high usage, 83% ft, 39% 3%, 6'5".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
the only other player they lose is notice, who is no loss.  dunno what newcomers they have coming in, but they look like they should maintain at about this level.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 19, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
He is talking about pj dozier - 5 star soph that avg 15/5/3 but is kind of the cherry on top to the team imo.  Frank does have a top 100 ish combo with a damn impressive offer list signed. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 19, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
He is talking about pj dozier - 5 star soph that avg 15/5/3 but is kind of the cherry on top to the team imo.

that dude is not an nba player.  maybe he leaves anyways, i dunno, but he's not gonna play in the nba next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/843593407658426372


wow.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 19, 2017, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/843593407658426372


wow.

Can't trust Schultz. Guy is a total liar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 19, 2017, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
Yeah, it's easier to win in the sec. It's like playing in the nortard every year, except you can drive not more than 100 miles from campus to recruit and still rake talent.

I think you missed my point. It may be a bit easier to win in the SEC, but no one is really taking advantage of it. Also, "winning" in the SEC doesn't mean as much, if you finish 2nd in the league you are looking at a 4 seed at best. Finish 3rd and maybe you will get a 7. Too much of the league is no good and even with these hotbeds of talent, few coaches can take advantage of it and it continually remain average at best. Of course, perhaps the benefit is most schools don't care and Georgia will keep a guy like Fox for 8 seasons and Ole Miss will keep Kennedy for 11. Simply put, if you aren't going to coach at Kentucky or Florida the current make up of the SEC shows that you will be choosing a mediocre basketball school to be a mediocre coach.

Right, a modicum of effort and you win 20+ games per season. Easy street
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
Does Indiana know Bryce Alford is a senior?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slackcat on March 19, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
And we still have #2millbruce.  On a per-win basis he is still the best bargain in the P5 market.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2017, 10:05:33 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 19, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
He is talking about pj dozier - 5 star soph that avg 15/5/3 but is kind of the cherry on top to the team imo.  Frank does have a top 100 ish combo with a damn impressive offer list signed. 
i was talking about thornwell
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 19, 2017, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: slackcat on March 19, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
And we still have #2millbruce.  On a per-win basis he is still the best bargain in the P5 market.

I'm ready to pay up for an upgrade.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2017, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: Joker on March 19, 2017, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/843593407658426372


wow.

Can't trust Schultz. Guy is a total liar.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/843595473462214656

https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/843664660754845696
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 20, 2017, 01:39:15 PM
was wondering last night why steve robinson has never tried head coaching again.  i guess the top assistant at unc is better than the main gig at a lot of places.  b/w him and cb, roy has been able to keep things pretty stable on his bench for ever a decade.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Heard on local radio the new uw coach described as someone whom you could ask everyone around college hoops about and not hear a negative thing said about him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 21, 2017, 11:11:02 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 21, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Heard on local radio the new uw coach described as someone whom you could ask everyone around college hoops about and not hear a negative thing said about him.

wonder what his staff will look like given his lack of ties to the region. brandon roy would be fun  :excited:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2017, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 21, 2017, 11:11:02 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 21, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Heard on local radio the new uw coach described as someone whom you could ask everyone around college hoops about and not hear a negative thing said about him.

wonder what his staff will look like given his lack of ties to the region. brandon roy would be fun  :excited:

Roy's kind of mumped in how this all played out.  Radio says they're getting this guy:

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jason_hart_846535.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
I feel like Oklahoma St is going to hire Frank Martin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
I feel like Oklahoma St is going to hire Frank Martin.
:barf
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2017, 07:45:09 PM
Cows!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 21, 2017, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 21, 2017, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: pvegs on March 21, 2017, 11:11:02 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 21, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Heard on local radio the new uw coach described as someone whom you could ask everyone around college hoops about and not hear a negative thing said about him.

wonder what his staff will look like given his lack of ties to the region. brandon roy would be fun  :excited:

Roy's kind of mumped in how this all played out.  Radio says they're getting this guy:

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jason_hart_846535.html

not bad. i kind sorta actually remember him as a cuse player. i always dreamed abt isaiah thomas as coach. i mean 10 years down the line when he retires. he was basically the husky pullen when i was at uw.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 21, 2017, 08:58:11 PM
I really don't see Frank leaving South Carolina. I think as long as the fans and the athletic department embrace him there, he is going to be there for a long time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 22, 2017, 07:37:55 AM
Larinaga (?) at Miami is like 70 years old, this run and beating Duke will make him the first choice by what fans the U has
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2017, 08:52:27 AM
Oh yea Frank and the U are meant for each other.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on March 22, 2017, 08:56:33 AM
Quote
I feel like Oklahoma St is going to hire Frank Martin.

Frank isn't going anywhere, SC was smart enough to pay him well, give him a long term contract, and a prohibitive buyout.  I think it's >$4 million buyout this year, at least $3.5 million.

Okie State has the $$$ to do it, but Frank has a pretty good situation in Columbia, SC.  Why go to Stillwater?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 22, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
I agree Miami seems like the ultimate destination here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 22, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
I feel like Oklahoma St is going to hire Frank Martin.
The drive to Stillwater is just as easy as to Manhattan from Wichita. Should be plenty of orange seats available!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
Congrats Mizzou!

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/844648370094424064
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 23, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Georgetown canned JT3.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2017, 01:32:14 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on March 23, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Georgetown canned JT3.

Man that had to have been painful. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 23, 2017, 01:38:01 PM
His name kept him on for a couple years longer than should have
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BackPayne on March 23, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
Weber have any Georgetown connections? :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
Quote from: PIPE on March 23, 2017, 01:38:01 PM
His name kept him on for a couple years longer than should have


Probably did.  Wow.  I wonder the old man is saying? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on March 23, 2017, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: BackPayne on March 23, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
Weber have any Georgetown connections? :pray:
Idk about connections to GU but yeah he's had a steady recruiting focus on mid major-y east coast recruits for some time now and the Big East reaches into oscar's old upper midwest areas.  Needs to bring Chet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 23, 2017, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on March 23, 2017, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: BackPayne on March 23, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
Weber have any Georgetown connections? :pray:
Idk about connections to GU but yeah he's had a steady recruiting focus on mid major-y east coast recruits for some time now and the Big East reaches into oscar's old upper midwest areas.  Needs to bring Chet.

Georgetown job open, and sounds like maybe Indiana is going to go after Mack once they're done. So possibly two Big East Jobs open.

We need to be proactive to push him there (although they're both probably too good of jobs for him)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2017, 04:36:54 PM
It would be fun to watch the John Thompsons talk about    oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: O-town Kat on March 23, 2017, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2017, 04:36:54 PM
It would be fun to watch the John Thompsons talk about    oscar Weber.
Esp after being referred to as 'Jack Thompson' in oscar's intro presser
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 23, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
Quote from: O-town Kat on March 23, 2017, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 23, 2017, 04:36:54 PM
It would be fun to watch the John Thompsons talk about    oscar Weber.
Esp after being referred to as 'Jack Thompson' in oscar's intro presser

Oscar Weber and Xavier go well together
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on March 24, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
this john mcgrath fella is coked to the gills. or just really ignorant. probably both. http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/john-mcgrath/article140479818.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 24, 2017, 02:27:18 PM
Cal is promoting one of their assistants to be head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 25, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
Well, that settles it.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/845497332900626432
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 10:35:14 AM
If that's truly the case, I expect Indiana to go hard after Mack. Not sure he'd leave Xavier for them, but its not unreasonable.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/845671052055334916
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 25, 2017, 11:36:36 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/845675302210617344
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 25, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
Miller Lite?

https://twitter.com/IndianaMBB/status/845677428043382784
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 11:50:25 AM
Pretty good hire for Indiana.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.

Unfortunately a school like Dayton has much higher expectations for their basketball program than oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 25, 2017, 11:53:48 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.

Can you imagine going from Archie to oscar?  Wait.  Yes.  Yes, I can imagine it.  :frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.

Unfortunately a school like Dayton has much higher expectations for their basketball program than oscar Weber.
:frown:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.

Unfortunately a school like Dayton has much higher expectations for their basketball program than oscar Weber.
:frown:

4 NCAAs with a 5-4 record and an Elite 8 in the past 4 seasons. They likely won't find another Miller, but they sure are looking for someone much better than oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Dayton feels like a soft serve ice cream cone that oscar could really sink his teeth into.

Unfortunately a school like Dayton has much higher expectations for their basketball program than oscar Weber.
:frown:

4 NCAAs with a 5-4 record and an Elite 8 in the past 4 seasons. They likely won't find another Miller, but they sure are looking for someone much better than oscar.

What has Archie done that is so impressive. He has been beneficial with an A10 that has suffered from conference realignment making Dayton one of the better job in the conference if not the best. His kenpom rankings aren't great. They are good but not job exceeding. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
What has Archie done that is so impressive. He has been beneficial with an A10 that has suffered from conference realignment making Dayton one of the better job in the conference if not the best. His kenpom rankings aren't great. They are good but not job exceeding. 

That's a fair question and I thought about that a little bit when I looked at his resume. His teams did get steadily better at Dayton and he was league champs/co champs the last 2 years. However, the NCAA success has gone down. He had all 5 NCAA wins (including one in the first 4) 3 and 4 years ago including his Elite 8, both years as 11 seeds. Then the last 2 seasons as 7 seeds he lost in the first round, but those were to pretty good teams in Syracuse and Wichita State. If I'm Indiana I'd rather have Mack from Xavier, but maybe they got information that he wasn't interested.

It also feels like Indiana basketball may be going the way of Nebraska football, but its a much different sport and they shouldn't have the same issues that Nebraska football has in maintaining success at an elite level.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 01:46:04 PM
Archie's fine. I also don't think Dayton would necessarily get a "better" candidate than oscar, but that they probably wouldn't want him. They can (and sort of have to) hire from a riskier pool than oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
You've got to admit, the pool of decent/good coaches who are candidates to move on really wasn't all that impressive. 

It was a forgone conclusion that Keatts was going to NC State, that deal was done before UNCW got on the plane for the NCAA tourney . . .  after that Archie Miller, Will Wade and Cuonzo Martin sat at the top of the heap that's pretty  meh.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
I'm not sold on Will Wade, I'd put those two above him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
Is Holtmann too big to leave Butler?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
Dooley is creepy as hell and I just can't get past that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
Dooley is creepy as hell and I just can't get past that.

I can't disagree with that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 25, 2017, 02:28:54 PM
Archie Miller to Indiana.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
Sean Miller's brother is going to Indiana. Anyone have thoughts on his resume? Any comparisons to Nebraska football out there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: SdK on March 25, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
Sean Miller's brother is going to Indiana. Anyone have thoughts on his resume? Any comparisons to Nebraska football out there?

Welp.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2017, 03:18:16 PM
Lol. :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
You've got to admit, the pool of decent/good coaches who are candidates to move on really wasn't all that impressive. 

It was a forgone conclusion that Keatts was going to NC State, that deal was done before UNCW got on the plane for the NCAA tourney . . .  after that Archie Miller, Will Wade and Cuonzo Martin sat at the top of the heap that's pretty  meh.

No one thinks that those were the top four coaching candidates. Will Wade and Archie Miller were very clearly not the top targets for those jobs and Mizzou was the only one of these schools that were going to hire Cuonzo.

I'm interested to know if Indiana even called gregggggg or if his sloppy wife was just one piece of baggage too many for them to want to put up with. I thought 3G was a perfect fit for Indiana, he's Bob Knight without the overwhelming desire to choke and punch students.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.

If SMU beats the hell out of the AAC again next year Jank has to be the top target.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.

If SMU beats the hell out of the AAC again next year Jank has to be the top target.
Yeah
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2017, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
You've got to admit, the pool of decent/good coaches who are candidates to move on really wasn't all that impressive. 

It was a forgone conclusion that Keatts was going to NC State, that deal was done before UNCW got on the plane for the NCAA tourney . . .  after that Archie Miller, Will Wade and Cuonzo Martin sat at the top of the heap that's pretty  meh.

No one thinks that those were the top four coaching candidates. Will Wade and Archie Miller were very clearly not the top targets for those jobs and Mizzou was the only one of these schools that were going to hire Cuonzo.

I'm interested to know if Indiana even called gregggggg or if his sloppy wife was just one piece of baggage too many for them to want to put up with. I thought 3G was a perfect fit for Indiana, he's Bob Knight without the overwhelming desire to choke and punch students.

I don't even consider 3G a target, his whole shtick is to tell his people to float an insane number and everybody passes, as I said earlier, no one wants to make 3G the second highest paid coach in college basketball.   

Again, the pool of those truly looking to move on is pretty meh. 



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.

If SMU beats the hell out of the AAC again next year Jank has to be the top target.
Yeah

Especially if Semi leaves and he dominates without his best 2 players from this past year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.

If SMU beats the hell out of the AAC again next year Jank has to be the top target.

Recruiting is way down with out Brown from a shallow star perspective.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2017, 09:34:36 PM
Forbes is much higher on my list than Dooley or Jank - neither has built their current job or really built anything close to the success Forbes has.  Jank isn't as creepy as Dooley but he is good looking in a serial killer way
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 25, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
3Gs is by far and away the best coach that is conceivably poachable
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2017, 10:38:04 PM
Roy would never let this happen, but I'd take CB McGrath.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
We should PUBLICLY offer Bill Self $10M per year for 10 years.  Let's see how bad KU wants to keep him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2017, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 25, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
We should PUBLICLY offer Bill Self $10M per year for 10 years.  Let's see how bad KU wants to keep him.

He does like 10 year deals.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 26, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
Come home Bill!

 the worst performance I have seen from a Jayhawk team. The blame is as much the coaches as the players.
I have watched every game this year and this was by far the most pathetic I have seen.
jackson, you didn't show up. Lucas, were you there tonight. Graham, should have played Tyler Self you were that bad, Mason, you are still the #1 payer in the land and gave everything you had.
Self, maybe time to think about moving on. You can't deliver in the big games and thats what you get paid millions to do.
What a horrible finish to a great season. No excuses other than not being prepared


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 26, 2017, 12:22:15 AM
You don't need this crap Bill!

This one is on Coach Self. I read that article where he was, in effect, taking it easy going into the Oregon game. That should NEVER happen in the tournament. Mentally the guys were beaten at the outset of the game. Lack of preparation...


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2017, 12:25:13 AM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
I still think Forbes has potential. I'll throw Dooley in there as well.
Top two targets imo. Elevated play and recruiting.

If SMU beats the hell out of the AAC again next year Jank has to be the top target.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=1702288;topic=12275.5375;last_msg=1702430

Recruiting is way down with out Brown from a shallow star perspective.

Their four commits all have pretty impressive offer lists, all of them have at least one P5 offer. Also there is no freaking way that you can give the full credit for those previous classes to a 76 year old man, that staff absolutely did the heavy lifting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on March 26, 2017, 08:40:23 AM
Greg McDermott?    He makes less than $1.4 million a year at Creighton.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 26, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
#firebillself

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 28, 2017, 03:45:16 PM
Nobody wants to risk their current gig to stand in Big John's shadow.


https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/846812729759404032
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2017, 03:46:47 PM
Shaka is one of the coaches that you wouldn't want if he was willing to take the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2017, 05:50:15 PM
https://twitter.com/dave_matter/status/846850638537527296
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2017, 05:53:06 PM
delonte is laughing his ass off at that contract
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
Yeah, Gottlieb said Lamont Evans is getting 500k at osu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2017, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 28, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
Yeah, Gottlieb said Lamont Evans is getting 500k at osu

 :ROFL: holy crap, they really don't give a damn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
Okie State was literally in the best position to just try hiring Doug and they f'd it up in favor of one of the most historically uninspiring hires of all time and a weird staff budget and hires to go with it. We will see if it works I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
What I don't understand about giving Lamont Evans $500,000 is that if he's good next year they're exposing themselves to falling victim, again, to the same thing that happened with Brad.

It seems to me that they don't anticipate this though, it seems like they know they will suck, so if they are going to have to rebuild the roster then why not do it on the cheap since the fans aren't going to show up anyway. It's just a complete WTF move by Holder.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2017, 08:56:10 PM
mir, i don't know if I'm tracking here... you're worried about an extremely well paid assistant coach leaving and wrecking the program?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2017, 09:14:47 PM
Nah, I a dumbass. Mike Boynton is so anonymous that I temporarily forgot he was a head coach. He has an assistant making half a million dollars so I got twisted around because this dude who no one has ever heard of has a guy making as much or more than 75% of the coaches outside of the top six conferences.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2017, 09:16:53 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 28, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
What I don't understand about giving Lamont Evans $500,000 is that if he's good next year they're exposing themselves to falling victim, again, to the same thing that happened with Brad.

It seems to me that they don't anticipate this though, it seems like they know they will suck, so if they are going to have to rebuild the roster then why not do it on the cheap since the fans aren't going to show up anyway. It's just a complete WTF move by Holder.

Are you confusing Lamont Evans with Mike Boynton?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2017, 09:17:20 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2017, 09:21:28 PM
Just who do you think I am?

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
It's some kind of weird co coaching thing they are selling.  So weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on March 28, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
Boynton is being set up to fail like Kim Anderson was at Mizzou.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 29, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/847157236585652224
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 29, 2017, 01:57:44 PM
Good for Figs. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
if figs does well at austin peay maybe he'll earn a 7figs nickname
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slackcat on March 29, 2017, 02:06:47 PM
Should oscar schedule Austin Peay?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2017, 12:48:50 PM
Grant getting another shot at Dayton. Good for him.

https://twitter.com/DaytonFlyers/status/847469715228311552

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 30, 2017, 01:12:37 PM
Maybe he'll kick ass and frank will steer him here
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2017, 01:18:45 PM
Anthony Grant is a fine lookin' man. God damn.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2017, 10:46:17 PM
This makes me very happy, good for Dayton.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 30, 2017, 10:53:19 PM
When we were kicking his ass in Sprint Center, I yelled at Coach Grant that he was headed back to the mid majors. I will have to tell my wife I've been vindicated.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2017, 09:40:58 AM
Sorry Pete it looks like UNCW got to him first.


https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/847819480059199490
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 31, 2017, 09:45:21 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2017, 09:40:58 AM
Sorry Pete it looks like UNCW got to him first.


https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/847819480059199490

The pride of Topeka West! Good for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2017, 10:09:28 AM
The fightin' daxingtons!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 31, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Softykjr/status/847942307399647232
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on April 03, 2017, 02:23:16 PM
Good for him and Georgetown. Can't wait too how my evening sports shows talk about it. When rumors started there was a 50/50 split.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 03, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.

I didn't realize Mitch is on staff with Mullins at St John's.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mitch_richmond_987765.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 03, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
Ouch.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/848967112991178752
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2017, 04:17:27 PM
Can't believe oscar said no
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2017, 01:14:52 PM
I think Georgetown probably has higher expectations than oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on April 04, 2017, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 03, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.

I didn't realize Mitch is on staff with Mullins at St John's.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mitch_richmond_987765.html

VERY interesting . . . (would definitely take over Jank)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on April 04, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
That was an interesting read. He played for Dana in junior college. ¡Muy interesante!

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 04, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
i'm super late on this, but wow.  good for figs and evans.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2017, 12:48:54 AM
Quote from: TheFormerKCCat on April 04, 2017, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 03, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.

I didn't realize Mitch is on staff with Mullins at St John's.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mitch_richmond_987765.html

VERY interesting . . . (would definitely take over Jank)

What? Why?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on April 05, 2017, 05:44:09 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2017, 12:48:54 AM
Quote from: TheFormerKCCat on April 04, 2017, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 03, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.

I didn't realize Mitch is on staff with Mullins at St John's.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mitch_richmond_987765.html

VERY interesting . . . (would definitely take over Jank)

What? Why?
Generally anti-Jank. IDK why.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: scottwildcat on April 05, 2017, 08:01:04 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2017, 12:48:54 AM
Quote from: TheFormerKCCat on April 04, 2017, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 03, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: ksupamplemousse on April 03, 2017, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 03, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
Patrick Ewing to Georgetown :surprised:

Oh man, this is going to start a firestorm of "Mitch Richmond to K-State" rumors amongst the tucks.

I didn't realize Mitch is on staff with Mullins at St John's.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mitch_richmond_987765.html

VERY interesting . . . (would definitely take over Jank)

What? Why?

it would be the extremely watered down version of why someone may want BV over JL in football. We know what Jank is as a head coach, we know his ceilings as a head coach, but Mitch is still an unknown and the unknown possibility of a higher ceiling is more attractive to some.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

oscar did a better job at Southern Illinois than Jank has done anywhere. He also did a lot better with rosters much better than he would ever be able to recruit himself than Jank did at SMU this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 05, 2017, 09:15:54 AM
Jank is a guy you'd hire if your current coach left you in the lurch, took his whole staff with him, and there weren't any decent coaching candidates with upside left on the market. Do.Not.Want.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 05, 2017, 09:18:23 AM

Going to be a weird moment when GTown has to fire Ewing.

On the oscar/Jank conversation...oscar does have more of a track record. I'm curious to see what the changes in Columbia do to oscar's ability to pull Saint Louis kids. If he starts losing out there, I'm not sure how he replaces it, like what would be the next, natural location with equivalent talent that oscar could realistically tap into?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on April 05, 2017, 09:19:23 AM
Tourney appearances:

oscar = 11
Jank   =  1

And I hate defending oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on April 05, 2017, 09:18:23 AM

Going to be a weird moment when GTown has to fire Ewing.

On the oscar/Jank conversation...oscar does have more of a track record. I'm curious to see what the changes in Columbia do to oscar's ability to pull Saint Louis kids. If he starts losing out there, I'm not sure how he replaces it, like what would be the next, natural location with equivalent talent that oscar could realistically tap into?

I think Ewing will be great there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
lots of Jank hate. He has had a series of garbage jobs, now has a good one and has won.

Jank already has a top 150 4* PG coming in next year and is recruiting at a much higher level than oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 09:38:26 AM
If we find ourselves seriously considering Jank, we should probably give McDermott a call. He'd probably take the job and be better than Jank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 05, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
lots of Jank hate. He has had a series of garbage jobs, now has a good one and has won.

Jank already has a top 150 4* PG coming in next year and is recruiting at a much higher level than oscar.

If Jank keeps getting this kind of talent at SMU, I'd make a play on him if oscar continues to struggle in the postseason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
Jank already has a top 150 4* PG coming in next year and is recruiting at a much higher level than oscar.

that sample size is humongous!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 05, 2017, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
Jank already has a top 150 4* PG coming in next year and is recruiting at a much higher level than oscar.

that sample size is humongous!
KK realizes oscar has brought in more 4 star recruits and has a way better HC recording, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on April 05, 2017, 10:07:08 AM
I saw enough in the 2nd half of the SMU/USC game to know that I never want Jank to be the head basketball coach at K-State under any circumstances.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 10:10:40 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
Jank already has a top 150 4* PG coming in next year and is recruiting at a much higher level than oscar.

that sample size is humongous!

no, but we could lend more weight to comparing what they are both doing now, as opposed to 12 years ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
counterpoint to your counterpoint:  did isn't doing
until ol' janky boy fires up the 4* recruiting machine at smu, i'm not going to give him the recruiting nod over ol brucey boy

the problem with ol' brucey boy isn't his level of recruiting.  a good coach can win an above average number of games with the level of players ol' brucey boy brings to manhattan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 01:16:54 PM
kat kid has serious conflicts of interest on this. He can't be objective. Let's all move on.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 05, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
he's like jank's cousin or something, right?  something like that.  he should be ignored on this issue.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on April 05, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
KK is probably deeply entangled in the Jank "Deep State". #sad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
It all makes so much sense now
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 02:17:49 PM
you all are libtards
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on April 05, 2017, 02:17:49 PM
you all are libtards

you're a slippery son of a bitch, kat kid
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

oscar did a better job at Southern Illinois than Jank has done anywhere. He also did a lot better with rosters much better than he would ever be able to recruit himself than Jank did at SMU this year.

GTFO.

There's no need arguing the merits of Jank on here. Along the way someone joked about him then some people just set their opinions at that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pvegs on April 06, 2017, 01:17:28 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

oscar did a better job at Southern Illinois than Jank has done anywhere. He also did a lot better with rosters much better than he would ever be able to recruit himself than Jank did at SMU this year.

GTFO.

There's no need arguing the merits of Jank on here. Along the way someone joked about him then some people just set their opinions at that.

i ask this in all honesty, but so you think jank would be good? like, no foolies? or just that there's a dumb narrative on here that he would suck based on zero evidence bc goEMAW?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: pvegs on April 06, 2017, 01:17:28 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
oscar is better than Jank. If we fire oscar, we probably should hire somebody who might actually do a better job than him.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

oscar did a better job at Southern Illinois than Jank has done anywhere. He also did a lot better with rosters much better than he would ever be able to recruit himself than Jank did at SMU this year.

GTFO.

There's no need arguing the merits of Jank on here. Along the way someone joked about him then some people just set their opinions at that.

i ask this in all honesty, but so you think jank would be good? like, no foolies? or just that there's a dumb narrative on here that he would suck based on zero evidence bc goEMAW?

I have no idea if he would be good, that's hardly the point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
I have to ask, what was your point?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
I have to ask, what was your point?

There's no evidence of Jank being horrible but for some reason a component of this board seems to think that he is. None of it is actually based on what he has or hasn't accomplished so it's just noise.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
I have to ask, what was your point?

There's no evidence of Jank being horrible but for some reason a component of this board seems to think that he is. None of it is actually based on what he has or hasn't accomplished so it's just noise.

I don't know that he's horrible, but he certainly appears worse than oscar on paper.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
I have to ask, what was your point?

There's no evidence of Jank being horrible but for some reason a component of this board seems to think that he is. None of it is actually based on what he has or hasn't accomplished so it's just noise.

I don't know that he's horrible, but he certainly appears worse than oscar on paper.

Really? How so?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
I have to ask, what was your point?

There's no evidence of Jank being horrible but for some reason a component of this board seems to think that he is. None of it is actually based on what he has or hasn't accomplished so it's just noise.

i mean, that's what this board is.  we spend our time debating things we know little about.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tdaver on April 06, 2017, 12:57:23 PM
Here's his head coaching resume.  Like oscar, he did well inheriting some talent.  Unlike oscar, he couldn't get a midmajor to the tournament.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F9uyct2.png&hash=39aad4f57e87c2437dc3c8385da12bd5adc31239)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Frlzv4x.png&hash=cb3a3256ab6ee6c2b3c0d13a430b2dc614a39b46)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 06, 2017, 01:07:07 PM
I mean, it speaks for itself. I know it was a bajillion years ago, but on paper, he looks worse.  :dunno: What's not to get?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
Compare what he was able to accomplish at North Texas to Johnny Jones' tenure there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 06, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
Yeah, that's an extremely unspectacular resume. Laying in the first round this year didn't help either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 01:27:25 PM
So context doesn't matter anymore? There's a reason SMU and Larry Brown took him away from Illinois State to be their HCIW. Did you guys check to see how Illinois State did before they were there and after they left? How are we explaining away the 39-5 record at the only decent job he's had?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
Compare what he was able to accomplish at North Texas to Johnny Jones' tenure there.

So what he did 20 years ago as a coach in his early 30's carries more weight than the last year and a half?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 01:32:25 PM
Tim Jankovich, good enough for Hall Of Fame head coach Larry Brown, terrible for K-State. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 01:27:25 PM
So context doesn't matter anymore? There's a reason SMU and Larry Brown took him away from Illinois State to be their HCIW. Did you guys check to see how Illinois State did before they were there and after they left? How are we explaining away the 39-5 record at the only decent job he's had?

He's been there for one full season, and I don't believe it is a good idea to really put much stock into any coach's first year at a job, no matter how good or how bad it might be.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 06, 2017, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
Compare what he was able to accomplish at North Texas to Johnny Jones' tenure there.

So what he did 20 years ago as a coach in his early 30's carries more weight than the last year and a half?
oscar won a Big 12 championship and then drastically crap himself after using Frank's players. Why would I pay attention to a guy rolling out a ball with a bunch of  former 4*/5*'s and high caliber transfers dominating a shitty league? :confused:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
If Jank continues to completely dominate at SMU, I will certainly change my mind. It's not like there is some sort of personal reason for not thinking he should be a candidate for the Kansas State job. He probably should actually go out and accomplish something first, though. As it is, his resume says he is a lot more likely to be bad than good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 06, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
He's also followed up those classes with a bunch of 3 stars this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 01:43:06 PM
those players went to play for larry brown, not tim jankovich
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 06, 2017, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
If Jank continues to completely dominate at SMU, I will certainly change my mind. It's not like there is some sort of personal reason for not thinking he should be a candidate for the Kansas State job. He probably should actually go out and accomplish something first, though. As it is, his resume says he is a lot more likely to be bad than good.

Well, there actually is a personal reason why he would be unlikely to be hired at KState as long as Jackie Hartman is still so actively involved at KState.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2017, 02:58:22 PM
going from good in year 1 to super shitty in year 4 at ill. state is a reddish flag.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 06, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
If Jank continues to completely dominate at SMU, I will certainly change my mind. It's not like there is some sort of personal reason for not thinking he should be a candidate for the Kansas State job. He probably should actually go out and accomplish something first, though. As it is, his resume says he is a lot more likely to be bad than good.

I said he needs to be good in 2017-18, as well, before he would be a viable candidate though. If you think that you can't say that you'd rather have oscar. You nor hardly anyone else would buy in to oscar if we had a good 2017-18.

Also the "more bad than good" on his resume is absurd. He was good at Illinois State, stop trying to strip the context.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 06:56:15 PM
He was good at Illinois State, stop trying to strip the context.

not that good really.  and the context is that illinois state was about as good before and after him as they were when he was there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 06:56:15 PM
He was good at Illinois State, stop trying to strip the context.

not that good really.  and the context is that illinois state was about as good before and after him as they were when he was there.

That's not true at all. Why did Larry Brown pull him from the Illinois State job if he wasn't impressed with what he did there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2017, 07:26:12 PM
illinois st kenpoms

before: 140, 215, 177, 120, 170, 86
during: 58, 60, 89, 237, 93
after: 64, 148, 62, 120, 49

i'd give him credit for better consistency, except for that nasty 237.  he was better than previous, but the upward trend was clearly in place before he arrived.  they've arguably been better since his departure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Are kenpom all you got?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
i just assumed larry grabbed him because he was a bill self/ku guy who wanted back into the head coach game and the cbb coaching fraternity is a very close and loyal one.  larry, being 900 years old, said come hither and ill hook your punk ass up
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Are kenpom all you got?

the data are appropriate for the question.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Are kenpom all you got?

the data are appropriate for the question.

Well it shows he did relatively well there so it's whatever I guess.  How was the SMU kenpom this year? Certainly it's average at best because Jank, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 06, 2017, 10:54:23 PM
 :facepalm: Mir, have you ever admitted a loss in life? good grief!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 06, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: sys on April 06, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Are kenpom all you got?

the data are appropriate for the question.

Well it shows he did relatively well there so it's whatever I guess.  How was the SMU kenpom this year? Certainly it's average at best because Jank, right?

the valley was a frequent multibid league and isu never made the tournament.  jank's time there wasn't horrible, it also wasn't the sort of record likely to get a coach a high major job.


smu under brown: 185, 31, 26, 16
under jank: 11

if we're shopping for a coach in a couple of years and jank has posted a couple more sub kp30 years, i might feel differently. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 06, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
His wikipedia page is mumped up.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fjankowick_zpsxhtewwde.jpg&hash=75f3fc99008cf58f5e610612e8937c3663b67431) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/jankowick_zpsxhtewwde.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 07, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Quote from: Trim on April 06, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
His wikipedia page is mumped up.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fjankowick_zpsxhtewwde.jpg&hash=75f3fc99008cf58f5e610612e8937c3663b67431) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/jankowick_zpsxhtewwde.jpg.html)

It reads like he regularly updates it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 07, 2017, 11:10:36 AM
I honestly have no idea what MIR's stance on Jank is. So far it just appears to be contrarian.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 07, 2017, 11:31:01 AM
MIR has been weird for a solid month now. i suspect he's been hacked or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2017, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 07, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
It reads like he regularly updates it

And doesn't know how to create separate sections from "playing career."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 07, 2017, 11:10:36 AM
I honestly have no idea what MIR's stance on Jank is. So far it just appears to be contrarian.

Looks like you need to learn to read better, I explicitly stated it three times in this thread alone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
Seems about right.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/gallery/college-basketball-coaching-hires-rumors-details-rankings-archie-miller-kevin-keatts-cuonzo-martin-041217
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 08, 2017, 08:51:16 AM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/861567572289781760


Figger gets it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on June 05, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Thad Matta out at tOSU


https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/871789201561464837
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on June 05, 2017, 01:24:40 PM
I always thought he looked like a troll from David the Gnome.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LeggoKatZ on June 05, 2017, 02:11:14 PM
#HireThad

Seriously. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on June 05, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
an emaw @clubtrillion would fun
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on June 05, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
Thad Matta is now on the table

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on June 05, 2017, 07:49:48 PM
That makes things interesting, #hirethad, he is about the same age as our AD

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 05, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on June 05, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Thad Matta out at tOSU


https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/871789201561464837

:horrorsurprise: gotta be health issues
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on June 05, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on June 05, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on June 05, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Thad Matta out at tOSU


https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/871789201561464837

:horrorsurprise: gotta be health issues

It is. Doesn't sound like he'll be coaching for a while.

https://twitter.com/tsnmike/status/871852271230787584
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on June 05, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Man between Thad Matta and Steve Kerr back surgery is looking like a thing to avoid at nearly any cost. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on June 05, 2017, 10:56:41 PM
Oh crap! Oh brown horse farts! Oh heckygee! OSU is going to take our Oscar.  Just rip him from our bosoms.  Leaving a childless mother behind.  Wailing for her lost dear brucey.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on June 05, 2017, 11:48:10 PM
Ohio State needs oscar Weber.

#BuckeyeBruce
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 06, 2017, 06:57:59 AM
Wow, Matta had a rough go health wise.  I had no idea.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on June 07, 2017, 12:44:43 AM
Hoiberg
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on June 07, 2017, 08:48:45 PM
The Big 10 can't handle the neck! http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19573898/creighton-coach-greg-mcdermott-serious-candidate-ohio-state-job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on June 07, 2017, 10:44:09 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/872659706656858113


Is this real life?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SdK on June 07, 2017, 10:46:24 PM
Good for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstofer on June 08, 2017, 12:15:21 AM
Time for a Foster-Weber reunion.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on June 08, 2017, 01:15:47 AM
Quote from: kstofer on June 08, 2017, 12:15:21 AM
Time for a Foster-Weber reunion.

 :excited:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on June 08, 2017, 06:24:12 AM
Creighton should go after Tom Crean if neck leaves. I'm going to be doing cartwheels down Dodge St if he really is leaving. #GoJays
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 08, 2017, 09:57:43 AM
Is there anyone you don't rep?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TownieCat on June 08, 2017, 11:26:42 AM
McDermott turned down tOSU  :surprised:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
This is oscar's chance. Swoop in when they are stunned and feeling weak.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on June 08, 2017, 11:50:52 AM
I highly suggest they seek out Gene Keady's expert opinion
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on June 08, 2017, 03:27:51 PM
I've never wished oscar had made a deeper run in the tourney last season than now. Unfortunately, he probably remains unappealing to nearly every Big Ten school.

On Matta, the health is obviously the primary thing going on here, although don't underestimate the hot seat he was on. Two elite sources in the Ohio AAU and MAC coaching scene have suggested for a few years now that Thad had basically been pretty terrible with in-state recruiting. Leaving him to get the talented OH kids with character issues, rather than the cream of the crop. Marc Loving is the recent example of this. From what these guys say at least, Thad never even had a shot with Trey Burke, who was from Columbus, Ohio. Recruiting from schools like Dayton and Xavier have hurt him in state and in the Indianapolis area.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on June 08, 2017, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on June 08, 2017, 09:57:43 AM
Is there anyone you don't rep?

