"Obamacare"

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I mean seriously, is $225/month for a male in his mid-twenties for a high deductible plan normal?

It is when you have to pay for a ton of stuff you don't actually need insurance for, and when you're paying for an increasingly sick pool of people now that insurers have to insure people who are already sick. It's sort of like socialized medicine, only now you pay for it through ridiculous premiums as opposed to higher taxes. And just wait until you see the limited number of doctors/hospitals that will accept your shitty insurance.

Obamacare is the single biggest domestic fuckup in American history. Hopefully King v. Burwell will gut it next summer, and the GOP can then finish it off.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I'm amazed at the lack of outrage that the president lied, not only to congress and the senate, but directly to the people to get the largest tax increase in US history. Bizarre. Network news hasn't even reported it as of today, which isn't unexpected to most people.

There is plenty of outrage, manifested in the midterm election results. It is true that there would be far greater outrage if the networks weren't stonewalling yet another Obama scandal. Looking back, it's truly amazing the volume of water the Fourth Estate has carried for easily the worst president in American history.

[ednksu]

Obamacare is the single biggest domestic fuckup in American history. Hopefully King v. Burwell will gut it next summer, and the GOP can then finish it off.

No hyperbole here.  Take that Dred

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Obamacare is the single biggest domestic fuckup in American history. Hopefully King v. Burwell will gut it next summer, and the GOP can then finish it off.

No hyperbole here.  Take that Dred

I was speaking in terms of legislation, and I used to qualify it as "one of" - but I honestly cannot think of a more destructive and oppressive legislative blunder, ever. It is terrible on almost every level.

[star seed 7]

jim crow laws, less oppressive than obamacare

[star seed 7]

just make it single payer already, jeez

practically immoral that we haven't gotten there already

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

jim crow laws, less oppressive than obamacare

Those were horrible and oppressive state and local laws. A person could escape them by moving to another state or town.

[star seed 7]

obamacare def needs to be improved (see single payer), but i fail to see how something that gives affordable healthcare to millions of people is "oppressive".  to believe that is rough ridin' stupid.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

obamacare def needs to be improved (see single payer), but i fail to see how something that gives affordable healthcare to millions of people is "oppressive".  to believe that is rough ridin' stupid.

Spracne disagrees with you.

It took away affordable healthcare for more people than it gave.

[Spracne]

obamacare def needs to be improved (see single payer), but i fail to see how something that gives affordable healthcare to millions of people is "oppressive".  to believe that is rough ridin' stupid.

Spracne disagrees with you.

It took away affordable healthcare for more people than it gave.

Not so fast!  I don't really know how I feel about this whole kerfuffle, so I find it highly unlikely that you can speak credibly w/r/t my beliefs.  As a consumer, I simply want to pay the least possible amount of money.  I will admit for purely selfish reasons that parts of the ACA benefit me, and I would not want to see us permanently return to the previous paradigm of minimize/shed risk.

[michigancat]

jim crow laws, less oppressive than obamacare

Those were horrible and oppressive state and local laws. A person could escape them by moving to another state or town.

good grief, should have just let that one slide maybe

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

jim crow laws, less oppressive than obamacare

Those were horrible and oppressive state and local laws. A person could escape them by moving to another state or town.

good grief, should have just let that one slide maybe

Probably right.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I mean seriously, is $225/month for a male in his mid-twenties for a high deductible plan normal?

I had one for $80 per month through coventry in 2012.  Bought it on the internet

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Maybe stop defending the ACA as something that is for the greater good, rather than attack ksu

k thx,
 reality

[Tobias]

I had one for $80 per month through coventry in 2012.  Bought it on the internet

where do you live?  my isp blocks that site

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I had one for $80 per month through coventry in 2012.  Bought it on the internet

where do you live?  my isp blocks that site

66208

[The Big Train]

now it all makes sense

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/politics/cost-of-coverage-under-affordable-care-act-to-increase-in-2015.html?_r=1&referrer=

[ben ji]

I had one for $80 per month through coventry in 2012.  Bought it on the internet

where do you live?  my isp blocks that site

66208

FSD and ben ji are neighbors! 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I had one for $80 per month through coventry in 2012.  Bought it on the internet

where do you live?  my isp blocks that site

66208

FSD and ben ji are neighbors! 

 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/poll-obamacare-approval-112948.html

It shouldn't be that hard to repeal a law that consistently polls well under 40% approval. Do what you can to gut it, run on it, win and repeal it.

[nicname]

Is misleading the public not a big deal now?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Is misleading the public not a big deal now?

I think it depends on the political party.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Who would have guessed it? Obama admin lied about Obamacare enrollment, inflating the numbers by nearly a half million.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/inflated-obamacare-enrollment-dental-113064.html?hp=rc2_4

[Dugout DickStone]

So real non partisan question, what happens when it is repealed?  Will the markets get all screwed out?  I mean, you can't flip a switch and just go back to 2012