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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7175 on: August 13, 2018, 01:53:37 PM »
"extreme level of vitriol" rofl

 :lol:  If one of the top guys in in the FBI was texting his FBI lawyer lover that he was going to stop your guy.   LibBot Nation would be 4x more unhinged than they are now. 


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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7176 on: August 13, 2018, 01:56:29 PM »
Trump is over here tweeting out verifiable lies daily... But this guy texts his lover (the lovely ms page) that Trump is a liar and he is fired... Okay.

Your guy tried to tell the world that a YouTube video killed a sitting U.S. Ambassador.   That's peak lying, and you guys didn't bat an eye, even heralded the Susan Rice tour of Sunday Morning lies.    :lol:  at Libbots just dismissing the words of one of the top guys in the FBI.

If you needed anymore proof that LibBot Nation has sold out to The Man . . . you have it right here.

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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7177 on: August 13, 2018, 01:58:10 PM »
We got a dax tangent rant going  :drool:
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« Reply #7178 on: August 13, 2018, 01:59:29 PM »
We got a dax tangent rant going  :drool:

Terrible to see the LibBot movement sell out like it has.   



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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7179 on: August 13, 2018, 02:00:33 PM »
We got a dax tangent rant going  :drool:
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« Reply #7180 on: August 13, 2018, 02:03:13 PM »
Tapped out again?

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« Reply #7182 on: August 13, 2018, 02:52:03 PM »
Great to see first amendment warriors in here okay with people fired for having opinions.


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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7183 on: August 13, 2018, 03:09:59 PM »
Lead investigator in both Clinton email server and Trump COLUSION investigations is asked whether Trump's gonna win. Answer: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

Phil: [shrug] That was just a political opinion. Nothing improper there. :facepalm:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7184 on: August 13, 2018, 03:20:29 PM »
Well, stopping criminals was his job so...
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« Reply #7185 on: August 13, 2018, 03:22:23 PM »
Lead investigator in both Clinton email server and Trump COLUSION investigations is asked whether Trump's gonna win. Answer: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

Phil: [shrug] That was just a political opinion. Nothing improper there. :facepalm:

If he hadn't used a department issued phone he'd still have a job.

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« Reply #7186 on: August 13, 2018, 03:25:38 PM »
Lead investigator in both Clinton email server and Trump COLUSION investigations is asked whether Trump's gonna win. Answer: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

Phil: [shrug] That was just a political opinion. Nothing improper there. :facepalm:
What did he do to stop it. His explanation to that text is the "we" is the American people. I don't know if he is being honest nor do I trust him but if that's not what he meant and he wasn't just talking big to his gf, there should be some evidence showing what he tried to do.... And definitely fire him if he did....and fix the broken process in the fbi that would allow any single to derail an investigation.

You always tell us to ignore the POTUS very public comments (lies) and focus on his actions.... If that's the case, should someone be fired for their private comments alone?

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« Reply #7187 on: August 13, 2018, 03:47:36 PM »
Lead investigator in both Clinton email server and Trump COLUSION investigations is asked whether Trump's gonna win. Answer: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

Phil: [shrug] That was just a political opinion. Nothing improper there. :facepalm:
What did he do to stop it. His explanation to that text is the "we" is the American people. I don't know if he is being honest nor do I trust him but if that's not what he meant and he wasn't just talking big to his gf, there should be some evidence showing what he tried to do.... And definitely fire him if he did....and fix the broken process in the fbi that would allow any single to derail an investigation.

You always tell us to ignore the POTUS very public comments (lies) and focus on his actions.... If that's the case, should someone be fired for their private comments alone?

Phil: “Unless Strozk actually confesses to being biased, there’s no proof he did anything wrong! I repeat, nothing to see here!!”
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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7188 on: August 13, 2018, 03:55:47 PM »
Great to see first amendment warriors in here okay with people fired for having opinions.

I think Strzok would lose a legal battle, here. There are three sequential questions: (1) Government employees are only protected by the First Amendment when they are speaking as private citizens. If their speech is part of their official job duties, then they can be fired or disciplined for it. (Strzok could probably pass this one, although he was using his work phone...). If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen, the next question is, was their speech regarding a matter of public concern? If they weren’t speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment will not protect their speech. (If he passes step 1, he shouldn't have any problem passing step 2). If they were speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment might protect their speech. (3) If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen on a matter of public concern, the next question is whether the government employer's interest in efficiently fulfilling its public services is greater than the employee's interest in speaking freely. (And here's the rub, if he makes it past the first two steps. Strzok almost certainly loses here.)

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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7189 on: August 13, 2018, 04:03:03 PM »
Lead investigator in both Clinton email server and Trump COLUSION investigations is asked whether Trump's gonna win. Answer: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

Phil: [shrug] That was just a political opinion. Nothing improper there. :facepalm:
What did he do to stop it. His explanation to that text is the "we" is the American people. I don't know if he is being honest nor do I trust him but if that's not what he meant and he wasn't just talking big to his gf, there should be some evidence showing what he tried to do.... And definitely fire him if he did....and fix the broken process in the fbi that would allow any single to derail an investigation.