Well not Creighton because McDermott stayed  :angry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
MIR reps every sport of mankind and acts like he's the Dick Vitale of them all to be fair, Havs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 08, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
MIR acts like he's the Dick Vitale of them all

what does this mean?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
He acts like he knows every sport as if he's the main color commentary announcer for it? :dunno: "Did you say cricket? Man, Deangelo really got screwed in the finals last year". "Lawn darts you say? I hate the new rules!"  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on June 09, 2017, 11:11:46 AM
You guys can be brutal.  I going to  my quiet spot to sob.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2017, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 09, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
He acts like he knows every sport as if he's the main color commentary announcer for it? :dunno: "Did you say cricket? Man, Deangelo really got screwed in the finals last year". "Lawn darts you say? I hate the new rules!"  :ROFL:

I had no idea soccer, hockey, and volleyball are all foreign concepts to American sports fans; good to know, I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2017, 05:59:57 PM
Don't you like nascar too? You're the most diverse sports fan I know. It's not a bad thing, just not sure how you have the time. I couldn't name one pro volleyball or hockey player alive. Is Crosby still a thing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2017, 06:01:42 PM
Plus you're super into women's sports. I'm sure having a daughter helped with that, but I just can't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on February 08, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/961754139687620608
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 08, 2018, 07:36:22 PM
Man he did not age well
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on February 08, 2018, 07:40:07 PM
when you see those thick ankles on a young man, you know how the game's going to unfold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on February 08, 2018, 08:31:02 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/colorado-state-to-fire-mens-basketball-coach-larry-eustachy-abuse-players/l2p70aqauj291kucxn1wxab56
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 12, 2018, 11:19:10 AM
So who's on your board to hire if Weber doesn't make the tourney? Brad has a huge buyout and is currently 12-14 at Illinois. Jank is 15-10 at SMU. Capel? :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 12, 2018, 11:21:50 AM
with the tragedy that this team had occur during the season can you really fire oscar at this point?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2018, 11:24:01 AM
oscar will be back
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on February 12, 2018, 11:32:50 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 12, 2018, 11:19:10 AM
So who's on your board to hire if Weber doesn't make the tourney? Brad has a huge buyout and is currently 12-14 at Illinois. Jank is 15-10 at SMU. Capel? :dunno:
Both are old washouts on the downhill.  Frankly this program has slid so far in the last few years, it is going to take something like the Missouri hire to energize this fan base.  My fear is keeping Oscar for a couple of more years, and us being  Anderson Mizzou bad.  It will be harder to get a good coach to KSU.  Is there any Bill Self seedlings to bring in?

Likely Weber is here until he is 80.  About the only thing that will get action from these cowardly administrators is Weber going perv or breaking the law;  which will not happen as Weber is a great father and citizen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 12, 2018, 11:19:10 AM
So who's on your board to hire if Weber doesn't make the tourney? Brad has a huge buyout and is currently 12-14 at Illinois. Jank is 15-10 at SMU. Capel? :dunno:

I’d take a preemptive strike at Fred Hoiberg but I’m not sure how eager the bulls are to fire him this year.  Would still take Doug Gottlieb , Dan Hurley, Earl Grant, honestly I’d rather have Joe Dooley than oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on February 12, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
forbes or nobody.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: sys on February 12, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
forbes or nobody.

Yes would definitely take.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: _33 on February 12, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
Would like another GRCOAT if possible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2018, 12:28:03 PM
If a change is made, Forbes would be at or near the top of my list.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2018, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: sys on February 12, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
forbes or nobody.

or Hoiberg if it's at all feasible. (I honestly have no idea if it would be, but probably not)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on February 12, 2018, 01:31:22 PM
it's forbes or nobody.  the "or nobody" is just as important as the "forbes".
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on February 12, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
i would be perfectly happy with this nobody guy at this point
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 12, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Oscar is retiring a KSU Cat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on February 12, 2018, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on February 12, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
i would be perfectly happy with this nobody guy at this point

Already has matched oscar in tournament wins
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on February 12, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2018, 02:08:16 PM
Trim what do you think about the rising star at Grand Canyon University in Phoenix?  I think he could be a real program builder.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on February 12, 2018, 02:14:58 PM
bruce4eva!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
i wonder if forbes' bald head hurts his recruiting?   i don't know.  the success he has had on the hardwood is very impressive though, so maybe it doesn't.  who knows?
men with full and flowing locs have obvious advantages in life, can't imagine this would be an area of exception
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on February 12, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
well, we have to go back to Tarkanian at UNLV in 1990 to find a bald national champ so i have to agree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2018, 04:48:46 PM
Bill Self is/was bald as the shark he just has a toupee
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on February 12, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.theodysseyonline.com%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F09%2F11%2F6357758086842476821469208400_original.jpg&hash=6fbab9dca7c96dc95f92b60f2a42e68fbf9ff4cd)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2018, 06:09:10 PM
tons of hair
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on February 14, 2018, 01:58:15 PM
oscar Weber Family Court at Bramlage Coliseum. The third or fourth most likely way oscar leaves Kansas State.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2018, 06:45:32 PM
Eustachy quit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on February 26, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
Big oppy for csu to hire a perennial bubble coach  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 26, 2018, 07:08:09 PM
Kevin Stallings should be available soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: pissclams on February 26, 2018, 06:45:32 PM
Eustachy quit

"quit"

I have a buddy who is a plugged in CSU Alum and Becky Hammond is their first choice
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2018, 10:35:49 PM
srsly?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on February 26, 2018, 10:47:28 PM
that would be pretty cool
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2018, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: pissclams on February 26, 2018, 10:35:49 PM
srsly?

He doesn't get the impression she'll take it but that's absolutely who they want.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 12:38:11 AM

she has such little experience it’s hard to believe
i can see her taking it though for no other reason than to break that glass ceiling
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:20:42 AM
Quote from: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 12:38:11 AM

she has such little experience it’s hard to believe
i can see her taking it though for no other reason than to break that glass ceiling

He doesn't think she'll take it because it takes her farther away from potentially taking over from Pop when he leaves. Four years as a full-time NBA assistant is definitely experienced enough to take a job in the Mountain West.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 02:29:34 AM
3.5 seasons, not years, and I completely disagree

her knowledge of the game wouldn’t be the issue, obviously
but being the ceo of a college program would take a lot of knowledge that only comes from being immersed within the college game, something she hasn’t touched for almost 2 decades

sure, hiring smart assistants that she can offload things to would help but no way
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.


You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.  Rex Walters sucked balls as a college coach,  Ollie is about to get fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on February 27, 2018, 06:28:45 AM
Weber will be a hot commodity this spring
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.


none of these examples make what i'm arguing wrong, or you right.  if anything, they bolster my point.  you actually believe it to be a good idea to hire someone with hammon's experience.  odd take, but it's yours.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Justwin on February 27, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.

Why are Corliss Williamson (head coach at Central Arkansas) and Mark Madsen (assistant at Stanford) on this list?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on February 27, 2018, 01:02:26 PM
https://twitter.com/AustinPeayMBB/status/968560408129933312
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: Justwin on February 27, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.

Why are Corliss Williamson (head coach at Central Arkansas) and Mark Madsen (assistant at Stanford) on this list?

I had no idea that Big Nasty coached Central Arkansas. Also didn't know that Mad Dog was at Sanford.

Quote from: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.


none of these examples make what i'm arguing wrong, or you right.  if anything, they bolster my point.  you actually believe it to be a good idea to hire someone with hammon's experience.  odd take, but it's yours.

I definitely didn't bolster any point you made. I'm also not interested in proving or disproving any point either of us have made. The bottom line is that they are interested in her and she may not take the job because she's been led to believe that an NBA job is eminent for her. There also have been several other coaches across all major sports that have been given a shot with a similar resume. Those are facts, there's nothing to prove, I didn't make a statement on how effective she'll be.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: Justwin on February 27, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.

Why are Corliss Williamson (head coach at Central Arkansas) and Mark Madsen (assistant at Stanford) on this list?

I had no idea that Big Nasty coached Central Arkansas. Also didn't know that Mad Dog was at Sanford.

Quote from: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Luke Walton was an assistant for 2.5 seasons before he got the highest profile job in the NBA.

There are other current assistants like Jerry Stackhouse, Coby Karl, Corliss Willamson, and Mark Madsen who could absolutely get mid-major jobs if they wanted them, and none of them coached with Pop.

And there's other former players who got jobs with far less experience like Rex Walters and Kevin Ollie.


none of these examples make what i'm arguing wrong, or you right.  if anything, they bolster my point.  you actually believe it to be a good idea to hire someone with hammon's experience.  odd take, but it's yours.

I definitely didn't bolster any point you made. I'm also not interested in proving or disproving any point either of us have made. The bottom line is that they are interested in her and she may not take the job because she's been led to believe that an NBA job is eminent for her. There also have been several other coaches across all major sports that have been given a shot with a similar resume. Those are facts, there's nothing to prove, I didn't make a statement on how effective she'll be.

good god. 

me: she doesn't have enough experience
you: listed a bunch of people with no experience
 
me: and look at them
you:  i wasn't making a point

:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
hey lady who hasn't been involved in college coaching ever- go make history and become the first men's d1 head hoops coach!

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?

Steve Kerr and Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd immediately come to mind
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on February 27, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on February 27, 2018, 03:22:10 PM
Avery Johnson?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?

Steve Kerr and Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd immediately come to mind

Derek Fisher too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?

Steve Kerr and Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd immediately come to mind

Derek Fisher too

Those are all good examples except for Kerr, he was in player personnel for the Suns, GM I think. Avery was an assistant fora year or two. Kidd and DFish were the ones who went directly from the court.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

good god. 

me: she doesn't have enough experience
you: listed a bunch of people with no experience
 
me: and look at them
you:  i wasn't making a point

:lol:

I was simply illustrating that hiring an NBA assistant with <5 years coaching experience is not without precedent. I'll say it slower for you this time, maybe you'll read it this time, I have no opinion on whether or not she'll be successful. You think she isn't experienced enough to be a good hire? Okay cool, grats on the opinion.

Will she be successful? Who knows? I don't think it matters even a little bit if you're Colorado State. You're going to sell a crap ton of tickets and merch. You'll have more buzz than you could ever imagine and you'll have every game on television. If she's a coaching savant, sweet. If she blows, fire her in three years and you're no worse for wear, where not talking about UNC here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2018, 05:34:03 PM
omg
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:13:17 PM
etsu/forbes are on espn2 for anyone who wants to advance scout the guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2018, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:13:17 PM
etsu/forbes are on espn2 for anyone who wants to advance scout the guy

exactly what I wanna do, thx
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2018, 08:26:39 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 05, 2018, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:13:17 PM
etsu/forbes are on espn2 for anyone who wants to advance scout the guy

exactly what I wanna do, thx
The UNCG coach looks like a tiny little baby coach so I looked him up and he's actually been there like 8 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:35:50 PM
trump staffer doppelgänger
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2018, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:35:50 PM
trump staffer doppelgänger
Oh man definitely
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 08:13:17 PM
etsu/forbes are on espn2 for anyone who wants to advance scout the guy

Grinder!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2018, 10:06:45 PM
I kind of like the UNCG guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: fun muffin on March 05, 2018, 10:15:14 PM
Let the Wes Miller swoon fest begin!!!  I’m on board


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 10:31:58 PM
not a great job interview for this forbes fella
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2018, 10:35:17 PM
was scout on the scout tonight 'clams?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2018, 11:28:46 PM
she helped the early game scouting l and then took a nap on her nail scratch thing around halfway through the game and then finally got up and helped scout the end
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2018, 12:50:06 AM
beard signs for 6 y $19m
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 06, 2018, 10:50:28 AM
Forbes and Miller both made the sexiest mid-major coaches list.  Odd choice of photo for Miller though.


https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/2/14/17010290/valentines-day-sexiest-coaches-mid-major-basketball-andy-toole-steve-forbes
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 06, 2018, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN1 on March 05, 2018, 10:06:45 PM
I kind of like the UNCG guy.

Me too, he could be leaving UNCG by the time of the Final Four, when the hiring season rumblings begin.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2018, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: Joker on March 06, 2018, 10:50:28 AM
Forbes and Miller both made the sexiest mid-major coaches list.  Odd choice of photo for Miller though.


https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/2/14/17010290/valentines-day-sexiest-coaches-mid-major-basketball-andy-toole-steve-forbes

lotta old white dudes
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 07, 2018, 07:46:18 AM
Penny Hardaway as HC of Memphis with Larry Brown as assistant??   :surprised:


Quote
Hardaway, who played for the Tigers from 1991 to '93 before becoming a four-time NBA All-Star, currently coaches East High School (Memphis, Tenn.) and runs the Team Penny AAU program on the Nike EYBL circuit. He coaches ESPN 60 No. 1 junior James Wiseman at East, as well as five-star junior Chandler Lawson (No. 26). Five-star junior D.J. Jeffries (No. 17) also plays for Team Penny.


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22672236/memphis-tigers-looking-firing-tubby-smith-bringing-penny-hardaway
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 07, 2018, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joker on March 07, 2018, 07:46:18 AM
Penny Hardaway as HC of Memphis with Larry Brown as assistant??   :surprised:


Quote
Hardaway, who played for the Tigers from 1991 to '93 before becoming a four-time NBA All-Star, currently coaches East High School (Memphis, Tenn.) and runs the Team Penny AAU program on the Nike EYBL circuit. He coaches ESPN 60 No. 1 junior James Wiseman at East, as well as five-star junior Chandler Lawson (No. 26). Five-star junior D.J. Jeffries (No. 17) also plays for Team Penny.


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22672236/memphis-tigers-looking-firing-tubby-smith-bringing-penny-hardaway

Penny will have the talent, but can he coach? In the AAC, that haul of guys he has in his AAU program, should get them in the top echelon immediately.

How about Minnesota bring's Tubby back? The Richard Pitino experiment needs to die.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 07, 2018, 10:36:21 AM
https://sports.yahoo.com/will-becky-hammon-coach-colorado-state-mens-hoops-spurs-brass-praises-mum-trailblazer-080750394.html
Will Becky Hammon coach Colorado State men's hoops? Spurs brass praises mum trailblazer

The most intriguing, transformational and innovative potential transaction on the college coaching wire has little to do with the drama surrounding possible openings at big-name schools like Connecticut, Georgia and Memphis.

At Colorado State, where veteran coach Larry Eustachy resigned as the basketball coach, there’s been a public openness to – and even clamoring for – an unprecedented coaching hire. Athletic director Joe Parker has been quoted publicly saying that he’d considered hiring San Antonio Spurs assistant coach Becky Hammon as the men’s basketball coach.

She was a three-time All-American at Colorado State, has her jersey retired there and has since emerged as a star assistant coach in the NBA.

“It’s the most frequently asked question I get, and recommended candidate,” Parker told Coloradoan.com. “I’m not closing the door on any thought.”

A Colorado State source told Yahoo Sports that Hammon is considered one of the top candidates by the administration.

And by opening the door to a groundbreaking hire, the possibility looms for Hammon to be the first woman to work as a head Division I men’s basketball coach in history. Perhaps the best way to sum up how qualified Hammon is as a Colorado State candidate is that those who know her best don’t consider the move at all anomalous or unusual.

Hammon declined comment on Tuesday night through a Spurs spokesperson. She’s stayed tight-lipped to reporters around the team as well. But those who’ve seen her quietly establish herself as one of the NBA’s bright young assistant coaches have rushed to endorse her coaching potential.

Spurs general manager R.C. Buford, reached by phone by Yahoo Sports on Monday, lauded Hammon’s work ethic, basketball savvy and “emotional IQ that’s so important to being a successful coach.” Hammon joined the Spurs in 2014 as the first full-time paid female assistant coach on an NBA staff. Since that time, she’s perhaps stood out most by blending in. “She’s established a great presence in our group,” Buford said. “She’s got the respect of our coaches, our players and our organization. She has great insight at two different levels, both in the coaching environment and strategic discussions and she can also take [instruction] to our players and discuss with them.”

Hammon’s playing career includes six WNBA All-Star selections and she is the league’s eighth all-time leading scorer. Her coaching trajectory has ascended precipitously, as she got hired by the Spurs in 2014 and twice coached their summer league team. She led them to a summer league title in 2015. “She had great command of her team and had their respect,” said Celtics assistant Micah Shrewsberry, who coached against her that summer. “They played hard and ran good stuff. They looked like a Spurs group that had been together for a long time, not just two weeks.”

That’s the thing about Hammon. Ask about breaking barriers, and the answers come back about her simply being good at her job. The feeling around the Spurs organization is that Hammon, 40, can coach in the NBA for a long time at the highest levels. Any question about how Hammon is doing isn’t even received by Spurs officials through any prism of gender. She’s blazed a trail through quiet consistency, high intellect and earning respect in the NBA’s most respected organization.

If she got the Colorado State job, it would certainly be a big story. Just like it was when the Spurs hired her as an assistant. Soon, that faded away. “It wasn’t a big deal at the time [we hired her] because she deserved every bit of it,” Buford said. “We laugh about it. She wasn’t hired because we wanted to be trailblazers or she wanted to be one. She was hired because she was the right person to be in our group.

“My belief is that the story would last a short time, then it would be not that she’s a trailblazer, it’s that she’s the right fit.”

Hammon has had a shot to coach college basketball before, as she interviewed for the women’s coaching job at Florida last year. A person familiar with that search came away impressed: “She’s super sharp. She obviously understands basketball and has been successful at every level on the men’s and women’s side. She’s someone who isn’t afraid to be different and blaze her own path.”

She was perceived to be the leader for that job, but ultimately her career compass kept her coaching in the NBA. Would the men’s job at Colorado State have a different allure? It’s difficult to say. The biggest question would be recruiting, as it would be with any coach transitioning from professional basketball to college. “People aren’t raising that question because of gender,” said a veteran athletic director. “It’s because of skill set. Not to say she couldn’t do it, but it’s a fair question to ask.”

Another fair question: Should Hammon should stick in the NBA? She’s ascended through the league’s most lauded franchise. She’s a protégée of a coach, Gregg Popovich, who is regarded as the best in the world. And he’s consistently cast her potential as boundless.

“Becky can do anything she wants,” Popovich told reporters recently when asked about Hammon. “Whatever she wants to do in her future, I think is her choice. She’s got it all.”

Will that head-coaching potential be unfurled at Colorado State soon or in the NBA later? With Hammon, the only variable until her next seamless trailblazing path appears to be time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?

Steve Kerr and Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd immediately come to mind

Derek Fisher too

Those are all good examples except for Kerr, he was in player personnel for the Suns, GM I think. Avery was an assistant fora year or two. Kidd and DFish were the ones who went directly from the court.
Old post, but weren't Kidd and DFish unmitigated disasters?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 07, 2018, 10:41:55 AM
Penny's son was class of 17 but went to IMG this year so I am sure he factors in this deal too.  He appears to be a not terribly athletic 2 star 6-4 shooting guard so my guess is this is the only way he plays above low major basketball.

I think this will work for Memphis to at least get back to top half of the AAC - he will get players and has at least coached AAU & HS for years vs the guys like Drexler and Mullins that really were never on the sideline except as players.  If LB really gets engaged they will kick ass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 07, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
doubling down on cheating in the current environment seems like the right thing to do
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2018, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 06:17:18 AM

You don’t need experience to coach in the NBA, they hand out those jobs to people with 0 years of coaching experience.

Like who?

Steve Kerr and Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd immediately come to mind

Derek Fisher too

Those are all good examples except for Kerr, he was in player personnel for the Suns, GM I think. Avery was an assistant fora year or two. Kidd and DFish were the ones who went directly from the court.
Old post, but weren't Kidd and DFish unmitigated disasters?

Kidd was a .500 coach who went to the playoffs 3 out of 4 seasons before getting fired this year. Certainly not a disaster.

And Fisher was coaching the rough ridin' knicks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 07, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 07, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
doubling down on cheating in the current environment seems like the right thing to do
it will be well over a year before anyone from the FBI investigation even goes to trial -delayed negative consequences at worst
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 07, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 07, 2018, 02:37:23 PM
And Fisher was coaching the rough ridin' knicks.
Fisher's choice to mess around with the Matt Barnes ex makes me question everything about him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 07, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
doubling down on cheating in the current environment seems like the right thing to do
It isn't cheating to hire someone's HS coach or dad.  Especially justifiable when they are an alumnus and former NBA All Star
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 07, 2018, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on March 07, 2018, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 07, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
doubling down on cheating in the current environment seems like the right thing to do
It isn't cheating to hire someone's HS coach or dad.  Especially justifiable when they are an alumnus and former NBA All Star

You may have missed the part about Larry Brown?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 08, 2018, 09:40:49 AM
Stallings out at Pitt after only two seasons.


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/971759210051534848
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2018, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: Joker on March 08, 2018, 09:40:49 AM
Stallings out at Pitt after only two seasons.


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/971759210051534848
What a bunch of dumbfucks for letting Dixon go, but kudos for not wasting more time with that loser Stallings
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 08, 2018, 02:04:55 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22684265/reggie-theus-fired-cal-state-northridge-coach-files-battery-complaint-athletic-director-brandon-martin

Woah
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Joker on March 10, 2018, 09:03:37 AM
Quite the fall for Ollie.


Quote
UConn has parted ways with Kevin Ollie, as the school announced it has "initiated disciplinary procedures" to fire the head coach.


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22712868/uconn-huskies-parts-ways-head-coach-kevin-ollie-citing-just-cause
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:19:37 PM
Garden City homeboy Mark Fox has been fired from Georgia.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 10, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:19:37 PM
Garden City homeboy Mark Fox has been fired from Georgia.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
oscar leaves kstate for minnesota, dumbstick comes back to k-state, i never watch another second of k-state hoops 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 10, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
oscar leaves kstate for minnesota, dumbstick comes back to k-state, i never watch another second of k-state hoops

It’s not so bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 10, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
oscar leaves kstate for minnesota, dumbstick comes back to k-state, i never watch another second of k-state hoops

It’s not so bad.

I like having athletic programs that I can be proud of, it’s not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while

Wow, I had no idea. I just looked this up and there is only one article about it. I'm assuming the lawsuit was either withdrawn or very quickly settled.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:41:31 PM
oscar leaving at the end of this season would likely be crippling to the short term benefit of this program. Anti-Brucers who would want that, at this point, can't be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.  and I also think that there are enough qualified coaches who would not let us parting ways get in the way of a really good p5 job.  so, anyway, I disagree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 10, 2018, 07:03:35 PM
As long as Mark Fox is looking for a job I am number 1 #teambruce superfan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 10, 2018, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.  and I also think that there are enough qualified coaches who would not let us parting ways get in the way of a really good p5 job.  so, anyway, I disagree


Well put.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.

What? Nearly every person not affiliated with K-State that talks about this issue mocks us about it. Just this morning I heard Mike Decourcy compare us to Pitt. I've also heard us compared to NCSU when they ran Herb Sendek out of town.

Frankly it doesn't matter, as this crowd is a shrinking one and the situation will resolve itself one way or another by next April.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 10, 2018, 09:15:29 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.

What? Nearly every person not affiliated with K-State that talks about this issue mocks us about it. Just this morning I heard Mike Decourcy compare us to Pitt. I've also heard us compared to NCSU when they ran Herb Sendek out of town.

Frankly it doesn't matter, as this crowd is a shrinking one and the situation will resolve itself one way or another by next April.

It will resolve itself in that oscar will definitely be back after next April.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2018, 09:15:29 PM


Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.

What? Nearly every person not affiliated with K-State that talks about this issue mocks us about it. Just this morning I heard Mike Decourcy compare us to Pitt. I've also heard us compared to NCSU when they ran Herb Sendek out of town.

Frankly it doesn't matter, as this crowd is a shrinking one and the situation will resolve itself one way or another by next April.

It will resolve itself in that oscar will definitely be back after next April.

I agree, but there's a scenario in which he won't be back, it isn't likely but it could happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 10, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
In six years Oscar has won half his conference games and one play in game, that's awesome
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 10, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while

Wow, I had no idea. I just looked this up and there is only one article about it. I'm assuming the lawsuit was either withdrawn or very quickly settled.

Is it bad if he's getting sued while assistant coach'n KSU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 10, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while

Wow, I had no idea. I just looked this up and there is only one article about it. I'm assuming the lawsuit was either withdrawn or very quickly settled.

Is it bad if he's getting sued while assistant coach'n KSU?

Go on
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think most objective observers would understand the disdain for oscar that a lot of (not just our) fanbase has for him.

What? Nearly every person not affiliated with K-State that talks about this issue mocks us about it. Just this morning I heard Mike Decourcy compare us to Pitt. I've also heard us compared to NCSU when they ran Herb Sendek out of town.

Frankly it doesn't matter, as this crowd is a shrinking one and the situation will resolve itself one way or another by next April.

because being on the wrong side of Mike Decourcy is a bad thing?
oscar is widely known as a joke among his peers and while the discussion around his failure as a coach can be debated, there’s more to his job than what appears in the w/l column
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
oscar is widely known as a joke among his peers

So we're just making stuff up now? Okay, whatever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
oscar is widely known as a joke among his peers

So we're just making stuff up now? Okay, whatever.
you are if you think he's respected outside of the fran frachilla/wildcat salutes of the world
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
oscar is widely known as a joke among his peers

So we're just making stuff up now? Okay, whatever.
you are if you think he's respected outside of the fran frachilla/wildcat salutes of the world

Agreed

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 01:30:18 PM
I get all my news from gE so I can say with confidence no one likes oscar Weber.

Seriously though, I talked to someone in the AD’s office who just last year acknowledged oscar was on the hot seat before we made our final run to make it into the tournament. Like him or not, he’s still got a shorter leash here than he would most other programs. OU had a player OTY candidate, UT has a monster lottery pick, and both finished in the bottom half of the conference. Yet it sure seems like more people calling for Weber’s head than Kruger or Smart.

It’s frustrating for everyone to get consistently bounced from the first round of the tournament, but it’s a really shaky basis for letting someone go since so much of it comes down to luck.

Weber misses the tournament the next two years, he’s gone. He fails to get us to the Sweet 16 before 2022, he’s gone. Failing either of those, I think we’re stuck with him. Although I do believe that if both Frank and Underwood continue to be successful outside of KSU, the fans will give oscar an even shorter leash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 11, 2018, 01:35:44 PM
LHC Bill Snyder always talked about the "fine work" of guys like Terry Allen, Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, David Beaty.......They are no threat so of course you want them to stay
Same goes with guys like Izzo, Crean, Self complimenting Oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 01:37:51 PM
Quote from: ELL3 on March 11, 2018, 01:35:44 PM
LHC Bill Snyder always talked about the "fine work" of guys like Terry Allen, Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, David Beaty.......They are no threat so of course you want them to stay
Same goes with guys like Izzo, Crean, Self complimenting Oscar


Exactly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2018, 01:40:53 PM
lol @ comparing Kruger's hot seat to oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2018, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
oscar is widely known as a joke among his peers

So we're just making stuff up now? Okay, whatever.
you are if you think he's respected outside of the fran frachilla/wildcat salutes of the world

There's literally nothing, nothing at all, to indicate what you're claiming has any merit at all. It's whatever you do you. Pissclams and Pete hating oscar has a large immeasurable impact, he should quit before the tournament announcement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
One thing we can all agree on is that oscar is a mouth breathing, hapless, stooge of a man.  That much is an indisputable fact.  Let’s focus on that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
One thing we can all agree on is that oscar is a mouth breathing, hapless, stooge of a man.  That much is an indisputable fact.  Let’s focus on that.

i guess 7.3 billion people minus one can agree on that.  hard to believe that mir is somehow disputing what you posted.

hey oscar, your fly is down dude

(https://thumbor.247sports.com/ZaQwicECnPx_cNDxll8hqZgJD_U=/0x0/top/Uploads/Assets/128/208/8208128.JPG)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 02:36:22 PM
Look, I know MIR has a very beautiful wife and family, but part of me wonders if he is secretly in love with oscar, or at least very deep like.  Only way I can explain it. 

MIR, here is the test: Ask yourself this, have you ever watched oscar eating a soft serve cone and secretly thought to yourself (our out loud) “I wish I was that soft serve?”  If you have, you may have a oscar problem. 

That goes for the rest of you as well, not just MIR. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
Just took the test and I do not have a oscar problem.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
i passed the test (or failed), which is it?  anyway, definitely hate oscar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 10, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while

Wow, I had no idea. I just looked this up and there is only one article about it. I'm assuming the lawsuit was either withdrawn or very quickly settled.

Is it bad if he's getting sued while assistant coach'n KSU?

Go on

I think it's bad or would be bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 11, 2018, 01:40:53 PM
lol @ comparing Kruger's hot seat to oscar

Since 2012, here are the relative Big 12 regular season finishes between KSU and OU.

2012 - KSU: 2, OU: 5
2013 - KSU: 5, OU: 2
2014 - KSU: 8, OU: 3
2015 - KSU: 8, OU: 3
2016 - KSU: 6, OU: 9
2017 - KSU: 4, OU: 8

So on average over those 6 season, KSU finished 5.5, OU finished 5.  Pretty close.  Especially when you consider KSU has been trending up while OU has been trending down recently.

The big difference is obviously tournament success, and no one is going to deny that it goes a long way.  But to my point earlier, it is hard to let a coach go solely because of bad tournament performance unless it is over a very long time span.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 11, 2018, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
One thing we can all agree on is that oscar is a mouth breathing, hapless, stooge of a man.  That much is an indisputable fact.  Let’s focus on that.

i guess 7.3 billion people minus one can agree on that.  hard to believe that mir is somehow disputing what you posted.

hey oscar, your fly is down dude

(https://thumbor.247sports.com/ZaQwicECnPx_cNDxll8hqZgJD_U=/0x0/top/Uploads/Assets/128/208/8208128.JPG)

Also, buttoning bottom jacket button? Good grief
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2018, 03:59:05 PM


Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 11, 2018, 01:40:53 PM
lol @ comparing Kruger's hot seat to oscar

Since 2012, here are the relative Big 12 regular season finishes between KSU and OU.

2012 - KSU: 2, OU: 5
2013 - KSU: 5, OU: 2
2014 - KSU: 8, OU: 3
2015 - KSU: 8, OU: 3
2016 - KSU: 6, OU: 9
2017 - KSU: 4, OU: 8

So on average over those 6 season, KSU finished 5.5, OU finished 5.  Pretty close.  Especially when you consider KSU has been trending up while OU has been trending down recently.

The big difference is obviously tournament success, and no one is going to deny that it goes a long way.  But to my point earlier, it is hard to let a coach go solely because of bad tournament performance unless it is over a very long time span.

LOL
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 11, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
i passed the test (or failed), which is it?  anyway, definitely hate oscar

Same
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2018, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 01:30:18 PM
I get all my news from gE so I can say with confidence no one likes oscar Weber.

Seriously though, I talked to someone in the AD’s office who just last year acknowledged oscar was on the hot seat before we made our final run to make it into the tournament. Like him or not, he’s still got a shorter leash here than he would most other programs. OU had a player OTY candidate, UT has a monster lottery pick, and both finished in the bottom half of the conference. Yet it sure seems like more people calling for Weber’s head than Kruger or Smart.

It’s frustrating for everyone to get consistently bounced from the first round of the tournament, but it’s a really shaky basis for letting someone go since so much of it comes down to luck.

Weber misses the tournament the next two years, he’s gone. He fails to get us to the Sweet 16 before 2022, he’s gone. Failing either of those, I think we’re stuck with him. Although I do believe that if both Frank and Underwood continue to be successful outside of KSU, the fans will give oscar an even shorter leash.

You really don’t think people are calling for Smart’s head?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.

I think Smart will get fired if he misses the tournament next year. I think oscar would get another year if he doesn't make it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on March 12, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.

I think Smart will get fired if he misses the tournament next year. I think oscar would get another year if he doesn't make it.
If oscar can’t take next years team, the one that is bringing every single player back, to the tournament, he should be fired.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
Quote from: kstater on March 12, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.

I think Smart will get fired if he misses the tournament next year. I think oscar would get another year if he doesn't make it.
If oscar can’t take next years team, the one that is bringing every single player back, to the tournament, he should be fired.


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I doubt he would though
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 12, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
Of course he wouldn't
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 12, 2018, 11:43:35 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.

I think Smart will get fired if he misses the tournament next year. I think oscar would get another year if he doesn't make it.

First of all, that is a crazy thing to say without even waiting to see how far Texas goes this year.  Second, I don't think it is true even if Texas loses in the first round.

But even assuming you are right, do you think that is a good thing for Texas?  Like I said, let's not forget they ran off Barnes who consistently got them to the tourney before with an occasional deep run.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 13, 2018, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 12, 2018, 11:43:35 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 11, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I think SOME people are calling for the heads of all three. I’m just saying there still seems to be more anti-Weber sentiment relative to the others. Of course I could be wrong about Smart, but you gotta think Rick Barnes cleaning up at Tennessee recently has helped his cause.

If Texas misses the tourney this year, I do think his seat will be the hottest obviously.

I think Smart will get fired if he misses the tournament next year. I think oscar would get another year if he doesn't make it.

First of all, that is a crazy thing to say without even waiting to see how far Texas goes this year.  Second, I don't think it is true even if Texas loses in the first round.

But even assuming you are right, do you think that is a good thing for Texas?  Like I said, let's not forget they ran off Barnes who consistently got them to the tourney before with an occasional deep run.

Unless Smart has some sort of miracle Final Four run this year, I think Texas would be right in moving on if he doesn't make the tournament next season. They expect more than that, as they should.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 13, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
there’s more to his job than what appears in the w/l column
seriously?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2018, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 10, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
You have to wonder how long Chris Lowery will remain here.
he sued his last employer so probably for a while

Wow, I had no idea. I just looked this up and there is only one article about it. I'm assuming the lawsuit was either withdrawn or very quickly settled.

Is it bad if he's getting sued while assistant coach'n KSU?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/98a43809f8b0052342fde3feed69a667/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 13, 2018, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 13, 2018, 11:08:07 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/98a43809f8b0052342fde3feed69a667/tenor.gif)

Quote from: Trim on March 11, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Go on

I think it's bad or would be bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 13, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
there’s more to his job than what appears in the w/l column
seriously?
uh ya
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 13, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 13, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
there’s more to his job than what appears in the w/l column
seriously?
uh ya
i don't really care about anything except for Ws and Ls.  If a coach is winning, I like him and quirks and voice.  If he's losing I hate him and his dufus face and his nails on the chalkboard voice.  Just like it's always been for basically everyone, all is forgiven if you win enough games.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2018, 11:58:36 AM
What do you consider to be winning?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
So, Which one of you guys is Ned? (http://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sorry-haters-clear-weber-is-here-to-stay/article_cea2444c-26d2-5a42-bc5b-0c7bfb599d16.html)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 13, 2018, 11:58:36 AM
What do you consider to be winning?

apparently mediocrity

michigan state was on with winning too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2018, 02:06:38 PM
.500 Big 12 Record #winning
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2018, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
So, Which one of you guys is Ned? (http://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sorry-haters-clear-weber-is-here-to-stay/article_cea2444c-26d2-5a42-bc5b-0c7bfb599d16.html)

I don't know who Ned is, but after reading that article I sincerely hope he is a freshman journalism student.  In which case I hope he keeps working hard and wish him luck.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 13, 2018, 02:10:01 PM
he's a townie Harvard grad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 13, 2018, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
So, Which one of you guys is Ned? (http://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sorry-haters-clear-weber-is-here-to-stay/article_cea2444c-26d2-5a42-bc5b-0c7bfb599d16.html)

Bold move for Ned to go out on the "oscar is returning" limb at this point in the season
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joaks01 on March 13, 2018, 03:33:15 PM
Ned’s right. You don’t have to like oscar to understand he’s here for the foreseeable future. Don’t know if I agree with the “even if we lose by 30 and Foster scores 50, oscar’s here to stay” part, but absent something dramatic we’re not getting rid of him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
So, Which one of you guys is Ned? (http://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sorry-haters-clear-weber-is-here-to-stay/article_cea2444c-26d2-5a42-bc5b-0c7bfb599d16.html)

Whoever he is he went to the Bob Lutz school of editorial writing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: joaks01 on March 13, 2018, 03:33:15 PM
Ned’s right. You don’t have to like oscar to understand he’s here for the foreseeable future. Don’t know if I agree with the “even if we lose by 30 and Foster scores 50, oscar’s here to stay” part, but absent something dramatic we’re not getting rid of him.

he’s not saying anything everyone doesn’t already know
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
At this point the Anti-oscar crowd better hope next year's team is as good as advertised.  Because the only way oscar is leaving is if some Blue blood  school wants him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 13, 2018, 03:55:02 PM
There's always a chance that fuckface can chop his head off mowing his own lawn
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 13, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
At this point the Anti-oscar crowd better hope next year's team is as good as advertised.  Because the only way oscar is leaving is if some Blue blood  school wants him.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 13, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
At this point the Anti-oscar crowd better hope next year's team is as good as advertised.  Because the only way oscar is leaving is if some Blue blood  school wants him.

 :lol:

he's a terrible troll but he thinks he's good at this and i guess that's all that matters
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 13, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
At this point the Anti-oscar crowd better hope next year's team is as good as advertised.  Because the only way oscar is leaving is if some Blue blood  school wants him.

