"Obamacare"

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

It's worse than I thought. So far, Obamacare is basically just adding a ton of new enrollments to Medicaid

You're surprised that people who are offered Medicaid, WHICH IS FREE, would sign up for Medicaid?

You're right. I shouldn't be surprised, but the Obamacare fallout just gets worse and worse. Get those voters on the dole!!!

[ednksu]

It's worse than I thought. So far, Obamacare is basically just adding a ton of new enrollments to Medicaid

You're surprised that people who are offered Medicaid, WHICH IS FREE, would sign up for Medicaid?

You're right. I shouldn't be surprised, but the Obamacare fallout just gets worse and worse. Get those voters on the dole!!!

LOL.  I think its just great you've stumbled upon what I've been talking about and yet you still don't understand how this program works.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Until the poorest states in America are actually voting democrat, this "get those voters on the dole" talking point is going to remain the single dumbest republican talking point.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Until the poorest states in America are actually voting democrat, this "get those voters on the dole" talking point is going to remain the single dumbest republican talking point.

Hint - there are plenty of people voting Democrat in even the "reddest" of states, "poorest" of states, "richest" of states, etc. If you're suggesting that doling out welfare doesn't help the party of welfare to buy votes, I can't help you. That doesn't mean that everyone on welfare votes Democrat.

[star seed 7]

Until the poorest states in America are actually voting democrat, this "get those voters on the dole" talking point is going to remain the single dumbest republican talking point.

Hint - there are plenty of people voting Democrat in even the "reddest" of states, "poorest" of states, "richest" of states, etc. If you're suggesting that doling out welfare doesn't help the party of welfare to buy votes, I can't help you. That doesn't mean that everyone on welfare votes Democrat.

 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

[Headinjun]

You think its a copy of Oregon Trail they're getting ready to play??

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Question for chum:

As an Obama care "navigator" are you required to spew unsubstantiated and patently false propaganda, or is it only encouraged?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Well, Edna just made it abundantly clear he doesn't know jack crap about the implementation of the law.

[chum1]

 

Question for chum:

As an Obama care "navigator" are you required to spew unsubstantiated and patently false propaganda, or is it only encouraged?

Any answer I give to that question will be unsubstantiated and patently false.

[wetwillie]

You think its a copy of Oregon Trail they're getting ready to play??

I don't know but the monitor isn't plugged in so that could be a problem.

[DeoKat]

 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

 

Is that real? If not, clever. If so, amazing. 

[Tobias]

Is that real? If not, clever. If so, amazing. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/kathleen-sebelius-websites-for-dummies-obamacare-healthcare-gov-tennessee-brian-kelsey-2013-11

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So is the NSA now lending a hand to Obamacare? Weird story... http://twitchy.com/2013/11/02/jim-angle-shares-disturbing-experience-with-obamacare-800-number/

The helpline is now screening out media inquiries, but how did they know?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

You also can't keep your doctor. Another Obamacare loser speaks out. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304527504579171710423780446

[Rage Against the McKee]

You also can't keep your doctor. Another Obamacare loser speaks out. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304527504579171710423780446

UCSD has agreed to accept only one Covered California plan—a very restrictive Anthem EPO Plan.

Can somebody explain why this would be the case?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

UCSD has agreed to accept only one Covered California plan—a very restrictive Anthem EPO Plan.

Can somebody explain why this would be the case?

Because doctors are generally worried / uncertain about reimbursement rates of the new exchange health plans. In many instances, insurers have decided that the only way to make the Obamacare plans financially viable is to cut reimbursement rates.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-obamacare/

New York doctors are treating ObamaCare like the plague, a new survey reveals.

A poll conducted by the New York State Medical Society finds that 44 percent of MDs said they are not participating in the nation’s new health-care plan.
Another 33 percent say they’re still not sure whether to become ObamaCare providers.

Only 23 percent of the 409 physicians queried said they’re taking patients who signed up through health exchanges.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”

Three out of four doctors who are participating in the program said they “had to participate” because of existing contractual obligations with an insurer or medical provider, not because they wanted to. Only one in four “affirmatively” chose to sign up for the exchanges.

Nearly eight in 10 — 77 percent — said they had not been given a fee schedule to show much they’ll get paid if they sign up.

The survey invited doctors to anonymously share opinions about the new health care law, and many took time out of their busy days to vent.

“Obama Care wants to start right away, but who see all these new patients???? Not me,” e-mailed one doc.

Another said, “I plan to retire if this disaster is implemented. This is a train wreck.”

