Author Topic: Game of Thrones SHOW thread for people who are confused by the book thread (Read 371206 times)

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #400 on:** April 24, 2014, 03:42:12 PM »

I think Cersei and Jaime have a sort of power struggle rapey vibe kind of relationship anyway; so I'm not so sure this was out of the ordinary for them -- well maybe the doing it right next to their dead son part was unusual.

ydarg2012 · « **Reply #401 on:** April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM »

I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are

CNS · « **Reply #402 on:** April 24, 2014, 04:01:46 PM »

Quote from: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM

I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are

Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....

HerrSonntag · « **Reply #403 on:** April 24, 2014, 04:05:42 PM »

Quote from: CNS on April 24, 2014, 04:01:46 PM

Quote from: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are

Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....

They asked GRRM about it, he didn't seem to have a problem with it... in the books that meeting in the sept is ther first time they've seen each other since Jaime returns to KL, in their shared grief they bang one out next to Joff's remains. Since in the show hes been back a while, it wouldn't really make sense, so they had to change up the scene..... and I guess it got a little rapey.

CNS · « **Reply #404 on:** April 24, 2014, 04:08:37 PM »

Quote from: HerrSonntag on April 24, 2014, 04:05:42 PM

Quote from: CNS on April 24, 2014, 04:01:46 PM
Quote from: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are

Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....
They asked GRRM about it, he didn't seem to have a problem with it... in the books that meeting in the sept is ther first time they've seen each other since Jaime returns to KL, in their shared grief they bang one out next to Joff's remains. Since in the show hes been back a while, it wouldn't really make sense, so they had to change up the scene..... and I guess it got a little rapey.

Yeah, I know. Was joking about lanisters being extremely easy to spot as weird.

TownieCat · « **Reply #405 on:** April 27, 2014, 08:02:07 PM »

Benja · « **Reply #406 on:** April 27, 2014, 08:20:27 PM »

Oh man, so pumped. Have a feeling this is going to be a good one.

joda · « **Reply #407 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:06:42 PM »

Kinda boring episode until holy crap bombshell reveal for the book readers

(ok I kinda had that assumed but that still, pretty

)

TownieCat · « **Reply #408 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:10:38 PM »

OK_Cat · « **Reply #409 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:16:58 PM »

I find the scifi stuff kind of out of place, but that was pretty wtf awesome

Benja · « **Reply #410 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:18:49 PM »

holy crap titty balls

Pete · « **Reply #411 on:** April 27, 2014, 09:54:45 PM »

I think GRRM has almost no realistic intention of finishing these books.

nicname · « **Reply #412 on:** April 27, 2014, 10:55:45 PM »

Quote from: joda on April 21, 2014, 12:47:51 PM

The Cercei/Jamie scene was weird as eff. I really hope they didn't intend it to be that rape-y but it definitely came out that way. It was somewhat accurate to the books (in the sept, dead Joffrey right there) but in the books it happens right when Jamie gets back to KL and Cersei is all they killed our son, you're back, avenge him, kiss me, no not here, oh, ok. I think they where trying to give that impression but the mixed up timeline made it come off as rape.

It really pissed me off since Jamie's character is becoming likable at this point in both the books and the show. This scene in the books makes you realize Jamie loves her more than she does him and you start to feel a little bad for him too. This portrayal makes you feel a little bad for Cersei even though she's well on her way to psychopath town.

Pretty much what I got out of it. I didn't see it as all that rapey, just messed up and gross all around. It might be due to the fact that I've been desensitized to rape from the numerous brutal rapes that I've seen while watching this show. Jamie and Cersei doing their best Targaryen impression didn't really compete.

nicname · « **Reply #413 on:** April 27, 2014, 11:05:20 PM »

Quote from: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM

I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are

Haha, no. There is hope for Tommen (who with Jeff and their sis, I consider to be Lannisters). Tyrion is great. Jamie has some very redeeming qualities, but he's still weird AF. Cersei and Tywin are completely despicable bad people. Any positives in their makeup is almost negligible. They're great characters though.

nicname · « **Reply #414 on:** April 27, 2014, 11:07:08 PM »

What about Stannis? Dude doesn't really live up to his horrid reputation imo. Not so far anyway. I mean he's pretty keen on following his succubus's advice, but other than that I haven't seen the monster that he was rumored to be.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #415 on:** April 27, 2014, 11:38:32 PM »

Stannis isn't a monster, just very stoic and cold. Does what needs to be done, but isn't brutal.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #416 on:** April 27, 2014, 11:56:19 PM »

I don't like killing babies. That part sucked. The rest of the episode was pretty great.

nicname · « **Reply #417 on:** April 27, 2014, 11:59:57 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2014, 11:56:19 PM

I don't like killing babies. That part sucked. The rest of the episode was pretty great.

I don't remember any baby being killed.

nicname · « **Reply #418 on:** April 28, 2014, 12:04:27 AM »

I'm just happy to be caught up, so I can read and post in this thread. I've debated buying the books, but decided to read The Accursed Kings series, which GRRM said was a major influence, instead. I still may pull the trigger on the F&I/GOT books.

pissclams · « **Reply #419 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:00:09 AM »

who were those dudes that caught bran? just a subset of wildings? or were they former night's watch dudes that quit?

OK_Cat · « **Reply #420 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:02:56 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:00:09 AM

who were those dudes that caught bran? just a subset of wildings? or were they former night's watch dudes that quit?

they were the night's watch guys that killed the night's watch leader guy and the old incest guy. jon snow has been referring to them as "mutineers"

pissclams · « **Reply #421 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:09:21 AM »

is that who jon was recruiting guys to go find near the end of last night?

Institutional Control · « **Reply #422 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:09:47 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:09:21 AM

is that who jon was recruiting guys to go find near the end of last night?

Yes.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #423 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:10:04 AM »

yes. he is concerned that they will tell the wildlings how to defeat the watch at the wall

pissclams · « **Reply #424 on:** April 28, 2014, 08:15:38 AM »

thanks guys, great wrap up - next week looks like it's gonna be a real barn burner, the hot blond MLK wanna-be seems to set target at king's landing.