 :lol:

he's a terrible troll but he thinks he's good at this and i guess that's all that matters

Man...  if that's not a white flag response I don't know what is.  The sad thing is it's completely true. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 13, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
Sorry h8rs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 13, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 13, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
At this point the Anti-oscar crowd better hope next year's team is as good as advertised.  Because the only way oscar is leaving is if some Blue blood  school wants him.

 :lol:

he's a terrible troll but he thinks he's good at this and i guess that's all that matters

Man...  if that's not a white flag response I don't know what is.  The sad thing is it's completely true. 

you’re so white flag
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/timbisel/status/973646856562585600
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 13, 2018, 07:43:18 PM
Too bad foster wasn't just a little more hubrisier
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/timbisel/status/973646856562585600

eff that, Weber and the guy who wrote that are assholes. Like Weber, the adult, has no responsibility for how the situation was handled.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on March 13, 2018, 08:03:45 PM
Foster and Co. being thrown under the bus by all of the dipshit hillbillies who love oscar saved his job. They've got their POTUS and coach all in one now. Life is good for those rough ridin' inbred sacks of crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 14, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 14, 2018, 02:08:00 PM
Tubby Smith fired from Memphis

(https://forums.rivals.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2F30.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lk372fuagh1qihn7io1_500.gif&hash=2151bf7f61666dcb87871a2b9de2f52d)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 14, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 14, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 14, 2018, 02:08:00 PM
Tubby Smith fired from Memphis

(https://forums.rivals.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2F30.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lk372fuagh1qihn7io1_500.gif&hash=2151bf7f61666dcb87871a2b9de2f52d)

Yeah this whole thing reminds me of the Bob Chipman to KSU days.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 14, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Is there a school at which oscar Weber would fit the culture worse than Memphis?  Please hire him, Memphis!!!!   :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2018, 07:45:21 PM
I could see Pitt calling if they're ok with Crean.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 14, 2018, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 13, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 13, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/timbisel/status/973646856562585600

eff that, Weber and the guy who wrote that are assholes. Like Weber, the adult, has no responsibility for how the situation was handled.

Baby boomers in general are incapable of taking responsibility or requesting that any of their peers do so either. Way too convenient to blame everything on young people and minorities. That article was rough ridin' trash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 14, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
Ugh, Tim Bisel isn't even that old. He has no excuse for being this shitty of a person.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 14, 2018, 09:28:43 PM
Guys knows his audience.  Sports writers are not journalists.  They are entertainers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 14, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 14, 2018, 09:28:43 PM
Guys knows his audience.  Sports writers are not journalists.  They are entertainers.

Can you imagine a more loathsome existence than being an entertainer in Topeka, KS?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 15, 2018, 06:57:49 PM
Crean to Georgia, allegedly.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2018, 07:17:20 PM
SEC is full of good coaches now
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 15, 2018, 08:46:52 PM
https://twitter.com/dan_lyons76/status/974436937296736260?s=21
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2018, 08:49:12 PM
He’s waiting for old ass larranaga to die but hot damn that’s tasty
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 15, 2018, 08:49:48 PM
Dynasty
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
We should hire back Frank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: The Big Train on March 15, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
We should hire back Frank

We are so far beneath him now it’s not funny.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 15, 2018, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: kso_FAN on March 15, 2018, 08:46:52 PM
https://twitter.com/dan_lyons76/status/974436937296736260?s=21

WHOA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 10:48:47 PM
UConn in the American is trash
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bones129 on March 16, 2018, 12:42:30 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 16, 2018, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 14, 2018, 07:45:21 PM
I could see Pitt calling if they're ok with Crean.

8 Pitt players asked for their release. A time to start fresh oscar! Please consider.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2018, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
We should hire back Frank


I would weep with joy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 16, 2018, 01:05:14 PM
I didn’t know that pitt wanted dixon gone and reduced his buyout the year before he left for tcu
whoops I guess
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 16, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
Good timing to offer Greg Marshall.  He might be grumpy after taking phone calls from disappointed Koch people tonight.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 16, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
..."disappointed Koch people"...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 21, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 16, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
Good timing to offer Greg Marshall.  He might be grumpy after taking phone calls from disappointed Koch people tonight.

Definitely worth the offer, although it appears Danny Hurley got a nice offer from U of Pitt yesterday, so maybe Marshall is not in the running. Are Marshall's kids school age? That has to be the only thing keeping him from taking another job? If not, what the hell is he still doing at WSU?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 21, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on March 21, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
what the hell is he still doing at WSU?

(https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/koch_brothers.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
hugh sports guys those koch brothers are
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2018, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 21, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on March 21, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
what the hell is he still doing at WSU?

(https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/koch_brothers.jpg)

Nah, it's because he's unmanageable and the jobs he wants don't want him. He's absolutely put himself out there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 21, 2018, 12:03:27 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 21, 2018, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hatingfrancisco on March 21, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on March 21, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
what the hell is he still doing at WSU?

(https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/koch_brothers.jpg)

Nah, it's because he's unmanageable and the jobs he wants don't want him. He's absolutely put himself out there.

I'm fairly certain those guys can meet their needs with or without Greg Marshall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
LFG, KSU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/defiant-and-wounded-rick-pitino-insists-he-did-nothing-wrong--and-wants-back-in/2018/03/21/681d3616-2c6d-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 21, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
Honestly, I’m glad there is no realistic path to getting Pitino, because I’d want to so badly even though I’m like 75% sure he knew about all that stuff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 22, 2018, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 21, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
Honestly, I’m glad there is no realistic path to getting Pitino, because I’d want to so badly even though I’m like 75% sure he knew about all that stuff.

Ha, exactly. Me too.

You read that sympathetic piece thinking maybe Rick is right, maybe he didn't know, then 7 seconds pass and you're reminded that this is merely the delusion he is trying to craft in order to get a job again. I would participate in that delusion though, totally.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
Becky clearly took a pass, what an incredibly uninspiring hire, even for Colorado State
Quote
Report: Niko Medved to Be Hired as Colorado State Basketball Head Coach
ROB GOLDBERG
MARCH 22, 2018
Colorado State appears set to hire Niko Medved as the next head coach of its men's basketball team, per Evan Daniels of 247Sports.

He will replace Larry Eustachy, who resigned in February partway through his sixth season with the Rams following an investigation into his treatment of players.

Medved was the head coach of Drake last season after spending the previous four years with Furman.

While Drake went just 17-17 this season, it had only 14 wins in the previous two seasons combined. The Bulldogs finished in third place in the Missouri Valley Conference with a 10-8 record.

With Furman, Medved took over a team that won seven games the previous year and improved the record in each of his four seasons. In 2016-17, the Paladins went 23-12 and tied for the Southern Conference's regular-season title.

The 44-year-old coach will now try to create a similar turnaround with Colorado State, where he worked as an assistant for six years—the first five of those under Tim Miles.

The Rams went just 11-21 this season, including 4-14 in the Mountain West Conference.

There are also zero recruits signed for the 2018 class, per 247Sports, although there was only one senior on the roster this past year. There is talent to work with, but Medved could have his work cut out for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sleepy on March 22, 2018, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 10:48:47 PM
UConn in the American is trash

UConn won a national championship while in the American.

And btw they got rid of Kevin Ollie who won that NC and just hired Dan Huxley.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2018, 04:35:17 PM
Would Pitino have to cut his adidas ties to work at Nike's KSU?  Would be a good way to have a clean start free of all that adidas shadiness that cast a dark shadow over him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 22, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
There’s still that stripper deal or whatever that was.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2018, 05:29:39 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 22, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
There’s still that stripper deal or whatever that was.

Harrowing stuff.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblacksportsonline.com%2Fhome%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F07%2FJesus-Shuttlesworth.jpg&hash=c90507bc501ba467fb8dbc81c98dc8b90b7658a6)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2018, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: sleepy on March 22, 2018, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 15, 2018, 10:48:47 PM
UConn in the American is trash

UConn won a national championship while in the American.

And btw they got rid of Kevin Ollie who won that NC and just hired Dan Huxley.

yeah with players they recruited when they were cheating in the Big East. Trash now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 22, 2018, 04:35:17 PM
Would Pitino have to cut his adidas ties to work at Nike's KSU?  Would be a good way to have a clean start free of all that adidas shadiness that cast a dark shadow over him.

oscar will coach here longer than Pitino is alive, unless he's really a vampire.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 23, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Gregggg not wearing a shocker lapel pin...hmm
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
3G was very good last night and he was insightful about the cats, had observations I had hadn't heard
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/977941271779205120?s=19
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2018, 11:31:21 AM
oscar’s Agent is trying to use a team with 2 scholarship players as leverage :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Trim on March 25, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/977941271779205120?s=19


Oh man!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 25, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Oh man!

Never really spent any time in either, but it feels like Pittsburgh might have a Milwaukee vibe.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2018, 12:27:23 PM
Memphis, don't be a dumbass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
Although I’m not sure South Carolina was in much better shape when Frank left, but that was a lot different circumstance.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 25, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: memphis on March 25, 2018, 12:26:28 PM
Quote from: Trim on March 25, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/977941271779205120?s=19

 :pray:

No way, sadly his boy Ice will give him a raise and he and Carl will continue their LTR
NOW if Wojo leaves Marquette, could see Oscar leaving Carl for the chicken nuggets capital Milwaukee
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 25, 2018, 02:14:51 PM
I still think someone will take Oscar from us.  Clean coaches will be a hot commodity.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2018, 04:40:20 PM
You idiots actually hate K-State more than you hate oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sleepy on March 25, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
Tubby Smith expected to become coach at High Point

per Jeff Goodman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22909507/tubby-smith-expected-become-coach-high-point-panthers
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2018, 08:02:38 PM
Putting high school coaching gigs in this thread seems kind of silly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 26, 2018, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: sleepy on March 25, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
Tubby Smith expected to become coach at High Point

per Jeff Goodman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22909507/tubby-smith-expected-become-coach-high-point-panthers
Fitting that they deny his transfer. Tubby gonna make him a man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2018, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 26, 2018, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: sleepy on March 25, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
Tubby Smith expected to become coach at High Point

per Jeff Goodman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22909507/tubby-smith-expected-become-coach-high-point-panthers
Fitting that they deny his transfer. Tubby gonna make him a man.

Good post
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2018, 08:49:48 AM
Louisville is about to land Chris Mack. That would be a hell of a hire. I know Mack has said no to a lot of offers in the past. Xavier is his alumni too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2018, 10:55:53 AM
Capel to Pitt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PIPE on March 27, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2018, 10:55:53 AM
Capel to Pitt

My wife saw him on the bench during the KU/Duke game and said" where do I know that guy from?"

I said he was the coach at OU and burned them down

I would say get ready Pitt for some fire and ash, But that program is already rubble.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2018, 11:44:48 AM
Would there be legit better BBS'ing anywhere if oscar left for another school?

so many facets.  the inevitable argument that we are a better job, people happy he gone, blaming those people he left, discussions of him being cleaner than others...just so many facets
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 27, 2018, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2018, 08:49:48 AM
Louisville is about to land Chris Mack. That would be a hell of a hire. I know Mack has said no to a lot of offers in the past. Xavier is his alumni too.

This is impressive. I'd guess Mack turned down Ohio State last year because they don't focus on basketball like Louisville does. I'd call Mack one of the best available candidates out there, definitely a home run hire for Louisville.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2018, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: PIPE on March 27, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2018, 10:55:53 AM
Capel to Pitt

My wife saw him on the bench during the KU/Duke game and said" where do I know that guy from?"

I said he was the coach at OU and burned them down

I would say get ready Pitt for some fire and ash, But that program is already rubble.

He didn't burn OU down, Christ pipe. He was 96-69 there with an elite eight. He deserved to get fired but he definitely didn't burn anything down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2018, 03:45:24 PM
i wanted capel in manhattan ...
just fire dickwad and hire cape’s before he gets to pitt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ednksu on March 27, 2018, 03:56:00 PM
Amazing hire by Louisville, especially considering the offers Mack had to have had over the years.  Aren't there still huge risks of ncaa penalties associated with the job too?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 27, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
David Padgett is available.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
Mack's wife is from Louisville and X will be taking at least one step back
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2018, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 27, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
Mack's wife is from Louisville and X will be taking at least one step back

Why? They've been very good for five coaches now. They've missed 7 or of the last 33 tournaments and most of those misses were when they were in a one bid league. They are positioned to keep it going, there's no reason they can't pluck a P5 coach. Sean Miller? oscar Pearl? Scott Drew?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 27, 2018, 10:06:14 PM
oscar Weber has been rumored for the Xavier job.
-twitter journalist
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 27, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
COME ON XAVIER!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 28, 2018, 08:03:17 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2018, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 27, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
Mack's wife is from Louisville and X will be taking at least one step back

Why? They've been very good for five coaches now. They've missed 7 or of the last 33 tournaments and most of those misses were when they were in a one bid league. They are positioned to keep it going, there's no reason they can't pluck a P5 coach. Sean Miller? oscar Pearl? Scott Drew?
I should have added next season. No doubt X is a good job but they are losing 3 seniors that are the 3 leading scorers so a mid pack BE finish and a bubble season seems likely. 

I don't believe X is a good enough job to get a proven high major coach like Miller or Pearl w/o the FBI stuff and I doubt they will want to as it has been all young up and comers that have built the program.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2018, 08:23:44 AM
Louisville is also like an hour and half away from Cincinnati, so Mack still isn't that far away from home. Just an unbelievable slam dunk hire by Louisville.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2018, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 28, 2018, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 27, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
COME ON XAVIER!

Coach runs a clean program, players play hard for him, takes school to elite 8.
Pete and others wish him gone; amaze.
Kind of like hating your doctor for cancer remission.
They're too far invested into the BID shtick. They can't turn back now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2018, 09:06:37 AM
Xavier needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2018, 09:10:09 AM
Fandom is a fickle thing. You don’t necessarily realize how invested you are in a team winning or losing until reason is no longer part of the picture and there’s no going back. It’s just how it goes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?
This isn't helping the IPO prospects, Peter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?
Zzzz. Asleep at the wheel, Pete. Keep up the schtick.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?
Zzzz. Asleep at the wheel, Pete. Keep up the schtick.

I admit, you’ve reeled me in on this “schtick” accusation.  Though, I should tell you that much of my interest in this is me wondering whether your conclusion is shaped by some sort of mental impairment.  However, it’s probably just some deal where you resent others who are not like you, you know classic stuff like that.

Well, in any case, I wish you the best and hope you have a good day.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gatoveintisiet on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?


We own a couple web type things, but it’s more people than what you can easily fit in Clams’ BMW.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2018, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?

One username/email address and a cc payment.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 28, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?
This isn't helping the IPO prospects, Peter.


Oh believe me, I am terrible for market cap. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2018, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?

One username/email address and a cc payment.


AND SOME OTHER STUFF!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
Fun owner story....when we gathered to have our papers signing party when we founded this thing, Michael Beasley’s Mom was there have drinks with us! 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: gatoveintisiet on March 28, 2018, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2018, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?

One username/email address and a cc payment.

I didn’t know they made BMW’s that small
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2018, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: Tubesock on March 28, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Serious question, how many people does it take to own a website?

One username/email address and a cc payment.

I didn’t know they made BMW’s that small


They come in all sorts of sizes!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 28, 2018, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 28, 2018, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 27, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
COME ON XAVIER!

Coach runs a clean program, players play hard for him, takes school to elite 8.
Pete and others wish him gone; amaze.
Kind of like hating your doctor for cancer remission.
They're too far invested into the BID shtick. They can't turn back now.

your sucking oscar's male genitals schtick has paid man sized dividends this season, no?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2018, 04:35:21 PM
Got us to the elite 8. You're welcome! :adored:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2018, 05:36:26 PM
lucky
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2018, 05:42:11 PM
well she has an account here so...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 28, 2018, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: justanotherguy on March 28, 2018, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
Fun owner story....when we gathered to have our papers signing party when we founded this thing, Michael Beasley’s Mom was there have drinks with us!
Was able to chat with her.  She used message boards to get a read on several programs.  Know the Pitt sites were disappointing, and our fans were upbeat and funny.  Just goes to show you the power sites like this have.  Wonder how many other recruits or parents have visited GE.
Lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?

Goodness. I bet a couple of very important people who can present a quick and compelling argument why you should.

Disagreement is what message boards are built from but the aggression from the last two pages seem unnecessary and counterintuitive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sleepy on March 30, 2018, 02:02:59 PM
Temple's Fran Dunphy will step aside after next season, be replaced by Aaron McKie

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fran-dunphy-step-aside-next-190521504.html

Dunphy took Temple to the tourney 7 of the past 11 years, but only once in the past 5.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on March 30, 2018, 02:17:49 PM
i remember mckie.  he was a good player.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Justwin on March 30, 2018, 02:53:43 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?

Goodness. I bet a couple of very important people who can present a quick and compelling argument why you should.

Disagreement is what message boards are built from but the aggression from the last two pages seem unnecessary and counterintuitive.

What did you bet them?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 30, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
Fun owner story....when we gathered to have our papers signing party when we founded this thing, Michael Beasley’s Mom was there have drinks with us! 

And that Fat Albert mizzou guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?

Goodness. I bet a couple of very important people who can present a quick and compelling argument why you should.

Disagreement is what message boards are built from but the aggression from the last two pages seem unnecessary and counterintuitive.

I don’t understand a word of that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: renocat on March 30, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
Does mom want to coach or get a gig for Beasley?  I am confused.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:13:30 PM
Well, as of 8 years ago when I last talked to her she was just interested in watching basketball games that her son played in, and maybe eat some appetizers.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?

Goodness. I bet a couple of very important people who can present a quick and compelling argument why you should.

Disagreement is what message boards are built from but the aggression from the last two pages seem unnecessary and counterintuitive.

I don’t understand a word of that.

I'll gladly break it down for you then.

This website has been the catalyst for some really good things that has happened out of really shitty situations. I believe, people want these good things to continue. This message board, at least relatively recently, was something more than a few friends blowing time.

If this message board is going to continue to be a vehicle for raising money to help students I think it's counterproductive to tell, level headed posters like IPA4Me that you don't give two shits. I didn't take his criticism of you one of your opinion but how you tend to present this particular one. Then you doubled down, probably a bad look.

Dunno though, you do you man, it just doesn't seem like a great plan to alienate potential donors just because you want to troll oscar Weber and K-State basketball fans without someone taking exception. Doesn't bother me either way, I think your fish out of water way of trolling is funny as hell but everyone isn't me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:38:04 PM
Oh, gotcha.  I will triple down, then...because I really don’t give a crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2018, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 28, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: IPA4Me on March 28, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
This stupidity just pushes gE further into obsolescence.


Serious question:  Do you think I, or any of the other owners of this site, give two shits?

Goodness. I bet a couple of very important people who can present a quick and compelling argument why you should.

Disagreement is what message boards are built from but the aggression from the last two pages seem unnecessary and counterintuitive.

I don’t understand a word of that.

I'll gladly break it down for you then.

This website has been the catalyst for some really good things that has happened out of really shitty situations. I believe, people want these good things to continue. This message board, at least relatively recently, was something more than a few friends blowing time.

If this message board is going to continue to be a vehicle for raising money to help students I think it's counterproductive to tell, level headed posters like IPA4Me that you don't give two shits. I didn't take his criticism of you one of your opinion but how you tend to present this particular one. Then you doubled down, probably a bad look.

Dunno though, you do you man, it just doesn't seem like a great plan to alienate potential donors just because you want to troll oscar Weber and K-State basketball fans without someone taking exception. Doesn't bother me either way, I think your fish out of water way of trolling is funny as hell but everyone isn't me.

good grief
send that to the word
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
(https://m.popkey.co/f780f0/4Md86_s-200x150.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 31, 2018, 12:42:41 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 30, 2018, 10:13:30 PM
Well, as of 8 years ago when I last talked to her she was just interested in watching basketball games that her son played in, and maybe eat some appetizers.

When the gE book is written, there will be a chapter about the Women of Houlihan's.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2018, 08:25:28 AM
that's a good chapter
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 26, 2019, 03:05:19 PM
Hoiberg to huskguy?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2019, 03:54:44 PM
oscar to Arkansas  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 26, 2019, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2019, 03:54:44 PM
oscar to Arkansas  :horrorsurprise:

He would be nuts to take that, Anderson was blindsided, evidently his support of renaming the court after the best coach in Arky history Nolan meant Mike was history. That firing will further divide an already toxic place.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2019, 08:18:03 AM
Arkansas needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 27, 2019, 11:34:41 AM
It would be a shame to see him go but I have to concur that oscar to Arky is a match made in heaven
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 27, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
...hog heaven.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2019, 11:38:42 AM
Kelvin will do well at Arkansas I think. SEC is going to be loaded.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 27, 2019, 11:41:22 AM
Shame on all of you.

Shame.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2019, 11:57:18 AM
gotta admit it would be great to hear oscar do the pig sooie in his squeaky voice
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on March 27, 2019, 12:53:41 PM
oscar's weird faces are a pretty good match for the noises that a real pig makes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2019, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: SkinnyBenny on March 27, 2019, 11:34:41 AM
It would be a shame to see him go but I have to concur that oscar to Arky is a match made in heaven

They go together like bacon bits and vanilla chicken nuggets.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Yeah, Kelvin is going to Arkansas, but nice try guys!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2019, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Yeah, Kelvin is going to Arkansas, but nice try guys!

I wouldn't take it if I were him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
Me neither.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2019, 11:22:46 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2019, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Yeah, Kelvin is going to Arkansas, but nice try guys!

I wouldn't take it if I were him.

Why?  Is it because of Arkansas or just because you think he could do better?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2019, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2019, 11:22:46 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 27, 2019, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 27, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Yeah, Kelvin is going to Arkansas, but nice try guys!

I wouldn't take it if I were him.

Why?  Is it because of Arkansas or just because you think he could do better?

Both. The only thing they could provide him that he doesn't already have is more money, and I hate everything having to do with the University of Houston.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KST8FAN on March 30, 2019, 12:21:22 PM
Sources: Hoiberg expected to be Huskers' coach https://es.pn/2YBVw6j
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Tom

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
Quote from: KST8FAN on March 30, 2019, 12:21:22 PM
Sources: Hoiberg expected to be Huskers' coach https://es.pn/2YBVw6j
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If I was an ISU fan, I would murder everyone in ISU administration. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kashi1965 on March 30, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
was hoiberg not a highly desired college coach? I'm surprised he took the NU job when i thought he could do a lot better.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2019, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: kashi1965 on March 30, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
was hoiberg not a highly desired college coach? I'm surprised he took the NU job when i thought he could do a lot better.
Yeah I thought UCLA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 30, 2019, 05:10:36 PM
NU is paying him very well, and his grandfather coached there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 30, 2019, 08:41:40 PM
cal hired mark fox
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Bill Clarahan on March 31, 2019, 09:16:09 AM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2019, 03:54:44 PM
oscar to Arkansas  :horrorsurprise:

If only  :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 31, 2019, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: dal9 on March 30, 2019, 08:41:40 PM
cal hired mark fox

Their fans have to be just thrilled.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kashi1965 on March 31, 2019, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on March 30, 2019, 05:10:36 PM
NU is paying him very well, and his grandfather coached there.
im not familiar with college BB hc salaries. where does Hoibergs new contract with neb sit in comparison to others?
i didn't see many comments about how outrageously big it was
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2019, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 30, 2019, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: kashi1965 on March 30, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
was hoiberg not a highly desired college coach? I'm surprised he took the NU job when i thought he could do a lot better.
Yeah I thought UCLA

NU people are happy but very much all like, “how TF did we land him?” about it


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2019, 02:01:41 PM
on one hand, i love that isu got boned by their prodigal son.  and that jaime pollard in typical isu insecure fashion decided to pay prohm $2M per year (which is $700k more than chris beard makes) and extend him to 2022.  on the other hand i want nothing but bad things for nebraska and hope that hoiberg (proven nba loser) fails miserably at NU because i hate nebraska fans only slightly less than iowa state rubes.  i mean, even though it was about 75 years ago since they had an athletic department worth a crap, they did have one at one time.  which is more than iowa state will ever be able to say.  because they will always be the bottom of the barrel in anything that they do. forever.  go cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 31, 2019, 04:39:57 PM
I saw a ton of "wtf i love the Big 10 now" tweets.

annoying
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kenneth Noisewater on March 31, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 31, 2019, 02:01:41 PM
on one hand, i love that isu got boned by their prodigal son.  and that jaime pollard in typical isu insecure fashion decided to pay prohm $2M per year (which is $700k more than chris beard makes) and extend him to 2022.  on the other hand i want nothing but bad things for nebraska and hope that hoiberg (proven nba loser) fails miserably at NU because i hate nebraska fans only slightly less than iowa state rubes.  i mean, even though it was about 75 years ago since they had an athletic department worth a crap, they did have one at one time.  which is more than iowa state will ever be able to say.  because they will always be the bottom of the barrel in anything that they do. forever.  go cats.

100% agreement. This is the post of the year, IMO.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
The eye on college basketball podcast made it very clear from the start that Hoiberg would not be a candidate at UCLA. I think it was mentioned but he was born in Lincoln and his whole family are huskers, he moved to Ames in high school. Also with regard to him and ISU, he did not have the best relationship with his athletic director. Remember after he left Iowa State, he leaked that story about Pollard not booking enough nights in a hotel after the Diamond Head Classic and the team had to sleep in a ballroom with no beds or bedding.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 01, 2019, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: kashi1965 on March 31, 2019, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on March 30, 2019, 05:10:36 PM
NU is paying him very well, and his grandfather coached there.
im not familiar with college BB hc salaries. where does Hoibergs new contract with neb sit in comparison to others?
i didn't see many comments about how outrageously big it was

I think I heard it was $3.5m/yr....which is top 10/15 I think.  If this link is accurate, then that holds true:  https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/ (https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/)




Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 01, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
sucks that Nebraska might now have a shot to end "the streak" of 2 billion years without an ncaa tournament win
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 01, 2019, 09:53:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on April 01, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
sucks that Nebraska might now have a shot to end "the streak" of 2 billion years without an ncaa tournament win

This is one of my favorite streaks in sports.  I am worried they will get to end it in a play-in game at some point and I will be furious.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2019, 10:29:50 AM
the streak may end but it won't be because hoiberg is some coaching genius. he's not.
the best he was able to do at the crap hole in ames was tie for 2nd in the b12 and that took him 5 years to accomplish.

12th  (lol)
3rd
4th
3rd
2nd

those are his b12 finishes by year.  his .557 winning percentage in b12 conference games is only slightly better than king oscar's .548
the big 10 might be a slightly easier league than the b12 but it's not by much.  and he's completely building (not rebuilding) from the ground up, a roster and a program in a place where the venerable danny nee (lol) is looked upon as a God (lol) even though he was canned by the university in the same season he become the program's winningest coach.

he was easily the worst coach in the nba before getting canned.  nebraska would have been better off hiring tyronn lue.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 01, 2019, 10:37:44 AM
seems like nebraska still fills up their basketball arena to watch this perennial loser, they are thirsty for even a little success now that they are a basketball school, so they could make the devaney center a tough place to play.  my 2cts
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2019, 11:03:46 AM
He hates recruiting by all accounts so he’s going to need a couple of assistants that are delonte types
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
sports ratings by level of importance to nebraska residents
husker pigskin
creighton hoops
husker volleyball

husker men's hoops
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kslim on April 01, 2019, 03:14:10 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 01, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
sports ratings by level of importance to nebraska residents
husker pigskin
Ku hoops
creighton hoops
husker volleyball

husker men's hoops
wrnt ahead and fixed that for ya
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kashi1965 on April 01, 2019, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2019, 11:03:46 AM
He hates recruiting by all accounts so he’s going to need a couple of assistants that are delonte types
as i recall hoiberg feasts off the transfers. so he only needs a few weeks each  year to recruit. seeing how many transfers are playing such a big role on these final 4 teams begs the question how much are the transfers being paid?
they appear to be almost a necessity to win big nowadays
and weber can't get one which tells me they are getting paid
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1113427589069037568?s=21

Sheesh
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 03, 2019, 10:10:18 AM
Ha ha eff TCU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 03, 2019, 10:14:54 AM
Ouch.  Leaving the Alma mater? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cas4ksu on April 03, 2019, 11:01:05 AM
doubt there are many coaches lining up to take over at TCU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: surly on April 03, 2019, 11:25:51 AM
alford would be fun.  maybe frank could come back.  i'm sure they wouldn't miss his sorry ass in carolina. :Woot:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 03, 2019, 11:31:53 AM
Bring Doc back to the big 12.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on April 03, 2019, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: kashi1965 on April 01, 2019, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 01, 2019, 11:03:46 AM
He hates recruiting by all accounts so he’s going to need a couple of assistants that are delonte types
as i recall hoiberg feasts off the transfers. so he only needs a few weeks each  year to recruit. seeing how many transfers are playing such a big role on these final 4 teams begs the question how much are the transfers being paid?
they appear to be almost a necessity to win big nowadays
and weber can't get one which tells me they are getting paid

It seems lots of squads, some with success, some without success, are getting transfers. It's more a general change in the environment affecting most every program. Now that we're in the Final 4, idiot media push idiot talking points about how "transfers get you to the final 4".

Also, fwiw, Nebraska is a sleeping giant, they show up to that arena. Not sure Fred is the guy to activate the wins, but he's better than Tim Miles. The Big Ten, right now, is a beast however.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 11:50:40 AM
Not sure how serious they are about good basketball but they should try to get Gregg Marshall.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1113427589069037568?s=21

Sheesh

LOL, what's the opposite of a blue blood? Blue bloods don't hire someone who has proven he isn't a championship coach. They just hired the, at best, 6th best coach in the Big 12 conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1113427589069037568?s=21

Sheesh

LOL, what's the opposite of a blue blood? Blue bloods don't hire someone who has proven he isn't a championship coach. They just hired the, at best, 6th best coach in the Big 12 conference.

Supposedly he has an 8 million dollar buyout at TCU and is trying to negotiate it down to 1 million.   I think at this point their status has been revoked.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 03, 2019, 01:40:08 PM
what do you do with the giant jamie dixon free throw distraction crazy arms guy thing?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: #LIFE on April 03, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Why isn't anyone after the great Fuckface Weber?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2019, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 03, 2019, 01:40:08 PM
what do you do with the giant jamie dixon free throw distraction crazy arms guy thing?

You rig it up so you can move the arms from a safe distance and then you lower it into a big burning dumpster, making it wave its arms frantically as it burns. Also get the whole thing on film. That's what you do with it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on April 03, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Why isn't anyone after the great Fuckface Weber?

He's 62 years old. There can't be a sane person in America who thinks Jamie Dixon is a better coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 03, 2019, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2019, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 03, 2019, 01:40:08 PM
what do you do with the giant jamie dixon free throw distraction crazy arms guy thing?

You rig it up so you can move the arms from a safe distance and then you lower it into a big burning dumpster, making it wave its arms frantically as it burns. Also get the whole thing on film. That's what you do with it.

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 03, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
Any good posts from TCU boards? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 03, 2019, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on April 03, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Why isn't anyone after the great Fuckface Weber?

He's 62 years old. There can't be a sane person in America who thinks Jamie Dixon is a better coach.

Better win percentage, better record of making the tournament for Dixon.

I do think oscar is probably better but there is an argument to be made.  oscar has had more teams that can compete for titles/top seeds and I'm not sure the Dixon can do that.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 03, 2019, 09:13:03 PM
Funny that Dixon would get the UCLA job after being brought up in the Ben Howland coaching tree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bunter on April 04, 2019, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on April 03, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Why isn't anyone after the great Roughfacerider Weber?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bunter on April 04, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 03, 2019, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: #LIFE on April 03, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Why isn't anyone after the great Roughfacerider Weber?

He's 62 years old. There can't be a sane person in America who thinks Jamie Dixon is a better coach.

Better win percentage, better record of making the tournament for Dixon.

I do think oscar is probably better but there is an argument to be made.  oscar has had more teams that can compete for titles/top seeds and I'm not sure the Dixon can do that.

A lay observer could even note that this year kind of represents Oscars only 'built it myself' achievement. Dixon made TCU competitive after having done some good stuff at Pitt.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
You do know he built SIU into a sweet 16 team, right? Also built last years elite 8 team and played two years in a row without his best player. More like boner, amirite guys?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bunter on April 04, 2019, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 04, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
You do know he built SIU into a sweet 16 team, right? Also built last years elite 8 team and played two years in a row without his best player. More like boner, amirite guys?

I did misspeak when I said this year, I meant class, and you got me on the SIU stuff. But stacked up against Dixon I think my comment still has merit. Last year was the first time Weber advanced to the S16 since coaching Billy's recruits at Illinois. While Dixon inherited a great team from Howland, 4 years later he had his 'own' players in the Elite 8. And then took a pretty bad TCU team and made the tourney and won the NIT. Also boner would probably be a name upgrade, but not because of what/how you said [it].
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on April 05, 2019, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1113427589069037568?s=21

Sheesh

LOL, what's the opposite of a blue blood? Blue bloods don't hire someone who has proven he isn't a championship coach. They just hired the, at best, 6th best coach in the Big 12 conference.

Supposedly he has an 8 million dollar buyout at TCU and is trying to negotiate it down to 1 million.   I think at this point their status has been revoked.
You hear about this type of thing, but it has never made sense to me.  I mean, "Gee, we agreed on this giant buyout so I wouldn't screw you over...BUT I decided to screw you over anyway and figure you were just kinda messing around.  Can you cut me some slack?"

I mean...how do coaches succeed in "negotiating" buyouts down like this?  It seems like they should have zero leverage for any kind of negotiation, but I must be missing something.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 05, 2019, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: TheProdigiousTalent on April 05, 2019, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 03, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1113427589069037568?s=21

Sheesh

LOL, what's the opposite of a blue blood? Blue bloods don't hire someone who has proven he isn't a championship coach. They just hired the, at best, 6th best coach in the Big 12 conference.

Supposedly he has an 8 million dollar buyout at TCU and is trying to negotiate it down to 1 million.   I think at this point their status has been revoked.
You hear about this type of thing, but it has never made sense to me.  I mean, "Gee, we agreed on this giant buyout so I wouldn't screw you over...BUT I decided to screw you over anyway and figure you were just kinda messing around.  Can you cut me some slack?"

I mean...how do coaches succeed in "negotiating" buyouts down like this?  It seems like they should have zero leverage for any kind of negotiation, but I must be missing something.

dig up as much dirt as you can on the AD while you're there and if they have some skeletons threaten to go nuclear unless they negotiate that buyout down.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 05, 2019, 12:02:46 PM
TCU's AD should call Jeff Long and see if he has any extra closet hookers laying around lawrencetucky.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 05, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
There would have to be some dirt on the AD to talk them down 7 million on a buyout. I get you don’t wanna seem cash strapped or difficult to work with, but that’s a whole different level.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2019, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: bunter on April 04, 2019, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on April 04, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
You do know he built SIU into a sweet 16 team, right? Also built last years elite 8 team and played two years in a row without his best player. More like boner, amirite guys?

I did misspeak when I said this year, I meant class, and you got me on the SIU stuff. But stacked up against Dixon I think my comment still has merit. Last year was the first time Weber advanced to the S16 since coaching Billy's recruits at Illinois. While Dixon inherited a great team from Howland, 4 years later he had his 'own' players in the Elite 8. And then took a pretty bad TCU team and made the tourney and won the NIT. Also boner would probably be a name upgrade, but not because of what/how you said [it].

It's mostly his team but Alex Robinson, JD Miller, and Jalen Fisher were not recruited by Dixon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 06, 2019, 06:32:53 PM
So Dixon is not leaving TCU. LOL.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2019, 06:41:11 PM
Oh, man. Reported caused by the $8M buyout. Looks like a fail, but you gotta think UCLA actually dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on April 06, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: chum1 on April 06, 2019, 06:41:11 PM
Oh, man. Reported caused by the $8M buyout. Looks like a fail, but you gotta think UCLA actually dodged a bullet there.
is dixon gonna be all pissed off at tcu/his team now?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 06, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
How embarrassing for him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
I can't believe that UCLA wouldn't pay at least enough of the buyout to make Dixon want to front the rest, of course these are the same people who offered Calipari a pay cut.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2019, 08:56:11 AM
UCLA needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2019, 09:15:06 AM
I assume leaking the buyout talk was an attempt for Dixon to push TCU to the table with "He doesn't really want to be here."  Kudos to TCU to know their place and go "Nobody does, see you on Monday"

How was Barnes behind Dixon as an option?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2019, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2019, 08:56:11 AM
UCLA needs oscar Weber.

Why would he take a worse job?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 08, 2019, 11:46:52 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2019, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2019, 08:56:11 AM
UCLA needs oscar Weber.