“I refuse to participate in the exchange plans! I am completely opposed to this new law,” said a third respondent.

One doctor recycled the mantra used to attack addictions: “The solution is simple: Just say no.”

One physician was so disgusted, he threatened to taken only cash patients going forward.

“I am seriously considering opting out of all insurance plans including Medicare because of [ObamaCare].”

Some physicians said the pressure on insurance carriers to control costs is leading to rationed care.

“OBAMACARE is a disaster. I have already seen denial of medication, denial of referrals,” one doc said.

And they worry that stingy payments for medical services offered by insurers could put some doctors out of business and force others into retirement.

“Any doctor who accepts the exchange is just a bad businessman/woman. Pays terrible,” argued one doctor.

Said another MD, “Can’t imagine any doctors would be willing to work for so little money? All doctors should boycott.”

Doctors complained they’ve gotten the shaft for years even before ObamaCare.

“I get screwed from insurance companies already. I refuse to get screwed any longer,” one doctor said.

Others said they don’t have enough information to make an informed choice.

“This is a joke. We are flying blind,” said one doctor.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/health/obamacare-doctors-limited/

Concord's one hospital won't accept any policies offered by the marketplaces. To see a doctor, specialist or primary care provider affiliated with the hospital, patients on these Obamacare plans will have to pay out of their own pocket. The closest in-network hospital is in Manchester.

"Can you imagine having to go 25 miles away to Manchester to get access to a health care provider that is covered by your insurance?" Harte asked. "Right now, Concord is one big black hole of health care for people buying these plans."

And it's not just Concord. Nationally, consumers are learning a number of well-known hospitals won't accept insurance offered through the marketplaces.

In New York, NYU will accept only a minority of the plans. In Los Angeles, UCLA medical centers will accept a couple. In Atlanta, Emory has limited the number of plans it will take. Academic medical centers are often pricier because they tackle the more complex cases.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/hospital-of-tomorrow/articles/2013/10/30/top-hospitals-opt-out-of-obamacare

Regulations driven by the Obama White House have indeed made insurance more affordable – if, like Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, you're looking only at price. But responding to Obamacare caps on premiums, many insurers will, in turn, simply offer top-tier doctors and hospitals far less cash for services rendered.

Watchdog.org looked at the top 18 hospitals nationwide as ranked by U.S. News and World Report for 2013-2014. We contacted each hospital to determine their contracts and talked to several insurance companies, as well.

The result of our investigation: Many top hospitals are simply opting out of Obamacare.

Many conservatives warned this would happen (I think even I did if I go back to posts here back in 2010). Think of it this way: Obamacare is effectively a massive expansion of Medicaid, for two reasons: (1) One component of the law literally expands Medicaid above the poverty line, (2) many of the plans sold on the exchanges will be quite similar to Medicaid due to the shitty reimbursement rates. Fewer and fewer doctors accept Medicaid, both because of the low reimbursement rates and because of the clientele typically associated with Medicaid.

Just one more reason Obamacare is a complete, unmitigated disaster.

[Rage Against the McKee]

What would a doctor working only on medicaid patients earn in a year?

[Emo EMAW]

What would a doctor working only on medicaid patients earn in a year?

If the answer is "less than a doctor that doesn't work on medicaid patients" then there's a potential problem.

[chum1]

So, now we're complaining that people with free coverage don't get as much as people who pay for it?  There are plenty of doctors who see lowlifes on Medicaid, UNFORTUNATELY.

[sys]

What would a doctor working only on medicaid patients earn in a year?

If the answer is "less than a doctor that doesn't work on medicaid patients" then there's a potential problem.

only if there's a shortage of doctors.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So, now we're complaining that people with free coverage don't get as much as people who pay for it?  There are plenty of doctors who see lowlifes on Medicaid, UNFORTUNATELY.

No, this is not about the people getting "free" coverage under Obamacare. This discussion pertains to the millions of people who were paying for individual policies, but the policies are now being cancelled (sorry - "not renewed") because they don't comply with the Obamacare mandates. They now have to find new policies, and many of those policies will not be "free" - many of them will be more expensive than what they were already paying.* And, as evidenced above, there will likely also be significant limitations on the number of healthcare providers that even accept the new insurance. These people played by the rules, and they're now being screwed by the redistribution under Obamacare.

*I'm guessing that "many" will actually be a majority, though I've seen no hard evidence on that. It seems likely to me that the majority of people who were already purchasing individual policies probably earn enough money that they won't qualify for much of a subsidy, if any.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Hopefully Obama lied about the death panel, too. Maybe at least some good will come out of this bill.