I want Spradler run off the team

[steve dave]

I don't get the sense that vic actually wants to play so I have a hard time blaming him.  he seems to hate basketball. 

Odd.  I thought I'd noticed that at at times this year as well but I'd decided that it was just me wishing that Vic wasn't playing and hating the game when he was. 

he seems like that really big kid in grade school that has absolutely no drive and his parents force him out there hoping sports will take

[kim carnes]

Spradz is definitely the goat.  It's not debatable.

[MakeItRain]

if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will

I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse.  Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season.  At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.

Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.

Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.

Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU.  Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn.  Will's defense against Christopherson was poor.  I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens.  I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket.  But really it isn't Will's fault.  Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

[nicname]

if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will

I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse.  Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season.  At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.

Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.

Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.

Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU.  Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn.  Will's defense against Christopherson was poor.  I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens.  I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket.  But really it isn't Will's fault.  Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Was surprised when they said Tay's first turnover today was his first in 7 games.  Pretty impressive.

[steve dave]

if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will

I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse.  Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season.  At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.

Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.

Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.

Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU.  Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn.  Will's defense against Christopherson was poor.  I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens.  I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket.  But really it isn't Will's fault.  Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

that's my argumant for vic.  it's not his fault frank keeps playing him.  he obviously doesn't want to play basketball.

[SwiftCat]

Will has shown the ability to not be a shitty defender though. He isn't great or even good, but at times he's been a lot better than he was today.

[steve dave]

if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will

I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse.  Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season.  At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.

Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.

Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.

Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU.  Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn.  Will's defense against Christopherson was poor.  I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens.  I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket.  But really it isn't Will's fault.  Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Was surprised when they said Tay's first turnover today was his first in 7 games.  Pretty impressive.

and his next one was 1 minute later  

[Trim]

Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Nope, you'd foul the crap out of him and then I'd boo my ass off at the refs for calling the foul.

Also, #TeamMrsDave

[_33]

Sprads is a shorter, slower Clent Stewart.

[steve dave]

Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Nope, you'd foul the crap out of him and then I'd boo my ass off at the refs for calling the foul.

Also, #TeamMrsDave

she should get more credit for this thread than me.  she called it well ahead of everyone. 

[steve dave]

It's, like, why would you choose basketball instead of being in a band or something!?

good post sd.

[MakeItRain]

Even mentioning Vic as a goat is the height of stupidity, he averages 6 minutes a game.  He played two minutes today had one shot attempt and no other stat.

[steve dave]

Even mentioning Vic as a goat is the height of stupidity, he averages 6 minutes a game.  He played two minutes today had one shot attempt and no other stat.

his 2 minutes seemed like 84 minutes though.  and you multiply his shot times 42 and he hit the rim zero times. 

[Dugout DickStone]

if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will

I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse.  Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season.  At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.

Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.

Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.

Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU.  Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn.  Will's defense against Christopherson was poor.  I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens.  I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket.  But really it isn't Will's fault.  Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Yeah, I'd hate your ass.

[AzCat]

Even mentioning Vic as a goat is the height of stupidity, he averages 6 minutes a game.  He played two minutes today had one shot attempt and no other stat.

his 2 minutes seemed like 84 minutes though.  and you multiply his shot times 42 and he hit the rim zero times. 

Seems like there's a stretch every game that averages about six minutes or so where the 'Cats go stone cold and / or the other team scores in bunches.  Highly correlated with Vic being on the floor I'm sure. 

[felix rex]

Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?

Nope, you'd foul the crap out of him and then I'd boo my ass off at the refs for calling the foul.

Also, #TeamMrsDave

Do you finish at the rim more often than not? And where are you socks? midcalf?

[Trim]

I liked MIR's description of Doc as a ball mover so much that I've recently incorporated the term into staff evals at work. 

I feel like Doc caught wind of this and decided he'd show me today who the true OG ball mover is.

[Panjandrum]

Maybe it's been said in this thread, but I feel like Spradling is a lot like a young baseball player that starts out for the first couple months of his career in a hot streak hitting .300+, putting more balls over the wall than normal, and essentially exceeding any and all expectations right out of the gate.  You look at him, can't figure out how he's really doing it, but the numbers say he's better than he looks.  However, eventually, someone figures out that he can't hit a slider, and then everyone starts throwing sliders, and next thing you know, he's heading back down to AAA.

I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now, but I think last year may have been the fluke, and this year is more realistic.  It's not like he's just missing open shots.  He's not getting open.  He's having trouble defending slow guys.  He can't get to the line because he's incapable of putting the ball on the floor and getting past someone.

I just don't see him coming back from this.  Of course, I'm probably way off base, but I just have a feeling that he'll be seeing less and less time, or possibly leaving to go play at a smaller school. 

[wabash909]

I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now

I'm not sure he's that much better.

He just needs to be in a position to be a role player that comes in off the bench at the two and shoots threes.  He needs to be Conner Teahan.  And we need to stop pretending that he's going to be Kirk Heinrich.

[SwiftCat]

Way to stick with only white comparo's wabash! I'm glad you can follow the rules!

[wabash909]

Way to stick with only white comparo's wabash! I'm glad you can follow the rules!

I don't make the rules around here.  I just follow em.

[Panjandrum]

I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now

I'm not sure he's that much better.

He just needs to be in a position to be a role player that comes in off the bench at the two and shoots threes.  He needs to be Conner Teahan.  And we need to stop pretending that he's going to be Kirk Heinrich.

My pops said the same thing in a phone conversation tonight.  Except he also said that Teahan is probably the high side of what we should expect because Teahan is more athletic.

I didn't really argue.

[Dugout DickStone]

Maybe it's been said in this thread, but I feel like Spradling is a lot like a young baseball player that starts out for the first couple months of his career in a hot streak hitting .300+, putting more balls over the wall than normal, and essentially exceeding any and all expectations right out of the gate.  You look at him, can't figure out how he's really doing it, but the numbers say he's better than he looks.  However, eventually, someone figures out that he can't hit a slider, and then everyone starts throwing sliders, and next thing you know, he's heading back down to AAA.

I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now, but I think last year may have been the fluke, and this year is more realistic.  It's not like he's just missing open shots.  He's not getting open.  He's having trouble defending slow guys.  He can't get to the line because he's incapable of putting the ball on the floor and getting past someone.

I just don't see him coming back from this.  Of course, I'm probably way off base, but I just have a feeling that he'll be seeing less and less time, or possibly leaving to go play at a smaller school. 

Normally that guy wouldn't be batting 3rd coming down the stretch.  u digg?

[michigancat]

I think he needs to be Jacob Pullen and not Denis Clemente.

[michigancat]

I think he needs to be Jacob Pullen and not Denis Clemente.

Actually more Lace Dunn and less Tweety Carter. Changed my mind.