Why would he take a worse job?

for one, lawn mowing season is all 12 months in sunny LA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 08, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
UCLA offering Barnes $5m/yr and that does not include incentives. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
He's got a big buyout too, 5 or 6 million.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2019, 04:20:40 PM
I’m embarrassed for them
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 08, 2019, 08:26:31 PM
Barnes is almost 65.  Surprised UCLA would be going after a guy that old.  I guess they want someone who can succeed fast so the next hire is easier? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2019, 08:33:40 PM
They apparently interviewed Lon Kruger as well
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 08, 2019, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2019, 08:33:40 PM
They apparently interviewed Lon Kruger as well

Lon was on OKC sports radio this morning and laughed when they asked him about UCLA and said he hasn’t talked to them and that he’s too old to want to start over.

But coaches lie a lot, so who knows


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 08, 2019, 08:51:35 PM
Rick Barnes is a whopping two years younger than Kruger (64 to 66).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 08, 2019, 09:34:40 PM
Wow, UCLA.

https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/1115436942781571074
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2019, 11:13:18 PM
Predictable, he's got a better job. What I really don't get about this search is there are so many coaches they could get, great mid major coaches, why go after the guys they did. They could have had any of these coaches and all of them are better than Jamie Dixon and better fits than Rick Barnes
Eric Musselman
John Becker
Russell Turner
Matt McMahon
Chris Jans
Travis Decurie
Jans is the next Chris Beard.

Did they call Wojo? Mike White?

What a complete shambolic search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 09, 2019, 12:41:36 AM
I truly wish I would’ve been paying more attention this whole time. I mean it’s not Currie-going-after-Schiano level of entertainment, but it has quite a few of its own LOLs, for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2019, 08:07:32 AM
I don’t know a lot about it but from Twitter it sounds like UCLA is a PItA because all of the ex players try to be super involved and helicoptery. Also saw someone refer to it as the Tennessee football of basketball jobs which is a different situation but also a bad job despite being big time.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2019, 09:22:54 AM
Good move by Barnes.  He has a great thing going at Tennessee.  UCLA sounds like a mess. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2019, 09:41:28 AM
Quote from: steve dave on April 09, 2019, 08:07:32 AM
I don’t know a lot about it but from Twitter it sounds like UCLA is a PItA because all of the ex players try to be super involved and helicoptery. Also saw someone refer to it as the Tennessee football of basketball jobs which is a different situation but also a bad job despite being big time.


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do they have money issues similar to Cal? I'm sure they're not as in as terrible shape but still
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2019, 09:59:35 AM
I was wondering why Beard hasn't hit the radar and figured some of it was his team still playing in the tournament.  Then I saw Hocutt got a $12m buyout on his deal :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2019, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.

Damn that’s a good get
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
Cronin is not a bad consolation prize for UCLA.  Really seemed like they were looking for a high floor more than a high ceiling
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2019, 01:47:22 PM
mick once penned a book entitled, "Hello, Bearcat!" and i fully suspect he will author a second in the series, hopefully he names it "Hello, Bruin!". 
time will tell.  lets roll to purple along with mick as he celebrates his new job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 09, 2019, 02:34:57 PM
 :cheers:  to purple, mick
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2019, 03:36:00 PM
mick, let's get kick ball drunk tonight bro  :drink:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on April 11, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.

Coach K to Duke, surprised he is leaving his alma mater at Army, risky move
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 11, 2019, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 09, 2019, 03:36:00 PM
mick, let's get kick ball drunk tonight bro  :drink:

THE WORD
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2019, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: ELL3 on April 11, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.

Coach K to Duke, surprised he is leaving his alma mater at Army, risky move

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on April 12, 2019, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: ELL3 on April 11, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.

Coach K to Duke, surprised he is leaving his alma mater at Army, risky move

haha, I just realized he has been there since 2010.  It popped up on my twitter feed and I thought it was new info..... Damn twitter!!
 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 12, 2019, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: dmartin on April 12, 2019, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: ELL3 on April 11, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: dmartin on April 09, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
Altman to Oregon.

Coach K to Duke, surprised he is leaving his alma mater at Army, risky move

haha, I just realized he has been there since 2010.  It popped up on my twitter feed and I thought it was new info..... Damn twitter!!
Holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2019, 04:22:03 PM
yeah whoa
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 12, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
Wow.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on April 12, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
I thought that was a joke dmartin. A good joke too. :(
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2019, 07:50:03 PM
Same. I thought it was over my head for a bit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: schreds21 on April 12, 2019, 09:16:51 PM
Yes, I was thoroughly confused.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 12, 2019, 10:54:16 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3df58c7a95d1f78054c33cd058418872/tenor.gif?itemid=9971274)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on April 14, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
Northern kentucky guy is now at Cincinnati, Andy Kennedy may get Southern Miss job (Mike Anderson turned it down)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on April 15, 2019, 07:25:49 AM
Let's just file this one to the Shame Yourself thread....
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1118124473725722625?s=21


Rumblings korn dog is right behind him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2019, 08:04:18 AM
That blows
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kearneymen on April 16, 2019, 08:59:14 AM
Sucks for us, but makes total sense for him.  He is from the area and will probably recruit the area well.  After hearing him on the radio a few times he seems like head coach material and probably needs the additional experience.  Wish him the best.


Until a new coach is hired I will hold out stupid hope that Mitch Richmond is coming home!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 16, 2019, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 16, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1118124473725722625?s=21


Rumblings korn dog is right behind him.
Chet was my favorite.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2019, 10:16:19 AM
Hoping oscar gets the stud recruiter from Vandy that played for him on the runner up team at Illinois.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 16, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 16, 2019, 10:16:19 AM
Hoping oscar gets the stud recruiter from Vandy that played for him on the runner up team at Illinois.

:love:  I didn't know about this connection but knew Vandy was getting recruits (but still sucking) somehow.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: rob mccolley on April 18, 2019, 12:13:29 AM
Quote from: ChiCat on April 16, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 16, 2019, 10:16:19 AM
Hoping oscar gets the stud recruiter from Vandy that played for him on the runner up team at Illinois.

:love:  I didn't know about this connection but new Vandy was getting recruits (but still sucking) somehow.

Evidently The Reverend Roger Powell is joining the Gonzaga staff.

Dee Brown is an assistant at UIC. He could be your Chicago recruiter.

Or maybe a KSU alum should get the job. Is Shane Southwell ready to move up?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2019, 06:25:55 AM
I think Drew Speraw is much more likely than Southwell if an internal hire is made.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on April 18, 2019, 08:28:01 AM
more like Drew Spemaw
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on May 13, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
Beilein leaving surprised me.  Will be interesting to see who Michigan gets at this point in the process.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 13, 2019, 11:23:30 AM
oscar rumblings  :angry:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2019, 11:46:03 AM
Michigan needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 13, 2019, 11:49:53 AM
While investigating these oscar-michigan rumblings, came across this:

Quote
THE STUPID-LOOKING oscar WEBER PICTURES

https://mgoblog.com/content/death-above-illinois-0
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 13, 2019, 12:02:03 PM
being told that oscar knew about beilein leaving for several weeks now, and michigan men in the background have been vetting oscar (why he hasn't filled the open position created by Chet Frazier leaving for VT) since the ncaa tournament.  also told that 4 out of 5 members of the Fab Five are on board with oscar, not sure which one isn't on board, but my gut says it's Jalen Rose, take that fwiw fyi. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2019, 12:51:49 PM
if the rumors that i'm hearing are true, and i'm sure that they are, oscar is about to have a big 10 payday
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on May 13, 2019, 01:05:07 PM
Illinois must want him back.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 13, 2019, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: pissclams on May 13, 2019, 12:51:49 PM
if the rumors that i'm hearing are true, and i'm sure that they are, oscar is about to have a big 10 payday

Let the Chris Lowery Dynasty begin!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cas4ksu on May 13, 2019, 01:59:15 PM
Brad Korn for Head Coach!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 8manpick on May 15, 2019, 08:35:58 AM
oscar got a new job!




USA U19s coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 15, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
Lets Roll oscar to Gold
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on May 15, 2019, 09:09:32 AM
Good recruiting opportunity?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on May 16, 2019, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 13, 2019, 12:02:03 PM
being told that oscar knew about beilein leaving for several weeks now, and michigan men in the background have been vetting oscar (why he hasn't filled the open position created by Chet Frazier leaving for VT) since the ncaa tournament.  also told that 4 out of 5 members of the Fab Five are on board with oscar, not sure which one isn't on board, but my gut says it's Jalen Rose, take that fwiw fyi. 



:surprised:

https://twitter.com/JalenandJacoby/status/1129086612300795904
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 16, 2019, 02:40:12 PM
yeah, guess it feels good to be right.  jalen may be the only thing standing between us and a boring coaching search.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on May 21, 2019, 01:00:20 PM
assistant coach/staff promotions:
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2019/5/17/mens-basketball-henderson-southwell-promoted-on-k-state-coaching-staff.aspx

interesting tidbit is that Sneed was academic All-Big 12 last 2 years
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 21, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
why is that an interesting tidbit?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 21, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
why is that an interesting tidbit?

That’s what Bukaty was yelling at him at Allen Fieldhouse while he maniacally waved the paper at him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on May 21, 2019, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 21, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
why is that an interesting tidbit?

he's apparently the only two-timer...only other person mentioned was barry, who was all-academic once...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on May 21, 2019, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on May 21, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 21, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
why is that an interesting tidbit?

That’s what Bukaty was yelling at him at Allen Fieldhouse while he maniacally waved the paper at him.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GRADES THIS SEMESTER
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2019, 08:22:52 AM
um, yeah, that's not what bukaty was saying
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dmartin on May 22, 2019, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 13, 2019, 12:02:03 PM
being told that oscar knew about beilein leaving for several weeks now, and michigan men in the background have been vetting oscar (why he hasn't filled the open position created by Chet Frazier leaving for VT) since the ncaa tournament.  also told that 4 out of 5 members of the Fab Five are on board with oscar, not sure which one isn't on board, but my gut says it's Jalen Rose, take that fwiw fyi.

Guessing Jalen Rose wasn't the hold out:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1131263721500811265
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2021, 10:45:34 AM
KIM!  :love:

https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1374377545072664579
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2021, 11:51:43 AM
Damn he made it up fast.  He can’t be more than like 30 can he?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
32. Watch the staff he assembles.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
32. Watch the staff he assembles.

Who you think he’s going to get? I feel like you are foreshadowing him taking Shane or something
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2021, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 23, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
32. Watch the staff he assembles.

Who you think he’s going to get? I feel like you are foreshadowing him taking Shane or something

I think he may end up with some names we're familiar with.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 23, 2021, 08:36:28 PM
If he and Shane Southwell are out there, they are going to get a lot of in home visit requests from a lot of moms.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2021, 07:32:24 AM
Can we just hire Kim out from under that commuter school with a 20 year deal or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2021, 08:59:52 AM
did Carl Ice tell oscar to stay another year so he could see how Kim did as a HC, and then we take Kim next season after oscar misses the tourney again?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2021, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: meow meow on March 24, 2021, 08:59:52 AM
did Carl Ice tell oscar to stay another year so he could see how Kim did as a HC, and then we take Kim next season after oscar misses the tourney again?  :Wha:

I certainly assume so.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2021, 01:55:12 PM
2 of the 3 big 12 coaches that lost to oscar are out. Tcu’s coach is on borrowed time.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning

Yes, who will OU hire that will make K-State fans freak out about because we didn't. They will almost definitely hire a mid major coach, maybe this is Porter Moser's landing spot.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 25, 2021, 02:07:11 PM
I could see OU hiring Gregg.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
No chance. It was less than a year ago that he lost 8 scholarship players. Very few high major schools, especially a program as good as OU, needs to take that gamble. They are a very good program that actually doesn't care enough about basketball to deal with the rightful PR hit.

Gregg will need to go to a real low major or even a juco for his next job. His issue was way too high profile for anyone to touch him anytime soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 25, 2021, 02:20:10 PM
Mark Turd.

Take it to the bank.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning

Yes, who will OU hire that will make K-State fans freak out about because we didn't. They will almost definitely hire a mid major coach, maybe this is Porter Moser's landing spot.

Would Kelvin go back there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning

Yes, who will OU hire that will make K-State fans freak out about because we didn't. They will almost definitely hire a mid major coach, maybe this is Porter Moser's landing spot.

Would Kelvin go back there?

I think Houston spends more money on basketball than Oklahoma does. Would they be willing to give Kelvin a jet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning

Yes, who will OU hire that will make K-State fans freak out about because we didn't. They will almost definitely hire a mid major coach, maybe this is Porter Moser's landing spot.

Would Kelvin go back there?

I think Houston spends more money on basketball than Oklahoma does. Would they be willing to give Kelvin a jet?

Dayum didn’t know he had it like that
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Lonny boy retiring at OU, that’s a pretty good job and should get this bitch spinning

Yes, who will OU hire that will make K-State fans freak out about because we didn't. They will almost definitely hire a mid major coach, maybe this is Porter Moser's landing spot.

Would Kelvin go back there?

I think Houston spends more money on basketball than Oklahoma does. Would they be willing to give Kelvin a jet?

Dayum didn’t know he had it like that

All of the high major programs in mid major conferences do. Houston is a little different because the other schools like this; Wichita State, Gonzaga, Villanova, Marquette, etc. either don't have football at all or don't have FBS football. However, there are a couple of families around Houston athletics that aren't at all shy about spending a crap ton of money on sports. They have a couple of families like the Koch's in Wichita.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2021, 03:08:19 PM
given the way OU recruited I always assumed they spent plenty on hoops
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2021, 03:20:00 PM
it will be Mills from ORU and he will bring Abmas and Obanor with him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 03:25:08 PM
Have to think CJ Noland is back in play, maybe Rylen Griffen too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KST8FAN on March 25, 2021, 08:07:22 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/oklahoma-coaching-candidates-grant-mccasland-paul-mills-or-mark-turgeon-could-be-fits-to-replace-lon-kruger/amp/

If you're Turgeon and want the KU job does going head to head and winning against a weakened KU put you in position?


Tom

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 08:09:52 PM
He will never sniff the KU job
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 25, 2021, 03:08:19 PM
given the way OU recruited I always assumed they spent plenty on hoops

They do spend plenty but those private schools go the extra mile. I haven't checked in a couple of years but at one time Marquette spent more money on basketball than any other school in the country, Creighton was like 3rd or 4th.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 08:09:52 PM
He will never sniff the KU job

He sure won't, he had a much better chance of it if Self went back to Oklahoma State while Turgeon was still at Wichita State. He hasn't been nearly successful enough at Maryland to be a viable candidate at OU, he certainly wouldn't be at KU.

I think that list is super lazy, it's just people with either OU or Big 12 ties. It's like the author got that list straight from soonerfans. I do think Mills and McCasland will be candidates but they aren't at the top of the list. Mills has never finished better fourth in the Summit League and McCasland only one the Sun Belt once and that was last year, they slid back this year.

Those hires would be just worse than Otzelberger.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
BTW, old school gE'ers will be sad to know that soonerfans isn't a thing anymore. The board is still there but there hasn't been a post in two years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:48:01 PM
I didn't realize that Lon's kid got the UNLV job. Lon is moving back to Vegas. UNLV might have the best unpaid assistant OAT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:48:01 PM
I didn't realize that Lon's kid got the UNLV job. Lon is moving back to Vegas. UNLV might have the best unpaid assistant OAT.

His kid looks 50 but is 37 it’s pretty wild
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 26, 2021, 06:44:13 AM
Lon can eat crap for leaving us high and dry. Hope his kid gets fired


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
BTW, old school gE'ers will be sad to know that soonerfans isn't a thing anymore. The board is still there but there hasn't been a post in two years.

What happened?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstate4life on March 26, 2021, 10:35:13 AM
Holy Shaka!

https://247sports.com/Article/Shaka-Smart-reaches-agreement-Marquette-basketball-coach-Texas-Longhorns-163110649/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 26, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
BTW, old school gE'ers will be sad to know that soonerfans isn't a thing anymore. The board is still there but there hasn't been a post in two years.

What happened?

Dunno, looks like it just ran out of posters
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 26, 2021, 10:43:09 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1375473021000032260
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 10:44:36 AM
I, like most of us, really like UT but this was a great move by Shaka. He'll do well in the Big East. This is the best case scenario for a coach looking to do a job reset.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 10:47:52 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 26, 2021, 10:43:09 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1375473021000032260

This is stupid. Like, why would he do that? His program is already better than UT. It's not like he's had a hard time getting players to Tech.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
I would rather live in Austin than Lubbock, I'm guessing that would be one reason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on March 26, 2021, 11:00:33 AM
Much less effort required to recruit to UT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 26, 2021, 11:12:48 AM
did not realize that in his 5 seasons at UT, Shaka won exactly 0 NCAA tournament games. crazy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 26, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 26, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
I would rather live in Austin than Lubbock, I'm guessing that would be one reason.
You obviously haven’t been to Austin lately.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2021, 11:42:41 AM
Good for Shaka, Who is the leader in the clubhouse to takeover at UT?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 26, 2021, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: Dirty Deeds on March 26, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 26, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
I would rather live in Austin than Lubbock, I'm guessing that would be one reason.
You obviously haven’t been to Austin lately.


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But maybe he's been to Lubbock ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 26, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
I would rather live in Austin than Lubbock, I'm guessing that would be one reason.

I will say that I didn't know he's a UT alum. Since he left Austin in 1995 here are the places he's worked and lived
San Antonio
Abilene, TX
Denton
Fort Scott
Seminole, OK
Lubbock
Myrtle Beach
Abilene again
San Angelo, TX
Little Rock
Lubbock again
I think it's safe to say he doesn't care. He's a final four coach, he's had chances to go to live somewhere that's perceived to be cooler than Lubbock.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:15:48 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 25, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:48:01 PM
I didn't realize that Lon's kid got the UNLV job. Lon is moving back to Vegas. UNLV might have the best unpaid assistant OAT.

His kid looks 50 but is 37 it’s pretty wild

Meanwhile his dad has looked 37 for most of his life
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 26, 2021, 11:00:33 AM
Much less effort required to recruit to UT.

Again, I didn't know he's a UT alum but he had top 10 classes in 20, 19, 18 ( I cant tell before 18 because rivals website is being a bitch right now) and each of those classes were ranked higher than UTs class. The only reason his '21 class is low is because he's only gotten one commitment, but that one is a 4 star.

If he goes there it's only because he wants to go home. He has made Tech the better program in every single way. It's very possible he's getting more support at Tech than Shaka or Barnes got. Hell, Tech has the second biggest arena in the conference, UT will have the second smallest when their new arena is done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:17:51 PM
he might make more money in Austin and/or hate the AD in Lubbock. plenty of reasons to make the move
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:18:37 PM
Chris Beard makes double at Tech than what Shaka made at UT. $6 million to $3 million.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:18:37 PM
Chris Beard makes double at Tech than what Shaka made at UT. $6 million to $3 million.

yeah but what if UT pays him $8 or $10 million
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:18:37 PM
Chris Beard makes double at Tech than what Shaka made at UT. $6 million to $3 million.

yeah but what if UT pays him $8 or $10 million

I guess they could, but they've never committed anything like that to even a football coach. They didn't go and throw say no money at a football coach, you think they are going to give him 3 million more dollars a year than what Bill Self makes while moving into an arena that has a capacity under 10,000?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:29:29 PM
We can keep ignoring the fact that he's treated like a king at Tech, I won't. Texas is so far away from committing to basketball like Tech has, it isn't likely that they can or will make up the gap in financial commitment right now. Wouldn't it be just as silly to think that OSU would give Bill Self $10 million?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:36:56 PM
I'm just assuming UT has way more money to spend than Tech if they wanted to, regardless of the number of seats in their arena.

As for not committing that kind of money to a FB coach I bet they would have paid Urban whatever he wanted, but not Sark.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 26, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
BTW, old school gE'ers will be sad to know that soonerfans isn't a thing anymore. The board is still there but there hasn't been a post in two years.

What happened?

Dunno, looks like it just ran out of posters
i think a lot of the old soonersfans basketball posters are at ouhoops.com
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 12:36:56 PM
I'm just assuming UT has way more money to spend than Tech if they wanted to, regardless of the number of seats in their arena.

As for not committing that kind of money to a FB coach I bet they would have paid Urban whatever he wanted, but not Sark.

They've literally not done that in our lifetime for any football or basketball coach. The most high profile coach they've ever hired was Mack and he was running the 3rd or 4th best program in the ACC when they got him.

I've been reading a few UT message boards and they don't seem to think Texas can get Beard either. Royal Ivey seems to be a pretty poplar pick. I had no idea he's coaching for the Nets.

The most interesting name I've seen, but there's no way he's getting that job is Jerrance Howard.

They also seem to like Brad a lot but I put him in the same category as beard.

This is the best thread I've seen

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/19452-uts-next-basketball-coach-discussiondebate/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 12:58:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Mike_Uva/status/1375431470962069507

https://twitter.com/MikeABCColumbia/status/1375476239448875026

Probably time for a job reset, tough to get off the hot seat once you're on it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2021, 01:06:15 PM
Beilein is an interesting name for UT. I bet he'd make them sing "Eyes"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 26, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
Would UT make a run at Pearl?  Not sure he'd leave Auburn tho.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
self to texas
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 26, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
Would UT make a run at Pearl?  Not sure he'd leave Auburn tho.

With the NCAA issues, I'd seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 26, 2021, 06:38:22 PM
man coaching searches are fun
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2021, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 26, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
self to texas

Oh I like that a lot
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bucket on March 28, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1376270472942325763

Uninspiring, but what is exciting is they hired Thad Matta as associate AD.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2021, 06:01:45 PM
damn nice hire
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2021, 06:02:12 PM
(knicks fan)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BW on March 28, 2021, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
Oof.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2021, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: BW on March 28, 2021, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Scott Frost and Fred Hoiberg is a salty combo of men’s revenue sports coaches
Oof.

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 :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2021, 11:11:11 PM
That was cold blooded BW, well done sir.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2021, 11:28:57 PM
We all thought it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2021, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2021, 11:28:57 PM
We all thought it

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: passranch on March 31, 2021, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 26, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: CNS on March 26, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
BTW, old school gE'ers will be sad to know that soonerfans isn't a thing anymore. The board is still there but there hasn't been a post in two years.

What happened?

Dunno, looks like it just ran out of posters

Not that anyone really cares, but I used to post there pretty regularly and it's a long story and I'll try to sum up as concisely as I can.  It was kind of going downhill for a while then they made a poster with the handle of C&C Dean a mod on the South Oval and he ruled that place with an iron fist...and not in a good way.  They had a messed up reputation system where someone who had more rep points carried more weight when they gave out up/down votes and that kind of spiraled out of control and as childish as it may seem the reputation points kind of mattered.  Anyway the mod I mention above ended up with the ability to swing a person's reputation by +/- a million points with a single vote (while the second most powerful rep hammer would have been maybe a couple thousand).

That person treated the board as more or less like real life and he was a pretty abrasive personality (I guess many would consider him a MAGA by today's standards) and he had a habit of not liking others who didn't share very similar opinions as his on lots of things.  Of course this turned off enough of the regular posters - who eventually left - that the place ended up being just two or three people and thousands of bots posting spam.

There is a lot more to the story, some of it kind of crazy in a kind of soap opera way, but I'll spare the details here.

This all happened like a dozen years ago, and honestly I'm surprised that place still exists at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2021, 10:08:38 PM
gE never implementing a "like" system was a very good decision.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2021, 09:25:06 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1377627925042900997
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2021, 09:34:52 AM
Believe it I don’t
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2021, 09:36:19 AM
well this carousel is picking up speed!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2021, 10:02:48 AM
Wow!  Is CB McGrath really ready to take over the Tar Heals?!?!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2021, 10:05:08 AM
I am totally TSC, but the BEST drama would be if UNC went after Bill Self.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 01, 2021, 10:11:21 AM
Beard to Texas.

DAMN.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
woah! that has got to sting for Tech fans. OUCH
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 01, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
Texas being awesome and T-Tech being a bottom tier team is best for K-State and the B12.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
Tech should hire oscar Weber to coach those Beard recruits.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 10:38:53 AM
So I guess Roy has gone back to not giving a crap about North Carolina.  Good for him though, I was glad to see him finally rack up some Nattys at a blue blood institution.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2021, 10:41:26 AM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 10:38:53 AM
So I guess Roy has gone back to not giving a crap about North Carolina.  Good for him though, I was glad to see him finally rack up some Nattys at a blue blood institution.

I can't imagine him retiring unless he was convinced he was picking his own replacement.  Wonder who that will be?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Who had a pandemic year being the wildest year O.A.T. for the carousel. Remember when the narrative was this was going to be a quiet year?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:08:51 AM
Quote from: Shooter Jones on April 01, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
Texas being awesome and T-Tech being a bottom tier team is best for K-State and the B12.

I've gotten some pretty good intel that tech will hire his lead assistant which surprises me because they definitely have the money go get a heavy hitter. I would go with the lead assistant as a secondary option, but I'm not Kirby. Especially this year, tech only has one commitment, it's not like they have a class they have to keep together. This is going to be the first time in like 4 years that Beard won't have a top 15 class.

I can't wait to see that Beard contract, wonder if he's going to make more than Bill Self now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 01, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:08:51 AM
I can't wait to see that Beard contract, wonder if he's going to make more than Bill Self now.

I'm guessing around 7.5-8 mill per.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 01, 2021, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: Shooter Jones on April 01, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:08:51 AM
I can't wait to see that Beard contract, wonder if he's going to make more than Bill Self now.

I'm guessing around 7.5-8 mill per.

I can guarantee he will be the highest paid coach in the conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on April 01, 2021, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Who had a pandemic year being the wildest year O.A.T. for the carousel. Remember when the narrative was this was going to be a quiet year?
makes sense that old guys would want to retire now ... 

but is it really that wild this year?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 10:38:53 AM
So I guess Roy has gone back to not giving a crap about North Carolina. 

had that one in the tank for a while!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: dal9 on April 01, 2021, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Who had a pandemic year being the wildest year O.A.T. for the carousel. Remember when the narrative was this was going to be a quiet year?
makes sense that old guys would want to retire now ... 

but is it really that wild this year?

Is it wild? Indiana, who some people view as a blue blood is firmly the third best opening this off season. A current top 15 program in the country might be the 6th best job open. We're not even done yet. Are you confident that Kansas, Arizona, Duke might not open up? The secondary carousel, when NBA jobs open, hasn't started yet. Marquette and OU are two jobs that normally would be big carousel jobs, no one even cares about those jobs. Not to mention other really good jobs like New Mexico and UNLV. I forgot about flood aggie until I typed UNLV.

Yeah, it's been wild and fun to keep up with.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 10:38:53 AM
So I guess Roy has gone back to not giving a crap about North Carolina. 

had that one in the tank for a while!

That's probably my favorite Roy moment and a great sports soundbite, so I was slightly giddy while typing it out.   :D
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 01, 2021, 01:50:44 PM
Heard Roy have UNC $3M on the way out the door.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2021, 02:43:04 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 01, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: Brock Landers on April 01, 2021, 10:38:53 AM
So I guess Roy has gone back to not giving a crap about North Carolina. 

had that one in the tank for a while!

That's probably my favorite Roy moment and a great sports soundbite, so I was slightly giddy while typing it out.   :D

I appreciated it :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: passranch on April 01, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 01, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Who had a pandemic year being the wildest year O.A.T. for the carousel. Remember when the narrative was this was going to be a quiet year?

I think there was a fair amount of pent-up demand to make coaching changes this year since everyone was freaked the eff out last year during carousel season and didn't make any moves.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 02, 2021, 11:02:54 AM
https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1377999301591326723
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 02, 2021, 11:02:54 AM
https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1377999301591326723

Quote
His current contract, which was set to expire next March

:Wha:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 02, 2021, 01:00:45 PM
Apparently Self's new contract states that any NCAA penalties will not constitute cause for termination. But also, his pay shall be reduced by half during any NCAA-imposed suspension.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 02, 2021, 01:00:45 PM
Apparently Self's new contract states that any NCAA penalties will not constitute cause for termination. But also, his pay shall be reduced by half during any NCAA-imposed suspension.

If I’m you I go all in on UT fandom now.  Decade of dominance is coming.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 02, 2021, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 02, 2021, 01:00:45 PM
Apparently Self's new contract states that any NCAA penalties will not constitute cause for termination. But also, his pay shall be reduced by half during any NCAA-imposed suspension.

this sounds eerily similar to J-Lo's NCAA sanctions rider, and yet The Institution found a way to get around that one
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on April 02, 2021, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
If I’m you I go all in on UT fandom now.  Decade of dominance is coming.

i'm in.  hook 'em, us.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: sys on April 02, 2021, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
If I’m you I go all in on UT fandom now.  Decade of dominance is coming.

i'm in.  hook 'em, us.

Damn OU counters with Porter Moser, Big 12 is going all in.   Maybe Tech will make a big splash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 02, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Tech should hire the Utah guy


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 02, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Tech should hire the Utah guy


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Utah just hired Utah State coach are you referencing when they stole Chris Beard from UNLV after two weeks?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on April 02, 2021, 07:00:38 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Cire on April 02, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Tech should hire the Utah guy


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Utah just hired Utah State coach are you referencing when they stole Chris Beard from UNLV after two weeks?
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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 02, 2021, 09:00:43 PM
Tech should steal a coach from another in state school to assert their spot on the Texas food chain.

They should hire Steve Henson
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2021, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: Shooter Jones on April 02, 2021, 09:00:43 PM
Tech should steal a coach from another in state school to assert their spot on the Texas food chain.

They should hire Steve Henson

Could probably get ACU’s guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2021, 04:11:20 PM
The Texas Tech reaction to Beard leaving for his alma mater is embarrassing. Even more so when you consider that before he was there he left Arkansas Little-Rock after a year and UNLV after two weeks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: memphis on April 03, 2021, 04:25:16 PM
Sampson to TTU would be p great.

Maybe that complete ass kicking has convinced him that is his ceiling at Houston. But I can see tech being too self-righteous to hire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2021, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 03, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: memphis on April 03, 2021, 04:25:16 PM
Sampson to TTU would be p great.

Maybe that complete ass kicking has convinced him that is his ceiling at Houston. But I can see tech being too self-righteous to hire him.

That Baylor team is better than God it ain’t fair. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 03, 2021, 09:19:30 PM
I dunno. An underwhelming KU squad took a pretty easy W off them. They're fallible.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: J on April 05, 2021, 04:53:49 AM
STEVE
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
boring

https://twitter.com/BrendanRMarks/status/1379149263939248130
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2021, 05:28:00 PM
unc stays within their family, this was predictable and I think it’s as good of a hire as anyone who would make their list
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Tech predictably hired Mark Adams. Looks like the carousel has abruptly stopped with a dull thud.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2021, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Tech predictably hired Mark Adams. Looks like the carousel has abruptly stopped with a dull thud.
I was told they had $7 million a year budgeted so I expected a splash

I read the dude's bio and was like "wait he coached at HOWARD??" and then realized it was Howard COLLEGE and then learned that UT Pan-Am became UT Rio Grande Valley at some point and also damn

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/mark-adams-2.html

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 06, 2021, 08:26:45 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2021, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Tech predictably hired Mark Adams. Looks like the carousel has abruptly stopped with a dull thud.
I was told they had $7 million a year budgeted so I expected a splash

I read the dude's bio and was like "wait he coached at HOWARD??" and then realized it was Howard COLLEGE and then learned that UT Pan-Am became UT Rio Grande Valley at some point and also damn

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/mark-adams-2.html

Lol, Jesus dude. No one in the country said they "expected" them to make a splash. Weird flex.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 06, 2021, 08:27:33 AM
KT Turner to OU is interesting and a really smart hire for that staff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2021, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: Shooter Jones on April 06, 2021, 08:27:33 AM
KT Turner to OU is interesting and a really smart hire for that staff.

Yes it is. I think Porter Mosier can coach, I know he's had trouble attracting talent, so this presumably solves that issue. It is different trying to find talent to play for Shaka at Texas than Mosier at OU tho, we'll see.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
did Moser have difficulty attracting talent relative to his MVC peers?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2021, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 06, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
did Moser have difficulty attracting talent relative to his MVC peers?

I mean he had the best program in the conference and he ran a program deadass in the middle of Chicago but he absolutely did not have the most talent, so yeah, I'd say so. I'd say he underachieved in recruiting relative to his standing within the conference and that with other one bid conference schools. The best he's done was the class after his final four year which was 87th, one place better than Weber State, three worse than Seattle University.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 06, 2021, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2021, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 06, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
did Moser have difficulty attracting talent relative to his MVC peers?

I mean he had the best program in the conference and he ran a program deadass in the middle of Chicago but he absolutely did not have the most talent, so yeah, I'd say so. I'd say he underachieved in recruiting relative to his standing within the conference and that with other one bid conference schools. The best he's done was the class after his final four year which was 87th, one place better than Weber State, three worse than Seattle University.

I mostly agree with you, but I suppose the argument for him is that he must be some sort of a diamond in the rough type recruiter since he got them back to a deep run in the tourney.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2021, 02:26:36 PM
On the flip side, they've been first or second on the MVC every year after WSU left and were at a lower level before that (sort of)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 19, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Moser landed a couple of good ones from the portal.  These two nearly beat KU in the tourney.


https://www.krem.com/article/sports/spokane-native-tanner-groves-commits-to-oklahoma-mens-basketball/293-e9bfb886-2dfb-4c39-8af7-234e74e9f31d
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 19, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Moser landed a couple of good ones from the portal.  These two nearly beat KU in the tourney.


https://www.krem.com/article/sports/spokane-native-tanner-groves-commits-to-oklahoma-mens-basketball/293-e9bfb886-2dfb-4c39-8af7-234e74e9f31d

I didn't realize little Groves was transferring too but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2021, 01:31:47 PM
lol

https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1384145085130936336
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on April 19, 2021, 01:58:41 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 19, 2021, 02:04:37 PM
I like how the Iowa State guy is shrugging as he says it like it's a question.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 19, 2021, 04:22:23 PM
Sad to see Kim in there, not Shaka tho  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 19, 2021, 04:46:26 PM
What is the wrong way?  Serious question.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 19, 2021, 11:38:52 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 19, 2021, 04:46:26 PM
What is the wrong way?  Serious question.

Well Pete I don’t know what the wrong way is... but if you tried to put together a compilation of all the pressers where Bill Self discussed doing things the right way, it would be a v short compilation, is what I’m trying to say
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bucket on June 02, 2021, 01:06:46 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1400135966619209729
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on December 03, 2021, 12:47:43 PM
And Turg kicks this off!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on December 03, 2021, 12:49:22 PM
https://twitter.com/umterps/status/1466830576518938626?t=T0Akzv6LD8zQ_3LsMwp7rg
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
huh. was he really that bad this year? why not do it at the end of last season?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on December 03, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Is college basketball going the same way as football now?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on December 03, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
LET'S GO GET TURG!  Fire Weber immediately, and bring Turgeon home to Kansas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on December 03, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Is college basketball going the same way as football now?
After I posted that, I think a fake Covid season delayed a bunch of firings and we'll see a lot during the season
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on December 03, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
huh. was he really that bad this year? why not do it at the end of last season?

Hes only missed the tourney once since 2014, this can’t be results related.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cardiac Cats on December 03, 2021, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on December 03, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
huh. was he really that bad this year? why not do it at the end of last season?

Hes only missed the tourney once since 2014, this can’t be results related.

And they won the big 10 (share?) in that 2020 Covid doomed season. Also just signed a 3 year extension in April.

Self getting a show clause and he’s coming home to calm those waters… 👀
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: Cardiac Cats on December 03, 2021, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on December 03, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
huh. was he really that bad this year? why not do it at the end of last season?

Hes only missed the tourney once since 2014, this can’t be results related.

And they won the big 10 (share?) in that 2020 Covid doomed season. Also just signed a 3 year extension in April.

Self getting a show clause and he’s coming home to calm those waters…
Hmm wtf
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on December 03, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on December 03, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
huh. was he really that bad this year? why not do it at the end of last season?

Hes only missed the tourney once since 2014, this can’t be results related.
Maryland is honoring the terms of his buyout, apparently.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sys on December 03, 2021, 11:05:13 PM
well that's weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2021, 11:17:24 PM
He mumped up (in some undisclosed way)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KST8FAN on December 04, 2021, 07:37:19 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/03/mark-turgeon-maryland-fans/

Extension hinged on a reduced  buyout.