You always tell us to ignore the POTUS very public comments (lies) and focus on his actions.... If that's the case, should someone be fired for their private comments alone?

Phil: “Unless Strozk actually confesses to being biased, there’s no proof he did anything wrong! I repeat, nothing to see here!!”
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« Reply #7190 on: August 13, 2018, 04:10:58 PM »
 :lol: at Phil, the dude quite literally said in his official capacity at the FBI (and to another employee of the FBI using language directly reflecting their job descriptions and powers) that he (they) were going to stop Trump etc. etc. etc.

But in Phil Titola world that's just some rando dude expressing his 1st amendment rights.    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7191 on: August 13, 2018, 04:13:39 PM »
Do any of you think mob investigators ever talked about stopping a mob boss they are investigating?
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« Reply #7192 on: August 13, 2018, 04:15:57 PM »
Do any of you think mob investigators ever talked about stopping a mob boss they are investigating?

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« Reply #7193 on: August 13, 2018, 04:30:17 PM »
Great to see first amendment warriors in here okay with people fired for having opinions.

I think Strzok would lose a legal battle, here. There are three sequential questions: (1) Government employees are only protected by the First Amendment when they are speaking as private citizens. If their speech is part of their official job duties, then they can be fired or disciplined for it. (Strzok could probably pass this one, although he was using his work phone...). If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen, the next question is, was their speech regarding a matter of public concern? If they weren’t speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment will not protect their speech. (If he passes step 1, he shouldn't have any problem passing step 2). If they were speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment might protect their speech. (3) If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen on a matter of public concern, the next question is whether the government employer's interest in efficiently fulfilling its public services is greater than the employee's interest in speaking freely. (And here's the rub, if he makes it past the first two steps. Strzok almost certainly loses here.)
Good info and if it is accurate I have no problem with him being canned over his texts alone.

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« Reply #7194 on: August 13, 2018, 04:37:29 PM »
Glad we finally got some resolution. Feelings have been hurt for far too long to not get some kind of closure.
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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7195 on: August 13, 2018, 04:47:11 PM »
I think Strzok would lose a legal battle, here. There are three sequential questions: (1) Government employees are only protected by the First Amendment when they are speaking as private citizens. If their speech is part of their official job duties, then they can be fired or disciplined for it. (Strzok could probably pass this one, although he was using his work phone...). If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen, the next question is, was their speech regarding a matter of public concern? If they weren’t speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment will not protect their speech. (If he passes step 1, he shouldn't have any problem passing step 2). If they were speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment might protect their speech. (3) If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen on a matter of public concern, the next question is whether the government employer's interest in efficiently fulfilling its public services is greater than the employee's interest in speaking freely. (And here's the rub, if he makes it past the first two steps. Strzok almost certainly loses here.)
Good info and if it is accurate I have no problem with him being canned over his texts alone.

the fbi did not recommend that he be fired, however.  i imagine they're pretty up to date on the relevant concerns.
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« Reply #7196 on: August 13, 2018, 04:54:04 PM »
You just never see government apparatchiks trying to protect their own.


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Re: Crooked FBI CIA Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, McCabe ??? (BigO)
« Reply #7197 on: August 13, 2018, 04:54:13 PM »
I think Strzok would lose a legal battle, here. There are three sequential questions: (1) Government employees are only protected by the First Amendment when they are speaking as private citizens. If their speech is part of their official job duties, then they can be fired or disciplined for it. (Strzok could probably pass this one, although he was using his work phone...). If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen, the next question is, was their speech regarding a matter of public concern? If they weren’t speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment will not protect their speech. (If he passes step 1, he shouldn't have any problem passing step 2). If they were speaking on a matter of public concern, the First Amendment might protect their speech. (3) If a government employee was speaking as a private citizen on a matter of public concern, the next question is whether the government employer's interest in efficiently fulfilling its public services is greater than the employee's interest in speaking freely. (And here's the rub, if he makes it past the first two steps. Strzok almost certainly loses here.)
Good info and if it is accurate I have no problem with him being canned over his texts alone.

the fbi did not recommend that he be fired, however.  i imagine they're pretty up to date on the relevant concerns.

A demotion is a potential constitutional harm, too. Demotion, termination, they're both injuries resulting from adverse action. It's a distinction without a meaningful difference in this context.

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« Reply #7198 on: August 13, 2018, 05:29:59 PM »
the severity of a sanction is pretty meaningful, i think.
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« Reply #7199 on: August 13, 2018, 05:33:44 PM »
the severity of a sanction is pretty meaningful, i think.

In terms of damages, sure. But not in terms of standing to bring a lawsuit.