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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #450 on: October 01, 2013, 01:03:17 PM »
This talking point about Obama cutting the deficit in half, if I'm understanding it right, is about as stupid as someone who filed for chapter 13 bragging about cutting their car payment in half.

:lol: Or put another way, "Sure I added $10 tril to the debt, but it coulda been 12.5!"
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« Reply #452 on: October 01, 2013, 01:18:57 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.   

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« Reply #453 on: October 01, 2013, 01:34:35 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

But what if death spiral first?

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« Reply #454 on: October 01, 2013, 01:37:15 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!
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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #455 on: October 01, 2013, 01:48:02 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work? 

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« Reply #456 on: October 01, 2013, 02:10:45 PM »
Obamacare sounds like it is mumped

Because of the death spiral, right?
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« Reply #457 on: October 01, 2013, 02:11:07 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Couldn't those same elected people vote to defund it?  How is it different?



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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #458 on: October 01, 2013, 02:15:24 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

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« Reply #459 on: October 01, 2013, 02:48:44 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?
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« Reply #460 on: October 01, 2013, 03:24:17 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

Not really a ringing endorsement for a bill nobody even read before voting.

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« Reply #461 on: October 01, 2013, 03:52:54 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

Not really a ringing endorsement for a bill nobody even read before voting.

Well, to quote then Speaker San Fran Nan (the one who currently can't think of a single cut to federal spending), "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."
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« Reply #462 on: October 01, 2013, 03:55:09 PM »
Too many people love Obamacare, and the website keeps going down from all the traffic.   :users:

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« Reply #463 on: October 01, 2013, 04:12:57 PM »
Too many people love Obamacare, and the website keeps going down from all the traffic.   :users:

Government shutdown, bruh
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« Reply #464 on: October 01, 2013, 04:42:44 PM »

I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

Not really a ringing endorsement for a bill nobody even read before voting.

Well, to quote then Speaker San Fran Nan (the one who currently can't think of a single cut to federal spending), "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."

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« Reply #465 on: October 01, 2013, 06:24:25 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

The Medicare prescription drug bill.

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« Reply #466 on: October 01, 2013, 06:54:54 PM »
I don't like certain aspects of Obamacare, but damn, give it a rest already.  If it's a complete disaster (which is a definite possibility), Republicans will benefit in the next election cycle.  Laws can be reformed, and even repealed, if necessary.

eff the people!  There are political points to score!

Obamacare sounds like it is mumped but didn't Obama win the election and then the democrats won enough seats to pass it?  Isn't that kind of how its supposed to work?

Sort of. Obama has to bribe the last 4 dems with millions for the votes late on Christmas Eve of 2009.

Not to mention using budget reconciliation to ram it through with just 51 votes after the Dems lost Teddy "I drowned a girl" Kennedy's old seat to Scott Brown, who ran on being "the 41st vote against Obamacare" and won. Yes, the bribes and maneuvering was Democracy at its finest. Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

The Medicare prescription drug bill.

Another good example of a crap bill pushed through despite the lack of public support.

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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #467 on: October 01, 2013, 07:41:04 PM »
@hipsterrunoff: Do u evr think abt how much ur life sux bc the poors have healthcare?

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« Reply #468 on: October 01, 2013, 08:32:24 PM »
Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

The Medicare prescription drug bill.

A number of Dems in the House and Senate voted for Medicare Part D. The same cannot be said for Obamacare. In fact, the only thing "bipartisan" about Obamacare was the House vote in opposition.
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« Reply #469 on: October 01, 2013, 09:47:10 PM »
Can anyone name the last major entitlement passed without any bipartisan support?

The Medicare prescription drug bill.

A number of Dems in the House and Senate voted for Medicare Part D. The same cannot be said for Obamacare. In fact, the only thing "bipartisan" about Obamacare was the House vote in opposition.

Yeah a very small number.
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Re: "Obamacare"
« Reply #470 on: October 02, 2013, 01:51:43 PM »

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« Reply #471 on: October 02, 2013, 04:31:07 PM »
Breakdown of every plan being offered by Metallic Level, by county and state.  Also gives premium examples for each selected sample group.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-plan-information/

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« Reply #472 on: October 02, 2013, 04:33:47 PM »
I missed the slide where the president arbitrarily decides whether or not to enforce then law.  That's a critical element in today's "democracy"
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« Reply #473 on: October 02, 2013, 04:53:09 PM »
I missed the slide where the president arbitrarily decides whether or not to enforce then law.  That's a critical element in today's "democracy"

Yes, I assume the next president can just say I don't like this law and send the attorney general to file lawsuits against states that do try and keep it going.

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« Reply #474 on: October 02, 2013, 04:54:49 PM »
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.