Tom

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on December 04, 2021, 12:33:47 PM
A show clause, folks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2022, 02:46:47 PM
Little early to fire this up but it seems like a foregone conclusion Michigan will be open after this

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1495488585839095809?s=21
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 20, 2022, 03:44:28 PM
If oscar tried to throw a punch he’d find a way to accidentally step on a rake first
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on February 20, 2022, 03:50:08 PM
I want Juwan and loads of recruits at KSU.  That would of course mean every KSU decision-maker would also have been replaced by like-minded people.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
https://youtu.be/pfz0tDQZhqs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 04:55:43 PM
Why is everyone being so dramatic about this? He's not going to get fired for that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2022, 05:40:00 PM
yeah a short suspension, that’s about it, really nbd
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2022, 06:02:30 PM
What kind of precedent is there for a coach open hand slapping another coach? Anything particular to college basketball?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 20, 2022, 06:12:32 PM
Juwan pressing scrubs and then trying to play the unwritten rules card in the presser was classic.

Props to you Juwan!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2022, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: nicname on February 20, 2022, 06:02:30 PM
What kind of precedence is there for a coach open hand slapping another coach? Anything particular to college basketball?

I’m not sure I know of one.  Pretty strange deal, kind of surprised to see it tbh. You see a ton of redass stuff like what led up to it but not sure I’ve seen a coach take a swing on another.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on February 20, 2022, 06:32:01 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Big 10 and Michigan imply the precedent for a coaching hitting an opposing coach SHOULD be.  Is this the behavior of a "Michigan Man?"  Is the behavior of a Leader and/or Legend?  We'll see!   :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on February 20, 2022, 07:17:35 PM
I for sure would think that is a fireable offense at THE Kansas State University, unless the coach went to the Elite Eight or better in the last five years which SON OF A BITCH STILL WOULDNT MEAN WE CAN oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben ji on February 20, 2022, 07:18:23 PM
I have not followed college bball much lately but has Howard been good at Michigan?

Because that's what this comes down to. If he has been winning and things are looking up he stays...if he has not been winning at the level people expect he will be gone.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben ji on February 20, 2022, 07:20:22 PM
Quote from: ben ji on February 20, 2022, 07:18:23 PM
I have not followed college bball much lately but has Howard been good at Michigan?

Because that's what this comes down to. If he has been winning and things are looking up he stays...if he has not been winning at the level people expect he will be gone.
Just googled his coaching record...elite 8 last year and probably a tournament team this year.

He gets suspended without pay for a couple of games and gives an apology and everyone moves on.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2022, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 20, 2022, 06:32:01 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Big 10 and Michigan imply the precedent for a coaching hitting an opposing coach SHOULD be.  Is this the behavior of a "Michigan Man?"  Is the behavior of a Leader and/or Legend?  We'll see!   :bwpopcorn:

Michigan doesn't seem like the type of institution willing to play the heel.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 08:02:52 PM
Quote from: nicname on February 20, 2022, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 20, 2022, 06:32:01 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Big 10 and Michigan imply the precedent for a coaching hitting an opposing coach SHOULD be.  Is this the behavior of a "Michigan Man?"  Is the behavior of a Leader and/or Legend?  We'll see!   :bwpopcorn:

Michigan doesn't seem like the type of institution willing to play the heel.

There isn't a school in America who would fire a successful coach, who is a beloved young alumn, recruiting his ass off for slapping another coach in a scrum. Some of them things Frank got suspended for a closer to fireable offenses than what Howard did.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 20, 2022, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: nicname on February 20, 2022, 06:02:30 PM
What kind of precedence is there for a coach open hand slapping another coach? Anything particular to college basketball?

I’m not sure I know of one.  Pretty strange deal, kind of surprised to see it tbh. You see a ton of redass stuff like what led up to it but not sure I’ve seen a coach take a swing on another.

Us old heads remember Buddy Ryan, as a defensive coordinator for the Houston Oilers, punching the offensive coordinator in the face on the sideline on national television. They were up huge at the time. Not only did he not get fired but he got a head coaching job for the next season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2022, 08:35:40 PM
The NFL and NCAA basketball isn’t exactly apples to apples. Again, if there is any precedent for this I haven’t seen or heard of it. Seems hard to make bold assertions with that being the case.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on February 20, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
Quote
On February 13, 1994, Chaney threatened to kill then-University of Massachusetts Amherst coach John Calipari at a post-game news conference, where Calipari was speaking at a podium. Chaney entered the conference mid-speech, calling him an "Italian son-of-a-bitch," accusing Calipari of manipulating the referees. When Calipari attempted to respond to the accusations, Chaney yelled, "Shut up...!", and proceeded to charge the stage, before being stopped by security. While being held back, Chaney shouted, "When I see you, I'm gonna kick your ass!" As security restrained Chaney, he repeatedly yelled, "I'll kill you!" and angrily admitted telling his players to "knock your rough ridin' kids in the mouth."[6] Chaney received a one-game suspension for the incident.[7] The two coaches later reconciled. Chaney praised Calipari's coaching ability and defended him over the Derrick Rose controversy at the University of Memphis.[8]

Close enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: nicname on February 20, 2022, 08:35:40 PM
The NFL and NCAA basketball isn’t exactly apples to apples. Again, if there is any precedent for this I haven’t seen or heard of it. Seems hard to make bold assertions with that being the case.

I'm aware, that's why I replied to ww's post.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on February 20, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
There is zero chance he get canned for that lol


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: Trim on February 20, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
Quote
On February 13, 1994, Chaney threatened to kill then-University of Massachusetts Amherst coach John Calipari at a post-game news conference, where Calipari was speaking at a podium. Chaney entered the conference mid-speech, calling him an "Italian son-of-a-bitch," accusing Calipari of manipulating the referees. When Calipari attempted to respond to the accusations, Chaney yelled, "Shut up...!", and proceeded to charge the stage, before being stopped by security. While being held back, Chaney shouted, "When I see you, I'm gonna kick your ass!" As security restrained Chaney, he repeatedly yelled, "I'll kill you!" and angrily admitted telling his players to "knock your rough ridin' kids in the mouth."[6] Chaney received a one-game suspension for the incident.[7] The two coaches later reconciled. Chaney praised Calipari's coaching ability and defended him over the Derrick Rose controversy at the University of Memphis.[8]

Close enough.

I was a big UMass guy back then, even had a final four shirt, but that was funny as hell and Chaney became my second favorite coach that day, Billy Tubbs.

I'm certain everyone has seen both videos, just in case though.

https://youtu.be/wyc7nB-CJKs

https://youtu.be/giFBHxnQ88A
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 20, 2022, 09:55:25 PM
Bobby Knights temper tantrums are probably about as close as the big10 has for a precedent. Throwing chairs isn’t in the same conversation as taking a swing at an opposing coach, but both are unbecoming and something the university would very strongly prefer their head coaches abstain from doing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2022, 10:25:43 PM
 #teamChaney that cantankerous old eff really couldn't stand Cal's sleazeball ways, and the rivalry between the two had been brewing for years before the press conference tongue lashing. ---> https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/temple/john-chaney-john-calipari-temple-umass-george-watts-20210201.html

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2022, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on February 20, 2022, 09:55:25 PM
Bobby Knights temper tantrums are probably about as close as the big10 has for a precedent. Throwing chairs isn’t in the same conversation as taking a swing at an opposing coach, but both are unbecoming and something the university would very strongly prefer their head coaches abstain from doing

He didn't get fired for choking a player on camera.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on February 21, 2022, 08:00:24 AM
The most interesting part of this whole thing to me is the Big 10 and Michigan's opinion of themselves.  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on February 21, 2022, 08:53:40 AM
also, this was not a punch thrown by juwan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on February 21, 2022, 08:59:59 AM
It's only enough to fire him if Michigan already wanted to fire him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: pissclams on February 21, 2022, 08:53:40 AM
also, this was not a punch thrown by juwan

I had to watch like 5 times in amazement how long his arms are when he bitch slapped that guy in the head. He has a crazy long reach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on February 21, 2022, 01:39:07 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 21, 2022, 08:00:24 AM
The most interesting part of this whole thing to me is the Big 10 and Michigan's opinion of themselves.  :bwpopcorn:

Like I said, we're a perfect fit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: passranch on February 21, 2022, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 20, 2022, 06:32:01 PM
Will be interesting to see what the Big 10 and Michigan imply the precedent for a coaching hitting an opposing coach SHOULD be.  Is this the behavior of a "Michigan Man?"  Is the behavior of a Leader and/or Legend?  We'll see!   :bwpopcorn:

https://twitter.com/TheAndyKatz/status/1495913376928706560
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2022, 08:07:31 PM
5 games ain’t too bad all things considered.  Wisconsin coach probably deserved a suspension of some sort.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2022, 08:17:09 PM
I still want to know what Krabbenhoft said, whatever it was it's wasn't to Juwan but it was enough to make him lose his crap. As mad as he was with Gard, he wasn't close to slapping him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 21, 2022, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 21, 2022, 08:17:09 PM
I still want to know what Krabbenhoft said, whatever it was it's wasn't to Juwan but it was enough to make him lose his crap. As mad as he was with Gard, he wasn't close to slapping him.

Dunno, but he made the DX "suck it" gesture as Mich was walking away.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 21, 2022, 09:19:34 PM
Saw Juwan's apology tonight on ESPN. He's a good man and a good Michigan Man imo. He's earned his dues in the basketball world.

He's a young coach and will rise above pettiness in time. He's got a great opportunity to leave a fantastic legacy started as a player and fulfilled as a coach.

I'd like to see Wisc and Mich meet in the B10 tournament. These guys are all men. They'll bury the hatchet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on February 21, 2022, 09:21:19 PM
I thought it was the wisconsin assistant getting out of his lane with terrance williams.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 10:51:27 AM
Quote from: nicname on February 21, 2022, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 21, 2022, 08:17:09 PM
I still want to know what Krabbenhoft said, whatever it was it's wasn't to Juwan but it was enough to make him lose his crap. As mad as he was with Gard, he wasn't close to slapping him.

Dunno, but he made the DX "suck it" gesture as Mich was walking away.

That was the strength coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 22, 2022, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: nicname on February 21, 2022, 09:19:34 PM
They'll bury the hatchet.
In each others back
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on February 22, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

We Need a first four matchup with Michigan so he can knock oscar out after he calls a timeout late in the game
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on February 22, 2022, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 22, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

We Need a first four matchup with Michigan so he can knock oscar out after he calls a timeout late in the game

I'm not all that convinced that oscar will be up 15
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on February 22, 2022, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on February 22, 2022, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on February 22, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

We Need a first four matchup with Michigan so he can knock oscar out after he calls a timeout late in the game

I'm not all that convinced that oscar will be up 15

Ironically, oscar calls his right fist the fab 5.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?

not to speak for Pete, but because he also tried for fight Turgeon last year? 
Going further back, he put a in-game hit out on Lance Stephenson and was sued for giving a woman herpes
So basically he's a piece of crap?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:42:47 PM
anyway, the reason i was on this thread is to post that cuonzo got fired
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2022, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?

not to speak for Pete, but because he also tried for fight Turgeon last year? 
Going further back, he put a in-game hit out on Lance Stephenson and was sued for giving a woman herpes
So basically he's a piece of crap?
And that reminds me, I’d love to get Turgeon
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 11, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?

not to speak for Pete, but because he also tried for fight Turgeon last year? 
Going further back, he put a in-game hit out on Lance Stephenson and was sued for giving a woman herpes
So basically he's a piece of crap?

He didn't try to fight Turgeon, they got into an argument. Didn't know about those other two things but they don't show a proclivity for slapping assistant coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2022, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?

not to speak for Pete, but because he also tried for fight Turgeon last year? 
Going further back, he put a in-game hit out on Lance Stephenson and was sued for giving a woman herpes
So basically he's a piece of crap?

He didn't try to fight Turgeon, they got into an argument. Didn't know about those other two things but they don't show a proclivity for slapping assistant coaches.


He had to be restrained when argue with Turgeon and yelled "I'll rough ridin' kill you."  That's not an argument.  That's an unstable person with a pattern of anger control problems who I suspect will do this again. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2022, 01:46:02 PM
In fact, they had to repeated restrain Howard.  Things cooled off and then Howard's entire staff had to hold him back, and that's when he got ejected.  He has problems that most coaches don't seem to have.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2022, 01:59:38 PM
I just saw Fran McCaffrey walk over to Indiana's bench yelling at coaches and referees, he's done this no fewer than five times since he's been at Iowa. I understand the lack of stated concern for the old white guy having his annual bout of raging to the point where he has to be restrained.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2022, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 12, 2022, 01:59:38 PM
I just saw Fran McCaffrey walk over to Indiana's bench yelling at coaches and referees, he's done this no fewer than five times since he's been at Iowa. I understand the lack of stated concern for the old white guy having his annual bout of raging to the point where he has to be restrained.

Thank you for using "fewer."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2022, 02:22:55 PM
Will oscar now cut his hair or is he waiting it out for KU and Bill Self?
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1502730866967162880

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on March 12, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
Pete's beef with Juwan reminds me that we should be going after Jalen Rose.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 12, 2022, 04:31:26 PM
We fine like Amber Rose
We ball like Jalen Rose
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2022, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 12, 2022, 01:59:38 PM
I just saw Fran McCaffrey walk over to Indiana's bench yelling at coaches and referees, he's done this no fewer than five times since he's been at Iowa. I understand the lack of stated concern for the old white guy having his annual bout of raging to the point where he has to be restrained.

LMAO I didn't realize that crazy sob was still coaching. Talk about unhinged.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 12, 2022, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 12, 2022, 04:31:26 PM
We fine like Amber Rose
We ball like Jalen Rose
from the midwest like Axl Rose?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 12, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
frank haith fired
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2022, 02:17:13 PM
Richmond coach, Chris Mooney saved his job with a miracle run in the A-10 tournament.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 13, 2022, 09:50:39 PM
Guessing Will Wade is a non starter
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2022, 11:06:56 PM
Georgia hires Florida head coach Mike White. Florida fans can’t stand Mike White. What a bizarre series of events.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 13, 2022, 11:38:52 PM
Don’t know much about Mike White, but being disliked locally is hardly “bizarre” in my book. Look at Rick Barnes getting chased off from Texas. Hell Mack Brown for that matter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2022, 01:14:53 AM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on March 13, 2022, 09:50:39 PM
Guessing Will Wade is a non starter

Considering he's 100% getting a multi-year show cause, yeah, non starter. He's the only head coach of all the FBI schools who has no plausible deniability. Homeboy is on the wire tap saying "we made a strong ass offer" referring to a player he eventually landed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 14, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
frank got canned
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on March 14, 2022, 02:00:57 PM
Warm up the Stupidest head coach suggestions thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2022, 02:01:26 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 14, 2022, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: 0.42 on March 14, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
frank got canned

Unsurprising.  The AD tried to can him last year but the regents stopped it due to the price tag from what I heard. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2022, 02:10:07 PM
I think it's evident that Kansas State is a very easy place to win big in basketball, as long as we aren't hiring some absolute loser like Wooldrige. Anyone capable of finishing middle of the pack in a P5 conference should be capable of competing for Big 12 titles in Manhattan, and a proven winner like Pitino should regularly have us seeded 4 or below, with the occasional 1 or 2 seed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2022, 02:54:36 PM
No lies detected
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 14, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
Hell yeah let’s pump some money into this sleeping giant and start kicking ass again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on March 14, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 14, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
Hell yeah let’s pump some money into this sleeping giant and start kicking ass again.
:drool: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 14, 2022, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 12, 2022, 01:46:02 PM
In fact, they had to repeated restrain Howard.  Things cooled off and then Howard's entire staff had to hold him back, and that's when he got ejected.  He has problems that most coaches don't seem to have.
A 12 step program would probably do him well.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2022, 04:21:14 PM
I'll be interested to see if Frank gets another D1 head coaching job, or if he's even interested. His health has been awful the past couple of years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 0.42 on March 14, 2022, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 14, 2022, 04:21:14 PM
I'll be interested to see if Frank gets another D1 head coaching job, or if he's even interested. His health has been awful the past couple of years.

FGCU's open if he wants to move closer to home and wants to keep coaching badly enough.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 16, 2022, 02:28:22 PM
Louisville is hiring Kenny Payne
Rhode Island closing in on Archie Miller
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 16, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
the fact that we haven't made an announcement yet gives me hope that its b/c we have our sights set on someone whose team is currently still participating in postseason play
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 16, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on March 16, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
the fact that we haven't made an announcement yet gives me hope that its b/c we have our sights set on someone whose team is currently still participating in postseason play
Exactly. It takes time to obtain a restraining order, and after Brad gets one against Gene I assume we’ll immediately hire one of our backup options.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 16, 2022, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 16, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on March 16, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
the fact that we haven't made an announcement yet gives me hope that its b/c we have our sights set on someone whose team is currently still participating in postseason play
Exactly. It takes time to obtain a restraining order, and after Brad gets one against Gene I assume we’ll immediately hire one of our backup options.
if Brad doesn't file a TRO against Gene then that's grounds for immediate termination of Gene. Unless Brad comes home in which case great work Gene!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2022, 03:45:11 PM
It’s time for a hiring bonus built around a life insurance policy placed in one of our ad employees
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 16, 2022, 04:05:22 PM
Guys, what if we hire Ben Howland? The thought just popped into my head and I don't like it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2022, 04:20:40 PM
Brad is coming home, it’s happening.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 16, 2022, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 16, 2022, 04:20:40 PM
Brad is coming home, it’s happening.

Is that what you know or what you think?

Quote from: CHONGS on March 16, 2022, 04:05:22 PM
Guys, what if we hire Ben Howland? The thought just popped into my head and I don't like it.

I think the consistent anti-Weber vitriol will keep our AD from trodding down the recently fired coach path again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: manpow5 on March 16, 2022, 05:32:21 PM
https://twitter.com/MizzouFanClub/status/1504199277744164868?t=MJcc0YoiayAmxobu9QqqFA&s=19

Not sure how much weight I give a Mizzou fan account with less than 1500 followers  :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
We have donors with ungodly amounts of money and they want Brad Underwood to coach basketball for the cats.  So that’s what’s gonna happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 16, 2022, 05:58:21 PM
My pocketbook is going to be like [Google famous dam that broke] in KSU athletics favor if that happens.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ben ji on March 16, 2022, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 16, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
We have donors with ungodly amounts of money and they want Brad Underwood to coach basketball for the cats.  So that’s what’s gonna happen.
I mentioned this earlier but the timing could not have been better for bringing Brad home.

In regards to US States...

KS is the leading producer of wheat which is up like a bagillion percent over the past 6 months.

KS is also a top 10 producer of oil which is up like slightly less than a bagillion percent over the last 6 months.

"Ad Astra Per Aspera" need not apply here (Except for Brad probably gets a chub every time he hears the phrase like most Kansans)

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on March 16, 2022, 07:44:26 PM
 :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 18, 2022, 12:14:13 PM
I'm starting to see reports of San Fran's Golden to Florida
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on March 18, 2022, 12:14:13 PM
I'm starting to see reports of San Fran's Golden to Florida

Official
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2022, 01:15:16 PM
Oh well, he seemed like a fun hire
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2022, 01:42:22 PM
Agreed I would have been good with him. I am good with Tang too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2022, 01:50:17 PM
All aboard team Tang
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
Howland? NO!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on March 18, 2022, 02:06:51 PM
why is there no chatter around Mack

seems like both Millers have jobs by Sunday
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 18, 2022, 02:22:43 PM
I think Xavier fired their coach at an odd time with the expectation that they could bring back Mack.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2022, 02:30:34 PM
Smoke:

KETV Omaha: Nebraska men's basketball announces Doc Sadler's departure.

https://www.ketv.com/article/nebraska-mens-basketball-doc-sadler-departure/39476535
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on March 18, 2022, 02:06:51 PM
why is there no chatter around Mack

seems like both Millers have jobs by Sunday

Mack was running a dirty program at Louisville and he was being blackmailed by an assistant coach that he was friends with for over 20 years. That's a hire that Xavier can make just fine but for most high major ADs he's a real risky hire and I'm not sure his performance at Louisville justifies the high risk. He could still face NCAA sanctions for what he was being blackmailed for.

There's no way Archie Miller was going to get a good high major job, not without him being someone's 10th option. Rhode Island was a great landing spot.

Sean Miller, even more high risk high reward than Mack. He would make sense at a place who needs to take a huge swing but won't be left in a worse place if he blew up. A Huggins hire for us back in 2007. I don't know what current opening is best for him. Honestly, I think Missouri would beat good fit for him, their program has been in shambles since they've gone to the SEC. I don't think they have a lot to lose right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on March 18, 2022, 02:39:54 PM
We’re getting Tang or Jans aren’t we?

* i think Tang would be a great hire admittedly.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 02:43:33 PM
I called my shot on Jans on Monday. He's going to the sweet 16 so people will be excited but he's very meh to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2022, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 02:43:33 PM
I called my shot on Jans on Monday. He's going to the sweet 16 so people will be excited but he's very meh to me.
I think Arkansas is going to eff them up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
I don't like jans facial hair.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wiley on March 18, 2022, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 02:43:33 PM
I called my shot on Jans on Monday. He's going to the sweet 16 so people will be excited but he's very meh to me.
Teddy Allen is fun to watch on that team.  Crazy to think Huggins had him and Tshiebwe and the both dropped 30 in the NCAA tourney


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
I don't like jans facial hair.

Yes, it's very stupid
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 18, 2022, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
I don't like jans facial hair.

Yes, it's very stupid
he kinda reminds me of Ted Cruz :Yuck:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 18, 2022, 07:53:02 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on March 18, 2022, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 18, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
I don't like jans facial hair.

Yes, it's very stupid
he kinda reminds me of Ted Cruz :Yuck:

eff. Was wondering who he reminded me of. That’s it. Also I just don’t like him. He seems weird.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on March 18, 2022, 07:53:29 PM
Really dislike Brads play style. Ugly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2022, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: stunted on March 18, 2022, 07:53:29 PM
Really dislike Brads play style. Ugly

Hopefully Gene is wrapping up the contract with Tang
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 18, 2022, 09:20:22 PM
We’re all like 95% sure it’s tang right? I mean, could be worse.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2022, 10:05:07 PM
Yea honestly I think it’s a great fit.  We will recruit the dogshit out of TX with him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 18, 2022, 10:16:59 PM
dennis gates likely to Mizzou
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on March 19, 2022, 12:00:36 AM
what other coaches out there can we pay 7 million to buy out and then 5 million a year? must be a long list right? or are we doing the family thing again
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 19, 2022, 12:34:40 AM
Quote from: Dr Rick Daris on March 18, 2022, 09:20:22 PM
We’re all like 95% sure it’s tang right? I mean, could be worse.
Tang is playing us for money


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2022, 06:12:35 AM
Gonna get Baylor to pay him 3M?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2022, 08:49:20 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 18, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
I don't like jans facial hair.

He also has Barney Rubble eyes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 19, 2022, 09:20:08 AM
So the GoPurpleUstate fighting bruceketcats are looking for a new head bb coach at long last? Hot damn, exciting times
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2022, 09:27:42 AM
Welcome back Mr Bread
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 19, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
When there is a changing of the oscar guard one does not simply ignore it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 19, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
OMG, Mr. Bread is alive!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 19, 2022, 09:43:02 AM
Hi fanning
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 19, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
So gene is not going to wait on Brad

I don’t disagree but I also wonder how pro active he really was in trying to line up oscar’s replacement. IE gene was going to keep him but they boosters won through


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2022, 01:30:48 PM
Well holy crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 19, 2022, 03:52:05 PM
Sean Miller (back) to Xavier
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 19, 2022, 03:53:04 PM
I don't think our next coach is still coaching in a tournament
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2022, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 19, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
When there is a changing of the oscar guard one does not simply ignore it.
You have a LOT of explaining to do!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 20, 2022, 01:19:49 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 20, 2022, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Mr Bread on March 19, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
When there is a changing of the oscar guard one does not simply ignore it.
You have a LOT of explaining to do!

Sorry Pete. You were always in my thoughts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 20, 2022, 01:39:15 AM
I hope whoever you get they're exciting and good and not like a rough ridin' john groce. Because let me tell you the only thing worse than oscar brucing your program in the ol brucehole is john groce doing it even more after. Good lord what an ordeal. Exhausting.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2022, 11:04:26 AM
We dodged Jans.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2022, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: CHONGS on March 20, 2022, 11:04:26 AM
We dodged Jans.

Andy Kennedy still looms large
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2022, 12:02:52 PM
Yes. If tang says no. It’s Kennedy


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1506289929093103622?s=20&t=Jk7okm5Im3oPaKJUw-8Crw
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 22, 2022, 11:00:13 AM
dude just loves the crap out of the state of texas
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 22, 2022, 11:03:41 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1505986654481305600
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1506035243467300866

I think out of all those names, i'm pretty happy with who we got. Would have taken Sean Miller though
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
N.C. State is the kind of job Frank would have held out for had Currie not forced his hand.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2022, 05:21:09 PM
Too bad about Jank, hahahaha. Let him sit next to Self again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2022, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1506289929093103622?s=20&t=Jk7okm5Im3oPaKJUw-8Crw
BRING JANK HOME (as an asst)


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2022, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 22, 2022, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1506289929093103622?s=20&t=Jk7okm5Im3oPaKJUw-8Crw
BRING JANK HOME (as an asst)


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eff no. Let Self rehire him so he can sit next to his son. He and spawn went Sqwawk so let 'em stay so when the NCAA hammer come down
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: slackcat on March 22, 2022, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 22, 2022, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1506289929093103622?s=20&t=Jk7okm5Im3oPaKJUw-8Crw
BRING JANK HOME (as an asst)


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 :lol:

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 23, 2022, 03:53:59 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1506735752331341834
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
Oh man, that would beat very good job for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 24, 2022, 12:29:47 AM
They would love him in Mass
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2022, 08:18:57 AM
Yes, IIRC Mrs. Frank Martin is from the Boston area and they met when Frank was at Northeastern
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 10:33:33 AM
I don't see Southies getting offended when Frank drops an f-bomb or two. I would bet any SC fan that Frank has more success at Mass than whomever it is/was they hire. SC was a deadend job Frank took to rid his life of Currie (and make a shitload of money).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 10:37:41 AM
lol. k
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2022, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
Oh man, that would beat very good job for him.
Haven't they sucked crap for quite a while? If I were him I'd hold out for a mid major that didn't fire their coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 10:33:33 AM
I don't see Southies getting offended when Frank drops an f-bomb or two. I would bet any SC fan that Frank has more success at Mass than whomever it is/was they hire. SC was a deadend job Frank took to rid his life of Currie (and make a shitload of money).

That's a very different Massachusetts than Boston, very different. Southies don't know a damn thing about UMASS.

Quote from: michigancat on March 24, 2022, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
Oh man, that would beat very good job for him.
Haven't they sucked crap for quite a while? If I were him I'd hold out for a mid major that didn't fire their coach.

Yes, but that's because they haven't had the right coach, not because of any inherent disadvantages they have relative to the rest of their conference. St. Bonaventure is the perfect example of how the right coach can turn around an A-10 school, quickly. It's a multibid league that doesn't have a blue blood or an insurmountable. Travis Ford has been at St. Louis for 6 seasons and there is no reason that Frank can't be more successful than him. The A-10 is an awesome basketball conference and if they offer him that job, he'll crawl to it. It's pretty far and away the best mid major conference and it's a job that multiple coaches have had success at.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 11:59:02 AM
Seems like an opportune time for UMass with traditional NE big dogs Syracuse, Boston College and UConn in meh stages.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 01:54:50 PM
I don't know if BC is in a meh stage, UConn definitely isn't. Syracuse is in big trouble. I do think BC, UConn, and UMass can all be good at the same time, it's happened before. It's better for all three programs if they're all good.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 01:54:50 PM
I don't know if BC is in a meh stage, UConn definitely isn't. Syracuse is in big trouble. I do think BC, UConn, and UMass can all be good at the same time, it's happened before. It's better for all three programs if they're all good.

UConn is starting to turn around, but nowhere near what it was and has yet to show it can sustain success. BC is floundering in both revenue sports.

But sure, competition does sometimes lift all boats. Probably ought to include Providence in the New England mix, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 01:54:50 PM
I don't know if BC is in a meh stage, UConn definitely isn't. Syracuse is in big trouble. I do think BC, UConn, and UMass can all be good at the same time, it's happened before. It's better for all three programs if they're all good.

UConn is starting to turn around, but nowhere near what it was and has yet to show it can sustain success. BC is floundering in both revenue sports.

But sure, competition does sometimes lift all boats. Probably ought to include Providence in the New England mix, too.

Definitely
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 09:04:42 PM
@MakeItRain I can’t stop laughing at this! :lol:

https://twitter.com/carterthepower/status/1506783839057850374?s=21
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 09:15:17 PM
For those that don’t get the reference:

https://youtu.be/nopWOC4SRm4
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 09:04:42 PM
@MakeItRain I can’t stop laughing at this! :lol:

https://twitter.com/carterthepower/status/1506783839057850374?s=21

 :ROFL: that's amazing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 10:24:52 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1507089385866645509
Happy for our guy, hope we beat him in the Sweet 16 next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2022, 11:21:00 AM
Finalized!

https://twitter.com/mattvautour424/status/1507316147879915527?s=21
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2022, 11:49:02 AM
He already has the House of Pain haircut.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 25, 2022, 02:49:06 PM
Bullet dodged
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA

SMU seemed like a lateral move, I didn't really understand it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA

SMU seemed like a lateral move, I didn't really understand it.

That isn't a lateral move at all. The American is a league that will get 4-6 bids every year, CUSA is a 1 bid league. In addition to that SMU has recently had top 30 recruiting classes. North Texas has never even made the team ratings and the highest they've been was the 7 best class in CUSA.

I'm guessing that SMU didn't offer him the job, he'd be a massive fool not to take it if offered. I guarantee whomever they hire will make more than McCasland will at UNT.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2022, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA

SMU seemed like a lateral move, I didn't really understand it.

That isn't a lateral move at all. The American is a league that will get 4-6 bids every year, CUSA is a 1 bid league. In addition to that SMU has recently had top 30 recruiting classes. North Texas has never even made the team ratings and the highest they've been was the 7 best class in CUSA.

I'm guessing that SMU didn't offer him the job, he'd be a massive fool not to take it if offered. I guarantee whomever they hire will make more than McCasland will at UNT.

Truth. Not sure McCasland would be able to afford a house in the Park Cities at his current salary.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on March 25, 2022, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA

SMU seemed like a lateral move, I didn't really understand it.

That isn't a lateral move at all. The American is a league that will get 4-6 bids every year, CUSA is a 1 bid league. In addition to that SMU has recently had top 30 recruiting classes. North Texas has never even made the team ratings and the highest they've been was the 7 best class in CUSA.

I'm guessing that SMU didn't offer him the job, he'd be a massive fool not to take it if offered. I guarantee whomever they hire will make more than McCasland will at UNT.

Not saying SMU isn’t the better job, but next year is the last year conference affiliation is one of the factors
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2022, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: joda on March 25, 2022, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1507441512895942664?s=20&t=oHi8jBpNHlKUw7UH3A6hvA

SMU seemed like a lateral move, I didn't really understand it.

That isn't a lateral move at all. The American is a league that will get 4-6 bids every year, CUSA is a 1 bid league. In addition to that SMU has recently had top 30 recruiting classes. North Texas has never even made the team ratings and the highest they've been was the 7 best class in CUSA.

I'm guessing that SMU didn't offer him the job, he'd be a massive fool not to take it if offered. I guarantee whomever they hire will make more than McCasland will at UNT.

Not saying SMU isn’t the better job, but next year is the last year conference affiliation is one of the factors

True, but there will still be a hell of a disparity between those athletic departments and basketball programs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 10:53:21 AM
SMU could certainly be a better job but if McCasland likes his roster for next year, it could make sense to maintain his successful program than start over now.  He'll likely have a better shot at P5 opportunities next year by staying put.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2022, 10:57:57 AM
Did SMU land a coach yet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2022, 10:57:57 AM
Did SMU land a coach yet?

Yeah they hired the Georgia State coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2022, 04:18:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ugabasketball/status/1508504450205372416?s=21
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 28, 2022, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 10:53:21 AM
SMU could certainly be a better job but if McCasland likes his roster for next year, it could make sense to maintain his successful program than start over now.  He'll likely have a better shot at P5 opportunities next year by staying put.

Who's on the hot seat next year? I don't think anyone in the Big 12 or the SEC with all this year's turnover (except maybe Kentucky). Arizona State, Pitt, Wichita State, Memphis?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on March 28, 2022, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 10:53:21 AM
SMU could certainly be a better job but if McCasland likes his roster for next year, it could make sense to maintain his successful program than start over now.  He'll likely have a better shot at P5 opportunities next year by staying put.

Who's on the hot seat next year? I don't think anyone in the Big 12 or the SEC with all this year's turnover (except maybe Kentucky). Arizona State, Pitt, Wichita State, Memphis?

The only one of those jobs he could get is Wichita State, but that job won't be open next year, not unless they go like 2-14 in The American.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 30, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
holloway of st peters to seton hall
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on April 15, 2022, 01:50:09 PM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1515034766621487105?s=20&t=DK5iegTuJW3jgAiZhMUVBw
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 21, 2022, 11:51:21 AM
https://theathletic.com/3259027/2022/04/20/from-shaheen-holloway-at-seton-hall-to-mike-white-at-georgia-tiers-of-power-6-mens-college-basketball-coaching-hires-for-2022/?source=nbatw

Ranked below Holloway, Sean Miller, Jans, Payne, Scheye, Gates, Golden, McMahon, and Willard.  :dubious:


Quote
Tier 4
Jerome Tang, Kansas State. Mimicking the Baylor model in the Big 12 is a defensible philosophy. Hiring one of the architects of the Baylor machine is a defensible move. The inflection point is Kansas State deciding to do everything Baylor has done, and continues to do, to keep that machine humming. And, to a lesser extent, how much geography matters in the endeavor; Baylor is located in the Land of Basketball Talent Plenty known as Texas, and Kansas State is, well, not. Tang deserves this shot. He’s been extremely picky, too, so we have to surmise there’s something he sees here to convince him it was time to leave Waco after two decades. Postseason success is not ancient history here — 10 NCAA Tournament appearances between 2008 and 2019 — but this is a rebuild, full stop, in a blast furnace of a league with a first-time head coach leading the way. A lot could go right. A lot could go wrong.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 21, 2022, 01:07:41 PM
If they think KSU is inherently hamstrung in recruiting then I don’t see how any coaching hire would ever get us above that tier.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2022, 01:21:51 PM
Bruh, the athletic :bang: that view of the hire is such an outlier you can only laugh. I read a lot of college basketball stuff and I've never heard of that dude
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BW on April 21, 2022, 04:48:36 PM
Perhaps we can ride the new streetcar to watch some Bruceketball games.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on April 26, 2022, 09:18:40 PM
Happy for Jermaine Henderson


https://twitter.com/csu_basketball/status/1518731025660235776?s=20&t=5Vu9DWLUAJrlODStokI1uA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on July 28, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
https://twitter.com/CBB_Central/status/1552379743978266625?s=20&t=p2AVu3a5psdNFGIfu_rFHA
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on August 04, 2022, 06:28:17 PM
Long time Jayhawk bagman[tweet]1555328299995480068[/tweet]
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: HugeCat on October 11, 2022, 02:00:03 PM
It is finished
https://twitter.com/Sturdy32/status/1579857723357032453?s=20&t=jchG03B7tU9tOLNi20uE-g
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2022, 02:03:30 PM
He's got a voice for TV
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 11, 2022, 03:07:16 PM
I can't wait for the cringe of those broadcasts
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2022, 03:48:50 PM
Imagine the anecdotes! Honestly I think he'll be great.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on October 11, 2022, 05:41:40 PM
He’s just gonna yell “hands up” over and over.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on December 12, 2022, 08:23:46 AM
Might need to fire this up for UT.  Sounds like he choked his wife out last night.

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on December 12, 2022, 08:26:21 AM
JFC. What a piece of crap if it's him
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 12, 2022, 08:29:07 AM
holy crap!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on December 12, 2022, 05:16:46 PM
choking spouses is so en vogue right now, oh la la
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2022, 05:32:24 PM
You who doesn’t choke ppl?  oscar.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 13, 2022, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 05:32:24 PM
You who doesn’t choke ppl?  oscar.

he tried, they just mistook it for a relaxing neck massage
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2022, 06:02:51 PM
You know what this whole UT situation needs?  It needs to relax a little. Like, with one of oscar’s classic shoulder rub/not chokes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on December 13, 2022, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 06:02:51 PM
You know what this whole UT situation needs?  It needs to relax a little. Like, with one of oscar’s classic shoulder rub/not chokes.

oscar would massage his way into a B12 title.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 13, 2022, 07:03:55 PM
Quote from: nicname on December 13, 2022, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 06:02:51 PM
You know what this whole UT situation needs?  It needs to relax a little. Like, with one of oscar’s classic shoulder rub/not chokes.

oscar would massage his way into a B12 title.

We have at least 2 data points to indicate this is true
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on December 13, 2022, 07:08:46 PM
Would also accomplish the rare feat of leading 4 schools to the big dance
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2022, 07:33:47 PM
UT needs to set up a nice house with an easy mowing lawn and push in their chips. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2022, 07:58:30 PM
Bring back Rick Barnes imo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
Ricky B is too good for them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2022, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
Ricky B is too good for them.
Oscar would be perfect in Texas.  He would screech his way into a Dr Pepper and mush it right in our fat faces.  And think what he could do without the adversity of having to recruit to Manhattan or playing in the Big XII.  He would rule the Big XII and then SEC until Beard's players left.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2022, 09:20:10 PM
Prove it, Tex!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 13, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: schreds21 on December 13, 2022, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
Ricky B is too good for them.
Oscar would be perfect in Texas.  He would screech his way into a Dr Pepper and mush it right in our fat faces.  And think what he could do without the adversity of having to recruit to Manhattan or playing in the Big XII.  He would rule the Big XII and then SEC until Beard's players left.

Which would be next spring, and when half of them transferred to KU, Oscar'd grew his hair down to his ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 13, 2022, 09:25:34 PM
I couldn't imagine oscar in another uniform at this point. He is a part of us now and forever. #1Cat
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: schreds21 on December 14, 2022, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on December 13, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: schreds21 on December 13, 2022, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: CNS on December 13, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
Ricky B is too good for them.
Oscar would be perfect in Texas.  He would screech his way into a Dr Pepper and mush it right in our fat faces.  And think what he could do without the adversity of having to recruit to Manhattan or playing in the Big XII.  He would rule the Big XII and then SEC until Beard's players left.

Which would be next spring, and when half of them transferred to KU, Oscar'd grew his hair down to his ass.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
Texas needs oscar Weber.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on December 14, 2022, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
Texas needs oscar Weber.

As long as they all agree to be nice to him on the internet so he can recruit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 14, 2022, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on December 14, 2022, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
Texas needs oscar Weber.

As long as they all agree to be nice to him on the internet so he can recruit

He doesn't need to recruit.  2-year contract.  He is great with the previous regime's players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 14, 2022, 01:51:06 PM
oscar: the perfect stop gap so you don't have to hire someone tomorrow.

Also, can you imagine the whiny crap he would say about us?  It would be great. 

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on December 14, 2022, 01:54:35 PM
The only things oscar chokes are the weeds out of his lawn and the hope out of getting rid of him by year 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
It appears things are rapidly unraveling at Texas Tech. Top portal transfer Fardaws Almaq is going to transfer (go get him JT; average 19 pts and 13 rebs at Utah Valley as a freshman last year) without having played a minute because of a broken foot. Rumors are Mark Adams has lost the team and is on the outs with top donors, including the big daddy with the unlikely name of Dusty Womble, with the two reported not on speaking terms.
Add to this the widespread gossip that Adams had an affair with the wife of his dead twin brother, which apparently started before the brother died.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 14, 2022, 08:10:02 PM
WHAT THE eff
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 14, 2022, 08:42:59 PM
If even 50% of that is true I will insist the mods change your user name to Scoops McGillicuddy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on December 14, 2022, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
Add to this the widespread gossip that Adams had an affair with the wife of his dead twin brother, which apparently started before the brother died.


Deceptively or consensually with the wife?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 14, 2022, 10:56:28 PM
Their fanbase is v engaged right now. I don't think they'll put up with much crap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2022, 11:57:01 PM
Almaq is definitely transferring and is eligible to play immediately. His foot cast came off this week and it's said he'll be ready to hit the court in mid-January.
Meanwhile, Tech fans are saying "that's us" in response to a Fran tweet saying he's hearing some talented teams are starting to crack because of non-payment of NILs and jealousy among NIL have and have-not players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 18, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
Correction It appears they've kissed and paid up in Lubbock, at least in regard to Almaq, who is staying. Be interesting to see if all the rumored team issues are resolved.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 19, 2022, 09:31:41 AM
Man, great to know that with all of this hatred and dissension in the CBB world, the love and joy and good feeling just continue to grow and blossom around Coach Tang and his Cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on December 25, 2022, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 12, 2022, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
Quote from: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 22, 2022, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2022, 07:36:45 AM
My guess is that we'll see this from Howard again, which will again be amusing to see Michigan and the Big 10 squirm.

Hmm, interesting thing to say. Why?

not to speak for Pete, but because he also tried for fight Turgeon last year? 
Going further back, he put a in-game hit out on Lance Stephenson and was sued for giving a woman herpes
So basically he's a piece of crap?

He didn't try to fight Turgeon, they got into an argument. Didn't know about those other two things but they don't show a proclivity for slapping assistant coaches.


He had to be restrained when argue with Turgeon and yelled "I'll rough ridin' kill you."  That's not an argument.  That's an unstable person with a pattern of anger control problems who I suspect will do this again.
https://twitter.com/mikelacett/status/1605771652683399169?s=20&t=c6jEldugSNje_R74mUhaeQ
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on December 26, 2022, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
It appears things are rapidly unraveling at Texas Tech. Top portal transfer Fardaws Almaq is going to transfer (go get him JT; average 19 pts and 13 rebs at Utah Valley as a freshman last year) without having played a minute because of a broken foot. Rumors are Mark Adams has lost the team and is on the outs with top donors, including the big daddy with the unlikely name of Dusty Womble, with the two reported not on speaking terms.
Add to this the widespread gossip that Adams had an affair with the wife of his dead twin brother, which apparently started before the brother died.

better than having an affair with the dead wife of his twin brother
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2023, 12:36:11 PM
I just thought of something.  Bill Self has zero SEC championships.  Texas has the money to hire anyone in the world, and presents the opportunity to compete for SEC championships.   :Lurk:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Mods, please note this thread is no longer featuring the ksu cats
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 08, 2023, 06:04:19 PM
When you're a top-10 team, everything college hoops features the Cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ShellShock on January 09, 2023, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
It appears things are rapidly unraveling at Texas Tech. Top portal transfer Fardaws Almaq is going to transfer (go get him JT; average 19 pts and 13 rebs at Utah Valley as a freshman last year) without having played a minute because of a broken foot. Rumors are Mark Adams has lost the team and is on the outs with top donors, including the big daddy with the unlikely name of Dusty Womble, with the two reported not on speaking terms.
Add to this the widespread gossip that Adams had an affair with the wife of his dead twin brother, which apparently started before the brother died.

Can confirm some of the above is true.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on January 09, 2023, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 08, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Mods, please note this thread is no longer featuring the ksu cats

Not true.  I’m a huge Tang fan, but I’m not sure if it’s a great plan to criticize fans for not buying in enough and then say this.

https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1612611184271802368
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on January 09, 2023, 09:34:22 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KCFDcat on January 09, 2023, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: j-von on January 09, 2023, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 08, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Mods, please note this thread is no longer featuring the ksu cats

Not true.  I’m a huge Tang fan, but I’m not sure if it’s a great plan to criticize fans for not buying in enough and then say this.

https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1612611184271802368

How much money does God want him to be paid?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 09, 2023, 09:37:14 PM
More
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 09, 2023, 09:56:37 PM
How come Oscar never had to answer that question?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on January 09, 2023, 10:05:08 PM
 :pray: :kstategrad: :ohno: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on January 09, 2023, 10:18:58 PM
Lots of schools have wasted lots of money on search firms when they could’ve just prayed.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 09, 2023, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: j-von on January 09, 2023, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 08, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Mods, please note this thread is no longer featuring the ksu cats

Not true.  I’m a huge Tang fan, but I’m not sure if it’s a great plan to criticize fans for not buying in enough and then say this.

https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1612611184271802368

What exactly do you want him to say that would connote buy in?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 09, 2023, 11:55:25 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2023, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: j-von on January 09, 2023, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 08, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Mods, please note this thread is no longer featuring the ksu cats

Not true.  I’m a huge Tang fan, but I’m not sure if it’s a great plan to criticize fans for not buying in enough and then say this.

https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1612611184271802368

What exactly do you want him to say that would connote buy in?

He's going to get more love Tuesday night than he ever has in his professional life, and it'll continue through the season. I really have little worry he'll leave this year or soon as I honestly think he can legit vie for a national championship here and be compensated appropriately.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2023, 11:57:06 PM
Will K-State fans pray enough to convince God? Time will tell...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Trim on January 10, 2023, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 09, 2023, 11:57:06 PM
Will K-State fans pray enough to convince God? Time will tell...

It’s supposed to be a very well-attended game tomorrow and might be a good time to start some organized pregame prayers!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j-von on January 10, 2023, 12:08:29 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2023, 11:37:15 PM
What exactly do you want him to say that would connote buy in?

Pretty much anything other than... If God wants me somewhere else, then I'll be somewhere else.

I don't think it's controversial to say that it wasn't exactly reassuring, but none of us have any idea what's actually in his head or whether it means anything at all.  Mostly it's just damn good bbs'ing material.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on January 10, 2023, 07:01:41 AM
Tang’s job isn’t to be reassuring. There aren’t a ton of programs that are realistic threats to hire him away, but if one of the big boys decides they want him then he doesn’t owe us crap. Leaving it up to God seems like as good a plan as any.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 10, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
At what point does he put AD Taylor in a spot where he has to renegotiate/extend midseason? I mean, we're going to be favorites the next two games and they are very winnable. If we win and hang 90 on KU at home to start the conference play at 6-0, he's got to do something, right?  The rumors will be swirling at that point and he'll be the hottest coaching commodity in the land.  His buyout is a mere $5mil. That's crap when premier programs are paying $10M/year.

He may not be trying to negotiate a raise, but he sure left the door wide open.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KCFDcat on January 10, 2023, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Purple Apathy on January 10, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
At what point does he put AD Taylor in a spot where he has to renegotiate/extend midseason? I mean, we're going to be favorites the next two games and they are very winnable. If we win and hang 90 on KU at home to start the conference play at 6-0, he's got to do something, right?  The rumors will be swirling at that point and he'll be the hottest coaching commodity in the land.  His buyout is a mere $5mil. That's crap when premier programs are paying $10M/year.

He may not be trying to negotiate a raise, but he sure left the door wide open.

Is anyone other than the top 5 programs paying 10m/yr? Beard was making 5 at Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 10, 2023, 08:16:39 AM
Quote from: KCFDcat on January 10, 2023, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Purple Apathy on January 10, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
At what point does he put AD Taylor in a spot where he has to renegotiate/extend midseason? I mean, we're going to be favorites the next two games and they are very winnable. If we win and hang 90 on KU at home to start the conference play at 6-0, he's got to do something, right?  The rumors will be swirling at that point and he'll be the hottest coaching commodity in the land.  His buyout is a mere $5mil. That's crap when premier programs are paying $10M/year.

He may not be trying to negotiate a raise, but he sure left the door wide open.

Is anyone other than the top 5 programs paying 10m/yr? Beard was making 5 at Texas.

https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/ncaab/top-college-basketball-head-coach-salaries-bm10/

HEAD COACH   SCHOOL   SALARY (2021-22)   BUYOUT
Bill Self   Kansas   $10,184,282   $5,410,000
John Calipari   Kentucky   $8,602,306   $47,718,750
Tom Izzo   Michigan St.   $8,341,321   $7,432,454
Jay Wright   Villanova   $6,192,252   N/A
Chris Beard   Texas   $5,255,000   $21,000,000
Rick Barnes   Tennessee   $5,200,000   $23,137,500
Jamie Dixon   TCU   $4,347,975   N/A
Chris Mack   Louisville   $4,257,494   N/A
Bob Huggins   West Virginia   $4,150,000   $4,688,750
Eric Musselman   Arkansas   $4,000,000   $11,433,333

Tang is at $2.1 for reference
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 08:45:00 AM
Quote from: Purple Apathy on January 10, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
At what point does he put AD Taylor in a spot where he has to renegotiate/extend midseason? I mean, we're going to be favorites the next two games and they are very winnable. If we win and hang 90 on KU at home to start the conference play at 6-0, he's got to do something, right?  The rumors will be swirling at that point and he'll be the hottest coaching commodity in the land.  His buyout is a mere $5mil. That's crap when premier programs are paying $10M/year.

He may not be trying to negotiate a raise, but he sure left the door wide open.

You don't extend/negotiate mid season, ever, and pretty clearly Gene won't. He didn't with Klieman, he sure as hell isn't going to do it with a coach in his first season. The basketball season, particularly the conference season, is really short, the Big 12 tournament is 8 weeks from tomorrow. He's not going to take another job, during the season. Worry about this crap after the season. He's also not going to be anywhere close to $10 million, not even $5 unless we win the Big 12 and go to the final four.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 10, 2023, 08:52:30 AM
Div. 1. bball coaches won't bail for another team unless 1) they aren't getting paid fairly, 2) don't get along with AD.  Not sure why we are all freaking out about Tangs contract at this point in time.  What unnecessary drama we have created as a fanbase.  We love to self-sabotage. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 10, 2023, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on January 10, 2023, 08:52:30 AM
Div. 1. bball coaches won't bail for another team unless 1) they aren't getting paid fairly, 2) don't get along with AD.  3) that coach's dream job unexpectedly became available and they have a chance to go home. Not sure why we are all freaking out about Tangs contract at this point in time.  What unnecessary drama we have created as a fanbase.  We love to self-sabotage.

and yes it is a total dry-dick beta move to be worried about our coach leaving us after one season, but on the bright side, when was the last time we had any reason to feel worried about that? Kinda feels nice to have something that other people would love to take from you. Its honestly been over a decade since i felt even the slightest paranoia over a coach leaving us and honestly i don't hate it. nice to feel those kinds of emotions again.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
I wouldn't have been concerned if he gave a halfway decent answer.  It's a pretty glaring misstep for someone who seems to be calculated and executing perfectly since he's taken the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on January 10, 2023, 08:52:30 AM
Div. 1. bball coaches won't bail for another team unless 1) they aren't getting paid fairly, 2) don't get along with AD.  Not sure why we are all freaking out about Tangs contract at this point in time.  What unnecessary drama we have created as a fanbase.  We love to self-sabotage.

Not "we all" the people losing their crap is a miniscule minority, same with the number of people crying because the coaches actually expressed the need to see a full arena. These stressful ass drama queens are rough ridin' up twitter right now. They are also setting up the mother of all meltdowns once we lose.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:31:35 AM
He gave the perfect answer for getting God to give you the best extension you can get.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
I wouldn't have been concerned if he gave a halfway decent answer.  It's a pretty glaring misstep for someone who seems to be calculated and executing perfectly since he's taken the job.

You want him to have a calculated answer about jobs he definitely hasn't been offered yet? Wouldn't a calculated response to this question, the first week of January, speak to his mind not being focused on where it needs to be? No, I don't want him to have a crafted answer to that question on January 9th off his first season as a head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on January 10, 2023, 09:39:01 AM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on January 10, 2023, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on January 10, 2023, 08:52:30 AM
Div. 1. bball coaches won't bail for another team unless 1) they aren't getting paid fairly, 2) don't get along with AD.  3) that coach's dream job unexpectedly became available and they have a chance to go home. Not sure why we are all freaking out about Tangs contract at this point in time.  What unnecessary drama we have created as a fanbase.  We love to self-sabotage.

and yes it is a total dry-dick beta move to be worried about our coach leaving us after one season, but on the bright side, when was the last time we had any reason to feel worried about that? Kinda feels nice to have something that other people would love to take from you. Its honestly been over a decade since i felt even the slightest paranoia over a coach leaving us and honestly i don't hate it. nice to feel those kinds of emotions again.
I think it’s also about time we came to grips with the fact that KSU is just an easy place to win. Our past two coaches each had E8 appearances, and the last one we fired got us two conference titles.

Tang’s ability to create a whole new team from a bottom dwelling roster is still nothing short of incredible, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that if Tang decides to go somewhere else, God will provide us another championship-caliber coach. We should do whatever it takes to make sure that never happens, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that if Tang decides to go somewhere else, God will provide us another championship-caliber coach. We should do whatever it takes to make sure that never happens, though.

You seem to be ass stricken over the fact that he's a man of faith. Y'all keep shoehorning God in your posts is real goofy behavior.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on January 10, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
The dude was at Baylor for a really long time.  To me, that makes it seem like he was very loyal to Scott Drew because he gave him a shot.  The same can probably be said here, KSU gave him his first head coaching chance.  He "seems" like a guy that is going to be loyal....doesn't mean he wouldn't leave in the future, but I can't see him leaving after one year when he's had such great early season success.

Quit worrying for now, dorks.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that if Tang decides to go somewhere else, God will provide us another championship-caliber coach. We should do whatever it takes to make sure that never happens, though.

You seem to be ass stricken over the fact that he's a man of faith. Y'all keep shoehorning God in your posts is real goofy behavior.

No, it's probably my favorite thing about him. It's still fun to poke fun sometimes, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 10, 2023, 09:56:07 AM
God!!! Hur hur
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
I wouldn't have been concerned if he gave a halfway decent answer.  It's a pretty glaring misstep for someone who seems to be calculated and executing perfectly since he's taken the job.

You want him to have a calculated answer about jobs he definitely hasn't been offered yet? Wouldn't a calculated response to this question, the first week of January, speak to his mind not being focused on where it needs to be? No, I don't want him to have a crafted answer to that question on January 9th off his first season as a head coach.

Yes, I want him to have a calculated answer to getting asked about job openings.  He clearly planned/expected to be successful quickly from all of his preseason talk.  It's naive to think that doesn't result in having to answer questions about job openings.  Maybe the "God's plan" is going to be his response for 5 years, but the first time it's not terribly reassuring.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 10:12:22 AM
I'm sure he would rather make more money than less, just like everyone else would. If we pay him fairly, he will stay.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 10, 2023, 10:16:06 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
I wouldn't have been concerned if he gave a halfway decent answer.  It's a pretty glaring misstep for someone who seems to be calculated and executing perfectly since he's taken the job.

You want him to have a calculated answer about jobs he definitely hasn't been offered yet? Wouldn't a calculated response to this question, the first week of January, speak to his mind not being focused on where it needs to be? No, I don't want him to have a crafted answer to that question on January 9th off his first season as a head coach.

Yes, I want him to have a calculated answer to getting asked about job openings.  He clearly planned/expected to be successful quickly from all of his preseason talk.  It's naive to think that doesn't result in having to answer questions about job openings.  Maybe the "God's plan" is going to be his response for 5 years, but the first time it's not terribly reassuring.

Whaat rubbish. Why would he anticipate this question. What difference on week in Texas makes. A week ago, Tang wasn't on nayone's radar (if he is now). And if you've listened to him at ll the last 10 months, you know god and Jesus are his go-to comfort zone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
I would argue that his response was very calculated
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 11:02:08 AM
He should anticipate questions about job openings because every single successful coach is going to get them. 

Quote from: michigancat on January 10, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
I would argue that his response was very calculated

Perhaps but that isn't going to make me feel any better  :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2023, 11:29:43 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that if Tang decides to go somewhere else, God will provide us another championship-caliber coach. We should do whatever it takes to make sure that never happens, though.

You seem to be ass stricken over the fact that he's a man of faith. Y'all keep shoehorning God in your posts is real goofy behavior.

No, it's probably my favorite thing about him. It's still fun to poke fun sometimes, though.

Yes, what a great way to not have to take responsibility for your decisions. "boy, personally I want to coach at Texas but God wants me at ksu cats so what can I do?"
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 11:02:08 AM
He should anticipate questions about job openings because every single successful coach is going to get them. 

Quote from: michigancat on January 10, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
I would argue that his response was very calculated

Perhaps but that isn't going to make me feel any better  :dubious:

It was literally the first time he's fielded the question and he's 2.5 months into his career as a head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2023, 11:37:51 AM
You can’t win in these situations, he’s handled it well I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 10, 2023, 11:29:43 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 10, 2023, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that if Tang decides to go somewhere else, God will provide us another championship-caliber coach. We should do whatever it takes to make sure that never happens, though.

You seem to be ass stricken over the fact that he's a man of faith. Y'all keep shoehorning God in your posts is real goofy behavior.

No, it's probably my favorite thing about him. It's still fun to poke fun sometimes, though.

Yes, what a great way to not have to take responsibility for your decisions. "boy, personally I want to coach at Texas but God wants me at ksu cats so what can I do?"

Or, and I know this is wild and crazy, his answer was exactly how he felt at the time he was asked. If he left and that's his answer, I agree that it would be horseshit, we made fun of Hugh Freeze for saying something similar after getting the Auburn job, skirting telling us his actual though process. In this case, it's perfectly reasonable that he hasn't given much thought as to why he's going to either leave or stay at his job he's had for less than a year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on January 10, 2023, 11:40:58 AM
Add that to the list of stupid media questions, btw. I mean it’s obviously something Gene should be aware of if there are any feelers out there, but just pointless to ask a coach if they’re entertaining another job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2023, 11:43:16 AM
Ftr I have absolutely no problem with his answer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 10, 2023, 11:44:23 AM
It's not a dumb question at all. There's speculation out there, it's fair to see how he responds to the question.  :dunno: They're not doing their jobs if they don't ask. Their shitty, low paying jobs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2023, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: OK_Cat on January 10, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
The dude was at Baylor for a really long time.  To me, that makes it seem like he was very loyal to Scott Drew because he gave him a shot.  The same can probably be said here, KSU gave him his first head coaching chance.  He "seems" like a guy that is going to be loyal....doesn't mean he wouldn't leave in the future, but I can't see him leaving after one year when he's had such great early season success.

Quit worrying for now, dorks.

That's where I'm at, and as others stated he's not leaving midseason, his stock is very high (as it should be) right now but there is a lot of if and buts to go. Also, we did give him a shot, that I think does matter to him unless he is thrown stupid amounts of money.

Also, it doesn't make sense for a school to poach someone from a fairly decent historical program unless it's like to Duke/UNC, and even then I can't see either of those schools making a move midseason on that.

If we end up with 20+ wins, make the tourny, and win a game or two, he'll get a sizeable raise as he should, and that'll make next year interesting, if he repeats the success then I'll worry more about him potentially leaving unless we throw him a ton of money. He'll definitely get more than a 100k raise next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2023, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2023, 10:12:22 AM
I'm sure he would rather make more money than less, just like everyone else would. If we pay him fairly, he will stay.

Correct IMO
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on January 10, 2023, 11:58:49 AM
You guys are having your Lance Leipold freakout moment. All will be well in Tang Town, at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on January 10, 2023, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: DreamWeaver69 on January 10, 2023, 11:44:23 AM
It's not a dumb question at all. There's speculation out there, it's fair to see how he responds to the question.  :dunno: They're not doing their jobs if they don't ask. Their shitty, low paying jobs.
Can you name a time where a coach answered that question directly or honestly?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 10, 2023, 12:05:51 PM
Quote from: DreamWeaver69 on January 10, 2023, 11:44:23 AM
It's not a dumb question at all. There's speculation out there, it's fair to see how he responds to the question.  :dunno: They're not doing their jobs if they don't ask. Their shitty, low paying jobs.

It's a dumb question. The only truly newsworthy answer would be. "My interview is set up for Weds at 3pm, wish me luck".  All other possible answers are just click-bait and not actual journalism. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on January 10, 2023, 12:14:04 PM
I'm not particularly scared that he's leaving for UT.  I just don't like his response to the question.  It could certainly be that he was just being 100% honest and not giving the coach speak, which is respectable but not reassuring.

I don't think UT is offering an unmatchable load of cash to someone who's coached 15 games. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on January 10, 2023, 12:23:29 PM
i for one, care about what's best for tang. he deserves a better fanbase, one that he doesn't have to beg to come out to the games.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 10, 2023, 12:29:48 PM
ok, i realize that at this moment i'm high asf from Eau De Tang, but like, serious multi-part question:
1. Does Tang legit have a path to success at k-state? As in like, "realistically competing for a natty" level success. I think last night in football it was abundantly clear what it looks like when you have such a disparity in talent, and realistically for any team that will be in the Big12 in the year 2025 that could legit be a 10-15 year process in order to meaningfully close that gap (if it can even be done). But i don't think that disparity exists in college basketball. I don't think teams like Butler make it to the FF in back to back years if that's the case. If it were always chalk then i think it would be a lot more common for the FF to have nothing wlower than a 2 or 3 seed.
2. If Tang DOES have a legit path to success here, and we can pay him a fair wage as compared to his peers and provide him with all the support he believes is necessary to be successful (i.e. well paid assistants, facility upgrades on a reasonable schedule, etc.) then wouldn't it make sense for him to want to stay?

Like idk, maybe this is just chip-on-my-shoulder syndrome, but I would argue that the success of a coach like LHOFHC Liam Synder is more impressive than like, Gene Chizik, for example, even though Chizik has more national titles but he also walked into a well oiled machine.

Maybe that is an incredibly stupid way to think about it. Maybe any coach with half a brain would gladly suck off a homeless drifter if it meant getting the opportunity to coach at a place like UT and the like. But i dunno. I could see the point of view of a coach taking pride in the fact that they can actually hit a home run instead of getting to start on 3rd base. Not to mention you don't have all the political landmines like big swingin weiner donors who have their own ideas about how things should be done.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KSUfaithful on January 10, 2023, 12:41:10 PM
The parity of talent in college basketball is much closer than the talent gap in college football. The opportunity to win a college basketball natty is much more attainable, for most middle tier institutions, than in football. Tang could certainly compete for FFs and a Natty here if he gets the support he needs.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2023, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: stunted on January 10, 2023, 12:23:29 PM
i for one, care about what's best for tang. he deserves a better fanbase, one that he doesn't have to beg to come out to the games.

That's probably not Texas then
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Baylor won a natty playing in front of 70-80% capacity crowds
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2023, 12:59:54 PM
I really enjoy having a coach other schools want as their coach. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on January 10, 2023, 01:23:21 PM
Quote from: star seed 7 on January 10, 2023, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: stunted on January 10, 2023, 12:23:29 PM
i for one, care about what's best for tang. he deserves a better fanbase, one that he doesn't have to beg to come out to the games.

That's probably not Texas then

we couldn't even bother to shop up for a 2 time big 12 champion and elite 8 coach. huggins had to beg for fans to come out. tang had to beg. maybe we should keep removing seats. pathetic.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2023, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on January 10, 2023, 12:29:48 PM
ok, i realize that at this moment i'm high asf from Eau De Tang, but like, serious multi-part question:
1. Does Tang legit have a path to success at k-state? As in like, "realistically competing for a natty" level success. I think last night in football it was abundantly clear what it looks like when you have such a disparity in talent, and realistically for any team that will be in the Big12 in the year 2025 that could legit be a 10-15 year process in order to meaningfully close that gap (if it can even be done). But i don't think that disparity exists in college basketball. I don't think teams like Butler make it to the FF in back to back years if that's the case. If it were always chalk then i think it would be a lot more common for the FF to have nothing wlower than a 2 or 3 seed.
2. If Tang DOES have a legit path to success here, and we can pay him a fair wage as compared to his peers and provide him with all the support he believes is necessary to be successful (i.e. well paid assistants, facility upgrades on a reasonable schedule, etc.) then wouldn't it make sense for him to want to stay?

Like idk, maybe this is just chip-on-my-shoulder syndrome, but I would argue that the success of a coach like LHOFHC Liam Synder is more impressive than like, Gene Chizik, for example, even though Chizik has more national titles but he also walked into a well oiled machine.

Maybe that is an incredibly stupid way to think about it. Maybe any coach with half a brain would gladly suck off a homeless drifter if it meant getting the opportunity to coach at a place like UT and the like. But i dunno. I could see the point of view of a coach taking pride in the fact that they can actually hit a home run instead of getting to start on 3rd base. Not to mention you don't have all the political landmines like big swingin weiner donors who have their own ideas about how things should be done.

Dude. Baylor and Texas freaking Tech are out here playing in National Championship games and you're asking if there is a legit path to success at K-State?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2023, 02:14:35 PM
I mean my word. Purdue might win it all this year. oscar Weber was a game against Loyola Chicago away from a Final Four. Houston made a Final Four recently.

Yes, a few national powers dominate, but there's room for other teams.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on January 10, 2023, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2023, 02:14:35 PM
I mean my word. Purdue might win it all this year. oscar Weber was a game against Loyola Chicago away from a Final Four. Houston made a Final Four recently.

Yes, a few national powers dominate, but there's room for other teams.
PLENTY of room. Only a loser mindset can hold you back from greatness!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 10, 2023, 03:04:42 PM
thank you, gentlemen. This is the reassurance i was looking for. In my mind it makes perfect sense but i just needed to make sure i wasn't sounding like some delusional pathetic tater homer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 14, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
Texas needs to grab Calipari at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2023, 11:51:52 AM
They can do way better
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 17, 2023, 01:28:03 PM
Who is more likely to coach UK next year, Tang or Beard?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 03:01:09 PM
I’d take the field vs those two
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on January 17, 2023, 08:32:11 PM
Dave Bliss is about as likely as Beard
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 17, 2023, 08:50:45 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on January 14, 2023, 11:51:52 AM
They can do way better

I'll bet they don't.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 18, 2023, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 03:01:09 PM
I’d take the field vs those two

That wasn't the point of this exercise.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2023, 12:43:14 PM
Ho Lee crap
https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1632442626652897280
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1632447697780088832
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2023, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 05, 2023, 12:43:14 PM
Ho Lee crap
https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1632442626652897280
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1632447697780088832
What a crap trail Beard left behind this year
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 05, 2023, 12:56:30 PM
Tech wants to save some money it seems
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 05, 2023, 01:19:01 PM
“slobbered on the player” got me
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 05, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
the part where he's proselytizing at a public school isn't even worth mentioning i guess...pretty sad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 05, 2023, 07:30:20 PM
seriously, do they bring back Beard now? "he may be a wife beater, but at least he's no racist!" 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2023, 07:36:37 PM
The rumor is the UNT coach (former Baylor assistant) is the front runner
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 08, 2023, 12:52:21 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1633539547064590361
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Gooch on March 08, 2023, 01:30:53 PM
The SEC simply does not give a eff. Good grief.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2023, 01:31:40 PM
God's plan
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 08, 2023, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: Gooch on March 08, 2023, 01:30:53 PM
The SEC simply does not give a eff. Good grief.
People forget about domestic abuse a lot faster than they forget about championships.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
All charges were dropped, looks like this group is a guilty until proven innocent crowd, sad really.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 08, 2023, 02:44:02 PM
Quote from: Gooch on March 08, 2023, 01:30:53 PM
The SEC simply does not give a eff. Good grief.
They really do not give a eff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 08, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 08, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
All charges were dropped, looks like this group is a guilty until proven innocent crowd, sad really.
Were the facts disputed? That’s different than dropping relatively minor criminal charges.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 08, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
The court of law can have their standard and I can have mine.  Nothing that's come out seems to indicate that he didn't do it, just that the victim felt it was in her best interest not to press charges.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 08, 2023, 12:52:21 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1633539547064590361

lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 08, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 08, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
All charges were dropped, looks like this group is a guilty until proven innocent crowd, sad really.
Were the facts disputed? That’s different than dropping relatively minor criminal charges.

He's being facetious
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 08, 2023, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 08, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 08, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 08, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
All charges were dropped, looks like this group is a guilty until proven innocent crowd, sad really.
Were the facts disputed? That’s different than dropping relatively minor criminal charges.

He's being facetious

I realize that, but as far as gallows humor goes, it's hard to stomach when it comes to domestic violence.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 08, 2023, 05:15:10 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 08, 2023, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 08, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on March 08, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 08, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
All charges were dropped, looks like this group is a guilty until proven innocent crowd, sad really.
Were the facts disputed? That’s different than dropping relatively minor criminal charges.

He's being facetious

I realize that, but as far as gallows humor goes, it's hard to stomach swallow when it comes to domestic violence.

more fitting given the facts of his case.

Okay i'm going to go scrub myself with a brillo pad now. am i a "comedy purist"? absolutely. did i "go there"? you bet i did. Does that make me feel "gross"? also yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2023, 08:51:45 PM
I saw on the scroll that dumbstick got fired from Cal after going 3-29 lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: dal9 on March 10, 2023, 10:23:19 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 09, 2023, 08:51:45 PM
I saw on the scroll that dumbstick got fired from Cal after going 3-29 lol

where do u get hired after 3-29?  at one of california's unaccredited law schools or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OK_Cat on March 10, 2023, 10:43:47 AM
He'll probably end up at Tech  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 10, 2023, 01:18:18 PM
True story from the DB92 archives: a young KITH was doing color for one of the Asbury b-ball games and at that time, if the Cats actually won the game, one of the assistant coaches would come do the post game interview. The student crew used to be at the very top of Bramlage, so the play-by-play guy would walk down to the court after the game to fetch the assistant coach (otherwise they'd forget) and then walk all the way back to the top. On this occasion, the play-by-play guy and Mark Fox were about halfway up the stairs and I yelled "we're on in 15 seconds!" and then they both hauled ass up to the top of the stairs and when they got to the top I said, "just kidding"

Always had mad respect for Mark Fox running up those stairs for the student radio station - what a trooper. Not quite as much respect for his b-ball coaching skills...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 11, 2023, 08:00:56 AM
Very low mark adams iq admittedly, but if he doesn't look EXACTLY like the type of guy that would do every bit of that crap then that person doesn't exist.  Central casting wouldn't send him because he's too on the nose. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: KST8FAN on March 12, 2023, 09:09:32 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35836800/wichita-state-set-fire-coach-isaac-brown-per-sources

Tom

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2023, 08:37:43 PM
UNC is the first team ever to be the preseason AP #1 and fail to make the tournament.  Now they have turned down their NIT bid.

I'd say Hubert is on a very hot seat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
An alum that was hand picked by Roy and made it to the national championship game last year is on the hot seat?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2023, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
An alum that was hand picked by Roy and made it to the national championship game last year is on the hot seat?
Roy will turn on him fast enough. He did it to Dougherty.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2023, 09:04:30 PM
And UNC has espn’s 24th rated recruiting class coming in.  I bet they are not super pumped about that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 12, 2023, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Pete on March 12, 2023, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 12, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
An alum that was hand picked by Roy and made it to the national championship game last year is on the hot seat?
Roy will turn on him fast enough. He did it to Dougherty.

Not the same situation. I don't know about the hot seat right now, but he'll definitely have a short leash.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
I once rode an elevator at the Westin in New Orleans with Hubert Davis, he was working for ESPN at the time.

Very nice man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2023, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
I once rode an elevator at the Westin in New Orleans with Hubert Davis, he was working for ESPN at the time.

Very nice man.
I definitely don’t like UNC very much, but I am glad to hear that he’s a nice guy. He’ll probably do fairly well, but I bet he’ll be under appreciated at UNC.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on March 13, 2023, 08:47:11 AM
Wild that Beard is getting a shot at a P5 school the same year of his DV.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: konofo on March 13, 2023, 09:23:49 AM
Quote from: kstater on March 13, 2023, 08:47:11 AM
Wild that Beard is getting a shot at a P5 school the same year of his DV.
"It Just Means More.  Winning, that is, not any of that other bullshit."

kono
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 09:41:34 AM
Quote from: Pete on March 12, 2023, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
I once rode an elevator at the Westin in New Orleans with Hubert Davis, he was working for ESPN at the time.

Very nice man.
I definitely don’t like UNC very much, but I am glad to hear that he’s a nice guy. He’ll probably do fairly well, but I bet he’ll be under appreciated at UNC.
There’s already a meltdown brewing.  They’re insane, but at a half notch lower than Kentucky Basketball and Ohio State Football fans.

The biggest thing I noticed is that they just look like they’re in cruise control a lot of the time and I thought the same thing last year.  But they turned it on in some big games last year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
The multi-discipline and multi-institutional study of the professional/collegiate sports hiring/firing explanation and rationalization process would require an endless supply of money and have people who start the process, but never live to see it finished involved.

https://apnews.com/article/chris-beard-texas-ole-miss-b6b2fa526e721d9c40de49b967625271
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
The multi-discipline and multi-institutional study of the professional/collegiate sports hiring/firing explanation and rationalization process would require an endless supply of money and have people who start the process, but never live to see it finished involved.

https://apnews.com/article/chris-beard-texas-ole-miss-b6b2fa526e721d9c40de49b967625271
Was his fiance at the presser?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 14, 2023, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
The multi-discipline and multi-institutional study of the professional/collegiate sports hiring/firing explanation and rationalization process would require an endless supply of money and have people who start the process, but never live to see it finished involved.

https://apnews.com/article/chris-beard-texas-ole-miss-b6b2fa526e721d9c40de49b967625271
Was his fiance at the presser?

I'm not exactly sure who those women are, one kind of looks like his fiance.

https://twitter.com/Ten12Network/status/1635612543833231362?s=20
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2023, 09:48:25 AM
The Rodney Terry thing is fascinating to me.  I kind of hope he makes a huge run in the tourney and then takes another job and UT gets spurned by everyone until they get to like a Steve Forbes level candidate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 10:20:49 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 14, 2023, 09:48:25 AM
The Rodney Terry thing is fascinating to me.  I kind of hope he makes a huge run in the tourney and then takes another job and UT gets spurned by everyone until they get to like a Steve Forbes level candidate.

He has a decently long head coaching resume that is pretty mediocre but I bet he stays regardless of tourney results.

Why do you think UT would be spurned if he left though?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2023, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 10:20:49 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 14, 2023, 09:48:25 AM
The Rodney Terry thing is fascinating to me.  I kind of hope he makes a huge run in the tourney and then takes another job and UT gets spurned by everyone until they get to like a Steve Forbes level candidate.

He has a decently long head coaching resume that is pretty mediocre but I bet he stays regardless of tourney results.

Why do you think UT would be spurned if he left though?

Read a national article on on3 that they want Drew and Sampson and both are likely to say no.  Some of it is just me hoping for a dumpster fire for UT on the way out.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 10:46:36 AM
there's a pretty big gap between Drew and Sampson and Steve Forbes.

just off the top of my head, I could see Calipari doing a career reset with them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2023, 10:58:05 AM
Nate Oats would be another that would probably be a target but he probably will back the money truck up to Bama. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2023, 11:14:11 AM
My dream scenario is that Self decides to quit to enjoy and extend life, TX publicly states that they will be looking to hire outside the current staff, then KU snipes TX’s pick and TX gets someone they didn’t want.

That would warm my heart.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 15, 2023, 01:40:42 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 14, 2023, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 14, 2023, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
The multi-discipline and multi-institutional study of the professional/collegiate sports hiring/firing explanation and rationalization process would require an endless supply of money and have people who start the process, but never live to see it finished involved.

https://apnews.com/article/chris-beard-texas-ole-miss-b6b2fa526e721d9c40de49b967625271
Was his fiance at the presser?

I'm not exactly sure who those women are, one kind of looks like his fiance.

https://twitter.com/Ten12Network/status/1635612543833231362?s=20

Not sure if serious but that's two of his three daughters
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2023, 01:52:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1637888963422593054

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1637868476965478417
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 20, 2023, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2023, 01:52:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1637888963422593054

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1637868476965478417
A molder of men.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 20, 2023, 02:47:14 PM
I really want Cooley to shave his head.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 20, 2023, 03:43:59 PM
Talk of Kim EEnglish to Providence
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on March 20, 2023, 03:45:05 PM
Are we sure Cooley left and wasn't stealth friared?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2023, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: Spracne on March 20, 2023, 03:45:05 PM
Are we sure Cooley left and wasn't stealth friared?
Maybe he needed to kick a bad habit?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 20, 2023, 04:04:03 PM
Georgetown was always his providence
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 06:52:17 PM
Appears TTech is going to hire MaCasland, the North Texas guy from the Drew tree and boring offense we passed on last year. Word is they called Tang, who told them eff off in his Christian way. Also called Bennett from St. Marys, who also said no effing way I'm going to that godforsaken west Texas wasteland (to be fair he has apparently said no to a number for mid-level PAC schools).
In other news, Wichita State is said to have offered Miles of Oral Roberts, another former Drew assistant and frankly a more exciting hire than MaCasoand IMO.


w
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Scott Drew tree now has HC Wichita State, KSU, TTU not too shabby
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 08:21:24 PM
I guess it's Mills not Miles at WSU. North Texas is showcasing its boring ass offense, defense first game against the Poke tonight in the NIT. 55 all at the end of regulation in a true eyesore game.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Scott Drew tree now has HC Wichita State, KSU, TTU not too shabby
Compare that to the Bill Self coaching tree of failures Danny Manning and Tim Jankovich.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2023, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Scott Drew tree now has HC Wichita State, KSU, TTU not too shabby
Compare that to the Bill Self coaching tree of failures Danny Manning and Tim Jankovich.
and joe dooley
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 09:10:21 PM
When you look at it in this context, a second round exit under Norm Roberts should have been expected. And how overworked is ol weak-ticker Bill with all these mediocre assistants?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 21, 2023, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: pissclams on March 21, 2023, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2023, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Scott Drew tree now has HC Wichita State, KSU, TTU not too shabby
Compare that to the Bill Self coaching tree of failures Danny Manning and Tim Jankovich.
and joe dooley
and Norm Roberts
and Barry Hinson
and Doc Sadler (kinda/sorta from Self coaching tree)

For a hall of famer with 30 years of head coaching experience, it's a quite underwhelming coaching tree.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 10:02:11 PM
What’s the Tom Izzo tree look like?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2023, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 21, 2023, 10:02:11 PM
What’s the Tom Izzo tree look like?

A lot of dudes with limited success but haven't been able to hold jobs, most notably Tom Crean, Stan Heath, and Brian Gregory.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2023, 09:27:50 AM
https://twitter.com/jarrid_denney/status/1638392509092212737?s=46&t=8LFi4v4wWdQ943OQeWeVww
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2023, 09:27:50 AM
https://twitter.com/jarrid_denney/status/1638392509092212737?s=46&t=8LFi4v4wWdQ943OQeWeVww

wait is he complaining about NIT attendance? lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2023, 09:51:29 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 22, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2023, 09:27:50 AM
https://twitter.com/jarrid_denney/status/1638392509092212737?s=46&t=8LFi4v4wWdQ943OQeWeVww

wait is he complaining about NIT attendance? lol

That's pretty bad, it was the last game of the year and most fan bases would have shown up better than that. They don't have nearly enough historical success to ignore a deep nit run. crap even Oklahoma State has more fans at their game than that. Really though he should just quit it that's his attitude, the program there has definitely gone stale.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on March 22, 2023, 09:53:12 AM
I'm sure he was disappointed in the NIT attendance but that has to be more about fan support all year.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: passranch on March 22, 2023, 12:35:26 PM
In his defense it is the Pac-12

#ItJustMeansLess
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Did Dana pioneer the four out, one in “Oregon” set the kids talk about these days?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2023, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Did Dana pioneer the four out, one in “Oregon” set the kids talk about these days?

Unless there's a variation I'm unaware of, no he didn't, we ran that offense when I was in high school in the early 90s.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 03:47:51 PM
Lot of itk smoke recently of Brad to Texas coming from the Illinois side.  Allegedly it would already be official if they weren't still playing.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 22, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
Brad really loves orange
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 22, 2023, 04:17:50 PM
I have a hard time believing Texas isn't going to go with Terry.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 22, 2023, 04:27:24 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 22, 2023, 04:17:50 PM
I have a hard time believing Texas isn't going to go with Terry.

Agree.

If I'm Tech, maybe I wait and see if they do get rid of him and then grab him or is that too close to Beard for them?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 04:42:39 PM
His head coaching record outside of this season is objectively bad.  Seems short sighted to hang everything on one successful season.  They ran off Barnes to hire a guy that couldn't dominate mid-major conferences?  Unlikely, though they have apparently heard quite a few nos so far, thus the Brad stuff. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 04:49:45 PM
Additional itk nugg: unrelated to Texas, seems if other dominoes were to fall (say kentucky opening up and hiring away Muss), then Brad would go balls out for Arkansas.  Illinois' AD is very put off by the job searching after this season.  Didn't mind the go purples fight on state stuff last season.  Putting out feelers to potential candidates they say.  Real hot stove crap boys.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 04:54:07 PM
Probably nothing will happen tho.  It's somewhat interesting how much of a boner most Illinois hoops bbsers have for Brad leaving.  Usually they are panicky, insecure bitches like with Self and the entire coaching search that led to Groce.  They really don't like Brad.  No doom and gloom, just a bunch of pie in the sky who could we get speculation.  They have a lot of faith in the current AD. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2023, 05:31:25 PM
Kim English to Providence
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on March 22, 2023, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 22, 2023, 05:31:25 PM
Kim English to Providence

Wow, that is great!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Mr Bread on March 22, 2023, 05:48:08 PM
Shrewsberry to ND.  He runs great offense.  Took Brad to school this year. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2023, 06:32:32 PM
Why on earth would Arkansas or Texas want to hire Brad
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 22, 2023, 06:55:50 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 22, 2023, 05:31:25 PM
Kim English to Providence
Oh my, what a great get for him. Prov has become an established quality program. Good for Kim!

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on March 22, 2023, 07:06:40 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 22, 2023, 06:32:32 PM
Why on earth would Arkansas or Texas want to hire Brad
KSU pedigree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
Did Tech really thing they had a shot at Tang leaving? Were they offering him quadruple the pay or something?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 27, 2023, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
Did Tech really thing they had a shot at Tang leaving? Were they offering him quadruple the pay or something?
It was a call they had to make. I supposed any Power 5 Texas team has to make that call now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ELL3 on March 27, 2023, 09:56:25 PM
I had the honor of spending Saturday and Sunday in Omaha with my Husker in laws. Belief from them (There are actually Nebraska basketball fans) that Altman could happen if the Hoiberg could be dispatched cheaply. Dana must hate Oregon if he would entertain the move.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
Did Tech really thing they had a shot at Tang leaving? Were they offering him quadruple the pay or something?

No, it was literally just twitter dummies.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2023, 02:56:41 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveNorrisTV/status/1655633826687623170?s=20

West Virginia come on down and join the fun!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 08, 2023, 03:11:27 PM
That's no reason to fire Huggins.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
that guy gives big Greg Swaim vibes
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 08, 2023, 03:35:00 PM
Are we sure that's not an AI Bob Huggins?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
that guy gives big Greg Swaim vibes
https://twitter.com/SleppyPxP/status/1655671574974832677?s=20
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on May 08, 2023, 03:41:00 PM
He still has that Cinci hate of X in him, apparently.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 08, 2023, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on May 08, 2023, 03:35:00 PM
Are we sure that's not an AI Bob Huggins?

lol that was my first thought too
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
that guy gives big Greg Swaim vibes
https://twitter.com/SleppyPxP/status/1655671574974832677?s=20

dang that doesn't sound great

still strong swaim vibes (minus accurate reporting)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on May 08, 2023, 04:31:11 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachHuggs/status/1330205171025113090?t=vxT4yyy7hMo-O4yZ1fQaDw
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: CHONGS on May 08, 2023, 04:31:11 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachHuggs/status/1330205171025113090?t=vxT4yyy7hMo-O4yZ1fQaDw
LMAO no way
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on May 08, 2023, 05:48:03 PM
I had to look that dude up, forgot about that incident.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2023, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on May 08, 2023, 05:48:03 PM
I had to look that dude up, forgot about that incident.
He was catching a lot of extra attention on Twitter today, even before people discovered the wvu visit
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 08, 2023, 10:12:40 PM
Sometimes it seems like all of you got your Masters degree in “Checking the Date of the Tweet” from the prestigious Spracne University.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 08, 2023, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on May 08, 2023, 10:12:40 PM
Sometimes it seems like all of you got your Masters degree in “Checking the Date of the Tweet” from the prestigious Spracne University.
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2023, 10:39:38 PM
That was a cheap shot  :blank:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on May 08, 2023, 11:01:37 PM
Quote from: CHONGS on May 08, 2023, 04:31:11 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachHuggs/status/1330205171025113090?t=vxT4yyy7hMo-O4yZ1fQaDw

How many times do you think they said the word mommy while sipping gin in Huggs' office before that practice?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2023, 04:36:05 AM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on May 08, 2023, 10:12:40 PM
Sometimes it seems like all of you got your Masters degree in “Checking the Date of the Tweet” from the prestigious Spracne University.
Did you think the date was relevant when it was clearly post-Castellanos home run?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 17, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1658948787367190528
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2023, 01:24:59 AM
can we uninvite the new big 12 members?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 18, 2023, 09:15:18 AM
If this happens, can we give LJ Cryer a call again?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 09, 2023, 01:54:36 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1667177226822103040
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on June 09, 2023, 02:13:17 PM
It's only a technical position, tho
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on June 09, 2023, 06:14:12 PM
I believe the correct term is “director” (with air quotes of spoken in person)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2023, 09:34:53 PM
Good luck, Jerome Yang!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 09, 2023, 09:40:03 PM
Somebody please tell me how upset, if at all, I should feel about this. Tia
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 10, 2023, 10:08:40 AM
He will be funneling elite dudes to the 'Cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: tdaver on June 10, 2023, 10:31:59 AM
And his replacement will be funneling elite dudes to the Cats.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 10, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
yeah, can't look at having a bro in-house at IMG as anything but a positive.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 05, 2023, 09:43:28 AM
https://twitter.com/sportsinkansas/status/1676578875457916928?s=20
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on July 05, 2023, 09:58:48 AM
P good move by Grant imo
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 05, 2023, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on July 05, 2023, 09:58:48 AM
P good move by Grant imo

yeah. no doubt
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2024, 01:13:21 PM
#gottliebforoSu

https://twitter.com/OklahomanSports/status/1769781067773325793?s=20
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2024, 01:21:05 PM
Doug kind of pulled a Frank Martin and withered on the vine purely for money
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 18, 2024, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 18, 2024, 01:21:05 PM
Doug kind of pulled a Frank Martin and withered on the vine purely for money
Can't believe it has been seven yrs since Frank's F4 run at SC. Looks like got UMass back to 20 wins this season.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on March 21, 2024, 04:39:30 PM
We’re gonna have to rename this thread again, aren’t we?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2024, 05:30:05 PM
grease the zerks at the minimum
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2024, 07:40:42 PM
The drinking Hugginses just hired Drake’s coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 25, 2024, 11:11:17 AM
Interesting how this season lowered Tang on Louisville's list. He appeared to be most fans #1 until midseason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2024, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 25, 2024, 11:11:17 AM
Interesting how this season lowered Tang on Louisville's list. He appeared to be most fans #1 until midseason.

This was a narrative driven solely by one blogger, who's rarely correct. He did the same damn thing with Dusty May, often putting him and Tang on the same lists. He didn't have Tang or May going to Michigan. I knew trilly was making up crap when he insisted that tang was leaving K-State for Louisville literally as Tang was moving his elderly parents from Florida to Kansas, in the dead ass of winter.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on March 25, 2024, 12:55:35 PM
coming to terms with Guessan for his return is a good sign
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 25, 2024, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 25, 2024, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on March 25, 2024, 11:11:17 AM
Interesting how this season lowered Tang on Louisville's list. He appeared to be most fans #1 until midseason.

This was a narrative driven solely by one blogger, who's rarely correct. He did the same damn thing with Dusty May, often putting him and Tang on the same lists. He didn't have Tang or May going to Michigan. I knew trilly was making up crap when he insisted that tang was leaving K-State for Louisville literally as Tang was moving his elderly parents from Florida to Kansas, in the dead ass of winter.

he's getting roasted hard.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 04, 2024, 04:11:35 PM
Uhhhh lets hope Arkansas fills quickly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: 'taterblast on April 04, 2024, 04:17:47 PM
a lot of Chris Beard noise for Arkansas
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 04:29:40 PM
I can't think of a better for Arky than Beard
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2024, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: CHONGS on April 04, 2024, 04:11:35 PM
Uhhhh lets hope Arkansas fills quickly

Why?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 04, 2024, 05:17:32 PM
Because I'm paranoid that Tang will leave. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 04, 2024, 06:20:54 PM
so who is on the short list

Brad, Beard, Huggy pt2?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 06:44:56 PM
Niko Medved
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2024, 06:55:38 PM
SMU -> USC -> Arkansas was not a coach poaching chain I would expect
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: passranch on April 04, 2024, 07:23:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 06:44:56 PM
Niko Medved

This is the play.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 04, 2024, 06:55:38 PM
SMU -> USC -> Arkansas was not a coach poaching chain I would expect

If you believe these kinds of things, it is was orchestrated by Musselman's sister who is married to a big SMU booster.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2024, 11:25:21 PM
Quote from: passranch on April 04, 2024, 07:23:46 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 06:44:56 PM
Niko Medved

This is the play.

Nah
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2024, 11:39:18 PM
 :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 12:11:37 AM
I always think it's gotta be annoying for a coach to deal with the K-State fan base since we freak out over unsubstantiated rumors like this all the time. Like, all the time.

But, maybe every fan base is like that. I don't roam around other teams' message boards.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 12:11:37 AM
I always think it's gotta be annoying for a coach to deal with the K-State fan base since we freak out over unsubstantiated rumors like this all the time. Like, all the time.

But, maybe every fan base is like that. I don't roam around other teams' message boards.

I can confirm there are melodramatic dumbass victims in every fanbase, if that helps.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 05, 2024, 06:24:31 AM
Kentucky and Louisville fans are always on my radar due to proximity and friendships. Canco. Same drama as taters.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 05, 2024, 06:55:51 AM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 12:11:37 AM
I always think it's gotta be annoying for a coach to deal with the K-State fan base since we freak out over unsubstantiated rumors like this all the time. Like, all the time.

But, maybe every fan base is like that. I don't roam around other teams' message boards.
I think that kind of stuff is pretty easy for a coach to ignore and evergreen in fan bases.

I feel like the only places where a fan base actually affects the job are the schools with multiple mega donors who all insist on having a say in how things are done cause they’re used to getting their way.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 05, 2024, 09:46:01 AM
Mercury guy saying Tang is one of two finalists for Arkansas job...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 05, 2024, 10:08:32 AM
:users:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 10:18:32 AM
I'll start paying attention if Beard comes out and says he is staying at Ole Miss
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 10:35:55 AM
This is legit calm af for tang possibly leaving.  How is anybody taking our reaction as a freak out?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 05, 2024, 11:03:52 AM
So, has he interviewed for the job or is it just fans wish list  that he is a finalist? I would imagine he would be a fan finalist for any open job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 11:19:48 AM
He's had contact with Arkansas in Arizona at the F4.  I don't think Arkansas fans prefer him though. Beard is their guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: stunted on April 05, 2024, 11:27:03 AM
if he's gone i hope dick gets all the blame.

even if doesn't get it, sounds like our time with tang is winding down anyways. fire him and move on?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: stunted on April 05, 2024, 11:27:03 AM
if he's gone i hope dick gets all the blame

oh for sure he will.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 05, 2024, 11:40:02 AM
My preferred scenarios, in order:

1. Tang stays, Dick leaves
2. Tang stays, Dick stays
3. Tang leaves, Dick leaves, we hire Beard
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 12:45:13 PM
#FireTang
#HireFrank
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 05, 2024, 11:40:02 AM
My preferred scenarios, in order:

1. Tang stays, Dick leaves
2. Tang stays, Dick stays
3. Tang leaves, Dick leaves, we hire Beard

I think Dick would be a chris beard kind of guy
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 12:55:43 PM
Ole Miss hung on to Beard. Fire up the coaching search thread.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 12:58:22 PM
 :blindfold:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 05, 2024, 01:09:57 PM
Arkansas will have a full roster to fill.  Should be fun for whatever coach they land (meaning a lot of work). 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 05, 2024, 01:11:04 PM
What is Underwood's buyout these days?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:19:42 PM
I want Kim English!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 01:22:08 PM
#gottlieb4ksu
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 01:22:08 PM
#gottlieb4ksu

lol nice one
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

Frank went to South Carolina, so, I guess there is precedent, but still....gross.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 01:32:16 PM
Not worried he leaves
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

JFC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 05, 2024, 01:35:28 PM
Exactly why I didn't renew. Trash board.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:36:19 PM
Way too emotionally tied to kids sports. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 05, 2024, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 12:11:37 AM
I always think it's gotta be annoying for a coach to deal with the K-State fan base since we freak out over unsubstantiated rumors like this all the time. Like, all the time.

But, maybe every fan base is like that. I don't roam around other teams' message boards.

Mine is
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 01:47:00 PM
Not being mentioned tells you what everyone thinks about TJ
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: j rake on April 05, 2024, 01:51:02 PM
hire dawn staley.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 01:56:36 PM
I've heard some rumblings, and they're not good ...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 02:16:18 PM
Quote from: j rake on April 05, 2024, 01:51:02 PM
hire dawn staley.
I'm on board
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 02:17:43 PM
She already makes more than Tang...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 05, 2024, 02:30:55 PM
Mo money (self explanatory), less problems (SEC style eligibility/compliance standards)

Tang doesn't owe us anything for hiring him from Baylor. He had offers before, he was just waiting for a good one.

That said, save for the Tomlin stuff Tang has everyone going for him at ol' KSU. Instant success, strong fanbase, consistently best basketball conference. The wildcard is how he feels about his bosses at each school, which can count for a lot (and was obviously the reason Frank bounced).
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
took the risk? come on man.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on April 05, 2024, 02:54:03 PM
Maybe he'll get weirded out when they do the "Wooo Pig Sooie" crap like Altman did?  :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2024, 02:54:29 PM
First time he's had leverage since the Linton stuff.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2024, 02:56:44 PM
This isn’t leverage. He’s leaving. Much like frank with all his crankiness and anger and weirdness was a perfect fit at kstate, tang is a perfect fit there. I’m assuming both parties know that. He’s gone.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
rumblings that the leverage play is not for more salary but nil money
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 05, 2024, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
rumblings that the leverage play is not for more salary but nil money

If that's true, that's great for us (assuming we can make it happen)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2024, 02:56:44 PM
This isn’t leverage. He’s leaving. Much like frank with all his crankiness and anger and weirdness was a perfect fit at kstate, tang is a perfect fit there. I’m assuming both parties know that. He’s gone.
i agree
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
took the risk? come on man.

You're right, 19 years an assistant. Shocked as anyone else to finally get him a HC job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Dr Rick Daris on April 05, 2024, 02:56:44 PM
This isn’t leverage. He’s leaving. Much like frank with all his crankiness and anger and weirdness was a perfect fit at kstate, tang is a perfect fit there. I’m assuming both parties know that. He’s gone.
Takeaway here is we hire perfect fits 2 out of 3 times because tang is also a perfect fit for here. (3 out of 4 if you count huggs)

:gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
took the risk? come on man.

You're right, 19 years an assistant. Shocked as anyone else to finally get him a HC job.
You’re basing your argument that his was a risky hire on the fact that he stayed at Baylor for 19 years.  He had opportunities in those years to take other jobs, it’s not as though ours was his first opportunity. What was the risk to KSU that you have identified? 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
took the risk? come on man.

You're right, 19 years an assistant. Shocked as anyone else to finally get him a HC job.
You’re basing your argument that his was a risky hire on the fact that he stayed at Baylor for 19 years.  He had opportunities in those years to take other jobs, it’s not as though ours was his first opportunity. What was the risk to KSU that you have identified?

having our heatbroke.

Dowling just tweeted Tang on stage in lavendar
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
I may just mute everyone but DY. Every other post is a God joke.

Anywho, my gut says he stays. Unless things are really bad, it seems against everything he's said to bounce after 2 years.

Where I'm at. Why bounce on the school that took the risk on you. I get the Frank comparisons some are trying to make but not after two years. But idk
took the risk? come on man.

You're right, 19 years an assistant. Shocked as anyone else to finally get him a HC job.
You’re basing your argument that his was a risky hire on the fact that he stayed at Baylor for 19 years.  He had opportunities in those years to take other jobs, it’s not as though ours was his first opportunity. What was the risk to KSU that you have identified?
I’ll suggest that his hiring was about as low risk as there is for good old KSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 05, 2024, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
rumblings that the leverage play is not for more salary but nil money


To get more fans to donate or to get a higher percentage of the NIL pie?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 05, 2024, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: BostonPancake on April 05, 2024, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
rumblings that the leverage play is not for more salary but nil money


To get more fans to donate or to get a higher percentage of the NIL pie?

Unless by "fans" you mean the big money donors, it would clearly be the latter. A casual fan (me) wouldn't assume their NIL commitment is going to do anything to sway a coach's decision.

Some of the NIL donations can be pledged for a specific sport, so I could easily imagine part of the discussion being whether the "general" donations should be split proportionally or whether a program with less pledged donations should get a disproportionate share of the general fund to make up for it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2024, 04:13:48 PM
well the NIL angle is suspect given that we are done with facilities upgrades for the near future and incoming $ is going to players
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 04:17:21 PM
Hearing we should be "ok"

Stay tuned
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 04:37:28 PM
Jon Rothstein tweeted just a little bit ago that Tang has told his staff that he accepted the Arkansas job. 


Edit: may be photoshop bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
Reported that his sister tweeted "It's a great day to be a Wildcat." Anybody follow her?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 04:55:27 PM
Will you guys just post these Tweets instead of rumors about Tweets?!?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 05, 2024, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 04:55:27 PM
Will you guys just post these Tweets instead of rumors about Tweets?!?

Rumors about tweets are our business brother.  And business is great
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 05, 2024, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
Reported that his sister tweeted "It's a great day to be a Wildcat." Anybody follow her?
https://twitter.com/kimptangdhan/status/1776361608836489709
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 05:06:15 PM
I, for one, don't frequent Musk's fascist garbage dump.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2024, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 04:37:28 PM
Jon Rothstein tweeted just a little bit ago that Tang has told his staff that he accepted the Arkansas job. 


Edit: may be photoshop bullshit.

It is fake. Rothstein hasn't posted about Tang after the one he and goodman and everyone else did that he was the top candidate.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 05, 2024, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
Reported that his sister tweeted "It's a great day to be a Wildcat." Anybody follow her?


That was hours ago before Beard dropped out.  Didn’t mean anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2024, 05:10:01 PM
It was before Beard dropped out and while everyone was dunking that Arky wasn't after Tang.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:16:27 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 05:06:15 PM
I, for one, don't frequent Musk's fascist garbage dump.

Man, I wish I had your restraint.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 05:36:27 PM
second buddy said he is hearing positive news

dunno
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Garbage message board
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2024, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: LickNeckey on April 05, 2024, 05:36:27 PM
second buddy said he is hearing positive news

dunno

How much do we trust your buddy?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 05:41:16 PM
Twitter is saying big dick Gene got an extension for Tang with more money
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/chelsdhan/status/1776370615932358851
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:08:04 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1776374737553535181
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 06:11:37 PM
Someone with a lot of money must think Jerome can win big here.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/chelsdhan/status/1776370615932358851
Like what are people saying???
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 05, 2024, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/chelsdhan/status/1776370615932358851
Like what are people saying???

There are some real shitbirds on Twitter. I’m not talking like Garth’s cringe. I mean emaw Caleb and Steve something just always ragging on tang and how we’ll be better off if he leaves or he’s an awful coach. They crap on Perry nonstop too. I blocked them, but they’re there. rough ridin' terrible shits.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 07:10:05 PM
Ladies and gentleman, we got him.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 07:11:18 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 01:32:16 PM
Not worried he leaves
:gocho:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Ever been to Arkansas ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Houstoncat93 on April 05, 2024, 07:16:27 PM
Based on cryptic gif posted by KSU_Fan and Manbeck sounds like an extension has been agreed too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 07:18:28 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Houstoncat93 on April 05, 2024, 07:16:27 PM
Based on cryptic gif posted by KSU_Fan and Manbeck sounds like an extension has been agreed too.

I'm extended right now
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
Guys, I don’t know how I can can function as a fan in a word where 100% of our players and coaches are in free agency every offseason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 05, 2024, 07:50:37 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Houstoncat93 on April 05, 2024, 07:16:27 PM
Based on cryptic gif posted by KSU_Fan and Manbeck sounds like an extension has been agreed too.

I'm extended right now
Yep, everyone gets an extension from Gene on this one.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
Guys, I don’t know how I can can function as a fan in a word where 100% of our players and coaches are in free agency every offseason.

Smoke your cigars and enjoy the show
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
Guys, I don’t know how I can can function as a fan in a word where 100% of our players and coaches are in free agency every offseason.

Have you considered crushing and snorting percocet?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 08:04:08 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
Guys, I don’t know how I can can function as a fan in a word where 100% of our players and coaches are in free agency every offseason.

Have you considered crushing and snorting percocet?
That is really bad for your sinuses.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 05, 2024, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 08:04:08 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
Guys, I don’t know how I can can function as a fan in a word where 100% of our players and coaches are in free agency every offseason.

Have you considered crushing and snorting percocet?
That is really bad for your sinuses.

Perhaps Ambien might be more your speed
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 05, 2024, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2024, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/chelsdhan/status/1776370615932358851
Like what are people saying???

There are some real shitbirds on Twitter. I’m not talking like Garth’s cringe. I mean emaw Caleb and Steve something just always ragging on tang and how we’ll be better off if he leaves or he’s an awful coach. They crap on Perry nonstop too. I blocked them, but they’re there. rough ridin' terrible shits.


Every fan base has shitty people.  Ours are no shittier than the rest.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Ever been to Arkansas ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Help me out with your point here?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Ever been to Arkansas ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Help me out with your point here?
They are way more racist/bigoted/non accepting than we are.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: doom on April 05, 2024, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/chelsdhan/status/1776370615932358851
Like what are people saying???

There are some real shitbirds on Twitter. I’m not talking like Garth’s cringe. I mean emaw Caleb and Steve something just always ragging on tang and how we’ll be better off if he leaves or he’s an awful coach. They crap on Perry nonstop too. I blocked them, but they’re there. rough ridin' terrible shits.

People were getting really personal. Called him a snake oil salesman, a fraud, money hungry,  a scumbag, a liar. That bitch Caleb deleted all his crap taking. kstateman14 and topcat still have their meltdowns up.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Ever been to Arkansas ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Help me out with your point here?
They are way more racist/bigoted/non accepting than we are.

I hope that wasn't his point because how many racists and bigots there are in Arkansas has literally nothing to do with the current readability of kstateonline. Even if I were making some point about K-State fans being too bigoted, I wasn't and wouldn't, Arkansas fans being more bigoted is the worst rationalization in the history of the internet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 11:55:38 PM
Boggy bottom boys on Reddit. There was more of this joined by KU fans agreeing they had such a respectful rivalry as they have such great histories, and yes we're talking Iowa State.
Quote
fcocyclone
10 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
I legitimately think you all will be better off. He's a clown.
Quote
level 4
fcocyclone
9 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
So quick? I thought he was fake as eff even before this year. This year just confirmed it further.

I generally pull for the old big 8 teams. I was sincere in saying I think you guys will be better off without him.
Quote
Fixner_Blount
8 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
Tang caused plenty of toxicity towards ISU and he never spoke out about it. I’d have a lot more respect for him now if he came out and said “my bad, I thought I something that I actually didn’t.”

But he didn’t, and instead the KState Twitter crowd ran with a bunch of BS about throwing things at the bench and being racist. It amazes me how many K State fans are being intentionally arrogant of that whole situation.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNation on April 06, 2024, 12:49:11 AM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 11:55:38 PM
Boggy bottom boys on Reddit. There was more of this joined by KU fans agreeing they had such a respectful rivalry as they have such great histories, and yes we're talking Iowa State.
Quote
fcocyclone
10 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
I legitimately think you all will be better off. He's a clown.
Quote
level 4
fcocyclone
9 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
So quick? I thought he was fake as eff even before this year. This year just confirmed it further.

I generally pull for the old big 8 teams. I was sincere in saying I think you guys will be better off without him.
Quote
Fixner_Blount
8 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
Tang caused plenty of toxicity towards ISU and he never spoke out about it. I’d have a lot more respect for him now if he came out and said “my bad, I thought I something that I actually didn’t.”

But he didn’t, and instead the KState Twitter crowd ran with a bunch of BS about throwing things at the bench and being racist. It amazes me how many K State fans are being intentionally arrogant of that whole situation.
and we will continue to be arrogant of the situation
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 06, 2024, 08:17:11 AM
Losing to Iowa State in anything is borderline a fireable offense.

JT and CK should both be on PIP’s right now just for losing to Flood Aggie.


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 06, 2024, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

I don't think so. I think he would rather be here, he just wants to level the field a bit, more of the NIL pie, more autonomy. Plus Arky would be a complete reset with an equally or even far less forgiving and welcoming fanbase. He'd have almost 13 roster spots to fill I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 06, 2024, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: doom on April 06, 2024, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

I don't think so. I think he would rather be here, he just wants to level the field a bit, more of the NIL pie, more autonomy. Plus Arky would be a complete reset with an equally or even far less forgiving and welcoming fanbase. He'd have almost 13 roster spots to fill I think.
I cannot imagine voluntarily moving to Arkansas for any reason.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 06, 2024, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2024, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
the kso thread is unhinged. They're actively talking themselves into why Tang is an awful person.

yeah, I dipped out, had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable and some clearly bigoted people.
Ever been to Arkansas ?


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Help me out with your point here?
They are way more racist/bigoted/non accepting than we are.

I hope that wasn't his point because how many racists and bigots there are in Arkansas has literally nothing to do with the current readability of kstateonline. Even if I were making some point about K-State fans being too bigoted, I wasn't and wouldn't, Arkansas fans being more bigoted is the worst rationalization in the history of the internet.
Have you ever been to Arkansas?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 06, 2024, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

Wild they continually get turned down in multiple sports
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2024, 11:42:53 AM
It’s gotta be the Wooo Pig Sooie they make them do at the presser.

It’s kinda a genius move by ark, though. If you can get someone to compromise themselves enough to scream that crap on cam, you got them.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 06, 2024, 11:51:32 AM
wife related a story of visiting her in-law uncles gun shop in Arkansas and one customer when asked what he'd been doing said "shooting cans, Africans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans."
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 06, 2024, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 06, 2024, 11:42:53 AM
It’s gotta be the Wooo Pig Sooie they make them do at the presser.

It’s kinda a genius move by ark, though. If you can get someone to compromise themselves enough to scream that crap on cam, you got them.

Really Glad he stayed, but Woo Tang is content gold.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2024, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: doom on April 06, 2024, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 06, 2024, 11:42:53 AM
It’s gotta be the Wooo Pig Sooie they make them do at the presser.

It’s kinda a genius move by ark, though. If you can get someone to compromise themselves enough to scream that crap on cam, you got them.

Really Glad he stayed, but Woo Tang is content gold.

That’s rough ridin' great.

I would buy an “Ain’t nothin to eff with!” shirt for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 06, 2024, 02:07:53 PM
The NIL can be named c.r.e.a.m.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 06, 2024, 02:32:35 PM
Oh man, what if Tang reads these incredible missed opportunities and reconsiders?   :ohno:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 11:55:38 PM
Boggy bottom boys on Reddit. There was more of this joined by KU fans agreeing they had such a respectful rivalry as they have such great histories, and yes we're talking Iowa State.
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fcocyclone
10 hr. ago
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I legitimately think you all will be better off. He's a clown.
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level 4
fcocyclone
9 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
So quick? I thought he was fake as eff even before this year. This year just confirmed it further.

I generally pull for the old big 8 teams. I was sincere in saying I think you guys will be better off without him.
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Fixner_Blount
8 hr. ago
 Iowa State Cyclones
Tang caused plenty of toxicity towards ISU and he never spoke out about it. I’d have a lot more respect for him now if he came out and said “my bad, I thought I something that I actually didn’t.”

But he didn’t, and instead the KState Twitter crowd ran with a bunch of BS about throwing things at the bench and being racist. It amazes me how many K State fans are being intentionally arrogant of that whole situation.
foocyclone sounds really racist
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

A couple of things.
1. The 3MAW guys said he was facing a lot of internal pressure, presumably from friends and family to stay.
2. Arkansas has all those advantages, it can't be denied, they play in a 20,000 seat arena for goodness sakes, but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 06, 2024, 05:58:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.
WTF? Quite the 180 from yesterdays post


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 06:50:34 PM
How has Painter been at Purdue for as long as he has? No one tries to hire him away just because it's his alma mater? He's won the Big Ten 4 of the past 8 years and is only getting paid $3.67 million. Surely somewhere like Kentucky or UCLA could lure him away.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

A couple of things.
1. The 3MAW guys said he was facing a lot of internal pressure, presumably from friends and family to stay.
2. Arkansas has all those advantages, it can't be denied, they play in a 20,000 seat arena for goodness sakes, but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.

Which is kinda why I was like why. He left for USC. Which I get is location wise undeniably better but from a program and history is just absolute meh. His move from Arkansas to USC is like Frank to the other USC. It has little to do with history and a lot with admin. I get Linton dicked over Tang but from all I see the mustang is a great guy to work for.

To me all Arky has is it's 40 minutes of hell past and that's it. Your second point assessment is the correct take on trying to go to Arkansas to be bball coach. It ain't worth it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2024, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 06:50:34 PM
How has Painter been at Purdue for as long as he has? No one tries to hire him away just because it's his alma mater? He's won the Big Ten 4 of the past 8 years and is only getting paid $3.67 million. Surely somewhere like Kentucky or UCLA could lure him away.

if i remember correctly, he about left 10 years ago but decided to stay. He's had some tourney issues which prob scare some.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 07:37:56 PM
I think Tang will at some point get another job, and then realize how much he loved being at a school where the fan base embraces basically anything you ask (not chanting F KU, not court storming, etc). Then he'll be really sad that he's just another coach at *insert name of school here* and want to go back somewhere like K-State, even if it means taking a pay cut.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 06, 2024, 07:43:06 PM
He's 58 in October. If he leaves his new gig will be his last.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 06, 2024, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 07:37:56 PM
I think Tang will at some point get another job, and then realize how much he loved being at a school where the fan base embraces basically anything you ask (not chanting F KU, not court storming, etc). Then he'll be really sad that he's just another coach at *insert name of school here* and want to go back somewhere like K-State, even if it means taking a pay cut.

The Beasley Effect
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 06, 2024, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2024, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 06:50:34 PM
How has Painter been at Purdue for as long as he has? No one tries to hire him away just because it's his alma mater? He's won the Big Ten 4 of the past 8 years and is only getting paid $3.67 million. Surely somewhere like Kentucky or UCLA could lure him away.

if i remember correctly, he about left 10 years ago but decided to stay. He's had some tourney issues which prob scare some.
Painter leveraged the hell out of Mizzou before they hired Haith
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2024, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 06, 2024, 05:58:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.
WTF? Quite the 180 from yesterdays post


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

A couple of things.
1. The 3MAW guys said he was facing a lot of internal pressure, presumably from friends and family to stay.
2. Arkansas has all those advantages, it can't be denied, they play in a 20,000 seat arena for goodness sakes, but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.

Which is kinda why I was like why. He left for USC. Which I get is location wise undeniably better but from a program and history is just absolute meh. His move from Arkansas to USC is like Frank to the other USC. It has little to do with history and a lot with admin. I get Linton dicked over Tang but from all I see the mustang is a great guy to work for.

To me all Arky has is it's 40 minutes of hell past and that's it. Your second point assessment is the correct take on trying to go to Arkansas to be bball coach. It ain't worth it

Eye on College Basketball guys essentially said they left to live in LA instead of Fayetteville. He lived in San Diego for a while growing up and he went back to college there. His wife worked in LA for quite a while when she worked for Fox Sports Net.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 07, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: Skipper44 on April 06, 2024, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2024, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 06:50:34 PM
How has Painter been at Purdue for as long as he has? No one tries to hire him away just because it's his alma mater? He's won the Big Ten 4 of the past 8 years and is only getting paid $3.67 million. Surely somewhere like Kentucky or UCLA could lure him away.

if i remember correctly, he about left 10 years ago but decided to stay. He's had some tourney issues which prob scare some.
Painter leveraged the hell out of Mizzou before they hired Haith

He was also a finalist for Louisville when they hired Payne.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 07, 2024, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 07, 2024, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on April 06, 2024, 05:58:55 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 06, 2024, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 06, 2024, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 05, 2024, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 05, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: CNS on April 05, 2024, 01:26:24 PM
I don't believe the Arkansas stuff.  That sounds super gross to me. 

Right? Like why

They have more of every conceivable measurable advantage to make a job easier than we do, literally every single one, and not by a little either.

Crazy he turned that down then

but it's Arkansas, it's a weird and frankly disgusting place. Muss left them for a situation that's appreciably worse, but it's not in Arkansas so there's that.
WTF? Quite the 180 from yesterdays post


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 07, 2024, 09:33:09 PM
Now Calipari to Arkansas?  Did not see that coming.  Who is Kentucky gonna hire?  I don’t think there is a name big enough for them.  I’d say Nate Oates, but he just extended at Bama.

I hate coaching carousels…..
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 07, 2024, 09:46:30 PM
Man, a Kentucky coaching search sounds like a blast. If Tang was on their radar, I wonder if him turning down Arkansas makes him seem more or less available.

Huggins at Kentucky would be the most non-EMAW related fun I've had in college basketball in a long time. Maybe ever.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 07, 2024, 09:52:27 PM
I am of course very biased and thinking with my heart, but I can’t see Tang being on their radar with only two years of head coaching experience.  If he had gone to the elite 8 again, then probably, but I think the sting of Billy Gillispie still lingers.

The only coaches that would satisfy those nut jobs are Jay Wright and Bill Self and that isn’t happening.  Maybe Billy Donovan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2024, 09:55:41 PM
if tj doesn’t get a strong look from kentucky, it’s only because matt campbell already accepted the position
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 07, 2024, 10:14:14 PM
Is this for real? Cal is leaving?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 07, 2024, 10:27:11 PM
 https://x.com/petethamel/status/1777174492034601010?s=46&t=Pgb1xYMbcPz0KiE0MJG8ng (https://x.com/petethamel/status/1777174492034601010?s=46&t=Pgb1xYMbcPz0KiE0MJG8ng)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BostonPancake on April 07, 2024, 10:28:15 PM
Dan Hurley….that has to be at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 07, 2024, 10:28:28 PM
Coach Cal as a backup to Tang. Look at us you guys.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2024, 10:33:19 PM
Man props to Tang's agent
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2024, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 07, 2024, 10:14:14 PM
Is this for real? Cal is leaving?

His dead lifeless eyes when he has to do the woo pig at his presser this week will be delicious
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2024, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: BostonPancake on April 07, 2024, 10:28:15 PM
Dan Hurley….that has to be at the top of the list.

idk why he would want to deal with BBN. He has it made right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 08, 2024, 01:05:09 AM
It's not Tang to Kentucky. It's Drew to Kentucky, and then Tang back home to Baylor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 08, 2024, 05:09:20 AM
I'm in Lexington for business, will partake in local radio between appointments.  :driving:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 05:24:03 AM
Should be some solid meltdown takes here today:

https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 08, 2024, 06:20:10 AM
Amazing. It'll be fun to see him get bounced in the first two rounds from Arky. Will miss beating Cal coached Kentucky teams
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2024, 06:54:13 AM
I am with clams. TJ will have the tightest Kentucky shirts.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 06:58:12 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 05:24:03 AM
Should be some solid meltdown takes here today:

https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/ (https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/)
One of the hosts just proclaimed "Tang is dying to get out of KState and I can't believe he didn't take the Arkansas job."


Alrighty then.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2024, 07:27:18 AM
I wonder if Kentucky would dare to go after Bill Self?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2024, 07:28:29 AM
Jay Wright makes the most sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2024, 07:38:17 AM
Kentucky Reddit says Billy Donovan.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 08, 2024, 07:27:18 AM
I wonder if Kentucky would dare to go after Bill Self?

That would make no sense. I'm seeing Hurley, Oats, Donovan, Drew.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bucket on April 08, 2024, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 08, 2024, 07:27:18 AM
I wonder if Kentucky would dare to go after Bill Self?

That would make no sense. I'm seeing Hurley, Oats, Donovan, Drew.

Personally, I don't know why Bill would want to make a move at his age but I would imagine Kentucky will need to cast a wide net.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 08:24:50 AM
Kentucky is going to be wrecked with all the incoming guys following Cal. Whoever they hire will need to bring a roster.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:33:29 AM
Quote from: bucket on April 08, 2024, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 08, 2024, 07:27:18 AM
I wonder if Kentucky would dare to go after Bill Self?

That would make no sense. I'm seeing Hurley, Oats, Donovan, Drew.

Personally, I don't know why Bill would want to make a move at his age but I would imagine Kentucky will need to cast a wide net.

Bill is beloved in Lawrence. Cal was despised in Lexington. Bill gets close to $10MM/year already at KU. They'll build a statue of him next to Phog Allen. Probably will name something after him, although it will be hard to supplant Allen or Naismith. He's got security, adoration, and legacy already--all things that are not conducive to the Kentucky job. They eat their own, there. I think he'll also retire soon-ish. He's already said he doesn't want to be one of those coaches who does the job until they die. He wants to enjoy retirement, and given recent health concerns, I could see his timeline towards that accelerating.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2024, 08:40:04 AM
I have seen Drew on Reddit a bunch. Other than winning, Drew seems like the exact opposite of a Kentucky coach to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 08, 2024, 08:40:04 AM
I have seen Drew on Reddit a bunch. Other than winning, Drew seems like the exact opposite of a Kentucky coach to me.

Lots of Evangelicals there. The question is: if Drew goes to UK, does Tang go to Baylor?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 08, 2024, 09:18:36 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 08, 2024, 08:40:04 AM
I have seen Drew on Reddit a bunch. Other than winning, Drew seems like the exact opposite of a Kentucky coach to me.

Lots of Evangelicals there. The question is: if Drew goes to UK, does Tang go to Baylor?

I would imagine the answer to that question is 100%, give or take 0%.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2024, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 06:58:12 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 05:24:03 AM
Should be some solid meltdown takes here today:

https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/ (https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/)
One of the hosts just proclaimed "Tang is dying to get out of KState and I can't believe he didn't take the Arkansas job."


Alrighty then.

People talk out of their ass, a lot
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2024, 09:30:52 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 08:24:50 AM
Kentucky is going to be wrecked with all the incoming guys following Cal. Whoever they hire will need to bring a roster.

They can build in the portal, which is what they should have been doing in the first place. If Tang can get K-State in the sweet 16 with two high school recruits, neither of which played, Kentucky should be fine, if they hire a good coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Guessing Nate Oats takes the job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: OB_Won on April 08, 2024, 09:42:11 AM
Quote from: Stupid Fitz on April 08, 2024, 09:18:36 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 08, 2024, 08:40:04 AM
I have seen Drew on Reddit a bunch. Other than winning, Drew seems like the exact opposite of a Kentucky coach to me.

Lots of Evangelicals there. The question is: if Drew goes to UK, does Tang go to Baylor?

I would imagine the answer to that question is 100%, give or take 0%.
I wonder if Drew even wants Kentucky? He already won a title, and I wonder if he’s content in a small town and conservative campus. I hope he uses it for a raise, and finishes out at Baylor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on April 08, 2024, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 06:58:12 AM
Quote from: IPA4Me on April 08, 2024, 05:24:03 AM
Should be some solid meltdown takes here today:

https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/ (https://www.iheart.com/live/espn-680-louisville-6630/)
One of the hosts just proclaimed "Tang is dying to get out of KState and I can't believe he didn't take the Arkansas job."


Alrighty then.

People talk out of their ass, a lot
Completely agree. I started ignoring the Louisville homers at that point.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Guessing Nate Oats takes the job.

If I were a Kentucky fan that's who I would want. Him or Scott Drew.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 08, 2024, 10:36:38 AM
buddy told me Oates buyout was 18 million

probably doesn't dissuade UK if that is their guy but...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2024, 11:07:34 AM
What's Tang's buyout on his new contract?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 08, 2024, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2024, 11:07:34 AM
What's Tang's buyout on his new contract?

The 3maw episode that came out yesterday said the details of the new contract wont come with an official announcement from the athletic department but that eventually the information will be available.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 08, 2024, 12:27:19 PM
With the transfer portal, and just how college basketball rosters are constructed in general, I don't understand how different UK could be from a job at which a coach has achieved a Final 4 before. Outside of salary. If you can win a national championship at Baylor (for instance) what would UK have to offer? Just seems like more boosters to piss off.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2024, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Guessing Nate Oats takes the job.

If I were a Kentucky fan that's who I would want. Him or Scott Drew.
If I were a Kentucky fan I’d want the very best coach in the country. Who is the very best coach? I don’t know.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2024, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Stevesie60 on April 08, 2024, 12:27:19 PM
With the transfer portal, and just how college basketball rosters are constructed in general, I don't understand how different UK could be from a job at which a coach has achieved a Final 4 before. Outside of salary. If you can win a national championship at Baylor (for instance) what would UK have to offer? Just seems like more boosters to piss off.
If I were a coach, I’d want two things. A guarantee to have the largest NIL in the country and the largest salary package (annual * guaranteed years) in the country.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 08, 2024, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 08, 2024, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Guessing Nate Oats takes the job.

If I were a Kentucky fan that's who I would want. Him or Scott Drew.
If I were a Kentucky fan I’d want the very best coach in the country. Who is the very best coach? I don’t know.

Here's my rankings of who would achieve the most at Kentucky over the next 10 years (NC's, F4's, conference titles, etc.):

1. Dan Hurley
2. Jerome Tang
3. Mark Few
4. Jon Scheyer
5. Nate Oates
6. Scott Drew
7. Chris Beard
8. Bill Self
9. Sean Miller
10. Matt Painter

Any mistakes?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 12:41:50 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 08, 2024, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 09:31:33 AM
Guessing Nate Oats takes the job.

If I were a Kentucky fan that's who I would want. Him or Scott Drew.
If I were a Kentucky fan I’d want the very best coach in the country. Who is the very best coach? I don’t know.

I think Hurley is probably the best given that he's in position to win back to back nattys tonight.  Oats assembled a final four team that probably played UCONN the toughest in the tourney for 35 minutes. Drew won a title at Baylor and seems to still be recruiting at a really high level in the portal era.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Hurley is the best coach in college basketball and it's not close.  I don't know if UK can get him, but you absolutely start there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 08, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Hurley is the best coach in college basketball and it's not close.  I don't know if UK can get him, but you absolutely start there.
Is he better than peak Jay Wright?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 08, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Hurley is the best coach in college basketball and it's not close.  I don't know if UK can get him, but you absolutely start there.
Is he better than peak Jay Wright?

I would say so but Jay Wright is a heckuva silver medal if UK can get him. 

Hurley's two year NCAA tournament run is one of the most impressive accomplishments in the modern era of college basketball.  In a giant, single-elimination tournament that is known for it's randomness, UConn has blown out everyone.  Even if you say the early rounds are against garbage, UConn is outscoring opponents by over 20 in the S16 and beyond the past two seasons.  It's unreal.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2024, 02:12:48 PM
Like old Coach K good
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 08, 2024, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 08, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Hurley is the best coach in college basketball and it's not close.  I don't know if UK can get him, but you absolutely start there.
Is he better than peak Jay Wright?

I would say so but Jay Wright is a heckuva silver medal if UK can get him. 

Hurley's two year NCAA tournament run is one of the most impressive accomplishments in the modern era of college basketball.  In a giant, single-elimination tournament that is known for it's randomness, UConn has blown out everyone.  Even if you say the early rounds are against garbage, UConn is outscoring opponents by over 20 in the S16 and beyond the past two seasons.  It's unreal.

I don't think what Hurley's done tops Wright's last 9 seasons. Wright won the Big East 7 out of those 9 years, and the years he finished second he won an NCAA title and got a Final Four. Hurley's had two absolutely ridiculous tourney runs, but I'm not sure if that's bad luck early in last season and his prior seasons or what. I'd say it's debatable at least.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 03:12:05 PM
I'd be shocked if Jay Wright left Nova to retire and then brought himself out of retirement to put himself into one of the biggest fish bowls in CBB.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 08, 2024, 03:20:55 PM
Some people just don’t know what to do with themselves in retirement. I could see it from that perspective.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: michigancat on April 08, 2024, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 08, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 08, 2024, 12:51:49 PM
Hurley is the best coach in college basketball and it's not close.  I don't know if UK can get him, but you absolutely start there.
Is he better than peak Jay Wright?

I would say so but Jay Wright is a heckuva silver medal if UK can get him. 

Hurley's two year NCAA tournament run is one of the most impressive accomplishments in the modern era of college basketball.  In a giant, single-elimination tournament that is known for it's randomness, UConn has blown out everyone.  Even if you say the early rounds are against garbage, UConn is outscoring opponents by over 20 in the S16 and beyond the past two seasons.  It's unreal.

I don't think what Hurley's done tops Wright's last 9 seasons. Wright won the Big East 7 out of those 9 years, and the years he finished second he won an NCAA title and got a Final Four. Hurley's had two absolutely ridiculous tourney runs, but I'm not sure if that's bad luck early in last season and his prior seasons or what. I'd say it's debatable at least.

Part of the reason I like Hurley is that he's doing it with NIL and the transfer portal.  I feel like several former HOF caliber coaches didn't want to adjust to the changes and some current ones are having trouble adjusting, while Hurley is consistently kicking ass.  Wright certainly has a longevity/consistency edge.

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2024, 04:47:54 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 08, 2024, 03:20:55 PM
Some people just don’t know what to do with themselves in retirement. I could see it from that perspective.

thought he was enjoying the tv gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2024, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 08, 2024, 03:20:55 PM
Some people just don’t know what to do with themselves in retirement. I could see it from that perspective.

thought he was enjoying the tv gig.

Once you hit the desk with Chuck, you don't want to go back.  That looks like a great retirement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2024, 06:10:41 PM
Did Arkansas just get left at the alter even before the woo pig soooie?

https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/1777470293818147283?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2024, 06:25:48 PM
Once the reality of being amongst them materializes you will do just about anything to avoid it
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: LickNeckey on April 08, 2024, 06:38:49 PM
what a ride for pig aggie
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2024, 07:13:21 PM
That crowd is used to some balltazing. Crosspost.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 08, 2024, 07:59:16 PM
Cal's too busy walking dogs to be bothered
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 10:40:16 PM
who does arkansas really think they are, anyway?  let them rehire mike anderson and return to the decade of dozing. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2024, 11:07:50 PM
Oats turned them down. Drew may have a tough decision to make.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2024, 06:07:32 AM
drew won’t leave baylor anymore than self would leave kansas, and we know that isn’t happening.

arkansas is in a tough position and will probably need to adjust their expectations accordingly
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 06:19:53 AM
I think he will ultimately end up at Ark
Title: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 09, 2024, 07:39:30 AM
Calipari to Arkansas is being reported as a done deal by everyone.

CBS and others allege that Drew is on the short list for Kentucky. If he went, I wonder if Tang would want the Baylor job. My guess is that he would and that the interest would be mutual.

I kinda agree with clams that Drew is probably very happy at Baylor, having built them from nothing. BUT, what I fear is a situation where Drew agrees to leave it in the capable hands of his long time co-builder and friend Jerome Tang.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 07:44:32 AM
They might be interested in the Tech coach too

Among others
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.



Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:42:18 AM
Who is the early 2000's Bill Self of our current landscape?  He whipped ass for 3 years at ORU then whipped ass for 3 more years at Illinois. Has to be a mid 40's super star or two out there.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 09, 2024, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:42:18 AM
Who is the early 2000's Bill Self of our current landscape?  He whipped ass for 3 years at ORU then whipped ass for 3 more years at Illinois. Has to be a mid 40's super star or two out there.

are you trying to get someone to say Brad Underwood so you don't have to?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2024, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:42:18 AM
Who is the early 2000's Bill Self of our current landscape?  He whipped ass for 3 years at ORU then whipped ass for 3 more years at Illinois. Has to be a mid 40's super star or two out there.

A lot of them flamed out when they got bigger jobs. Shaka at TX, like the last 3 guys that went to Indiana, etc. Maybe the guy that just went to Michigan if he can have some success there?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 09, 2024, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.

Yeah, I get $$$ but the dude has enough of that and probably enjoys his position where he's at. Kentucky would have just insane expectations and that seems like a lot of stress that late in your career.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:54:00 AM
Otz isn't on the self trajectory but he might be the closest thing to it at the moment besides Oats who is apparently happy to stay at Bama.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 09, 2024, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:54:00 AM
Otz isn't on the self trajectory but he might be the closest thing to it at the moment besides Oats who is apparently happy to stay at Bama.

I think this also speaks to the new NIL landscape. If you got a good thing going why bail for place that is going to have an insufferable fanbase. You have to not only have the trajectory but the ego to take over a place like that. Obviously Kentucky is a helluva job. But I feel like you got to have the right personality to want it too. Oats and Otz can be worshipped by their respective fanbases for what they are doing, and get a raise out of it too.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on April 09, 2024, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program lands in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU has had a lot of players make it to the NBA.  If the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 11:37:38 AM


Quote from: deputy dawg on April 09, 2024, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 10:40:10 AM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2024, 12:05:13 PM
I think it will be less. It always has been and always will be coaches first. I think "pedigree" will fall and size of alumni base will rise. I don't want to pick on ku specifically (and K-State is in the same spot without the benefit of "pedigree") but I have no idea how they expect to keep up nil money with schools that have 2-3 times the enrollment and alumni. Maybe they can get by focusing on basketball while those big schools focus on football, but the numbers just don't work out for them. Kentucky and Duke may hold on because they have a national following.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2024, 12:09:36 PM
Like, we've seen this model in the MLB, sure a small market team can win sometimes but that's the exception.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 09, 2024, 12:11:50 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

I think the big money doners that were paying the under the counter money to players probably have a little sticker shock, now that NIL is increasing exponentially, compared to what they used to pay for players
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 09, 2024, 12:22:51 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program lands in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU has had a lot of players make it to the NBA.  If the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.
I was interested to note that Hurley wasted zero time mentioning his ability to get guys to the NBA during on court interview immediately following the game last night.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 12:24:02 PM
The mock drafts have his entire starting lineup getting drafted
Title: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2024, 12:54:31 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program lands in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU has had a lot of players make it to the NBA.  If the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.
I was interested to note that Hurley wasted zero time mentioning his ability to get guys to the NBA during on court interview immediately following the game last night.
he didn’t say that, he said that it all starts with recruiting nba level talent.  the message was meant directly for his NIL contributors.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 09, 2024, 12:59:54 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 01:01:50 PM
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Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.

This is why I think it might be in Hurleys best interest to jump to UK now.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 09, 2024, 01:08:45 PM
NIL is all that matters in getting players. If you pay the most, you will have a great team. Then you can afford to have a painful dork as a coach as long as he is good at teaching X and O.  Your school can be located in a crap hole and you’ll be just fine.

Put another way, great programs are purchased.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2024, 04:57:04 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.
that tv money that you’re talking about is already spoken for elsewhere.  so for your scenario to play out, something will have to give.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 09, 2024, 06:16:28 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.
that tv money that you’re talking about is already spoken for elsewhere.  so for your scenario to play out, something will have to give.
Like leaving the NCAA or changing the NCAA’s required number of sports.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 06:27:58 PM
Might be time to warm this thing up again, looks like Kentucky has zeroed in on Scott Drew
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 09, 2024, 06:28:19 PM
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Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.
that tv money that you’re talking about is already spoken for elsewhere.  so for your scenario to play out, something will have to give.
Like leaving the NCAA or changing the NCAA’s required number of sports.
They don't need to leave the NCAA. They already field more than the minimum number of sports and they will cut some of those to maximize what they are able to pay players.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: kstater on April 09, 2024, 09:06:17 PM
Wouldn't Beard be a better fit for Kentucky than Drew?

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Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2024, 09:06:58 PM
Both got obscure Texas schools to the natty, only one of them won it.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 09, 2024, 09:20:23 PM
But only one beat his lady (allegedly). That seems like a Kentucky thing.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 09, 2024, 09:36:02 PM
Drew would be stupid to take that job.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
Baylor will match. He stays at Baylor.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2024, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 10, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
Baylor will match. He stays at Baylor.

 :pray:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2024, 08:15:48 AM
Yeah, no way Baylor lets themselves get outbid.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 10, 2024, 08:24:35 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 10, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
Baylor will match. He stays at Baylor.

Baylor can't possibly match, but I don't think they have to. I'd say, here's how much we can increase per year, how much goes to you, how much to staff, how much to nil?

If he stays, he'll have a shot at another title or at least making another final four in the next 5 years, they're renaming buildings and streets after him, he gets a statue and the Drew name is cemented in history. If he goes, he has some cash and could possibly destroy his legacy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2024, 08:36:55 AM
What would Jesus do?

Prolly secure that bag.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2024, 08:58:55 AM
Do people actually care about having streets and buildings named after them? Gross
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2024, 09:00:51 AM
Being the victim of hero worship is like my worst nightmare
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 10, 2024, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2024, 08:36:55 AM
What would Jesus do?

Prolly secure that bag.
Pay to Caesar what is Caesar’s, ima get mine.

-JC
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Justwin on April 10, 2024, 09:08:26 AM
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Quote from: WildcatNkilt on April 09, 2024, 09:25:29 AM
Seems weird to build up a program to be a perennial top 20 team, win a Natty, and bail for another program.  How often does that happen?  I don't think very often which is why I don't see Drew leaving Baylor.  Seems like he has a good thing going and he can be there as long as he wants with limited pressure from fans/AD/UP.
This is true but Baylor is arguably the "lowest profile" school to win a championship in recent memory. Villanova is probably the closest comparison?

Not sure school's profile matters anymore if you have NIL support + fan/AD/UP support.  I think this is why we have seen some hall of fame coaches retire in the last couple years.  I don't think Kentucky/KU/UCLA/Duke/Michigan State/North Carolina names will continue to hold the weight they used to.  The "name" is no longer needed to bring in great players and contend for titles.  The last two years represent the new NIL landscape, and I don't think many of us would have predicted not a single Blue Blood (UCONN is now BB though) making the FF. 

2024 FF Teams:   
Bama, Purdue, NC State, and UCONN

2023 FF Teams:
SDST, Miami, FIU, and UCONN

I think long term, NIL support will be more closely related to profile. Higher profile/blue bloods will win in the NIL/Portal era.
:nono:
NIL money will be king, program pedigree will be down the list of priorities for top recruits.  What WILL be a deciding factor is the number of players the program that land in the NBA.  McDonalds All-Americans don't go to Lawrentucky because of it's atmosphere or tradition, they go to KU because KU have a lot of players that make it to the NBA.  When the number of players KU puts in the NBA declines, so will recruiting.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, I just expect that in the long term NIL money and program pedigree will be more closely related than they might be now.

The turning point will be when schools are able to pay their players directly. Schools outside of the Big 10 and SEC can keep up with NIL, but they can't keep up with tv money.
that tv money that you’re talking about is already spoken for elsewhere.  so for your scenario to play out, something will have to give.

I think coaching salaries are going to give.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 09:22:11 AM
Not sure what 'clams means that the money is spoken for elsewhere. Aren't schools just going to start making less investment in facilities?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 10, 2024, 09:38:18 AM
Quote from: star seed 7 on April 10, 2024, 08:58:55 AM
Do people actually care about having streets and buildings named after them? Gross

Seems like.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2024, 09:42:10 AM
Spracs Pavilion has a nice ring to it ...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 10, 2024, 10:16:27 AM
 :nono:
Quote from: Spracne on April 10, 2024, 09:42:10 AM
Spracs Pavilion has a nice ring to it ...

Spracademy of Farts and Sciences.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2024, 10:30:00 AM
Would take.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Havs on April 10, 2024, 10:37:26 AM
Apparently he's on a plane to Lexington, whatever that means.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
It means TTU better fire up the coaching search thread cause they are about to lose their coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 10, 2024, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
It means TTU better fire up the coaching search thread cause they are about to lose their coach

That's horrible. I feel so bad for them. Anyone worth poaching from TTU? But also, feel bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 10:47:11 AM
Quote from: doom on April 10, 2024, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
It means TTU better fire up the coaching search thread cause they are about to lose their coach

That's horrible. I feel so bad for them. Anyone worth poaching from TTU? But also, feel bad.

I think the guy who had sex with a minor in the Bahamas is in the portal but not sure other than that.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2024, 10:51:36 AM
What a wild week
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2024, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: doom on April 10, 2024, 08:24:35 AM
Quote from: CNS on April 10, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
Baylor will match. He stays at Baylor.

Baylor can't possibly match, but I don't think they have to. I'd say, here's how much we can increase per year, how much goes to you, how much to staff, how much to nil?

If he stays, he'll have a shot at another title or at least making another final four in the next 5 years, they're renaming buildings and streets after him, he gets a statue and the Drew name is cemented in history. If he goes, he has some cash and could possibly destroy his legacy.

Baylor can match because Drew is worth a whole lot more to them than he is worth to Kentucky.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 11:07:33 AM
We are about to find out
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2024, 11:22:46 AM
Sounds like it's officially official, per the local Lexington paper. Talking about Cal's deal, not his replacement.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 10, 2024, 12:15:45 PM
Baylor won't let Drew go without a sweet counter-offer.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2024, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 10, 2024, 11:22:46 AM
Sounds like it's officially official, per the local Lexington paper. Talking about Cal's deal, not his replacement.

I just read that Cal got a 5yr deal that is for less than his $8.5m he was making but has incentives that would exceed it easily.

Also, supposedly, he secured $5m NIL per yr as part of the agreement. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: catastrophe on April 10, 2024, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise.
Unless he just hasn’t secured whatever salary bump/extension he was hoping to get from Baylor yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 10, 2024, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 10, 2024, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise.
Unless he just hasn’t secured whatever salary bump/extension he was hoping to get from Baylor yet.

https://twitter.com/BUDREW/status/1778105249506402505
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2024, 02:31:40 PM
That is one of the best tweets I've ever seen
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 02:35:32 PM
Kentucky fans figured out what episode was playing on the TV to cross reference the validity of the photo lol
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 10, 2024, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 02:35:32 PM
Kentucky fans figured out what episode was playing on the TV to cross reference the validity of the photo lol

I guess there is a good database of Family Feud + Game Shown Network schedule to do that then
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2024, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: Winters on April 10, 2024, 02:31:40 PM
That is one of the best tweets I've ever seen

Amazing
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: nicname on April 10, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 10, 2024, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 10, 2024, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise.
Unless he just hasn’t secured whatever salary bump/extension he was hoping to get from Baylor yet.

https://twitter.com/BUDREW/status/1778105249506402505

I can only imagine how great of a friend Mr. Shero was to Scott before NIL.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on April 10, 2024, 04:18:12 PM
IDK, Baylor, as a religious school, has some recruiting advantages over public schools.  I've heard that Baylor will fund churches or church wings named after the mother of a given recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: catastrophe on April 10, 2024, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise.
Unless he just hasn’t secured whatever salary bump/extension he was hoping to get from Baylor yet.

Sure, but I think he could toss down UK's contract offer and Baylor would call up Chip Gaines and they'd match.  I don't think there's a reason for him to play hardball.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2024, 05:17:06 PM
ngl this bank dude looks like my guy j-tang
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2024, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 10, 2024, 05:17:06 PM
ngl this bank dude looks like my guy j-tang

Think Drew has a type?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2024, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: ChiComCat on April 10, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:57:48 AM
I bet Kentucky gets Drew.

I agree.  I wouldn't expect Drew to flirt with an offer this much otherwise. 

what is drew doing to flirt with this offer?

regardless, i’m assuming that the delay is due to drew working to ensure baylor is in good hands by getting tang on board as his replacement
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 05:40:44 PM
'Clams knows how to twist the knife lmao
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 10, 2024, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 10, 2024, 05:17:06 PM
ngl this bank dude looks like my guy j-tang
ngl I thought the same thing too for a minute

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2024, 06:32:21 PM
Drew doesn't want to leave Baylor and is actually convincing the Kentucky brass to hire his buddy Tang.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2024, 09:31:57 AM
I just want off the ride
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bucket on April 11, 2024, 10:08:40 AM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1778438987121566076

Tang secured
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 11, 2024, 10:09:14 AM
How embarrassing for Kentucky
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2024, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: wetwillie on April 11, 2024, 10:09:14 AM
How embarrassing for Kentucky

Yeah, this is a significant reality check for them, and kinda the SEC by proxy.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
I know #BBN and I might be gEing a little bit here but why would a person with any other options in life voluntarily move to either Arkansas or Kentucky?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: bucket on April 11, 2024, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on April 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
I know #BBN and I might be gEing a little bit here but why would a person with any other options in life voluntarily move to either Arkansas or Kentucky?

Fayetteville and Lexington BTFO Waco
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: doom on April 11, 2024, 10:52:49 AM
All three are better than Ames. I hope UK has a tiny polo and a giant video camera lens/directional mic ready for Otz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
Title: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 11, 2024, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
Our guy Tang would never go to UK.

Once a wildcat, always a wildcat.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 11, 2024, 11:11:51 AM
It is all about the #JOY and the #LOVE.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK5XnBoWgAEddu0?format=png&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2024, 11:16:24 AM
https://twitter.com/BaylorAthletics/status/1778439696839799081
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2024, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.
gE is the light in the darkness
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:21:36 AM
Quote from: cfbandyman on April 11, 2024, 11:16:24 AM
https://twitter.com/BaylorAthletics/status/1778439696839799081
i love athletic department twitter beefs
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.

Thank you for having the courage to say this.
Title: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.

Thank you for having the courage to say this.
it’s not a problem.  explaining complex legal issues to the layman is sort of a hobby of mine.

i hope you learned something!
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: deputy dawg on April 11, 2024, 12:43:46 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.

Thank you for having the courage to say this.
it’s not a problem.  explaining complex legal issues to the layman is sort of a hobby of mine.

i hope you learned something!

One would have to read Drew's contract, but indemnification clauses can be circumvented relatively easily.  On the other hand, if Baylor has good legal counsel, they could adopt measures to counter most common circumvention schemes.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: joda on April 11, 2024, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: deputy dawg on April 11, 2024, 12:43:46 PM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 11, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
drew desperately wanted the kentucky job but has a no indemnification clause in his contract with baylor athletics.  if he left, he would need to make baylor whole.  he couldn’t convince tang to leave k-state to replace him at baylor. therefore, he was on the hook for almost $30M to baylor.  this is the backstory about his decision to stay in Waco that no one in the MSM is going to tell you.

Thank you for having the courage to say this.
it’s not a problem.  explaining complex legal issues to the layman is sort of a hobby of mine.

i hope you learned something!

One would have to read Drew's contract, but indemnification clauses can be circumvented relatively easily.  On the other hand, if Baylor has good legal counsel, they could adopt measures to counter most common circumvention schemes.

Well if we know one thing about Waco U, it’s that they will have good legal counsel
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2024, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Plot twist: UK hires Tang  :horrorsurprise:

Also, Waco sucks balls.
Just needs a little shiplap
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2024, 01:41:22 PM
I think they probably end up with Underwood.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 11, 2024, 01:49:31 PM
What a ride for underwood. From coaching juco in Florida to UK in 15 years
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CHONGS on April 11, 2024, 06:23:33 PM
oscar Weber has some juice left in that lemon.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 11, 2024, 06:28:50 PM
Can you imagine him trying to explain the play-hard chart to your average Kentucky basketball fan? What a spectacle
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2024, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on April 11, 2024, 06:28:50 PM
Can you imagine him trying to explain the play-hard chart to your average Kentucky basketball fan? What a spectacle

Need this
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Pete on April 11, 2024, 11:16:20 PM
Mormons better keep their greedy hands off our tang.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39924986/kentucky-targeting-byu-mark-pope-head-coach
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 12, 2024, 05:01:24 AM
Quote from: Pete on April 11, 2024, 11:16:20 PM
Mormons better keep their greedy hands off our tang.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39924986/kentucky-targeting-byu-mark-pope-head-coach
I didn't recognize him until they showed him in a UK photo with Rick P. He was fun to watch in college.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2024, 06:14:08 AM
he’s going to get torn apart by that fan base

he might not make it past the introductory press conference
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 12, 2024, 07:13:29 AM
It will be greeted with Oscar-like enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2024, 08:24:43 AM
5 year mission trip. 

Also, put me down for him being a fantastic hire. 
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 12, 2024, 08:32:44 AM
here's the scenario i'm currently allowing to run on repeat in my head:

UK: hey Scott Drew wanna coach here?
Drew: no
also Drew: (under his breath) You guys don't have the weird religious culture that i crave. honestly...baylor isn't weird-religion-y enough for me...
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: wetwillie on April 12, 2024, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: pissclams on April 12, 2024, 06:14:08 AM
he’s going to get torn apart by that fan base

he might not make it past the introductory press conference


It's a weird deal. The AD is nearing retirement and I assume has the support of the majority of donors to make this hire. I'd love to see it turn into a Tenn Schiano situation just for the lolz.
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: chum1 on April 12, 2024, 09:05:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Matt_McGavic/status/1778524791437484133
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 12, 2024, 09:07:50 AM
Is it too late for Kentucky fans to pull a Mark Stoops revolt?
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 12, 2024, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 12, 2024, 09:05:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Matt_McGavic/status/1778524791437484133
:lol:
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2024, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 12, 2024, 09:05:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Matt_McGavic/status/1778524791437484133

Lolz
Title: Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
Post by: Spracne on April 12, 2024, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: chum1 on April 12, 2024, 09:05:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Matt_McGavic/status/1778524791437484133

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